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a new dust up between congress and the cia. several agencies say the lawmakers lide repeatedly since 2001. what does leon panetta say? graves dug up, bodies dumped. a disturbing scheme to resell cemetery plots. good morning, everyone. i'm tony hairs and you're in the "cnn newsroom." so, let's begin this morning with issue number one. it is the economy, a story that impacts every family in the country. new jobless numbers and what they may tell us about the trends we could see in the months to come, as always. the cnn money team has you covered. our chief business correspondent ali velshi with me here in atlanta and susan lisovicz at the new york stock exchange. susan, let's start with you. if you would, walk us through
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this weekly job's report. >> hi, tony. well, new claims for unemployment benefits fell by a big amount. more than 50,000 to 565,000. so, that was much better than the street expected. it's the first time that number has dropped below 600,000 since the beginning of the year. it is just one week, so you can't say this is a trend. it also tends to be a volatile time of year. you get auto shutdowns and other manufacturers shutting down. so, it's kind of a crap shoot as to the guess. we do have another number to tell you about and that is continuing claims and that rose to another record to 6.9 million. so, it certainly proves that finding work is tough. >> all right, i want to pose this question to both of you. aliy will start with you because i know you ultimately want to turn the corner and find out how
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we teach these jobs and let me preface this way. let me give you the broader picture here. what has happened to the jobs in this country? >> two very different things have happened to the jobs in this country. a couple industries that have been in decline for a long time. in particular, the manufacturing industry, that is where many jobs have been lost and that has been going on for years, where we outsource manufacturing to cheaper places like asia. we saw a weakness in home building and that caused job losses in the construction sector and as it hit the rest of the economy, people weren't buying things and everyone involved in making, selling, producing or providing a service started losing jobs. only, only a couple bright spots in the last year. health care is the brightest spot by far across the board. and education is doing very well. but it's a bunch of different things. even at the end of this
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recession, as susan will tell you, some of these jobs will come back. but manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. >> you concur, susan? >> no question about it. as ali said, tony, there is job growth in health care and education and for many months we've seen it in government, as well. not enough to offset the losses we've seen. in manufacturing, leisure, travel, you know, all of these areas. >> can i stop you for a moment and let me stop you both for just a moment and have you stand by because i believe when i go to house speaker nancy pelosi right now, you may know this story. the house speaker is not the only one, not the only democrat who is now saying that the cia deceived lawmakers for years, especially from 9/11 until now when it comes to interrogation techniques and a broad range of issues beyond interrogation techniques. she is holding her weekly
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meeting with reporters and i just want to have you listen in. brea brianna keilar asked her a question on that subject. >> it's not something that is designed to outdo the private sector, but to have real competition. the private sector has had the field to itself up until now. the system hasn't really worked for a large number of people in that country. >> clearly, now, we're talking about health care. let's listen in. >> public option is a way, as the president says, to keep the private sector honest. but it has to be a level playing field. not something that is subsidized by the federal government in any way that is different than subsidies to individuals which can be used in the public or private sector. >> intelligence question you say you'll receive that briefing. >> no. >> will you be pursuing that and
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what is your take? >> i know what you know. i've seen the letters from the members and, obviously, they have concern. the intelligence committee has the oversight responsibility for intelligence in the house and equivalent committee in the senate. i'm sure they will be pursuing this in their regular committee process and that's the way it will go. >> silence the debate over the propriety, propriety of your making charges and not the substance of your charges? >> i didn't know there was any question about propriety. i'm very proud of my work in human rights over the years and people know where i am on the issues and i have -- well, i don't think -- no, this is an excuse, not a reason. as i told you, our success is driving the republicans to distractions and any excuse will do. the fact is that there is a briefing that is of serious concern to members of the committee and they have their course of action to deal with
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it. and that's that. >> leader boehner has take an pledge that he will not vote for health care bills that he has read and he has a chance to read in its entirety or until it's available online to the public for 72 hours. will you take that pledge? >> is this the pledge other than keeping with his having read all the bills that he ever voted for. i don't know what his pledge is. but we pledge to have a full process that with ample time for the legislation to be well known to the public. every person in america is an expert on his or her health care and they're all very curious about what will be there. yes, sir. >> madam speaker, the other day in los angeles held up a copy and praising the life and work of michael jackson and i wonder,
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do you favor bringing that to the floor and if not, why? >> to the popular culture now and michael jackson was a great, great performer. and lots of sadness there for many reasons. what i have said to my colleagues over the years and certainly as leader and as speaker that there's an opportunity on the floor of the house to expresident their sympathy or their praise any time that they wish. i don't think it's necessary for us to have a resolution. >> why not? >> well, because i think in this case if the idea is to praise the life and work, as i assume that resolution does, then why not do that? a resolution, i think, would open up two contrary views that are not necessary at this time to be expressed in association with the resolution whose purpose is quite different. >> madam speaker, how often do
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you speak to leon panetta and do you receive your regular intelligence briefing? >> okay, let's -- >> when he called to say he was named and i offered my enthusiastic support for his becoming the director, i think, was that probably the last time i spoke to him or maybe i had one briefing from him earlier. it could be two. i don't know. but not recently. and i do get my regular briefings. the director of national intelligence, dennis blair, has been briefing me. >> madam speaker, to name the members of the financial committee and if not, when will you? >> imminently. i will let you know as soon as i have them. >> madam speaker, you mentioned the other day there might be a second stimulus and what is your
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position on that? >> i'm committed to the first stimulus. i don't think it has been given all the time to work. this third quarter is a big quarter for the stimulus and i think that people will begin to see more of the results. even dr. zandy who said that if it falls short it will still be over 2.5 million jobs saved or created. we hope that it will be better than that. the question is always open as to what the administration may recommend to us, but right now i believe that we have much more to gain from from seeing through the first stimulus. i am a proponent for bringing up a full transportation bill, which is a great job's bill. at some point when they have to do something on the extension of unemployment benefits, but in terms of the investments that were made in the first package, i want to play that out where we
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have to be very careful about the spending on this. and i respect what the open opportunity that the stimulus majority leader put out there. but right now i think we have big issues with health care and how we fund that and if we do go some place, i'd like to see us ú@ cbo score the health care bill before it's voted on in the house? is there an upper limit to the new debt you're willing to incur from that bill and, if so, what is that limit? >> we have to have the cbo score. that's the world we live in. having said that, the cbo does not score any savings from prevention and the rest and as we put the bill forward, we want to know that our goal is to lower costs, improve quality and make america healthier. so, we have other validations
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that some omb and others academic and other distinguished institutions who can quantify exactly how much the hundreds of billions of dollars of savings are in some of the initiatives we take. so, with respect to the cbo score says we will put it in the context of a larger context. some in the congress want to direct scoring to include the benefits of prevention for example and early intervention and we have to have that score before we go forward. and that's part of what we're waiting for for the pay fors and then the cbo scoring after that as to what the bill will cost. as i said, i want this, i've told members as recently as this morning, squeeze out what you can out of the system. savings, savings, savings. and then we, we have to
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establish priorities. and that's very challenging, but otherwise the bill is endless. so we have to contain it. and it must be paid for. >> do you support the deal -- >> okay, this is the weekly gathering. the house speaker nancy pelosi holds with moebs of the press and a number of issues discussed there and we'll talk for just a moment and then bring our brianna keilar in on the discussion. the secretary was asked about health care, i think you heard a portion of that. she was also asked a question about whether you recall on tuesday during the memorial service for michael jackson sheila jackson said she'd introduce a resolution on the house floor praising the life of michael jackson. i think you heard very clearly there from the house speaker, that will not happen. clearly what that means is the house speaker doesn't want the debate in the various areas informed that debate could take and that the speaker doesn't
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have the vote to pass such a resolution. there is also, there was also a couple of questions in that meeting with the press where the speaker was asked to respond to a letter that was by house democrats accusing leon panetta of contradicting himself and mislead congress for a number of years since 2001. you'll recall that the house speaker in a really contentious news conference. so, it feels like two months ago made the claim that the cia held back details about harsh interrogation techniques. there was a lot of back and forth that followed that news conference and there were a couple of questions on that topic today, just moments ago. i believe our brianna keilar. is brianna ready? not yet. okay. all right, so, when the moment that we get brianna to talk about how that was handled, those questions were handled by the house speaker we'll get to
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brianna. right now, we'll get to reza sayah. demonstrations in the iranian capital, tehran. already reports of clash business between security forces and demonstrators. reza is at the news desk. what do you have for us? >> the first protests and clashes we've seen over the past couple years. we have the first piece of video and appears to be from the protest today. let's go ahead and run that for you. this is, we believe, somewhere near in the resolution square. as you see people chanting and those chants are getting aggressive. you used to hear god is great, now, when you listen to this video, you hear death to the dictator. also the chants of, hey government, they pulled off a coup, resign, resign. so, some pointed chants from demonstrators targeting the government. let's go ahead and pause this for a second and tell you where
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this is exactly happening. this is right here. the commotion started here about a couple hours ago, hundreds of people, according to our observers gathered here. they were met there by thousands of security forces who pushed them away. they started moving up to the streets north of tehran square. let's go ahead and show you that video again and this was the result. coming into the iran desk for the past couple hours, observers telling us that reports of gunfire on these streets and shots fired in an effort to disperse the protesters or tear gas canisters. eyewitnesses said many were rubbing their eyes. reports of trash cans being burned and on a couple occasions i spoke to observers on the ground and i could clearly hear loud chants of god is great, death to the dictator. again, tony, we haven't seen this in about a couple of weeks and this many observers agree because of the aggressive
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government crackdown to put a stop to these types of protests and many point to this day and say this is a barometer of protesters. have they been discouraged? will they stay away? today marking a ten-year anniversary of a student protest in 1999 where several students died. they're using this opportunity to come back and tell the government that despite warnings to stay away, that they're still here, still protesting the election results on june 12th. >> reza, when we come back to you later in the hour, if we have time this hour and maybe next hour. maybe you can take us back in time and how the events of that day are being remembered today in these protests that you're showing us the first images of. reza sayah from our iran desk. fixing health care, can it be done? who is going to pay for it? what does an overhaul mean for you?
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texas where 98 in houston and with high humidity it will feel warmer. spots like austin, they had incredible heat over the last couple days. 106, in fablth. that's where they got to yesterday afternoon. 106 in lubbock and mccal analytal cooler, but not much and midland with 103. they can see out on the basen and maybe in midland before the day is out. in atlanta things cool because of all the cloud cover. we're expecting highs only up in the 80s. the reason for the cloud cover and cooler temperatures is due to this area of low pressure and this boundary across parts of the gulf coast and back towards the gulf coast and carolina. keep the clouds at bay and also give a chance of scattered showers. the best chance of rough weather will take place in the western half of the great lakes and especially by the late afternoon hours. now, we're looking at the
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house speaker nancy pelosi took questions from the media. it's what she does every week and, brianna, i take it, i heard one question, but i suspect there were a couple questions about this letter that democrats have sent to the director, leon panetta, accusing penetta telling congress one thing. this all goes back to the house speaker's contentious news conference. it feels like a couple months ago where she essentially made the same claims against the cia that the agency held back details about harsh interrogation techniques. how does she handle the one, maybe two questions she took on this topic? >> i asked her if she'd had this briefing from cia director panetta that democratic members of the house intelligence committee who sent that letter said they had. they say that leon panetta told them that the cia was
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withholding information or misleading congress about certain things of the cia since 2001 for the last eight years. she said she has not had that briefing and she told the media that she knows what we know and she said that what this really is, someone asked maybe if this will silence critics, silence republican critics who said she needed to back up her claim that the cia misled her, specifically in a 2002 briefing on harsh interrogation tactics like waterboarding and she said because of democratic successes, these are her words that republicans have been driven to detract from that and that's what's going on there. the bottom line from her perspeckive is this raises mysterious concerns that the intelligence committee will have to deal with. she shied away from getting to it in any major way, tony. >> that's what i it sounded like. i thought i heard the same thing. brianna keilar, we appreciate
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in the developing world, some people scratch out a living sorting through garbage. now an artist found a way to keep trash from piling up for those who rely on it for their liveliho livelihoods. garbage, it's everywhere you look in indonesia's capital. the streets are cluttered and the canals are clogged. >> to afford clean streets. you know, they could handle as much as they could afford for flood control. >> reporter: what's an eye sore to some is a meal ticket for others. an estimated 350,000 to 450,000 trash pickers make a living collecting the waste from jakarta streets. many of these workers try to support families on less than $35 a month. this artist wanted to help the
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city produce less waste without hurting the people who rely on it. she created excess project. >> what we're doing now is not rocket science. it's a simple segue between unsustainable design. what we're doing here is keeping trash out of the landfills. >> reporter: reached out to local trash pickers in her community and she offered them above market prices to begin collecting plastic consumer packagings and this nonrepsychoable material became the idea behind this line of projects. >> what you see is what you get and i want you to see it. i want you to buy your garbage back. >> reporter: from trash collection to cleaning and sewing, it offars chance for sustainable living. >> this is a floor pillow made from the leftover waste from excess projects. so, we made these.
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>> reporter: as the need for sustainability grows, she realizes her work is just beginning. she has started a scholarship program for the children in her trash picker communities. and another project in the philippines where she lives and where the idea for the project is born. but she believes her greatest success has been spreading awareness. groups like seven moms have started similar projects. local mothers aiming to educate their own neighborhoods. >> there are many, many groups now doing this and that is very pertinent. that means people are seeing solutions. xsproject is about design solutions and then people take the solutions and say, i can do that and make their own job at it. >> reporter: as awareness takes root, she dreams up new ways to combat the trash problem, one wrapper at a time. and for more about the xs project or other groups working
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cemetery dug up more than 100 graves. the sheriff says it was a scheme to resell burial plots at the cemetery in alsip 20 miles south of chicago. today they're trying to learn just how many graves have been disturbed. >> we're bringing in some high-tech machines that are going to be able to use ultrawaves and light to make sure that nothing has been tampered with. we have thermal imaging units that will be on site here soon and we're going to double check everybody's because, as we told people, this is an incredibly historic cemetery for the african-american community, but as well as the notables, there are regular family members everywhere, children, grandparents, when you look at some of the grave stones that we come across dumped throughout the cemetery and have been hidden, you see grave stones of babies, you see grave stones of grandparents, wives, husbands.
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this is heartbreaking stuff. >> heartbreaking to be sure. listen to this, cnn just confirmed as many as 300 graves, 300 graves may have been disturbed. among those buried at burr oak, blues singer diana washington, harlem globetrotter and several negro league baseball players. cheryl jackson is at the cemetery right now and she's on the phone with us. cheryl, first of all, how did we learn of this story? how did this come to light? >> several of the workers here at the grave yard actually told police about this and we are talking about four people being charged. one office manager and three grave diggers charged with felony dismembering of a human body. they admitted to tampering with the bodies and throwing them in piles here, at least 300. police tell us just now that they think it may be even more.
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>> cheryl, have they found those bodies. >> they are still digging. even now. we are literally standing in an area where they are digging and there are piles with bones and teeth and several of the vaults, several of them in tact and several of them crushed. we are literally standing here while they're still digging and trying to figure out what's going on here. >> are you kidding me? >> i'm not kidding you. just terrifying to see are the people who are wandering around the cemetery looking for their family members and some of them, we've talked to one lady, she said, my brother's not here. there are people just wandering around looking for their family members. >> you mention, what is it, four people have been arrested? >> yes. >> an office worker and three grave diggers. >> yes. >> okay. this, the suggestion isn't that this was something that was hatched by just these four people. is there any suggestion that
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there is a bigger, broader scheme than something that was just undertaken by these four people? >> right now police believe these four people are the ones that have hatched this. >> they hatched this whole scheme. >> they do not believe the cemetery ownership is involved. all indications say cemetery ownership is not involved in this. >> my goodness. cheryl, is it our understanding, your understanding that these people will be in court next hour? >> yes, it is. it is. i just have to say again, this is just a sight to see. i'm looking at people wandering around from grave to grave looking for their family members and many of them not finding them. >> cheryl, do we know whether or not the people who have been arrested are cooperating? when i say cooperating, have they directed the authorities to where to dig? >> yes, they have. they have told them, they told them about this one space where they believe all the bodies are.
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but police now say they are worried inside the grave yard because this is just a little bit outside the grave yard they're worried inside the grave yard that bodies are buried on top of bodies and that is a bigger problem. they expect to have fbi help from around the world to try to figure out this mess. >> cheryl jackson a freelance reporter helping us with this story. cheryl, thank you so much. that is really disturbing. we'll get back to you a bit later. all right, let's move to health care now. the critical issue over health care reform right now is how to pay for it. lawmakers deeply divided on how to cover the ten-year, $1 trillion price tag. let's turn now to elizabeth cohen, as always, she's here with me in atlanta. joining us from new york is cnnmoney.com jean sahadi. it's clear, this health care reform has to be paid for
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through savings and revenue streams and the folks at home listened to linda douglass, the communication director for the white house office of health reform. she was talking to us yesterday about what the president has put on the table on the savings side and just a reminder here to everyone. as we listen to this, the number that has to be covered is $1 trillion, just $1 trillion over ten years. let's listen. >> the president has already put $950 billion on the table. the $600 billion of which is savings that he's talking about reducing waste and fraud and all of the reasons that health care costs in the public sector are rising so much. in addition, he's proposing to return it to the wealthiest americans back to where they were when ronald reagan was president. that's an idea he likes. >> so, jeanne, let's start with you. congress needs to come up with more than $300 billion in tax
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revenue in the next decade. what are the options being discussed and let's start with the one that carries the most promise but may be off the table now. >> it is still on the table, but may be modified quite a bit. the biggest one on the table was taxing health benefits that you receive at work and employsers tend to pay between 60% to 80% of workers premiums. that money is tax free to you and under the proposals some piece of that might be subject to income tax if they set what's called a cap at the value of the benefit. you can do that 100 different ways, but depending on how they set the cap, some people would have to pay tax on that money and a lot of pushback by democrats and a lot of pushback by unions and the poll shows americans don't really like the idea because, guess what, no one likes to pay taxes. >> no one likes to pay taxes. >> they're looking at alternatives and senator baucus said it's still on the table,
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but the indication is that it might be much modified from what they were thinking of. >> so, elizabeth, if you tax employee health care benefits, what would that mean for you and me? for everyone watching. >> because right now people who get insurance through their employer, your employer's paying a lot of money, sometimes like $10,000, $20,000 and it's a lot of money and we don't have to pay taxes on it. what a deal. there is some thought maybe that should be ended. there's a million different ways to look at this. if you look at one of the plans to gain traction in congress, if you look at one of those plans, under that plan in ten years, half the people who get insurance through their employers, they would pay nothing. but the other half of people who get generous from their employers, have to pay about $1,000 a year ten years from now. $1,000 a year for a middle income person and extra tax physical you start taxing
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benefits. >> for those getting what's called the cadillac plan. >> for those getting a pretty good plan there. half the people wouldn't have to pay anything. the half that do, if you look down the middle, $1,000 a year in extra taxes. >> jeanne, did you want to jump in? >> they may pay less if they index that cap to medical costs. medical costs grow so quickly. if they only grow it to inflation, that grows much more slowly. the more generous the index, the less you'll pay tax. >> a million ways to slice it and this was done by the urban institute. there are a million ways to do it. that one has the most traction. >> there is some talk and more on the house side than the senate side of raising some revenue here by taxing, taxes and we're talking about alcohol and cigarettes and soda pop and that sort of thing. elizabeth, what is your take on that? >> that's been tossed around in
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general, not just for health care reform but in general. if you make yourself sick by becoming fat or getting lung cancer, well, you should have to pay for that. people have mixed feelings on this because it could disproportionately affect people of lower income, people of lower means because they tend to consume those products more. those folks might pay higher taxes and then you could make the argument, well, they're going to benefit under health care reform more than anything else. but i think what the bottom line here is, tony, this is expensive. $1 trillion over ten years. someone has to pay for it. no health care reform fairies writing checks. no one wants to say it quite this way, but plain old americans may be funding some of this, whether it's in the form of higher taxes out of your paycheck or at the grocery store. >> something that is being talked about. the idea of taxing individuals that make more than $200,000 and couples that make more than
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$250,000. >> it's called a surtax and the way it would work, you would pay your income taxes in a normal way and if you have income above those caps, you would be subject to a 2% rate or 3% rate and we don't know what they're going to decide on, some small percentage that would apply to the top part of your income if you exceed the threshold. i do want to say that there is a lot of suggestion out there on how the wealthy can pay for all sorts of things. >> sulking the rich is what we hear all the time. we need the rich to provide the stimulus for jobs and everything else. >> but, you know, even without that argument there's not enough money to tap all the things we want to tap the rich for. president obama's idea was to itemize deductions that high taxpayers could take. if they're in a pinch and they have to make the steps, maybe they'll reconsider it. maybe they could exclude the charitable contributions from
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this rule if they pass it because that's what everyone was complaining about. well, you know, the real estate industry is not going to like it if they limit the mortgage deduction. the bottom line, everybody has a reason not to like one of these options and the general point about taxing the rich for everything is we're going to run out of money from the rich because we have so much more to pay for than health care. president obama already wants to raise the income rates going forward. that is not enough. people will have to tax the rates across the board, not enough just to focus on high-income people. >> how much can you soak the rich, like at a certain point can they pay for that $1 trillion? the obama administration to great pains to say, we're going to tax the rich and sort of what she was trying to say, don't you worry, we'll only tax the rich and some people aren't so convinced. if we want health care reform, everyone will have to pay something. >> elizabeth cohen and jeanne
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sahadi. thank you. you're terrific. terrific insights. we also want to hear from you. give you an opportunity to weigh in. josh levs is here to explain. >> background. when you're talking about how you're going to pay for this. we are a nation trillions of dollars in debt already. we're tackling that and coming out ahead. massive expenses and that's why it's a great topic and let me show you how you can weigh in. we have our blog here. cnn.com/tony. i think we have a graphic that represents you. cnn.com/tony and we also have a phone number set up. >> no, no, do we have it? >> there you go. cnn.com/tony. shorter than it used to be, right? you just get right to the page and it will take you there. i believe we have the phone number one, as well. 877-742-5760. we want you to encourage you to call us. so many people struggled in the
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medical system that there are a lot of viewers with strong opinions and often insights. on the computer behind me, i'll just show you a couple so you can see the kind of things we're getting. some will see this and say, i need to weigh in because i disagree. instead of the stimulus giving money to businesses, give it to the medical field. here's one from aaron, it's a small portion of the population that are volunteering for the military, but they do it because it's better for us as a society in general. he uses that as an argument to tax the rich. he says, you know what, think of this as similar. now, obviously, you can poke holes in that, as well. your view on how to push health care and what the big obstacles are. >> i love talking about this. it is a huge debate for this country. what do we want to do about health care. do we want the system that we have or reform it? it's a wonderful debate. >> one thing that really gets people in their hearts because it's your mother and your family
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before that, let's give you the perspective, the protest happening in this square dispersed, that's where we're going to take you. according to the video this is the street which is north of the revolution square, scene of the protests, that started about three hours ago, 5:00 p.m. local time in iran. according to eyewitnesss, hundreds of people gathered in revolution square. they were met by security forces who dispersed them. i believe we also have video coming in to the iran desk about a couple of hours ago. showing some clashes from earlier in the day. again, we county out we cannot confirm the date and the location of this. >> sure, sure. >> but according to the video posted, it is from july 9th, and there you see some demonstrators, some clashes, some trash cans being set on fire. tony, some aggressive chants being pointed towards the government. we've heard the chant of god is great. now, when you listen to this video, you're also hearing death
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to the dictator, death to khamenei. and a new chant, hey government that pulled off a coup, re-sign, re-sign. we hadn't seen the protests or clashes the past couple of weeks. many using the opportunity, the ten-year anniversary of a student protest back in 1999, to come back out and speak out against the vote and that's what you're seeing here today, tony. >> okay. can we go back to the first video? can we roll it again? i don't know if it's a rslution issuer on what it is, i'm not able to see it clearly. maybe you can see it better. can you describe what you are seeing there? >> people are not allowed to have cameras at areas like this, so they are using a cell phone. this looks like someone who used his cell phone sideways. this is karghar street, which is in order of where the protests started earlier today. >> got you. >> it started here. security forced disbursed them. this is the video that you're looking at here, kharghar
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street. this is the same thing that people everybody telling us this morning. people coming out to this location being met by security forces. tary gas was used. we've also heard eyewitnesss telling us that they heard what appeared to be gunshots. it could have been tear gas canisters. security forces have used gunshots to try to disperse the crowd. but it looks like some are still out there. >> thank you. coming up in the next hour of "cnn newsroom," hell care reform carries a hefty price tag and lawmakers are deadlocked on how to pay for it. a lot of talk about health care today. we will tap into the discussion with our brianna keilar. new details about the intervention the jackson family tried to have with michael within the last few years of his life. a tiny, down on its luck town in georgia is seeing a change in its fortunes because of the auto industry.
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okay, he just passed. he just passed. >> did you see that? okay, a 14-year-old michigan boy may be facing charges after leading police on a hair-raising chase. listen. yeah, yeah. speeds topped 100 miles an hour before the teen flipped his dad's chevy tahoe on an embankment. oh, he had two passengers for the joyride. his 10-year-old brother and 12-year-old cousin. and they weren't about to take the blame. >> it's not my fault. it's all oscar's fault. it's all oscar's fault.
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i just had to take the car. i swear to god. >> okay, okay. do not move, you understand me? >> wow. the kids say they were going for ice cream. and would have made it except for that wrong turn! sorry. the kids were bumped up pretty good, but no severe injuries. here's the question -- will you have to pay so all americans can have health care coverage? taxing the rich to pay for the poor. how do you feel about that, america? it is one of the plans being debated right now by lawmakers. cnn congressional correspondent, brianna keilar, reports from capitol hill. >> reporter: with president obama overseas, vice president joe biden stepped in to push the administration's top priority, health care reform. >> folks, reform is coming. it is on track. it is coming. we have tried for decades -- for decades -- to fix a broken system, and we have never, in my entire tenure in public life, been this close.
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>> reporter: biden touted a deal with the hospital industry. hospitals will give up $155 billion in medicare and medicaid payments over the next ten years. money that would help pay for health care reform. but it's not enough. not nearly enough. congressional democrats are divided on how to pay for much of the trillion dollar price tag. max baucus is chairman of the senate's tax-writing committee. >> it's always difficult to raise revenue, always, always, always. but we got to pay for the bill. >> reporter: a key provision to tax employer health benefits may be dead. democrats, aware that recent polls show most americans oppose the idea, are souring on taxing benefits and so is maine senator, olympia snowe, a moderate republican working on a bipartisan deal. >> i believe that we should just move from there and take it off the table and move forward and find other alternatives. >> okay. our congressional correspondent, brianna keilar, joining me live
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now from capitol hill, and with me here in atlanta, our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. all right, brianna, let's start with you. last hour, speaker pelosi, meeting with reporters, as she does every week. she was asked several questions about health care reform and how it would be paid for. let's listen to how she answered the question, and then let's follow-up with a question for you. >> i have told what i call the three tenors, mr. waxman, mr. miller, and mr. rangel, that we must wring every possible dollar out of the health care system now, waste, fraud, abuse, excess, whatever it is. that may be redundant or unnecessary, in order to help cover the cost. because this bill will be paid for. members now are establishing priorities, and our ways and means committee is talking about some of the pay-fors as we go forward. we will not be taxing benefits,
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health care benefits, in any legislation that comes from the house. >> all right, so, brianna, so the question now is, let's recap here. the bill will be paid for. we will not be taxing benefits. and members are establishing priorities. how is the house going to pay for the bill that it wants to get out on friday? >> reporter: and you heard her use the term there, tony, "pay-fors." >> pay-fors. >> reporter: we're looking for pay-fors, because that's a way to save taxes. >> yes. >> reporter: you heard her say they want to wring all the savings out of the health care system that they can, whether it's redundancies or waste or fraud. but the fact is it's not enough to foot the bill, the entire $1 trillion price tag. so, the bottom line they have to raise taxes and in the house where they are considering their own health care proposal, they are considering a slate of proposals, everything from taxing households that make more than $250,000 all the way to putting a tax on sugary drinks
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like sodas, but, yes, they are not planning on taxing the employer-provided benefits. >> wow, can i ask you for a bit of a big-picture look at you're covering this debate. how contentious is it getting? i have a sense that we're getting to a place where the rubber meets the road here and we're really drilling down on how to pay for it. and, elizabeth, i want to ask you that question in just a moment. what is your sense as to how this is playing out? >> reporter: i think you are realizing this is the sausage making that goes on on capitol hill. >> we love it by the way. >> reporter: it's the fine print we're dealing with. not only is there the sticky issue of how to pay for the huge package, there's also the substantive issue of what is it going to look like. a lot of democrats favor the so-called public option, the government-run insurance plan. well, when you look at -- not the house, because they have an ample majority there, but you look at the senate where the rubber really hits the road and even just among the democrats, even though they have the important 60 votes, democrats don't agree on this.
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so, they're considering this idea of a nonprofit health cooperative, kind of looking at it a co-op sense, and we're still trying to figure out the details. but we are hopefully getting them. and, yeah, this is really the time to pay attention as they work through this, tony. >> all right, brianna, we've got to let you go. our folks over at cnn international want you desperately. thank you. >> reporter: of course. >> let's bring in elizabeth cohen, look, we got to pay for it. >> right. a trillion dollars. >> what sit $100 billion a year? >> $a 1 billion over the course of ten years. as i said earlier, there are no health care reform fairies writing checks. the money has to come from somewhere and -- >> well, taxing benefits. do you believe it's still on the table? >> you know, having talked to some folks at cnn who cover capitol hill, they say it may be there. it certainly has lost popularity, but it doesn't mean it's absolutely, 100% off the table. >> yeah. >> they start taxing benefits, that means some people that get
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insurance through their employers, you may see higher taxes or for a can of soda. the bottom line as much as it might sound nice to say we're going to tax the rich and get rid of the waste and fraud and that will pay for it, as we go through this process, that appears -- that won't take care of everything. it may, indeed, be everybody who has to pay for this, not just the rich. >> i asked brianna a moment ago, the sort of big-picture, health care reform, where we are and how difficult a process this is going to be to get real reform. the same question to you. >> i'm going to big picture it so much that i'm going to go back to harry truman, okay? way back. a long view. why is it that he didn't manage to get health care reform going? why is it that hillary clinton in 1993 didn't manage to get health care reform going? the reason is, is that when you try to reform the health care system, you make people mad. it's very simple. you make taxpayers poe ten
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tentially mad, because you might be asking them for money. you might be making doctors mad, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, because they might all stand to make less money. >> it's untenable, it's unsustainable to have 45 million, 46 million, 47 million uninsured. >> exactly. >> you can't afford that either. >> hopefully the light at the end of the tunnel is the 46 million americans will be insured. wouldn't that be great? but you know what, it might be painful getting there. >> elizabeth, thanks. >> thank you. >> man, it's a good debate! all right. we want to hear from you on this issue. good stuff. just go to my blog. weigh in, weigh in, weigh in, weigh in. cnn.com/tony. tell me what is the biggest obstacle to passing health care reform legislation. what do you think it is? later this hour we will share your comments. josh levs will be back to help us do just that. president obama, monitoring the health care debate and other issues from overseas right now.
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he's with other world leaders at the g-8 summit in italy. they've been tackling global warming issues today. the leaders have pledged to achieve a 50% reduction in global emissions by 2050. at least most of the leaders have. here is a look at how president obama is faring here at home. a new cnn/opinion research corporation poll asks -- if he is a strong leader. 70% say yes. 28% say no. but when asked if the president has a clear plan for solving the country's problems, 53% of those polled say yes. 45%, no. seven house democrats accused cia director, leon panetta, of telling conflicting stories about his agency's dealings with congress. those accusations and a letter alleging panetta recently told congress the cia has repeatedly concealed info since 2001. speaker nancy pelosi was asked about that last hour. >> speaker, back on the intelligence question. you said you haven't received that briefing yet.
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>> no. >> so, will you be pursuing that? and what is your take on what has evolved in the last 24 hours with this? >> i know what you know. i've seen the letters from the members. and obviously they have concern. the intelligence committee has the oversight responsibility for intelligence in the house, and equivalent committee in the senate. i'm sure they will be pursuing this in their regular committee process. and that's the way it will go. >> so, let's get more on this now from our joe johns. >> reporter: democrats now say the cia dissieved lawmakers for years, especially from 9/11 until now and that the cia's own boss admitted it in closed-door testimony. a letter signed by seven house democrats accuses director, leon panetta, of contradicting himself and telling congress that cia officials misled congress about significant actions for a number of years since 2001. and in light of that, they want him to take back a statement he
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made on may 15th when he said misleading congress was, quote, against our laws and values. back then, panetta was defending his agency against house speaker, nancy pelosi, who said the cia lied to congress in a classified briefing she received in 2002. >> they mislead us all the time. >> reporter: pelosi said the cia held back details about harsh interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, something the obama administration considers torture. since then, many republicans have called nancy pelosi's complaint an unwarranted attack on the integrity of the cia and have demanded that she back up her claims. it is not clear what specific actions the democrats say the cia lied about or concealed. a cia spokesman tells cnn that panetta stands by his earlier statement, that it is not cia policy to mislead congress. >> joe johns reporting. well, for the first time in nearly two weeks, protesters are
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back on the streets of tehran. although the numbers are lower. also, we're hearing the u.s. has handed over to iraq five iranians who had been detained in iraq since 2007. our reza sayah is following all of these developments from our iran desk. re reza? >> we have new video coming in to the iran desk, but before we show it to you, let's give you some perspective where it is. this is where the protest started about three hours ago. police dispersed some of the protesters. they went north. and this is what we're going to look at. this, according to this video, are protesters who dispersed from revolution square. we cannot confirm the date and the location, but it does match what observers have been telling us over the past few days. we also have video from earlier in the day that came to the iran desk. and that shows some of the clashes between security forces and protesters. these are the first clashes that we've seen in about two weeks.
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police officers, police officials, had warned people not to come out to the streets. otherwise, they warned, a crackdown. some of the eyewitness accounts coming to the iran desk, one eyewitness said a man with a bloody face was being encouraged to go into an ambulance. he refused. several eyewitnesss reported members of the pro-government basij beating people with batons. also we're hearing aggressive, pointed chants, targeting the government. we're hearing "death to the dictator, death to khamenei." also a new one we're hearing today in the video you're looking at "hey, government, that pulled off a coup, resign, resign." so, tony, there has been a lull over the past couple of weeks because of the government crackdown. members of the opposition movement have stayed home. a lot of people had their eyes on this date, a ten-year anniversary of the student protest that took place back in 1999. members of the opposition movement, without approval from
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opposition leaders, apparently used this opportunity to come out into the streets and protest the june 12th vote. >> i see. and, reza, what do you know about the u.s. handing over iranians to iraq who had been held by the u.s. in iraq? >> iranians say they were innocent diplomats. but americans say these were members of the revolutionary guard. they had been kept for some time, but they were released today. by the way, we have been monitoring iranian state-funded television. no indication of any coverage of the situation in revolution square, the protests, but that news that we were just talking about, the release of these individuals, that was the top story in some of these newscasts, tony. >> okay, reza sayah at our iran desk, reza, thank you. you know, you can actually still find some decent airfares these days. can you believe it? how long will that last?
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an alleged grave-selling scheme near chicago. cnn has confirmed that four people have been charged and will appear in court this hour. the cooke county sheriff's office said employees at the histor historic cemetery dug up people. who are the people that have been charged and will appear in court this hour and what jobs did they hold for the company that -- i don't know if the company owned or just simply operated the cemetery? >> yes, they operated the cemetery. one office manager and three grave diggers have been charged. they've been charged with felony dismembering of a human body, and that is a felony "x." i don't know exactly what it means, but they said it's a very serious felony. right now, you can just see the scene out here. people wandering around looking for their family members. we have actually gone back into the cemetery where we saw piles
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that the police are working on, where you can see literally bones. we talked to the sheriff who said he was wandering around, just trying to assess things. and he actually stepped into a pile of bones. i mean, that's how bad the situation is. and he said, like you said, about 300 people is what they admitted to. police believe it's going to be turn out to be much more than that. >> hey, cheryl, did the people who have been charged with this provide the information that's leading to this search for these remains? >> yes, they did. they told police that it was in this one location. but now i guess one other person has admitted that maybe the bodies are buried on top of each other. and that inside the cemetery. the piles of bones and rubble and on the back side of the cemetery, on the outside. so, it looks like there's going to be some internal investigations inside the cemetery. fbi is coming from around the world with imaging equipment and that kind of thing to be able to
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figure out exactly what's going on. >> have you been able to talk to any of the people who you've described poignantly to us as wandering around on the grounds looking for their loved ones? >> yes. one woman, just looked at me and said, my brother is not here. and then she said, what do you do if your family member is gone? and i think that's the question that's going to be -- >> oh, yeah. >> -- the hardest to answer, you know, is what do you do, you know? >> how did this scheme, this -- oh, boy -- this scheme come to light? >> well, actually, some people that actually worked in the cemetery actually told police about it. that's how it came to light. now, they don't believe the cemetery ownership has anything to do with this. they believe these four people actually are the ones who hatched this scheme. and it was very sloppy scheme in a lot of ways because there are bones, according to police, just strewn throughout the cemetery, on the inside and on this back side where there's several of the bodies are piled. >> do we have any idea -- and
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i'm asking questions, it may just be too early in the investigation to know the answers to some of these questions. but do we have any idea of how long this plot, this scheme, had been operating? >> i have not heard any information about that. about how long. >> yeah. >> but the woman whose brother was -- she was unable to find her brother -- he was actually buried in 1983. and today she said when i walked to where his grave was, it is grass that has been recently mowed and there's no stone, nothing there so -- >> and, cheryl, just for clarification, the people that reported the plot, are they the same people that have been arrested or different employees? >> different employees. different employees. >> okay. and any statement yet from the company that owns the cemetery? >> no statement yet. we are expecting at least from police and some official statements here at about 1:00. >> okay. >> we have had no statement. actually we've been told by
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police that no one involved from the cemetery is even on the scene and that's causing a little bit of chaos, because you see hundreds of people filing through the gates. >> oh, my goodness, are you kidding me? >> and nobody can say where the plots are. they don't know where to start. >> so you're talking about no one from the company that's operating the cemetery, no one from the company that owns the cemetery is on site right now? >> no. they are trying to get someone in here, but no one is on the scene. and so police tried to break into the computers in order to be able to figure out how to help people find the bodies of family members, and it is a big mess and there are hundreds of people walking through the gates every few minutes. >> the sig kanls of this cemetery, the historic significance, frame that up for us. >> well, it's, you know, it used to be the only place in chicago where blacks could be buried, african-americans can be buried, and, you know, emmett till is buried here and one of the globetrotters has been buried here. and we don't think their graves have been tampered with.
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we think the people involved with this, they did this to graves that people didn't visit very often. some of the famous people, they believe their graves are intact. >> cheryl jackson, cheryl, thank you for your help on this story. we appreciate it so much. how horrible is this. we're going to take a quick break. 22 minutes after the hour.
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you know, we haven't seen airfares this low for a decade. but will the good deals, well, great deals, stick around? cnn's personal editor, gerri willis, is here with your guide to getting the cheapest ticket in town. look, a brother needs a vacation. >> brother and sister. brother and sister need a vacation. >> when i go shopping, gerri, what can we expect? >> well, here's what you need to know, tony, discount airlines rolled out lower fares just this week. airlines are gearing up for what is usually the slower fall
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travel season and some great places to look were the florida, mexico, places people don't want to go to right now. major cities, too, will be big bargains this fall. go to farecompare.com is a great place to go, you may find another round of summer fare cutting. if you see a good price, you need to book immediately, tony, that's because you just have to act quickly to get the best deals. they go away really fast. >> right. so, what are some of the new ways to score these really cheap tickets, gerri? >> well, this is interesting. okay, major airlines, jetblue, delta, they are now tweeting on twitter about special deals. >> oh, come on! >> i'm serious. and you're going to love this. listen, i think this will make you a fan of twitter. >> i'm a little reluctant, okay. >> these deals are for short-term travel, but the price sun believable. get this, nine bucks, one way to nantucket from new york. with jetblue. >> are you kids? >> nine bucks. >> nine bucks? >> yeah, jetblue is doing this every monday. they're putting up some deal. this is inventory they really
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can't get rid of, so they're marking it down, twittering about it, tweeting. right. >> so, those are -- what about fees? are fees attached to? >> wait, wait, wait. i have to tell you more about this. >> you got more? >> it's interesting. you can get real-time tweets on your cell phone so you don't have to go to the computer to get information or your blackberry from a specified airport if twitter isn't your style. you can sign up at sites like airfarewatch.com so there are all sorts of electronic ways to help you act quickly in the marketplace. >> i got a blackberry, so i'm taking one step into this brave new world here. fees, should we talk about fees? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they're not going anywhere. you're going to continue paying them. here are ways to avoid them, though, we'll help you cut your costs. go paperless, don't pay online. pay for luggage fees online. us airways charges you an extra five bucks if you pay for your checked bags at the airport. hey, don't ask for seat preferences. i want to sit next to my buddy.
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don't do that. it costs you more. what could be the wave of the future? i know you've heard of this, standing-only flights. >> i have heard of it. it isn't going to happen, is it? >> it could. >> it could? strap hangers on the planes? >> we're going to watch. and we'll -- and we'll report to you if it does. it's being considered in europe, you know, maybe you could, you know, jump the ocean and come here. we don't know, but we're going to watch for it. crazy stuff out there with those airlines. >> hey, gerri, before i let you go, give us a preview of what's coming up on yo"your bottom lin" >> be debt free, we'll tell you how to manage the credit card debt. i know it's getting harder and harder. foolproof your resume. tips and tricks to stand out from the crowd. there are secret things you should never, ever say our resume. special phrases you might want to use. we'll tell you what those are. keep them out of your resume. >> nice, gerri, appreciate it. great stuff, as always.
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well, a few days later the club refunded the camp's swimming fee without explanation. philly television station wtxf reports, the club president said members complained the kids, quote, fundamentally changed the atmosphere at the pool. he says the complaints did not involve race. new details surfacing in the shooting death of retired nfl quarterback steve mcnair. police in nashville say all the evidence points to a murder-suicide at the hands of a very distraught girlfriend. cnn's david mattingly picks up the story. >> reporter: nfl quarterback steve mcnair was behind one of the biggest moments in super bowl history, falling just a few yards short of taking the tennessee titans to victory in 2000. and nine years later, fans in nashville still loved him, knowing him to be generous and approachable in public. but in private, mcnair was taking a serious and unexpected risk. a married man with children,
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mcnair was seeing 20-year-old sahel kazemi, the pictures snapped recently by tmz. her family said the relationship had been going for more than five months and that she was confident mcnair was divorcing his wife and they would soon live together. but early saturday, that ended with this 911 call from a friend of mcnair's. >> tell me what happened. >> i have no idea, sir. >> okay. >> i received a phone call. >> uh-huh. >> that there were injured parties inside this apartment and -- >> okay. male or female? >> two. there's two people. >> reporter: that call came from this condo in a building not too far away from titan stadium. police arrived to find the couple dead. mcnair had been shot twice in the head and twice in the chest. police now say it was a clear case of murder-suicide. and that mcnair may have been asleep and did not know it was coming. police describe kazemi as a
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young woman in turmoil, reeling from financial pressures, complaining to her friends that her personal life was a mess and that she should end it. early thursday morning, she was arrested for dui. that evening, police say she bought a 9 millimeter handgun. >> we also have reason to believe that kazemi recently learned before this day that she believed mcnair was involved with another woman and that, too, participated in her state of mind, we think. >> reporter: nashville police say they shared their findings with mrs. mcnair. they did not know if she was aware of the relationship. this kind of image of mcnair saddens fans who gather at the titans home stadium where they knew him as a competitor and philanthropist. he spoke of his family at his retirement. >> it's just a blessing that now i'm fortunate to walk away in this game, you know, on my own two feet and to realize that family is very important. >> reporter: that was just 16 months ago. former nfl running back, eddie george, tells me the man who was
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murdered was not the steve mcnair that he had known since 1996. >> underneath it all, he was in search of filling a void. >> reporter: george believes his old friend was having a crisis of his own, maybe struggling with life after football. >> what people fail to realize is that you make a transition away from a game, emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually, you go through something. you change. and you're constantly searching for something. >> reporter: and in nashville, fans now search for ways to celebrate the life of a star athlete who brought them many fond memories, while mourning his scandalous death. david mattingly, cnn, nashville. one town in west georgia has suddenly developed a big interest in all things korean. it's all about saving the local economy. we've made a great product even better.
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been developing rather slowly. has it finally arrived? >> it appears to have arrived now, the national weather service and noaa saying, yes, it is here. now, you're saying, what does that mean in. >> what does that mean. >> exactly. this is a graphic representation of the sea surface temperatures in the pacific. here's mexico. here's cabo san lucas, all the way down to south america. here's hawaii. here's australia. watch this zone right in there warm up. i drew right over it. that's okay. right through here. right there. that's where it's warming up. that's the equatorial pacific that is warming up. now, why do we care? well, because when that happens it deflects the atmosphere a little bit. we'll zing that out of here. this will be january and february and march of next year, of 2010. how is it going to affect our weather? all the way through the middle part of the atlantic states, texas, tennessee, much-below normal precip. very wet. florida, very wet in the
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southwest. and the last time we had a big el nino, we had things falling down around malibu because of the rain. go ahead. >> doctor, i apologize jump in, the president of the united states is jumping in from the g-8 summit. let's listen in. >> i believe the people of italy have shown us during this stay. we are very grateful to all of you. i also want to thank the 17 other leaders that participated. we had a candid and open discussion about the growing threat of climate change and what our nations must do, both individually and collectively, to address it. and while we don't expect to solve this problem in one meeting, or one summit, i believe we've made some important strides forward as we move towards copenhagen. i don't think i have to emphasize that climate change is one of the defining challenges of our time. the science is clear and conclusive and impacts can no longer be ignored. ice sheets are melting. sea levels are rising.
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our oceans are becoming more acidic, and we've already seen its effects on weather patterns, our food and water sources, our health and our habitats. every nation on this planet is at risk, and just as no one nation is responsible for climate change, no one nation can address it alone. and that's why back in april, i convened this forum of the world's major economies who are responsible for more than three-quarters of the world's carbon pollution, and it's why we've gathered again here today. each of our nations comes to the table with different needs, different priorities, different levels of development. and developing nations have real and understandable concerns about the role they will play in these efforts. they want to make sure that they do not have to sacrifice their aspirations for development and higher living standards. yet, with most of the growth in projected emissions coming from
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these countries, their active participation is a prerequisite for a solution. we also agree that developed countries, like my own, have a historic responsibility to take the lead. we have the much larger carbon footprint per capita. and i know that in the past the united states has sometimes fallen short of meeting our responsibilities, so let me be clear, those days are over. one of my highest priorities as president is to drive a clean energy transformation of our economy. and over the past six months, the united states has taken steps towards this goal. we've made historic investments into the billions of dollars for clean energy economies, we're on track to create thousands of new jobs across america on solar initiatives and wind projects and biofuel projects, trying to show that there is no contradiction between environmentally sustainable growth and robust economic
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growth. we've also for the first time created a national policy raising our fuel-efficiency standards that will result in savings of 1.8 billion barrels of oil over the lifetime of vehicles sold in the next five years alone. and we just passed in our house of representatives the first climate change legislation that would cut carbon pollution by more than 80% by 2050. these are very significant steps in the united states. they're not as far as some countries have gone, but they are further than others. and i think that as i wrestle with these issues politically in my own country, i've come to see that it is going to be absolutely critical that all of us go beyond what's expected if we're going to achieve our goals. during the course of our three
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days in l'aquill'aquila, we've number of significant steps forward. i want to briefly highlight them. this week, the g-8 nations came to a consensus towards concrete goals to reduce carbon emissions. developed nations will reduce their emissions by 80% and we'll work with all nations to cut global emissions in half. this ambitious effort is consistent with limiting global warming to no more than two degrees celsius, which as our declaration explicitly acknowledged for the first time is what the mainstream has called for. we made further and unprecedented commitments to take strong and prompt actions. developed nations mitted to reducing their emissions in absolute terms and for the first time developed nations also acknowledged the two-degree
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celsius metric and agreed to make action to meaningfully lower their emissions in the midterm, in the next decade or so. and they agreed between now and copenhagen they will take concrete goals to reduce their emissions by 2050. we also agreed the actions we must take to reduce our emissions must be meshable and reportable and verifiable. and we agreed to establish a peak date after which global emissions will start falling. these are very significant steps forward in addressing this challen challenge. in addition we agreed to substantially increase financial resources to help developing nations create low-carbon growth plans and deploy clean energy technologies. we also recognize that climate change is already happening, and so we're going to have to help those affected countries adapt, particularly those who are least able to dole with the consequences because of a lack of resources. so, we are looking at providing significant financial assistance
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to help these countries. and i want to particularly commend president calderon of mexico and gordon brown of the united kingdom fortunately comicome coming for coming up with some creative proposals that all of us will be exploring as to how we might finance this. we've asked the g-8 climate ministers to take this up and report back us to the at g-20 meeting in t ing iing in the fa. our goal is to double the research and development investments. we need to bring these technologies to market and to achieve our long-term energy and emissions goals. a number of countries have already agreed to take lead on the developing particular technologies, including solar and smart grids, advanced vehicles, bioenergy and more. australia, for example, is creating a new center, which kevin will be introducing
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shortly, and i think points to the ability for us to pool our resources in order to see the technological breakthroughs that are going to be necessary in order fors to solve this problem. so, let me just summarize. we've made a good start. but i'm the first one to acknowledge that progress on this issue will not be easy. and i think that one of the things we're going to have to do is fight the temptation towards cynicism, to feel that the problem is so immense that somehow we cannot make significant strides. it is no small task for 17 leaders to bridge their differences on an issue like climate change. we each have our national priorities and politics to contend with, and any steps we agree to here are intended to support and not replace the main u.n. negotiations with more than 190 countries. it's even more difficult in the
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context of a global recession. which i think adds to the fears that somehow addressing this issue will contradict the possibilities of robust global economic growth. but ultimately we have a choice. we can either shape our future or we can let events shape it for us. we can fall back on the stale debates and old divisions, or we can decide to move forward and meet this challenge together. i think it's clear from our progress today which path is preferable and which path we have chosen. we know that the problems we face are made by human beings. that means it's within our capacity to solve them. the question is whether we will have the will to do so. whether we'll summon the courage and exercise the leadership to chart a new course. that's the responsibility of our generation. that must be our legacy for
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generations to come. and i am looking forward to being a strong partner in this effort. with that, let me turn it over to kevin rudd, who i think has a significant -- >> all right, there you have the president and other world leaders at the g-8 summit in l'aquila, italy. they've been tackling 9 issue of global warming and climate change. the leaders have set a 50% reduction in emissions by 2050. you may know that china and india have balked at that, they won't agree to long-term cuts until the united states agrees to deeper and bigger cuts, which is why the president spent as much time as he did talking about the steps the united states is taking right now to cut emissions. the president at the g-8 summit in italy. next stop for the president is ghana and the ghanans have been celebrating days ahead of the visit. and our anderson cooper is there
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covering for "ac360." we've heard story after story of communities trying to tough it out against a major employer like an automaker, particularly when that major employer pulls out of a city. cnn's alina cho takes us to wup fortunate town that is now thriving thanks to an automaker thanks to today's "money & main street" segment. >> reporter: in the heart of the south, the face of tiny west point, georgia, is literally changing. the old pizza hut is a korean barbecue. the old kfc, young's garden. jobs once scarce are finally returning. >> just like christmastime. just like christmas. >> reporter: christmas, in the middle of a recession? in west point, yes. >> we jokingly call it kiiaville. >> reporter: kia, the korean car company, is about to open a sprawling manufacturing plant, thanks to $400 million in tax breaks. even in the midst of a recession, the company will hire
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2,500 new workers. add suppliers and new businesses, and the mayor said west point, population 3,500, stands to gain 20,000 jobs over the next five years. divine intervention. >> the economic activity here is incredible. the trickle-down effect in the local economy has been staggering. >> reporter: remarkable for a city that was slowly becoming a ghost town. textile mills that once defined west point, shut down in the 1990s. leaving many out of work. >> i'll go in. >> reporter: including 52-year-old margaret mcmanis. laid off last year, now working again at one of kia's suppliers. did you ever think you'd be making car parts? >> no, not at all. >> reporter: not in a million years. >> no. >> reporter: new construction is everywhere, at roger's barbecue, business is booming. >> we almost think if we can get them in at one time, they'll come back. they are coming back. they enjoyed it. >> reporter: malcolm malone's car wash business is up 70%. down the street at irish bread
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pub, ruth ann williams invested her life savings in the business. it's paying off. >> i came in here because kia. i wanted to come down to this area because of kia. we have jumped in with both feet, and we have not looked back one time. >> reporter: so, how is this tiny, rural community adapting to the new asian infusion? does west point feel like more of a melting pot now >> yes. we've got the culture coming in. you know, you don't have to travel to atlanta anymore. >> reporter: from milltown to a manufacturing mecca, a bright spot in an otherwise gray economy. alina cho, cnn, atlanta. watch more of our series "money & main street" tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern, only on cnn. i've helped somebody. you know, it makes me feel pretty good.
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on the post, on the blogs. get right to it. >> news. >> action packed. >> we have been hearing from people like crazy, every which way, cnn.com/tony is the new easy way to reach the blog. let me show you a few things people are writing about health care and how to fix it and what it takes and what the big obstacles are. starting with this one from larry. getting insurance companies and health care facilities to give up just a little bit more of their bloated profits and it's done. the next one from alberto, a name we know well, one of the biggest i-reporters. the biggest obstacle is false information sent in by supporters of insurance companies along with lawmakers is you coming to lobbyists he says. and one from liz, we will all have to pay for fair health care. the only one sings the blues, she says, the ones with lots of zeros behind their paychecks. interesting. >> wow. >> we are hearing from people with lots of different views. let me show you how you can weigh in. first of all, we have the nice image showing tony's blog,
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cnn.com/tony. >> that's too much. it's a nice picture. >> you like this one. come on, we wouldn't do that to you. >> a nice picture. >> we've got the phone call, too, right? you like that? >> are we getting calls? >> always keep your anchors happy, trust me, 1-877-742-5760. we're getting lots of calls. we'll hear more tomorrow. they are coming in, a lot of people interested in health care. >> we are trying to drill down and do as much as we can and break through the distractions and the noise and try to get to the heart of the debate. i think we did a pretty good job of tapping into it today. a lot of action on capitol hill now, on the senate side, the house version was due out sometime tomorrow. so, we will continue to do that. with our entire "money" team and, of course, with our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. josh, good stuff, as always. >> thanks, tony. and tomorrow, let's get some of the phone calls on, all right? >> you got it. all right, it's time for me to g
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