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and these family caregivers will also be able to get the help that they need. kyra? >> they sure deserve it. that does it for us. have a great weekend! . the boston police officer that called professor gates a jungle monkey and e-mailed on and on. he suddenly clams up on larry king. i'm going to let you decide. the stock market, up? home prices, up? what's going on. good economic news? can't be, can it? we are asking ali. this congressman says health care reform will cause, quote, millions of additional dead children. millions of dead children? could it be.
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i'll ask him. are these officers trying to cover something up? >> she is drunk anyway. >> will their own words do them in? you will hear it on the national conversation for friday, july 31st, 2009. hello again. i'm rick sanchez with the next generation of news. we like to call this a conversation. this isn't a speech. it is always your turn to get involved. the heat continues on boston area police on the issue of racial profiling. just as it may have been starting to die down somewhat, a police officer wrote possibly as offensive an e-mail as could be written to or about a black person. now, he is talking about it. first, i want to tell you about what he said. it's an angry letter to the boston globe columnist. i could read the whole thing.
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maybe picking a couple parts out that he uses over and over again. he refers to professor gates, the harvard professor, refers to him as a jungle monkey several times, by the way. he also tries to mock the writer of the story, the columnist with the boston globe by using the word ax, ax, instead of ask. he does that again and again and again in his e-mail. officer justin barrett appeared last night on cnn. he talked to larry king. >> i want to take this opportunity to offer fellow police officers, soldiers and citizens my sincerest apology over the controversial e-mail i offered in response to yvonne abraham's editorial in the boston globe. my choice of words, larry, was lacking. i failed to think through the perception others may have based upon what i wrote. i failed to realize the potential through the use of words that others would see as
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offensive. >> that others would see as offensive? the perception that others might have about his words? interesting use of language, isn't it? i want you to see this. this is something i was thinking about as i was watching this and we were preparing it with our staff. look at what happens as soon as larry tries to ask the officer questions. loip y >> you think, justin, you deserve to be suspended based on it? >> larry, if i could answer on that, on behalf of justin. >> all right, peter. >> there is suspension in this circumstances that needs to be addressed by an impartial body. >> so here is the point that we are making as we watch this together. is there something about reading your statement from a carefully worded script and then having your lawyer answer questions for you that might give some in the audience, perhaps yourself,
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watching right now some pause, especially when compared to the other officer are the officer who he was originally trying to defend in this e-mail that he wrote to the bos ton globe, sergeant jim crowley, who arrested professor gates? he answered all the questions that he was asked. he did not use a lawyer and he has been generally consistent, generally consistent. let's compare. take a listen. >> you gentlemen agree to disagree on a particular issue. i don't think that we spent too much time dwelling on the past. we spent a lot of time discussing the future. >> i have two guests, going to be lined up. they are going to be taking us through this. we will be having the conversation with syracuse university professor, boyce watkins, always a great guest on these type of issues and any kind of issue, actually. retired nassau counsel it i retired officer lou palombo. many of you told us that guy was excellent. i enjoyed listening to him. so he is back. he is going to analyze these
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officer's responses and what it tells us about them and the way they have responded to their controversies. i want to catch you up on the beer controversy. cnn's candy crowley. >> reporter: on a humid summer night beneath a magnolia tree just off the rose garden, the vice president, the president, the black professor and the white policeman who arrested him had a beer together. >> there was no tension, no tension. >> reporter: apparently it did go well. the president called it a friendly, thoughtful conversation and you'll never guess what? sergeant james crowley says he and professor henry louis gates are planning their next meeting. >> i would like not only to discuss but listen to professor gates' perspectives and certainly he has the credentials to enlighten me a little bit. i think that the professor, as he expressed to me, has a willingness to listen to what my
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perspective is as a police officer. >> reporter: ditto from professor gates who wrote on his website that he and crowley need to foster greater sympathy for the daily perils of policing and the genuine fierce of racial profiling. heads of state have come away from the white louse with a lot less but do not call this a beer summit. >> this is three folks having a drink at the end of the day and hopefully giving people an opportunity to listen to each other. that's really all it is. >> reporter: not exactly all. it is the president's attempt to get out from underneath headlines he helped write. it was a rather routine cop call on a possible break-inat a home in cambridge. it turned into a national rorschach test on racial pry filing and police and minority communities. it was elevated and propelled by five words at a presidential news conference. >> the cambridge police acted stupidly. >> reporter: it fueled the fire
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and knocked the president's health care message off the front pages. the president had to explain, reexplain, call sergeant crowley to personally explain and then invited both crowley and gates to the white house. now, the professor and the cop are working out details of their next meeting. >> i think meeting at a bar for a beer on a second occasion is going to send out the wrong message. maybe a kool-aid or iced tea or something like that. >> reporter: the president is dying to get back to his agenda and put cambridge on the back page. >> i will be surprised if you guys all make this the lead as opposed to a very important meeting that we just had with one of our most important partners in the world -- >> reporter: maybe tomorrow. candy crowley, cnn, washington. syracuse university professor boyce watkins, let me go to you first. i was a reporter for many, many years working alongside police
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officers in south florida. usually, you can tell the difference between police officers and how they react to situations like this. do you see the difference between these two officers, crowley and now the officer who wrote that nasty e-mail rs officer barrett? >> absolutely. as i told you, my dad has been in law enforcement for a very long time. there are good cops and bad cops. sergea sergeant crowley comes across as a genuine individual who was trying to do his job. he doesn't seem liblg a bad cop. this other cop seems like he might have some problems. he seems to be deeply infected by the disease of racism. going on larry king was a way of protecting and covering his own butt. i am able to forgive him, because i don't necessarily think that he is a person who wants to be a bad person all the tim time. he probably said some things people think but don't say. he should be fired, because he
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needs to be taught a lesson. he with don't need cops like him on the streets. >> i am interested officer palombo in what you would say. one of them decided officer crowley was on the air doing an interview with some jocks and d.j.s their in boston. he answered every question he could possibly answer. i imagine there are some lawyers out there that would say that is not a good idea. it certainly did indeer him to his critics, didn't it? >> what he demonstrated was an immense amount of conviction. he was steadfast and honorable. i do believe he was within his legal right to arrest professor gates, period. i would have taken a different road quite candidly but that's just an issue of style. as far as officer barrett, i think right now he is in an immense amount of damage
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control. basically, his career is over. the soon he accepts it and the sooner the attorney he has retained accepts it, he will probably move on with his life. >> hold on, now. there are places in this country, you know it and i know it as well, that would probably hire someone like this and look the other way. i know that i've seen many police officers who have had these kind of bumps in the road and they have been able to recover their careers. >> you are absolutely right about that. i know of a lot of inconsistencies, other than the one you just elicited to. no one with a brain in their head would hire this young man. >> you are saying they shouldn't not necessarily that they won't. >> the problem simply stated is that he is no longer a viable quantity in law enforcement. he has demonstrated an ability to be impartial. >> how prevalent, boyce, do you
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think those personal feelings are? go ahead. we will give lou a chance as well. >> okay. well, you know, i think that this sort of bias, deep-seeded bias exists throughout the country. a lot of white americans can ask themselves this question. if your daughter or son were to bring home an african-americans, and they said, this i is the person i love and i want to marry them, how would you feel? to tell you a personal story, when i was 15 years old, i liked a girl who happened to be white. she liked me a lot. i guess i was handsome back then. we had a great relationship until her dad found out. it hurt me so deeply. i thought her dad liked me. he liked me as an athlete but he didn't like the idea of me kissing his daughter. i think these biases are the things we have to explore in our american racial conversation so that we can really work through this and be willing to admit, there are areas where we could improve. >> you are absolutely right.
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when you bring issues like those to the forefront, that's where the rubber meets the road. >> i am interested in your take in this officer's appearance on larry king. i kept hearing him say, i should have been more careful about how other people might interpret my words, how others may feel about what i said. i kept shaking my head thinking, it is not about how others interpreted what you said, it's what you said. >> i would say his words spoke for themselves, so to speak. they stand on their own merit. >> as i said earlier, rick, he is in damage control hoping to end up in some type of disciplinary procedure that's going to save his job. that simply shouldn't be the case. this is going to become a critique of the leading police official in the city of boston right now. it will be a critique of anyone else who considers retaining his services. i mean, quite frankly, this guy has rendered himself neutered as a law enforcement agent. he has showed his hand,
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demonstrated overtly through these correspondence, his heart and you cannot hold a heart like that and be in our profession shun. >> lou and boyce, we are out of time and i appreciate this excellent conversation that more americans should continue to have in this country, especially that rubber hits the road comment that you brought to our attention. we appreciate it. my thanks to both of you. we'll see you again soon. bend this a little bit. she is drunk. >> i don't lie and make things up ever, it is wrong. if i need to to protect a cop, i'm gonna. >> to protect a cop, i'm going to. don't tell me two police officers actually planned a coverup of their screw-up. they forgot that they were actually being recorded by their dash cam as they were doing this. all right. i won't tell you by i will show you the video once again and let
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you decide for yourself as you listen to that. then, the sports reporter caught photographed through a peep hole called 911. this is a very revealing call. you are going to hear it right here. also, remember, when our show ends, it doesn't really end. it's our aftershow on cnn.com live after the show. get it. brilliant. we'll be right back. there is a medicare benefit that may qualify you for a new power chair or scooter at little to no cost to you. stay tuned for this important medicare benefit information and free scooter guarantee. imagine... one scooter or power chair that could improve your mobility and your life. one medicare benefit that, with private insurance, may entitle you to pay little to nothing to own it. one company that can make it all happen ... great news. your power chair will be paid in full. the scooter store. why should you call the scooter store today? because their mobility experts are also medicare experts. and that means the scooter store is your best shot at
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will be contacted if you are one of the problem cars and people shouldn't be panicking about it. it doesn't seem like it has had a lot of injury associated with it. it is a lot of cars. 440,000 cars because of a deployment system in the air bag. it is honda. a lot of people own hondas, the accords and civics. >> if it shoots out at that kind of pressure, it is like shrapnel. >> it is 2001, 2002 accord, 2001 civics and some 2000 and 2003 ac ra tl sedans. >> great stuff. thanks for bringing us up to date on that. you are going to be joining me
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in a little bit. there is some new numbers out there that actually show that i'm not saying we've hit bottom. some people may. >> some people are. >> we'll measure it out. >> who better to do that with than ali velshi. up next, a congressman says, the president's new health care plan is going to cause millions of children to die. how does he defend that language. it's very strong language. it is obviously something that he feels very strong about. so he is going to join me in a little bit. we are going to have a conversation about it. i am going to obviously ask him the tough questions. there he is. congressman, thanks for being here. i look forward to it. stay tune. this is coming up in two minutes.
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remember back in april when there was a plane photographed going over new york city, almost right through the area where 9/11 had happened, not far from the statue of liberty. guess what? we have pictures of exactly what that looked like. there it is. let's go in tight. air force one, actually. there you see the statue of liberty right under it. now, this scared, in fact, panicked so many yorkers that thousands of people ran off on the sidewalk. they thought they were under attack. it turns out it was a publicity shoot that was organized or ordered by louis caldera, the white house military affairs officer. he was fired or sum march illy released or resigned, lost his job, nonetheless, as a result of these pictures. we've never seen these pictures up close, how low the plane was following over new york, low
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enough to panic many new yorkers and that's what it looked like as it happened back then and the result as you now know was the controversy for the obama administration, a news story for a straight week and the removal of one official named louis caldera. all this week, we've been trying to bring you some clarity. some of the points that appear to be in dispute on health care. coverage for end of life planning does not mean the government plans to put seniors to death, which some, like congresswoman virginia fox alluded to on the floor of the house of representatives. there was another dispute by the president himself, essentially saying that this wasn't going to cost us. we basically showed that it probably will cost us. then, there is this dispute. some who oppose abortion say the reforms being considered will lead to the biggest spike in pregnancy termination since row versus wade. in the words of republican congressman chris smith of new jersey, quoted in several
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periodicals, quote, the ugly truth is, so-called health care reform, if enacted, will lead to millions of additional deaths of children. additional deaths of children and millions of mothers will be wounded. congressman smith is good enough to join us now from washington. anybody who reads that is struck by the words. you're saying millions of children will die. first of all, i want to make sure you are quoted correctly there. we've seen that at least in four or five different periodicals. >> without a doubt. here is the problem in a nutshell. the abortion mandate that is in this so-called health restructuring bill, just as recently as last night, there is language now in the bill that low is capsen from california makes it clear that every area of the country by federal government mandate will have to have a private insurance company
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that has abortion coverage as part of its coverage. right now, throughout the country, in terms of abortion facilities and hospitals, there are some 87% of the counties of america that are no longer performing abortions. there is no be there to do abortions. we've seen hospital after hospital get out of the grisly business of dismembering or chemicaling poisoning. that has led to more children living. the second part is the public subsidy. >> first of all, as i understand it and we did a heavy amount of research on this today, more than 80% of the insurers in the united states and it is their choice, by the way, whether they want to cover terminations or not, abortions. they can choose not to. you could choose to choose a provider that does or doesn't. so it's your decision. month are than 80% of them cover terminations as we stand right now. how will that change under the new plan? >> first of all, that
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information has come from the abortion industry. what they have done, they have included life of the mother abortions, which are covered by most plans but not abortion on demand. not abortion for socioeconomic reason or abortions for birth control reasons as a type of birth control. when even governor sebelius, the health and human services secretary -- >> i've got to stop you. >> she has said most plans do not cover abortions. >> i gave you a number. i said more than 80. >> the number is far less. it is probably less than half. she, herself, has said, in testimony before congress, most insurance coverage does not include abortion. except in very limited cases of life of the mother. >> if the patient or the doctor decides that it is medically necessary for them to have the termination, they can have it anyway and almost 100% of insurances is going to cover it? that's the way it is now. >> that's not true.
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it's only in very rare cases of life of the mother, perhaps in rape and incest cases. certainly, life of the mother. not for other reasons. medically necessary is an absolutely elastic term that has been employed for 3 1/2 decades to include abortions on demand. there is not a term that has real meaning in the abortion debate other than to permit abortions for socioeconomic reasons. >> the point is, there doesn't seem to be, from what we saw, a lot of difference from what will happen in the future if any of this legislation is passed from what is happening now. the only difference it could possibly be is one is paid by private and in the future, some of it could possibly end up being paid publicly. even that's in question. >> let me just say this. most of the insurance companies are out of the abortion business. i offer the amendment back in 1983 that is still in force under the federal employees
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health benefit programs that only allows abortions to be covered in private health insurance that all of us have an open season. i am in blue cross blue shield. other people choose another one. it pays for abortion in limited circumstances, rape, incest and life of the mother. that's the way many of these private insurance companies choose to operate. now, we have a situation where in every part of the country, every area of the country, as part of an abortion mandate, that's in the language being passed last night. >> that's not true. i am looking at low is casen's actual amendment. >> i have read it very carefully. >> what it seems to say. she is saying abortion payments are made by private providers, not the government plan. she wants to make sure that everybody has a choice. they are going to be able to choose a provider that does provide it. if they choose to go with a provider that doesn't provide termination, they are more than welcome to do so. she wants to make sure everyone has that choice. that's the way i am reading it.
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how am i reading it wrong? >> well, there is some book keeping where -- >> you are saying she is mandating people to do it? >> what she is doing is mandating, that every area of the country has to have an insurance company or insurance companies that will provide plans that have abortion coverage. that's not the case today. frankly, rick, this will lead to more abortions. we know that when there is a fascilitation and a public subsidy for abortions, the abortions go by a third. barack obama has said he wants to reduce abortions. you don't do that by expanding the venues and providing more opportunity to kill the life of an unborn child. >> his argument would be just to put it on the record that really the program is not changing at all. essentially, they are moving the money around but everything that you can do now, you will be able to do in the future. >> it has to be held up under scrutiny. >> i appreciate your passion. >> and i appreciate yours.
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>> and taking us through. this is an interesting conversation and one that as we've said all week that all americans should be considering. my thanks to you, god bless. take care. coming up, michael jackson, drug addict? new information from investigators that we have been receiving. it comes from search warrants from the home and the office of jackson's doctor. also, at least three positive signs suggesting the economy is turning around. what are they? how much credence do we actually give these signs? i'm going to ask ali velshi to take us through this. also, remember the aftershow. it is on cnn.com/live at 4 eastern. when? after this show. get it. we'll be right back. i never thought it could happen to me...
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about the officer. i believe this officer is racist. his own words speak for themselves. there you go. so many of you have been chiming in on the conversation, the national conversation that we're having today. when we come back, ali velshi is going to join us, because there are three or four quantifiable numbers out there that seem to show that something is going on with the economy. it could be a positive uptick. it could be that we have hit bottom. some might argue there is even a bounce. some could go as far as to say we may be on the way in the other direction. is in he of that true? nobody is better to ask than ali velshi. he is joining us and we are breaking down the numbers. stay with us.
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take some of your comments on this as well. before leading office, george bush famously warned that the u.s. economy could possibly be on the verge of, quote, economic collapse. this is some hal a lashus wordsr a president to use. many of us read ali velshi's book on how we got there and what to do about it. then, we waited for bottom to hit. so, now, here we are. it's a little more than half a year later. guess what? we could possibly be at bottom. we may be on the way up, those things are not exact. very difficult to measure. there is some, some quantifiable evidence that i want to share with you now. guess who held an unannounced news availability today to talk about this good news? here is no surprise to you, the president. >> this morning, the gdp revealed that the recession we
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we faced when i took office was even deeper than anyone thought at the time. they told us how close we were to the edge. but, the gdp also revealed that in the last few months, the economy has done mesh you'rablely better than we had thought, better than expected. as many economists will tell you, that part of the progress is directly attributable to the recovery act. >> this president does not meet a beat. any opportunity, any good news, he calls a news conference and tells us so. here is today's news. he is right. the commerce department now says finally, the bleeding is somewhat under control. not over but somewhat under control. they say that our economy is still shrinking but only by about 1% now, which is minuscule compared to what it was about seven or eight months ago when ali velshi and i were having these constant conversations and
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everybody was looking for the door. then, there are these numbers i want to share with you as well. we've seen in the last couple of days and ali velshi is going to be taking us through these so we can understand what it means. let me take you through it one at a fi at a time. a nine-month high. it is now up more than 2500 points since early march. that's pretty good stuff. take a look at this. the place where the crisis started. the horrible housing market. yesterday, we learned that select home prices in certain areas actually have been rising by about half of 1%, which begin is nothing. still, that's an up arrow as opposed to a down arrow. that's the first monthly gain in nearly three years. the housing market has really been down. ali velshi joins us now. let's go through these one at a time. first, this housing market thing. when i read the article in "the new york times," it looked like certain places, san francisco. it doesn't mean the whole
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country. >> at this point in a recession, that's the important thing, whether it is houses, whether it is jobs, these are things that are different in different parts of the country much the one thing that's the same is the market, because everybody gets to invest in it. housing, which is where this recession started, has been going down fr a long time. there are parts of the country that saw greater drops. they are starting to level out. some people are getting in because there is the new home buyer's credit. mortgage rates are still at 50 year lows. they have come up a little bit. some people are getting in because they are investors, not individual people buying houses. they are buying groups of houses because the deal is so good. bottom line is, they are getting in, which is stabilizing home prices. >> how about the stock market? >> march 9th looks to be the bottom. market dropped from the top wirks was october, 2007, when the dow was at 14,000 downtown bottom, march 9th. sin then, we are up month are than 40% on the dow, on the nasdaq, the s&p. >> 40%? >> more than 40%. this is going to be the best
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july in decades for the stock market. that is real. it doesn't mean it can't go down again. there really have been substantial gains. you read my book. in a good year, the average person can hope to make 10% or 11% in the stock market. can you imagine if you make 4%?% how about this gross domestic profit? >> gdp is the biggest measure of everything that goes on in this economy, everything we build, everything we make. it is measured in quarters. so this is the second quarter. this is a march to the end of june of this year. it was down 1% compared to a year ago. >> why is that good? >> because it is not down 6% compared to the year before. the trend is going um. it is minuscule. the issue is when the third quarter gdp, when this number comes in, will it be less than 1% or might it be positive? >> are you ready for the $60,000 question? >> hit me.
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>> are we at bottom? >> well, at this point of recession, bottom means different things. we have not seen the end of the job losses. to most people, that's what matters the most. we are probably bottoming it out in the housing market and hit bottom in the stock market. that always happens. the stock market always recovers six to eight months before the rest of the economy. >> when president obama gave his first speech, he said, sometime this year, we will hit double digit unemployment. you put it in perspective. three good, one real bad. >> we did confirm from honda about that recall. they do say there has been one death and six injuries from these air bags that don't deploy properly. they will be sending out notices to everybody. >> hey, man, have a great weekend. always great to have a conversation with you. >> you too, buddy. you bend this a little bit because she dropped -- >> well, i mean, i don't lie and
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make things up ever, it's wrong but if i need to a little bit to protect a cop -- >> you will be hearing this for yourself. a police cover-up caught on tape. you get to decide when you hear it and see it for yourself. a new wrinkle in the story of the famous female sports reporter who was secretly photographed in her hotel room naked. you are going to hear the 911 call ligright here. then, the aftershow on cnn.com/live at 4 eastern. we are going to bring it to you. stay right there.
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just happens once in a while. i have just been told by angie that chad myers has something he wants to show us. when chad says he wants to be on tv, by goly, he goes on tv. >> i have a couple of things, a krnd watch in connecticut and also have this. watch, watch, watch. >> what is that? >> here it comes. literally, videographer, surfing videos was doing the st. augustine beach and all of the sudden, this lightning strit hit the beach, knocked him back. they said the people inside the house, all they did, they lost their internet. the good news is look at the roof. >> what are you doing on the roof if there is a thunderstorm with lightning? >> he is a videographer. i know, you want to be inside. we say, get inside. >> not smart. looks like he is on a balcony. >> he is on a balcony, the third
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story balcony looking over here. they got to looking at this house and could not find where the lightning strike hit at all. no one injured, thank goodness. >> i apologize. it looked like he was on the roof, didn't it? then i saw the framing there. >> he is still too close. you don't want to be where the wind is getting you. if the water is getting you, the lightning can get you too. >> one more thing, this, rick, in connecticut. a tornado warning in effect right now. there is going to be more of these moving east towards durham. i am seeing a little bit of rotation. into the carolina, there is a potential for severe weather with tornadoes. if one pops up, i will let you know. we have the story of erin andrews coming up in a little bit, the 911 call everybody is wanting to hear. we have the story of these police officers that didn't know they were being recorded by their own dash-cam video that has a microphone.
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here it is. we've been telling you about this. this dash cam recording that got a couple of police officers in some big trouble in florida. a weird sequence of events as well. let me take you through this. we are in hollywood florida back in february. a police car is involved in a fender-bender. it looks like it is not the citizen's car or the citizen who is at fault. it is the cops who appear to be at fault. as it turns out, by sheer coincidence, the driver of the car they rear-ended admits to being under the influence. so the policemen are heard on their dash cam recorder hatching a plan to blame the accident on the drunk driver. guess what? it appears that they forgot, the
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camera and the microphone on the dash cam was rolling. let's listen together. shall we? >> she was drunk so it is what it >> if i bend it to help a cop -- did you hear that? if i need to bend it a little bit to protect the cop, i'm going to. he's going to talk about the official police report of the accident and the other driver's arrest. hey, it seems according to officials, they knew what they were doing was wrong. now, what does the police department of hollywood, florida, have to say? this. "they would not be able to comment." it's actually a violation of law for them to talk to us about these allegations. in the meantime, four officers are on administrative leave.
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they could face charges, we now understand. and we've also learned the crime scene technician is also under scrutiny. and we understand the charges against the woman driver, they have been dropped. the very latest on erin andrews. as you know, she was photographed by someone who drilled a hole through a hotel room wall. and now the 911 tape. llllll
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video of her, well, maked in a hotel room. that brought a stampeding parade of paparazzi. the latest is this. there is a 911 phone call to the police where she is heard complaining and it's how she does it, complaining about a news photographer who's outside her place of residence. let's listen. >> 911. >> i was in the news recently about being in a hotel naked, and i have paparazzi outside my window and i was told by law enforcement that if i did to call 911. >> meet with them when they come out? >> these guys are sitting in a car outside my house right now. i would like to tell the officer to have them leave because the cops have told me to call 911 if they're outside my house. >> and what's your name? >> my name is erin. my last name is andrews. i'm all over the news right now. >> i'm not familiar. all over the news. >> i'm the girl that was vid
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videotaped without her knowing without her clothes in the ho l hotel. >> really? >> and i've got two [ bleep ] sitting outside my house. >> i'm so sorry. >> i am too, thank you. >> some things you shouldn't have to explain. she closed the 911 call saying she has been treated like blank britney spears. by the way, espn is investigating whether it was a co-worker that actually took the video of her, drilled the hole in the wall between their hotel rooms. so much for freelancing. coming up -- our conversation continues, so keep your laptop handy, keep tweeting. i'm going to be joined by professor boyce watkins to revisit the story we started at the beginning of this program. a boston officer and the cambridge sergeant. i was in the grocery store when i had a heart attack.
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and up to 600 miles between fill ups. it's the most fuel efficient crossover on the highway. better than honda cr-v, toyota rav4 and even the ford escape hybrid. the all new chevy equinox. this story we showed you a little while ago about these two police officers down in south florida who are seemingly recorded on their dashcam video planning to change a police report to make it look like the woman in front who they rear-ended was at fault rather than them, man, it's getting a lot of buzz on twitter, as you
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might imagine. i'm going to read you a couple of these, all right? then i want to ask boyce watkins about this. it says, police have their own agenda and think they're above the law is frightening to say the least. obviously after you show something like that, you'll get a lot of these reactions. that is absolutely ridiculous. is there something in these cops' coffee that have them turning into bad cops? again, it's not all cops. wh what in the world? how could those cops not know they were being taped by a cam wra ra in their police car? so many bad cops, so little time to throw the bums in jail with the rest of the criminals. then this one says they, the cops, they knew they were being recorded. they just expected the other cops to help with the cover-up, like usual. boyce watkins is joining us now. he's in a unique situation because his father was a police officer and he's grown up around the badge. you know, it's tough. my brother's a police officer. and i'm damn proud of him, and i think he's a great cop and a
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great human being, just like i'm sure you would say about your dad. but it's tough not to watch video like the one we just showed and not come away with the impression that too many of them are that way. is it not? >> yeah. there are a t lot of bad cops out there. what's interesting is even those cops that would be technically defined as good cops, they sort of feel that they have the power all the time and that if they can do something legally, then it doesn't matter if it's morally correct. and one of the issues you can actually critique sergeant crowley on, and i've supported him on certain areas, but one area i would critique him is, you know, he could legally arrest professor gates. i don't believe he broke the law. >> of course he can. >> but morally right. if you didn't feel in danger and you knew it was his house, why arrest the guy? so, i think the limits of police authority really need to be questioned in our society. >> let's do this. let's you and i go to life life cnn.com/hln where we're going to continue this conversation. i want to talk about thehe
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