what he has to say on cnn.com and also plenty of other ideas about coping with the economy there for you as billion. that's it for us tonight. "larry king live" starts right "larry king live" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: tonight a prime time exclusive. here for the first time from someone who was in michael jackson's home the day he died. his personal chef reveals the harrowing second by second account of what happened before paramedics were called. screaming, sadness, chaos, an eyewitness account. plus, an coulter versus al sharpton. the war of words over professor gates and the cop that arrested him. why is another police officer in

big trouble over this whole mess? we'll show you his shocking public remarks. this exclusive response next on "larry king live." >> larry: a busy night. our first guest tonight is kai chase, she was michael jackson's personal chef and in his home the day he died. we'll talk to kai in just a moment. but first, let's go to randy kay with breaking news on dr. conrad murray and what investigators were looking for when they executed search warrants yesterday. randy, what happened? >> reporter: larry, as you know, there were two search warrants executed in las vegas, one is dr. conrad murray's home and the other in his clinic. those were filed today. so now the information on what they were looking for and what they found has been made public. i can tell you according to the warrants, detectives were looking for evidence demonstrating crimes of excessive prescribing and prescribing to an addict.

also, manslaughter. evidence of manslaughter. now the addict that they seem to be referring to in this case is michael jackson. but here's the key detail of the search warrant. it says that they were looking for any information related to propopil or deprivand. i can tell you what the search warrant says, looking for records, shipping orders, distribution lists, anything relating to the purchase, transfer, receiving, ordering, delivery and storage of propofil. that is a really big deal. i can tell what you they took. they took hard drives. they took his iphone. they took a couple cell phone records. and they also were looking for any medical records or nursing notes related to the 19 aliases that are listed in this search warrant that michael jackson was apparently using to obtain prescription drugs from various doctors, larry. >> larry: thanks, randy. reporting on the roof here in los angeles.

kai chase joins us, personal chef for michael jackson. she was working in the mansion where michael and his children were residing the day he died. you have seen the kids since the death? >> yes, i have. >> you how are they doing? >> they're doing graechlt i saw them a couple weeks ago. and they looked great. they're playing with their cousins and having gay time. >> you started as a chef when? >> about 14 years ago. >> larry: they let you go and brought you sfwhak. >> no i've been all over. with mr. jackson, in march. >> larry: then they let you go and brought you back? >> they let me go and mr. jackson and the kids requested me to come back in june. >> larry: now take me to that terrible day. >> the morning i got in to work around 8:00, 8:30. i fed the kids their breakfast. and then proceeded to, you know, start doing the lunch. lunch is usually around 12:00, 12:30. so around 10:00, something like that, normally dr. murray comes

down. >> larry: he is living there? >> dr. murray would stay in the evening. >> larry: he stayed overnight? >> he would stay overnight. and normally he come around 10:00, 10:30 to get mr. jackson's juice or some sort of breakfast for him for that morning. so around that time i noted i hadn't seen dr. murray. and i'm thinking to myself, maybe mr. jackson is sleeping in late. maybe because his rehearsal is pushed back. so i proceeded to prepare the lunch and wrapped his lunch like mr. jackson likes. wrapped it because he liked, you know, his lunch -- if he is at a hotel, you know. kind of like room service. exactly. so around 12:00, 12:05, 12:10 dr. murray comes down the stairs, there is a stairwell that leads into the kitchen screaming, hurry, go get prince. call security. get prince? >> larry: prince is -- >> michael jackson's eldest son.

uh-huh. and so i drop everything that i'm doing and run into the den which is very close to the kitchen. and i go get prince. i run back. and, you know, he meets dr. murray at the stairs. prince stays down stairs with us and dr. murray goes to the stairs. within minutes the paramedics are there. and the security is running upstairs, skipping stairs. and you know, it is panic. what is going on? what's happening? the energy changed from that happy kind of day that we were having and preparing lunch and having a good time to just kind of erie. >> what were the kids doing when this was going on? what were they saying? >> the daughter, she -- paris, she started screaming, daddy! daddy! daddy! we all started crying. >> larry: she knew something was wrong. >> we knew something was wrong. something was wrong. and she screaming daddy and

starts crying. and luis started crying. and we all come together in unity in a circle and we started holding hands. and we started praying. you know, god please let him be okay. >> larry: you knew it was deadly bad? >> i didn't know what. i just had a feeling. >> larry: you knew it was serious. >> something very serious. >> larry: the doctor first relaid that you to. you did not hear the 911 call. >> no. i was never allowed up stairs. >> larry: you never went to the room? >> no that, is part of the rulesst house. >> larry: how did the food get to him? >> he would come down stairs. lunch and dinner with his children. you never went to the upper quarterers? >> no. >> larry: did he eat three meals a day? >> i prepared three meals a day. sometimes he would take meals with him to rehearsal. and sometimes he would eat in here. i mean at his home. >> larry: did you see anybody remove the body? >> no. they asked us to leave, go home around 1:00, 1:30, something like that. security asked us to leave. and we asked if mr. jackson was

okay. and they said we need to take him -- he's going to be taken to the hospital. >> larry: did the rescue workers say anything to you? >> no. >> larry: did they act very worried? >> everyone was very concerned. they were panicked. you know. no one knew. it's hurry and rush. >> larry: did you see michael the day before? >> yes, i d i saw him. i fed him lunch and his children the day before. and he ate lunch with his children at the dinner table. and then i packed his dinner for him to go to rehearsal. >> larry: how did he appear at lunch? >> he seemed like he was just, you know, tired. and i thought probably because, you know, he's been rehearsing a lot. >> larry: had he been eating well? >> when i was -- i left in may. so in may i don't know what was -- you know how his eating habits were. when i came back in june, the third day in he asked me and

pulled me to the side. he said, i need you. i know you know what you're doing. you do a very good job. i want you here i need you to be here. i need you to keep feeding me healthy. do you have my beat juice? do you have the organic juices? any healthy food? i need to stay healthy and strong? he was excited about this tour. >> larry: did he eat a lot of salad foods? >> oh, yeah. saturday, gumbo, fried chicken, kfc, barbecue chicken, corn on the cob. he and the children. >> larry: kai has written a dramatic blog about what happened that day. read it only on cnn.com/larryking. we'll be right back. [ new age music plays ]

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>> larry: we're back with kai chase. you haven't been to the house since. >> no. >> larry: you saw the kids at his mother's house. >> yes. >> larry: why do you think the doctor called for prince? >> well, i think, you know, at that point he may have panicked. >> larry: the doctor panicked? >> it seemed like he was in a panic state. he called for prince. he called for security. somebody. you know? anyone that was allowed to go upstairs. >> larry: did you see dr. murray before that? >> i saw him a lot in june when i came back. he was rather regular. >> larry: see that -- is that a question. what is a doctor doing here? >> no. no. because i knew that mr. jackson was rehearsing. i figured he was -- he was

there -- he was employed and there to take care of him. >> larry: you would say he was eating well? >> i fed him well. >> larry: you fed him well and he ate well. there are all the stories that he didn't eat. >> number he ate very well. he ate organic and fresh. you know, he is into the health foods and juices and things of that nature. but he ate very well. >> larry: is he a good employer? >> he was a very nice man. he is nice. you know, he -- you know, he liked people around him that were, you know, and in his home that were genuine and real. i thought he was very nice. >> larry: did you notice oxygen tanks? because if it was deprivand, they have to measure blood pressure and need oxygen tank it's you give him that drug. did you see them? >> i saw them. >> larry: where were they? >> i would see dr. murray carrying them down in the morning. >> larry: that morning or other mornings? >> i didn't see him that morning. i saw him in the afternoon. but other mornings.

>> larry: he would carry them down. portable oxygen? yes. >> let's listen to that 911 call that brought emergency personnel to the house. >> he is 50 years old, sir. >> 50? okay. he is not breathing? >> yes, he's not breathing, sir. >> okay. >> and he's not conscious either? >> not conscious, sir. >> okay. >> all right. where he is at right now? >> he's on the bed, sir. >> ok, let's get him on the floor. let's get him to the floor. do cpr now. >> we need an ambulance. >> we're on our way there. >> larry: dr. murray, his attorney says that the delay in calling 911 was the phones in the house were disconnected. do you know that? >> no.

>> larry: do you have any knowledge of that? did you ever use the phone? >> no. >> larry: so you wouldn't know. >> no. >> larry: the warrants to search the doctor's office cited your name as a suspected alias for michael jackson. what do you know about that? >> i was just made aware of that from my publicist. i think that it's appalling. i had no clue what that is about. >> larry: has the police questioned you? >> the detectives came to my home right after the death because of the situation. >> larry: but did they ask you anything about these prescriptions or your name? >> no. >> larry: alias? >> no. this is all new. >> larry: so what do you make of this, kai? what is your read on this? >> as far as the -- >> larry: the doctor, the whole situation. >> i think -- you know, i don't know what to make of it. i know that what, you know, the situation with the oxygen tank and doctor. you know, the doctor was there.

i thought to do his job as a physician. >> larry: you are suspicious of the doctor? >> you know, i -- i don't know. >> larry: when you hear about drugs and things. >> well now. now, you know -- >> larry: but you weren't then? >> no. >> larry: we'll be back in 60 seconds. i go down to the pool for a swim... get out and dance... even play a little hide-n-seek. i'm breathing better... with spiriva. announcer: spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled maintenance treatment for both forms of copd... which includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. i take it every day. it keeps my airways open... to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announcer: spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. stop taking spiriva and call your doctor if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, or have vision changes or eye pain. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, problems passing urine or an enlarged prostate,

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switch today and save up to $523. listening and saving you money is how... ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> larry: we're back with kai chase. custody deal for michael's children was announced to day. katherine gets full custody. debbie rowe has visitation rights. what is your read? >> i think that's wonderful. that is beautiful. i saw the interaction when i went to the home. and they love their grandma. you know. it's wonderful. i think debbie rowe should be with her children. >> larry: did they ever talk about debbie? >> no. >> larry: you have met debbie?

>> no, never. >> larry: but being the biological mother, you feel it's okay for -- >> of course. absolutely. >> larry: this tie with kathrine, how strong? >> well, you know, michael loved his mother. and the children obviously love their grandmother. they spoke very highly of her and his mother. it's a beautiful bond that they have together. you know, she's loving. they love her. >> larry: did he ever have any health complaints? did he ever say i'm not feeling well or have some chest pains? something not right? >> no. never anything like that. i remember one day the third day i was there when i came back he had told me, you know, they're killing me. they're killing me because i'm working too much. >> larry: who's they? >> i'm assuming whoever -- >> larry: concert people? >> he was rehearsing a lot.

i need to eat healthy. i need to stay strong, you know. i'm tired. so, you know -- >> larry: so he complained? >> just that one day. >> larry: was he looking forward to england? we all were. >> larry: were you going to go? >> yes. prince, his son, came and told me one day, daddy wants me to tell you that he wants you to go to london. and i said well please tell your daddy i said thank you and i'd be honored. and the kids started jumping up and down. yeah, kai's going to london. we started talking about bringing video games and stuff to the private jet and it was just, you know, he was very excited about going and doing this tour. this is his come back. >> larry: did you cook for dr. murray? >> i would prepare meals for him in the evening with mr. jackson's meal bring left the home. >> larry: what was he like? >> dr. murray was very nice. he seemed like a nice man. we would talk. he would bring, you know, in the mornings he would get mr. jackson's juices. maybe one, two, maybe a mango

juice or beat juice or both. he would take them up stairs and make sure that he ate. he had din wert family. i served them, you know. he seemed like a nice man. >> larry: is he a late riser, michael? >> mr. jackson -- just -- it depends. he was -- he would make sure he would have lunch with his children. >> larry: with his children? >> with his children. >> larry: and their interaction was good? >> oh, absolutely. you know, i would bring the lunches in on the table and they would all come in and sit and close the door and dine privately. and you could just hear laughter. and story telling and just beautiful things. >> larry: why are you come forward now, kai? >> i don't know if i call it coming forward. i just think that, you know, i just want to tell the fact that mr. jackson, he ate.

he loved food. he was excited about this tour. >> larry: so that's a good thing, that he wasn't some kind of anorexic. >> i don't think. so i saw the man eating. >> larry: when you saw the tape of the rehearsals, did that impress you? >> oh, absolutely. you know, it's like a light switch went on and he's there. you know, he's amazing. >> larry: so this is a double shock, you can't even express it. >> right. >> larry: seeing him one second and the next second gone. >> absolutely. very shocking. very devastating. unreal. >> larry: thank you, kai. >> you're welcome. >> larry: thanks for coming. next, al sharpton and ann coulter. do i have to add anything? stick around.

>> larry: ann coulter, conservative commentator, number one "new york times" best-selling author. her newest book is "guilty: liberal victims and their assault on america." and in new york, reverend al sharpton, president and founder of the national action network, noted civil rights leader and syndicated radio host. the statement was issued today from the white house concerning the meeting that took place earlier between the sergeant, the president and the professor. i'm thankful to professor gates and sergeant crowley for joining me at the white house this evening for a friendly, thoughtful conversation. even before we sat down for the beer, i learned that the two gentlemen spent some time together listening to one another which is a testament to them. i've always believed that what brings us together is stronger than what pulls us apart. i'm confident that what has happened here tonight and i'm hopeful that all of us are able

to draw this positive lesson from this episode." ann coulter, do you think that will put it away? >> i don't think it should. i also by the way, i think it was a little racial profiling that president assuming the irish hops and would like to drink beer. no chablis here. i think it's a teachable moment. but the teachable moment needs to go to president obama and to henry lewis gates. we have one case after another of these where there's an assumption of racial profiling or racism by cops or by teachers and you have one hoax after another. if we're going to claim that there is this rash of racial profiling in america, you know, eventually there's got to be one real case of it. >> larry: all right. al, how do you counter? >> first of all, i think that you must deal with the fact that with the president did tonight was absolutely the right thing

to do, to set a tone and a climate so we can go forward and deal with both with police are dealing with in terms of trying to fight crime and in they are filed and what people have to deal with with documented cases of racial profiling. there are 23 states that have laws on racial profiling. there have been any number of states that have studied and documented it. to say that they're all hoaxes is, you know, ann being ann. i think the fact is that when you see almost half the country dealing with this, state law, even the justice department under president bush documenting the differences in terms of arrests and in term of stops and searches, i think now we have a climate to deal with. >> larry: and the question is, was this racial profiling? the other night on this show colin powell said looking at both sides, he said that the professor was wrong for getting angry. it's the cop, you listen to the cop. the cop was wrong for arresting him. you are saying, ann that, there is no racial profiling?

you are saying that doesn't exist? >> i'm saying that probably everything under the sun exists at one point or another. whether this is a crisis -- >> larry: that's the question. does racial profiling exist? >> no, i don't think there is a epidemic of racial profiling. i think there is an epidemic of claims of racism that turn out to be a hoax. i mean like i say, you go back to brawly, and also the case of the exeter kid. >> larry: those are hoaxes. you are saying, therefore, there is no racial profiling? >>, no all -- well, all of the big cases that were released to us and bill clinton citing a racial incident that was known to be a fraud in the democratic acceptance speech and the democratic national convention in 1992, there was the garcia case in new york. racial profiling shot. turns out he is holding a machete. >> larry: i think -- before i come back to ann, do you think it's possible that a black man

in america last night might have been stopped by someone -- by a policeman just because he was black? >> i think it's possible that a man -- that a man wbit a dog yesterday, if i keep hearing about a man biting dog story, i want to see one. we're told every time the man bites a dog, it turns out to be false, what you hear is well, okay this one wasn't true. but there recall the other ones. >> larry: sergeant crowley spoke to the media after he had the beer with the president and the profe professor. here's what he said and then we'll have al comment. >> what you had today is two gentlemen that agreed to disagree on a particular issue. i don't think that we spent too much time dwelling on the past. we spent a lot of time discussing the future. >> larry: what did you make of that, al? good idea? >> well, i think it's a good idea particularly of now, those in law enforcement and those that are involved in fighting

for these cases can come together and sit with those in government and try in this climate of trying to deal with what is fair and equal for all do that. i remember when janet reno had began that, i would hope that eric holder and others picked that up. and i think that the fact of the matter is there are clear cases that have to be dealt w i mean can you go from rodney king to abner loumia and on and on where people went to jail. i'm not going to get in this argument with ann. clearly, 23 states are not hallucinating racial profiling. and colin powell said talking about his own experiences. so all of these people are not making this up. to go 23 years ago to brawly, i mean try to find something this century, ann. we're talking about a problem -- >> it's a problem. >> well, the duke lacrosse case was not about profiling. that was about a report. you maybe need to find profiling -- but the racial profiling -- racial profiling is when there is an assumption made based on

race when there is no one that is called in the report. and i think if you understood the definition, you could not deny it. >> larry: al, do you think it's possible -- do you think he was prigt whright when he said the professor overreacted? >> the question becomes, that's why you need to have law enforcement and all the forces stick. what is overreaction in your own home? we need to define that. is it possible? sure? what we need to do now is deal with the law. if you're in your house, someone comes to your door, you think it's the repairman, it is not. they order you out of the house. hover you respond, is that overreaction? the fact of the matter is what we do know is the prosecutors said we're not going forward with this case. this is interesting to me. the police unions, larry, were mad at the president. they never questioned the prosecutors' decision saying we're not going forward which meant what undermined the arrest is not the president, not those that supported dr. gates like me, but the prosecutors.

>> ann, on the other hand -- if it's your house and -- forget racial. it's your house. they're questioning you about your own house. you would be ticked? >> in fact, i have been at least in the initial crankiness by professor gates, i've been somewhat of a defender of his in as much as i'm someone who travels a lot. i get a lot of -- i get cranky, too, especially after a long trip from china. what can't be defended, i think, is the next 48 hours. the next week when he could calm down and think i overreacted. but i think that is a problem. both minorities and females are told to take everything as it's because your black. it's because you're a woman. i don't think that's good for blacks or females. i don't think it's good for the rest of the country. and there is one thing i'd like to say about the studies on racial profiling and even the bush administration coming out with them. the bush administration suppressed the study that

disproved eight million studies about the new jersey state troopers. there was a scientific study setting up cameras of people speeding and it turns out new jersey state troopers, by scientific evidence either through the bush administration kept rejecting and rejecting were stopping, if anything, not enough blacks. >> so what you're saying, ann -- >> larry: hold it. hold it. al, i'll come right back with you. by the way, who you are more likely to agree with, ann or al? i think they disagree. go to cnn.com/larryking. and the boston police officer who is in hot water over all this he'll would be us. maybe this is one of the most important. new centrum ultra women's. a complete multivitamin for women.

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>> larry: this statement was just reloolease bid professor g. >> i can report it's far more comfortable being the commentator than being commented upon. >> larry: do you agree with that, ann? >> yes. though i don't want to move in on him quite so fast. one other point i mentioned in my column this week is what if sergeant crowley had not been the model policeman who taught diversity classes and giving

mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a famous black athlete? what about at some point in his career he was accused falsely or not of racism? his life would be ruined right now. we know this wasn't a case of racism. we know that now. but we -- >> larry: what's the point? >> only because he's a model policeman and all the usual race mongers saying let's move on. i don't want to move on so fast as long as they brought it up. >> larry: al, do you resent that statement? >> no. because i, you know, ann is ann. i think that the fact is that only case that fell apart was the case against dr. gates. dr. gates was the one arrested. and charged. that's the case that fell apart. i don't know what case she's talking about against the officer. that's one. secondly, i think many of us said on my web page that if this is a question of police overstepping their bounds and arresting him because there was no crime or racial profiling, we wanted an investigation. there's no race mongering to ask

in a investigation why a man was arrested in his own house when there was apparently no crime. i think what the president has done, and i think it's important that we don't go past this, is to get the disagreeable parties to say we can disagree. no one backed down from what i saw tonight. we could disagree without being disagreeable. he got that with the union. he had newt gingrich and i sitting in his office talking about education together. the climate ann in america is no longer screaming and saying even the bush administration is covering up. the climate is let's sit down and say we disagree. now let's solve the problems even though we disagree. i hope you learn to do that, ann. >> larry: ann, you could possibly disagree with him sitting down. >> no. no. not at all. could i just say some of the things about the disorderly conduct charge. i will bet you more than -- just a misdemeanor. i bet you more than any other arrests those are dismissed and not brought to trial. the jd if somebody is ranting and raving and behaving

irrationally, the cop can't just walk away. if the person behaving irrationally then goes off and, you know, hits his girlfriend or something, well who's to blame for that snt cop. a lot is to get the angry guy out of the situation. they go to jail, the charges are dismissed and we're over in this case gates' own lawyer said it was dismissed because of connections. i wouldn't be waiving around the dismissal as proof that it's a bad arrest. crowley is backed by the entire police department and by the law in massachusetts. >> if the police department thought it was connections, then i'm sure they would have in the press conference condemned everyone else and condemned the prosecutor. and i'm sure that there are many disorderly conducts that go to trial. he was detained for hours and the charges weren't dropped for four days i assume because they investigated the case. but beyond that, i think we've got an opportunity to really heal in this situation. where now you have crowley who i disagreed with. but his credit stood up to night. you have professor gates. and they said let the dialogue begin. the president set a healthy

climate. i think now we'll see if responsible people on both sides will sit down in the climate and make change happen. >> larry: let me get a break n ann and al, we'll come back and discuss some other things. they're coming back. so are we in 60 seconds.

>> in my off hours i was friends with a number of the soldiersment one of the soldiers asked me if i could help him loegt some children's wheelchairs. he was major david brown. and he would go out in the city on medical missions and he would see children either dragging themselves on the ground or during his missions he would see

parents bring him children and ask them for medicine for the kids to help them. and there was obviously no way to help. i saw him the next day and asked him if there is anything i could help him w he asked me to help him find children's wheelchairs. at that time we found a request to friends and family back home, 30 days, we had 31 children's wheelchairs on ground. >> larry: it is true nearly 650 wheelchairs have been distributed to this point? >> that's right, 650 children's pediatric wheelchairs from reach out and care wheels have been provided. also, 240 small adult wheelchairs and adult wheel clarz ha chairs have been provided from san francisco. >> larry: thank you, brad, for improving the lives of children and making our world a better place. our "hero of the week." next, the boston police officer in big trouble after dumping into the dust over the gates arrest. he's here right after the break.

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>> larry: joining us now in boston is officer justin barrett and his attorney peter marino. he was placed on administrative leave from the boston police department after referring to henry lewis gates as a jungle monkey in a mass e-mail. he's also been suspended from his military duties as a captain in the national guard. the e-mail was sent in reaction to a "boston globe" article about the gates-crowley incident that went to friends and the national guard. we want to read a few excerpts. warning, some might find this offensive. if i was the officer he assaulted like a banana eating jungle monkey, i would have sprayed him in the face with oc.

i'm not a racist. but i am prejudice toward people who are stupid and pretend to stand up and preach for something they say is freedom. >> larry: officer barrett, what were you thinking? >> yes, larry, i'd like to take this opportunity to offer fellow police officers, soldiers and citizens my sincerest apology over the controversial e-mail i authored in response to abraham's editorial in the "boston globe." my choice of words, larry, was lacking. i failed to think from the perception others may have based upon what i wrote. i failed to realize the potential through the use of words that others would see as offensive.

i am not a racist. i did not intend any racial bigotry, harm or prejudice in my words. i sincerely apologize that these words have been received as such. i truly apologize to all involved, larry. >> larry: do you think, justin, you deserve to be suspended based on it? >> larry, if i can answer -- >> larry: go ahead, peter. >> on behalf of justin, there is suspension in this circumstance and they need to be addressed. is justin willing to accept a punishment for what is occurred in a proportional sense? absolutely. there is a process that does need to be followed. listening to some of your other guests tonight, when we talk about how this country can move on and learn from this episode that's occurred, justin is

stepping into this event between professor gates and sergeant crowley and what occurred. it was a poor choice of words. and not a well thought out sense of what he was doing when he did it. and as long as at the end of the day, the proportionality is what we need to look at, what the punishment will be. >> larry: what upset you so much, you're not a racist, to be so vistriolic in the e-mail? >> i read the article. i read the editorial written by abraham in "the globe." it seemed like it was biased. it did not show the roles and duties of a police officer and how dangerous it already is without having a debate about people getting in a police officer's face, which should never happen at any call. police officers have a dangerous

job, and i just felt that the article was one sided and really didn't show justice to what police officers face on a daily basis, when they have a tough job and they have to go home and provide for their families. they work a lot of hours per week. to provide for their families. >> larry: what made you come up with that language, though? >> larry, i don't even know. i couldn't tell you. i have no idea. i can say there was no intentional racial bigotry on prejudice by my words. i did not intend that. i treat people with dignity and respect. i was in iraq. i work on the streets of deuchester. i work with people in positions that they're stressed out and need help. i have treated people with dignity and respect, on the job, off the job, in iraq, in the

city of boston. that's what i've done. i continue to treat people with respect. >> larry: have you used those words before, officer? >> no, i've never used those words before. >> larry: so you were pretty angry? >> larry, i -- >> larry: you want to say something? go ahead. >> i do. i want to speak out a little more on justin's behalf, that his angst and anger that was portrayed -- it wasn't portrayed, it was wrote in this e-mail. it was directed towards behavior, not well thought out, not placed well. he's recognized the severity of what's occurred because of this. this is a young man who's never had a disciplinary issue at all in his career in 16 years in the army national guard or in the last 2 1/2 years with the boston police department. it was probably the biggest lapse of judgment that he had, and the poorest choice of words

he could make. one e-mail is making a judgment on his entire life and all of what -- >> larry: i've got you, peter. he's humbled himself tonight. he's come forward, formally apologized. i don't know what more he could do. maybe we could all seek a little forgiveness. thanks, justin. we'll keep in touch with this. >> larry: here's a preview of "ac 360." anderson? >> remarkable show tonight. beer at the white house, the president and vice president, along where the black harvard professor and the white police sergeant who arrested him all sitting down. we'll show you what happened. also the latest on the investigation into the michael jackson's death. we now have the search warrants with new details about the case building against dr. conrad murray. randi kaye has the latest. and tensions in iran, that's all ahead on the show tonight. >> larry: "ac 360" with anderson cooper always on top of things.

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>> larry: before we get into another political issue, let's go back to ann coulter and reverend al sharpton. start with al this time. what did you make of officer barrett? >> i think it is outrageous for someone to say that calling someone a monkey-eating -- a banana-eating monkey is not racist. absolutely it's a racist term. to ask for forgiveness, but then don't forgive me for something something racist, forgive me if you took it that way is absurd. i'm the most forgiving guy. i forgave a while male for

stabbing me at a march. he said he was wrong. he said he's not racist. and that they're going to entertain putting him back on the streets and we are supposed to trust someone with these feelings to protect the public? >> "a"? >> ann. >> that's what an attorney-formulated apolg sounds like. you have two people, a white man, black man, both of them lose their tempers, do something highly immature, one berates a cop, one berates a reporter and which one is on tv abjectly apologizing and begging for mercy? >> are you comparing dr. gates saying something in his home about why are you bothering me with a man calling someone a banana-eating monkey, is that what you're trying to do, ann? >> there are differences that cut both ways, reverend sharpton. one -- by the way, it was more than what are you doing here?

he's screaming at the cop, saying you're a racist. >> he did not call that man a racist term. >> and the black cop -- >> larry: one at a time, one at a time, guys. ann. >> it was my time. he was screaming, berating the cop, calling him a racist i'll talk to your mama outside. the black cop and the hispanic cop totally backed up crowley. i wouldn't say it is worse. i think the e-mail language is worse certainly. >> can i say something? >> it's nothing like wasting a cop's tile. >> you know what is worse, ann, this is the argument, what it's about, what's worse is this a policeman. no one is going to depend on dr. gates to protect their family. no one is going to depend on dr. gates to respond to a 911 call. you're asking people to depend on this man, to respond to them when he in a moment of anger sees us as banana-eating monkeys, we wouldn't call on gates, we'd call on this man if

we live in boston. that's the difference. that's a lot more serious, ann. >> if a 911 call came in when gates was wasting the time of half a dozen police involved. >> ann, ann -- >> the difference and the reaction is more striking. >> the difference in who they are are more striking. this man is upheld by the state, given a gun to protect people. that's his feeling. dr. gates, right or wrong, is not in that position. >> larry: we were going to discuss in this segment, we're running out of time, other political issues. i'm going to invite both of you back, hopefully next week to discuss a lot of issues. one day i'd love to see a conservative say that he agreed with the professor on and a liberal say he agreed with the police officer. that would be a historic night. a couple of special guests from portsmith, arkansas.