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troubled home. a poor neighbor he'd and a strong faith. ♪ you know me good evening, tonight, breaking news. what police found when they r d raided michael jackson's doctor's office. the controversy over the arrest of harvard professor henry lewis gates jr. the police sergeant who arrested the professor speaking out about what president obama said last night. the president is speaking out again today. jeffrey cannon, soledad o'brien from "black in america 2" along with naacp president. we begin with the breaking news. randi kaye with information about dr. conrad murray. >> i'm holding in my hand the search warrants filed today at houston district court. these show exactly what was taken from the clinic belonging to dr. conrad murray.
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that, as you know, is jackson's personal physician with him the day he died at his house. we reported last night that the clinic was searched. tonight, we can tell you that wasn't the only place. we can tell you a second search warrant was also served not at the clinic but at a private storage unit belonging to dr. conrad murray. warrants say they're seeking information and evidence of the offense of manslaughter. there a long list of items taken we want to tell you about. all inside here including notices from the irs, rolodex cards and drugs that may raise eyebrows. much more on these warrants, what's in them and how that might affect the investigation in a few minutes. the policeman, the professor and president of the united states and the continuing controversy. cambridge, massachusetts, police sergeant arresting henry lewis gates jr. inside the professor's home. was race a factor? or did tempers flare? did professor gates provoke the sergeant? if he did, is that cause for
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arrest? hotly debated at this hour. last night president obama saying the police acted stupidly. the blogs, talk radio erupting today. reaction from the sergeant, his boss and more from the president. plenty to talk about. a nation divided. first, joe johns with the fact. >> reporter: everyone it seems is weighing in on the story of harvard professor henry lewis gates' arrest for disorderly conduct. everyone including the president. >> the cambridge police acted stupidedly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. >> reporter: that was last night. the president had to reel that comment back in a bit today with his press secretary saying the president, quote, was not calling the officer stupid. he was denoting at a certain point the situation got far out of hand. mr. obama talked about it again today on an interview on abc. >> the sergeant who was involved is an outstanding police
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officer, but my suspicion is probably that it would have been better -- >> reporter: the president didn't comment about the racial overtones in the case. professor gates certainly is. gates, who is a friend of the president claims he was the target of racial profiling. he's demanding an apology. >> what it made me realize was how vulnerable all black men are. how vulnerable all people of color are and all poor people to forces like a rogue policeman. this man clearly was a rogue police. >> reporter: the guy who arrested gates, cambridge police sergeant, james crowley is speaking out, too, saying the arrest didn't have anything to do with race. when asked last night by wfxt whether he would apologize to gate, he said, forget it. >> is this never an apology? what if it means discipline or your job? >> it won't. i have the support of my
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organization. >> reporter: as far as the president goes, crowley said in a weei radio interview that mr. obama didn't have all the facts. >> he's the president of the united states. i support the president to a point. i guess. i think it's disappointing that he waded into what should be a local issue. >> reporter: turns out crowley's got a good resume. he was hand picked by a black police commissioner to teach classes on racial profiling at a police academy. as far as the gates case goes, the disorderly conduct case was dropped. the mayor wants to make sure nothing like this ever happens again. the cambridge police commissioner who expressed support of how crowley conducted himself says his department is launching an investigation and is not happy about all the attention. >> this department is deeply pained and takes its professional pride seriously. >> reporter: the talk of a national debate over race and the police. joe johns, cnn, washington.
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lot to talk about. let's dig deeper with roland martin and dr. watkins, a finance professor at syracuse university every aand author of if george bush was a black man?" >> it's not surprising what skip gates went through is -- >> do you believe this was a rogue police officer? >> i cannot say he was a rogue police officer. i cannot say he was racist. i don't know anything about him or his background. what we have to recognize is, what does the individual who is going through it, what are they experiencing? here you are, african-american, homeowner, in your home. white cop looking for a suspect. provides your evidence. i'm the owner of the home. i'm still considered a suspect, if you will. so you have that dynamic. so you ask yourself, what was the position he was in, what was he feeling? i'm the homeowner and feeling as
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if i'm still a suspect. that's what he was speaking to. >> what do you think? >> well, i think that what we have to do which is what i've been saying from the beginning is we need to know the facts before we go and accuse someone of doing something that might ultimately ruin their career. imagine if you're a guy like sergeant crowley, had an exemplary career, taught classes as an expert on racial profiling and get accused of this. i'm a friend of skip gates, roland. i support president obama. i said, well, what happened? then i went and interviewed several police officers and said, what's the standard procedure when you investigate a breaking and entering? i found out a lot of things the public doesn't know. because you show an i.d. showing you belong many the house that doesn't mean you belong there. one-third of women murdered are kid by a former lover and many of the men break into their own home to violate a restraining
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order. it means there's more to things than meet the eye. >> anderson, standard procedure. massachusetts law states when a citizen requests the name and badge number of the cop they are to give it. gates is saying he requested that. the sergeant would not give it to him. >> that's not what the police report says. the police report says the sergeant attempted to give him the information but the professor spoke over him. >> the police report is the perspective of the police officer. it is his perspective. it's not infallible. it's not the absolute truth. he has a perspective. gates has one. it's important to recognize there are two views as to what happened in this case. >> it is up of those situations where there are two diametrically opposed standards. the professor believes he has been wronged and is in the right and clearly the police officer believes that what he did was standard procedure. >> well, i think what we have to do as the american public, we've
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got to distinguish between the facts that are clear and fuzzy. there are things that are clear. we know he was there, a dialogue and a back and forth. we don't know what happened inside the house. i'm not accusing skip of being a liar or anything like that. when you make a strong accusation to say this guy was racially profiling, the officer could say, maybe you were racially profiling me by saying because i'm a white man arresting you i must be doing it because you're a black man in america. we've got to hold diametric accountability on this. we can't say every white officer who arrests a black man must be racist. >> i want to continue this discussion on the other side of this commercial break. be right back. a lot more to cover in the hour ahead. let e us know what you think. live chat is under way at ac 360.com. a lot of people logging on about this. breaking news. jackson developments. chilling look at michael jackson's state of mind and body in final days and hours. that peephole video of espn's erin andrews.
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talking tonight at policing, racial profiler, professors and how it gets more attention when the first african-american president of the united states talks about it on national television. president obama acknowledging racial profiling is a problem but not attributing professor greats rearrest to that. the cambridge police officer reacting today. >> we were deeply concerned. we take -- we take our professional pride very deeply. i think -- when i talked through the officers throughout the department during the course of the day you could see they were really stunned by being -- not having the greatest regard or actually taking those comment to
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heart. i would say to you that they were very much deflated. >> commissioner haas announcing a panel to investigate the incident but standing business his force. president obama walking back from the stupiddy line saying cooler heads should have prevailed. let's dig deeper with roland marker and professor watkins. it seems like the officer believed professor gates lived in the house and that was his house. and, yet, the fact professor gates was clearly upset with the officer and says things to him seemed to irritate the officer or move the officer to basically get gates out of the house and arrest him there. >> well, if you want to tick off a police officer, what you say is, i want your name and your badge number. we all know that. now, perfect example of how two people can see the same thing that different way. prior to going to break, we said, facts are clear, some are fuzzy. when he spoke on the police
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officer's account, he implied those police were clear. when he spoke of what gates -- >> no, i did not. >> i'm making a point here. one second. this is how i invert it. his bergs of the events were fuzzy. the officer gave an account of what took place. gates has given interviewes to "washington post" explaining what happened as well. two people can see it differently the same actually story. >> i want you to talk about your remarks. should a police officer, if he believed that gates -- that was gates' house, even if gates was yelling at him or saying something to him that the officer didn't like, should the officer had just walked away and let it go with that, rather than arresting him for disorderly conduct on his own property? >> well, my question, when all this happened was when i spoke to the officers and talked to them.
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i have respect for law enforcement, but i've also felt diligently on behalf of black men who are victims of this racism over the country. i was concerned about this case. one of the things i asked him, i said, what's the procedure? you know, did this guy follow procedure? when you saw that the police officers' union stepped out and supported him and said we looked at the prude year and this guy did what he was supposed to do. the cops could have remained silent. if he were a dirty or irresponsible cop or rogue cop they wouldn't have supported him. >> rarely, rarely remain silent. come on. >> no, no. that's not true. look, apderson, my dad was a cop 28 years. i've seen the bad and i've seen the good. the truth is we have to pursue equality while maintaining a compassionate understanding of what officers go through. there are good cops in america. every white cop who arrests a black man is not corrupt. what has to happen in my opin n
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opinion, we don't need to use this case as a peter child for racial profiling. we need to realize this is an issue. >> we're going to have to leave it there. interesting discussion. thank you very much. the conversation continues online at ac360.com. join the live chat. let us know what you think. debate can get heated when race enters the question. many of the facts from as many angles as possible. raw data on racial profile. scope and extent of efforts to reform it. >> government concern about racial profiling all over this country has risen sharply in the past ten years. new jersey, courts found minority drivers were stopped on minor traffic charges so officers could check for drugs, weapons, bigger crimes. look at how the concern has spread. r.a.n. corporation, think tank in d.c., womhich deals with
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security issues created this map. every one of these dark blue states has a law requiring police to record whom they're stopping and why and the person's race to tell if any officers in the department are unfairly targeting certain ethnic groups. all of these light blue states are collecting such data by choice, not by law. there are a few others that there's no data collected on. in all, 23 states banned profiling including mths ths up here where this is happening in this big incident. one thing that is clear here, we don't know how many incidents of profiling occur every year because as you're learning here, it's difficult to define precisely what is profiling, when it's taking place and if you can prove it. >> you can pass the law banning it. has this -- has passing these laws done anything to ease suspicions in the minority communities about profiling? >> i think your conversation is
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making that clear. it really hasn't, at least not yet, for a lot of people. in one of our polls back in may, i want you to take a look at this. we asked people, do you think racial discrimination is a serious problem, somewhat serious, not a serious problem? whites said, a very serious problem. only 17% thought so. blacks thought 55%. just as important. look at this next poll. this is telling. cbs/"the new york times" poll. had to do with the question when people are stopped by the police. did you ever feel you were stopped by the police because of your race? down here whites say only 7% felt that way. 43% of blacks feel that way. this is notably less than a majority but still a very high number and a measure of how serious this problem is still being seen. people feeling that they're being targeted by the police because of race. ahead, breaking news into the investigation of michael jackson's death. what police found inside
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jackson's doctor officest office. details about the star's final days revealed in "rolling stones" magazine. claire hoffman wrote the story. she'll join us. text your question to ac 360. 22360. most trusted man in america remembered. family, friends and colleagues gathering to say good-bye to cbs newsman, walter cronkite. that help protect the health of your heart, eyes and bones. age-adjusted centrum silver. and now get centrum silver in a new smaller tablet formula.
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federal agents took in that raid of the clinic. we begin with the raw politics. president obama taking his health care message to ohio today where he told a town hall meeting he's okay with congress not meeting his deadline to pass a reform bill as long as they're working. raw and dirty politics meantime in new jersey where mayors of three cities, two state assemblymen and five rabbis are more than 40 people arrested in a sweeping federal corruption investigation. the bust began as a probe into an international money laundering ring. there was trafficking in everything from human organs into fake designer handbags. family, friends and colleagues today paying tribute to walter cronkite. he was remembered as a great newsman, sailor, friend and father. at the funeral service held at st. bartholomew's church in manhattan. cronkite died on friday. he was 92, anderson.
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we have details of the police raid of dr. conrad murray's office in houston. tonight we know exactly what investigators found. randi kaye joins us. you've been going through the search warrants found today in houston. what did you find? >> they were looking for anything they could get their hands on. there were two search warrants filed late today. one raid took place at dr. murray's medical clinic, the other at a storage unit he has in the houston area. here are some of the things they seized at the clinic. rolodex card with fedex information which could mean they're trying to track if drugs were fedexed out of state. possibly, what drugs and who they may have been sent to. they took personal e-mails and drugs, including one vial of centermine which is a weight loss drug and one vial of medicine used to reduce anxiety and used to sleep. detectives seized, among other things, from the storage unit, irs documents, a suspension notice from doctor hospitals, two hard drives and a registration for controlled substances.
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what all this mean in zeroing in on dr. murray is unclear. authorities are looking for evidence related to manslaughter and they may interview dr. murray a third time as early as tomorrow, anderson. >> randi has more coming up on the investigation into jackson's death. she's going to show us what she's learned about jackson's paranoia and explain why he thought someone was trying to kill him. also ahead, jackson's final days. "rolling stone" magazine has an inside look. text us your questions to the authwuthor of the article, clai hoffman. that's ac 360. erin andrews, videotaped naked in her hotel room. how it happened and a look at how vulnerable almost anyone is.
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you spoke with dick gregory, a friend of michael jackson. what did he say? >> he's a comedian, good friend of michael jackson. they met many, many years ago. decades ago when they were doing "the wiz" together. he told me jackson's parents called him and said michael wasn't well, can he come and help him. a few days before the trial ended, dick gregory told me he went back to neverland with michael jackson, jackson hugged him and said, quote, please don't leave me. they're trying to kill me. gregory said he asked jackson when the last time he ate was and that jackson told him, quote, they're trying to poison me. he asked him when he last drank water and jackson told him again, quote, they're trying to kill me. he wasn't drinking or eating anything. >> so what did gregory do? >> he tried to help him as quickly as he could. he insisted jackson go to the hospital. he was paranoid that someone was after him. he drove him to a small hospital about ten miles or so away from neverland without announcing that he was coming. gregory told me that jackson was given fluids to hydrate him from
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5:30 in the evening until 5:30 in the morning the next day. so for 24 hours straight, the doctor told him, quote, 12 more hour and he would have been dead. he was that dehydrated. >> that was after the trial. did gregory stay in touch with him over the last couple years? >> he did. he said actually the last time he saw him -- he didn't see him for a little while but he saw him again at singer james brown's funeral. that would have been in december 2006. we have pictures of him. that's them hugging right there. at the funeral. he hugged him and michael jackson looked well. i asked gregory if he ever saw michael jackson do drugs. he said, no. he said when they used to spend a lot of time together, years ago, jackson wouldn't even drink soda. he was always particular about what he put in his body. he summed up his old friend this way, to me he's always been a little 5-year-old child in a grown man's body. that's what he said. he felt that michael jackson needed someone to take care of him. he didn't trust those around him who he says were pretending to take care of him.
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>> "rolling stone" has a new article on the final hours and weeks of jackson's life. it contains new information. claire hoffman is the contributing editor who wrote the cover story. she joins us now. randi is going to stay with us as well. claire, one of the things that stuck out in this article was that apparently, according to you or your sources, la toya jackson after michael jackson died basically rushed over to the house, trying to take stuff. what happened? >> there were numerous reports that she went over to the house, within a day of him dying, and looked for these bags of cash that he was known to keep around the house in duffel bags. >> and you also write that with regard to the number of shows that jackson was scheduled to do, you say he wanted to do the number he agreed to do, not only because randy phillips from aeg wanted that to make the money but there was a runway rivalry that he believed he had with prince. how did that come about? >> right. i feel one of the misconceptions
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of michael jackson that i've gotten from reading about him, and before i started reporting this is he was this sort of passive person in his life. and my sense after reporting the story is quite the opposite. he was very particular, very controlling about what he did. one of the things that he wanted was to have 31 nights at the 02 arena because prince had done 21 and he was interested in busting prince by ten. >> that ultimately went up to 50. randi, that might surprise people. the image that jackson is fiercely competitive but that jives with some of your sources. >> it does. we spoke with aeg. they told us, that's the promoter for the concert tours, you know. two things michael jackson insisted on, he agreed to do the tour and the 50 shows in the end was a country estate because he would be in the london area for a long time and wanted a place for his kids. so they wouldn't have to be trapped in the hotel room. and that also insisted that someone from the guinness book of world records be at that 50th
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show. he wanted this to go big. he wanted someone to make a record of it. he wanted people to know he did something wonderful here. >> claire, as we've been reporting the investigation seems to be focusing on dr. conrad murray. you write that jackson was defensive about having dr. murray around. you quote jackson. i quote, my body is a mechanism. like president obama i need my own personal physician attending to me 24/7. did you talk to people around him? what did they think about murray? >> you know, they didn't see a lot of murray. he didn't go out of the house a lot with him. it seemed like he was sort of part of jackson's very private life at home. but the people who, you know, who did experience him, like first of all, they found it suspicious that murray had originally asked for a million dollars a month to treat jackson, which is just, you know, highway robbery even for michael jackson. they got him down to $150,000 a month. but even that, that kind number just doesn't really jive with the sense of somebody who's really out there to take care of you.
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>> randi, we have a text 360 question, it comes from arkansas. where has dr. conrad murray been since the raid? we really haven't seen him at all. >> no, he's been holed up, really. he has a body guard 24/7. apparently his lawyer says he's been so harassed, he can't go to work, he can't go to his clinics. he has two clinics, one in heinz and one in las vegas. as of yesterday, his lawyer said he was in las vegas at the time. but is he going to work? we don't know. is he treating patients? we just don't know. >> another interesting detail, claire, that michael jackson had an ebay -- addiction is a strong word. but he would spend a lot of time on ebay buying things. >> i got the sense that people saw michael jackson as this nocturnal creature. i think he suffered from insomnia. one of the things he would do alone at night is set up these different ebay accounts and buy a bunch of stuff. >> fascinating. the article is in "rolling stone."
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thanks for being with us. randi kaye as well. thanks very much. a lot more in the hour ahead. go to ac360.com to read an excerpt of the "rolling stone" article on jackson's last days. we want to know what you think of the jackson death investigation. join the live chat at ac360.com. up next, the peeping tom and the reporter. who videotaped erin andrews naked in her hotel room? this could happen to anyone. you never know. later, "black in america 2," the new challengers. how one educator is turning his sights on ending childhood obesity. elp me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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tonight, a sports reporter is fighting back after someone secretly videotaped her in the nude. the recording and story has spread across the internet. erin andrews and the network she works for, espn, believes she's the victim of a peeping tom. trying to make money by invoiding her privacy. the question is, who would do this to her? insiders think the culprit may not be a stranger. erica hill has the latest. >> reporter: erin andrews commands attention, young, beautiful, a sideline reporter, covering college football, basketball and major league baseball for espn. but now, she is the story. thanks to video of her naked in a hotel room. taped without her knowledge and posted online. internet security experts parry aftab isn't surprised. >> everyone has video technology in their cell phone cameras.
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>> any of us can watch at any time. >> reporter: when, where and how the hotel video of andrews was made isn't clear. some reports say it may have been shot through the hotel door's peephole. private investigator allen dressler says it's certainly possible. a few years ago he used cameras like this. now thanks to ever-shrinking technology, he can hide one almost anywhere. the most disturbing thing about this is how easy it could be. maybe someone used the peephole, maybe drilled a hole in your wall or maybe someone snuck in your hotel room and put a clock in with a tiny peephole camera like this one. it can record your every move and you have no idea. is this as small as it gets? >> no. this isn't even -- they even get smaller than this. >> reporter: how long does it take to set up a small, little pinhole camera if you were
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trying to tape someone in a hotel room? 30 minutes, 5 minutes? >> it could be two minutes. all you have to do is get in there, plug it in and get out. >> reporter: erin andrews isn't commenting. both her attorney and espn issued strongly worded statements, promising legal action once the person or persons responsible are found. they're also targeting the websites and media outlets who post or show any of the video. today, espn announced it would no longer use reporters from "the new york post" on its air, after the paper printed still pictures from the video. for some of those who do manage to find the link, a nasty surprise may be waiting in the form of a computer virus. and as for theories the video was leaked by andrews herself, friends say it would never happen. >> erin is very conservative. she's very modest. you've never seen her in lingerie in the magazines. you've never heard her flirting with the idea of posing naked in "playboy." so there was no way this was intentional. >> reporter: whoever is responsible may not be able to hide for long.
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>> we leave a trail of cyber bread crumbs behind us wherever we are online. i have no question in my mind this person is going to be caught. >> reporter: i did hear back from erin andrews' attorney earlier this evening. no more information on who, when or how she was taped. but he did tell me, there's no reason to believe she was ever taped anywhere else while alone or working. >> even if thor. or persons are caught, there's no way of preventing this from happening again. >> it's not. there are things you can look out for. if you're in a hotel room, cover the peephole with masking tape. when you use your laptop, disable the webcam. by opening your laptop somebody could take control of your webcam. >> that's crazy. i had no idea. >> if your internet connection you can get a trojan horse and they can then control it. that's a quick thing you can do. trust your gut. if you feel like somebody is watching you, they probably are. set up a google alert. your name, draerks phone number, any names associated with you.
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very easy to do at google. you'll get an e-mail any time any of those things are mentioned online. >> i don't know if i want that. digging deeper on cnn's "black in america" two contributor. we'll sit down with ground breaking educator, jeffrey canada. we'll also talk to president and ceo of the naacp, ben jealous. and also coming up, the bride's first dance began before jason said i do. athe betr all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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playing field. now he's taking on another challenge. listen. >> reporter: it takes more than $64 million a year to run the harlem children's zone. canada gets a third from government funding and the rest, about $40 million, comes from private donations. >> what are we learning about? >> you're such an active little guy. >> reporter: exhibit "a," the zone's promise academy charter school. >> these are our fourth graders. >> reporter: this year's fourth grade class is special. all the kids have been in the zone's pipeline since birth. >> i am convinced that this particular class is the smartest class, not only at promise academy, but probably in all of new york state. >> reporter: canada has the numbers to prove it. math and english scores that beat new york city and state averages and a new harvard study that concludes that these promise academy students have closed the achievement gap
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between black and white students' test scores. now he wants to bring that success to another crisis affecting black america. obesity. >> we have folks who are dieing from strokes and heart attack, who are losing limbs because of diabetes. it's all fitness and nutrition. we feel like we've got to get our kids really focused on this issue because they are heavy and we need these kids to lose weight. >> jeffrey canada, naacp, ben jealous, and soledad o'brien. we know you're an educator and we want to talk about that. but why focus on obesity? >> in some communities like harlem, you can find potato chips, cupcakes, honey buns and sugared water. you cannot find a banana or you cannot find a decent apple. you can't find broccoli, fresh vegetables.
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they're called food deserts. you can't simply find healthy food. fast food constantly. we have an epidemic in the african-american community of obesity. it's killing african-americans at very early ages. >> and does your program work? i mean, we've seen -- it's basically a competition in the center program one of the young women you interviewed clearly was fueled by desire to win and she did win. her team won. they got to go to disney land. does it work? >> you know, we were trying an experiment because we had been struggling with this issue for years. we were trying to figure out how do we motivate the children and the parents to really develop habits? what we're trying to do is get these kids to develop habits. about a third of our kids actually lost weight. for young people who are growing taller, you expect them to put on weight. we feel like this is promising. we don't think we have the answer but we think we've seen the first glimmer of hope. now we have to do it for a second year and third year and we have to scale it up and got not just our 60 or 70 kids, we have to get hundreds of kids to do it.
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then i'll say i think we have the answer. >> ben, there's been talk an the changing role of naacp as its celebrates its 100th anniversary this year. >> we have to focus on the fight for good schools, good jobs, for safe neighborhoods for all people. you know, we thought for a good 50, 60 years for all kids to go to the same school. now too often it's the same bad school. we need all kids to go to the same good school. that means we have to extend the social contract in new ways. >> soledad, you focus in this episode on really exceptional people who are achieving remarkable things. >> geoff canada. >> personal hero of mine. we've had him on this program before. >> i can't tell you the number of people who have said that. geoff canada is my personal hero.
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i don't believe it. i don't believe it. >> what do you think they all have in common? >> i think what i have seen in the number of people we got to profile is they took what was a job and they ran with that and made it passion and then they made it a commitment. almost like a calling. it's so much more than a job. it is this obsessive calling to serve something greater than themselves. to decide that the children who they interact with, the people that they serve, are going to be as dear to them as their own flesh and blood. truly. not even sort of metaphorically, but truly, literally as same to them as their own actual children. you saw that yesterday with dr. perry, la compton rocke. the patients mean as much to them as their own family members do. i think, for me, it was in order to have success in the community as a whole, we have to kind of treat each other like that. we're all in the same boat. one portion of the community cannot fail and the rest of us are fine. it just won't work.
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>> can the success, though, geoff that you've seen in the harlem's children zone that you've created, be replicated? that's the knock on it. everyone says you're getting tens of millions of dollars in private donations and government funds every year. it's incredibly expensive. not everyone can afford that. >> now that the president has said they're going to use for federal dollars to pay for half of this, we think the fund-raising challenge is going to be really reduced across america. look, this can be replicated. people keep pretending that there is a genius idea that we came up with that other people haven't thought about. i learned about how to do this back in the '70s. we were talking about comprehensive services. we know if a child is hungry, if he had lousy teeth and they're rotting in his mouth. they're not going to learn algebra. this is just basic stuff. quality schools are holding adults accountable. there's no secret source to this. other people can do it. you just have to do what soledad said. people have to treat these children as if they're their own.
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when something happens to my own kid, i will do whatever i need to do to make sure that child learns. that's what we have to do for other people's children we work with. >> i hope i'm not revealing a confidence but at one point i got an e-mail from dr. steve perry, he said i'm going to meet with geoff canada. i need him to explain to me how i expand my school, which we profiled yesterday. how i take it from just being fixing education to -- it's not enough. you've got to fix the community. how do you expand that? >> how do you do that? as we learned from principal perry last night, a lot of times the parents don't show up to the board meetings, to the pta meetings. >> you've got to get focused, not just from the power of me, but the power of we. we have to show people that we can't solve these crises and that we can do it, you know, as a group. it's not enough to have big, pretty flowers like the harlem zone.
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we've got to have a full healthy lawn. we have 1.2 million kids in the charter schools, 48 million in the schools across this country. you know, that's the challenge. geoff is one my heroes but he and i both know that the challenge is, how do we get from these flowers to a complete garden? that's going to take the power of we. >> how do you get parents to come? >> look, first of all, i was so happy to see that the parents wouldn't come because that just means he's working with the right parents, he's working with the tough parents. if i start something and all the parents come right away, i'm in the wrong community. right? i really want to work with the most difficult parents. so we do everything to get our parents there. we will go out and get the parents, same way we were picking up the children. you saw them picking them up in the morning. i love that. that's what you have to do. you have to do that with parents. parents know we will harass them at the harlem children's zone.
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we will knock at their door in the morning, evenings and afternoon and say, look, we need you to do this. i think they're right. we've got to scale this up. we also have to help one another. i'm so happy to be meeting with dr. perry. that's a young man who i think is going to show us that what we're doing is primitive in comparison to what he's going to be doing 15 years from now as we leave these clear footprints about how to do this work. >> thanks very much. another great episode. >> thank you. >> ben jealous, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. stick around. at the top of the hour, part of an encore of cnn's "black in america 2." people using ground breaking solutions to change the african-american experience. first, an nfl star quarterback accused of sexual assault. help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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♪ >> apparently -- >> this is real? >> apparently. married in st. paul, minnesota, last month. apparently it may be a new trend. there was the whole thing last year or the year before of people putting together the elaborate dances for their reception. doing the whole thing from "dirty dancing." why wait until the reception, when you can get the party started at the ceremony? >> people would have their entire reception like an episode of "dirty dancing?" >> no, it was one dance. it's not like there are people saying "nobody puts baby in the corner." you have to draw the line somewhere. >> if you promise never to put baby in the corner. >> moments of the movie probably not appropriate for their wedding reception. just a thought. >> my memor
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