thank you. we repeat our interview tomorrow with dr. arnold kline and saturday with the memorial show. anderson cooper is on assignment in africa. erica hill is sitting in for him. >> larry, thanks. anderson is in ghana where as soon as air force one touches down president obama made history. he has been to africa before, but not as president. unlike any president part of his heritage is on this continent, specifically in kenya. >> i have family members who live in villages -- they themselves are not going hungry, but li in villages where hunger is real so this is something that i understand in very personal terms and if you talk to people on the ground in africa, certainly in kenya, they

will say that part of the issue here is the institutions aren't working for ordinary people. >> mr. obama speaking there in rome ending his g-8 summit with a papal audience at the vatican. giving a letter to the pontiff to pray for the ailing ted kennedy. anderson, you are where the president is headed tomorrow and as i imagine a lot of excitement waiting for him as well. >> yeah. to say the least. people are incredibly excited. people have posters and t-shirts with the president of ghana and president obama. are they going to get to see him there is a lot of joy that the president chose ghana to come. he has family in kenya. he could have chosen to go there as he has three times before becoming president.

he chose this country because the administration believes ghana is a thriving democracy. they have had successful elections, economic roads and have been able to battle corruption the way many other african governments have not. they see this as a relatively successful model and one they want to praise and hold up as an example tor the rest of africa. >> parts of ghana are part of america's dark past, cape coast castle. i know you are headed there tomorrow. >> i spent part of friday there as well. the president will be going to one of these castles with his wife and kids. what is significant about these fortresses is parts of them are dungeons where hundreds of thousands, more than a million slaves, africans who were enslaved were held before being shipped to the new world, to america, to theest indys and i

went there today. the president will be there tomorrow. it is a sobering visit for anybody who goes there. there are many african-americans who come back and make that return. we spoke to within of them today and we will have that later in the program. it is a chilling place to stand in one of these dungeons where hundreds of africans who were enslaved were held, many suffocated to death, many brutalized, killed. a truly sobering experience. >> we'll check with you later for that anderson, thanks. breaking news tonight there is a new voice in the michael jackson story. 180 degrees different kwlaming that jackson was physically fit enough or mentally ready for the grueling series of 50 comeback concerts. this musical memorial happening

in gary, indiana. father joe jackson attending and a custody hearing postponed for a second time. the fascinating new development center on michael jackson's physical condition. was he, as some say, fit, free of needle marks, happy? or was he as randy kay has within uncovering, a mess? she has more for us tonight. >> reporter: if michael jackson had lived to begin his upcoming shows this man says he likely would not have finished them. >> i knew he wasn't ready to handle them. it was something he could not do. >> reporter: leonard rowe knew michael jackson for 30 years. jackson hired him to handle the finances for his final tour but one look at him and rowe had doubts. >> the reason i thought he couldn't handle it was easy. first of all, i saw the shape he was in physically, michael

weighed 110, 115 pounds. he was 5'10". >> reporter: he said jackson didn't want to work that hard. the singer told him he agrees to do ten shows but the promoter sold out 50. rowe says he asked aeg to cut back. >> i suggested to him we do two shows a week but when i went to aeg randy phillips and spoke to him on the phone first, he told me basically to shove off. he didn't want to talk about it. >> reporter: phillips denies they ever talked. aeg told cnn jackson passed a five-hour medical exam and told "360" last week -- >> all i know is the michael jackson that hugged me and said good night was a healthy, vibrant many human being. >> when i people saying that

michael was in great shape and raring to go, i know this is untrue. michael was not in good physical shape and michael was not raring to go. >> reporter: in response to allegations that aeg refused to make jackson's schedule earlier, he said jackson agreed to 50 shows. rowe thinks he was weakened by his addiction to prescription drugs. >> it was common knowledge to know that michael was addicted to prescription drugs. you don't have to be an m.d. to know he was not in good physical shape. i knew when i looked at him and told him. he was underweight tremendously. he said he doesn't have an appetite. >> reporter: rowe says he last saw jackson three weeks before his death at his home. he said jackson was in his

pajamas looking frail and thin. rowe spoke to family members about getting him help includes his father, joe, and his brother, randy. they agreed to get jackson into rehabilitation. they never had the chance. he died before they could make a move. whenever rowe saw jackson he said the singer wore long sleeves, his arms covered in track marks suggesting heavy iv use. that did not surprise rowe. what did surprise him is those around him on a daily basis didn't do more to help him. we reached out to the jackson family about what rowe told us. the family's representative told us there would be no comment tonight. >> no surprise there, randy. we got word late today that the custody hearing scheduled for monday is postponed a second time at the request of katherine and debbie rowe.

any more insight whether debbie rowe, jackson's ex-wife is planning to seek custody? >> we have a little information. i spoke to a friend of debbie rowe's and he said he fully expects debbie rowe to go for custody. joe jackson is talking about helping raise the children is a problem for her since michael jackson had a terrible relationship with his father. this friend told me that debbie rowe said and i'm quoting here, he said this about her, she is not just going to lay down and roll over, he said. maybe they are trying to come to an agreement out of court and the public kwli and that is why the hearing is delayed. we'll have to wait and see if this gets ugly. >> randy kay, we'll check with you. weigh in on the live chat ac360.com.

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as you well know by now there is little that is ordinary about the michael jackson story including the custody hearing that is postponed late today for a second time. jackson's children are with his mother katherine. she has temporary court appointed guardianship and the eldest is exclude in the will and thought to be out of the picture. when the hearing does happen, monday july 20th, will rowe be there? and what about a system that normally places a premium on a biological parent when it comes to custody? how will that figure in in this case. we are digging deeper on that. jim moret is chief correspondent with "inside edition." he is also an attorney.

>> good to be here. >> what do you think is happening behind the scenes? could they be working something out? >> it indicates the two sides are talking. one of the attorneys for katherine jackson said as much. that is a good thing. the best interest of the children would be served if this could be worked out outside of the public eye without a protracted battle. >> katherine jackson filed for sole custody. michael jackson named her, didn't name his father, joe jackson. he was asked by abc who should raise michael jackson's children. take a listen to his response. >> katherine and i. yes. there's no one else to do what we could do for them. keep them all together and make them happy. >> jim, it is not clear that katherine and joe actually live together at this point and

frankly there are questions about what joe did for his own children. is he hurting katherine jackson's case? >> he is not helping. i wonder why he is speaking out. he has said such strange things at the b.e.t. awards the day after he was hawking his own record label. katherine jackson filed for guardianship alone not with joe jackson who lives in las vegas who does not live with katherine jackson in encino. in the will michael jackson made it clear he wants katherine jackson alone. there are many allegations that michael jackson made about being physically and mentally abused. debbie rowe said to a local reporter in los angeles she wanted to go for custody and seek a restraining order against joe jackson to keep him away from her children. joe jackson saying he wants to be involved is not a good thing for katherine jackson.

>> we heard randy kay spoke with a friend of debbie rowe's who says she is not going to roll over. what are her chances. >> there is a presumption for the biological parent? >> even though they have had no relationship? >> she has tried to give away custody, give up her parental rights. yes. there is still a presumption. however, the judge is going to look at a lot of things. don't forget she only has rights with respect to two children. there are three children. you don't want to split up the family. you want to look at what is in their best interest. they have a relationship with katherine, cousins, aunts and uncles. that will be taken into consideration as well as listening to the kids. debbie rowe has a legal interest in two children. it is not a clear cut case or

easy case. hopefully there will be a resolution outside of court. >> best for the children. real quickly, how would debbie rowe's comments from the past figure in? she has said things about having children. i did it for him to become a father not for me to become a mother. she said when asked what would happen with the kids should michael die "i'm sure he has a wonderful person in mind to take care of them." could that come back and haunt them? >> you could say she sold them for $8.5 million. she is the biological mother and could position herself saying michael is a great father. he is gone. i want to step into their lives. >> i want to turn over to the investigation into michael jackson's death. the lapd hasn't ruled out homicide. his father saying he suspects foul play. knowing what we know and what we

learned about doctor shopping, all of these different prescription drugs which have been mentioned, how hard could hd or foul play be to prove? >> look at the anna nicole case. it is a clear parallel. you have doctors who allegedly overprescribed or abused or used aliases. they are looking at a long period of time. the lapd police chief said they are looking for the coroner's report to corroborate the cause of death, corroborate which clearly implies they have a strong belief that something was involved that is clearly drug abuse. >> jim, good to have you with us. we are going to return to anderson in ghana, a look inside the sobering slave castle where president obama will be visiting tomorrow. it is literally the point of no return for slaves on their way to the new world. also ahead tonight, a thriller of a memorial for

michael jackson, away from the sparkle in his hometown gary, indiana, that and more as "360" continues.

coming up "360" m.d. sanjay gupta teaming up with erin brockovich to cover america's largest environment disaster. it happened just months ago. the victims are suffering and you may not know. randy kay joins us with the "360" bulletin. >> an iranian american has been arrested in tehran.

sources close to the family say security forces took him into custody, ransacked his home and took his computer. he was briefly in prison two years ago. it is unclear why he was arrested this time. one analyst tells cnn this could be an effort to drag washington into tehran's post election turmoil. michael ware's exclusive report on how pakistan's military is offing to broke a cease fire in pakistan. suggesting the u.s. sit down with the taliban leader. in return pakistan wants america's help reining in india. what is the u.s. response? michael spoke to the u.s. envoy to afghanistan, richard holbrooke. >> let me be very clear. i'm not going to rule out or rule in anything on a

hypothetical basis and not get drawn into speculation on an issue this complicated. i want to underscore existing policy addressed by everybody in the u.s. government from the president on down. there is room in afghanistan for taliban people who have fought with the taliban, willing to disassociate and renounce al qaeda and lay down their arms. >> in new york, part of bernard madoff's old office is up for lease. fbi agents investigating the massive ponzi scheme are still looking at records on one floor until next summer. madoff is serving 150 years in prison for the scam that wiped out thousands of investors. >> interesting to see who takes on that office space. >> you think maybe they would

get a deal. >> the current real estate climate and there may have been some shady stuff going on there. erin brockovich, protecting families in fear. taking us to a community where the people are choking on ash. now they are trying to get some answers on what some consider a catastrophe in the making. >> the thing that blew my mind is there was a lake there. it's gone. i kept saying where's the lake? it's gone. it is mud. it looks like a moonscape. >> joe jackson, the new interview, speaking out about the custody case and why he and his wife katherine should raise michael jackson's children.

ever since julia roberts portrayed hir on film erin brockovich has become a star in her own right, activist and crusader for truth. she is teaming with with dr. sanjay gupta for a story you need to know about. the worst environmental disaster in u.s. history and it is actually happening right now. it is not off the shores of los angeles, but in tennessee. this massive toxic threat could be spreading. here is san yea's report. >> reporter: desperation is

mounting here ever since the disaster six months ago. families are terrified about their health and they fear no one is listening. >> death. cancer. everyone here deserves a future, you know. >> reporter: three days before christmas a barrier broke and a torrent of toxic sludge spilled across 300 acres in eastern tennessee. i went to see for myself. before arriving to the spill site a hitch. >> we're a little stuck at the moment. >> what has happened with the coal ash it has taken this body of water that used to be 25 feet deem and is inches deep. the motor gets stuck and we are trying to get a tow. here is what we do know for the united states, this is the largest environmental disaster ever. >> valdez was about 11 million

gallons. >> 11 million gallons of oil spilled with the exxon valdeez. here in tennessee, 1.1 billion gallons spilled, almost 100 times larger and yet families here believe no one responsible for protecting them takes their fears seriously. >> i know darn well it is hazardous. if any of those people lived here they would be totally freaking out. >> reporter: community members blame the tennessee valley authority, they brought in erin brockovich to help. she successfully sued a big utility in california in the 1990s. >> the thing that blew my mind is there was a lake there. it's gone. i kept saying where's the lake? it is gone. it is mud. it looks like a moonscape. it looks like mars. >> reporter: the tennessee valley authority burns tons of coal every day to produce power.

that produces ash. there is no safe way to dispose of it so the tva mixes it with water and stores it in vast retention ponds that are not supposed to break. >> tva maintains we did daily inspections and quarterly inspections and constant monitoring. this was not expected at all. >> reporter: but keeping them honest, we found inspection reports that detail "visible evidence of water seeping out of the coal dam and small blowouts for years before this spill." engineering and geology experts say all the signs for eminent danger were there. we made our way here by boat. i'm about to show you the largest industrial spill in u.s. history. take a look over here. this is coal ash. what is remarkable to us when you talk to the tennessee valley authority and the epa, they have tested the water and air and say

it is safe. as we investigated and talked to the citizens, we are hearing a different store, bloody noses, asthma, head aches. people say they are choking on ash. the hamptons live less than a mile away. here is what they see. >> a daughter constantly complaining of headaches. joshua is having upper respiratory situations, noah, drainage out of the eye, not, chronic cough. he was having ear infections and they were so bad the doctor said they looked like grapes in his ears. he never had this before. never. >> reporter: after the spill a duke university study found high levels of toxic elements and radio activity, toxins in the atmosphere and contamination of surface waters. a georgian scientist.

>> we have seen some fish where the gills are completely coated in sediment. it makes it difficult to breathe. it is like suffocating. >> reporter: coal ash that contains lead, ash and selenium and it is not hazardous. >> it is ekwif atlanta to garbage. by the end of the year, we will make that regulatory determination as to whether or not it is hazardous. >> reporter: at issue, what is safe? >> all of the air samples meet national standards, the water, the raw water and intake water meet the state and federal standards for drinking water. >> we have to convince someone that inhaling cancer-causing chemicals is bad for you. this doesn't make any sense at all. >> reporter: the tva advises

families to see their doctors and soon clinics will be set up to test blood for potential toxins. the hamptons can't afford to move. >> i have no confidence in what they are saying. absolutely none. i can't believe anything they say. because to me it is a lie. >> reporter: erin brockovich echos the fears of people here. >> somebody has to protect these people because they are going to find out ten years too late, the oh, oop moment. i do have cancer. i am sick and then there will be no recourse for them. that's not fair and that's not right. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, kingston, tennessee. >> last month a consultant found several reasons why the pond collapses, the height of the pile, the water content of the ash. the tennessee valley authority accepted the report t. federal

government released a list of 44 coal ash dumps across the country classified as high hazard. erin brockovich has more to tell you. you can read more at ac360.com. just ahead, anderson live in ghana. we will have a preview of his day tomorrow with president obama in the west african nation and dungeons that held people bound to the west to become slaves. a deadly battle between a polygamist sect and the drug cartels.

if you are just joining us, anderson is in ghana. we are going to bring you his exclusive interview with president obama on monday. bill clinton and george w. bush both visited ghana.

the reception president obama is getting is frankly in another league altogether. anderson back with a "360" dispatch. tomorrow the president will be at cape coast castle. what more can you tell us about that site? i know you were there today. >> yeah. we spent a lot of time there today. we will be there tomorrow interviewing the president. it is a haunting visit. there are a number of castles, fortresses that were used for hundreds of years as a holding place for slaves before they were sent to the new world, to america, elsewhere in the new world and europe. you go into these holding cells. we followed one african-american lady who whenever she visits it is a moving experience. we followed her and we are going to tell her story next week on cnn. this is where president obama and his wife and kids are going to be going tomorrow.

i will talk to them about the experience. donna brazil came to the cape coast a while ago and had a remarkable experience here that she told us about. here is what donna had to say. >> cape coast is perhaps a trip i'll never forget. the castle was built by the slave traders, the dutch, the portuguese, the british, depending on which facility you visited and it was where they -- first it was a trading post that they used to trade commodities, horse trading and copper and wood and then later it was used for the actual slave trade itself. i remember it was just dark. it was like being in a dungeon. it was like being in a tunnel. perhaps that was designed so that the victims could somehow or another forget they were part

of a village, part of a community, part of a country. what struck me the moment i walked in was the smell. i smelled human flesh. i kept thinking, this can't be. yeah. it was flesh. then you could -- it is almost as if the tears and the sweat would roll down from their bodies and it just languished right there in the dungeon. it's the smell that captured me more than anything else. there is nothing to see. it is dark. but the smell, the smell of tears, the smell of human sweat, flesh, i'll never forget that as long as i live. then when you complete the tour and you think this is -- this emotional experience is over with, you go to the end and they call it the door of no return. that's where you look out the the ocean and there was at that point it was very hard to hold

myself together because i began to think what if, what if one of my ancestors, my great, great grandparents emerged from this darkness and all they saw was this vast ocean, not knowing exactly where they would be going and what would happen next. and when i reached the door of no return, by then i -- my own tears were mixed in with the others that had been there perhaps for centuries. you wanted to cry out and say, why, god, why? why? why? that part of history we must remember. we must never forget. >> it's just incredible to hear her tell that story t. power of her words. the president has family in africa, although in kenya. i can't imagine what that visit is going to be like for him and his entire family tomorrow.

>> yeah. it will be interesting. i want to ask him about how he is going to describe and explain it to his young daughters. the door of no return is at the castle the president will be visiting. after being in these dungeons, not only used to hold but suffocate to death those who were trying to rebel. then to walk through the door of no return and see the ocean and know there were ships that were waiting to take people across the seas to further bondage. it is truly sobering. >> sobering and an important lesson for all of us. your exclusive interview next monday and tuesday. as you heard there, they have a lot of talk about. monday and tuesday. anderson has been tweeting. if you log on to ac360.com you

can read his updates and see pictures from his trip. what would you like anderson to ask president obama about in tom's exclusive interview? join the live chat at ac360.com. just ahead, a "360" follow for you. americans were part of a polyga mist sect kidnapped and killed by the drug cartels. in florida, a husband and wife murdered and eight of their children may have witnessed those killings. naing onon ud r.

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. we have new details on a story we first told you about last night about a deadly battle between a polygamist sect and a drug cartel. the families of the slain members are speaking out. gary tuchman has this three threes follow-up. >> what this mother has gone through is difficult to come prehent. her son was kidnapped by a mexican drug cartel. eric was released despite the family not paying a million dollar ransom. ramona said it was a miracle.

>> i got him back on mother's day. it is the most beautiful mother's day president. >> reporter: ma moenoa and her husband and 12 children live in mexico, 212 mile drive south of el paso, after leaving the mormon church when it banned polygamy. they came to mexico to live in peace and quiet. for most of a century they did and then came the kidnapping. another one of ramona's sons and a relative were shot to death after being kidnapped from this house. it is believed they were angry her oldest son helped the street protests against drug cartel violence. this house was full of children. two trucks pulled up in front of the house, 25 commandos rushed to the door and can see where the windows are broken. they bashed in and said they

wanted benjamin lebaron. one of them threatened to rape his wife in front of the children. benjamin lebaron's brother-in-law came over to help. they took them out and put them in the truck and their lifeless bodies for found shortly after. >> i cried. i felt a feeling in me that i can't even explain to you. >> reporter: benjamin lebaron and luis widmar were laid to rest and mexican police are all over town. police have video of a getaway vehicle going through a toll booth but no arrests have been made. eric says his brother praised him. >> i'm going to follow his example. >> reporter: the family didn't want to talk about whether they practice polygamy. >> it annoys me people talk abl

polygamy and yet we have politicians in the states who cheat on their wives and have relationships with other women all the time. >> reporter: the family is open to talking about their heartache. this must be a painful question but do you now wish he didn't speak out against the drug cartels? >> that is a tough question but i am going to tell you my belief. we are not born for certain things in our life and if we are not born to stand up for righteous principles and the things we know are true, what is good is our life? >> in colonial lebaron they believe benjamin lebaron lived a very good life. breaking news in a brutal double murder. the parents of 12 adopted children gunned down in their florida home. the latest. levy johnston speaking out

again. tonight we hear what he says is the real reason she is stepping down as governor of alaska.

roipd kay joining us with a "360" bulletin. >> police in florida are seeking two persons of interest in a shooting death of a mother and father in pensacola. eight of the couples' 16 children were asleep in the house. surveillance cameras recorded three young white men entering the house and driving away in a large red dodge van. levy johnston the 19-year-old father of sarah palin's grandson says she believes the alaska governor is stepping down to cash in on her

fame. palin's spokesperson says it is sbresing to learn levy is working on a piece of fiction while honing his acting skills. michael jackson's father joe jackson saying he believes foul play may have been involved in his son's death. he said he and his wife katherine should be granted permanent custody of jackson's three children, prince michael, pair and blanket. attention fido and fluffy, the first pet only airlines. it launches next week. each flight will carry up to 50 pawssengers. i didn't write that. the seats in the overhead bins have been removed. they have to stay in their carriers but they will have a flight attendant to look at

their in flight needs. what do you think they are going to serve on that plane? >> a lot of dog biscuits. >> peanuts. >> no peanuts. my dog loves peat nut butter. >> no drink. >> you don't want them to go to the bathroom too often. they get unruly when the bar cart goes by. are they going to put the passengers underneath. >> i bet some dogs would love, that, wouldn't they? we will check out the beat 360, our daily challenge. our chance to show up our staffers to come up with a better caption. tonight's picture, president obama and first lady michelle obama exchanging gifts with pope benedict. our staff winner is kate, don't get me wrong, they are lovely, but this whole matchy-matchy thing isn't really our style, right michelle? our winning viewer caption.

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from gary, indiana. michael jackson's hometown. a memorial with their favorite son. plenty of music and dancing and a rousing performance of "thriller." take a look. ♪ this is thriller, thriller night ♪ ♪ you know it's thriller, thriller night ♪ ♪ you are fighting for your life inside a thriller ♪ >> pretty impressive, i have to say. >> that is amazing. that is very well done. >> that is about the only song i have been hearing in laufbs. >> really, that's it? >> i have been hearing "got to be stating something." that has an infectious.

billie jean, pyt. >> blaring out of car radios. >> yeah. uniting a lot of people. "thriller" is the number one album of all time. it is the eternal moonwalk. everybody does ten seconds they keep it going, even pacman across the world. in our newsroom at "ac 360" there was an attempt here. i missed it. >> did we get that on tape? did we get our own people on tape? >> we didn't. i did hear that diana miller, our line producer on this show does a fierce moonwalk and if there were to be a battle she would win. >> that does not surprise me.

>> me neither. girls got moves. randy, get some rest this weekend. i don't know what we would do without you. >> thank you. coming up at the top of the hour, andersoned a president obama. a new voice in the jackson tragedy saying the singer, had he lived might not have survived his planned concert comeback.

anderson is in ghana where as soon as air force one touches down in the capital city president obama made history. he has been to africa before, but not as president. unlike any president part of his heritage is on this continent, specifically in kenya. >> i have family members who live in villages -- they themselves are not going hungry, but live in villages where hunger is real and so this is

something that i understand in very personal terms and if you talk to people on the ground in africa, certainly in kenya, they will say that part of the issue here is the institutions aren't working for ordinary people. >> mr. obama speaking there in rome ending his g-8 summit with a papal audience at the vatican. the president giving pope benedict a letter for the ailing senator ted kennedy asking the pontiff to pray for him. he is in ghana where he will sit down with the president. as i imagine a lot of excitement waiting for him as well. >> yeah. to say the least. people are incredibly excited. people have posters and t-shirts with the president of ghana and president obama.

a lot of people want to know where the president is going to be. are they going to get to see him there is a lot of joy that the president chose ghana to come. he has family in kenya. he could have chosen to go there as he has three times before becoming president. he chose this country because the administration believes ghana is a thriving democracy. they have had successful elections, economic roads and have been able to battle corruption in a way that many other african government they see this as a relatively successful model and one they want to praise and hold up as an s have not. example tor the rest of africa. >> for many americans, there are parts of ghana that are part of america's dark past, cape coast castle, specifically. i know you are headed there tomorrow. >> i spent part of friday there as well. the president will be going to one of these castles with his wife and kids. what is significant about these

fortresses is parts of them are dungeons where hundreds of thousands, more than a million slaves, africans who were enslaved were held before being shipped to the new world, to to america, being shipped to the west indies and europe. i went there today. the president will be there tomorrow. i will speak to him at the site of one of these fortresses. it is a sobering visit for anybody who goes there. there are many african-americans who come back and make that return. we spoke to one of them today and we'll have that later in the program. it is a chilling place to stand in one of these dungeons where hundreds of africans who were enslaved were held, many suffocated to death, many brutalized, killed. a truly sobering experience. we'll have some of that later in the program. >> we'll check with you later for that anderson, thanks. breaking news tonight there is a new voice in the michael jackson story.

it is 180 degrees different from those claiming that jackson was physically fit enough or mentally ready for the grueling series of 50 comeback concerts. one of the developments, this musical memorial happening in gary, indiana. father joe jackson attending and a custody hearing postponed for a second time. the fascinating new development center on michael jackson's physical condition. was he, as some say, fit, free of needle marks, happy? or was he as randy kay has been uncovering, a mess? she has more for us tonight. >> reporter: if michael jackson had lived to begin his upcoming london shows this man says he likely would not have finished them. >> i knew he wasn't ready to handle them. i knew it was something that he could not do. he also knew that. >> reporter: leonard rowe knew michael jackson for 30 years.

he said jackson hired him to handle the finances for his final tour but one look at him and rowe had doubts. >> the reason i thought he couldn't handle it was easy. first of all, i saw the shape he was in physically, michael weighed 110, 115 pounds. he was 5'10". >> reporter: rowe told me jackson did not want to work that hard and did not want to go ahead with a grueling concert schedule. he said the singer told him he agreed to do ten shows but the promoter, aeg, sold out 50. he said jackson asked him to figure out a more doable schedule. rowe says he asked aeg to cut back. >> i suggested to him we do two shows a week but when i went to aeg randy phillips and spoke to him on the phone first, he told me basically to shove off. he didn't want to talk about it. >> reporter: phillips denies they ever talked. aeg told cnn jackson passed a

five-hour medical exam and told "360" last week -- >> all i know is the michael jackson that hugged me and said good night was a healthy, vibrant many human being. >> when i hear people saying that michael was in great shape and that he was raring to go, i know this is untrue. they know it is untrue as well. michael was not in good physical shape and michael was not raring to go. >> reporter: in response to allegations that aeg refused to make jackson's schedule earlier, randy phillips told us jackson had agreed to 50 shows, adding he needed the money. rowe believed jackson was weakened by what he calls the singer's addiction to prescription drugs. >> it was common knowledge to everybody that michael was addicted to prescription drugs. you don't have to be an m.d. to know he was not in good physical shape. you could look at him. physically, it wasn't there. i knew when i looked at him and told him. he was underweight tremendously. he said he doesn't have an

appetite. >> reporter: rowe says he last saw jackson three weeks before his death at a meeting at his home. he said jackson was in his pajamas looking frail and thin. rowe told me one week before michael jackson died he spoke to some of his family members about getting him some help, including his father, joe jackson and his brother, randy. they agreed to get jackson into rehabilitation. they never had the chance. he died before they could make a move. whenever rowe saw jackson he said the singer wore long sleeves. reports that his arms were covered in track marks suggesting heavy iv drug use did not surprise rowe. what did surprise him is those around him on a daily basis didn't do more to save him. we reached out to the jackson family for a comment regarding what leonard rowe told us.

the family's representative told us there would be no comment tonight. >> no surprise there, randy. we got word late today that the custody hearing scheduled for monday is postponed a second time at the request of katherine and debbie rowe. any more insight whether debbie rowe, jackson's ex-wife is planning to seek custody? >> we have a little information. i spoke to a friend of debbie rowe's who happens to be a former business partner of michael jackson's. he said he fully expects debbie rowe to go for custody. joe jackson is talking about helping raise the children is a problem for her since michael jackson had a terrible relationship with his father. this friend told me that debbie rowe said and i'm quoting here, he said this about her, she is not just going to lay down and roll over, he said. maybe they are trying to come to an agreement out of court and out of the public eye and that's

why this hearing has been delayed. we'll have to wait and see if this gets ugly. >> randy kay, we'll check with you in a little bit. weigh in on the live chat ac360.com. i promise i'm going to log on in the next block. randy said, the custody hearing postponed doesn't lessen the fireworks. there are potential complications. we will dissect those with "inside edition"'s jim moret and later sanjay gupta and erin brockovich with a story that is mind blowing, not only about how little coverage it is getting but how badly the victims are hurting. >> death. cancer. everyone here deserves a future. you know? (announcer) the same rapid response you expect

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as you well know by now there is little that is ordinary about the michael jackson story including the custody hearing that was postponed late today for a second time. right now jackson's children are with his mother katherine. named in the will as guardian. she has temporary court appointed guardianship and the eldest is exclude in the will and thought to be out of the picture. when the hearing does happen, right now we are told it is going to be monday, july 20th, will rowe be there? and what about a system that normally places a premium on a biological parent when it comes to custody? how will that figure in in this case. we are digging deeper on that drama.

jim moret is chief correspondent with "inside edition." he is also an attorney. >> jim, great to have you back with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> the custody hearing pushed back at the request of both katherine jackson and debbie rowe. what do you think is happening behind the scenes? could they be working something out? >> it indicates the two sides are talking. one of the attorneys for katherine jackson said as much. that is a good thing. the best interest of the children would be served if this could be worked out outside of the public eye without a protracted battle. >> katherine jackson filed for sole custody. michael jackson named her, didn't name her husband, his father, joe jackson. he was asked by abc who should raise michael jackson's children. take a listen to his response. >> their grandmother. katherine and i. yes. there's no one else to do what we could do for them.

keep them all together and make them happy. >> jim, it is not clear that katherine and joe actually live together at this point and frankly there are questions about what joe did for his own children. whether or not he made them happy. is he hurting katherine jackson's case? >> he is not helping. that's for sure. i wonder why he is speaking out. since michael jackson's death he said such strange things. at the b.e.t. awards the day after he was hawking his own record label. katherine jackson filed for guardianship alone not with joe jackson who lives in las vegas who does not live with katherine jackson in encino. in the will michael jackson made it clear he wants katherine jackson alone. there are many allegations that michael jackson made about being physically and mentally abused. debbie rowe said to a local reporter in los angeles she wanted to go for custody and seek a restraining order against joe jackson to keep him away

from her children. joe jackson saying he wants to be involved is not a good thing for katherine jackson. >> you mentioned debbie rowe and her thoughts on joe jackson. we heard randy kay spoke with a friend of debbie rowe's who says she is not going to roll over. she fully intends to seek custody. what are her chances? >> there is a presumption for the biological parent? >> even though they have had no relationship which apparently she has not had with her two children? >> she has tried to give away custody, give up her parental rights. it was overturned by an appeals court. yes. there is still a presumption. the judge is going to look at a lot of things. don't forget she only has rights with respect to two children. there are three children. you don't want to split up the family. that would be horrible for these kids. they already lost a father. you don't want them to lose a sibling as well. you want to look at what is in their best interest. they have a relationship with katherine, cousins, aunts and uncles. that will be taken into consideration as well as listening to the kids.

what do they want? debbie rowe has a legal interest in two children. it is not a clear cut case or easy case. it's one that's going to take time. hopefully there will be a resolution outside of court. >> best for the children. real quickly, how would debbie rowe's comments from the past figure in? she has said things about having children. i did it for him to become a father not for me to become a mother. she said when asked what would happen with the kids should michael die "i'm sure he has a wonderful person in mind to take care of them." could that come back and haunt them? >> it can. you can also say she basically sold them for $8.5 million. she is the biological mother and could position herself saying michael is a great father. he is gone. i want to step into their lives. >> we'll certain i will be

following it. before we let you go, we want to turn over to the investigation into michael jackson's death. the lapd hasn't ruled out homicide. his father saying he suspects foul play. knowing what we know and what we learned about doctor shopping, all of these different prescription drugs which have been mentioned, how hard could homicide or even foul play be to prove? >> look at the anna nicole case. it is a clear parallel. you have doctors who allegedly overprescribed or abused or used aliases. that's really what they are looking at here. they are looking at a long period of time. the lapd police chief said they are looking for the coroner's report to corroborate the cause of death, corroborate which clearly implies they have a strong belief that something was involved that is clearly drug abuse. >> jim, good to have you with us. thanks. >> thanks, erica. we are going to return to anderson in ghana, a look inside the sobering slave castle where president obama will be visiting tomorrow.

it is literally the point of no return for slaves on their way to the new world. also ahead tonight, a thriller of a memorial for michael jackson, away from the sparkle in his hometown gary, indiana, that and more as "360" continues.

coming up "360" m.d. sanjay gupta teaming up with erin brockovich to cover america's largest environment disaster. it happened just months ago. the victims are suffering and you may not know anything about it. who is to blame here? we are keeping them honest but first, randy kay joins us with the "360" bulletin. >> an iranian american has been arrested in tehran. sources close to the family say security forces took him into custody, ransacked his home and took his computer. he was briefly in prison two years ago. on accusations he endangered iranian national security. it is unclear why he was arrested this time. one analyst tells cnn this could be an effort by tehran to drag washington into tehran's post election turmoil. michael ware's exclusive report on how pakistan's military is offering to broker a cease fire in pakistan. suggesting the u.s. sit down

with afghan taliban leader. in return pakistan wants america's help in reining in its number one rival, india. what is the u.s. response? michael spoke to the u.s. envoy to afghanistan, richard holbrooke. >> let me be very clear. i'm not going to rule out or rule in anything on a hypothetical basis and not get drawn into speculation on an issue this complicated. i want to underscore existing policy addressed by everybody in the u.s. government from the president on down. there is room in afghanistan for taliban people who have fought with the taliban, willing to participate in the political structure, who are willing to disassociate and renounce al qaeda and are willing to lay down their arms. >> in new york, part of bernard madoff's old office is up for lease. fbi agents investigating the

massive ponzi scheme are still looking through hi reports on one floor until next summer. madoff is serving 150 years in prison for the scam that wiped out thousands of investors. >> interesting to see who takes on that office space. >> you think maybe they would get a deal. >> you would think. especially given the current real estate climate and the fact there may have been some shady stuff going on there. >> maybe. erin brockovich, protecting families in fear. erin and dr. sanjay gupta taking us to a community where the people are choking on ash. now they are trying to get some answers on what some consider a catastrophe in the making. >> the thing that blew my mind is there was a lake there. it's gone. i kept saying where's the lake? it's gone. it is mud. it looks like a moonscape.

it looks like mars. >> joe jackson, the new interview, speaking out about the custody case and why he and his wife katherine should raise michael jackson's children.

ever since julia roberts portrayed her on film, erin brockovich has become a star in her own right, activist and crusader for truth. tonight what may be her most important mission yet. she is teaming with with dr. sanjay gupta for a story you need to know about. and frankly, may find very

difficult to believe. the worst environmental disaster in u.s. history and it is actually happening right now. it is not off the shores of los alaska, it is in tennessee. this massive toxic threat could be spreading. here is sanjay's report. >> reporter: desperation is mounting here ever since the disaster six months ago. families are terrified about their health and they fear no one is listening. >> death. cancer. everyone here deserves a future, you know. >> reporter: three days before christmas a barrier broke and a torrent of toxic sludge spilled across 300 acres in eastern tennessee. i went to see for myself. before arriving to the spill site a hitch. >> we're a little stuck at the moment. >> what has happened with the coal ash it has taken this body of water that used to be 25 feet

deep and turned it into just inches deep. as we are cruising along in the boat the motor gets stuck and we are trying to get a tow. here is what we do know for the united states, this is the largest environmental disaster ever. just to give a scale of reference, valdez was about 11 million gallons. >> that's right. >> 11 million gallons of oil spilled with the exxon valdez. here in tennessee, 1.1 billion gallons spilled, almost 100 times larger and yet families here believe no one responsible for protecting them takes their fears seriously. >> i know darn well it is hazardous. you know what? they know it, too. i guarantee you, if any of those people lived here they would be totally freaking out just like the rest of us. >> reporter: community members blame the tennessee valley authority the tva, and they brought in environmental activist erin brockovich to help.

she successfully sued a big utility in california in the 1990s. >> the thing that blew my mind is there was a lake there. it's gone. i kept saying where's the lake? it is gone. it is mud. it looks like a moonscape. it looks like mars. >> reporter: to produce power, the tennessee valley authority, the tva burns tons of coal every day. that produces ash. there is no safe way to dispose of it so the tva mixes it with water and stores it in vast retention ponds that are not supposed to break. >> tva maintains we did daily inspections and quarterly inspections and constant monitoring. this was not expected at all. >> reporter: but keeping them honest, we found inspection reports that detail "visible evidence of water seeping out of the coal dam and small blowouts for years before this spill." engineering and geology experts

say all the signs for eminent danger were there. we made our way here by boat. i'm about to show you the largest industrial spill in u.s. history. take a look over here. this is coal ash. what is remarkable to us when you talk to the tennessee valley authority and the epa, they have tested the water and air and say it is safe. as we investigated and talked to the citizens, we are hearing a different store, bloody noses, asthma, head aches. people say they are choking on ash. the hamptons live less than a mile away from the spill. here is what they see. >> a daughter constantly complaining of headaches she didn't used to have before. joshua is having upper respiratory situations, noah, drainage out of the eye, not, chronic cough. he was having ear infections and they were so bad the doctor said they looked like grapes in his ears.

he never had this before. never. >> reporter: after the spill a duke university study found high levels of toxic elements and radioactivity, toxins in the atmosphere and contamination of surface waters. a georgian scientists with the tennessee aquarium research institute which works to protect the environment. >> we have seen some fish where the gills are completely coated in sediment. it makes it difficult to breathe. it is like suffocating. >> reporter: coal ash that contains arsenic, lead and selenium but not considered by the epa to be hazardous. why wouldn't that be considered hazardous? >> the epa treats it as solid waste, equivalent to garbage. by the end of the year, we will make that regulatory determination as to whether or not it is hazardous. >> reporter: at issue, what is safe? >> all of the air samples meet national standards, the water,

the private wells in the area, the raw water intake and the treated water meet the state and federal standards for drinking water. >> we have to convince someone that inhaling cancer-causing chemicals is bad for you. this doesn't make any sense at all. >> reporter: the tva advises families to see their doctors about health problems and says soon clinics will be set up to test blood for potential toxins. like many families here, the hamptons can't afford to move. >> i have no confidence in what they are saying. they are doing this and doing it right. absolutely none. i can't believe anything they say. because to me it is a lie. >> reporter: erin brockovich echos the fears of people here. >> somebody has to protect these people because they are going to find out ten years too late, the oh, oops moment. i do have cancer. i am sick and then there will be no recourse for them.

that's not fair and that's not right. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, kingston, tennessee. >> last month a consultant found several reasons why the pond collapsed, including the height of the pile, the high water content of the ash and the construction of the sloping dikes. the tennessee valley authority has accepted that report. also last month the federal government released a list of 44 coal ash dumps across the country classified as high hazard. erin brockovich has more to tell you. you can read more at ac360.com. just ahead, anderson live in ghana. we will have a preview of his day tomorrow with president obama in the west african nation as well as anderson's visit to a slave trade landmark, dungeons that held people bound for the west to become slaves. a deadly battle between a polygamist sect and the drug cartels of mexico. the town where two americans were killed and spoke to one

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if you are just joining us, anderson is in ghana. we are going to bring you his exclusive interview with president obama on monday. two other u.s. presidents have visited the african nation while in office, bill clinton and george w. bush. both were greeted warmly.

the reception president obama is getting is frankly in another league altogether. anderson back with a "360" dispatch. tomorrow the president will be at cape coast castle. what more can you tell us about that site? i know you were there today. >> yeah. we spent a lot of time there today. we will be there tomorrow interviewing the president. it is a haunting visit. there are a number of castles, fortresses along the coast in ghana that were used for hundreds of years as a holding place for slaves before they were sent to the new world, to america, elsewhere in the new world and europe. you go into these holding cells. we followed one african-american lady who moved here, whenever she visits the cape coast castle it is truly a very moving experience for her. we followed her and we are going to tell her story next week on cnn. this is where president obama and his wife and kids are going to be going tomorrow. i will be talking to them about

their experience. our own donna brazile came to the cape coast a while ago and had a remarkable experience here that she told us about. here is what donna had to say. >> cape coast is perhaps a trip i'll never forget. the castle was built by the slave traders, the dutch, the portuguese, the british, depending on which facility you visited and it was where they -- first it was a trading post that they used to trade commodities, horse trading and copper and wood and then later it was used for the actual slave trade itself. i remember it was just dark. it was like being in a dungeon. it was like being in a tunnel. perhaps that was designed so that the victims could somehow or another forget they were part of a village, part of a community, part of a country. what struck me the moment i

walked in was the smell. i smelled human flesh. i kept thinking, this can't be. yeah. it was flesh. then you could -- it is almost as if the tears and the sweat would roll down from their bodies and it just languished right there in the dungeon. it's the smell that captured me more than anything else. there is nothing to see. it is dark. but the smell, the smell of tears, the smell of human sweat, flesh, i'll never forget that as long as i live. then when you complete the tour and you think this is -- this emotional experience is over with, you go to the end and they call it the door of no return. that's where you look out the the ocean and there was at that point it was very hard to hold myself together because i began to think what if, what if one of

my ancestors, my great, great grandparents emerged from this darkness and all they saw was this vast ocean, not knowing exactly where they would be going and what would happen next. and when i reached the door of no return, by then i -- my own tears were mixed in with the others that had been there perhaps for centuries. you wanted to cry out and say, why, god, why? why? why? that part of history we must remember. we must never forget. >> it's just incredible to hear her tell that story and the power of her words, anderson. the president has family in africa, although in kenya. i can't imagine what that visit is going to be like for him and his entire family tomorrow. >> yeah. it will be interesting. i want to ask him about how he

is going to describe and explain it to his young daughters. the door of no return is at the castle the president will be visiting. we walked tli through it today. after being in these dungeons, not only used to hold but suffocate to death those who were trying to rebel. then to walk through the door of no return and see the ocean and know there were ships that were waiting to take people across the seas to further bondage. it is truly sobering. >> sobering and an important lesson for all of us. we'll be looking forward to hearing all about it from you. your exclusive interview next monday and tuesday. as you heard there, they have a lot of talk about. frankly that is just the beginning. monday and tuesday at 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on "ac 360." anderson has been tweeting. if you log on to ac360.com you can read his updates and see pictures from his trip. get a little bit more insight

into how his days are actually going. what would you like anderson to ask president obama about in tom's exclusive interview? one way to get that question out there, join the live chat at ac360.com. just ahead, a "360" follow for you. americans were part of a polygamist second in mexico were kidnapped and killed but drug cartels. breaking news. a shocking crime in florida, a husband and wife murdered and police believe eight of their children may have witnessed those killings.

we have new details on a story we first told you about last night about a deadly battle between a polygamist sect in mexico and a murderous drug cartel. the families of the slain members are speaking out. gary tuchman has this three "360" follow up. >> what this mother has gone through in the last two monte is difficult to comprehend. her son was kidnapped by a mexican drug cartel. eric lebaron was released a week after his kidnapping despite the family not paying a million dollar ransom.

ramona said it was a miracle. >> i got him back on mother's day. it is the most beautiful mother's day present i have ever had in my life. >> reporter: ramona and her husband and 12 children live in lebaron, mexico, 212 mile drive south of el paso, after leaving the mormon church when it banned polygamy. they came to mexico to live in peace and quiet. for most of a century they did and then came the kidnapping. this week something much worse. another one of ramona's sons and a relative were shot to death after being kidnapped from this house. from what where suspected to be cartel members. it is believed they were angry her oldest son helped the street protests against drug cartel violence. this house was full of children. when these unimaginable horrors happened here. neighbors say two trucks pulled up in front of the house. 25 commandos rushed to the door and can see where the windows are broken.

they bashed in and said they wanted benjamin lebaron. one of them threatened to rape his wife in front of the children. the wife pleaded leave me alone, leave my children alone. from across the street benjamin lebaron's brother-in-law came in to help. they took them out and put them in the truck and their lifeless bodies for found shortly after. >> i cried. i felt a feeling in me that i can't even explain to you. >> reporter: benjamin lebaron and luis widmar were laid to rest thursday. security was intense and well armed mexican police are all over town. police have video of a getaway vehicle going through a toll booth but no arrests have been made. eric says his brother praised him for his courage after he was released by the kidnappers. now eric says this about his brother. >> i'm going to follow his example. >> reporter: the family didn't want to talk about whether they practice polygamy. another one of the brothers says it is a very sensitive topic.

>> it just annoys me that people talk so much about polygamy and our town as if we are disgusting people yet we have politicians in the states who cheat on their wives and have relationships with other women all the time. >> reporter: the family is open to talking about their heartache. this must be a painful question but do you now wish he didn't speak out against the drug cartels? >> that is a tough question but i am going to tell you my belief. if we are not born for certain things in our life and if we are not born to stand up for righteous principles and the things we know are true, what good is our life? >> in colonial lebaron they believe benjamin lebaron lived a very good life. gary tuchman, cnn, colonial lebaron, mexico. breaking news in a brutal double murder. the parents of 12 adopted children gunned down in their florida home. we have the late es for you on the investigation. levy johnston speaking out

again. tonight we hear what he says is the real reason she is stepping down as governor of alaska.

want to get you caught up on the stories we're tom lowing. randi kaye joining us with a 360 bulletin. >> breaking news, police in florida are seeking two persons of interest in shooting deaths

of a mother and father during a home invasion near pensacola. eight of the couple's 16 children were asleep in the house at the time. police say surveillance cameras recorded three young white men entering the house and driving away in a large, red dodge van. at a news conference, levi johnston, the 19-year-old father of sarah palin's grandson, said he believes the alaska governor is stepping down to cash in on her fame. he told reporters while he was living with the palins months ago he heard the governor say how nice it would be to take advantage of the lucrative deals she was being offered. palin's spokeswoman had this to say about johnston, pursuing his own book and movie deal. she said it is interesting to learn levi is working on a piece of fiction while honing acting skills. michael jackson's father, joe jackson speaking out tonight saying he believes foul play may have been involved in his son's sudden death. joe jackson also said he and his wife, katherine, should be granted permanent custody of

jackson's three children, prince michael, paris, and blanket. all right, this one i love. attention fito and fluffy. the nation's first pet-only airline. pet airways launches next week out of new york, washington, chicago, denver and los angeles. each flight will carry up to 50 pawsengers. i didn't write that. t seats have been removed to make room for the pets. they'll have to stay in carriers but have a flight attendant to look out for in flight needs. what do you think they're going to serve on that plane? >> a lot of dog planes. my dog loves peanut butter. maybe peanut butter crackers. >> no drinks. >> don't want them to go to the bathroom too often. little water. may get unruly when the bar cart goes by. i wonder if they're going to put the passengers underneath if the pets are up top on that one? >> i'm sure some petss would

love that one. reworking it all. we'll check out today's beat 360, daily challenge to viewers, a chance to show up staffers by coming up a better caption for the picture we post on our blog every day. tonight's picture, president obama and first lady michelle obama exchanging gifts with pope benedict. staff winner, kate, don't get me wrong, they're lovely but this whole match chi match chi thing isn't really our style, right, michelle? very cute. and our winning viewer caption comes from brandy in atlanta. i feel they won again recently. maybe it was this week. i remember this tag teaming action. are these from the martha stewart pope collection? nice. features exclusive by at kmart. is martha stewart still at kmart? i may be dating myself. your beat 360 t-shirt is on the way. now they'll each have one. michael jackson's hometown

saying good-bye. the tribute in gary, indiana, included a rendition of "thriller."

all right. randi, tonight's shot comes from gary, indiana, michael jackson's hometown. the city held its memorial with its favorite son with plenty of music and dancing, including a rousing performance of "thriller." take a look.

♪ ♪ thriller night and no one's going to save you ♪ ♪ you know it's thriller, killer nights ♪ ♪ fighting for yourself inside a thriller killer ♪ >> pretty impressive i have to say. that is amazing. very well-done. that's about the only song i've been hearing out here in los angeles. >> really, that's it? i've been hearing a lot of "got to be starting something." has a beat. i got to tell you. lot of "billie jean." "pretty young thing." >> blaring out of the car radios. down the streets of new york, too. uniting a lot of people. interesting and fun to see on the streets. "thriller" remains the number one selling album of all time. couldn't leave without showing you the cooler global tributes

we've seen. check it out. it's the eternal moonwalk. ♪ it is ten seconds. they keep it going for each frame. even packman around the world. in our newsroom at a.c. 360 there was a little bit of an attempt here. i missed it. >> did we get that on tape? can we get our own people on tape? >> we didn't. we'll have to work on that monday. diana miller, line producer on this show, does a fierce moonwalk. if there was to be a battle, she would win it. >> that does not surprise me. i've seen her in the newsroom before. >> randi, get rest this weekend. you've been breaking stories left and right. don't know what we'd do without you. anderson is in ghana for an exclusive interview with president obama airing monday, "larry king live" starts right now.