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and can catch her third report in the third hour. thelma, thank you so much. we will continue to follow up the story on that 8-year-old girl there in phoenix, arizona, hoping that she is put in a's safe home. that does it for us. we will be back here tomorrow. t.j. holmes in for rick sanchez. he takes it from here. health care, will it have a public form? details that may force president obama to choose sides within his own party. new information, a raid at the office of michael jackson's personal doctor. home-grown terror. >> this day and age, you don't know who your neighbors are. >> authorities say one of these men traveled outside the u.s. to learn killer tactics.
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was this group really dangerous? would you believe this guy actually finished third in the race? your national conversation for tuesday, july 28th, starts right now. >> good afternoon, everybody. thank you for being here. i am t.j. holmes sitting in for risk sanchez. i want to show you what we have been watching. take a look at these pictures we have been getting out of vegas. two different pictures here. on one side of your screen, you are seeing the home. on one side, you are seeing the office of michael jackson's doctor. police today, dea, and others, have raided those places, searching that home and that office today. lapd officers have been going through the house. we don't know what they are looking for or finding. they have been taking some items out. dea agents as well as mr. murray's office. we are live on the ground,
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keeping an eye on this story. we have our people live on the ground. we will get back to it in just a moment. just wanted to update you on that fast-moving and developing story. i want to get to health care. the president seems to have a steep climb. it seems to be getting steeper today. key members of congress are poised to reject his preference for government-run insurance, a public option that would compete with private providers. this could be a really big deal. this is one of the cornerstones of the president's health care reform plan. we have six senators to tell you about. three democrats and three republicans. they have been meeting for the past few days, really, been meeting hour after hour behind closed doors to find a plan that everybody can be happy with. max baucus, ken con red, jeff bing aman. three represent kifs, olympia snowe, chuck grassley and enzi. they are set to reject
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government-run insurance. it might not be something that both sides and the public can stomach. they have another plan. these six senators are talking about doing something else. they are talking about doing something that's called a nonprofit provider of health care or a co-op that would force competition on the private insurers that kind of might be the same as a government system. the same thing the government-run system would do but you are calling it a different name, some are saying. all right. this could be where we are headed. would the president even go for this? he might have to even though his strongest supporters say, no public option, no deal. senator debbie stabenow, democrat of michigan, you have to help us all with this thing. before we get into the co-op and the government-run option. tell me, first, you are party of this committee. tell me how close the committee is to actually getting something that all sides agree on and getting a bill out of that committee? >> well, i think we are close.
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six members that you talked about, the bipartisan group, has really been working night and day. we, as democrats met today. we will meet again tomorrow. i think we have honed in on what the issues are and the options are and people are working very, very hard. so we are close. t.j., i have to say that the most important thing here is to really get it right. we want to get it soon. people have been waiting way too long in this country. it has to be right, because it affects everybody. >> you say soon. i hate to put you on the spot but i am going to do it anyway. you think possibly this week? >> i think it is possible to have an agreement that would go to what's called a markup, basically voting in finance next week. i think a lot of work has to be done in order to make that happen. >> help me now with this so-called public option, this government-run option that's been polled out there. is that still on the table? have you gotten to the point that you know that the bill is going to come out of your committee will not have the
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president's preference of a government-run insurance option? >> well, first of all, t.j., i support a public health option that farreirly competes with th private sector? i think it brings down costs and adds to the coverage option for people. there are a number of tables. on the finance table, what we are seeing is that rather than something called a public option shall the co-op approach, which is another way to do a nonprofit consumer driven option, focused on patients and consumers. that's what's being talked about in finance. we have another table called the health commit it, the health committee that brought out a public option. we have another table called the house of representatives that has a public option. we are in the middle of the process. the bottom line, when all of this is done, is that we need to make sure that people can keep what they have if they want to and that we are strengthening and fixing the problems that we have right now in health care. >> senator, i today get back to
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this point, because this is a really big deal to a lot of folks, the associate president reported that, in fact, they were talking to someone and said that that committee and those six senators were looking at a compromise that would take away the government-run, public-run option. i heard what you were saying. it might be called a co-op. from what the president wants, which he is clear, he wants this government-run option. is that no longer something under consideration in your xhi committee? >> let me first stress, i support the president in his position with where he is but it is going to be difficult to get that option out of the finance committee. that's been one of the sticking points. so, the negotiators are looking at something else that would achieve the same purpose. so that's the bottom line. finance committee will have it's approach and then we will go on and keep working. >> so not looking at that option
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anymore. you said you are or senator baucus, the chair of the committee came out and he does, he talks to the president every single day. i am sure he comes back and reports to you all, the full committee. how is the president taking this news that that government-run option, that public option that he has been so much an advocate for, is not something that's going to come out of your committee? >> well, i haven't talked directly to the president about this recently. i do know that he understands that this is a process. he was a member of the senate. he understands that this is a process and that we have to look at where the support is in the finance committee. then, with he we go to the floor. when you talk about the full senate, all of the senators together. it's a step by step process. i think my guess is what the president would say is, do the best you can and we'll keep working to fine tune it. >> eric cantor, representative, republican from virginia, came out a short time ago speaking about, again, so many committees
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with so many plans and nothing that comes out is going to be final. let's take a quick listen and let our viewers here what he had to say about how things are going. let's take a quick listen. >> the reality of what president obama is proposing is putting the government in competition with those in the private sector. employers, one after the other, have said, if you do that, there will be no other option then for us to shed our health care and allow all of our employees to go into the government plan. when you look at it, those that have health care in this country, an overwhelming number of americans like what they have. they say it is too expensive. >> you hear there talking about what could happen down the road with a government option. i need you to be as frank as you can. how much of this is about semantics and what members of congress are going to be able to go back and talk to their constituents about, when they go
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back and say, yes, i voted for this government-run option. a lot of people are going to say, i don't want the government running my health care. i don't want soclized medicine. you hear that as well. how much of this is semantics, what you can sell to the people? >> i think it is more than semantics. there are some real differences between the plans. understand that people that are out there throwing out all kinds of words that aren't accurate are just "no" crowd. we know the status quo is a disaster down the road. public option, co-ops, having competition with the private sector is part of this. for people that have insurance today, it is about making sure they don't lose their jobs, that they have another option, that they don't lose their insurance. there is a lot more to this than just that one issue, as important as it is. i would just say, if these purely private sector insurance
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company system had worked well, i wouldn't be standing here today talking to you. we wouldn't be having this debate. the reality is, it hasn't worked for too many people. 80% of the people that currently don't have insurance are working for a small business, can't afford health insurance. so we've got even more than the current private insurance company system. frankly, the person standing between you and your doctor right now is an insurance company bureaucrat. that's not worked too well for an awful lot of people. so what we are talking about is how to make the system work better for people. >> senator stabenow, a lot of people are waiting by, standing by anxiously to see what comes out of your committee. ma'am, we appreciate you so much for taking the time and giving us the update. you have a good rest of the day. >> thanks so much. well, here is another story, a lot of people are talking about, that guy, the nfl has now reinstated michael vick. that doesn't mean he will be playing immediately, however.
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who will pick him up? what team would give him a chance? we'll talk to an expert about the pros and cons of michael vicks return and his market ability. the fedding raid a home in north carolina and arrest several jihad suspects. also, are we close enough to finding out how michael gentleman can son died. the police narrow their focus to michael jackson's personal doctor. we have live reports coming up. don't go anywhere. aarp understands that. that's why they endorse products from top companies... so people 50 plus can choose health coverage options... as unique as they are. aarphealthnow.com... call or visit for free information that let you select the coverage you want... and skip what you don't. let's say you want to start your own business. a major medical plan could make it easy... to get those employer-like health benefits. you may want dental coverage, too. call now and find plans that include...
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michael jackson trying to figure out exactly how he died. it has turned now possibly to investigators trying to find out who may have killed him. police are looking at his doctor now investigating what role the doctor played in this. the pictures you are looking at, i believe i have live pictures out of las vegas, the home of the doctor, dr. conrad murray is his name. we have been watching these pictures for some time today. dr. murray was a personal physician who our sources are now saying to us administered the fatal dose of a powerful drug that authorities do believe killed michael jackson. los angeles police officers, also, dea agents are there at the doctor's home. they are serving there and the doctor's office. what they found, exactly what they are looking for, not necessarily clear at this time. the dea is, again, on this case. the fbi is on this case. l.a. investigators are on this case. you can stay here with cnn.
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welcome back, everybody. t.j. holms sitting in for rick sanchez. a lot of people are talking about health care and trying to figure out what is going to come out of a lot of committees on the hill. we have just ht a conversation with debbie stabenow, a democrat from michigan. talking about things that might be in and might be out. that has a lot of you talking already. we goal over here and check out some of the tweets you all have
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sent us. the one at the very top says, we americans go to doctors way too often and demand drugs. take better care of yourself and prices will go down. that's one way to look at it. right below that, this is not necessarily here at cnn. this is addressed to congress. de dear congress, avoid the red pill and the blue pill, take a chill pill and kill this bill. the one under that, keep the public option and narrow the mandate. the one below that, cannot afford to cut a public option. it needs a mandate. >> a lot of people reacting to the fact that the senate finance committee doesn't appear they will be able to get their bill out with the public option that the president is certainly in favor of. we shall see. we will turn back now to michael jackson. michael jackson, as we know, had a personal doctor.
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that doctor now has a lawyer. today, the lawyer said a bunch of the talk we have been hearing about rumors and innuendo coming from unnamed sources saying, don't believe the stuff. we are looking at pictures. the doctors home there has been raided today by authorities. we have been watching this for the past several hours. we have seen police, dea agents, with search warrants going in and out of the home of dr. conrad murray in las vegas. they are searching the doctor's office. we don't know what they are looking for or what they took. ted roland is there for us. you have been covering the story and what's happening today, we lost his picture. we will try to get him right back up. ted roland on the scene there. we have another senior producer who is over at the doctor's office as well. we do have him as well. let's go to him. paul, i believe you are with me. what's happening over there at the doctor's office where you
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are? >> well, t.j., as you said, they are over there at the house. over here at the doctor's office, for three hours now, dea agents along with other officers have gone inside conducting what the dea calls a record search. they are not just looking for paper. they sent in an elite team of cyb cyber slooths hop on down the cyber trail and find out what they can find about possible drug use and dr. murray and michael jackson. they are looking at hardware, software, anything they think can provide a clue of what might have happened to michael jackson. no doubt, they are looking for something called diprivan, that very powerful drug that's supposed to only be used in hospital settings. they want to see if any of these records, if there is evidence that perhaps dr. murray had
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prescribed diprivan or propofol to michael jackson. this he have not emerged. you know the old joke. you know they say you can't read doctor's handwriting but on a computer, it is pretty hard to type in scribble, t.j. >> that is a very good point, paul. he is on the scene at the doctor's office. over at the doctor's home is ted roland. tell me, ted, what's been going on. >> reporter: we understand that dr. murray is in the home as this search warrant is executed. they have been at it for three hours. they entered the home at 9:15, about a half dozen from the dea. we are told they are looking for documents as part of the ongoing investigation into michael jack
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sons death. dr. conrad murray has three separate search warrants. one last week in houston and two going on simultaneously here in las vegas. >> what do we know they are looking for in that house and how much have we seen them take out of that house? >> we vice president seen them take anything out, which is odd, t.j. they may be putting it all in one area, in houston. it was sort of a constant stream of things coming out of that clin i clinic. we haven't seen anything come out. they brought some stuff in in cases. we are told that they are looking at computer. they are looking at computers inside the house. they may be making a cope of computer hard drives, as they did in houston. they cope everything and will take their cope out of there. that is one thing they are doing. we haven't seen them take anything out as of yet. >> you said he is actually in the house while all of this is
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going on. do we have any idea if he is -- what he is doing in there, if they are questioning him? is he being cooperative? >> reporter: there has been no indication he has not been cooperative. we watched them enter the house. they knocked on the door. they were in within a few minutes. so a neighbor has told us he is in that house. we have not been able to confirm that through his attorneys. a neighbor here who lives in the neighborhood says he is in the house and he has been spending most of the past few weeks in this house. right now, we are actually seeing for the first time in a few hours dea agents and others exiting the house and carrying nothing. just some folks leaving the house but not the bags of evidence that we saw at least in the houston search. >> ted rowlands on the scene. if anything else pops up, please get back to us. we appreciate you. thank you so much. >> okay. authorities say that north carolina man is the ring leader of a group allegedly plotted terror attacks abroad. seven already in custody.
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sonia sotomayor, no stranger to personal and professionals hurdles. she cleared another one on this day. check it out. what you are seeing is the united states senate judiciary committee voting in favor of sending sonia sotomayor's name to the full senate vote to make her justice on the u.s. supreme court. no surprises around the table. every democrat voted aye, as did one republican senator, lindsey graham, of north carolina -- south carolina. i think i might have said north carolina accidentally. the one republican you remember that lindsey graham of south carolina did have some tough questions for you.
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a lot of people still thought he was respectful and a statesman during the questioning and he did go ahead and vote for her. we will turn now to north carolina where we got some disturbing news. self-described, good family guy gearing up to fight and kill another country. the feds are figuring all of this out and have a bunch of people in cuss stoes. that's next. ng fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day. avo: are you on medicare? are you using cpap therapy for sleep apnea? then here's a message from liberty medical. over time, cpap parts stretch and wear out. you should replace your mask, cushion and filter
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afghanistan and pakistan 20 years ago in the name of holy war. they described him, neighbors did, as an unassuming drywall worker. the neighbors wondered what was going on when the feds swooped down on his street. this looked like a pretty big deal. six other sons are in their 20s and arrested. agents are now searching for an eighth person who went to pakistan in october to quote in violent jihad. those are the words coming from the u.s. government. the attorney in raleigh tells us agents expect to apprehend this eighth person soon and the public should not be worried. we see boyd and three other men, alleged coconspirators all living in north carolina. all accused of violent jihad
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abroad. we have a former assistant director in the fbi. what first jumped out at you? >> the biggest news is that they are all u.s. citizens. six of the seven born here. one naturalized. all u.s. citizens become radicalized and particularly daniel patrick boyd himself making his first trip in 1989, when he was only 19 years old. we didn't have tens of thousands of internet jihadi websites. a person born in the united states, son of a united states marine houchlt did he get converted to jihad? >> we don't have that answer. should we be worried we don't have that answer? terrorism has been around a long time. 9/11 changed a lot of things. to think all these years before 9/11 that in 89, in young american could have been
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radicalized. should we be worried we are missing something? >> not that we are missing something. this is the u.s. government's worse fear in my years with the fbi traveling overseas. i continuously heard that how jealous they were in the united states we assimilate immigrant populations that were very unlikely to have subjects or citizens of the u.s. become radicalized. we have had a couple of investigations determine that we have had u.s. born citizens suddenly decide to become jihadists. >> why elsewhere? why would they want to go elsewhere to this holy war? why would the target in your opinion not have been for these guys, the united states? >> we don't know for sure it wouldn't have been. so far, there was no indication they intended to attack here. all indications in the investigations were that they were going to travel overseas to
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wage jihad. how do you know if that decision changes in their mind? you certainly don't want to take the chance. that's the huge dilemma for executive management of the fbi to determine how long to let the investigation go. you want to identify everybody and don't miss anybody that could be out there and violent. at the same token, the longer, the investigation goes, the greater the risk goes that one of them will get out of pocket and possibly commit an act here if they decided to do that. this is a very difficult dilemma. >> explain for our viewers that hear this. they were hear on u.s. soil. they were planning not to attack the u.s. but still you are violating u.s. law. >> they acquired quite a stockpile of weaponry. in this case, it didn't appear they were going to form a gun club or go hunting. they acquired weapons for
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hunting peek, ak-47s, as well as high-power sniper rifles and miss tols. they a they are telling each other and other people when they are trying to recruit other jihadists and combine that with going into a rural area of north carolina and conducting military type training where boyd was teaching the sons an the others how to use that weaponry to commit murder. >> tom fuente, we appreciate you walking us through some of this scary, scary stuff. >> t.j., if i could add one last point -- >> please, please. >> the fbi was concerned about. president obama has been planning a visit to raleigh, north carolina. the takedown of these arrests
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was strictly coincidental. the fbi has been planning this with the bureau of investigation as well as raleigh and durham police departments. this takedown has been in process for three weeks. all traveling to north carolina to plan out this arrest so that we would not have a large barricade hostage type situation. and all of the subjects to be taken into custody without incident. >> the president, i believe, was leaving there tomorrow. another town hall talking about health care there tomorrow but your right. some coincidental timing but not linked. we appreciate you making the connection, tom. got some video for you to check out. speed boat, hydroplaning goes airborne, during a race. even more amazing is what happened to the driver. stick with us for that. also, the co-pilot of a plane that crashed in buffalo
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forth his understanding of more troops. we don't have a good number just yet. an additional amount of troops for afghanistan. they could go for combat or training of the afghan forces. already, the u.s. forces have added an additional 4,000 troops for that particular role. we are expecting possibly here from general mcchrystal, have him make his possible request in the coming weeks. he was supposed to submit this long-awaited assessment of the war some 60 days after he took over the job. so that's coming up. somewhere around mid-august when that is supposed to p ha. general mcchrystal, the man in charge of the war in afghanistan could be asking that more troops be sent to afghanistan, a place that increasingly has become more and more so president obama's war, many would say. we will keep an eye on that. we will continue to report to you. meanwhile, i want to go back to some video i showed you a moment ago. one of those things that leaves you scratching your head and going wow.
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take a look at it here. this looks like a disaster. but disaster was kind of averted. you saw it go up in the air, go airborne. again, i want you to not just watch it but listen to how this thing went down as well. take a listen. this happened over the week tend in washington, washington state. they are pretty serious about their boat racing, speed boat racing, on the come um bee ya river. it caught a little too much air. this is what happened when all of these things are moving at a high rate of speed. a little air gets up under them, because of the design, they get caught an they go up in the air. the pilot of the boat, he is doing just fine, not hurt at all. we understand he didn't finish too bad in the race. stay with us.
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it's been 5 1/2 months now since the cull began air flight 3407 crashed near buffalo, new york. all 49 passengers and crew members died. the more we learn about it, the more it sounds like to a lot of people that the tragedy was simply one that was waiting to happen. we've already heard that the pilot and co-pilot were tired. now, we know that the co-pilot was actually sick as well. senior correspondent, allen chernoff, has been looking at newly released cockpit transfers. >> reporter: as cull began air's
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flight 3407 prepared for takeoff from newark, co-pilot sniffled in the cockpit telling the captain, i am ready to be in the hotel room. she had flown as a passenger through the night from seattle to newark, new jersey, for the flight to buffalo. >> if i felt like this when i was at home, there is no way i would have come all the way out here but now that i am out here. >> you might as well. and hour and a half later, flight 3407 crashed five miles from the buffalo airport. there is no evidence that her illness caused the crash and air safety experts say there is no way to know for sure whether she was unfit to fly. >> every pilot has the right an the obligation to exercise their common sense and good judgment. >> reporter: cull began air puts blame on shaw saying flying fatigued or sick is not an option. every colgan air flight has a
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duty. >> it was a disaster from the moment it took off. >> reporter: the ntsb released an interview summary with executives where the pilot had studied piloting. he told the ntsb that his performance at the academy was above average. indeed, it was only later in his career that he repeatedly failed test drives, some of which he failed to disclose to colgan air. allan chernoff, cnn, new york. he is back. he is allowed to play in the nfl again but will anybody give him a chance? the remaking of michael vick. we will be sharing your comments also. mom vo: i can't do his history report for him.
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don't know if you have heard but michael vick is back. the man who was convicted or pleaded guilty in a dogfighting ring, being the head of it. spent 23 months in a jail sentence, served his time. he was suspended from the nfl, so he has now been reinstated on some condition. a team can hire him back.
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now, michael vick shall the former nfl and atlanta falcons quarterback. a team can hire him back even though he won't be able to play in a game until the sixth week or released possibly up to the sixth week of the season. all that is going on now. essentially, he is back. a lot of people having a debate now about whether or not i should be allowed to play. should he be given this second chance. a lot of you all are chiming in. we will go to the boar. i will start at the top with ron. saying he paid his debt. you bet i would take him. a lot of people have that opinion. >> yes, he paid his dues and is a great football player. >> regardless in michael vick paid his deuce, people will probably not forgive him. i bet he'll have a hard time finding a team. kirston said, there is no way vic would be anywhere near my team. she this is it is sad that he would be able to get his job
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back. one under says, i am a dog lover. i will never forget this man's abuse of animals for nfl has spoken and says he can come back to the league, a team will hire him at any point but then the commission letter make a decision by week six of the nfl season whether or not he can play in a regular season game. essentially, michael vick is back. can get his job back. now, the nfl says it is okay. which team is going to be interested in him and why would they be interested? our sports business analyst is going to be joining us next to discuss the remaking of michael vick. >> hey, rick, concerning letting michael vick back into an nfl franchise, if i were an owner, i would be concerned that it would affect butts in seats. i would just be concerned that it would affect ticket sale he is and that certainly there would be demonstrators at games.
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he's moneymaker, he is an excellent football player. he is one of the best, even now if you throw him on the field, i wouldn't because of all the pressure, but he has got to be at least in the top ten quarterbacks in the league. of course i would let him in. of course he made a mistake. he paid had his time in prison. let him in, let him make a living, let him prove that he has been rehabilitated. >> that is going to be a great debate for some time. it is not just a matter of whether or not he can get himself back into playing shape after being out of the league for some two-plus years. that is a big question anyway for a team to see if they are going to to sign him back up, perform like he once did. but also, all that is going to come with it the controversy, the cameras, the possible protests that is a big question. a lot of you-all are weighing in on the question of michael vick, inclu should he be allowed to play? love these tweets we have been getting, a lot coming in. astro chick, whatever, i don't
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name these folks, she says, i will boycott any team that signs vick. playing professional sports is a privilege, not a right. he forfeited that privilege. right under that, if it would help win games, yes, i would. also, one more that i will get in here, after week six and your quarterback is struggling, you'd wish you had michael vick. dude is an athlete, point blank. debt paid, let him play. go vick. so, again, a lot of sides to this debate, really maybe just two major sides emerging. let's go to rick, a friend of ours on cnn saturday morning, where i normally am, but helping us out, our business and sports analyst on the phone to break it down. rick, good to talk to you here during the week, my man. let's talk about this michael vick, that great debate. let's talk about, first, what's the bigger headache for a team or the bigger risk for a team, is it taking a gamble on this guy who has been out of professional sports for two
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years? can he perform or is it a bigger risk in that i have to take everything that's gonna come along with him, the possible protests and the cameras and the questions coming? >> well, my good friend, all the tweeter and the bloggers are correct. you feel both ways. probably small market team is going to take them. who to knows yet, but buffalo, jacksonville, tennessee, nashville, charlotte and washington are rumored to be in the hunt. and those teams have to weigh a few more victories, potentially, if he eases into an offense. he is a gifted athlete, against the marketing angst at a withato along with peta investigations and the fact that he had recurrent, repug nant and terrible behavior, although the other side of it, as you say, 23-month sentence is over. he lost $40 million in salary and endorsements. and most people say he paid his debt. but the controversy will plague that team no matter where he goes. >> you talk there about remaking
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this image. rick, can a team -- is it a team's responsibility, can they really help him, and i guess reshaping his image and helping him market himself or is it really solely up to michael vick to show who he is now? >> well, i think it is a little bit of both and you know it. michael vick has to stay on the recalcitrant, repet tant, straight and narrow path, but it is also up to a team to make it easy for him shine in that respective community. he may not be a role model but he better be a mold citizen. frankly, it is also the nfl. you got to remember the franchise value today, my friend, exceed on average $850 million. and in many ways, so goes vick, so goes the nfl. >> last thing here for you, rick, what has been the reaction so far among some of those animal rights groups? some of them were actually visiting him while he was in prison, wanting to sign him up and work with him, use had him as a tool, a spokesperson,
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essentially to discourage people from doing some of those acts he was doing with these dogs. what has been the reaction from his reinstatement from some of the groups now? >> nobody, my friend will excuse his behavior. the real question is do you give him a second chance and a third chance? and there are radicals who say absolutely not. i think most people agree that since the falcons released him, he deserves some kind of a second chance and time will tell whether he stays than straight and narrow. one of your bloggers says the best if the team is struggling and michael vick playing well and the team wins, all won't be forgotten but a long way toward that forgetting. >> said that was going to be the last one, i can't let you go without asking about tony dungy. tony dungy, one of the most well-respected coaches out there, former coach of the colts, now a mentor, signed up to be a mentor for michael vick. i guess with a -- how helpful will this be, image-wise, for one thing for michael vick? and i guess tony dungy has something on the line here as well? >> tony dungy is a man's man and
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a good christian and very, very, very well-respected by the league, by the teams and by michael vick. and that was one of the things commissioner goodell insisted on, as you know. so, the bottom line is, roger goodell said it is not about minimizing the young man and making him a loser. it is all about giving him the best opportunity to win. so it is very important to tony dungy, as it is to michael vick, as it is to one of the teams that signs him as it is to the nfl. >> rick horrow friend of ours on cnn weekend. >> see you in five days, man. i can't wait. by now, many of you heard that president obama will host henry lewis gates and sergeant crowley from the cambridge police department at the white house thursday night. the incident between the two men, the professor and the police officer, sparked a national debate, conversation about racial profiling. and cnn wants to hear from you about t on both sides, if you have been a victim, you think, of racial profiling, tell us
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your experience. and if you work in law enforcement, tell us the challenges you face policing a community. here is what some of our ireporters have been saying. >> a white town and a white person, you really can't do anything or say anything against anybody of color without being accused of being racist. on the flip side of that i think a lot of my own people, my own brothers and sisters, every time something is against them, they think it is racist. sometimes it sure is but it is not every time. >> i think we need to stop jumping to conclusion and have a real honest debate about race, but setting aside these assumed notions that only certain people can be racist and only certain people can be victims. >> my hope is that we don't make a good cop's mistake unforgivable because while we brow beat him or her, we may end up losing a good cop in the process. we can't
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