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down about 900 points this morning from one of the ceos of one of the nation's largest banks. about the likelihood of a recession. >> plus, rivers and danger rising severe storms leaving behind death and destruction, and the threat of yet more flooding. we've got the latest storm track. we're watching it all. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> and we begin this hour with breaking news. another another white knuckle day is already unfolding up on wall street right now. the dow is down about 900 points, a little bit more than 900 points. fear of a global recession that those fears are alarming. investors here in the united states and indeed around the world, even as president trump's advisers try to downplay the growing

concerns. cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yurkevich is at the new york stock exchange for us. we're watching all of this. >> recession. the. >> all right. vanessa yurkevich is in new york for us, vanessa. sorry. we wanted to hear that soundbite. we'll play it again in a moment, but go ahead and give our viewers an update on what's unfolding as we see it right now. >> yeah, we're watching the markets and it looks like not down quite as much as they were when they opened this morning. the dow down still about 2.5%. i'm looking over at the big board here. you have the s&p down over 2%. and the nasdaq is down just over 1.5%. but really investors this morning have been bracing for what is to come this week, which are those major reciprocal tariffs set to take effect on wednesday. they very much see this as a full steam ahead scenario. and they are pricing in the worst case scenario in markets. we had the s&p in bear market territory

joining the nasdaq there. and the dow is in correction territory. investors really think that we' also hearing from jamie dimon of jpmorgan who said this earlier about where we are right now with markets. he said the recent tariffs will likely increase inflation and are causing many to consider a greater probability of a recession. whether or not the menu of tariffs caused causes a recession remains in question. but it will. but it will slow down growth. now, jpmorgan last week revised their recession percentage from 40% to 60%. jerome powell, the chair of the fed, was also asked about a recession. he did not comment on that. but that is where investors have sort of forecast this may be heading. they are waiting to hear something concrete from the president. he just posted a short time ago that officials from japan were coming to the u.s. to try to negotiate on their tariff

situation. more of that news to come could be helpful for investors here. they've told me. but right now we're looking at markets down over 2.5%, almost across the board. guys. >> all right, vanessa yurkevich, stand by. we'll get back to you. pamela. >> yeah. i want to go over now to the white house and check in with reporter alayna treene. elena, what is the. administration saying? >> well, we have heard a tour, really, of different top economic advisers from the trump administration out on television this morning, all of them really trying to say, you know, don't panic. calm down. even the president himself posted something similar this morning. he said to americans, don't be weak. don't be stupid. don't be a panic, man. talking about a new party based on weak and stupid people, he said. but that's similar to what we heard, including from trade adviser peter navarro, who was on cnbc this morning, and he was saying, look, there are tax cuts potentially to come that should maybe ease concerns. listen to what he said. >> that fine truth was the fact that the biggest tax cut in

american history, the broadest based tax cut in american history, is coming within a matter of months. so any discussion of recession seems silly when you factor that in. >> so all of this really we are hearing from top white house and administration officials is a little bit defensive in nature, trying to tell americans, just be patient here. now i will say there's two different things happening behind the scenes. one, and we heard some of this mixed messaging over the weekend. one is that the president is still very much committed to these tariffs. and long term, i think that's the key thing here. yes, he is open to maybe having these conversations with different foreign leaders. he said he spoke with the japanese prime minister this morning to white house. officials, confirmed to me that he did. but also he still wants to break and reorder the global trading system. in order to do that. we're not going to see a lot of these major deals happening anytime soon. i believe pam. wolf. >> all right. alayna treene vanessa yurkevich, thank you so much, wolf.

>> let's bring in economics and public policy. professor justin wolfers. right now, he's from the university of michigan. he's joining us from ann arbor right now. justin, what's the significance of entering bear market territory? >> i think it's partly people are worried about their 401 s, and i've had all sorts of retirees reach out to me terrified about what all of this means. but i think more importantly, it's the market's judgment on the whole trump tariff agenda. according to trump's theory of the case, what he's trying to do is make american business. outperform, that putting tariffs on will help american business, and then there'll be flow on effects from there. but what you see here is the market saying no, we think that the value of american businesses is falling and fallen quite dramatically as a result of these tariffs. this is the tariffs. this is the this is wall street screaming at the white house. if this is help we don't want your help. please

stop. now. >> well we just heard from alayna treene at the white house talking about how the white house is defending this. here's the president's advisers downplaying the growing concerns here of a recession. >> the market will find a bottom. it will be soon. and from there, we're going to have a bullish boom. >> there doesn't have to be a recession. the who knows how the market is going to react in a day and a week. >> you need to reset the power of the united states of america and reset it against all our allies and our enemies alike. >> it's a strategy to create a golden age in america for the american worker. that's his strategy. >> so, justin, what is your take on their arguments? >> look, i think this let me explain why it is. i think markets hate this so much. essentially, trump grew up in an era where there was quite substantial tariffs on american businesses. and so some of his complaints would have been totally reasonable. in 1960. it

turns out today that very few countries or a week ago, i should say, actually have substantial tariffs on the united states at all. so what we have is, if we win this trade war we might be able to get, say, vietnam to eliminate all of its tariffs. right now, vietnam actually charges, on average only a 1.1% tariff rate. and so if we win, we get a tiny reduction in tariffs. now, in the meantime, what's happening is china has put a 34% tariff rate on the united states. so it's incredibly asymmetric. the stakes if we win, are very small. the stakes that we're putting online that we stand to lose are very large. >> what will it take, justin, for all of this? and it's pretty serious right now. very depressing as we all know. what will it take for this to turn around? >> i think it's going to take congress the constitution gives the power over tariffs, not to the president, but to congress. previous congresses gave certain

limited powers to the president. it's also possible the courts are going to stop this, because it's quite plausible that the president has overstepped his authorities here. you know, wolf, this is the largest tax increase in a generation. and it's being and it's occurring at the stroke of a pen of a man in the white house not going through congress at all. so congress has the power to stop this. and i think they're seeing right now, there's a whole lot of them who are not going to get reelected in two years time, and they're not getting reelected around an issue that the republican party has traditionally hated, which is tariffs. >> and taxes, too. >> yeah, exactly. professor justin wolfers, thank you so much, wolf. >> trade is also on the table when president trump meets with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, later today over at the white house, the two were already expected to talk about the war in gaza. the remaining hostages and iran and other issues. but trade certainly has become a significant item on their agenda

as well. after president trump slapped israel with a 17% tariff. joining us now here in the situation room, cnn's chief national security correspondent, alex marquardt alex netanyahu, was just here a few weeks ago. right. and now he's back. give us a sense of what's going on. >> netanyahu was the first foreign leader to visit trump when he went back into the white house. and now he is the first foreign leader to visit trump following this tariffs. news. in an effort and international effort to renegotiate trade deals between the u.s. and their respective countries. so, of course, the major agenda items that are that are classic for these two leaders, whether it's gaza, iran, syria will very much be on the table. but the tariffs news is at a very much adding a new dimension to this. the israelis had tried to prevent being slapped with new tariffs by doing away with all duties on u.s. products. just a couple of days before this announcement. it did not work, as you noted, 17% now being put on on israeli products there. the manufacturers association of israel says that anywhere

between 18 to 26,000 israeli jobs could be lost as a result. so that is going to be a major item that the two leaders are going to talk about. of course, the ongoing war in gaza, where israel is expanding its operations, taking more territory, occupying more territory in the gaza strip. there are questions about whether a cease fire can be resurrected. of course, that was a big success early on in the trump administration, hamas had rejected an american proposal for what they called for an extension to that cease fire. now they're saying they're willing to go along with it. the israelis are demanding more hostages be released. and so steve witkoff the president's envoy, who's going to be in that meeting as well, is still trying to get that cease fire back up and running. the the main sticking point is hamas is trying to end this war, and they're willing to give up all the remaining hostages. israel wants those hostages, of course, but is not willing to end that war right now. one other thing to note, wolf. three american teenagers, palestinian american teenagers were shot in the west bank last night. one of them was

killed. the idf called them terrorists who hurled rocks towards the highway. so that could be another thing that is discussed today. certainly those leaders will be asked about it. there all kinds of things to talk about today. tariffs. it appears near the near the top if not at the top of that list. >> so they're going to hold a joint meeting at bilateral meeting at the white house and then have a joint news conference. is that right? >> this is the formula that we've seen with numerous other foreign leaders, where the two get together in the oval office. they take questions from the press. we saw that with president zelenskyy. of course, that one ended terribly. then they go into a meeting and that is then followed by a press conference with the two leaders. >> we'll have coverage of all of that, to be sure. alex, thank you very much, pamela. >> a very busy, newsy monday. happening now. also, the measles outbreak in texas is growing and a second unvaccinated child has died of the virus. 481 cases have been reported in the state so far. nearly all of them were unvaccinated. health and human services secretary rfk jr.. was at the child's funeral yesterday and publicly backed the mmr vaccine as the most effective

way to prevent the spread of the disease. of course, that is raising the question, though. why did he wait until now to do that? so let's bring in cnn medical correspondent meg tirrell. what is the latest, meg, on this outbreak? >> well, even though we are getting that endorsement from robert f kennedy jr., which is farther than he's gone before in terms of promoting the mmr vaccine, public health experts are telling us he is still not going far enough. he needs to emphasize not just the efficacy of the vaccine, but also its safety and the fact that people should get the vaccine in order to prevent the spread of measles. right now, this is not just in texas. this outbreak has been linked with possibly three other states, new mexico, where there's another death under investigation. of course, there's the two in texas, as well as oklahoma and kansas. and if you guys look at the trajectory of the cases that we are seeing in this outbreak, particularly in texas, they are still growing really fast. and the fact that we now have possibly three deaths in this outbreak suggests to epidemiologists we are not seeing nearly as many cases as

are actually out there. they say they could be as high as 3000 guys. so this death that we learned about over the weekend was in another school aged child who was previously healthy. no reported previous underlying conditions, and she was unvaccinated. they say the cause of death was measles, pulmonary failure. and we know measles can cause things like pneumonia. and of the cases that we know about in texas, of 481. 98% of those cases were either unvaccinated or had unknown vaccine status. and so that's why there's this push for more messaging from robert f. kennedy jr., from the cdc, from anyone at the highest levels of public health in the united states to say vaccination is safe and should be the way to stop this outbreak, guys. >> all right, mike, thank you, wolf. >> very disturbing indeed. very worried about those folks. happening now. evacuation orders and water rescues are underway in kentucky after days of rain and violent storms pummeled parts of the central and southern united states. at least 19 people across seven states

are confirmed dead. sheriff john ward of hardin county in kentucky, tells cnn that the rising waters caught people by surprise. >> surprise, the water came so fast and didn't think it would get to them because it you know, i seen homes underwater that, have never had water. and it i don't think people were ready. people didn't expect just because it's never happened before. >> cnn's derek van dam is tracking all of this for us. derek, just how bad is the flooding after these storms and what's going on? what's next? >> yeah, i listen to that same interview from the sheriff, wolf, and he also mentioned that they ran out of barriers to close the roads in hardin county, kentucky, and they had to ship them in from chicago. that just shows you the level of flooding that is ongoing across some of these hardest hit areas in kentucky. here's some visual examples for you. check out

these homes, these communities, these neighborhoods changed in an instant. frankfort and monterey, kentucky. some of these homes isolated from their areas. here's an example of that. that road you have no way in, no way out. that is going to be a very difficult scenario going forward. i want to show you just how much rain has fallen. we're talking about over 800 miles, where significant precipitation fell from the sky over the past week from arklatex to the ohio river valley. and right now there are 18 river gauges, all shaded in purple here that are registering major flooding. in fact, here's an example. the frankfort lock on the kentucky river. it's currently just over 48ft. that is just shy of their record level. that is because over a foot of rain has fallen from the sky since last week, midweek. so the system responsible moving eastward, it continues to edge closer to the east coast. and then we'll say goodbye to that system. but there are still millions of americans impacted

by this slow moving disaster. keep in mind, wolf, this will take several days for these rivers to crest with this amount of water. >> yeah, bad situation indeed. derek van dam, thank you very much, pamela. kentucky, your home state. >> my heart goes out to my fellow kentuckians dealing with this historic flooding. they've already been through so much with severe weather and now this. we're also going to be checking in with the kentucky governor, andy beshear, later in the show. still ahead for you escalating trade war. we're going to speak to republican congressman ryan zinke on how the tariffs are affecting america's global trade partners. you're in the situation room. >> feeling anxious. >> i don't know what's going on. don't worry. put your feet up. don't panic. >> we can help you cope. >> it's called. disassociation. hey, it's all on fire. did you not find that comforting? >> have i got news for you? saturday at 9:00 on cnn. >> did you take your vitamin today? >> that's my job.

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our top story. there's whiplash right now up on wall street right now. u.s. stocks are up. yes, up. after opening the day less than an hour ago in bear market territory as president trump's tariffs roil the global economy. let's get reaction right now from republican congressman ryan zinke of montana. he sits on both the foreign affairs and appropriations committees. when you were here with us in the situation room last week, congressman, you said you hoped the tariffs would be short term. what's your hope now? >> short term and focused. and what we see is netanyahu coming to d.c. and i think this is the first series of the negotiation. and i do think there will be a deal cut. >> between the u.s. and israel. >> absolutely. because i think it should be cut. you look at the tariffs themselves, and there were broad, but you would see that that netanyahu is coming. japan is sending their best negotiators forward again. if it results in america being in a better position, where

manufacturing comes, comes shore, where we're not vulnerable to our adversaries or fickle allies. for the key components that run this economy, i think, is a good thing. but long term, again, shotgun has consequences, higher prices. and montana, you know, we get affected a lot because our number one trading partner is canada. so as long as again they're short term and purposeful i think they'll be successful. >> so you think president trump is actually open to negotiations on the issue of tariffs with these other countries? because we had heard very conflicting statements from some of his cabinet members and senior administration officials about negotiations to reduce the tariffs. >> i think at the end of the day, president trump is a negotiator. he loves the deal. i think what we're going to find my my guess is that the first negotiated deal will be israel. and there should be negotiated deal. >> do you think that will set an example for other countries to come to the united states and negotiate a deal? >> i do, and that's an

important make the first deal and we'll see again, country to country, making the deals. and i think that's important. again, if tariffs result in a better position for the u.s. and our trading partners, we're not vulnerable to fickle allies or adversaries for key components that lead this economy. critical minerals, manufacturing chips, those type of things. if it results in a better position than the u.s., i think it's good. >> because one of the things some of these other countries, especially in europe, do, they may not necessarily have huge tariffs, but they have other ways of raising money on the basis of what the u.s. experts like a so-called value added tax. they put taxes on u.s. imports to reduce the opportunity for the united states to sell its products in various european countries. they got to deal with that, too. i assume. >> they do. and i think the european union as a whole. i think we can make a deal and. and target, you know, british, for instance, for a long time, our great friend and trading partners. i think we can make deals. and again, this

president, he's the dealmaker. and oftentimes he throws a lot out. but as long as they begin to focus and we begin to make deals again, i think the first deal is going to be israel. >> well, i'm going to get to that in a moment. but would you support a bill reasserting at least some significant congressional authority over imposing tariffs? >> well, as long as they're successful and again, again, it results in the u.s. being in a better position, i think is fine. but if it continues where it drags on the economy, where congress should get involved with it, then at that point we're not there yet. but i think it's worth watching. >> what else do you expect will emerge from these talks later today between president trump and prime minister netanyahu? you're on the foreign affairs committee. >> i would imagine one of the top is is going to be iran. iran's continuing support of hamas, continuing support of the houthis, continuing support of hezbollah is an issue. and we see israel looking at gaza. do

they occupy it? very expensive proposition. you see southern lebanon, as you know, beginning to have control of it. but at the end of the day, it's about the head of the snake. what do we do with about iran? certainly the u.s. has the capability to do great harm to iran. we can wipe out their navy. we can wipe out their capability to to produce 1.5 million barrels of oil a day. we can do a lot. >> should the u.s. do that? >> if iran doesn't change their behavior, something has to change their behavior and we can put more economic constraints on it. we can make sure they can't produce the oil. we can do those things. we can do joint operations with israel. there's a lot that we can do. i think iran should realize when when president trump says, stop it, they should take that into consideration because there will be a consequence. >> because iran still has a lot of military capability as well, together with its own surrogates. as you point out in the region, if the u.s. were to launch, let's say, together with israel, some sort of strike

against various iranian targets that could explode in the region, there could be a huge, huge war. >> you're actually right. there are consequences. but at the same time, we could eliminate their capability to produce 1.5 million barrels of oil. we can eliminate their navy. the u.s. and iran does not is not in a great position. they don't have a lot of air defenses. so us can and i'm hoping that that everyone takes a deep breath and understands what's on the table. and iran stops funding terrorism. you know, it was a former seal. i can tell you there's a lot of my teammates that aren't here with us today because of iran's direct action in iraq. and i think that also should be in consideration. >> congressman ryan zinke of montana, a great state. thanks very much for joining us. >> always a pleasure. >> we'll continue these conversations, to be sure, and we'll be right back. >> eva longoria searching for spain premieres april 27th on cnn.

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cross into the green and then the nasdaq as well. and cheers again on the floor here. but we are back down. we are back down again across all three indices. you can just see how investors are desperate for some good news about this trade war. any inclination that maybe major trading partners, which include the european union, are willing to negotiate is a good sign. as you recall, president trump lobbed a 20% tariff on the european union. now they are coming to the table saying they're ready to negotiate. but investors looking for more encouraging news like that throughout the day. and we could continue to see these small rallies throughout the day as we continue to hear news. but as you can see right there, the dow back down about 500 points, guys. >> yeah, we're watching it closely together with you. vanessa yurkevich at the stock exchange. thanks very, very much pamela. >> very volatile there. all right. so let's turn over to israel. now that's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is back in washington, and he's getting ready to meet with

president trump. netanyahu is the first world leader to meet with trump in person since last week's tariff blitz. israel got slapped with a new 17% tariff even after it dropped tariffs on u.s. goods the day before. >> with us here in the situation room, cnn global affairs analyst kim dozier. kim, thanks very much for joining us. president trump, as you know, is looking to negotiate some sort of trade deal with israel right now. does he want to make that a potential model or blueprint for some of these other allies and countries in the middle east to deal with this very sensitive and explosive issue? >> well, look, you've got two leaders who need a win. netanyahu is facing a lot of unrest and political turmoil at home, and he flies straight back from these meetings to appear in his ongoing corruption trial. the hearing actually had to get delayed because of this emergency meeting to dc. if he can go back to israel with the win of getting the 17% tariffs lifted before they even get

imposed on wednesday, then that is wind at his back. for trump also, he could be sending a signal that if you do, if you drop all your tariffs against israel, against the u.s., this is, as you say, the kind of model that you could get in exchange that would reassure the markets. and it would also. show that would be trump showing the world that here's how he's going to employ his political power. >> but it's interesting, though, because israel did drop its tariffs the day before the announcement. right. and yet the u.s. still slapped these tariffs on israel. so you have the tariff situation. iran. of course, we were just talking about that with congressman zinke. and there's also the shooting of the palestinian american teens in the west bank, with one dying as a result and the killing of more than a dozen palestinian emergency medics in gaza by the israelis. how much do you think that will cast a shadow over this meeting today?

>> i just don't think it will come up that much. perhaps the palestinian american issue will come up. and i think the israeli leader will have his defense lined up, that they were engaging in some sort of activity, throwing stones. and you're not going to see the kind of dressing down behind closed doors, at least, that you would have seen in the biden administration. the signal has been all along taking the idf side, believing the idf version of events and the idf has come out with the version of events over the weekend that some of those medics, that half of them, when their names were run against intelligence lists, were allegedly members of hamas. so i expect that the white house will take those claims at face value and move on, because at this point they are supporting netanyahu in increasing the military pressure on hamas by

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kentucky. congressman, thank you so much for coming on. i mean, first question is the obvious question, right? what impacts are these tariffs already having in your district, or just the fear of what might happen? >> yeah. >> i think the impacts are massive. you know, if you live in kentucky, live in louisville, kentucky, where i live, you know, somebody who works in the bourbon industry, these aren't far off economic terms like tariff and retaliation and markets going up and down. this is somebody wondering down the street if they're going to have their job next week. and so we're seeing that already. but we don't have to guess what's going to happen. we've seen what happened when trump was president the first time he did the same thing. he had massive tax cuts. he put tariffs in place. and the bourbon industry was devastated, cut our exports in half. with trump's previous tariffs and those tariffs weren't as big as the tariffs he's proposing now. so i think it's going to be absolutely devastating for the industry. >> yeah. the bourbon industry is just such a big industry in kentucky. and you have to wonder about the ripple effect, right. if they're impacted and the jobs and what's going to happen in my beloved home state right

there. you know, the president, he is sort of saying, look, everyone, there's going to be some short term pain because this is going to lead to a manufacturing renaissance here in the u.s. and really incentivize people to buy american. are you seeing any evidence that that could happen? i mean, do you know, do you can you see the good in that? >> look, i want manufacturing jobs in the united states. i want more manufacturing jobs in the united states. but again, look at what happened when trump did this the first time. manufacturing actually declined. then under the biden administration, it picked up again because, you know, tariffs when we talk about tariffs. tariffs are neither good nor bad. tariffs are a tool. a hammer is neither good nor bad. it's good for putting a nail in the wall. it's not so good for fixing your ipad. how you use these tariffs matters. and so if you're using tariffs in a targeted way with policies like saying, hey, we want more semiconductor chips built here in the united states for manufacturing purposes, for national security purposes. so we're going to put policies in place that incentivize it. and we're going to put a tariff on this industry to further encourage to buy these chips in

america. that's the kind of thing that works. it leads to more jobs. it leads to better production here at home. but when you just throw these tariffs across the board and on our allies. right. i understand why we're putting tariffs on china. they're competing unfairly. they're adversaries of ours. but these across the board tariffs on our allies where we are doing good trade. this did not work when trump was president. the first time. the markets are saying it' a the tr has argued, well, look, when we did this the first time that, you know, inflation didn't really go up, it held steady. but this clearly is different. this is much more aggressive. and i think you're seeing it in the markets right now. the volatility and the uncertainty kind of fueling that of what this means. and you have lawmakers also pushing to reclaim congressional authority over tariffs. do you think there's enough bipartisan support for something like that to pass with a veto proof majority. >> i would certainly hope so. you saw it pass on a bipartisan basis in the senate. i don't think mike johnson is going to bring it up for a vote in the house. and maybe because there

is a fear it would pass. i mean, look, you know, the trump administration is out there defending these policies. i guess they have to do right now, but they cannot defend what happened the first time. again, manufacturing went down, the trade deficit increased, and the national debt increased with their their policies. under the last time they tried this, there's no reason to think it's going to be different this time. >> and there was a manufacturing a mild recession. you're right. and i believe in the fall of 2019, when trump was in office the first time, when it came to the manufacturing industry. so i want to also ask you about something else that's going on in kentucky, and that's these devastating storms there. we're seeing the images of all the flooding. give us an update on the ground. is kentucky getting the help that it needs? >> yeah. i mean, we've been battered and not just the storms this last week. there were storms in parts of the state a couple of weeks ago with really bad flooding. these are awful. i'm a lifelong kentuckian, lifelong louisvillian. i don't think i've ever seen it this bad. we've already lost two kentuckians to this. we know that the ohio river is not expected to crest until probably

wednesday, maybe thursday of this week. you're looking at the 97 flood levels and some parts of the state. they're comparing it to the flood of 37, which if you're a kentucky kid, you've always heard people talk about the flood of 37. it's really devastating. it's damaging. and no, i mean, this is where, you know, policy sometimes has to meet the people. and so when you're talking about making cuts to the national weather service, we don't have people on the ground in louisville that were able to confirm the tornadoes that touched down in louisville last week. we're not getting what we need. i think necessarily from those services. but the president did work with our governor, andy beshear to make sure that there is a federal declaration declared. we can start opening up those funds. and i know the kentucky delegation will be united on trying to get kentucky the help it needs. >> just to follow up on that, the national weather service did say that it wouldn't be able to survey the damage and confirm that suspected tornadoes for several days due to the staffing issues. do you know, though, if it's because of the cuts the trump administration made, or they said in a statement that a

lot of people were on spring break and off right now, and that is why. but we're trying to get a better sense. >> well, in kentucky, they've had a 35% reduction in staff because of these budget cuts. and so yes, it was spring break in a lot of parts of kentucky last week, spring break in parts of kentucky this week. but there's been a 35% cut there. and i talked to officials in louisville who directly blame this on some of the staffing cuts. >> and what are the what are the consequences of that? help us better understand. >> i mean, we need to have people out there to confirm what's happening, to know what's happened, to warn in advance of what's happening. and so what ended up happening in louisville, because we didn't have the national weather service, we had to send county emergency people out there who work, work from jefferson county to say whether there were tornadoes. by doing that, they weren't doing the other jobs that they could do to give people the help they need in this type of disaster. >> and when the river crests, what are you expecting? >> yeah. i mean, when the ohio river crests, you know, and so many of our population centers in kentucky are still along the ohio river, just based on on how

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how are everyone feeling? >> it's great. the hair on my head is standing up. if this final four was any indication of what we're in for tonight, buckle up. coach kelvin sampson's houston cougars just pulled off one of the greatest final four comebacks we've ever seen, upsetting duke. they are tough. they are gritty. the nation's best defense. they're facing todd golden's florida gators who bring the juice. they're always dancing having fun. and so are their fans including superfan our very own gator alum sara sidner here with her team, watching them punch their ticket to the title game, she said she couldn't walk away because she didn't want to jinx anything wolf. so that's got us to wondering if either of these coaches are superstitious. listen to this. >> i would say a little stitious a little stitious. >> is there anything quirky unique that you do not? >> not really, to be honest. i like drinking a soda pop right before the game to make sure i'm getting a little energy, a little caffeine. so i'm wearing. >> this. >> gray polo. >> and that outfit were 31 and

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