local listings in your area for the lou dobbs show. follow me on lou dobbs news on twitter.com. we thank you for being with us tonight. join us tomorrow. for all of us, thanks for watching. good night from new york. next, campbell brown. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking news, michael jackson's final dose. the pop star's personal doctor, conrad murray, gave him the powerful anesthetic that police believe killed him. new information tonight on the investigation. the fbi makes a major bust uncovering a worldwide black market and for sale, organs. what would you do to save the life of a loved one? break the law? how about buy a stranger's kidney for cash. and the going rate? >> this business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 and sell for $160,000. >> meet one doctor who says it

should be legal to sell your organs. the nfl says michael vick can play ball again. he did nearly two years behind bars for dogfighting. should he be allowed back on the field? plus, secrets from washington's top chef. he's cooked for everybody from oprah to the obamas. tonight, chef art smith has d.c.'s dish. hi, everybody. those are big questions tonight. but we start, as always, with the "matchup," our look at the stories making impact right now and the moments you may have missed today. we're watching it all so you don't have to. we begin with the breaking news. investigators say michael jackson's personal doctor gave him the powerful drug that killed the singer. authorities believe dr. conrad murray gave jackson an athetic

called propofol the last day of his life. we're going to have more on this news coming up shortly. police in cambridge, mass, released a phone call from the arrest of professor henry gates. we hear the woman who alerted police to a possible break in at his house. take a listen. >> i don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key. i did notice they kind of used their shoulder to try to barge in and they got in. i don't know if they had a key or not because i couldn't see from my angle. but, you know, when i looked a little closely that's when i saw. >> hispanic? are they still in the house? >> they're still in the house i believe, yeah. >> white, black or hispanic? >> well, there were two larger men, one looks kind of hispanic. i'm not really sure. the other one entered and i didn't see what he looked like at all. >> okay. so you hear, there, that the caller, the caller never mentioned the men were black.

she was asked specifically, black white or hispanic. said she didn't know, only saw one guy she could tell. the one she saw did not look like a black guy. >> she said i don't know if they live there. she refers to them as individuals, gentlemen, she's not alarmed as we might have been led to believe. >> that call is not going to end the racism debate over the arrest. perhaps the meeting over beers at the white house later this week could. >> it's time to move forward, look at lessons learned, and go from there. i hope that they enjoy their beer at the white house. >> i think it's great that they're doing that. you know, i hope that crowley says to obama, can i see your i.d.? >> i just love it with the fact that men can get together over beer. >> i hope it's not an opportunity for the obama administration to appoint another czar, like the 36th in 6 months. the beer czar. >> the perfect brew for the group. >> crowley is drinking blue moon. what is the president drinking?

>> the president had a budweiser at the all-star game, so -- >> yeah, the president started his public love of budweiser during the campaign downing one in indiana dfw hall. news bulletin, president obama was born in hawaii, everybody. it may not seem like news to you, but it is to the birthers. a very small sliver of ultraconservatives who want evidence his birth certificate, for instance, even though we've already seen it. here are the crib notes from today's white house briefing. >> is there anything you can say that will make the birthers go away? >> no. i almost hate to indulge in such an august setting as the white house. i mean this in seriousness, the white house briefing room discussing the made-up fnix l nonsense of whether the president was born in this country. a year and a half ago, i ask the birth certificate be put on the

certificate be put on the certainty. lord knows if you've got a birth certificate and put it on the internet, what else could be the story? if i had some dna, it wouldn't assuage those who don't believe he was born here. i have news for him and all of us, the president was born in honolulu, hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the earth. he's a citizen. >> we all might hope that's the last word. unfortunately i don't think mr. gibbs' statement will be the last word on this topic. while health care is dominating the conversation on capitol hill, the president took a detour to china. the president and secretary of state clinton kicked off two days of talks and stayed an message. china and the u.s. are tightly-linked partners, if you will. >> the relationship between the united states and china will shape the 21st century. that really must underpin our partnership.

>> we already have promising partnerships. >> our ability to partner with each other is a prerequisite for progress. >> a multi-partner world. >> a future when our nations are partners out of necessity but also out of opportunity. >> the other issues on the agenda, climate control and north korea. the u.s. government wants to stimulate you to go buy a new car. there is a catch. there is always a catch. listen. >> car owners can take advantage of a government program called cash for clunkers. the dealerships didn't have enough information about the program yet to explain it to their customers. >> that's correct. the federal government hasn't provided them with all the details yet. it's a long process but will have the details in the next two days. >> or old car must be less than 25 years old on the trade-in date. it has to get 18 miles per gallon or less and must be registered or insured under your name for a year. the new car needs to get at

least 22 miles per gallon. the credit will be anywhere from $3,500 to $4,500 based on how many more miles per gallon your new car gets. >> got that? get more info by downloading the government's 135-page explanation. yes, 135 pages. at cars.gov. the weekend was filled with dangerous driving on land and sea on check this out. sk sk >> an indie race car driver is recovering from burns after this race in canada. see the driver catch fire before crews finally hose him down. he had been accidentally sprayed with gas when a hose malfunctioned. >> a world record comes up dangerously short. this is the stuntman -- crashing head-on into a ramp. his car immediately bursting into flames. >> a hydroplane boat was dipping along during a preliminary heat and it wipes out flipping over several times before landing

upside down. he would have went 100 yards before he landed. >> doctors say the formula one driver's condition is improving after a high-speed crash in hungry sunday. a loose part hit the brazilian who was racing for a spot. >> a all four drivers are expected to recover. that is it for tonight's "matchup." michael jackson's final dose. investigators believe his perm doctor gave him the injections that killed him. the big question tonight, will he face criminal charges? we've got the latest on that. her all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.

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rowlands, jim moret, "inside edition." and jeff toobin in new york with me as well. ted, let me start with you. what do we know right now in. >> pabasically, campbell, throu the source, close to the jackson family but is knowledgeable about the investigation, dr. conrad murray, the personal physician with jackson when he died did administer propofol or diprivan within a 24-hour period proceeding his death. it really does connect jackson with his medication that is not normally used outside a hospital setting. now, did this kill michael jackson? we don't know that. by any stretch of the imagination. still a significant development that these two have been linked. >> so, jeff, how close, i mean, this is a little speculative. how close do you think they are to bringing charges? if they are close, what sort of charges are they talking about

or could they be talking about? >> we need to treat this with great deal of caution. there's no cause of death established. the autopsy report is not out yet. this is not an illegal drug. the doctor, if it fact this is true, administered this, will have explanation of why he did it. even if it caused his death, that doesn't mean there was a crime there. obviously the possibility is manslaughter, unintentional killing. i think we really have to be careful to be fair to dr. murray here because this is far from clear that any crime was committed here. >> okay. so go back to the point you made a moment ago. we're not talking about legal drugs. what -- like, that does complicate things in terms of how you prosecute it. i didn't think about it in those terms. how would they go about it? >> you can kill someone with a legal drug if you give a legal drug in an inappropriate way or inappropriate time or for a disease it's not recommended for. you can still kill someone with it.

>> as a doctor -- >> as a doctor you have access to legal drugs. why he did it? absolutely. >> jim, let me bring you into this. we talked to dr. murray's lawyer, this is just days after jackson's death. he told me that everything dr. murray prescribed was for specific medical conditions. i want you to listen to what he had to say. >> what he prescribed during the two-month period of time of that he was with michael jackson as his private physician was prescribed specifically for medical conditions or medical complaints and was prescribed appropriately, indicated for those complaints. we know only what we saw in -- what dr. murray administered, if anything, to michael jackson and what michael jackson might have taken. it was not sufficient to cause heart attack, it was not sufficient to cause failure, heart failure or respiratory failure. >> okay. so, jim, knowing what we know

tonight, do you think those explanations are going to hold up? >> i think the doctor really has a lot of explaining it do. jeff is right about this. it doesn't automatically follow there's a manslaughter charge brought in this case. first of all, if you look at the anna nicole case, there weren't criminal charges brought for more than a year and those charges were conspiracy and illegal prescription of drugs. they were legal drugs but prescribed in an abusive way. in this case, we know a warrant was issued, rather substantially with a large number of agents last week on dr. murray's offices. in warrant it says specifically that they were looking for evidence of manslaughter. jeff is correct, this would be, if it is manslaughter that the charges the prosecutors ultimately settle on, it's the unintentional killing. the question that the doctor has to answer, did he get those drugs for jackson? did he, in fact, administer those drugs? why did he do so? the strange thing about this particular drug is you can't generally get a prescription for it. it's given only in a hospital

setting, not in someone's home. this is a rather unusual situation. so i think that this certainly raises the stakes for the doctor to be sure. >> jim, quickly before -- go ahead, jeff. >> i just wanted to add, there were other doctors involved with michael jackson's care. other people were prescribing things. i think we're also going to need to know what other doctors were involved. what did they prescribe? what connection did they have before we put this all on one doctor who had a relatively brief relationship? >> to that point, let you go back on this. we knew at one point they were investigating quite a number of doctors. do we know how many are still sort of the focus? >> i spoke to one doctor who has seen, he told me, the second autopsy. that doctor told me there are 19 doctors to his knowledge being investigated and that there were 11 aliases used. in the doctor's words of those 19 doctors, he said they're going to start dropping like dominos. jeff is right about one thing. this could very well be a cocktail of medication, much as we saw in anna nicole's case.

you don't want to look specifically at one doctor but this doctor, unfortunately even in his own words wasn't the last doctor standing when michael jackson died. >> to jim, ted, and jeff. jim moret is going to have more on the michael jackson latest when he fills in for larry king tonight at 9:00 eastern. the nfl says michael vick can play ball again after nearly two years in jail for dogfighting. tonight's big question, can he make a comeback? should he make a comeback? we'll have that plus the real dish on president obama. top chef master art smith. >> well, you know, president obama and misses, they particularly enjoy fish. they eat a lot of grilled fish and a lot of green, particularly, you know, broccoli. broccoli has never been quite a very popular vegetable in the white house, and they love, you know, just really lots of vegetables. i mean, they are the epitome of great healththink we've ever ha

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time now for our great debate. tonight's question, should selling human organs be legal? in what may be the first documented case of organ trafficking in this country, a new york man is charged with attempting to sell a human kidney for $160,000. should that be a crime? joining us to debate, dr. sally satel, psychiatrist. in 2006, she received a kidney donated by a friend. in on an ped in today's "wall street journal," she would have considered paying for one. on the opposite side of this issue, the professor of medical anthropolo anthropology, co-director of a medical human rights project. we're going to have a first quick opening statement from each of you. 30 seconds on the clock as we do always. sally, the question is, should

selling organs be legal? you believe it should be legal. make the case for us. >> i believe what mr. rosenbaum did and the fact that there is a thriving global organ market in the third world is evidence that we need to be able to reward people who are interested in selling a kidney to save a life. and let me tell you the kind of plan we talk about here. we're not talking about cash. talking about a situation where if you, campbell, wanted to give a kidney to the next person on the list, people do that. they're called good samaritan donors. you could get a tax credit or a contribution to your 401(k) or something like that. we're not talking about cash and we're talking about giving it to the next person on the line. >> all right. nancy? >> yes, i disagree with sally, and i think that we should always give a preferential option to using deceased donors.

it works throughout many countries in europe. i just came back from france, and they do not have a waiting list that is exceedingly long or large. only 7% of kidneys are from living people, and i think that it's actually an atrocious idea that we should, as sally says in her article, today, give health insurance to people who don't have it in exchange for their kidneys. she's talking about poor people supporting relatively affluent people who are able to pay for it. >> let me ask you this, nancy. i mean, is there something like 85,000 people waiting for a kidney in the united states. i mean, could this possibly -- i mean, if you're willing to pay people, can't that save lives? is that not a reason to explore it? >> well, it's a long discussion. let me just say that that

waiting list is, like all waiting lists in other countries, needs to be examined. there are many people in the faster-growing demographic on the waiting list for kidneys are people over 70 and 75. i'm not saying that a 75-year-old person doesn't have the right to a kidney, but we have many, many enactive people on the waiting list who are too sick, that no transplant surgeon would in their right minds want to transplant them. so we have to examine that waiting list. >> and, of course, the reason they are too sick to transplant is because they've waited four, five and six years. that's a schiimple tom on the problem. i want to repeat, i'm not talking about the individual who needs the organ buying one or giving something. we're talking about a third party, a state or federal government giving a tax credit for someone willing to come forward and save the life of a stranger. these people would be examined just the way they are now, very

extensive medical workup, psychological workup. everyone, of course, can back out. it's mainly the poor people who will get it. african-americans and hispanics are overrepresented on the list. they can't go out of the country. they don't have relatives -- >> sally, let me ask you, though, because nancy touched on this. france has what's called an opt out program. where everyone is automatically a donor unless you specifically choose not to be. why couldn't something like that work? >> that's fine. that's called presume consent. spain is usually held up as the best example for that. i'm all for presume consent. except it would not nearly provide enough kidneys. even if every person -- many people don't know this and i didn't know it either until i got involved in the issue. if everyone signed their organ donor card, there still would not be enough kidneys. there are 80,000 people waiting up to five and ten years, 13 of them will be dead tomorrow at

this time. >> right. >> and they -- excusemy, salary. the reason we have 80,000 people on a waiting list, disproportionate, out of touch with our own population is because we have many people with diabetes who have not had medical insurance and not had adequate care and ended up on the waiting list when their disease was really treatable. >> i agree with you. what does that have to do with 80,000 people waiting now? i agree with you. we need more prevention, better upfront care. definitely. >> guys, i wish we could go on. as you both point out, there are much bigger issues well beyond this limited issue about selling organs at play here that deserve time and attention. i want to end on common ground. i think the health care notice is the right one to ending on because it is where we all agree. many thanks to all both. appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. the nfl says michael vick can return to the playing field. but after almost two years behind bars, has he paid enough

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michael vick is off the bench. that is if any nfl team wants him. the former quarterback spent two years in prison for financing a dog fighting ring. the nfl commissioner is giving vick a second chance allowing him to turn with conditions. if he stays out of trouble, vick could be cleared to play in regular-season games by mid-october. vick will be watched closely. >> whether he makes it on the field for the nfl is something that will be determined on the field. but he has some big decisions off the field to make in the way he conducts himself. i think he is at a point right now where he is prepared to make those decisions and hopefully conduct himself in a more

positive way. >> with me now, cnn primetime exclusive, michael vick's agent, joel segal. joining us right now by phone. joel, give us the reaction. michael vick's reaction to the commissioner's decision? >> well, the commissioner called mike. we we've been waiting all day. sort of like we've been out waiting for a jury. and mike called me. he was emotional, excited and just -- really thankful to the commissioner for giving us a chance. >> you know, some players, i think, ter rell owens, one of them, openly condemned the league's decision to suspend him on top of his time served. what did you think of that? >> as far as the decision, the most important thing is mike is ready for this opportunity. he knows he's got a lot to prove and can't wait for the next step which is hopefully signing with the team. >> have you been contacted by some of these teams? >> yeah, you know, it's going to be one day at a time. there will be a host of clubs interested in mike. i think tonight we just got off the phone and said, you know

what, let's enjoy tonight, be thankful we're back in and talk about the teams thunderstorm. >> okay. so has anybody called you? presumably, yes. >> we've been in contact with teams. it's going to be one day at a time before anything happens. >> what sort of shape is he in? ready to return to football? is he, i mean, physically ready to resume playing? >> he's always in great shape, especially -- intramural players. you know, as far as michael vick shape? i think that will take a little more time but it will be short before he's ready to participate. >> joel segal, thanks for your time tonight. we want to bring in entertainment sports attorney ryan smith and sports analyst, steven a. smith as well. in atlanta, sports attorney david cornwell also with us. steven, let me start with you in atlanta. what's your reaction to the commissioner's decision? >> well, i think it's a disgrace as far as i'm concerned. it's very, very nice of him to reinstate michael vick.

i understand that, but the fact this man spent 23 months in the federal prison and comes out and still has to suffer with a suspension that will last anywhere from a month to six weeks i think is utterly ridiculous. i co-signed with terrell owemat. if the man never served prison time and suffered in the court of public opinion, that would be one thing. this man was if federal prison for almost two years. i don't think any suspension should have come down at all. >> he didn't seem to care. >> excuse me in. >> listening to his lawyer, they didn't seem to care that much. >> what is he supposed to say? oh, my goodness, i have a problem with the commissioner? now that i'm out of prison and looking for the job in the nfl? of course he's going to say that. he can't say anything else. >> david, i know you disagree. you think the nfl commissioner made the right decision. >> i do. i think this is a break through decision. michael was obviously -- learned

humility from being in prison. he showed maturity in the way he's handled himself. no question, he couldn't pull the woel over the eyes. joel segal has handled this perfectly. this was not the new sheriff in town commissioner that we've read about a lot. this was roger goodell showing compassion but also taking his leadership of the nfl seriously. michael may very well play the first game of the regular season if he conducts himself in the way the commissioner expects and works out this transition plan the commissioner has laid out for him. i think this may be a break through and we could have a success story coming out of this. >> what is he going to get on the money market? >> probably the minimum for a player of his year. teams are going to look at him right now and say we're taking a chance. the important thing for michael vick is to rehab his image.

the commissioner is trying to create athletes who are good citizens in the public eyes. he's saying, i'm going to take you out for a little bit because i have to give you a chance to rehab your image, do what you are going to do with the humane society, be a good spokesman, then when you come out, maybe the veteran's minimum. >> has anybody forgotten this man is suffering with bankruptcy? got about $16 million in assets. $20 million in debt. he's trying to address that. there's no job out here in the 9:00 to 5:00 market that's going to pay him the $4 million difference he has to take care of. not to mention the fact -- i respect roj ger goodell. he isn't just doing this out of the kindness of his heart. it has something to do with it but the same time his position has to do with the animal rights activists who will compounding on his door because they want to make sure michael vick continues to suffer. if he comes back at the beginning of the season, hey, roger goodell deserves the props in the world. if he suffers a suspension that

lasts more than a month or whatever the case may be, that's a bit excessive. >> let me have ryan respond to that. >> steven, you have to look at it -- this commissioner is looking at how in a down economy how people are looking at the league. they want their athletes to be the peyton mannings, the good citizens out there. if he gets out of jail and lets him in the league, what message is that sending to athletes out there? that's what roger goodell is saying. >> you're acknowledging he's not doing it out of the goodness of his heart. we're not acting like the commissioner is an angel in all of this. >> there was plenty of cover for the commissioner to come down with the draconian decision that could have kept michael vick out of the league for a year or more. michael vick looked in the commissioner's eyes and lied to them before all of this went down. >> that's a good point. >> the commissioner said i trust your representation to me that you're going to make a difference. it's up to you and i'm willing

to give you a chance. i don't know that there's anybody that could have asked for more. we can't undo the sentence. we can't undo the bankruptcy. we are in position now to start anew and give michael vick the chance to be a success story in the national football league and the reason is the commissioner gave him a chance, joel handled this perfectly and michael showed the authenticity that was necessary to get back on the field. >> of course, he wanted to work again. >> all right. steven, you always get the last word in. many thanks, guys. appreciate it. we're out of time here. cooking for the president. top chef master art smith is sharing the real dish on washington and the white house. >> briefly hadba bill clinton i the white house, president clinton, and our president barack obama at table 52. one of the things i find, this comes from working for all these years for miss winfrey is people regardless of title, economics, et cetera, i think that, you

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few words of dietary advice from the country's nutritionist in chief and his gardner. you'll recognize them. >> it also means cutting down on all the junk food that's fueling and epidemic of obesity. this puts far too many american, young and old, at greater risk of costly chronic conditions. that's a lesson michelle and i have tried to instill in our daughters. some of you know we started a white house vegetable garden. i say we generously because michelle's done most of the work. >> this garden cannot only feed my family, but it's going to feed all the staff at the white house. we're going to use these vegetables to help feed you guys. we're going to serve it at some state dinners. with this little plot of land -- this is a big plot. you don't vn have to plant this much, we can produce enough fruits and vegetables to feed us for years and years to come for

just a couple hundred dollars. isn't that amazing? >> eat healthy. the order of the day from the very top. our newsmaker tonight, chef art smith is the right person to ask about the new way of eating. the president and first lady produced to his cooking by oprah winfrey, in his d.c. restaurant. he has cooked for a number of presidents now. we asked him how cooking for the obamas is different. so, the president and the first lady, i know they've, in a couple times. they had a valentine's day date at one of your restaurants. what specifically did they -- to they typically order? >> well, you know, president obama and misses, they particularly enjoy fish. usually they eat a lot of grilled fish and a lot of green -- particularly, you know, broccoli, you know? you know, broccoli's never been quite a very popular vegetable many the white house, and they love, you know, just really lots of vegetables. i mean, they are the epitome of

great health. i don't think we've had a presidential family as healthy as they are. they are always -- i've been cooking for them for probably, now, three to four years. i met them through miss winfrey. we were neighbors in hyde park. i've done a lot of family events. i do traditional southern foods, traditional holiday foods. i also have cooked healthful foods that usually would involve chicken or fish or vegetables. >> so, if they're so healthy, how does that contrast with the kind of foods that the bushes are the clintons liked to eat? >> well, i think the reality is this. i think everyone knows -- i think we've actually reached a time now where people are more serious and more -- evidence has shown if you eat more vegetables and more fruits you'll have a better life and not be at risk of all these things. now we've come to a time that

everybody is believing everything that's been talk. historically, our mother says, eat your vegetables. eat your vegetables. there are the days when president clinton has eaten hamburgers and something of that sort. nothing wrong with a hamburger. i love a hamburg. py i don't think he ate hamburgers every day. we realize to have a wonderful, healthful life, we have to make better choices in terms of what we eat. yes, we can have a hamburger but not have one -- have one once a week and have more fish and vegetables. looking at protein. you know, i'm famous for fried chicken. i've won "top chef masters" last week for fried chicken. >> t about this healthy eating but i watched you. here was your winning dish. fried chicken, smothered chicken and pie. how do you reconcile that with your healthy eating mission in. >> how i reconcile that, you had to look at the situation. here i was with three fancy

chefs. and the reality is everybody's kind of ashamed to cook something as humble as fried chicken or pipe the reality is they may say, oh, no, no, no, but the fact is people really want to eat that. you have three judges who have tasted possibly everything possible under the sun. you know, the fact was i wanted to really be unassuming but yet have lots of great flavor. that's why i chose to do that. because i knew that they wanted to taste things that were comforting and that were authentic. it worked. >> well, you mentioned earlier that you were oprah's personal chef. i know she was really focused on trying to lose weight. she struggled with her weight. as a nation we're struggling with our week. today, the cdc releases a new statement that says obesity is costing us $150 billion a year in medical bills. we do love comfort foods. how do you do that? how do we balance that with our need to be healthy? is there a way to do what you're

talking about, fried chicken, for the health conscious? >> well, campbell, what we have to do, one, like i -- i love just grains and stuff for breakfast. i think it's all about what we ate during our day. if you're going to eat, say, a piece of fried chicken, have it for lunch, not for dinner. try to enjoy your carbs early in the day rather than at night. i think life is kind of sad if you're constantly just, you know, going after yourself about what you're putting in your mouth. yes, we have this problem, yes we need to address it. it's not about what you eat, it's about how much you eat. everything tends to be on the big side. everything, when you go to have a coffee, every muffin, bagel is this big. we never think about, i'll eat half and save the rest. i think it has a lot to do with portion size. all of us, including myself, deal with, you know, weight issues and stuff. >> let me just go back to the

restaurant in washington. i wanted to ask you about this earlier. who -- it is like the hot place. everybody's hanging out there, from what you read. you're getting lots of buzz. the whole political crowd. give us a sense of who's been coming in, what they're ordering, what they're eating. >> well, you know, i've had the pleasure of having house speaker, madame speaker nancy pelosi many times. a lovely, lovely, lovely lid ll who i adore. she loves great food. i love the fact she loves pretty flowers. i think she's an amazing woman. i made a pit stop last weekend and attorney general holden was there and i had a lovely conversation with him. he enjoyed his meal. you know, we've had the head of the cia and some other great people, rahm emanuel was there. i think every congressman on capitol hill has been there, and senator, and it's been a pleasure. i mean, when i went there and i

saw that location, campbell, said to myself, you know, this -- the hill needs a place where people come together. i mean, let's face it. you know, if we spent more time at a table we'd have a lot less problems because the fact is we communicate. historically, you know, whether it be politics, whether it just be family business, you know, it all was centered around food. and art and soul has become the political hub for lunch. >> all right, art, i can't let you go without asking you, who is the chef to beat on "top chef masters?" in your view. >> well, you know there's some real -- i want to tell you something. that hubert keller, you know -- there are some really great ones. i mean, now it's all down to the, you know, out of 25 chefs, you know, there's six of us left and it will be very interesting to see, like i said. it's going to be some tough competition. look out for drama.

drama, drama, drama. >> lots of drama. we love that. congratulations to art smith. no shortage of corruption or alleged corruption in politics. when we come back, we have found one young mayor who may have set a record. three weeks in office and he's already been arrested. it keeps . to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways.

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week with 44 other fellow new jerseyens taking $25,000 in cash allegedly in bribes. the worst part is the guy campaigned as a reformer. he campaigned on a zero tolerance policy against corruption. what's the first thing he does during the campaign? three weeks, takes bribes. that's wing nut stuff. >> according to the fbi, he was blase about the consequences of getting caught, right? >> when he was soliciting prescribe bribes, he got saying, rightita locked down. nothing can change that now. i can still be indicted and i'm still going to win 85% to 95% of those populations. cynical scum bagry. >> i'm going to steal that phrase from you. john avalon with this week's "wing nut watch." great stuff. appreciate it. tow truck operator was going to give up and move to florida.

he's just found a way to stay ahead of the recession. that's tonight's "money and main street."

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downturn started more than two years ago, despite selling his house and everything else, his towing and repair business was barely sir vooufing. this third-generation garage owner close to giving up with plans to start over in florida. his heart was firmly in this new york shop. >> when the going gets tough, you can't crawl up in a ball and hide. you've got to fight back. >> reporter: already nearly a half million dollars in debt, fisher knew he had one last shot. a coveted towing contract with aaa. when you were trying to get a aaa contract initially, did they come up here and this is what they saw? >> this was the door. >> reporter: that was your first clue maybe you should change the door? >> the guy walked in, looked around like this, and introduced himself, shook my hand, handed me a card and said we don't need anybody but if we do we'll give you a call. >> reporter: instead of waiting for a call, fisher got busy turning the garage door into a proper entrance and creating a waiting area complete with upscale magazines, a flat screen

tv and fresh baked pastries. the overhaul set him back another $40,000, still no phone calls and few new customers. >> i guess it took four or five months of me harassing them before they finally came in and said, look, we'll give you a shot as a backup. >> reporter: it still wasn't enough. fisher made plans to sell the business. then two days before the closing, the phone rang. >> i got a call and they said, are you ready? and i had to pause because my wife was already looking at houses. >> reporter: the fishers put florida on hold. in just two weeks of aaa, business is up 60%. >> i'm fighting to succeed, and in that fight to succeed, i'm getting further in debt. but that's the only way i can see my way out. you've got to take a chance. take a chance and chase it. >> reporter: for fisher, it's a fight he's not ready to give up on just yet. erica hill, cnn, new york.

and for more creative ways to reinvent yourself, for new career, visit us on the web, check out cnn.com/money&main st. before we go, we want to recap tonight's breaking news on the michael jackson case. as we reported, a source close to jackson's family, someone with knowledge of the investigation, confirming to cnn tonight that jackson's personal physician who you will remember here, dr. conrad murray, administered the drug that authorities believe killed him. now, murray allegedly gave jackson the anesthetic propofol in the 24 hours before he died. this is all according to this source. dr. murray and his lawyers have not yet commented. last week, texas authorities searched murray's houston medical office and storage unit, looking for evidence of the offense of manslaughter. this is according to court documents. we're going to have a lot more on this coming