360.com. that does it for 360. thanks for watching. larry king starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, michael jackson's memorial service. will it be the largest event of its kind ever? los angeles is bracing for massive crowds. message for those without tickets. stay home. a powerful anesthetic is found inside jackson's house. what was diprivan, a drug used in hospital operating rooms, doing there? then the people performing side by side with michael are here. was michael up to a grueling tour? was he trying to get out of it? we'll go back to neverland with jermaine jackson.

>> michael, why did you go? why did you leave? >> and show you never-before-seen footage until now. next on "larry king live." good evening, i'm anderson cooper sitting in for larry continue. we begin with details of jackson's public memorial. the special website registering people for the service logged half a billion hits today, maybe even more than that. at this point, here's cnn's susan roesgen in downtown los angeles at the staples center right now with the latest. susan, what are the details of this event on tuesday as we know? >> reporter: we know that very few people will get in. that had that half a billion hits and it actually shut down the server, the computer website shut it down for a while today. if people want to go to this memorial service, they have to get online, register. the tickets are free and at 6:00 tomorrow night, there's going to be a kpuzerized random drawing

of everybody who registered. a lucky 17,500 wilg be the only ones to get tickets. everybody else, the lapd, city officials and the people running the staples center say please, please, please don't even come down here. cops are going to cordon off this area, anderson. they don't want anybody to come down because basely they don't know if they can handle the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of fans and media that are going to be there. >> so 17,000 tickets available. others are going to have to watch it at home. do we know what the event is? are there celebrities there? will michael jackson's body actually be there? do we know the details? >> reporter: the only thing we know, anderson, michael jackson's body won't be here. that's the only small detail the promotors would say today. they said they're still working out the details. we don't know the diana ross will be here or if the brothers will do a number or something. they won't say anything about it. so as you mentioned, a half a

billion people, or at least a half a billion hits have been logged of people who want to come to this unknown memorial. >> is there word of a private memorial service for the jackson family and any word on the burial? >> reporter: there is going to be a private memorial before this public memorial. the family has not said where the private memorial will be. even more interesting, anderson, no one has said where or when michael jackson will actually be buried. maybe it is a private service on tuesday, that's when the actual funeral will be, but the family isn't saying. all we know is there's going to be this big public memorial at 10:00 a.m. on local time here on tuesday. >> susan at the staples center. more big news today came regarding the diprivan found in jackson's home. it is a powerful anesthetic used in operating rooms. what it may or may not have to do with jackson's dhet. what do we know? >> that's the big question. we are still nowhere near knowing what caused this death, en with the news of this. the news is that police found

diprivan inside his home. what's missing is to what levels, was it in his body. also, the delivery. you have to have it intravenously. no one said anything about we found an i.v. bag. >> the very fact it's in his house is highly unusual. you talk to any doctors and they say this shouldn't be in somebody's home. >> it is so unusual. we've been reporting all week, it's found in icu units, it's found in clinics where you have a doctor that's going to basically put you under. the only abuse of this drug that we found is among anz these yolgss, themselves. >> have we heard from the attorney for dr. conrad murray? >> we kid. >> what did they say? >> they will not respond to any more rumors. they consider this a rumor. they consider this any unnamed sources as this was, a rumor. >> they did respond about sources to demerol and oxycontin. . >> after the weekend they had a three-hour interview with the los angeles police department. out of that, they had an

agreement with the los angeles police, that they would be able to say my doctor, dr. conrad murray did not prescribe oxycontin in michael jackson. >> because dr. chopra said that a couple of years ago, michael jackson had asked him for demerol and oxycontin. >> that's absolutely right. so do we read into it that he's not denying the fact that there was diprivan being used? is he sticking to the original statement? >> the fact that diprivan was found, two recent developments. one, the nurse came forward and said three months ago jackson begged her for this very substance and also that dr. son jay gupta has found an anz these yolgs on tour with jackson in the mid-'90s on the history tour, '96 or '97 if i'm not mistaken, according to sources sanjay had, actually administered to him some sort of i.v. drugses to help him sleep.

>> absolutely right. neil ratner. what he confirmed to sanjay, michael did have a sleep disorder and i was treating him for that. the nurse, though, cherilyn lee, the nurse practitioner, said michael jackson asked for this by name. she described michael jackson describing what it felt like to have this drug and it's exactly the feeling that answer these yolgss tell us it feels like. a drip in the arm and i immediately go out. it was that kind of pleasure or comatose state he was seeking from that nurse. it sounds like michael jackson knew about this drug and knew what it did from experience. >> it's a drug, its i.v. has to be administered by a doctor and has to be monitored while the patient is under it because it can have lethal side effects, of course. as soon as it stops the patient comes out of it.

>> that's absolutely right. and michael jackson, on the night he died, invited the doctor over. when he was discussing his sleep disorders with cherilyn lee, he had her come over and watch him sleep. >> in the immediate hours after jackson's death, brian objectionman was on cnn, jackson family spokesman at that time, i'm not sure if he still is, i haven't heard his name in quite a while. they seem to have other spokesmen. that the family has for months been trying to intervene and help out michael jackson in regarding prescription drugs, that the people around him were enabling him and what happened to michael jackson makes the anna nicole smith look small potatoes. not exactly his words, but he did reference anna nicole smith. is he still talking? is he still is family spokesman? do we know? >> brian oxman was the family spokesman a couple of years ago. he had a falling out during the

trial, when messer row kicked him off the case. i don't know how close he as been to some of the jackson family members. it doesn't appear he's a family spokesman at this time or in the recent past. what he is describing is what other friends of michael jackson have told me, that michael jackson had a drug problem, that that drug problem was facilitated by these enablers around him who could not say no to michael jackson. >> drew griffin, appreciate your reporting. we're going to neverland next. hear what michael's broth, r jermaine had to say. we've made a great product even better. now every drop of shell gasolines... contain a nitrogen-enriched cleaning system... that seeks and destroys engine gunk... left by lower-quality gasoline. it protects engines from performance-robbing gunk. try new nitrogen-enriched shell gasolines.

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larry king spoke to jermaine jackson at the neverland ranch about michael's life and death. jermaine was visibly moved when he saw for the first time tape of his brother performing just before michael died. watch. >> larry: we want you to look at this tape of your late brother and his last rehearsal 48 hours before he died. watch. ♪ >> will go down in history as the greatest demonstration --

>> larry: how does that make you feel? >> wow, he looks great. strong, very, very strong. >> larry: you saw reports of him looking bad. doesn't look bad to me. >> he looks incredible. he was really putting it on them. very strong. >> larry: so how does it hit you now, jermaine? >> it hits me very, very deep. very deep in shock. very hurting and paining. the world is paining. my family's paining because he's gone too soon. too soon. >> larry: how did you find out your brother died? >> i was on the other side of town in azusa and i got a call from you guys on my wife's phone. >> larry: cnn? >> yes. they said did you know that your brother was rushed to the hospital? i said what? i called my mother immediately and i got her on the phone and she said she was on her way.

so a little time went by and i spoke to janet and i spoke to a few of the siblings then about 45 minutes later, then i call my mother back and i hear the sound in her voice that's saying he's dead. and just a feeling of emptiness came before my body because to hear my mother say her child is dead and my brother's dead is -- i never, ever thought that i would ever hear this from her lips. >> larry: did you go right over to the hospital? >> immediately, larry. i had to go a different route. once i got closer to where he was, i could see the helicopters in the sky and that really brought just a chill over my whole body. once i entered into ucla i went straight for my mother to see how she was. she was sitting there. i guess she was there but she wasn't there. i consoled her and hugged her and i went to see my baby,

michael. i went to look for him. and i -- >> larry: where did you see him? >> i saw him laying in the room and he was lifeless, breathless. and he just -- as if he was a shell and he was just there. >> larry: what do you do at a moment like that? do you say something? what do you do? >> i said, michael, why did you go? why did you leave? why did you leave me? i -- what was going through my mind, larry, i wished it was me there instead of him. >> larry: really? >> yes. because i love michael so much. it's a different love. all my family, siblings, the world loves him. but i just felt a special connection with him because just going back both the memories of how my father used to keep us in the same rooms because we were on tours so we were the lead singers and just memories all came back to me. everything.

>> jermaine talking about his brother. michael's three kids are being cared for by their grandmother, his mother, katherine. larry asked him about how the kids are doing. listen. >> larry: how are his kids? >> his kids are strong. they have a lot of love and care and they're playing with my kids and they're just being strong, but they're -- they're -- it's what it is. >> larry: one thing about katherine, your mother, do you think it's proper that she be responsible for the kids? >> yes, i think it's very proper because the way my mother raised us, the way -- we know how she's very just -- the love, the joy, and making sure they'll be okay. i thought it was the right choice. >> larry: age any hin drans? her age? >> no, because she has a staff. she's always with all of our kids.

there's 23 grandchildren. >> larry: what do you make of the ex-wife possibly seeking custody? >> we'll see. larry, the will is what it is and the will was really written well and it was executed by the executors. it's what it is. >> larry: so you don't think she has a shot? >> well, no, no, because this is what michael wanted. we're looking at michael. it's all about michael. this is what he wanted. >> neverland was more than michael jackson's home. for miko brando it was the sigh of his wedding. has gingko for memory and concentration... plus support for bone and breast health. just what i need. one a day women's.

welcome back to "larry king live." michael jackson loved having people to his home in neverland and people who were there says he was a gracious host. one of them is miko brando, mar, marlon brando's son. miko and his wife were married at neverland ranch. watch. >> outside neverland ranch with miko and karen brando. you guys got married here. you made this walk some 15 years

ago. this is the aisle, i guess. >> yes, this is where we walked. we walked out of that door back there and walked to the gazebo. >> how do you feel coming back here without everything that was here and without michael jackson? >> coming back today, it's different. it's hard knowing that he's no longer here. because we've had several events here since our wedding. our wedding was the first event here. we've had several. and also, we've felt his presence. even though he's here in spirit, it's difficult. >> first time you talked to michael jackson, tell that story. >> well, miko and michael called me at work. miko said, karen, i have someone on the phone who wants to talk to you. he said, hi, karen. i said, hi. he said, it's michael. and he asked me if i wanted to get married here. i didn't say anything. i was shocked. i was, wow, you know, just thinking, wow, you know, where

elizabeth taylor got married. he noticed i wasn't talking. he said come up this weekend and see if you like it and if you like it, you can get married here. >> he thinks you were thinking about it. >> that's how sweet he is. >> give us a sense of how beautiful, for people, it's hard to translate on television, but boy, it doesn't get much more beautiful than this. >> it was very beautiful. it's a very beautiful place. it's a very peaceful place. it's a healing place. no one cannot come up here and not be happy and not heal their heart no matter what they've gone through. >> sad? >> very sad to say, yes. >> because he's gone? >> uh-huh. i try to think that he's still here, he's still with us, but then when we talk about this and because he is gone and we talk about the wedding and all of the events we've had here, it makes me -- it makes me realize that he's gone. you know? and it's hard. it's just really hard because he was such a good person.

>> really hard for all those who knew and loved him. there's so much speculation about what kind of shape michael jarks jarks was in when he died. people who might know the dancers are here, the co-creator of the show is here as well. see what they have to say, next.

♪ they don't really care about us ♪ ♪ joining us now, the people going on tour with michael jackson. the performers who were seen in the now-famous video right next

to him. kenny ortega, co-director of michael jackson's tour. michael's partner for 28 years. misha was to be on the tour. orianthe, the lead guitarist. for the tour. i know it's been a very difficult couple of days for you all. we've seen the video and as we look at the video, 48 hours before he died on tuesday night before the dress rehearsal, how was michael? >> he was up, happy, really invested in the night. he was wearing costumes and every once in a while would step off the stage and stand with me because we were co-directing the entire show. and look up at travis, actually, standing in for him and just smiling away because we had come so far and so close to arriving at our dream. >> travis, you've been working with him for decades now. a 50-year-old dancer is not as in good shape as a 25-year-old dancer.

what kind of shape was he in? >> in michael jackson's case, he was better. he's a very, very smart performer and all of our hero. it was wonderful to see him transition, to see him, you know, grow and to see him adjust. for what was necessary. >> have you worked with him before? >> no, i haven't. >> so in the video we see you right there playing guitar right next to him. what's it like? you've watched this guy your entire life probably, to find yourself on the stage next to michael jackson? >> very surreal. i didn't think it was real to go there. >> what was he like compared to what you thought he would be like? >> he was like i thought he would be like. he was amazing. he had this wonderful aura about him and just a beautiful spirit. it's been just a really surreal time working with him and amazing and devastating at the same time. >> misha, for you, as a dancer,

must be a dream come true to be on the same stage dancing with michael jackson. >> dancing with your idol, yet alone the king of pop, the king of dance. >> what was the show like? >> i'd like to say that seeing kenny and travis amichael create the show, they were pushing the limits of rock 'n' roll and pushing the limits of dance. michael, himself, for any dance fans that know michael's movement, he had a completely new arsenal of movement that they'd never seen before. >> you guys were working on new moves? >> michael was a greatest improvisational dancer you've ever seen in your life. sometimes it was like going into a trance. he would just -- he was just like, you know, he didn't think. he just did. and there were times when he was in rehearsal that were really, we were awe struck. i mean, it was so powerful. >> travis, how would he come up with ideas for a move or how did that work? >> i mean, i got to start dancing with him in 1992 and

became a choreographer and then got to join kenny and michael with the creation of the show. you know, it was very organic to him. he just would always say listen to the music. that's where we would always begin. i, too, was flabbergasted of some of the things that were coming out of him recently. you think you know everything or at least how it feels then he'll hit you in the face with something new and you're like, wow. >> there have been a lot of reports that he didn't want to do these shows or do 50 shows. initially only ten shows were announced. do you believe he was fully committed to doing all 50 shows? >> i think he wanted to do them and more. i think he wanted to do many, many, many, many more. he was really looking forward to sharing this with his fans all over the world. he faulked about india with the biggest grin on his face. it was like a kid in a candy store, getting ready to get back out in the world and be back on that stage, back in the light. i think it was really more of a question of, you know, it took a lot out of michael to do one performance. i mean, he invested his whole

self. it was like the recovery time. he just wanted to make sure he would have a day in between or two days in between so we were trying to make sure the tour was structured so michael wouldn't do more than two to three concerts a week. i think he was feeling good that that was something he could -- >> were you nervous, being on stage with him? >> yeah, because we practiced so much. we knew the songs so well. so when he called me out, it was very easy to get. to play the parts since we rehearsed so much. we knew the parts like the back of our hands. you know, just being in his presence. i'm so grateful to have that time. >> misha, for you, this was a sad thing for everybody. for you, this was a huge opportunity. it's got to be just stunning and surreal to suddenly realize -- you have the high of getting in the show and then have this happen. >> it's been devastating. i'm trying to remember and realize the time i had with him

and realize it's such a great opportunity rather than looking at the down of losing such an amazing person. trying to remember everything he did give me. sharing the stage with him. he gave any dancer that got on stage with him, travis tried to explain to us before we met him, when he gets on same, he just channels something in you. >> so he brings something out in you? >> absolutely. his energy on stage, especially the last week of his life was unbelievable. the guy was on fire. my friends were asking, how is he, how is he? i don't have the words to explain. michael jackson, he's unreal. >> we're going to have more with the group, more with kenny and the crew right after this break. we'll be right back.

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we're back with co-creator and co-director, kenny ortega, the performers who worked with michael and toured with michael before his tour. the memorial service on tuesday. you're now going to be involved in it. what are the details that you can talk about? >> there was a lot of hearsay this morning right up until the announcement.

then i was called and asked if i would like to direct the program which, of course, i'm honored and privileged to be associated with the family and this final -- >> you're going to meet with them tonight to find out more details? >> i don't know who i'm going to meet with but i am going to be with aeg and other folks. we are going to be guided by the family. this is all about the family and their comfort. >> would you all like to perform at the memorial if you could? >> absolutely. >> more than anything. >> more than anything. the last minutes, what was the last thing you said to michael jackson? >> very last thing i said to michael jackson, i said -- i said -- he asked me if i was happy. >> this is wednesday night around 12:30 a.m.? >> we always got together at the end of rehearsal. i always walked him to his dressing room. i helped him put his jacket on. sort of walked him out. he said, are you happy? i said i'm happy and proud, i'm so proud of you. these last couple of nights have

given everybody such confidence and courage and strength and i said, how about you? he said, i'm happy. i said, is there anything you want to share with anyone? any thoughts with the lighting, the staging, the choreography, the band? he said, no, i'll see you tomorrow. everything was good. it was a good night. >> the questions about drug use. diprivan was found in the home according to the associated press. what do you make of that? was that anything you saw? >> no, no, no. i saw a man with the most gorgeous children who was the happiest dad and the proudest dad with this incredible rapport with these kids. i so a guy who was so excited and looking forward to sharing these ideas with the world. saw a guy who fell in love with his family of players and they who fell in love with him. >> and there are some folks who watch that video and some say well, look, michael jackson looks like he's doing great. he's dancing, singing live. others say he looks thin, wasn't doing any significant dance moves. in terms of when people ask you what shape was michael jackson

in, what can you honestly say? >> growing, building, becoming. stronger every day. it had been many, you know, it had been, what, 13 years, travis? 13 years. so he was building himself. opening up his voice. he was building up his physical dynamic. but there was also this ingenuity, this invention that was coming out of him. you know? and he was alive and inspired and channeling and really present. >> travis, you worked with him probably intimately in a way other people haven't. as a choreographer you probably went to him home many times and worked one-on-one with him. >> we started each day together at his house. >> when you think of michael jackson is there a memory you think of? >> so many. but i've learned so much from this gentleman over the years. more than i thought i knew until he was gone. he always encouraged me to innovate, believe in my ideas. don't be nervous. don't second guess yourself. make sure you love it and they'll love it. you know, just such happy memories.

awe of them were great. always made us work much harder than we thought we could. >> for all of you it's got to feel completely surreal, though. >> it does. i know he had a wonderful, wonderful mission in his life in his art and it was always about healing the planet. it was always about bringing in awareness to our human condition and what's going on on our planet. >> and i think he's left us with a responsibility and i'm ready to accept it. i feel like i've been shot into outer space and sort of landed back down inside of my body and it's like there's this new place that i live in now. it's like michael took us on this journey, some of us for many, many, many, many years. now for this to mean anything, you know, we have a responsibility to sort of carry the importance of a lot of what michael stood for and cared about forward. >> i know you have a lot of work ahead this weekend. we'll keep in touch with you. appreciate it.

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jackson for years. here's larry's interview with gotham. >> larry: he was with us last night and we're continuing with gotham chopra. friend of michael jackson. worked with michael jackson on "dangerous" and "history." friend of deepak chopra. when things happen like this, is there any feeling of guilt or feelings that maybe i should have done more? >> yeah, absolutely. and i think through the years, i tried my best and michael responded sometimes an rilly, sometimes in denial and sometimes in acceptance. he was great at isolating himself and sort of becoming totally inaccessible. you would go weeks or months without hearing from him. what else could i have done? >> larry: was it frustrating? >> yeah. i know it was frustrating. i know i got angry certain times with him, but you know?

>> larry: now you and your father said that he talked about dying. in what respects? >> there was certain people that he sort of looked up to from james dean to elvis presley to john lennon. people who in some ways had been immortalized by their premature deaths and i think that's something that he recognized and almost envied in a way. i do think it changed a bit when he had children. he, as any parent, realizes now that you have something outside of yourself to live for. that changed him. but i still think when he looked at his creative endeavors he thought in some ways they might be immortalized by his death. >> larry: i understand. the video that was shown all day yesterday, this is part two of our interview, of course, how did it strike you to see him rehearsing and then 48 hours later he's gone? i mean, i think the whole thing has been shocking. when i heard about it, i mean, that video, michael took his

performing very seriously. he was excited about this. >> larry: and perfectionist, right? >> absolutely. he knew that this was probably going to be his last series of performances and i think for that reason he wanted them to, you know, he really wanted to be a rock star again. >> larry: did he look okay to you? >> like i said yesterday, he was always very thin. he didn't look frail to me. i've seen michael without the makeup. unlike a lot of people without the makeup and kind of being made up as elaborate as he often was when he went out and he looked okay to me. you know, at that -- you know, i think i probably wanted to see him look well and so i did. >> larry: what are your thoughts about the will in. >> you know, there's so much, i think, chaos that's going to ensue for the next few months if not years. >> larry: a challenge by the wife, maybe? >> maybe. i think ultimately, all of us who care, and i know the ex-wife

and i know the family all hope that the children's interests are first and foremost. >> larry: what about michael jackson will you most remember? >> i'll remember that he was a friend, first and foremost. that's kind of my thinking, that i've lost a great friend. he was also a brilliant and iconic artist and his talent was rooted in a lot of anguish. if you knew him, he knew that and he talked about that. it was painful to watch, but probably also in part what inspired him. >> larry: what can top him? >> maybe his legacy. >> larry: which is? >> i think we'll remember him for being probably the greatest artist of this generation, perhaps of this century. >> larry: so it will be the tapes, the videos will be shown forever? >> yeah. i think he will be immortalized

by his performances. even the last week i think, who hasn't sat around and watched, you know, the "beat it" video or the "thriller" video? >> larry: or the rehearsal video. you know that's coming. >> jermaine jackson has some revealing things to say about michael and drug use. we'll have that in 60 seconds. contain a nitrogen-enriched cleaning system... that seeks and destroys engine gunk... left by lower-quality gasoline. it protects engines from performance-robbing gunk. try new nitrogen-enriched shell gasolines.

jermaine jackson was emotional when talking to larry about michael's death. here he is talking about the aupts and other personal issues. >> larry: did you hear any results from any other autopsies? do you know any more? >> when it comes to these things they're saying, excuse me, but i'm very uneducated when it comes to drugs and i want to be that way. >> larry: there was a second autopsy. do you know of any other -- >> no, i don't know. i'm sure there's going to be all kinds of speculation and things that are being said. the most important thing is we have to look at who michael really is.

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programming note. coming up at the top of the hour, remarkable show called "360." we have breaking news in politics. sarah palin quitting her job as governor, her backyard, where she gave a long and strange press conference. we're going to show you nearly the entire press conference. you can judge for yourself. ill try to figure out exactly why she's quitting. we'll have analysis from our political team. that's coming up. drew pinsky joins us now. a lot of talk to you about. ap saying diprivan was found at michael jackson's home.

when you heard diprivan, what did you think? >> that is a bizarre, bizarre thing. i thought, oh, my goodness. martians have landed outside my house. that's hue bizarre it is. >> bizarre because it's administered in the hospital? >> i've never seen it outside of an intensive care unit. >> you work with people who are addicted? >> addicted. i've heard of anesthesiologists becoming addicted because they're aware of diprivan. i've treated many celebrities and have never seen diprivan. it's really outlandish that that medicine be utilized out of the hospital or that the patient ask for that medicine by name, dose and route of administration. something is broken down in the doct doctor/patient relationship in that situation. >> the fact that we have now learned dr. gupta tracked him down, that michael jackson on his "history" tour, michael jackson had a doctor along with another anesthesiologist on tour with him.

what does that tell you? >> that a huge problem was underway. one of the problems with celebrities, particularly powerful celebrities, they tend to think they need special care. the reality is that the standard of care in medicine is the standard of care because it's the best. when a person starts demanding something special, they often end up with substandard care. particularly celebrities -- >> which is ironic. you'd think they have all this money -- >> people with a lot of money and no money have a lot more in common with the rest of us in the middle in terms of the quality of care they get. the doctors are enamored, they sort of get seduced by the bask of the celebrity. when that celebrity turns on them and says you're awful, you're not making me feel good. i'm going to tell everybody what a horrible doctor you are, it can become a very powerful situation. >> at this point, you know, at this point we don't have the toxicology reports. until we have that, we don't know for sure what happened.

dr. deepak chopra said several years ago jackson asked him for zem roll and oxycontin. ap is reporting diprivan has been found. brian objectixman saying in the media what happened to jackson makes anna nicole smith look like nothing. what's the picture you see in. >> if you add that do ata, you have to meet criteria for that. you have to be diagnosed in order to gain access for a situation like that. once you have opiate addiction, that's a lifelong chronic disorder. if the person is using medication, asking for medication, getting extraordinary amounts and types of medication, that means addictive disease by definition is alive and well and that person's life is potentially in danger. >> i was interested to learn, if in fact it's true michael

jackson was using diprivan in order to sleep, it actually does not make you sleep. it's not giving you rem sleep. >> it's not giving you a normal sleep cycle. >> your body is not recovering in way people do if you actually sleep. >> that's exactly right. it's not in the paradigm of treatments for sleep disorders or insomnia. from the description from the nurse, michael jackson suffering from it, he really indeed was suffering. sounds like a withdrawal state. one of the things my patients complain of, i can't sleep. he may also have had insomnia. but you can't simplify insomnia. >> in celebrities you deal with, is it about the celebrity, the person, and how much is enabled by people hanging around them? >> as i said, yes, people who -- my research isn't very clear. i'm the only published literature on this topic. the people who seek to be celebrity tend to arrive at celebrity status with pre-existing -- >> it's not a normal thing to

seek out fame in the public eye. >> it's not normal. >> i speak from experience. >> not a normal thing. if you're doing it just because, hey, it's me, but people like that tend to keep people around them, keep them pumped up, feeling special. anybody who violates that risks -- >> deepak chopra would say michael jackson would make himself unavailable to you if you pushed him on something. >> deepak did refuse hill. that's, in fact, how they finally get their way. if there's somebody lined up who will gratify them. it's an alluring situation. i feel bad for the doctors who get themselves in these situations. you go in, you're well-meaning, want to help that person. they tell you what a great job you're doing and it feels good when a powerful person tells you you're doing a great job. that is a slippery seductive slope that really no one should do alone quite frankly. don't attempt this alone. >> should these doctors be hanging out socially with these people? >> cat gorically, no. the big problem here is the

violation of boundaries. you have to maintain boundaries when you're dealing with people with certain psychological pathological problems. you have to be able to them but do things that are not so fun and pleasant for them. don't fratfy them. that is something a lot of people are not equipped to do. >> so much still to learn. again, it's all up to the toxicology reports to finally get a sense. but the information that's coming out is not good. >> it's extraordinary and it's sad. >> yeah. that's the bottom line. dr. drew pinsky. appreciate it. we'll go back to neverlands, next. now the colors of life can last a lifetime. valspar -- the beauty goes on.

♪ all i wanna say is they don't really care about us ♪ very few people have been granted access to neverland since michael jackson's death.

you're about to get the grand tour. here is never before seen footage of michael jackson's one-time home. >> one of the lasting images people have when they see video of neverland is, of course, the amusement park rides. miko, those are no longer here. when you look out here what goes through your mind? can you visualize what it used to like? >> yeah. we had the zipper over here, the slide here, the carousel here, the jumbotron here where he could show videos or movies during the day or night. you could see it on a huge screen. popcorn machines, snow cone machines all over here. places for drinks and soda. he had the bumper cars over here. the racetrack was over here. basketball court. everything was just here for everyone to enjoy. >> you said the adults had just as much fun as the kids. >> the adults would sit here, watching the kids, the adults would be on the rides over and

over and over with their kids, going from ride from ride to ride, enjoying the whole park, having a good time. the music would be blaring. the lights were on. it was fun, a lot of fun. >> you got here by the train, the train and the tracks are just up there. this is the movie theater. let's go check this out. >> okay. >> inside the movie theater, miko, obviously, whatever you wanted, huh? >> he had stacked with candy, whatever you want. come back for doubles. he had ice cream, he had popcorn, he had coffee, sodas, anything you wanted. >> doubles. i love that. kids usually don't get doubles but -- >> here they went wild. the mothers said, no, no, you can only have one. he said let them have two. it's okay. >> this is the theater. before we go there we want to show you this, a dance studio, just off the theater. this is where michael jackson would rehearse. >> yeah. this was his recording studio, his dance studio. he did all his work in here. this was his area. and only his area.

>> one of the things we were shown, is you can see a circle in the floor that's back in here. this is where -- this is from michael jackson's spinning? >> yeah. i mean, that's where he would do his dance steps. he had the mirror here, he would rehearse. he had the lights here. he had everything set up to where he felt he was on stage and perform his steps and rehearse and practice. >> to the side there is a bathroom and the theater is right around the corner and check this out. obviously spent a lot of time here. tell us about this room here? >> this room here would be for the handicap to be able to watch their movie with their assistants or nurses and be able to enjoy the film and at the same time have their space. >> the sick kids that couldn't be out here with the others. >> weren't able to sit in the seats. >> this is where michael jackson sat? >> yeah. he sat either here or there. really didn't matter. he would just sit here and control the movie.

if the volume was too low, too high, the picture, if you wanted something to eat, if you wanted something to drink, whatever you wanted was right here. he controlled the whole room. right here. >> let's check out the stage. we'll walk through here. this is an incredible -- there's a trap door here. tell us about michael's love of magic. >> he loved magic. he would have magic shows here and performers up here and even have a trap door over here as you see. he would just show magic show to his family and friends and another thing, he loved magic. >> a trap door here and another one right over here. >> yeah. >> that's it for "larry king live." "360" starts now. if you're just joining us, welcome to 360 from los angeles where there are major new developments in the michael jackson story. memorial plans and police have found diprivan at his home.