the hour. "larry king live" starting next with jim moret filling in for larry continue. they're going to have the details for you. that does it for us tonight. have a good night, everybody and a good week. see you back here tomorrow night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, breaking news bombshell in the michael jackson case. his personal doctor administered the powerful anesthetic that authorities believe killed him. why did he give jackson propofol? did he provide it on the day jackson died? is he officially a suspect in the king of pop's death? dr. conrad murray's lawyers aren't talking tonight but inside sources are. plus, the gates take. what did the harvard professor's neighbor report to police? hear her 911 call for yourself right now on "larry king live."

i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in tonight for larry king. joining us to talk about the breaking jackson news, cnn ted rowlands and extras's carlos diaz. ted, first to you. what can you tell us about the investigation? >> according to a source which is close to the jackson family and has knowledge of the on going death investigation into jackson's death, dr. conrad murray, his personal petition, was with him when he died, administered propofol or diprivan to jackson in a 24-hour period tire to jackson's death. significant because it's the first time we've connected dr. murray to this drug which we've been talking about a lot the last few weeks. this is the first confirmation to a source of a connection between murray and jackson. >> kor lease, this steps up the entire scope of the investigation and the nature of it, with respect to dr. murray. >> it focuses it on dr. murray.

for the last month we've been saying dr. murray is a suspect, although his lawyer has long said he's not. in fact, his lawyer issued a statement saying we will not be commenting on rumors, innuendo or unnamed sources. it's one of those situations where now because of this unnamed source, we're looking at dr. conrad murray more specifically than any other doctor looked at right now. that's the thing. i mean, it's nothing new we haven't heard before. it's who we're hearing it from from the jackson household. >> ted, do we know where dr. murray is if he's in contact with authorities? >> we don't know where he is specifically. his lawyers aren't telling us. clearly they are in contact with the authorities. they were supposed to meet for a third time last friday. following the search warrant if houston, that meeting was, quote, postponed and have not yet scheduled another meeting. clearly they are in contact. if they want to talk to dr. murray, his lawyers say he's totally available. anything they want, they can --

we should clarify, is by no means a suspect in this case. >> right. and as carlos mentioned, his lawyers have steadfastly maintained his innocence. you tried to contact his attorneys late this afternoon. what did they tell you? >> basically as carlos said they're not going to comment to the rumored innuendos or sources reportings. they will not report until they find out what's in jackson's body. they're not going to comment on anything unless it comes from an official. >> it's curious, because they really stepped this thing up last week. because the search warrants were issued, and they were the first to come forward saying that they were -- the authorities were looking for evidence of a homicide, of manslaughter. that was dr. murray's own attorney. >> but they took it from the search warrant and you could look at it two ways. why would their attorneys say, you know, throw out the word manslaughter? they clearly took the wind out of the sail from a reporter outside the courthouse, oh,

manslaughter. i don't read too much into that. it was a bombshell when it came out but it makes sense from a strategic standpoint. >> they're getting in front of the story. the lawyers, you know, are trying to maintain some normalcy here by saying, okay, well, this is what we have to say. that is why i think it's very telling today the statement they've put out is very terse and very to the point saying we're not going to comment. this is the first time the lawyer has said, okay, we're not going to comment on that. that might be something to read into right there. >> we want to add dr. murray throughout all of this has mainta maintained his innocence. you said he's not officially a suspect but was the subject of a massive search. >> yeah. it could be -- there could be for search warrants coming down in connection to this case. keep in mind the dea is working with local police here and they are looking at everything that jackson was prescribed and everything doctor that administered x, y or z. that in itself makes sense. the glaring thing in the search warrant saying the word

manslaughter in terms -- when they went to the judge they had to get probable judge. they went to the judge and said we're looking for information that could lead to the crime of manslaughter. so that was eye opening, but murray -- there could be other people still out there. we've got to be read careful to say he's a suspect in a murder or homicide when we don't know what the cause of death is. >> still, sources still saying this doctor administered diprivan or propofol to michael jackson. carlos, there were reports of various drugs found in the doctor's room where he was staying at michael jackson's mansion. that's significant as well. >> it is significant. it is significant dr. murray was the one who led authorities there when he was questioned on saturday night after the death of michael jackson. he basically said there are drugs in this closet, in this room, drugs authoritied overlooked. he's been very forthcoming and very, you know, outright with saying these are where the drugs were and they found diprivan at that time.

that's where the whole diprivan story founded. >> i want to remind viewers, these are items covered by investigators from dr. murray's house and storage unit. computer, two hard drives, 27 taplets of a prescription-strength appetite suppressant. a tablet of anti-anxiety medication. rolodex cards. what is the significance of these items? notices from the irs. laundry list of hospital documents. >> a couple e-mails to a specificer. . we did found out through a source, that individual person, the mystery person in the e-mail confiscated as part of the search warrant is the individual who had ha storage locker in her name, not dr. murray's name in houston, but was using it for dr. murray. according to a source familiar with the investigation. >> basely in a case like this, the dea is involved. they do this all the time. they know what they're looking for. you have to think about going into a medical office is not like going into a drug dealer's house when you're looking for

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welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry tonight. joining us now, defense

attorneys. mark geragos. trent copeland. robin sax, former los angeles county deputy defense attorney and author of "predators and child molests." you're also a cbs legal analyst. robin, first to you. former deputy d.a., you have this evidence now for linking this doctor to using the substance that investigators believe killed michael jackson. as a prosecutor, what do you do with it? >> i'm thinking i'm filing charges first thing in the morning if that's the report i'm actually getting. the only question in my mind is whether it's going to be second-degree murder or involuntary manslaughter. >> many people would say, you're jumping the gun, you first have to know where he got the drug. did he get it from michael jackson? where do you look at? >> if he was the person that administered this drug and he wasktor tending to him and knows this drug can only be administered in the hospital,

regardless of whether it was received by someone else. first i would start with dr. murray. >> and mark, you hear charges may be filed. you're the attorney for dr. murray. what do you look for? we know, for example, there was problem with some of the evidence. the house wasn't secured. do you look at any of that or do you just do -- >> look at everything. i'm sure that the lawyers have done a parallel investigation at the same time. so while the cops are investigating this, dea is investigating this, my investigator's out there. i've got a team of investigators that would be out there if they're doing it. the thing that is going to be probably one of the biggest problems for him is i think one of the things we can say definitively that isn't speculation is he did talk to the cops and he talked to lapd for hours. if you talk with them for hours and he admitted he's the one who gave diprivan, propofol, to michael jackson, and if it's found in the body the next thing

i'm going to do, i'm going to want to as a defense lawyer, get an expert in there to tell me what's going on, how did that interact with michael jackson's body? that's going to be where robin is going to zone in on. she's absolutely correct. any d.a., especially the d.a.s i suspect are handling this case right now are going to take a real, hard look at whether this is an implied malice murder case, a second-degree murder case. you're going to find doctors everywhere who say, look, you don't administer diprivan anywhere outside of a hospital. unless you have a hospital setting in that house, itself, that's a real problem. that's what's going to give me pause as the defense lawyer. >> so, trent, this could be a step up, then, from manslaughter and go right to a murder case. do you look -- if you represent this doctor and say, wait a minute, this wasn't the only thing in his system, there were other doctors involved, i was simply the last guy there -- >> yeah. the reality is part of his defense is going to have to be,

look, i'm the last man standing. >> he even said that. >> i am not the guy who either administered this drug, provided this drug or gave him this drug in any shape, form or fashion. that's going to be one of the things. as mark indicated a second ago, he would have his paralleled investigation going on at this point. he'd have a team of investigators looking to some of the very same things that are happening from the d.a.'s perspective. the problem with that is i don't think that's happening. i mean, he's got a lawyer who is in texas. he's got a lawyer who now apparently has got b a lawyer. i think when you have a lawyer also getting a lawyer, you have problems. >> i've never heard of a lawyer getting a lawyer. >> i have. one of the problems is, someone komgt comes to me and says, will you take my antitrust case? i can't tell you the number of inquiries i get on a daily or monthly basis to take cases out of case. if it's a federal case, i'll do

it. when you are talking about going in, stepping in the middle of a investigation you know little about, don't know the intimate culture in los angeles, don't know the players at all, you don't know lapd which is saying something, and then you offer up your guy for 3 1/2 hours, i feel for this lawyer in texas. i mean, he probably took that -- larks pd told him, look, you're not a target, this guy's not a target. we just want to talk to him. it's just an investigation. as i tell my client, when the cops lie to you, the supreme court says that's okay. you lie to the cops, that's a separate offense. that's a criminal offense. >> look, before we jump the gun of these other discussions, part of the analysis has got to be, diprivan found in the house. diprivan might have been give to michael jackson by another doctor. was diprivan found in his system? diprivan is one of those drugs that comes out of your system quickly. unless the test was done almost

immediately after michael jackson's demise, unless that happened quickly, there may not be evidence -- >> we're going to hit that in a minute. also, why hasn't michael jackson been buried, or has he? we're back in 60 seconds with some answers. open... to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. betall day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.

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professional. an m.d. he knows what he's doing. he's performing cpr. he was keeping michael jackson alive, according to him. >> carlos, the autopsy report, we're still waiting for that. these reports are still premature, to say that we know what killed michael jackson. because we don't. >> right, you guys are all talking about when charges are going to be filed. i think the thing we have to look at first is the toxicology report and when it comes back. even though diprivan could be out of the system, that's going to offer up a much clearer analysis of what killed michael jackson. talking about a timeline, new reports, today, of course, the emts showed up and didn't know they were working on michael jackson. they thought they were working on sickly old man. it took them ten minutes to realize they were working on michael jackson after they got there. other reports saying today that dr. conrad murray did not at all, reconfirming earlier reports, did not want to pronounce michael jackson at the house. >> he wanted to make sure he was

brought to the hospital. >> he wanted him at the hospital and kept performing cpr which the emts thought was strange. >> you can look at that and think, he didn't want to get hit with it but he wanted to revive this guy. he claimed he had a slight pulse minutes before. >> i don't think for a second that's the most -- or damning mess. ted's point is correct and what he's going to argue. when you have emts come out, they are there to stabilize somebody long enough to get them to a doekter. if you have a doctor calling 911 to get somebody to take him to the doctor. the doctor's there. if the doctor knows what he's doing and charged with taking care of michael jackson, he should be there working on michael jackson, not calling the chef or anything else. >> robin, i spoke with one doctor who teld me he's seen the second autopsy report. he said there are 19 doctors being investigated. 19. let's assume even half that many

are being investigated. wouldn't this doctor say, wait a minute, i'm not alone here. i'm not the bad guy. i'm just the last guy. >> this is the tweedle deand tweedle hum defense. i think we need to go back -- with the phone calls. there is a ton of consciousness, guilt. the fact dr. murray was nowhere to be found at the time the emt did finally arrive to transport him to the hospital. there are behavers that make you want to question. when you have a clear ring leader, evidence toward one person, it's easy to start there and work down on everybody else. >> any idea when the burial will take place? >> the family has been very clear they're not going to tell everybody and they want this to be a private part of this equation. there's probably discussion and disagreements as to what to do. >> their still waiting for the brain tissue to come back? >> apparently. >> a lot more to come. we'll be right back with more on "larry king live." oid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long.

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welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry tonight. so many strange reports coming out of this story. none, perhaps, more unusual than conflicting reports about whether michael jackson died with or without his nose. this is what dr. arnold klein, jackson's doctor, said to larry king. >> he came to me because basically i was sort of rebuilding his face because he had severe acne scarring. he had scarring from having a lot of cosmetic surgery.

my expertise, like with every one of my patients, my patients are my treasures. i was rebuilding his face so he looked much more normal. in contrary to what people said, he could not take off his nose. his nose was attached. it looked too small. i was trying to get him ready to do the concert. the way he looked in his face, he wanted to be absolutely as perfect as he could be. >> one person on our panel has actually represented michael jackson, mark geragos. i talked to one of jackson's -- no, no, no, no, i talked to one of jackson's doctors. this is ridiculous. what i'm going to ask you is, why do people care about this? >> because, have you seen some of the internet stuff on this case so far? it is the craziest thing i've seen. >> there are so many important issues. >> well, because it's really almost gotten to the point of absurdity in this. this show, for instance, has been doing -- we speculate every night for the last almost month. at a certain point because there's such a, kind of a news

blackout, anything starts to get speculated on. >> you agree, robin, though, today's development is significant? >> yes, i would agree. at least from the drug point of view. i don't think the news point of view is probably the most significant report. >> i agree. >> debbie rowe was seen at dr. arnie klein's office earlier today. we don't know the nature of her visit, whether she was actually seeing dr. klein. you represent debbie rowe. she's seeking custody, perhaps, of two of the three children? wouldn't you tell her to stay out of the limelight? >> i don't know it's a fact that she goes to her former employer's office is going to put her in the lismelight. i don't know if this woman can walk out of her house without having a throng of media following her. i fault her for making the rash statements and comments she's made to the media when she's been angry and she's upset. these aren't the kind of things you want -- if you want your client to appear to be normal,

rational, stable, in a position to care for these young children. i don't fault her for that but do fault her for some of the outbursts, directed toward the media. >> in debbie rowe's defense, i don't know her, however i do know the paparazzi. she was being stalked, for want of a better term. you don't know what it's like to be in a paparazzi crush until you're in one. it's dangerous at times. i agree with these guys. when you're basically -- when your character is on trial in the public eye as to whether or not you deserve prince, michael and paris jackson, you know, and when the only other video we see that week of paris on stage saying how much she misses her daddy and falling into janet jackson's arms, you have to be cognizant of the -- >> i have been in countless of these paparazzi skrums. it takes the patience to not

respond when you get some 14 care rat jerkoff. screaming, how much are you going to sell your kids? that's what they do. they purposefully try to provoke you. it takes all the -- >> here's somebody who -- >> she was going out to get something to eat. >> yeah, but she shouldn't be a prisoner in her own home. >> what are you supposed to do when you have people taking you apart? demonizing you? she has very good counsel. an excellent lawyer. i'm sure he's counseled her. frankly, i think for anybody to condemn her for her outburst, i think that's only unreasonable. whatever you want to say about her, having to put up with the paparazzi skrum on a constant basis is enough to drive anybody over the top. >> ted, the custody hearing is set for next monday. her attorney saying anything whatsoever? >> no, but not publicly, but

statements today from katherine jackson's attorney indicate saying they are moving ahead and it looks like this is going to be resolved outside of the courtroom. debbie rowe has never said publicly -- we don't know that she's looking for custody of these children by any stretch of the imaginimagination. i think she's trying to ensure certain things happen for the kids. >> let's listen to katherine jackson's attorney today on the "today" show. >> we do believe we're close to reaching an agreement and the swirling speculation is just swirling speculation. >> is it a financial agreement? >> the agreement is a custody agreement. whatever the agreement will be will not be based on money. that was not the -- >> will it involve money? >> the agreement about custody is not a money issue. >> we'll get reactionoissue rig. . my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart. i'm going to be grandma for a long time.

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back with our panel. to trent copeland. trent, we just heard from katherine jackson's attorney saying they're trying to work something out outside of the courtroom. that's what the judge asked for. that's really in the best interest of the kids, isn't it? >> i think it is in the best interest. i know this lawyer. he's an outstanding lawyer and i think that he will probably try to put together some kind of agreement with both sides, where they can feel like they've gotten something. i think debbie rowe from her perspective may not be looking for custody necessarily but may be looking for some sort of custodial right, looking so she'll have the opportunity to see these kids from time to time. >> mark geragos, you've been defending debbie rowe tonight and rightfully so. her lawyer has said she doesn't

want money. she doesn't want money. it's really been cast unfairly toward her, don't you think? >> i mean, there's been for years people who have vilified her without knowing any of the facts. i don't even know the ins and the outs. i never represented him on custody. i did represent him in what was a, yet, another of the unfounded things against him, the child protective services investigation. that was completely unfounded. those kids were immensely, at least the older two i saw interact with him, were immensely tied to him, in love with him. he took great care of them. the kids belong with katherine, and as i said before, if grace is in the picture, that gives me more confidence. >> we're going to take phone calls now. right now, houston, texas. you're on the air. >> caller: hi, thank you. does anyone know what clothes michael jackson might have been wearing when the paramedics arrived at his home to take care of him? because that would be a telltale sign that he may not have even

left the bed in the morning and could have been earlier that he was having trouble. >> we haven't had enough speculation. mark geragos is almost laughing. caller, that's a legitimate question. i don't know if anyone knows the answers. ted, you were at the hospital. >> we don't know what he was wearing by any stretch. one thing we do know, according to murray, through his lawyer, jackson was in his bed, in his bedroom and murray went to check on him. he was either taking a nap or hadn't waken up for the day. >> robin sax, when mark talks about the crazy insanity surrounding -- investigators are looking into whether employees at the l.a. county coroner's office leaked information about the certificate, personal files. how serious should people take this? >> i think whenever someone leaks information that comes from -- that's pif ledged, private information from within an investigation, it always

jeopardized the integrity of a potential case, the future of the case and it is something that definitely needs to be looked at thoroughly if that happens. >> it's a government code section. whether it's a cop who does it or somebody in the coroner's office or anybody else, i wish they would -- what they need to do is prosecute one or two of these and it would stop happening. as long as there's outlets willing to write a check for $62,000 and $500 for this, that or the other thing, it's going to happen. >> another call for houston. caller, you're on the air. >> caller: hi, i have a twofold question. first, what is the difference between second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter, and if dr. murray is found guilty, what are the consequences for both? >> the second-degree murder is what's called an implied malice murder which means you don't -- you didn't necessarily intend it, you did something so recklessly that it caused the

death. the main difference between that and the manslaughter is the penalty. the penalty for manslaughter is two, three or four years in state prison. the penalty for a second-degree implied malice murder is 157 to li to life. >> our thanks. we'll have reactions from medical professionals including michael jackson's nutritionist. what does she have to say on her file and the subpoena served on her earlier this month? 50+ advantage... day ms has gingko for memory and concentration. plus support for heart health. that's a great call. one a day men's. towels, sheets and then there was the stuff he wanted... like a new microwave. and because of walmart's unbeatable prices, we were able to get it all. ...and then some.

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welcome back. i'm jim moret from "inside edition" filling in for larry king. tomorrow night larry has an exclusive interview with colin powell. joining us now, cherilyn lee, michael jackson's nutritionist. dr. drew pinsky. author of "the mirror effect: celebrity narcissism seducing america." he sat in this chair friday night. did a great job. executive director of the wonderland center. recovering cocaine and heroin addict with 24 years of sobriety. thank you all of you for joining us.

cherilyn, first to you. i remember early on seeing you do an interview with anderson cooper early in this investigation. you made a bombshell statement four days before michael jackson died, he called you and was desperate for diprivan. i remember watching that and thinking, she's crazy. within 24 hours, not only did the investigation turn around but you're the unsung hero of this investigation, because you directed a focus on a drug that would probably be overlooked. how did this come to happen? how did you come to treat michael jackson? >> i started with him in late january actually working with his children. i had a call. one call, he said his children had a little cold. he wanted something nutritionally for the cold. so i went in and did a complete assessment of the children. when i finished, michael asked me, well, what else do you do? i said, well, what's going on with you? he said, well, i'm a little tired. i'm getting ready for a concert and would like to pick up my energy. i said, well, let's do lab work.

i did a full routine lab panel. >> was he healthy? >> he was very healthy. >> when you saw him, this is january -- >> this is the first of february now. >> there was nothing looking at him that would make you think this guy's in trouble? >> no, no organ troubles whatsoever. >> really? >> none. >> dr. drew -- >> that doesn't surprise me. not at all. if i had seen howard samuels at age 20, i wouldn't have been able to tell what was going on. it's hard to dedetect those kinds of things. larry using pharmaceuticals. >> michael jackson specifically asked for a drug by name. >> he asked cherilyn about that too. extraordinary. she must have been shocked to hear the name of the drug. >> i didn't know what it was. i called a very dear friend of mine based in los angeles, who's a friend. he happens to be a physician. i called him, since i knew he was working that day. i said, look, what is this?

he explained to me what it was. i said, my goodness. he didn't know where i was. he didn't know i was with mr. jackson. >> given that reaction, what do you think of the report that dr. murray may have, in fact, been the one to give this to him? >> well, you know, if i say anything, it will be kind of speculating because i don't know if he did. >> what would you think about a doctor who gave this medication out of a hospital setting? >> what i said earlier, don't do it because it's very unsafe and no one would do that and should not do that for money. >> description of what michael was going through at the time when he was demanding these medications. in my world, my patients complain of that all the time, exactly what she described. drug withdrawal. diprivan would have taken that away in an instance. >> howard, imagine you're a doctor and your patient comes to you and says, i want diprivan, i need diprivan. give it to me. we heard today, it may have in fact happened just that way. >> that's the real tragedy here.

cherilyn, i have to applaud you for saying no, for taking a stand with somebody. if the other doctors in this man's life, michael jackson, had done that, he might be alive today. >> great point. >> that, to me, is the issue, is that these doctors are seduced by the rich and famous. okay? by the pre steej of it, by the money of it. i've worked with clients who pay doctors $50,000 a month. >> on retainer? >> on retainer. they'll show up at the house at 3:00 in the morning. what is sad here and what we have to do, we have to education america. there is a crisis going on here. not only with prescription drugs, which we get at wonderland all the time, abuse, addiction from doctors. you see the same thing, drew. is that it's the same as getting heroin on the street. there is no difference, and if we don't start educating the families to be able to intervene and to get in there when they see the signs and do everything

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we're going to hear michael jackson's song in a moment. cherilyn, you were served with a subpoena. i want to make it clear. you're not a person of interest. you were subpoenaed because you can't simply hand over medical records, is that correct? >> correct. i was subpoenaed by e-mail. yes. >> what records was the coroner interested in? >> i would like to say, too, i was not only subpoenaed by e-mail, i was asked that i could also fax over the record. >> did you ask the coroner to come over in person? >> not allowed to. >> i have a copy of the subpoena stating, here's the phone number, just fax them over. i said, you know, i called back

and said i really don't want to fax over the record. i prefer to hand-give them to you. they're very in-depth and i don't want to fax you. this female i spoke to said, i can pick them up from you. i said, i can bring them to you. she said, i can pick them up for you. another gentleman showed up. >> what kind of records were they looking for? >> they wanted a hard copy about what i had already said about the diprivan. >> drew, we were talking during the break, if cherilyn had not come forward, if you do the autopsy, you're not going to look for diprivan. >> i wonder how they're going to screen for it such as it is with them looking for it. >> howard, when you hear a doctor being linked to this substance you can't get outside of a hospital setting -- you've got a lot of experience. you know -- you talk about doctors being on retainer. have you ever heard of anything to this level?

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announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. let's check in with anderson cooper and see what's coming up at ac 360. >> jim, thanks very much. at the top of the hour on 360, breaking news regarding michael jackson. we're looking at dr. conrad murray's medical history and how he came into michael jackson's ror bit. we're looking at the timeline of events surrounding jackson's

death. we know when the 911 call came. why were people making some suspicious moves three hours before that 911 call? randi kaye is looking into that for us. the dispatch calls that led police to dr. henry lewis gates' house. speculation about what was and what wasn't said in the calls. was race mentioned, for instance? can you hear the exchange? all that plus sarah palin's good-bye to alaska's governorship. she did not go quietly. what she said and what's next for her. it's a busy night. starts in 12 minutes, jim. >> a lot coming up at the top of the hour. cherilyn lee, as michael jackson's nutritionist, when he comes to you and says i need diprivan, you showed him -- it explains -- >> it's like the bible of medicine. >> and you show him the listings for this drug and said this is

what it can do? >> yes, i left his house, drove back to my office and came back with the book because he was not getting it from me. >> you were stunned when you saw him? >> i was definitely stunned. >> what was his reaction? >> his reaction was you don't understand. i'm going to be monitored so i will be safe. i see what the book is saying but i'll be monitored. you know, someone monitoring me and i'll be safe. >> drew, i hear from cherilyn something that's frightening. it's a patient saying i'm okay because a doctor will be there. >> not okay, but when a patient asks for medication by name, dose and route on administration, there is a problem. it's not the first time. think about it, jim. give me this medicine. we'll be cardiac monitoring you throughout the night. it's happened before. whatever medicine, it's an adulteration of the physician/patient relationship. >> howard, if you are hooked or believe you are hooked on something, you look past that.

>> as a recovering addict, i manipulated doctors. i manipulated everyone to get the drug i wanted. that's common. >> i asked one doctor, was michael jackson >> i asked if michael was doctor shopping and someone said no, doctors are shopping him. >> i believe that. >> it doesn't surprise you? >> absolutely not. >> do you think things will change, drew? >> i think this will change things. some of my patients who have been receiving medications have suddenly begin migrating, leaving los angeles. probably a sign the doctors are pulling back but they found elsewhere to go for this. >> what possible reasons, drew, could a doctor have, if dr. murray used dip rovann, what could he say to the authorities? >> as a justification? >> yes. >> the only thing i can imagine him saying is this a protocol established by somebody else.

the fact is, insomnia, there is not a textbook that will put dip rovann for the treatment of insomnia. to say it is outside of common practice or off label would be an understatement. he will say i was there to do the monitoring. >> cherilyn lee, dr. drew pinsky, howard samuels, thank you. >> we had planned to play michael jackson's song "morphine" we had a problem with the clip. the 911 tape that raises as many questions as it answers. hear it for yourself right after this. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announceit keeps my airways. to help me breathe better all day long.

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edition" sitting in for larry king. lucia whalen's 911 call led to the arrest of henry lewis gates. wendy is known as a victims' rights advocate. the 911 call was released. listen. >> i don't know if they live there and if they had a hard time with their key, but i did notice they used a shoulder to try to barge in and they got in. i don't know if they had a key or not because i couldn't see from my angle. >> black or hispanic? are they still in the house? >> they are still in the house. >> white, black or hispanic? >> two larger men. one looked kind of hispanic and the other one entered and i didn't see what he looked like at all. i saw from a distance. this older woman was worried

someone is breaking in someone's house. she interrupted me otherwise i probably wouldn't have noticed it at all. i'm calling because she was a concerned neighbor, i guess. >> okay. are you standing outside? >> i am standing outside. >> all right. police are on the way. what is your name? >> my name is. [ audio deleted ] >> i guess the first thing that jumped out is why does lucille whalen who placed this 911 call need an attorney? >> she doesn't need an attorney, jim. she called me because she wanted to know if she had any rights. people were calling her racist. one columnist said she would wear the badge of the kkk. she was feeling threatened. people were saying we know where you live. she felt afraid but she said seasoned this libel? isn't this slander?

i should call a lawyer. she wanted to know her rights. >> is she afraid for her safety? >> she was. i think she is not afraid tonight. let me tell you, i think she feels proud of herself. now we've heard the tape we should feel proud of her. she was exemplary. the way she responded, how she was restrained. you couldn't ask for a more clear headed 911 caller. she even said at one point, i don't know if they live there, they've got suitcases. she was excellent. she is not afraid tonight she is rather proud. >> she didn't know if the person had a key. she was very level headed, very calm. she couldn't see both people and this is a key point, nowhere in this call does your client mention race until she is pressed by the dispatcher and then she is not clear about both

of the individuals. >> that's right. we issued that statement yesterday, jim. thankfully the tape was released and confirmed everything we said. she never, ever said i see two black men. she never used the word black at all. she never mentioned race until asked by the 911 operator are they white, black or hispanic. she said i think one is hispanic. i didn't see the other one. what is important here is she has been vilified, characterized as the racist spark that ignited the fire of hatred and nothing could be further from the truth. if you compare her behavior to sergeant crowley's and professor gates, i think she wins the prize for the most level headed of all. she was really the silent victim behind the scenes, the one people said she's the problem. had they been white she never would have called 911. we know that is absolutely not

true. i'm glad for her the truth is finally out. >> how did lucia happen to be there? >> she works 100 yards. she worked there for 15 years. she is not a resident. she is not a neighbor. >> she didn't see the professor? >> she didn't see him. she described the other man and his back was to her. she knows him perhaps as a famous person. didn't know he lived there. >> cambridge police have released tapes to the radio transmission to the law enforcement responses to the case. let's listen briefly to that. >> can you have the caller come to the front door? >> she's at her house. she doesn't live there. she's a witness in this. >> the gentleman says he resides her. but is uncooperative but keep the cars coming. >> so wendy, your client makes

the 911 call, set the record straight, the sergeant said he spoke to miss whalen on the scene. does she dispute that? >> well, she does. sort of. let me correct the record. i'll explain to you what the police response has been. when sergeant crowley arrived she lifted her finger and indicated i'm the one who called 911. he said, okay, stay right there and he went into the house. that was the full extent of their conversation. she never spoke to him about describing anybody or talking about backpacks. all she said was i'll wait right here. let me be very clear, she never ever said she saw two black men or any black men and backpacks.