that does it for this edition of 3607 anderson is on his way to africa for an exclusive interview with president obama. larry king starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, did janet jackson try to save her brother? >> michael at one time had an -- >> his doctor says he tried to help. >> he came to me with a huge tolerance level. >> could one of jackson's other physicians administered a deadly dose of drugs? >> there are certain people in this world who are not reasonable. >> janet desperately wanted to stage an intervention. the shocking details about what made her act, how michael shut her and the entire jackson family out. plus, the latest on the death investigation. m.j.'s final resting place and the explosive comments from dr. arnie klein about the pop star's

plastic surgery. >> what i wanted to do is, you know, is stop it. i felt that, you know, we were losing body parts. >> it's all next on "larry king live." >> good evening. i'm jim morey from "inside edition" sitting in for larry king tonight. we begin with breaking news and what could be criminal charges in the michael jackson case. here's what l.a. police chief william bratton told us just moments ago. >> well, the inquiry into the death of mr. jackson is continuing. we will still await corroboration from the coroner's office as to the cause of death. that is going to be very dependent on the toxicology reports that are due to come back.

and based on those, we'll have an idea of what it is that we're dealing with. are we dealing with homicide? are we dealing with an accidental overdose? what are we dealing with? so as we're standing here speaking, i can tell you we don't have that information. >> wait until the coroner's finished? you don't have to wait until the report is out, do you, to change the classification of the investigation? >> we have a very comprehensive and far-reaching investigation which has been pretty widely reported in the media that we're looking at his prescription drug history, the doctors that he's dealt with over the years. we have the cooperation of the d.e.a. and the state attorney general's office who keep those records. so those are being looked at by our personnel. we at the time offered that with search warrants. we seized a number of items from the residence in which the death occurred. and those will assist in the investigation as it moves forward. >> do you have a sense of the classification of a death investigation to a homicide,

what needs to take place? >> that would actually be the coroner's determination. he makes the determination as to the nature of the death. >> do you wait for definitive cause of death to change the investigation? >> in terms of -- we move forward in a variety of ways with our investigation which is in many respects a comprehensive set of inquiries so that no matter which way the coroner's finding would go, the multiple findings he may make, we would be in a position to not have lost time, if you will, waiting for that report. we're not mocking time waiting for his report. we're gathering based on our experience in these matters and unfortunately los angeles we have a lot of experience with death investigations. we have very good investigators. so they will be privy to what the coroner's findings may be. >> any cooperation from all the doctors? >> i will speak to the intimacies of the

investigations. that's not our policy. but we are, as has been reported in the media, speaking to and will be seeking to speak to a number of the physicians that attended mr. jackson over the years that he was being treated. >> and finally, you know, people think oh, homicide investigation. or doctors. there's a clear difference, is there not, possibly of intent and possible charges? just because the investigation is going one way, doesn't mean some physician is going to be thrown in jail. >> i'm not even going to speak to that. we'll wait to see what the coroner comes back with. and then once he comes back with his determination, we will speak in a much clearer and very open way what our course of action will be. but i'm not going to speculate at this time. we're going to wait until he comes back with findings. he has his role of responsibility and we have our role of responsibility. but the next move really is his. >> cnn's ted rowlands spoke to the chief. he joins us. cnn investigative correspondent,

drew griffin with us is in atlanta. defense attorney trent copeland also a cbs news legal analyst is here. stacy honowitz, florida assistant state attorney general. thank you all for joining us. ted, first, to the police chief's comments. what brought about this change? >> basically, he said that there isn't change. from the beginning, they have treated this basically like, as he put it, an investigation into the worst-case scenario. so they're treating it like a homicide investigation. if it turns out that's not what they needed to do, then they did the work and they won't use it. but if the coroner comes back and says this is a homicide, then they're prepared to have the information. so basically his message is, is it still a death investigation? yes. are we prepared for it to be a homicide investigation? absolutely. and we're waiting for the coroner. >> trent, i heard the chief use the word corroboration. we're looking for corroboration. doesn't that sound like it ratchets up this investigation? >> it does. and jim, as you know as an attorney, you know, the word

corroboration typically has a real meaning in court. it means, look, we're looking for something to further substantiate what we already believe may be the case. so when i hear the word corroboration, if i'm a lawyer for any one of these five or six doctors, i am really understanding that this case may be ratcheted up. i'm putting my seat belt on. if i'm one of the lawyers, one of these doctors, i'm lawyering up. so, look, the truth is i think the chief spoke very clearly. but i think he spoke very cautiously and judiciously. but the message is, if you're a defense lawyer, get ready for your phone to ring. i think doctors are going to be in need of a legal representation. >> says stacey honowitz, what's your take from florida? >> listen, we -- i think in the very beginning when this first happened we heard that there were a lot of drugs and people came out and said he was being enabled and had this, you know, all these narcotics in the house. we knew it was probably going to go this route. i think what trent said, what

the captain said, you know, it's an investigation. we're looking to see. nobody knows anything at this point. what we hear right now is a lot of speculation. because we are hearing that there were several doctors involved. we're hearing that false names were involved. maybe he got prescriptions using false names. maybe the doctors knew that he was already taking drugs and they enabled him. so it's a wait and see situation right now. they will do a thorough investigation. they are bringing in the d.e.a. they're bringing heavy hitters to try to figure out, to try to find out where this emanated from. they're looking back and they're taking in every bit of evidence that they possibly can to make a determination in the case. >> and drew griffin this is consistent with your investigative reports, isn't it? >> yeah. and, you know, i think one of the biggest things that we got out of ted's interview here is homicide or accidental overdose? we're no longer talking about natural death as far as i can glean from this interview. and, jim, you know you covered a lot of these cases in l.a. i really didn't get the sense this is ratcheting up. i get the sense that the lapd is going to have all its ducks in a row to either put this to rest

when the coroner comes out and says this was an accident or to not face any criticism if it turns out to be a homicide and they have to turn this into a criminal case. so i think -- >> ted? but it is not ratcheting up. it sounds like the chief is getting us ready to hear the words "charges" or "homicide investigation." >> yeah. absolutely. i think the fact that he said possible homicide investigation, it's on the table now, officially. you know, there's been a lot of with this story more than any of recent memory, a lot of reporting through sources, one source, two source. and some of it has quite frankly been way off base. i think what the chief did, though, is bring it back to, you know, back home to the chief of the police that's investigating this. make no mistake. they are running this investigation. the d.e.a. is helping out a little bit. and the attorney general is watching. but lapd is handling it. >> we have a lot more to come. just getting started. back with more right after this. if you're taking 8 extra-strength tylenol...

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welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry tonight. we're talking about the breaking news in the michael jackson case. trent copeland, take us through this process. we know that in the anna nicole case, and this case is compared to that already, it took about a year, perhaps a little longer, before we saw charges.

if this becomes a homicide investigation, do you expect this will be a lengthy one? >> i don't think that this case will be any different than anna nicole smith. in fact, i think it will be exponentially multiplied beyond that. look, there are a lot of records in this case apparently that the authorities would have to go through. michael jackson took a lot of prescription medications apparently. he apparently had a lot -- a large number of doctors, a lot of people who are willing to assist him. so you have to go through the databases associated with who prescribed the medication, when did they prescribe that medication? were they aware of michael jackson's medical history at the time of prescribing that medication? there are going to be a lot of things they have to look to. they'll talk to some of these people assuming any of these people are willing to talk to them and assuming some of these people have not lawyered up. those lawyers are asking them not to talk, not to reveal any personal statements associated with their relationship with michael jackson. this is going to be an exhaustive and extensive search. i think as chief bratton indicated in the report, they've already begun their investigation and i think they've hit the ground running. so i think unlike the anna nicole smith, i don't think this

will extend out as far as anna nicole smith. although i think it really has tentacles that will -- >> as far as people? >> no, i don't think it will extend in the amount of time. >> sayssy honowitz, the l.a. police chief did say, a number of physicians over years. so they're looking at a long period of time, not necessarily just those drugs that were in his system when he died, right? >> yeah, that's right. another thing, jim, you have to remember, there were others doctors who went internationally with him. there are so many records and so many tentacles in this case. and also, you know, you run into a very big problem also when you're looking back at doctors that maybe enabled him or, you know, were so excited to be in his, you know, company. so they gave him -- you know, not every drug that's given is given by prescription. he might have walked into a office, asked the doctor for something. the doctor might not have wrote a prescription. he might have had the medication in the office. so i mean there is a lot of work that's going into this and a lot of detail.

i don't know how long we're looking at. but it's substantial investigation. >> drew, what about stacy's point? what about drugs that were not necessarily prescribed but given to michael jackson? you have found anything more on that? you talk about a lot of drugs and specifically during his '96 concert tour when he was given drugs. we're talking about a long period of time and a lot of medication. >> just look at what we've heard from some of our sources. some of the drugs, medications confiscated at the house were in prescription bottles with no prescriptions on them. whose prescriptions are those? was somebody else getting the prescriptions and then giving them to michael jackson? so, i mean, it's going to have to be very kpausive to determine going back whether michael jackson was defrauding his own physicians saying i have this ailment knowing that that kind of ailment or ache would result in the kind of medicine he was craving at the time.

very difficult to prove. and the intent of the doctor, i think it will be very exhaustive, jim. >> we have 30 seconds left. i'm sorry, you wanted to make another point. >> we're talking about a lot of doctors who are probably very nervous tonight. >> right. but a tough case to prove as drew touched on. look at anna nicole smith. three people around her for years. every doctor has a built-in defense. >> and there are charges filed in that case. >> i gave him this, i had no idea he was taking. that it's going to be very difficult to prove that doctors knew that what they were giving him might have been lethal. >> trent, there are records. >> there are records. but as drew indicated, there may not be records associated with every single prescription. if i'm the defense lawyer, look, i'm looking at this case and saying this is a defensible case unless there is something very definite that connects me with that prescription. >> a lot more to talk about. we have news about neverland and michael's burial. we'll get into that in just about 60 seconds. you're watching "larry king live." mr. evans? this is janice from onstar. i have received an automatic signal you've been in a front-end crash. do you need help?

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larry last week about michael possibly be buried at neverland. listen. >> larry: california law says you have to bury in a cemetery, right? >> that's pretty much, yes, but as you know, the ones who make the law can also change them, too. i would love to see him here. >> larry: you have a place here? >> yes, there's a special place right over near the train station right over there. >> larry: that we saw before? >> yes. it's hard, larry, too point where your brother's going to be. it's tough. >> ted rowlands has the latest today on that possibility. ted, what do you make of that? do you think that -- do you think that michael jackson will be buried at neverland? >> well, here's what we found out. somebody from the jackson camp, an attorney contacted the state last thursday and inquired about how they could go about burying jackson at neverland. basically the law says you can't do it by any stretch of the imagination. in fact, the state, to bury your

grandma in your backyard, you have to fill out a two-page form, pay $400 -- >> in one sense. >> then go to the county and say it is all right if we do this burial. >> and that's the tricky part. santa barbara county has never done it before. >> ever. they don't know -- they don't have a template. so what they're doing is waiting to see if, indeed, the jacksons do decide. it sounds like there isn't a decision, obviously. >> we don't know if there is a split within the family? >> right. >> as far as santa barbara county is concerned, they haven't heard from him. they'll deal with it after they get an application. clearly, they indicated, if they come to us, it could happen. >> so like the rest of the story, everything is still a mystery. it's up in the air. >> yeah. >> okay. there's more. did janet jackson stage an intervention to help her brother michael? we'll get to that right after the break.

we're talking to miko brando, friend and longtime employee of michael jackson. michael was best man at his wedding and godfather to his daughter. ted rowlands, a cnn correspondent, is back with us. as is drew griffin, cnn investigative correspondent. carlos diaz is here and a psychiatrist and addiction expert.

thank you for joining us. we're talking about the latest developments in the michael jackson case. first let's go to drew griffin. drew, you have information about janet jackson trying to stage an intervention on her brother. what do you know about that? >> we heard about this before, rumored to be an intervention from the family. but two sources have now come forward. sources pretty close to this family. that say in 2007, early 2007, janet visited michael jackson at a home he was renting in las vegas. a home nearly baron of furniture, jim, and creepy looking according to one of our sources. janet was really frightened when she saw her brother. she hadn't seen him. he had been living in behran. she was so frightened by this, she came back to her brothers in february. they were in las vegas for the nba all-star weekend. and they tried to stage an intervention. go to michael jackson and try to get him to at least accept some counseling for drugs. and jackson ordered his security to stop them at the gate. he wouldn't even see them.

>> miko, when you hear this, 2007, you were friends with michael jackson then. >> correct. >> when you hear the words creepy looking, thin, and dishevelled, do any of these words ring true to you? >> no. michael has always been thin. i mean better than overweight. he gained a little bit of weight. he lost a lot of weight. he went up and down. so it wasn't -- he always looked the same. there wasn't anything different that would stand out. >> how you would describe michael's relationship with janet? >> close. brother and sister. >> were you aware of any intervention? >> i heard about it. i wasn't there. but i heard about it. >> so this sounds correct to you? >> i heard about it. i wasn't there. >> are you aware of any other interventions? >> no. >> just the one? >> pretty sure, yeah. >> dr. reid, when you talk about staging an intervention, michael jackson has been known to surround himself with people who want to agree with him. and if you don't, or try to tell him something he doesn't want to hear, you're pushed out.

that's common with an intervention, right? >> most interventions, there's a lot of prepwork for interventions. i mean first off, you are always thinking like five steps ahead. because the biggest factor with intervention is overcoming denial. so you get all these people that care about the individual, love the individual, comes from a loving place. you get people that are impactful in their lives. somebody meaningful and somebody they're going to respect. usually it's family members and maybe work colleagues. and the goal is we have to have a place picked out. we know exactly where we're going to go. here is how we're going to overcome the denial. it's like a quarterback in a football game. >> but you're hearing drew talk about michael calling his security in to kick everyone out. he's paying the security. what do you do? >> here comes the problem. when you're treating someone who's not a celebrity, you don't have this whole, you know, i call them the enabling entourage, right? the team of people that are basing their careers off of the celebrity. in this case, you have to get by that. now, the only person who can

really do that is family members, if somebody's going to listen to them, or the individual, themselves. sometimes what can you do is can you do an intervention based on a mental health issue, like somebody doesn't have capacity to actually take care of themselves. and can you do it that way. or you can send somebody to a hospital where they're going to be evaluated potentially in an e.r. or up to 72 hours to see if they have a legitimate problem. >> i'm going to listen to something right now. michael's longtime dermatologist, dr. arnie klein was a guest on "larry king live" last night. michael was treated for an addiction years ago. let's listen to that clip now. >> larry: did michael have an addiction you were aware of? >> michael at one time had an addiction. he went to england and he withdrew the addiction in a security setting where went off of drugs altogether. and what i told michael when i met him in his present situation where i was seeing him, i had to keep reducing the dosage of what he was on. because he came to me with a

huge tolerance level. >> miko, talk about -- he was treated. were you -- you knew him at that time as well. yes? >> correct. >> and after he came out of the treatment, did you notice a difference in him for a long period of time? and then did you sense that he was getting back into drugs? >> no. not at all. >> so you noticed no changes whatsoever? >> no. i mean, he was a better person. i mean, you know? no, not drastic. >> dr. reef, when you go through treatment and then -- what are you, generally one addiction to another because now we're talking about the potential of addiction to an anesthesia which is very different from an opiate, isn't it? >> yeah. typically in the rehab world i see opium and prescription pills, narcotics and illicit drugs like heroin or tim hasn'ts like aderol and writ lynn, that

group. then benzos, hypnotics. here we're looking at a general anesthesia drug that is used in an o.r. and is used by anesthesiologists. it's not supposed to be taken at home. so that is question mark number one. why is this drug at home? it's not known to be abuse liability. because it is so rare to ever find someone addicted to it. i mean, this seems almost like improper use at some point by either an individual, themselves, or by a doc who's kind of running the show. it's not supposed to be there. that's the bottom line. >> we're going to talk about this some more. more after this.

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we're back with breaking news in the michael jackson case. miko brando, ted rowlands, drew griffin, helping us sort this all out. the big news from larry's interview dr. klein last night focused on michael and the drug diprivan. listen. >> larry: did michael tell you he used diprivan? >> i knew at one point he was using diprivan when he was on tour in germany. and so he was using it with an anesthesiologist to go to sleep at night. i told him he was absolutely insane. i said you have to understand that this drug you can't repeatedly take. what happens with narcotics, no matter what you do, you build a tolerance to them. >> larry: are you surprised diprivan was found in his home, supposedly? >> i am very shocked by it. i have to tell you that it's not something that would be unheard of. because i told him that this drug was very dangerous to use. >> larry: what did he say when you told him? >> he listened to me. >> drew griffin, very quickly.

diprivan, you're reporting, was found in michael jackson's home, correct? >> that's right. and the nurse practitioner as you remember was saying in april, he was asking for that by name. he was basically saying i will pay any amount of money to a doctor who will get me diprivan. this is what he's saying to cherilynn lee and describing just how easily that medication, he thought, put him to sleep. we know now that it was really a narcotic coma that it puts you in. >> dr. reef, do you rest with diprivan? no? >> not really. it's a central nerve system -- it just shuts down the system. it's got such a short house life. it brings you right back. >> if you know the doctor prescribing diprivan to a patient, what do you do? >> diprivan is a very common anesthetic in a hospital. >> not at home, though. >> but if you're at home, the first question is, why? that really is -- it sounds so simple. but it's really a legit question. why? what purpose you could possibly have to put someone under in a home?

i mean you better have an oxygen tank there. you better know the airway, what's happening with their airway. you better know -- you have to have precaution there's. >> and carlos? >> that's a great point. because, i mean, you just said it yourself in the best way possible. diprivan is not one of these drugs where it is a bottle over the counter thing. you have to have oxygen tanks and anesthesiologist there to administer it. >> but drew reported on tour there was a miniclinic. >> exactly. see, that's the point. as the police begin to look into this, you're not just looking for oxycontin or something that is readily available. diprivan is something that's so rare that it's going to be almost easier to trace because it's not ever administered in that way. >> miko, did you ever see ivs or any medical equipment at michael's home? >> never. >> were you ever aware that he was using anything to go to sleep? did he ever talk to you about insome knee ya? >> no.

>> we heard one doctor describe this tour in '96 where he would bring him down at night and bring him up. did you ever have any discussions, any notice -- ever notice anything? >> no. i wasn't with him all the time. i was working on the tour. >> so you were on that tour? >> yeah. >> and were you there with dr. ratner, the doctor with him, an anesthesiologist? >> no. >> no. did you see any -- >> i mean, i was working on the other side of the tour. i wasn't with him all the time. >> dr. reef, how likely is it that this could have been kept a secret for years? >> the diprivan, itself? >> yes. or using diprivan. you need more than -- you don't administer it to yourself. >> here's the thing, if you've got an entire entourage of people that are all supporting you and are yesmen to you, it could go undetected for years. it happens with, i mean there are lots of celebrities that have yes people around them are doing things and taking pills that other people don't know. >> larry pressed dr. klein for

more information about this very same subject. let's listen. >> larry: did you ever see any iv-type equipment in his house? >> never. >> larry: did you ever see diprivan in his home? did you ever see it anywhere? >> no. i never did. and i also told him specifically the dangers of the diprivan, the dangers of using it by someone who's not an anesthesiologist. >> larry: did he have an insomnia problem? >> not that i knew of. except once we went on tour. he was in hawaii. he couldn't get to sleep. so me and my whole office went to sleep in the room with him. so i never knew that he had a problem with sleep until this whole tour came up or basically this problem with sleep at that time. i did know that he did certainly, you knows, local anz these ya. this is not something we discussed repeatedly. i just got shocked. he assured me he stopped. >> ted, we've heard throughout this case that there was some people around michael jackson that were concerned about him. for a long time. you're hearing this as well,

members of his own family who were worried that if they didn't step in as janet tried to do, something would happen. >> yeah. but as the doctor said earlier, you're talking about somebody who potentially was an addict. arnie klein said he tried to help and michael did get help. i don't think michael jackson has reacted any differently than any other addict out there. and people have interventions with their sons and daughters and husbands and wives for years. and what this case is doing though is bringing the prescription medication problem to light again for national debate. and that could be the one silver lining here. >> we have to take a break. we'll update you on breaking news in the jackson case next. you're watching "larry king live". ed by a completely blocked artery, another heart attack could be lurking, waiting to strike. a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix, taken with other heart medicines goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone to provide greater protection against heart attack or stroke and even death by helping to keep blood platelets from sticking together and forming clots. ask your doctor about plavix,

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>> larry: now, there are reports, doctor, that his body was riddled with -- we want to get this right -- with evidence when he died. did he see any evidence of needle marks? >> i didn't examine his entire body. >> larry: did you see any on prior exams? >> no. i never saw them that i could tell you. i didn't see a riddling of anything. people made it sound like there were holes in him. there weren't anything like that. >> larry: reports he was emaciated. >> he wasn't emaciated. i know dancers. i work with them many times. they're very concerned about their weight. and so i knew that he always wanted to be thin. and i talked to him about eating enough and making sure he didn't overexercise. because some dancers in order to remain thin will over-dance in order to keep their weight down. >> miko brando, when you hear

dr. klein talking about this and you hear about reports of being riddled with needle marks and you hear the word addict associated with your friend -- >> it hurts me. it's ridiculous. we're talking about michael. he's not here to defend himself. we're speculating. >> we're not condemning him. we're trying -- >> but we're talking about it. >> because he's passed away. >> right. >> and doctors -- we're trying to figure out why. he was 50 years old, supposedly perfect health. clearly not. >> once the report comes out, it will answer all these questions regarding michael. for now, we're just speculating. >> dr. reef, there are some things, though, that you can say based an what you've heard. there are some telltale signs, red flags, aren't there? >> it's all based on, you know, stuff that -- comments that people have made. i don't know for a fact. because i don't treat him. but if you look at a history of prescription pills, multiple prescription pills, different

types of pills, diprivan in the house, a cardiac arrest, i mean all of those lead to -- there was some kind of problem there involving prescription pills. and, you know, if you look at the data between 1999 and 2004, prescription pills fatal overdoses have doubled. 6 million people or more are abusing prescription pills in this country. i mean, it's not -- this is a big deal. >> larry also pressed dr. klein on another issue, the paternity issue. klein refused to rule out that he might be the father of jackson's two oldest children as some reports suggest. >> larry: earlier today you said you couldn't answer that one way or the other. >> i still can't answer it absolutely one way or the other. >> larry: that means you donated sperm? >> i once donated sperm. i don't know. you have to know -- >> larry: did you donate it to him? >> no, absolutely not. >> larry: or you donated sperm? >> i donated sperm for a sperm

bank. i don't think i should go over my legal past. i think to the best of my knowledge, i'm not the father. i want to tell you this discussion, however, is between michael's children and his person. it's not to be discussed who the father is over national television. >> larry: or it's nobody's business, except he's become the public's business? isn't that a fact of life? >> let me tell you something. there is something called private lives. can't we leave this alone? can't we leave these children alone? these are brilliant, talented children. and forget this. understand, this man loved these children. these children loved him. >> larry: you don't feel you have to take a dna test to prove anything? >> if they want a dna test, they can have my dna. i don't care at this point. >> carlos diaz, your show "extra" posed an interesting question today about who could be the father of the youngest child, blanket. you posed the possibility that miko could be the father. miko, you're laughing. are you the father of blanket?

>> no, absolutely not. >> do you know who the father is? do you believe michael is the father? do you know who the marriage is? >> no. >> you're laughing. >> this is a joke. >> why? paternity is an issue, ted. we know in california the reality is that from a legal perspective it doesn't matter. because michael jackson is the presumed father. >> i think the one thing about this whole case is the ridiculousness of it because of who michael jackson was. you know, one thing we saw at that memorial is these kids loved michael jackson. and he was their father. >> you think he was a loved dad? >> that has nothing to do with it. and it's not going to be part of this investigation. that's the other side. he is riddled with the track marks. riddled. would you ever use that term? no. but when it comes to michael jarks, he's riddled with them. that's the sad part of this whole thing. >> these kids lost their dad.

that's their dad and that's it. that's their dad. >> we interviewed on "extra" we interviewed carry fisher. who spent christmas with the jackson family. she said undeniably that michael jackson was an amazing father to the kids. they were very well behaved and they weren't raised by nannies. they were raised by michael jackson and all the speculation that's out there, michael jackson was their father, not only a father figure but a true father to these kids. >> that's all we're trying to do. we're trying to separate fact from fiction. we'll be back from more. let's wrap up a major development in the michael jackson case tonight. the l.a. police chief confirms that jackson's doctors are being investigated and that criminal charges could result from the police probe. also, the jackson family is aware of these developments. in addition, doctors not cooperating were issued subpoenas. we're back in 60 seconds. where will you find the stability and resources to keep you ahead of this rapidly evolving world? these are tough questions. that's why we brought together two of the most

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one of the most serious health challenges facing america's yoouts. obesity. here's larry with a woman who wants to change the world and is doing something about it. >> larry: what made you start this, pamela? >> larry, i started the program in 2004 after losing my own brother to complications of obesity and diabetes. i wanted to do something to lift that burden from children and other families so they wouldn't have to suffer like my family did. we started as a pilot program where we converted a vacant classroom in a middle school and tried the pilot program where we worked with a cafeteria manager. we got the vending machine companies to at least go 50/50 on the healthy-unhealthy items. the biggest thing is converting that vacant classroom in into a health club. they had no safe place to go. they didn't have access to ymca

or health clubs in town. >> larry: you are seeing results? >> we're seeing a lot of results. the kids have their own personal trainers. they have nutritionists that work with them. they're exposed to a lot of different programs such as martial arts classes. they do hip hop dance. they have aerobics. walking clubs. pedometers are a big thing. we challenge them to get at least 10,000 steps a day. so it's going really, really well. >> larry: obesity is one of the leading causes of preventable death in this country. an estimated 129 million americans might be overweight or obese. we salute you pamela, keep on keeping on. >> we'll be back with more on the michael jackson investigation right after this. stay with us.

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let's go to one of my favorite anchors on cnn, erica hill to see what's happening on ac 360. >> nice to see you there tonight. just ahead on the show, the latest into the investigation into michael jackson's death. we're going to continue talking about this, about that new shocking information coming out about jackson's suspected drug use. also, some new information on how he allegedly got those drugs. we'll bring you the latest. plus american polygamist living in mexico gunned down by mexican drug cartels. what were they doing in mexico? why were they targeted? we'll bring you the latest. an exclusive report on you tonight for the fight for afghanistan. the pakistani military putting its cease-fire option on the table. but would the u.s. actually work with the taliban? michael wehr will join us live with a 360 exclusive. those stories and a look at the jackson family up close, that's ahead on "360" tonight. jim, great to see you. >> thanks, good to see you, too. erica hill sitting in for "ac 360" tonight.

following us. larry last night spoke to dr. klein about many situations with michael jackson. specifically his skin condition. visit lie go. >> larry: how bad was his? >> his was bad. he began to get a speckled look on his body. >> larry: all over his body? >> all over his body, on his face, significantly on his hands which were very difficult to treat. >> larry: let's clear up something. he was not someone desirous of being white? >> no. michael was black. he was very proud of his black heritage. he changed the world for black people. >> larry: how do you treat vitilogo? >> certain treatments. one choice where you can you ultraviolet light treatment to make the white spots turn dark. his became so severe the easier way is to use certain creams to make the dark spots turn light. >> larry: your decision there was he would go light? >> well, that's ultimately what the decision had to be. there was too much vitiligo to

deal with? >> larry: otherwise he would look ridiculous? >> he would have to wear heavy, heavy makeup on stage. look ridiculous. couldn't go out in public without looking terribly peculiar. >> brando, he was a friend of yours. >> you just heard dr. klein. that's exactly the truth. >> was it something that bothered and disturbed michael jackson? was he concerned about what people thought of him? >> he had a disease. he got treated. that's it. >> what do you think is most misunderstood about michael? what do you want to set the record straight on? >> just a wonderful, honest, nice friend. always there when you needed him. and he just -- his charm. his whit. his sense of humor. i mean, just a good guy. i mean -- let's start talking about the positive of michael. not the negative. >> dr. reef, you think something positive can come out of even discussing the potential drug abuse because there are millions of people in this country that are battling the same addiction.

>> yeah, there is some good that can come out of this. if we can highlight the prescription pill dependence epidemic in this country and regulate that better and inform people and educate people about how you have to be your own consumer, man, you have to know exactly what you take in your body. if you can't do it or are altered in some capacity, have somebody else checking you out to see what else you're putting in there. you're your own consumer. doctors, i believe, there are many, many good doctors in this country. there are some that really need to be educated, if not reprimanded in some ways based on the amount of prescription bills that they're willing to prescribe and what kinds. >> more of larry king live coming up. stay with us. triglycerides are still out of line? then you may not be seeing the whole picture. ask your doctor about trilipix. statin to lower bad cholesterol, along with diet, adding trilipix can lower fatty triglycerides

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welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret of "inside edition" filling in for larry. do you have thoughts on the michael jackson death investigation? logon to cnn.com/larryking and let your voice be heard. while you're there check out miko's thoughts on what michael jackson's legacy will be. miko, what do you think people should remember about your friend, michael jackson, beyond the music? >> just what a wonderful human being he was. i mean, he was just -- i met a lot of people in my life, and i've never met anybody like him. he was an awesome human being. really, i miss him very dearly. >> we appreciate having you on here. we know you have a personal perspective. we're not here to beat up your friend. there is an investigation that's ongoing. >> i understand. let's wait and we'll talk about it once the official -- >> trent copeland, walk us through what you expect next in this investigation. we've heard an intimation by the

l.a. police chief that it's a possibility -- i think his word was corroboration, that criminal charges may follow in this case. what do you do as a defense attorney, representing a doctor, what do you tell that doctor? >> first thing i will tell that dongter is, look, i want to know what your connection was with michael jackson. and i want to know the extent of that relationship, whether or not you prescribed medications to michael jackson and if i feel there's some exposure, that is to say i feel like my client may be at jeopardy in terms of potentially having some criminal liability here, i may make the decision that i don't want my client to further cooperate. >> you wrote recently that you thought homicide charges could be brought in this case. you think it could rise to the level of a homicide? >> i do. look, i think that's a stretch, but i think it could very well happen if certain links in this chain are connected, that is to find that there were certain medications prescribed to michael jackson, they were overprescribed, that the doctor, he or she, may have known his

pre-existing condition was and notwithstanding that for money, for the purpose of having a relationship with michael jackson. he continued to provide that medication. if that's corroborated, those are the chief's words, if that's corroborated with what's found in those toxicology reports, then we might very well have a situation where one or more doctors are charged with negligent homicide. >> stacy honowitz joining us again, florida assistant state attorney. you think homicide charges could be filed? do you agree? >> i agree 100% with what he said. there has to be a thorough, thorough investigation. the problem we might have is there might not be complete records. if doctors were giving him drugs and not writing prescriptions, there's not records of it. what's important in this case is not only are you investigating and looking at the trail of the doctors but you're looking at the people that surrounded him. you have to remember in the anna nicole smith case howard k. stern wasn't a physician but he was charged for enabling, for obtaining those prescriptions by fraud. in this case not only could you maybe have a negligent homicide

but you could also have a lot of the enablers helping him around this case being charged with maybe obtaining those drugs for him. it's a wait and see. when the toxicology report comes be, we'll be more clear-minded on it. >> carlos diaz we're looking now, next monday, at a custody hearing. so there's even another element. >> there's three things. there are three elements we need to look at. the first thing is where he's buried? where is he going to be put in the ground? the second thing is the custody. will debbie rowe fight for custody? the third thing is what actually killed michael jackson? those are the three main things we're looking at in this case. >> miko, where do you want these kids to go? where would they be best served? the judge is going to look at what's in the best interests of the kids. >> exactly, the best interests of the kids. right now they're in good hands with his mother. >> with katherine jackson? >> with michael's mother. >> do you think debbie rowe is going to fight for custody? >> i have no idea. >> do you know debbie rowe very well? >> very well.

>> what's your sense of her -- has she tried to give up the interest in these kids and was later overturned? do you think she's going to fight for these kids? >> i have no idea. again, we're just speculating. again, only she knows. >> miko is right, this is pure speculation. the reality is there's a custody battle, and it may not take place in front of the cameras. it may be the parties behind the scenes reconcile this. if debbie rowe is looking for custody for these children and looking for ammunition, she'll point to the age of katherine jackson and the fact that katherine jackson, herself, may not be in the best -- >> isn't it a factor, though, because it's known at debbie rowe is not the mother of blanket, the youngest, if you're in favor of debbie rowe getting these kids, you're in essence in favor of debbie rowe splitting up three kids. >> that's exactly right. that's a point that has to be made, because the courts look to the best interests of the kids and whether or not there's continuity in a family, and the courts -- >> cly