simple, leave a legacy of jobs. for more creative ways to reinvent yourself for a you this career, check out the top ten jobs for the recession. that's it for us. larry ling live starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: tonight, he helpedsave michael jackson's life and he's here. mikko brando takes us back to that horrible day and how he rescued the king of pop from an inferno that could have killed him. plus, joe jackson the reality show. is he the father who terrified michael and his siblings? a loving dad that tried to do the best for his kids? something in between? meet the people that followed them around with cameras for months. and then major developments in the killings of the florida

couple that adopted 17 children. they have suspects and now they have something else. they may have cracked this case wide open. motive is next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. mikko brando returns tonight, long-time friend and employee of michael jackson. in fact, michael was best man at his wedding, godfather to his daughter and son of late marlon brando. michael jackson is dead three weeks ago today. you've been on this show a number of time. has it settled in for you? >> not really. i go through spurts where i get emotional when i hear his voice, when i see his photograph. it hits me. but i try to move on. >> okay. we're going to show that shocking footage from the 1984 pepsi commercial shot during which michael's hair caught fire and obtained and made public by "us weekly." you were there.

tell us what you saw and felt and did as we show this. >> we were shooting a pepsi commercial for the upcoming tour. the victory tour. and it was at the shine auditorium in downtown l.a. i was standing stage left. and when he came into my sight, i just saw him. i saw his hair -- it was on fire. my instincts were to run out there and put my hands over his head, put him out. i did it. i think the fire marshals were. there they asked us to move about, give them some room. they took over. they escorted him off the stage. they walked him off the stage. and then he ended up going to the hospital that night. >> larry: did you put out the fire? >> yeah, i got my hands burned. >> larry: by doing what? >> by putting my hand through his hair -- putting my hand through his hair. >> larry: was he screaming?

>> there was so much chaos, i don't remember. >> larry: it is hard for you to watch this? >> yes. to see your friend on fire, the worst thing i can imagine. >> larry: the video shows the hair on fire for ten seconds before anyone seems to register. >> yeah. >> larry: what was it like? >> i think it was -- >> larry: they finished five takes. >> this was the sixth. the zpoeexplosionors fireworks off too soon. when he started walking down, he didn't come into sight to me until he was spinning around right there. and i came in and the rest is history. >> larry: did your hands get burned? >> a little bit, yes, they did. >> larry: you weren't thinking anything when you charged him? >> no. instincts is just to go. >> larry: that concert was in, why were pyrotechnics involved in this? >> the pyrotechnics were for the

commercial itself with the brothers, michael during a pepsi commercial spot, promoting the victory tour concert in '84. >> larry: how well did everyone react after the fire was put out? did they get him on a stretcher? >> it was professionally done, absolutely. like i said, the fire marshals took over and the ambulance was there, we went to the hospital. everything was done by the book. >> larry: do we know what went wrong? >> i think the explosions went up too soon. too soon. and he was still on top of the stairs rather than being down at the bottom and then go off. >> larry: was there an investigation? >> i think there was. >> larry: was anybody held to be blamed? >> i don't remember. i'm sure there was, yeah. >> larry: had they completed the pepsi commercial began running in february of '84. let's watch the completed one. watch.

♪ ♪ you're a whole new generation getting through the day ♪ ♪ you grab some magic on the run you're a whole new generation ♪ ♪ you know what to do there's pepsi in the room ♪ ♪ that charges after you >> larry: were there flames used in the completed commercial? >> i think there was, yeah. that's it. >> larry: he sure looked great. >> yeah. great performer. >> larry: and commercial, i guess, got a lot of attention when it final lay played. >> yeah. got more attention afterwards than it was supposed to. >> larry: have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> larry: what do you make of

all the drug things going on? >> larry, i -- no comment. >> larry: you were with him so much. >> yeah. >> larry: was he spaced out? was he addicted? >> i couldn't answer that. i mean seriously. >> larry: did you ever see him in a condition where he was out of it? >> no. he was always good shape. we always had fun. we went shopping. we went to disneyland. there was always good -- no. not at all. >> larry: do you know why he had so much plastic surgery? >> because he wanted. to he wanted to do it. he thought he could. why not? >> larry: did he not like the way he looked? >> i don't think it's the way he looked. >> larry: hard to believe. >> yeah, michael jackson. he's fine. >> larry: what have you heard? have the autopsy results come in soon? >> i haven't heard anything about the second autopsy. i think they're still waiting for the results. >> larry: what have you heard about burial? >> nothing yet.

i haven't heard a word. >> larry: do you know where the body is? >> no, i don't. >> larry: do you expect it to be neverland? >> that's one of the choices. i don't know what the other ones are. but that's one of them. >> larry: it won't be at neverland, right? >> that's what they say, right. >> larry: i guess you think about that commercial scene a lot, don't you? >> yeah. yes. i mean that was bad. i think about it -- now i think about it more seeing it all the time on tv. >> larry: did he thank you? >> absolutely. absolutely. big hug and kiss. i said -- >> larry: he ought. to. >> mutual. >> larry: thank you, miko. be well. more about miko's account of the fire go, to cnn.com/larryking. we have his blog exclusive for through. next, the other side of joe jackson. we'll meet the reality show producers who got no know joe. hear what they have to say about him right after this.

>> larry: welcome to "larry king live." dave is co-founder of global entertainment network, an executive producer of "meet joe jackson," an unreleased tv reality show. lisa love is director of strategic partnerships and executive producer of "meet joe jackson." what's the show all about and why haven't we seen it, dave? >> well, the show is about joe. and we wanted to bring balance to what the media always presented about joe, get to know who he is. >> larry: how long you have been shooting it?

>> we shot it for about a year. so in 2008, roughly, we shot it. >> larry: lisa, why haven't we seen it? >> you haven't seen it yet because we didn't know what we were going to do with the great footage. when we started filming joe, there was a lot for to joe than what people knew. so we weren't sure if we were going to do a 90-minute special or a movie or reality show or what we were going to do with it. >> larry: is the whole family in it, dave? >> not the whole family. but joe and katherine and the grandkids. >> larry: michael? >> no. >> larry: what is the impact of all the work you've done? >> well, i think it's very important right now that joe is being so scrutinized, as he always has been, that people really find out that joe is a very dedicated, loving father and a wonderful person, an excellent father. >> larry: do you expect for us to all see it soon? >> yes. >> larry: do you know why we

don't have clips tonight? >> no, you have clips of joe. >> larry: i see the stills but no clips. >> no clips yet. >> larry: do you think it will be a special rather than a series? >> at this point, i'm not really sure. the footage is represented by ata international. and they're handling all of that for us. >> larry: have you gotten interest? >> i'm sure they definitely got interest. >> larry: okay, david, the public perception of joe jackson is not particularly great. >> correct. >> larry: what don't we know about him? >> you don't know the joe that the jokester, you don't know the joe that is always laughing. you don't know the joe that drives a pt cruiser and keep up with him. you don't know that joe. you have never seen it. >> larry: easy to be around? >> very easy. >> larry: was he cooperate sniff. >> absolutely. one of our best shoots ever. >> larry: he didn't boss you or anything? >> never. never. >> larry: what about his relationship with katherine? did you look into that? >> yes. i had the opportunity to sit down and talk with joe and katherine and talk to them about, you know, how long they've been married, raising

their children. and they're an adorable couple. >> but they don't live together? >> i wouldn't say they don't live together. i'd say they probably have more than one residence. >> larry: but do they -- they don't have great differences? are you saying they're a happy couple? >> i'm saying they're a happy couple. i don't know the personal issues as i just don't know any married couple's personal issues. but what i do know is that they love each other and it's evident and speaking with them and listening to them talk about the life that they've shared, it's beautiful. >> larry: dave, how much footage do you have? >> 40 hours. >> larry: 40 hours? >> yes. >> larry: whoa. what surprised you the most about him? >> how much he made us laugh as a production company. you know, the guy is always cracking jokes. he remembers things. he is 80 years old and he remembers everything you ever tell him. >> larry: as a personal opinion, that's all it could be, should he be involved in the raising of the grandkids? >> i believe absolutely so. the jackson family is a family unit. they're a loving family.

they're a family just like any other family. they loved michael. you heard joe say that that was the idol of the family. i believe that there is no one that loves michael more than the jacksons. i think that his children should be with the jacksons. >> larry: where did you shoot them, dave? where were you at? >> we shot them at the casino and then we traveled with them to spo can, indiana and chicago. >> larry: any in vegas? >> yeah. >> larry: and will we see them interchanging with family members? >> yes, giving advice with the granddaughter and joking with the grandsons, joking with katherine. >> larry: do you expect any friction? >> no friction occurred. like i said, they are a typical american family just like any other american family. where there are, you know,tives in any family, i'm sure there are tiffs in there's also. >> larry: i hope we get to see it. >> you'll get to see it.

>> larry: thanks, lisa. good luck, dave. all right, we hope you goat see it soon. we would love to see it. dave and lisa, thank you. an unreleased michael jackson song. you're going to hear it in 60 seconds. you have questions. who can give you the financial advice you need? where will you find the stability and resources to keep you ahead of this rapidly evolving world? these are tough questions. that's why we brought together two of the most powerful names in the industry. introducing morgan stanley smith barney.

here to rethink wealth management. here to answer... your questions. morgan stanley smith barney. a new wealth management firm with over 130 years of experience. >> larry: michael jackson recorded a lot of music that was not released. some was obtained by tmz.com. this song has not been confirmed by sony. here is "a place with no name." ♪ she said don't you worry my friend ♪ ♪ take my hand i'll take us there ♪ ♪ take me to a place without no name ♪ ♪ take me to a place without no name ♪

>> larry: paul mccartney spoke to david letterman last night about his relationship with michael and the beatles music catalog which michael owned. watch. >> we made a couple records together, we did a video. and we're very good friends. it actually kind of fell apart a little bit later because he was talking to me and asking me my business advice. one of the things i said to him is think about getting into music publishing. he looked at me and he said i'm going to get yours. yeah. so you know, i kind of thought oh, you. but it turned out to be true. >> larry: can you go to our blog, cnn.com/larryking for details about the fire that could have killed michael. the man who was right there, miko brando has all the scoop. you won't read it anywhere else. now we switch gears. there were developments in the

murders of the florida couple in the ninja style assault. have authorities really cracked the case wide open? that's next. ♪ well i was shopping for a new car, ♪

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>> larry: a couple known for adopting special needs children were shot to death last week in their home in florida. the brutal crime sent shock waves through the community. cnn's reporter joins us with the latest which is what, ed? what is the latest? >> reporter: well, the investigators here in pensacola say they're nearing the end of this investigation. but it has been a rather quick developing day as well. authorities say they discovered a key piece of evidence including the safe that was stolen from the billings home. they're in the process of going through that to see what was in

it, what is missing. and they've also found, they say, the weapons used in these crimes which include handguns and long guns and one of the attorneys prosecutors in this case says that they believe they have the murder weapon in this case. so federal investigators are -- or federal authorities are going through the tests and ballistics test that's need to be done on the weapons now. >> larry: what about the eighth suspect, a woman taken into custody yesterday? what about her? >> larry: did you hear me, ed? >> reporter: actually, i'm having a hard time hearing you. >> larry: we'll try to get it one more time. the eighth suspect, a woman, taken into custody last night. what do we know about her? >> reporter: we know that she's actually out on bond. she was able to post bond earlier today. it was a low bond. but what is interesting about her is that authorities say she had a close relationship with the person they believe is the ringleader of this group that

she had been speaking with him in the days and the day of leading up to these murders. and what is interesting is that the safe was found on one of her properties here in the pensacola area. and we also understand that her -- she was the owner of a red minivan that according to an arrest report we were able to read today said that van was placed near the billings home leading up to the murders and was used as a get away vehicle by the suspects who are accused of the murders. >> larry: thanks, ed. we'll check back with you again. of course, now in pensacola is crystal spencer. crystal is the attorney for ashley markham, the oldest daughter of murder victims melanie and bird billings. visitation for bird and mel any w melanie was this evening. what was it like? >> it was heart warming. there was a huge community outpouring. very, very large church. and they had it set up to where probably close to 1,000 people can easily be accommodated.

there were photos of bud and melanie's life and the children and so many people who knew them, knew them well, everything from nurses that had helped with the children through the years. some of these adoptions were open adoptions. so, you know, you had family members and extended family members. it was really amazing. beautiful, beautiful setup. >> larry: why does ashley need an attorney? >> well, there are a lot of things you have to take care of such as guardianships being set up, how you're going to take care of these children. one of the things that they really needed assistance with is the intense media interest. also, they want to make sure they're not saying anything that would compromise the ultimate prosecution in this case. i have been extremely impressed with the state attorney's office many of whom are my friends.

i raised my hand and took an oath with several of them that i'm working with now. they're keeping me informed. i understand the process. i'm a former prosecutor from many years ago. but i understand the process. i'm helping them actually wade through many, many, many difficult waters at this time. >> larry: nine of the children were in the home the night of the shootings. do you know, crystal if, they've been questioned by police? >> there are details of this prosecution that we're not able to go into as it relates to the children. that would be a detail, larry that, i would fear would compromise both the children and this prosecution. >> larry: concerned about the safety of any of the children? >> certainly. there are -- there are people in this world that -- this is a crime that was unimaginable. you cannot even begin to think

that people are capable of doing this. and, so, you have to be protective of the children and this is still an on going investigation. while we believe that the major players have been arrested, they're still investigating this case. so until we -- this case goes to prosecution and all questions are answered, i think the children need to remain protected. again, the details we just don't want to disclose. >> larry: and another question. we should tell the public a trust is established for the billings' minor children. donations can be sent to crystal spencer's firm. that firm is losier, tamz, frasier & spencer, p.a., 24 west chase street, pensacola, florida, 32502. we'll put that up on our website. can you click in to get it. one more thing, most of our viewers only know byrd and melanie as the victims of a shocking crime. what were they like?

>> they were kind and loving people. from everything that i can tell they were very involved in the community, very involved with special olympics, very involved with west gate which is a special needs school in our community. very much involved with obviousobvious ly with children of special needs. so they were extremely kind and lof loving and generous parents who wanted to help people -- actually help children have a childhood. >> larry: thank you, crystal. we will be calling on you again. >> thank you. >> larry: crystal spencer, the attorney for ashley markham. stick around.

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>> larry: he's been outstandingly cooperative through this. he is sheriff david morgan. he come to us from pensacola. what's the status, david, of the investigation right this minute? >> well, we're very confident, larry, that we have the primary suspect in custody primarily i mean those of the seven people that entered that compound where the billings lived, the violent criminaled if, you will, are incarcerated. of course, our latest suspect is bonded out. but we feel very confident that during this investigation we managed to identify those that should be incarcerated and separated from decent society. they're currently residing in our jail. >> larry: what, sheriff, can you establish here was the motive? >> the state's attorneys office and i concur that the motive, the primary motive of this crime

was a home invasion and robbery. i know that sounds very complicit to many people. but that is really the motive. it was a standard robbery. i think that they had hoped to gain large amounts of cash from the home. and so that was the basic premises robbery. now we believe that during the conduct of this investigation because it is not been of course terminated yet, it won't be until we find the last person, there are other motives in this case that will come to life. >> larry: the children who were in the home at the time, have they been helpful in the investigation? >> we're -- we have been asked, larry, not to release that information due to the children's ages and conditions. and we don't want to further trauma ties them or their family. >> larry: the dea, the drug enforcement agency has become involved in this case. why? >> we've drawn in almost all of the other federal agencies, not just the dea but the fbi and the

atf. primarily what the dea has done with this investigation is not actively investigate this crime, meaning the killing of the billings family, we had developed quite a bit of information in the conduct of this investigation that pertained to the current suspects. they're known as associated and prior activities and the like. and i had both a legal and ethical obligation to pass this information along to the appropriate investigative federal agency. in this case that, agency is the dea. >> larry: therefore, rumors that the deceased was somehow involved in drugs are false? >> well, that is absolutely correct, larry. and, again, we -- we addressed that rumor today and it's come up. again, i'll restate to this listening audience that the sheriff's office has no knowledge of any investigation into the billings family involving the dea at all. >> larry: why would you guess, sheriff, that in a robbery they would brutally murder two people? why would you guess?

>> well, there could be a whole host of reasons in a robbery why individuals end up being murdered. i've used the example of simple street drug violence, though illegal, it should be a basic transaction. i pay for drugs and you transfer the drugs. but if something goes wrong in that illegal transaction if, someone tried to basically street jarring january stiff the other, kit involve into violence very, very quickly. somebody gets seriously injured or killed. so unless you were in that home and actually witnessed that incident and the actions of the participants, you know, we're only speculating and speculating why it would have devolved to the level that it did. instead, it resulted in the deaths of those two individuals. >> larry: how you are able to make arrests so quickly? >> we made arrests very quickly and i want to thank the media, your station, of course, was involved with that. we had a phenomenal outpouring of support from the media. and just could not have been better.

but people say was there luck involved? i tell them, there wasn't any luck involved in solving this case. we just had good hard old fashioned police work and cracker jack officers that worked this case. they took a bite and they hung on. our first break, of course, we got from the video surveillance tapes or video surveillance system that was not turned off in the billings compound. when that was put out over the airwaves, with all the media participating, we started getting calls on that van. and once we had identified that van from the tips we received, then it was a simple process of running back the registration and current owner. and then from that point on, the investigation just opened up. so, again, good old fashioned police work, a lot of boots on the ground, a lot of folks out knocking on doors and one lead led to another. and a little over 96 hours, the folks escambia sheriff's office had this solved. >> this one witness, is she helpful? >> she, again, is working with the state attorney's office at

this time. they're continuing to interview her under the advice of counsel as i understand. the police report was released to day as far as her participation in the crime to date. and so that's the information that i can pass on to you. she had a van that was involved in this robbery. she had knowledge of some activity after the crime had occurred. and, of course, that's why she was arrested for accessory after the fact. and her bond was, of course, lowered. but, again, she is facing pretty stiff charges, nonetheless. >> larry: thanks, sheriff, as always. thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> larry: a very cooperative sheriff david morgan, sheriff of escambia, florida. legal experts tell us how the case might be prosecuted after this. stick around. less able to absorb calcium. he recommended citracal. it's a different kind of calcium. calcium citrate. with vitamin d... for unsurpassed absorption, to nourish your bones. ♪ so blessed with inspiration ♪

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>> larry: seven men, one of them a 16-year-old, charged with the murder and killings and an eighth person faces charges of accessory after the fact. stacy honowitz is in plantation. bradford cohen is in ft. lauderdale. stacy, what do we know about the motive? >> well, you know, larry, i think it's just what you were asking the sheriff. i think a lot of people are looking at this case and thinking to themselves, fit was just the motive of simple robbery, why were seven men involved in training ninja style and planning so hard and long for something like this? so right now all we do know is the mote sieve robbery.

of course, the state attorney's office is not going to reveal a lot of factors. i think as this case comes about, and i truly believe that the woman who was charged with accessory is going to talk, in other words, she'll be the flip witness, i think we'll learn more and more about what the motive will be in this case. if there is an additional motive to robbery. >> larry: bradford, would they have one attorney? would they all be tried together? would the 16-year-old be stride separately? what's your read? >> i think they'll all be tried together, they're not going to have one attorney, obviously. it will turn out to be a conflict. i think what's going to happen is what stacy said. this realtor is going to be the flip witness. sh he is working with the state's attorney now. depending on what limited information she has, they may start offering some other of the individuals deals where they're going to start flipping on other people. and you're going to see a race to the podium here. who's going to get the deal and what kind of deal they're going to make. you know, there's a lot of things going on in term of felony murder rule and things of that nature that are going to play a part in the trial. >> larry: stacy, what's your read on this?

>> i think like everybody else. it is a bizarre case. you have two individuals that appear to be the pillars of community, such unbelievably caring people to take in children of special needs. we know how unbelievably kind that s i think people are wondering to themselves was there something deep and dark we don't know? we don't want to blame the victim in this case for anything. as far as we know, it was a robbery. but when you look at it like i said with seven trained individuals, this other woman who is involved, ninja style training, so precise and planned except for the one mistake they made, then people must be saying to themselves, i just think there has to be more. so like i said, larry, until somebody starts talking, probably the female this this case, and we're not going to know anything. maybe bits and pieces will start to come to light. >> larry: are you suspicious at all about the dea being involved? >> not generally. i mean we see that in a lot of

criminal cases where it's -- if it's a high profile case, they get fbi and dea involved. i it this sheriff explained it in saying that he thought that he found something in terms of one of the defendants that maybe the dea should be involved in. so we kind of explained that away. i don't suspect that this family had anything to do with it. who knows? you never know. but in terms of what you heard, what we know of this family, i mean they're amazing. they take in 17 kids that had no home and they're doing it all on their own. there are things that raise, you know, raise an eyebrow. there were cameras in every room. but they're saying to keep an eye on the kids. but if you're keeping an eye on the kids, why you would be recording every room in the house? so there are little things that are unusual. >> well, i mean i think can you look at that. a lot of the children were severely handicapped. i think something like that, you do need to keep a close eye. i think that's what they would say. i think also, you know, as the backgrounds of these individuals start to come out, there's going to be tenic wills.

they're all involved in something somehow to play a role. and slowly but surely we'll get to learn the backgrounds. i think that's why the dea is involved. and maybe even some other federal agencies. information is going to start to pour out, you know, at one time. >> larry: will each get a lawyer, bradford? >> yeah. absolutely. each one of them will get their own separate lawyer. they're not going to use one lawyer. it would be more onic to do that. and if they use one lawyer for all, then if one guy got a deal, the flip on his buddy, there would be an instant conflict. they all get their own lawyers. most likely, they're going to get public defenders and then maybe outside counsel appointed by the judge in terms of a wheel system or something of that nature. >> larry: stacy, is it harder to prosecute a group? >> no, i think sometimes it's a lot easier. and in this case, you know, in this case -- i hate to say the beauty of this case, but in evidentiary terms, you have a

surveillance tape. you don't have that very often in a lot of cases. that's the one saving grace in this. when you have all the guys sitting in a forum and if they decide not to consolidate the cases and tried separately, if their statements are pointing the fingers at each other, they must separate the defendants out. they have to do that. so in this case, we don't know. it's very early on. but if they're all sitting in the courtroom and you show that videotape and hear everything else, it's not that difficult. >> larry: bradford, if you were appointed, would you accept the challenge to be one of the defenders? >> this is a tough one. this is a tough case. i choose my cases on a case by case basis. i need to know more facts about this situation. i need to know more facts about the victims that are involved. as it looks right now, i mean if i was appointed by a judge, i mean that's my duty as a criminal defense attorney. i uphold the constitution as my duty. it's a tough one, though. this was -- this is a tough case. especially in terms of the facts. >> larry: we'll have you both on again very soon. stacy honowitz, florida assistant state attorney and bradford cohen, criminal defense

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>> larry: a brazil yab jude yoe star who won the bronze medal at the '84 olympics in athens has transcended sport with service to the community. he created an organization that helps children living in the slums in rio. we asked him what motivated him. >> i think probably because of my city, the city where i was raised, it's a very unique city of richness and poverty live side by side. not like other major cities

where poverty lives far away from the richest neighborhoods. i think that helped me a lot to open my eyes. and i grew up always thinking i should do something. and then i was 25, about nine years ago, i began teaching jude yoe in one of the biggest valleys of latin america. and after a few months, i thought the kids were improving at school. they were getting better relationship at home with people around. and i realized i had a powerful tool at my hands. >> larry: how does the institute work? what does it do in rio? >> we use judo and the principles and values to work with their empowerment and then we take them to different programs, educational programs and cultural programs. but the main interest to the project is judo and its values.

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evidence, the new clues about the brutal murder you've been talking about, melanie and byrd billings in florida. woehr learning more about the alleged mastermind and attack. he is used to practice commando style raids in his own backyard. we'll talk to the sheriff about the case. and president obama giving a powerful speech on race in america, taking a tough stance, urging to end racial discrimination and other forms of discrimination. we'll bring you the president in his own words and the latest in the michael jackson investigation. will jackson's kids end up with janet jackson? and are they now practicing gentlemen hoef is witnesses. >> larry: the always interesting anderson cooper and "ac 360." hard to believe but ten years ago tonight, john f. kennedy jr. was killed when the single-engine plane he was piloting crashed into the atlantic. the crash also claimed the lives of john's wife, carolyn bessette kennedy and her sister lori.

a close friend of the late j.f.k. joins us now and she is going to share some private photos and letters documenting their friendship. that will be in the july 20th edition ofbissette and her sister. there's a special gallery of images too on people.com. how did you come to know him, kasha? >> we met when we were first students in 11th grade at boarding school. >> larry: really? >> yes. >> larry: what was he like growing up? >> well, when he was young, he was just really very warm, fun, very sweet, affectionate, friendly. so we hit it off fast. we were both new at the same time there as two new students. we ended up having overlapping schedules. i went from class to class and there was john and there was john and there was john. a few months later, we were just close friends and ended up

staying that way, our lives. >> larry: how did this photo thing begin? >> the photo thing beg with hi friend martin cribbs from six degrees. he met john a few times over the years and knew about all my images of john. he kind of convinced me that this was a great time to pay tribute. they are beautiful photos. people aren't used to seeing john in this way at all. he was never photographed this way, candidly. he felt it would be a great thing for me to do. he convinced me and i agreed to do it. >> larry: brilliant. jfk jr. was a guest in september of 1995 on this show. he talked about photographs, memories and family. watch. things that have always fascinated us, that famous picture which you must have receive 7 zillion times, the bill loy. do you remember that? >> you see an image so many

times you sort of remember the image but i'm not sure i really do. >> larry: but probably memories of your father are not great. >> they're great but they're not plentiful. >> larry: or of your uncle robert, right? >> they're more vivid of him. >> larry: you were how old when he died? >> 8. >> larry: that's a vivid memory to you. >> fairly. he was a vivid character, a forceful presence. >> larry: was he involved in raising you, too? >> at times. i mean, raising many of us, all of us, really if our family. teddy and bobby really, i mean, one of the things they really took great interest in was the family and the cousins and making kind of a sense of community, especially in the summertime. so, you know, i saw a good bit of bobby. >> larry: that still exists, that togetherness in the kennedys? >> yes. >> larry: it doesn't go away, right? >> it's one of the great, lucky things about being in my family.

>> larry: you had dinner with john in manhattan a week before his death. you said you remember what he said about his future. what did he say? >> he said a lot of different things that night. one of the things that stuck with me, he turned to me and we had spent a lot of time, i spent memorial day weekend with him, july fourth, my family, all of us together. we'd been together for days and days with the kids. we had such a great time. he turned to me and said i really want to have a child. and i never -- i just never forgot that, of course, because that was the last time i would see him and it planted that memory in me that he must have -- he would have been such a great father. he would have been such a lovely father. >> larry: great. >> nice to hear stories on this thing. >> larry: we'll be mack with more of sasha. her pictures will be in the july 20th edition of "people" and

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this is cnn breaking news. >> larry: we're back. more breaking news from indonesia. ap now reporting a second bombing, this at a marriott hotel in jakarta. earlier we told you about an explosion that tore through another hotel, the ritz-carlton. police have sealed off the area around the blast which occurred at the ritz-carlton. the facade of that hotel has been completely blown off. four people called foreigners in the ap story are reported dead.

anderson cooper will have more in three minutes on "ac 360." did john ever talk about dying? >> no, not really. he really enjoyed life. he was very, very spirited. no. i wouldn't say that he was a fatalist. >> larry: i asked him about his future and politics back in '95. watch. and the obvious, your own interest in politics. you write about it, raised in a family that lives off it and on it and through it and with it. what about you? >> well, obviously, as i said, i grew up in a family where we were saturated with politics. and i have -- i've lost count, five or so relatives in politics now. i like not being in politics. i like the proximity to it that a magazine like this affords me. but i'm clearly fascinated, i

think it gives you a view on large issues of the day that few other professions do. how can you not be thrilled by it? >> larry: thrilled enough to someday want to run? >> well, you know, i mean -- >> larry: logical? >> i get asked that. when you -- a public career is a lot to bite off. you better be ready for it, have your life set up for it and be prepared to do it for the long haul. that's the nature of the thing is that you stay in it. whether it's seniority in the house or the senate. i mean, i had some other interests and other sort of things that i was eager to do. and, you know, the old definition of politics was that you bring it at the end of your life when you have something to sort of offer. maybe that's a good thing for me. >> larry: sasha, you think he'd have gone into it? >> i think it would have been something he would have had to consider over and over again and probably, you know -- who knows,

right? we can guess what john would have done. i would have supported anything he would have done. he would have been great at whatever. >> larry: did you -- did he enjoy your pictures? >> yes, sure. you can see in some of them he's holding my children. he never posed for people publicly. he never did a photo shoot. it was just paparazzi or his photographs when he posed for "george" when he was doing publicity. i think there was a tender spot. he could really be himself. you can see in some of my pictures he's comfortable. you see the joy and love in his expressions. they're emotional. they have a lot of content in him, to see his character. >> larry: can you believe it's ten years? >> no. it's really wizzed by.