tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 25, 2009 1:00am-2:00am EDT
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"raising sextuplets," "we" tv." thank you for letting us be a part of your life. they are beautiful kids. congratulations. >> thank you, dr. drew. >> i want to thank larry for letting me sit in and his staff for making this a wonderful experience. larry, thank you personally. now it is time for "ac 360." anderson? good evening, tonight the amazing possibility that the racially charged politically explosive hotly argued story of a professor, police officer and the president of the united states might end over beers at the white house. that is not how it began. harvard's henry lewis gates jr. arrested in his cambridge home after heated words with the white police officer crowley. president obama said cambridge police acted stupidedly and the controversy grew. police officers stood up in support of officer crowley then this afternoon president obama walked into the white house briefing room. >> i wanted to address you guys directly because over the last
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day-and-a-half obviously there has been all sorts of controversy over the incident that happened in cambridge with professor gates and the police department there. i actually just had a conversation with sergeant jim crowley, the officer involved. and i have to tell you that, as i said yesterday, my impression of him was that he was an outstanding police officer and a good man. and that was confirmed in the phone conversation and i told him that. and because this has been ratcheting up and i obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up, i wanted to make clear that in my choice of words, i think i, unfortunately, gave an impression that i was maligning the cambridge police department or sergeant crowley specifically and i could have worded that
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differently. i told this to sergeant crowley. i continue to believe based on what i have heard that there was an overreaction in pulling professor gates out of his home to the station. i also continue to believe based on what i heard that professor gates probably overreacted as well. my sense is you've got two good people in a circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in the way that it should have been resolved and the way they would have liked it to be resolved. so to the extent my choice of words didn't illuminate was rather contributed to more media frenzy, i think that was unfortunate. what i would like to do then is
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make sure everybody steps back for a moment, recognizes that these are two decent people, not extrapolate too much from the facts, but as i said at the press conference, be mindful of the fact that because of our history, because of the difficulties of the past, you know, african-americans are sensitive to these issues and even when you've got a police officer who has a fine track record on racial sensitivity, interactions between police officers and the african-american community can sometimes be fraught with misunderstanding. my hope is that as a consequence of this event this ends up being what's called a teachable moment, where all of us, instead
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of pumping up the volume, spend a little more time listening to each other and try to focus on how we can generally improve relations between police officers and minority communities and instead of flinging accusations, we can all be a little more reflective in terms of what we can do to contribute to more unity. lord knows we need it right now because over the last two days as we've discussed this issue, i don't know if you've noticed, but nobody has been paying much attention to health care. one last point i guess i would make, there are some who would say that as president i shouldn't have stepped into this at all because it's a local issue. i have to tell you that that part of it i disagree with. the fact that this has become such a big issue, i think, is indicative of the fact that, you know, race is still a troubling
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aspect of our society. whether i were black or white, i think that me commenting on this and hopefully contributing to constructive as opposed to negative understandings about the issue, is part of my portfolio. >> late reaction from professor gates. the professor e-mailing cnn's don lemon. he writes, "i was very pleased the president called me today and proposed that i meet with officer crowley at the white house. " the professor adding, i'm eeg r for this to be used as a teaching moment to improve racial relations in america. sergeant crowley said he would come to the white house for a beer with the professor. in a few minutes we will talk one-on-one with an officer on the scene. an african-american officer. we're joined by political analyst, roland martin and
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author of "what if george bush were a black man." also on the phone, seen your analyst, david gergen. what professor gates did not say is about what the president said said gates overreacted just as crowley overreacted? >> that's a good point, anderson. i talked with charles ogletree, professor at the harvard law school representing skip gates. i talked to him tonight. they applauded the president, indeed, because they had been seeking for the last couple of days calling out cambridge officials to see if they could set up a peace summit. they leave it there. i must tell you from my perspective and i think i hear in between the lines perhaps from theirs. there is some disappointment and surprise that in making this very generous and wise statement the president did make today, and he indeed deserves credit for that, trying to defuse the situation, walking it back, walking back his own statement,
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at the same time he did create an equivalent between the police officer and skip gates as if they were both equally wrong. and, of course, if you are a black man in america who has been arrested like that, you sort of think you have been badly violated. i was surprised at that. as much as i applaud the president for trying to bring reconciliation, it still seems inappropriate that he was handcuffed and called off like that from his own house. >> roland, the president not wanting to say i'm sorry. essentially, today, wasn't this an apology? >> no, it wasn't an apology. he made it perfectly clear in terms of reiterating his excellent on the arrest. that's how this thing went off. when he made the comment about stupidly arresting gates after proving he was the homeowner. critics of the president said he
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called the cop stupid, he called crowley stupid. he never did. that's how it began. he said, look, you have to recognize we still have this issue of racial profiling. we have differences in terms of how we look at various things. there is no doubt crowley says i wasn't approaching this because of race. you have gates who is saying i'm hearing something and experiencing something different. when the president says let's sit down and talk about it, we have to have that kind of conversation. one person's perception is somebody else's reality. >> professor watkins, if this is a teachable moment which just about everybody seems to say, in your opinion, what is the lesson? >> i think skip gates, i'm hopeful he understands the first step toward being a good professor is to know how to be a good student. the thing is we should all be students in this teachable moment. that starts with sergeant crowley, skip gates as well as the rest of the country. one of the questions i have -- why did we decide racial profiling exists because it happened to a harvard professor? allegedly.
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i'm going to tell you this. i don't believe this situation was just the violation of a black man's rights. if it was a violation of all. it was a violation of an american's rights. if you have a problem with the procedure you check to see if sergeant crowley followed procedure. if he did follow procedure, you need to take that to the legislature. an officer is a soldier who executes the law. effectively, i'm not sitting here saying sergeant crowley didn't make a mistake or didn't overreact. the truth is we can all learn with this. we have to learn with humility. skip gates and sergeant crowley have to ask themselves this hard question, which is tough for men with big egos. are you willing to apologize and admit maybe you made a mistake? when i hear that, i'll start to feel better about this situation. >> anderson, i saw the police officer's news conference as well when they said the president owes all law enforcement an apology although he was speaking directly to the cambridge folks. here's the deal. police officers there continue to say it was a just arrest but
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they dropped the charges. where i come from, if you believe you were right, if you believe he was disorderly, you move forward with it. why drop the charges? >> we are going to ask that question to one of the officers on the scene, an african-american officer. we'll find out his answer in a moment. david gergen, roland martin, boy watkin, stick around. the conversation continues. it continues online at ac360.com. join the live chat. let us know what you think about this. you'll want to hear from our next guest, the african-american police officer who arrived on the scene after sergeant crowley. hear his take on the arrest and whether he thinks it would have had a different outcome if he had been the first officer on the scene. breaking news, michael jackson developments. new search and millions of dollars recovered for the family. we'll tell you what was searched for and who's giving back big bucks. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways.
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there are two versions of what happened inside henry lewis gates' home. unless tapes of the officer's radio calls are released, we may never know sure exactly what happened. whose version or events was correct. sergeant crowley was not the only police officer on the screen. take a look at the snapshot of professor gates being led out in handcuffs. lower right hand corner, another member of the sergeant force, leon lashly. he stands by officer crowley 100% but told me things might have ended differently if he had been there first. we spoke earlier. sergeant, thanks for being with us. you heard what president obama said this afternoon. what was your reaction? >> i was relieved he finally
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came up and hopefully with that statement that came out from president obama we can put an end to this. >> as far as you're concerned, it's time to move on? >> yes. definitely. i also agree with the president that we do have to continue to fight the fight of ending racism and ending the discrimination that goes on in this country when it's there. >> but in your opinion this is not a case where it's there? >> this is definitely not a case where it was involving racism. >> i understand you were -- you spoke with sergeant crowley after he spoke to the president. i think you may have been there with him while you were speaking to the president. what was sergeant crowley's reaction to the president's call? >> he was -- he said that the president is a class guy. he felt that he was -- he supported him in the beginning. he supported him during it. even after his statements he still supported president obama. he was just really relieved that
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hopefully this will put an end to it. >> take us through that day. what happened when you got the call to professor gates' house? you came after other officers had arrived? correct? >> yes. yes, i did. i arrived on the scene. there was officer -- sergeant crowley and officer figueroa inside the building or inside the house. i stepped on the sidewalk where the caller was on scene and she was giving an interview with officer rosa, who was speaking to her. i sent another couple officers inside to see what was going on. i stayed out with officer rosa. >> so you could hear a conversation inside the house, though. what did you hear? >> i heard some conversation inside the house and all of a sudden it got a little bit louder with the -- i heard the comments of this is how a black man in america is treated. and i'm being placed under
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arrest in my own home because a white woman called the police. >> you know, one of the questions a lot of people would have on this is why arrest professor gates? i mean, if he's just talking back to police and president obama says overreacting, perhaps, why not just let him do that in his own home and leave the scene? >> well, once he came out of his own home it became something different. he was in the public view and he was causing much of a -- it was just getting out of control after he came outside. >> but he was on his front porch, right? >> he's outside. >> so you have absolutely no qualms at all that he should have been arrested? that he should have been taken in? >> i have no qualms with that. one of the things that we want to -- would have it been
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different had i shown up first? i think it probably would have been different. >> because? >> because of the black man to black man, it probably would have been different. had he continued to do -- ended up -- if it didn't go the way i would assumed if i had been there first, i, too, would have placed him under arrest if it got too much further out of control. i believe sergeant crowley was within his rights to make that arrest at that location and at that time. >> sergeant lashley, i know you are busy, appreciate your time. appreciate what you do. thank you. >> thank you. >> cambridge police sergeant talking about the bust, the presidential call and the beer at the white house. >> at the end of the conversation there was discussion about -- my conversation with sergeant crowley, there was discussion about he and i and professor gates having a beer here in the
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white house. we don't know if that is scheduled yet. but we may put that together. he also did say he wanted to find out if there is a way of getting the press off his lawn. i informed him that i can't get the press off my lawn. >> back now digging deep with professor boyce watkins and roland martin. does it make sense to have these two men get together at the white house over this? >> well, look, the president extends the invitation. i think what makes sense is that they actually get together because -- >> it does seem as if from the police officer's standpoint, according to his friend, the fellow officer, he's ready to move on. it seems as if professor gates or his representative is kind of moving back a little bit from some of the stronger rhetoric that we heard early on. do you think -- >> no. actually, they are not moving
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back. skip gates said when soledad o'brien interviewed him, he is leaving all his options open. if the officer did apologize as a christian he would accept that. >> his attorney is not saying it is not so much about a race incident. >> first of all, i also spoke with professor charles ogletree and that's not what we talked about. i can only go on what i've heard from charles ogletree who is skip gates' attorney. again, they said their options are, indeed, still open as to how they want to move forward. i still believe a conversation is important. because here is the other piece. the officer said he was within his rights. they dropped the charges. if you believe he was wrong and should have been arrested why drop them? >> that was edited out of our interview. the question when i asked that to the other officer he said it was a misdemeanor and probably would have gotten adjudicated away anyway. >> what also happened anderson,
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you and i know, the public perception is you didn't have anything to sustain the arrest and knowing full well he likely wouldn't be convicted. >> professor watkins, do you believe this is an issue about race or do you think two people with big egos or clashing egos? >> i think the answer is that we don't know. that is the problem we were making bandwagon assumptions based on things we didn't know. look, either sergeant crowley violated procedure or he didn't. if he did violate procedure, he either violated it because skip gates was black or from some other reason. the truth is we can't read this man's mind. the truth, reality is this could have happened to someone of another ethnicity, particularly when you look throughout sergeant crowley's record. i assume he wouldn't be teaching classes on racial sensitivity if he has a record of arresting black men for no reason. i'm not trying to say that this did not happen in this case. i'm not saying anybody is a liar.
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what i'm saying is we can't use this case as a poster child for racial profiling issues across america because there are real racial profiling that goes on other than harvard university. skip gates knows he is skip gates. being a black professor at harvard with all the money skip has, i guarantee he probably has more privilege than most white americans have anyway. >> anderson, race is involved because, look, when you step back and say, here you have an african-american professor in his home. the cop comes there. the black officer said i think it may have been differently if it was an african-american cop with this actual black male here. what we have to learn here is what is going through a black man's mind when this kind of thing is happening? again, people say, well, it needs to be overt. people also perceive things differently. what is implied, what is inferred. so here he is standing there saying this is how i am interpreting this. we cannot dismiss that and say, well, that's not relevant. it is relevant because it happens every day. people make assumptions.
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women make assumptions based on is this happening to me because i am a woman? is this happening because i am hispanic? >> some assumptions are correct and some assumptions are not. >> absolutely. that's why we can -- there's no hard, fast rule to say if race was a role. it could have been a role. we have to examine it. that is why the conversation is so important. to understand the give and take and what people feel and experience and what perception is. >> we have to understand that racial healing is going to require patience. i think dr. gates and all of us -- let's assume dr. gates is right about this. he needs to ask himself a question -- what would martin luther king do? would he say he should beg me for my forgiveness and i might give it to him. or should he say i forgive you. the diseases of racism affects all of us. all of us are victims of this. so, you know -- >> i agree. >> you may or may not do something wrong, you have to approach that situation with strength and understanding at the same time. >> he may also see how malcolm x
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looks at it. skip gates is not dr. king. he is skip gates. he has to look at it from his perspective. and no one else's. >> we're going to leave it there. great discussion as always. thank you, gentlemen. a lot more to see online at ac360.com. a new blog posting from professor watkins. a good read. a complete copy of the arrest report. which is also fascinating to read. breaking news in the michael jackson case. authorities searching a clinic in beverly hills. randi kaye has that. the latest. a new money angle to the tune of millions of dollars suddenly found. also the evangelist charged with having sex with minors, some as young as 9 years old. that man maintains his innocence.
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first erica hill has a "360" bulletin. horror for a minneapolis family online. parents of 20-year-old jamal missing for months, found their son on the internet in a photo showing the young man with a shot in his head. he died thousands of miles away in somalia. the fbi says his death is part of an investigation of a recruiting effort in the united states by somali terrorist groups. arkansas e vang lift plans to appeal his conviction. a jury today found him guilty as taking five girls as young as 9 years old across state lines for sex. second ranking democrat in the house says lawmakers may not be able to vote on a health care bill next week but that doesn't mean they'll get that planned summer vacation right away. steny hoyer suggesting house leadership may need to keep lawmakers in washington past the august break to continue on the overhaul. the so-called octo mom, nadya suleman signed agreements for each of her 14 children to
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earn $250 a day to star in a reality tv show. the contract guarantees the kids will collectively earn $250,000 over the next three years. >> not a surprise. >> not so much. new information about michael jackson's estate and investigators looking into the pop star's death search for clues at yet another medical clinic. ahead, michael wehr with a chilling portrait of a taliban chilling portrait of a taliban commander once paid who may be holding an american soldier hostage in afghanistan. r all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. have key antioxidants and other nutrients
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randi kaye has the details. there is an estate hearing in august? >> august 3rd. right. we've been waiting on that. the executors of his estate are already hard at work. they're not wasting any time getting down to business. they have been formally in charge of this estate for a week. i got the news today they have recovered $5.5 million from one of jackson's former advisers. they won't say who the adviser is, but 5.5 million bucks. also court documents we have explaining all of this say they've also recovered, quote, substantial amounts of personal property. no amount given there. the documents say, quote, the special administrators are in the process of negotiating human numerous business agreements for the benefit of the estate which will generate tens of millions of dollars in he you. this will likely pay the monthly support payments to go to katherine jackson and his three children for at least for now she has custody of. the executors say the cash flow should be enough to cover that.
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>> we know about the medical facility, dr. murray's office being raided. you've learned about another facility? >> i have. in beverly hills called the spaulding pain medical clinic in beverly hills. we confirmed with a source close to the investigation the clinic was searched on monday by investigators from the coroner's office, search was, quote, in ex-wi connection with the michael jackson investigation. my source could not say what led them to the clinic or what they took t. receptionist told me quote, we've been told to say no comment. no surprise there. here is what is interesting. take a look at this. this is the birth certificate on the screen there for paris jackson, michael jackson's daughter. she's 11 years old now. look at the place of birth, it says spalding pain medical clinic. 120 south balding drive, beverly hills, gives the birth date, lists father as michael jackson, mother his ex-wife debbie rowe. coincidence michael jackson's
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daughter was born here? it is curious, anderson, since we can tell this is not your typical setting for a baby delivery. it's a pain clinic. >> that is an odd coincidence. you talked about the items taken by authorities from dr. murray's office. one of those items sort of caught your eye tonight. >> it did. i'm going to use the word coincidence because it is something strange. we're not sure what's going on here. detectives earlier this week raided jackson's doctor's clinic and the storage facility he was renting. here is what caught my eye, among the items seized were two yahoo! account e-mails from the office and one piece of correspondence from the storage facility. the e-mails and correspondence appear to be with the same person. we're not naming that person. it is curious. we are working to find out who this person is. if this person even exists. there have been so many false names used in connection with michael jackson, false prescriptions that were maybe written in somebody else's name. we want to know who this person is and where they might be.
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>> what happens, i mean, a lot of these -- some of these questions i guess will be answered when the toxicology report comes out. what do we know about that? there are a lot of conflicting reports. >> there are so many reports. a report out today there is a draft report already done, a draft of the final toxicology report. sounds like it would make sense since we are supposedly just days away from the final report being made public. i spoke with a source close to the investigation today and told, quote, we don't have a draft report. we don't put anything down preliminarily on paper until all the toxicology is complete. when that is done the doctor assigned to the case will amend the death certificate which now reads deferred. this case would not comment if the source moved closer to a homicide investigation. we reported earlier this week the search of primary doctor's clinic was to find evidence related to manslaughter. he simply said this is an ongoing investigation and sometimes it is not completed in eight or ten weeks. another source with knowledge of the autopsy told me it seems to
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be on track. we can expect the results to be released by the end of next week. we've heard that before. but it seems to be on track. >> randi, thanks a lot. we want to show you the home michael jackson wanted to call his own. it is in las vegas. just like neverland it is a pretty unusual place, full of surprises and actually even secret tums. an exclusive look inside. here is drew griffin. >> reporter: the home michael jackson wanted but at the time even he couldn't afford. according to his las vegas real tor, this ten-acre walled estate was to be michael jackson's vegas wonderland. >> this is the only house i showed michael out of a ten or a dozen where he came outside. he came outside with no umbrella, no mask on, came out here with the kids to see the grounds of the property. through this gate we have an apartment, it's about 1,000 square feet and the kids wanted to make this into their playroom and michael loved that idea.
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>> reporter: instead he placed michael and his family into this leased home. it was not up to par, but jackson was building a life in las vegas and trying to build back his wealth. entertaining casino owners who were offering jackson deal after deal to make him stay. >> i know that michael really liked the idea of being able to perform in one location night after night. he had met with celine dion one night after seeing her show on the strip. talked about the pros and cons and talked about how people came to him. instead of traveling from town to town. he loved the fact that the kids could have a place to call home and not move around since they are always going everywhere with him. that was an idea that appealed to him. there's a couple secret tunnels through here. >> reporter: the estate is filled with quirky appeals, secret tunnels leading to a gun range jackson wanted to turn into a music studio, a barber chair in the master bath, a full gym, theater room and a 20-car garage where he and his family could load into and out of cars out of view.
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what was he most interested in when he'd come into a house like this? >> michael's biggest concern in my opinion was the safety of his children. eight foot fence around the property. there is no hoa so you can raise your wall, put barbed wire around your wall. put cameras installed in addition to what's already here. >> reporter: at the time back from his self-exile in bahrain and ireland, jackson couldn't afford the $22 million to $25 million price tag. he believes the concert tour would have been michael jackson's pathway back to this house, a permanent show in las vegas and a new retreat he would have called wonderland. drew griffin, cnn, las vegas. >> what might have been, i suppose. you can join the live chat at ac360.com. he was once funded by the cia. now he may be holding a u.s. soldier hostage. michael wehr joins us for a chilling profile of a top taliban commander, a former ally
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we learn for the first time since taking office president obama is awarding the medal of honor to a soldier who died in afghanistan. staff sergeant jared semonte. the 32-year-old was killed in action in 2006 sacrificing his own life to save a comrades. there are thousands of u.s. troops fighting in afghanistan. there is one soldier in the hands of the enemy. the american was kidnapped by the taliban earlier this month. it appears a taliban commander once paid by the cia may be behind it. who is he? michael wehr reports. >> reporter: u.s. soldier private first class bowe bergdahl disappeared from his unit more than three weeks ago. the taliban quickly claimed credit and this proof of life
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video appeared soon after. >> i have a very, very good family. >> reporter: it came from men who take orders from this man, one of the taliban's senior commanders, jell la dean hachani. for the u.s., however, this is a bitter role reversal because this warrior spent almost a decade fighting on behalf of the cia. >> it is very unnerving to be prisoner. >> reporter: as for this video, this is the nightmare scenario for the parents and commanders of any u.s. soldier in afghanistan. 23-year-old bergdahl had been fighting in this area of afghanistan. hachani has been fighting here for almost 30 years. here he and his men are battling to drive out soviet troops. back then they were funded by the cia and hachani was fighting for america in a secret war with cia money, training and weapons like stinger missiles, he and his men killed more soviet
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soldiers than any other afghan commander. famed texas congressman charlie wilson described hakani as goodness personified. the war in afghanistan is often called charlie wilson's war. because wilson almost single handedly pushed congress to fund it. when wilson secretly visited afghanistan during the cold war, he did so as the guest of hachani. with the soviets driven out, the u.s. turned its back on afghanistan. hakani and his men were adrift until they joined forces with the taliban. now years later they have turned their guns on american troops. this is a classic that was then and this is now story. but there is one more player to add. pakistan's intelligence agency the isi. back in the soviet era, washington and the cia used the pakistanis to coordinate with hakani and the other afghan
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fighters and now today pakistan army spokesman say s the isi could again with the go-between with hachani. >> the contact doesn't mean the states as the policy, as a policy is providing them the physical support or the funding or the training but having said that, more intelligence organization in the world shuts its last door on any other organization. >> reporter: if it wants to bring home private first class bowe bergdahl, there is no doubt the u.s. will have to talk again with the taliban warlord. >> michael ware joins us. this fit into a larger picture. >> very much and for the obama administration. the plight of this soldier illustrates much of the problem with the afghan war. hakani takes sanctuary in pakistan. that is almost certainly where this soldier is being held. >> inside pakistan? >> almost without a doubt. that is where hakani's bases are.
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obama is going to need a political solution to this war. the pakistanis have named four key commanders they can bring to the table. the americans have named four key commanders they are prepared to talk to. those names match and one is hakani. >> michael ware, appreciate it. thanks, interesting look. up next, a major drug bust, more than $1 billion worth of pot seized in a state where it is not too hard to get it legally. are doctors and patients taking advantage of medical marijuana laws? we're keeping them honest. later, governor sarah palin's picnics. farewell grathering before she leaves office this weekend. danskin now and starter. ♪ select eyeglass frames are just $9 at walmart -- and they have a 12-month guarantee. ♪ juniors tops from op are $9 too. and you can get them the school supplies they need to start the year for just $9 total. nine dollars.
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county, california, yesterday. they rounded up 82 mexican nationals. fresno county is the size of connecticut with sparse population and terrain that's well-suited to pot growing. more than a dozen states have laws that legalize marijuana for medical use. patients need a doctor's recommendation. when it comes to getting that recommendation are doctors and patients taking advantage of the system? dan simon is "keeping them honest." >> so it's pain, anxiety -- >> and depression. >> reporter: dr. all len franke is a so-called pot doc. on a typical day he will see 13 patients at his marina del ray office and recommend they use marijuana to help with various aches and pains. >> i'm not trying to get patients stones. i'm trying to get patients to feel normal. >> reporter: instead of a prescription to obtain medical marijuana a patient needs a doctor's formal recommendation, a letter, it is how you get in a
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dispensary. you need to be at least 18. minors can get it if their guardian approves. dr. frank l started his practice three years ago after 25 years working as a regular internist. >> i think it is the greatest medication i have worked with. i really do. >> reporter: for those who want it, getting access to medical marijuana in california is relatively easy. >> i'm here to sign up a new patient. >> reporter: chris perez is a typical new patient, complaining of insomnia and depression. how does marijuana help you? >> it calms me down. it eliminates the confusion and the congestion out there. >> reporter: after a 45-minute appointment which includes a thorough briefing on the types of marijuana, dr. frankel gives him the recommendation. >> i'm legal. i can legally do this now in the state of california. >> reporter: finding a pot doc in l.a. is like finding a plastic surgeon in beverly hills, they are ever where. in the classifieds and on the
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web. dr. frankel charges his new patients $200. by law the recommendation can only be good for up to a year. patients have to go back to get a renewal. it is a system being fueled by the explosive growth of dispensaries. there are more than 600 in los angeles, alone. to put that number in perspective there are more dispensaries than starbucks, 7-elevens and even mcdonald's. that is not what this pastor envisioned. when california voters passed it in 1996. he said the dispensaries today are a little more than dope dealers with store fronts. >> that was not the intention of prop 15. 2s it was to get people off the black market, not institutionalize the black market. >> reporter: dr. frankel estimates half of those buying medical marijuana are doing so just to get stoned. he says they harm the industry and make it hard for marijuana to be viewed as legitimate medication. at the same time, though, he says there's little doctors can
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do to combat misuse. >> it's true. will people lie? yes. they will lie to get anything. i am not that concerned about that. what they're just getting is cannabis. >> reporter: getting cannabis, at its worst, california has created a system with plain, old drug abusers hiding under the cover of state laws. at its best, medication to help people manage their pain. dan simon, cnn, los angeles. a lot more on this at the top of the hour. "america's high: the case for and against pot." a "360" special starts in ten minutes. sarah palin is saying goodbye. firing up the grill in her last few days of governor. her new poll numbers are anything but hot right now. the ousted president of honduras makes another attempt to reclaim his office. we'll show you what happened this time. oi announceps my airwen...to hp mee alday lo. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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a 360 bulletin. first it looks like one step forward, one step back for jose manuel zelaya walking into the country. then walking back. from this just a month after the military forced him from office. mr. zelaya is now taking heat from secretary of state clinton, urging all sides to avoid any provocative action that may escalate the power struggle. 360 following tonight. murder charges in the killing of a gay serviceman. shot and set on fire at camp pendleton last month. the suspect, jonathan campos will not face hate crime charges. the killing they say was part of a larger crime spree. starting today you can trade in that old jalopy gas guzzler and get cash back from uncle sam. as much as $4,500. there are one or two catches. find the rules at cars.gov.
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two days left in her tenure as alaska governor, sarah palin is throwing a picnic in wasilla. the grill heating up, recent polling showing her national approval numbers are cooling down. another reminder of governor palin's time is almost up. a moving truck seen at the governor's mansion earlier this week, anderson. many. coming up, can we afford to make pot legal? can we afford not to? 360 special. "america's high: the case for and against pot" at the top of the hour. first the case for harry potter. raking in the money. we thought we would play tribute with tonight's shot, name that media mogul, next. so what do you think?
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i think i'll go with the basic package. good choice. only meineke lets you choose the brake service that's right for you. and save 50% on pads and shoes. meineke. all right. i will take "the shot" from here, anderson cooper, don't you worry. i know you may not be a huge harry potter fan. you've seen at least one movie. >> how old are those kids now? they're like, 16, right? >> they are like 35. >> are they still dressing up as children? >> and having a mid-life crisis about it. we don't have time for that.
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we have time for a quiz for you in honor of the new movie, "harry potter and the half blood prince." characters and their look alikes. i'm going to show you the harry potter character. you tell me the media muggle who looks like the character. >> media muggle being the real person? >> who works in some form of media. there is our man, ron weezly, harry's bff. see a resemblance to anybody there? >> bill gates? >> interesting. try late night. >> conan o'brien? >> yes. >> because he had red hair? >> yes. >> that is ridiculous. they look nothing alike. >> all right. i'm not done. professor of the dark arts, here he comes. who does he look like? >> lou dobbs? >> sadly, no. >> i'm kidding. have you ever seen lou late at night? >> chris matthews. chris matthews, okay, there you go, fine. >> the evil lucious malvoy. >> i'm going to get e-mails.
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>> you are. lou dobbs just e-mailed you. >> doesn't have to be a tv personality. >> i don't know. >> apparently carter from "vanity fair." >> who has been smoking pot? >> he's in big for trying to get votemoore back in power. >> i see lips moving, i don't know what you're saying. >> should we try one more or go to the money shot? we are going to the money shot. >> okay. >> we're going to go to the money shot. you ready? fleur delacour. >> how many books have you read, erica hill? >> i've read all of the books and own them on. later went on to marry bill weezly, ron's brother. they have three children. >> i don't know. who could that look like? >> how about silver fox anderson cooper? >> what? >> here is why. i quote. that silvery hair the bewitching eyes. how could you not be transfixed? this is what they have in common. yes, they are accomplished.
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she competed -- >> i don't understand a word you are saying. >> i'm telling you why they think you look alike. a cornerstone of our primetime here but really they say you're both pretty. >> are we done? i'm completely mystified. i don't know what just happened. >> magic can do that to you. >> i think i was insulted somehow. >> no, you weren't. >> i'm going to play the tape. >> i think i'm done. >> we are so done. >> a "360" special report, "america's high, the case for and against pot." compelling storying from both sides. the facts, you can make up your own mind. have a great weekend. l day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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