>> check out how close this chair got to getting hit by lightning. that's what i should have read. the guy with the videocamera was super close, too. a little information. here we go. apparently recorded in st. augusta, florida. >> i think that's augustine. >> is it really, now? >> isn't it? >> this is one of those things i probably read, too, before going on the air with it, don't you think. that does it for 360. thanks for watching. "larry king" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, exclusive. who was the real michael jackson? his protege who lived at neverland reveals what she knows about michael's kids, his relationship with other children and the boy named omar. is he the pop star's secret son? then, shark scare.

will you go in the water knowing this is out there? meet the people who dared to take a dip and came face-to-face with a mouthful of daggers. they survived. and they're here to share their death-defying stories next on "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in tonight for larry king. our first guest is nisha kataria. she was a protege of michael jackson and lived in neverland back in 2003. she recorded a duet with michael. she is an artist in her own right, thanks for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> tell me about meeting michael jackson, how that came about? >> michael jackson's manager got ahold of my demo and he listened to my track "i will always love

you," originally done by whitney houston. they were sitting in neverland and he played michael my "i will always love you" song. michael said wow, who is this girl? can you call her? and so next thing you know we drove to california to meet michael and i met him and the very first time i met him he had a big smile on his face. he was very, very friendly and gave me a hug. prince and paris and grace the nanny were all in the room they all gave me a hug. >> you were living in phoenix at the time? >> yes. we lived in phoenix and drove to california to meet him. >> so did you go to neverland to meet him? >> yes. we drove into neverland. i remember seeing the big neverland ranch sign. when you enter neverland and you feel him, but i hadn't seen him yet. i was just so nervous. he had the biggest smile on his face the moment he walked into the library in his house to meet me for the first time. >> for those who haven't been there the gates are intimidating and you drive through and it is a long way until you actually get to the house. >> yeah.

>> what was it like? describe that first meeting for us if you could. your impressions of michael jackson? >> he is the biggest star in the universe, the most recognizable man on this planet. and i was just super nervous to meet him. he came in with a huge smile on his face. paris and prince came in and introduced themselves to me. they were about to shake my hands and michael said we don't shake hands in this family. we give hugs. so they gave me a hug. then michael sat down and i sat down and we just started having a nice conversation. he asked me if i could sing for him. i stood up. i asked him what would you like to hear? he said would you sing "i will always love you." i sang au capella. he said nisha, you have the voice of an angel. >> you eventually moved in for a short time to neverland? >> yes, i did. he decided he wanted to record with me. so me and my mom kind of moved into one of the guest units and

lived there. >> what was that like to live at neverland? it's been described as so many different things. part playground, fantasy land. there were statues all over. there was a zoo there. what was living there like? >> every morning when we would open our windows in the guest house, we would like at the lake. there were two elephants being bathe. there is music playing throughout the ranch and a movie theater. everything you could ever dream of is at the ranch. it was one of the best experiences of my life living there. >> how long did you live there? >> a little over two months. >> you recorded with michael jackson? >> yes. we recorded a song he wrote and we recorded it in his private studio in the ranch. >> do you expect that that song will ever be released? >> i really hope so. we are talking about making a tribute and putting it on my upcoming album.

>> joe jackson was on television the other night. dropped a bombshell on an interview with newsone. he was responding to rumors that a young man, i believe you know him, omar bhatti, was michael's son. take a look at this. >> michael may have had another child. omar is his name. everyone said he was sitting right there next to rebbie and everyone was trying to connect some dots. do you know that is michael's other son? >> yes. i knew he had another son. yes, i did. >> he looks like a jackson. >> oh, yes. he looks like a jackson. he acts like a jackson. he can dance like a jackson. >> nisha, you knew omar. what is your reaction to that clip? >> i mean, i saw him in the ranch. he lived there when i lived there. i actually, the first time i actually got to meet him was the second time i sang for michael i sang "because you loved me."

with my cd. michael and his nephew eli and omar and prince came in and sat down and michael was telling them, okay, listen. you have to hear her sing. this was before i moved in. they were looking at each other smiling as i was singing. he was always smiling. friendly boy. >> i need to note for our audience, cnn has not been able to confirm joe jackson's assertion that o maur is, in fact, michael jackson's son. according to news reports, omar, himself, has denied any biological connection to michael jackson. nisha, you mentioned paris and prince and blanket. paris i believe was about 6 or 5 and prince a year older. blanket just a baby. did you see them interact at all with michael jackson as a dad? >> i did. you would think that these kids could have anything they ever wanted because michael jackson's their father. there was one time me and my mom and michael and prince were all in the movie theater. there is a concession stand with all the popcorn and candy you

could ever ask for. we were in the theater and my mom offered prince a candy bar and michael told her politely he can't have anymore today. he already had some. so you could tell they were disciplined kids and close to their father and polite, friendly kids. >> the world first saw paris at michael's memorial. many people were surprised. she was almost elegant and very sweet and spoke from the heart. how did you find all three kids? >> they're adorable kids. there was one incident when grace was driving us from the movie theater back to the main house, because it's kind of a little bit far. i was in the front passenger seat. and paris and my mom were in the back of the lincoln navigator. and paris kept tapping on my shoulder and hiding. i would look back. she was smiling and all embarrassed. then i would sit normal again and she would tap me on the shoulder again. she played peek-a-boo games. she was just a cute, normal little kid.

all of them were. >> so many people have misconceptions that michael and his children had an odd relationship. would you describe it as a typical father/child relationship with each of his kids? >> absolutely. they were happy kids. >> if you haven't seen it yet, check out our blog for an inside account of what went on inside michael jackson's house before and after paramedics were called to the scene. it's at cnn.com/larryking. more with nisha and why michael was drawn to her. [ new age music plays ]

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back with nisha kataria, protege of michael jackson's. as we told you, she, her voice first attracted michael jackson. the song "i will always love you" played a key role in her connection with michaels jackson. let's listen to a little of nisha singing it. ♪ and i will always love you ♪ i will always love you ♪ i will always love you >> nisha, you were 17 when you sang that? >> yeah, i was. >> wow. that's all i can say, wow. >> thank you. >> you say michael jackson said

you have a voice of an angel. it's just beautiful. what was it like recording with him? >> incredible. this is the man behind "billie jean" and those amazing songs. being in the studio and seeing the master at work, actually seeing him walk around the studio and come up with all these ideas in his head right in front of you. he would come up with a melody and say, okay, nisha, sing this line. he would sing it and i would repeat it into the mirks phone and they would record it. it was amazing seeing him doing it right in front of me and giving me the song. it was an incredible feeling. >> nisha, when was the last time you spoke to michael jackson? >> i spoke to him in 2003. at the radio music awards. >> so what brought your time at neverland to an end? >> this was right before the police raided the ranch. for the trial that he had to go through. >> that trial, just to point

out, he was acquitted on all charges. >> yes. >> it is because of that trial, i talked to his criminal lawyer, he never wanted to go back to neverland. did you talk to him at all? >> he never went back to neverland. we were the last guests to live with him at neverland. he never went back there. >> what is your reaction to the way michael jackson has been treated and publicly portrayed? you spent time with him more than most people. >> he's just the nicest human being i have ever met in my life. for one of the most successful people in the world, for him to open his heart and invite me and my family to move into neverland and for him to take a girl with a big voice who has a dream. he decided, you know, he wants to help me in my career and wants to be the man to put me out to the world. that tells a lot about a person to open up their home to an unknown girl. he treated me like family. >> do you feel in a way you have lost a guardian angel?

>> i do. it hasn't sunk in yet that he is definitely gone. he is definitely going to remain alive through his music. >> how did you find out he had passed away? >> i was actually in phoenix where i live and my manager called me and told me to put it on cnn. at that time they were just saying he had been hospitalized. i never imagined it would get any worse than that. i got in the car to drive somewhere and my manager told me, he passed away. so i pulled into a parking lot and my manager was crying and i was crying. i have never heard him cry like that. so it was really -- my manager was with him for ten years, worked for him for ten years. so they had a really close relationship as well. it was just really sad and unbelievable. >> he took you under his wing and you stayed at neverland for a couple of months. what advice did he give you from one artist to another? >> one of the best things he told me was -- this was actually a telephone conversation we had when i was living at neverland.

he told me that, nisha, you're going to do very well. i said thank you. he said if you take an average singer and you give them an incredible song then they'll do well. you take a wonderful singer such as yourself and give them an amazing song, they've got it made. so just coming from him it meant so much. >> listening to that clip you are clearly a wonderful singer. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> michael's children, can they move forward and in peace now that a custody agreement has been apparently reached? back with some answers in 60 seconds. stay with us. who can give you the financial advice you need? where will you find the stability and resources to keep you ahead of this rapidly evolving world? these are tough questions. that's why we brought together two of the most powerful names in the industry. introducing morgan stanley smith barney. here to rethink wealth management. here to answer... your questions. morgan stanley smith barney.

a new wealth management firm with over 130 years of experience. welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry. the michael jackson custody case appears to be solved. charles sophie, psychiatrist, l.a. county department of chirp and family services. michelle golland, clinical

psychologist and contributor to momlogic.com. and neal hersh is here. a family law torn and expert in custody issues. thanks a lot for joining us. a custody agreement is reached between katherine and debbie rowe to get visitation with her biological children from a medical standpoint, psychiatrist position, they don't know her as their mom. is this going to be difficult? >> they are not going to know anybody as their mom. that is probably the female in their life they may know the most, hopefully. it is a family member. that's really what you want to look for. a tight bond or one that has already started. so you can build on it. >> dr. golland, i'm sure they look at the internet. they must know who debbie rowe is. they have never been introduced. she's met them. they call her miss debbie. >> right. they never have called her mother. >> they are dealing with the loss of a dad. >> right. they're dealing with a loss of

their parent and really what was a single parent. right? that's what we're talking about. they're having to deal with the grief around that at the time that i think what has happened with the media, i think the grief process has probably been a little stunted. hopefully now with the custody battle being resolved, even the camp, you know, katherine and all of them can start to just focus on the kids. >> the best interest of the child has to be upfront. those children have to be safe, emotionally safe, physically, and able to be allowed to be children and live and become whole. >> neil, you have a lot of experience in custody issues. with an agreement in place, they still have to go before a judge. you know this judge. you like this judge. >> yes, i do. >> what are the odds the judge will approve it? >> i think it is a certainty. i think the judge is going to be very happy it has ended. that the kids can get finality. get some normalcy. i think the judge is going to be delighted and very, very happy.

i expect to see monday a permanent order in place. >> permanent order but only to the extent that katherine jackson remains alive. >> yes, of course. >> you believe there is no, not necessarily an agreement in place for what happens next. they could be back in court in a few years? >> i'm almost certain -- by the way, legally they couldn't make an agreement that's binding as to what would happen if katherine passes away. i'm certain there is no such agreement in place. after katherine passes, it should be a long time hopefully, but when she passes you're going to see people come around to raise the issue of custody again. >> you have a child psychologist or professional in this mix to help bridge the biological mom to these children. >> how does that work? >> hopefully the visitation is monitored. they'll work it out. where is visitation? when is visitation? who is present? >> does a child psychologist say at one point to two of the kids, this is your mom?

how does that happen? >> it has to start with asking those children questions. what is their current understanding where they're at today and be able to make that determination of where you start to bridge. i think finding out where the other child is rooted would also be helpful. the bottom line is they need a family. they have one. they have a support. they have aunts, uncles, cousins, a bio mom. >> the maternal figure i think is going to end up being multiple women. it's going to be the aunts. there may be a place for debbie rowe as well. >> there is safety in numbers. >> it needs to be solid and consistent going forward now. >> i have a different take on this a little bit. i think debbie rowe's involvement is going to be very tans gentle even though they say they're going to start seeing them. you know, on one side of this equation it could look like they are grooming debbie rowe to come back into the children's lives in case something happened to katherine. i suspect and i would defer to

the therapist here that that probably isn't going to happen. i think she is going to be a figure in their lives, kind of in their lives for the reasons you have just said. the kids must know who debbie rowe is. they have to know this information. i don't think miss rowe is going to play a significant role. >> you are talking about kids 7, 11 and 12. they are each dealing with something very different. >> yes. >> their perceptions are very different. >> i think what's important. this is just in a normal grieving process. there needs to be honesty as age appropriate. i think the idea -- i think what was also out there is the fact they didn't even know who debbie rowe was. you know, i think truthfully for us as a larger society, we're dealing with what it means to have a surrogate. look, we have jessica parker. this is about what it means to have a surrogate and how do we as a culture and society deal with that role? >> these are blended families. that is the way america is. we have to be age able to support this kind of mechanism. if the court is going to sanction it, that is great. if they are going to support it, that is great. let's try to make it work.

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welcome back to "larry king live." we have a caller from staten island. you question? >> caller: i wonder what diana ross' opinion is about her being the one to have the kids if anything happened to katherine jackson? >> well, it's my understanding, neil, that diana ross was next in line and it hasn't come before the court whether or not she approved it or not. >> the fact with diana ross listed in will, it's only suggestion of the person making the will. >> that is not binding? >> that is not binding on the court. the fact she did not come

forward, diana ross, indicates she suggested katherine's request for the custody of these kids. if something happened to katherine, if diana ross would have come forward or not. it was an indication what michael would have liked. that's all. >> we have another call from buffalo, new york. your question? buffalo? you're on. can you hear me? >> caller: yes, i can. >> go ahead, please. >> caller: hi, yes. i'm wondering how the smallest child, blanket, fits into all this. i mean, the other two are going to know who their mom are. what is going to happen to him? >> that is a great question. doctors, i'll put it to both of you. when you talk about a sense of loss. two of the kids will know they have a mom. one has lost everything. >> right. >> how do you deal with blanket differently? >> as i said before, i think you need to find out what he does know and what has been kind of solidified to him and go from there. it's dulled in the three of them all together based on the commonality of their dad.

i have a lot of patients who lost both patients, one parent, you build them together. solidifying him into the mix is much more important than finding out who his biological mother or father is. >> again, i think societily, we need to really understand there are different forms of family now. and that even for blanket, i mean, we don't know what the agreement was with the surrogate mother. i mean, and i know with clients and other people, they have an agreement that in the future if the child wants to know who the surrogate is, there can be contact. i think it's also a real educational moment for our country around what sir gasy is. >> neil is shaking his head. the surrogate mother may not know she is the surrogate mother? regardless of whether she knows. she has no rights. >> my sense is that this woman is out of the picture and you will never see her coming around ever. >> find out what the kid knows so that we can then guide him appropriately. >> absolutely. >> how will -- the question we posed going into the break, the

custody is settled, but the estate could find itself in a battle. how will that affect the kids? >> well, i think -- >> they may know there are battle lines being drawn. >> they know. the biggest concern would be that they would end up feeling as if they're a commodity. that whoever has them is attached to the money so that their identity becomes infused, right, with this sense of financial gain by whoever is attached with them. >> i mean, a gain you would hope the solid adults placed in their life keep that from them and let them be the children they need to be so they can grow to be the adults they can be. >> jim, i think you are going to see the financial aspects go swimmingly and smoothly. >> why do you say that? >> because the beneficiaries of michael's estate are one, his mother, and two, his children. they're all living together. so it's going to be one happy family and i think that the disputes are going to be resolved very peacefully far more so than we thought. >> again, best interest of the children.

>> when you are talking about best interest of the children, they may very well see news reports about their father. the investigation. michael jackson by his own admission had a problem, an addiction with drugs. you have that layered on top of the loss. how do you deal with that? >> i think every child needs to know who their parent is, age appropriately to deal with it. you rely on the adults in their life to give it to them in doses so they process it. over this whole process you have a psychiatrist navigating -- >> where would these kids be five, six weeks out? it's still fresh. >> oh, they are raw. they're in a new house. >> they're in a new house. >> new family. >> new community, new friends. maybe a new school. >> yeah. the media has stunted the grieving process. >> exactly. >> one of the biggest things with kids and grieving they get a lot of attention when it happens. well this, talk about attention. this is a huge amount of

attention. >> how does -- they have paparazzi outside the house. >> what do you do when the attention goes away -- >> when the dust settles you deal with the feelings that are coming up and hope it is good. >> they will be scrutinized in their lives. >> the masks are off. literally. >> i hope they are protected. >> is that a good thing? >> i think it is a good thing. they need to be real people. they need to know how to be real. feel their feelings and have someone guide them to deal with it. >> on the plus side, maybe these kids can get more normalcy in their lives now than they ever could before. it's a terrible thing. it's a terrible loss. maybe their lives will just setting down a little bit not having michael with them every minute of every day. we just don't though. >> let's take a break. we'll be back with more. hold the thought. we'll come right back. announcer: some people buy a car based on the deal they get. others buy the car of their dreams. during the lexus golden opportunity sales event, you can do both.

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welcome back to "larry king live" lx. i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry. what would you tell katherine? she is a grand mom but now she is going to be the mom. what does she do? >> the biggest thing is deal with the grief that they're going through. that's going to be -- >> she's going through grief, too. she's lost her son. >> yeah. yeah. i think it is about stability and i think it's about being able to answer the questions, age appropriately. >> giving them permanence and -- >> do you expect these kids are asking questions? >> oh, yeah, they should be. if they didn't i would be worried. giving them space to emote and having their feelings come up is the best thing to do in a permanent, safe setting. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> no, no. i was going to say hopefully the family is going to take the resources available to them to make sure the kids have therapists, questions answered

and a safe environment and be really able to work out these very difficult problems. >> we saw paris for the first time at the memorial. most people were stunned at her grace. poise. what was your reaction when you saw her? >> that he must have been a darn good dad to be able to bring that out in that child. >> right. even through all that. and let's face it, being a drug addict and dealing with the way he had to cope with all the things. he also must have done a lot of good. >> she was loved. you could tell that. >> you can see the family in this clip, the family literally and figuratively embracing her. >> a picture's worth a thousand words. >> when the relationship is there, you can tell. >> when katherine was looking to get custody you could tell this was a family where she had an ongoing relationship with all these people. >> and with the aunts and so forth. i think with grief and children, what is also really important is to understand they -- children respond differently. some children may become more shut down while some may really

be aggressive and have emotional outbursts. so to understand and be prepared. i think personalities may shift a little. that is how children deal with the sadness and anger. >> allow them emotional space. >> neil, just very briefly, quick answer, we have 30 seconds. do you think these kids can have a normal life? >> i actually do. i'm hopeful things will settle down and they will get into a routine that's very normalized. hopefully that will happen. >> i agree. i'm very hopeful. i think with things in place and therapy and stabt. >> i also think so. as long as katherine can provide safety and permanence, they should be on good path. >> charles sophy, michelle golland, neal hersh. when we come back, sharks, not lawyers, sharks. the close calls that turn swimmers into survivors. it's next. i'm a lawyer, too. >> it's a swimmer's worst nightmare. >> suddenly, shark attacks are headline news across the

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starting walking in and it hit me. the impact is incredible. like somebody hit me in the back of the leg really hard with a baseball bat. >> welcome back to "larry king live." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" sitting in for larry tonight. it is shark week on discovery. this sunday. my 11-year-old matthew and my favorite. joining me now, andy deheart and patrick walsh is a shark attack survivor. he took a video. in pensacola, florida, chuck anderson is here. he lost most of his right arm during a bull shark attack. andy, shark week is 23 years old? >> actually the 22nd year, discovery channel's shark week programming. something about sharks striking a chord in the folks. glad they are tuning in.

>> i think ever since "jaws" in '75 i'm terrified when i go to the beach. a lot of people are especially looking at this footage, you understand why. >> absolutely. you are not alone. a lot of people had their lives changed by the movie "jaws." there's something about sharks but also the water environment. we're not comfortable in the water. fear of the unknown. these animals are no more dangerous than grizzly bears in national parks. >> yes, but there are no grizzly bears in the water. chuck, tell us about your experience? >> i was in gulf shores, alabama on june the 9th of 2009 with some friends of mine. a 64-year-old lady and i went 150 years off the beach and swam from the east back to the west. a minute into the swim, something hit me from the bottom. i equate it to a fullback over linebacker in football terminology. it rolled me up on my back. though i didn't see what it was, i pretty much knew exactly what it was. i started treading water because

there was about 15 feet there. i started looking around. i put my face down in the water and i saw what it was. it was a big shark. i threw my hands to protect myself toward the shark and took four fingers off my right hand. all that's left was my thumb. he hit me in my stomach. i have a shark's tooth scar. a gash on the upper left hand side of my stomach. the fourth time i saw the fin coming through the water. i heard you all talking about "jaws" and all that was missing was the music. i tried to push off of him again. this time he attached to my right arm and took me down to the bottom and swung me around and did the feeding frenzy thing. scuffed my back and shoulder and hip up. he came to the surface and i was able to get my left hand on his nose. people said i looked like i was skis he pushed me so fast through the water. we ended up on a sandbar off the beach. he was laying on the right side of my body. i was able to wiggle out. when i tried to jerk my arm, he

stripped my arm, what they call degloving it. taking it completely off from the elbow. my hand popping off in his mouth. i ran to the beach. >> did people come to your assistance immediately? to help rescue you? >> well, actually, the lady i was swimming with was at the beach. she helped guide me up to the boardwalk. two gentlemen came down, took their shirt off and attached a tourniquet. pretty soon the paramedics got there quickly. >> how long was the recovery? >> started training about -- well, i was in the hospital for 13 days in intensive care. aspirated a lot of salt water. that was probably worse than the blood i lost in my arm. i stayed in intensive care for 13 days and got back to walking about 15 days after the accident. the accident occurred in june and in april in 2001 i did my first triathlon after the accident. it took a lot of hard work.

if you love something and enjoy doing something you don't let a shark attack stop you from doing it. >> that is easier said. i would be terrified. what was it like? you walk back on the beach for the very first time. you say, okay, this is the first time since this shark attack. i'm going back in. what went through your mind? >> it was difficult the first time i put my face back in saltwater. >> did you look over your shoulder a lot? >> i made sure i had a lot of people around me. i did a triathlon. that was the first time i got back in the water was the first day i did my triathlon. there were about 750 people around me. i figured if i stayed in the middle of the pack and upfront i would be a little safer. chances of getting bitten by a shark are less than getting hit by a car or killed by a vending machine. i figured my chances were pretty good getting back in. i have done 15 to 17 triathlons since that date and pretty comfortable back in the water

now. >> i don't know anyone killed by a vending machine but i will take your word for it. thank you very much, chuck, for telling us your story. >> thank you. the next best or worst thing to a close encounter to a "jaws" kind. some of the scariest footage you will ever seen krishna thompson's survivor see. story is truly one from the book. >> most of the flesh and muscle tissue below krishna's left thigh is gone. he is on his own far from land and bleeding to death. the summer of the shark is about to claim its next statistic. now the colors of life can last a lifetime. valspar -- the beauty goes on.

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the water is unusually murky. a bull shark is swimming nearby. 100 million years of evolution gives the shark the ability to hunt in water where it can barely see. a shark can hear a school of spawning fish from over a mile away. from 500 yards it can smell a single drop of blood. at 300 feet, sensors in the lateral lines along its body can detect movement in the water. and at close range hundreds of tiny pores in its snout can pick up the electromagnetic pulse of the beating heart of a fish or a human. this is the bull shark's home in the shallow, murky waters.

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probably two motives, robbery and a contract hit. sheriff david morgan calling a late news conference. what he said. learning tonight michael jackson's autopsy has been delayed indefinitely as you reported. randi kaye has new details from the search warpt released. hunting pythons in florida. 17-foot snake caught yesterday. there are 100,000 pythons in the state on the loose. we'll show you how the state is dealing with them. those stories and news about the economy, whether the recession may be about to be over. those stories ahead on "360." >> thank you, anderson. from pythons back to sharks. andy, patrick and chuck are with us. shark week coming up on discovery on sunday. krishna thompson, his nightmare is featured in the episode "shark bite summer." i guess you're sorry that narrator wasn't there to say stay out of the water? >> i'm glad. >> must be a heroine experience

to go through that. do you relive it? was it horrific? >> it was. i underestimated the power of the shark. they are so powerful. when i saw that shark coming toward me, i actually thought that i could get out of its way. but that -- >> how big was it? >> i hear, like, according to george burgess, i believe he told me eight feet. >> and talk about the power. you said you thought you could out-swim or overpower the shark. you clearly couldn't. >> i thought i could but i saw the shark coming from the corner of my eye. i saw that fin coming right toward me and i actually tried to twist my body and throw my body weight toward the land and as i threw my body, the shark -- i actually felt the shark's body swim through my legs, graze my inner knee, my right knee, and

it caught my left leg in midair between my knee and my ankle. i was just shocked and i was just -- i just couldn't believe it. i just started to think about my wife and family and friends and i thought, i don't even have any kids yet. i started thinking all these terrible thoughts. but -- >> did you think you were going to die? >> i tell you one thing, i did think i was going to die because i had no control as far as, you know, when you in the ocean, jim, and an animal has you and it's at its liberty to live, die or breathe, that it is scary feeling. but you know what, i remained calm, cool and waited the shark

out and one of the few things i tried to do is i tried to use my body weight to shake loose. when you know when you are in the pool playing around with friends and you grab them and slip through their fingers. this wasn't happening. i could not get out of its jaws. i remember when the shark caught my leg i heard its teeth go right into my bones. it towed me out further out into the deep with my waist out of the water. i was just shocked. >> how did you get away? >> through a prayer and a little luck. before you know it, the shark kept towing me out further into the ocean and then i -- like i said i tried to use my body weight to get loose. that did not work. and then before you know it, the shark pulled me down under the water and started shaking me like a ragdoll and when the shark was actually shaking me

like a rag doll, i just had to tense my body up and i tried to not allow any water to get in my nose or mouth because if that happens, it's not going to be good. i would drown. i waited out the shark and when the shark stopped shaking me it was time for action. now it was my time. i tried to imagine the shark's jaws in relation to my leg. i did not feel pain but i felt pressure. so i threw one punch in that area of where i thought the shark had my leg and then i reached down with both my hands, again, it sounds pretty silly but i was desperate and i had to breathe and i released myself. i couldn't believe it. it worked. it actually worked. the shark let me go and it actually spun 360 degrees around

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i remember just looking down and that's when everything became even worse. i realized that there's actually two other sharks, 14, 15-foot sharks just circling below me. at that moment, it was sheer terror. >> welcome back. i'm jim moret of "inside edition." we are talking sharks on "larry king live." andy, chuck and krishna are still with us as we get to patrick walsh's story. patrick was attacked by a great white while cage diving. you were cheating, obviously, and you took video of the attack. his story is featured in the episode "day of the shark." thanks for joining us. you have a visual aid? with you? >> i do. i've got a segment of the cage, what's left of it here. >> okay. give us -- this is -- >> pretty strong. >> i mean, it ripped this right apart? >> yeah.

ripped the welds right off. see it put a nice bend in it. that's from the weight of the tail. you heard krishna's story. you were able to witness the power without suffering personal injury but you clearly saw the power of these sharks. >> yeah. it's immense. this particular shark was approximately 15 to 16 feet in length, probably close to 2,000 pounds. >> this is you underwater? >> yes. this is my footage. honestly, prior to this shark hitting the cage i thought i was in a cage that was -- there was no chance of it being breached. these cages were substantial. it took a crew of six people to put it into the water. >> you know, sharks are being hunted now. >> right. >> what do you feel about that? do you think they should be protected? >> absolutely. i think what's going on around the world in terms of sharks being killed for no apparent reason, just for finning, for

shark fin soup, things like that -- >> andy is marine biologist. andy, we have a graphic. what makes certain areas of the world hotspots for shark attacks, as we put the graphic up on the screen? explain to us what is it? you look at the world here, you look at florida, the bahamas. what is it? warm water? there is hawaii. >> one of the thing you're looking at is species that live in that region. the great white shark, tiger shark and bull shark which have been featured. diving with those animals can be incredibly safe in all of these areas. the main hotspot in the world is in florida, new smirna beach. there have been 610 shark attacks in florida, only 13 fatali fatalities. these are small sharks. >> you look at the graphic, looks like everywhere people swim there are sharks. we don't want to be alarmist. you respect sharks but have to be mindful of them.