what we have done to expand our coverage is some of the blogs that the shooter left behind. what he had said leading up to this shooting which will, if nothing else, amazing, to hear exactly what he had planned to do and why he planned to do this. what his thoughts were. let's begin the show with showing you exactly what we are going to be getting into over the next hour. >> put your hands behind your back. now. >> why do they keep tasing him? you will see it for yourself. neighbors are furious that the man flying this flag. he is going to join me live. is there a secret

fundamentalist organization at the heart of american power. >> i was part of a group called c street when i was in washington. >> c street, what is it? who are they? what do they believe? the author of the family joins me. the arrival after the pardon. >> euna and i would like to express our deepest gratitude to president clinton. moments that require few words but make a part of our national conversation for wednesday, august 5th, 2009. hello again, everybody. i'm rick sanchez with the next generation of news. this is a conversation, not a speech. as always, it's your turn to get involved. this story coming out of pittsburgh if you have been watching this news conference is fascinating to say the very least. we are learning more about this

horrible mass killing. more than 30 gun shots. 31 as you just heard the police officer describe. at a suburban pittsburgh center. it was an l.a. fitness. you have seen those all over the country. now, we can show him to you. 48-year-old georges sodini. looks like an average guy. on that blog, now removed from the internet, he left diary entries. this gets interesting. what it reveals is what really pushed this man to the edge. let me share some of these with you. listen to this entry here. you ready. sodini wants to kill, he says. he is writing about his exit plan. that's what he calls it. december 28th, 2008, i will shoot, he says. tuesday, january 6th at 8:15. that's when he is planning to do

this, to kill these innocent people. i have a list of to-do items to make. that so-called exit plan was delayed several times. in the blogs we have been reading, he chickened out. he was afraid of what death was going to be like. that's what he said, he was afraid of what death would be like. last night, he didn't chicken out. he walks into the l.a. fitness. he goes into a latin dance aerobics class. he turns ott the lights so the room is pitch black and then he starts shooting 31 times according to police. can you imagine how long that took for those people trying to get out of there? can you imagine the horror for so many of those innocent women who were in that class? today, police have identified three of the women that were killed. they are elizabeth gannon, jody billingsly and heidi overmire,

all from pennsylvania. 10 others were shot before the gunman killed himself. listen to what he wrote. i want to take you back eight months ago. he writes, many of the young girls here look so beautiful as to not be normal. december 24th, no girlfriend since 1984. he is talking about himself. this is a constant theme with this guy. who knows why? i am not ugly or too weird? no sex since july, 1990. december 29th, he writes this. 30 million women reject me. that was the number in his head that he keeps throwing out about how many women don't like him. he thinks there are 30 million available women in the united states. then, he writes this. i am going to take you to december 31st. this is 2008. he is writing about his mother. he says, quote, the central boss. don't, you know what, her off or she will be mad and vindictive

for years. some kind of problem with women, maybe going back to his mother. i am going to bring in a psychologist. you know. she nails this stuff back down. this is dr. judy. dr. jude kuriansky. reading again from george's blog, may 25th, he writes, another lonely friday night. i am done. this is too much. fourth of july, i stayed in all day. no parties or picnics. then, august 3rd, monday, the day before sodini's exit plan as he calls it. there is only one shot. total effort needed. tomorrow is the big day. >> what was it like to be in that room when this crazy man walked in and took out a gun and turned out the lights and started shooting? >> what happened was, they were

in in a pilates class and they turned the lights out an the shooting started. >> by the time i figured out what was going on, i could see flashes in the aerobic room in the dark. that's when i realized someone was using a firearm inside of there. >> it was pretty intense. when you get a chance to think about it, it happened so fast. once you realize when you were outside what happened, you saw the people running around. there was people that were shot and bleeding. it was a lot to take in. >> joining us now is dr. judy, clinical psychologist. how are you? >> you are welcome. tragic story. >> always good to see you. maybe we can learn something from this guy. what was his problem with women? i don't know if you caught this when i was reading it. >> no girlfriend since 1984. who knows why. i'm not ugly or too weird. no sex since july, 1990 when i was 29 years old. who talks or keeps data like that around. >> a lot of people feel

rejected. there are men rejected, women rejected. you also read that he hated his mother and used some very nasty words toward her. when psychologically this kind of rejection from everyone. 30 million women, no sex. he is spewing this and blaming his mom. it gets very, very deep. most of us know how to deal with rejection and get over it. some people, like he, don't. it turns into suicide and murder. when you have a murder/suicide, the anger -- we heard the word hey tread but this is anger toward self and other into this explosion. >> i heard him e was ang. he was angry at the rest of the family. he doesn't like black men because too often young white women date them. he says, every black man should get a young white -- he uses a negative term to describe women. he criticizes about obama,

doesn't say nice things about his brother. this guy was an angry man. >> he had a lot of hatred and anger toward himself and others. not too dissimilar to the holocaust shooter who had a lot of hatred and in many other ways. i think what is also so powerful is that the internet was used. he had a web page, nobody noticed that this man was suffering. it says a lot about the internet and mental health. we are now into health care issues. mental health must be noticed. this man needed to talk. he was spewing on the internet. he needed to get out and somebody needed to be helping him. there need to be policing on the internet for these kind of talks. and posting. >> maybe it is me. as a catholic, it is a sin to kill yourself and certainly a

sin to kill others. i am a christian. we pray at my table with my kids. i go to church. this man, i read in here went to his pastor and we are not going to embarrass the guy, because it may not be true. who knows? we are not going to take it at face value. he talks in here about seeing a pastor and about being assured by the pastor that as soon as he did this, he would be going to heaven because jesus would forgive him and accept him. i'm a little worried about that, judy. >> i would worry. you are absolutely right. i would worry about this too. not everybody is qualified. we have a serious problem too in the training of mental health counselors at all levels, pastors should be trained. this is what funds have to go to in the government for mental health and training of people like you just said so that they can be found on the internet, in the church, in the community. now, the community is going to pay attention to mental health care and offering it to people

who are suffering. this needs to happen prevent tifl, not after the fact. >> unbelievable. >> this school system needs to pay the attention too. >> it's important stuff. i love your passion. i love the way you take is through this every time we call on you. you believe this and obviously, after we see a case like this, with the words that this guy left behind. by the way, we are going to put as many of these on our blog so you can read it. that's cnn.com/ricksanchez. i think it will further this national conversation. dr. judy, always good to see you. >> thank you. >> we were shocked. but we knew instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives was finally coming to an end. >> did you see this? it's a needed coop for the president and for the ex-president and one extremely emotional welcome.

we are going to rerack all this stuff and you are going to see it unfold. also, this is an important conversation. is there a secret organization run by fundamentalist lawmakers in washington? the book is called, "the family." it is a sensation, this book. everyone seems to be talking about it or trying to get their hands on it. we are going to talk with the author. he was once one of them, jeff charlotte. also, remember, the aftershow, c c cnn.com/live. for those of you who want to see it, stay with us. we will be light back.

a lot of tweets coming in on the story we have just shared with you. let's get a couple of these. i knew when reported this gym killer had a problem with women. it probably began with his relationship with his mother. boy, that seems to be the case. another instance of violence against women, sadly, these women weren't given a chance to survive. >> no, they weren't. by the way, we expect there might be some updates on that story. stay with us. we'll be taking you back to pittsburgh from time to time to bring you up to date. the meanwhile, the border of china and korea, laura ling and producer, euna lee, arrive home. this is where i have decided to shut up. roger, roll it.

>> proving once again there are stories for which words just get in the way. the families of both women credit former president, bill clinton, and his one-day trip to north korea for securing their release. listen to what laura ling said today recalling the moment she

and euna lee realized there was something about to change. >> we feared that at any moment, we could be sent to a hard labor camp. and then suddenly, we were told that we were going to a meeting. we were taken to a location and when we walked in through the doors, we saw standing before us president bill clinton. [ applause ] >> and he is a big guy. in just a minute, a california man is flying an american flag at his house that frankly looks like hell. wait until you see this. some people in his neighborhood are looking at this flag in tatters and they have got a

serious problem with it. he says, he has got a good reason to fly it. you know what? he may be right. i want your take on this. so i'm going to show you the flag and then you are going to hear from him. let's do this together. we'll be right back. welcome to the now network. population: 49 million. right now 1.2 million people are on sprint mobile broadband. 31 are streaming a sales conference from the road. eight are wearing bathrobes. two... less. - 154 people are tracking shipments on a train. - ( train whistles ) 33 are im'ing on a ferry. and 1300 are secretly checking email... - on a vacation. - hmm? ( groans ) that's happening now. america's most dependable 3g network. bringing you the first and only wireless 4g network. sprint. the now network. deaf, hard of hearing and people with speech disabilities access www.sprintrelay.com.

take a look at this flag. this might be the worst looking flag i have seen in my life. it is ripped, tattered, faded. who would let a flag like that fly in front of their house? it is beat up, neighbors are

teed off about this one, by wait. they are driving by this thing. they have told the guy who flies this flag, take it down. they have gone to his front porch and left brand new flags so he can replace this old, tattered flag with the new one. joining me now is lewis haros live it from fresno, california. thanks for being with us, sir. >> that's your flag? >> yes, is is it. >> your neighbors don't like that flag, right? >> no, they keep knocking on my door and demanding it to be removed. >> and you can understand why they might have that impression. to look at the flag, it is tattered. it looks old. i understand a lot of the people are veterans that live around you and it upsets them, right? >> yes. they have brought me flags. they tell me to remove it or they want to remove it themselves. i tell them the story behind the

flag and some of them agree with me and some don't. >> you are a vietnam veteran, sir? you served your country proudly? >> yes, sir, i spent 22 years in the military and put two tours in vietnam. >> now, tell people why you are not taking that flag down and why it is so special? tell us about your son, paul. >> my son, before he left to go to iraq, he came and brought me the flag and he raised it up and i, at that time, i told him, i will not replace that flag until you come and you bring it down yourself. so i made him a promise. i didn't realize that the flag would get in the condition that it is in right now. >> your son has done not one but two tours from iraq and i have been told by a little birdie after doing some research that your son has just arrived in the united states. is that right?

>> yes, sir. my son has done two tours in iraq and he is due to come in to fresno tomorrow at 8:30 in the morning. >> and when your son, paul, who has served his country well, arrives home and you give him that father and son hug, maybe even a kiss on the cheek like i do with my dad, that flag is going to come down and it is going to be finally replaced by a new flag? >> yes, sir. our plan is to bring him home and give him a new flag and put the other one away. i think we are going to give it to my grandson, which is his son. >> you know what, i bet you that most of the people listening right now after hearing your story have no problem with that old tattered flag anymore and respect you even more for wanting to keep it there and admire the fact that you decided

to honor your son, you, a man, who served his country, will not take it down until your son, who like you, served his couldn't interest i, will do the same. i just get that feeling. we will be checking. we have almost 100,000 people who are following our newscast. they will be tweeting and sending us all kinds of messages. you keep listening. by the way, when your son comes back, would you mind if we sent a video crew or a camera over there to get a picture of that moment when you give him that hug and that camera comes down? >> yes, please come and join the ceremony. >> louis, good bless you, man. thanks for being with us, sir. >> thank you for calling. >> down, put your hands behind your back. >> he is 6'1", 300 pounds and police say they could not stop him. even after tasing him several times. now, as you probably know, i got a little bit of experience with this tasing thing.

yeah, i'll show mine as well since he is showing his. the government lays out their case in federal court against seven men they say are terror suspects. we have some details about this. some of them have been coming in lately and they are stunning, were all over the story and then always remember, after this show, we go to cnn.com/live. it's 4:00 and we want you to join us today because we are going to be talking about the book. one of the best sellers, says "the new york times." it's called the family by jeff charlotte. we'll be right back.

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look at all the comments. i told you this was a great story. i loved this story when i first read about it. louis haros. an awesome story on the father flying the out tattered flag. i hope we can see his son take that one down and put up a new one. >> me too. >> twitter, finally, when rick sanchez does something worth writing about, you block me. don't tase me, man. >> look at this one, let that flag wave proudly. >> i love this one. look at this. beauty is in the eye of the

beholder. great flag story. ain't that the truth. >> we can go on and on and on. that was a cool segment. let me get into another segment. let me preface that next story with this. i have four kids, as you probably know. unlike people who don't have kids but are always judging people who do have kids. i hear it all the time i know for a fact that kids can from time to time be an absolute pain in the, you know. if you took a given ten-second clip of me or my wife at any given moment sometimes disciplining our kids, we might seem a little irrational. yeah. that said, what i'm about to show you is irrational and quite possibly beyond the pale when it comes to parenting. this is a woman in alabama, apparently fed up with her son's behavior while she was trying to shop. look what she does. she drags the kid out of the

store using a security device that most people would describe as, i guess, a leash. the leash was pulled so hard, it left marks on the boy's neck and the woman was arrested. for child cruelty. let's hope for the sake of the child, it was just a bad moment and not a normal pattern of parenting for her. up next, you will see the arrival of laura ling and euna lee at the airport with bill clinton while al gore and the families reunite at the tarmac. it is pretty amazing stuff. now, have you heard of "the family," a book about a shadowy secret of lawmakers in and around washington. the author, jeff charlotte, joins me. stay with us. i'll be right back. (male announcer) if you've had a heart attack

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a lot of quick comments coming in from twitter. let's turn things over to you. leashes are meant for dogs, not kids. leashes on kids are atrocious. on the story we are doing about the guy who was tased, it's, don't tase me, bro. another one on the flag. so many of these. >> with eyes filled with tears, i say, "fly, beautiful flag, fly." what a moment. what raw emotion. what pure release. there was some joy, some love. we sat in the office this morning, all of us, and we watched this as it happened, when it happened. american journalists, laura ling and euna ling, touching american soil for the first time in months and falling into the arms of their loved ones. since march, they have been in

north korea where they were arrested, tried, sentenced, thrown in jail. laura ling says the two women they knew were not forgotten. >> we could feel your love all the way in north korea. it is what kept is going in the darkest of hours. it is what sustained our faith that we could come home. the past 140 days have been the most difficult, heart wrenching time of our lives. we are very grateful that we were granted amnesty by the government of north korea and we are so happy to be home. we are just so anxious right now to be able to spend some quiet, private time getting reacquainted with our families. thank you so much. [ applause ]

>> by the way, when those two women stepped off that plane this morning, it was the end of a long diplomatic process. the details of which we may really never know. it's possible this deal was struck before bill clinton ever even landed there. how much did the president have to do with this? how about al gore? we saw him on the tarmac today. i want you to watch this report on the politics of this. the geopolitics, i guess i should say from tom foreman. >> reporter: officially, it was ul unofficial. when the former president and spouse of the current secretary of state comes call, the official understones are unmistakable. kim jong-il was smiling. >> as you know for the last year, kim jong-il has been plagued by health problems. there have been speculations that he is not going to survive

very long. >> so a visit like this makes him look strong? >> he looks healthy and happy in that picture. it puts to rest a lot of speculation internally and externally about his health and his command of authority in north korea. >> reporter: so how was the deal done? first, through sweden. the united states has no formal relations with north korea but sweden does. the swedish ambassador in pyongyang has been there since 2005. he saw the captives repeatedly, he keeping back door communications flowing there and at the united nations in new york. the state department worked tirelessly through those channels. the white house has not disclosed details. >> this obviously is a very sensitive topic. >> reporter: foreign affairs analysts believe the private talks drove public positions, the second key. for example, secretary clinton initially suggested the charges against the pair were baseless.

>> secretary clinton indicated this was somewhat of a sham trial and she disparaged the north korea's legal system. the north koreans were furious over that. >> reporter: then, suddenly, last month, a much more conciliatory tone. >> the two journalists and their families have expressed great remorse for this incident. i think everyone is very sorry that it happened. >> reporter: the third key. when the obama administration responded to north korea's latest missile test by pressing for sharper international sanctions, pritchard says kim jong-il needed to turn down the heat. the final key, bill clinton, himself. >> kim jong-il had wanted then president clinton to visit north korea back in 2000. it did not happen. analysts say he never gave up on the idea. in the end, that's what sealed

the deal. a visit from about the biggest unofficial official america could send. why are police unable to stop a man, no matter what they do? they are tasing him over and over and over again. watch some of this video. >> back, now. put your hands behind your back. >> what's amazing about this isn't the fact that he is tased but the fact that he has to be tased over and over and over again. who is right? who is wrong? are the police overdoing? did the guy deserve it? those are all questions that deserve to be asked and we will. remember the aftershow on cnn.com/live at 4:00. this is cnn, we'll be right back. a tornado hits, air life denver takes off... their night-vision goggles keeping the rescue mission safe...

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i want to show you that even though we are a huge country, we do a story that effects people in their own backyard. listen to this tweet. she sends it to me and says, that tragedy at that gym in pittsburgh was about 20 minutes from my house. this hits too close to home. that's interesting. she is right there watching the story on national television and it happened 20 minutes from her home. now, this story. this is a story i've been telling you about. a nashville tennessee police officer decides he has to arrest this man because he has been stealing according to his boss. he tries to arrest him. he won't cooperate. the guy is 6'1", 300 pounds. so things don't work out as well

as they usually do when someone takes out a taser. let's watch it. >> back, now. down, put your hands behind your back. >> i mean, that's amazing. keep watching. watch what he does. he gets up. now, he is taking the taser off. see the wire that's connected to the taser. remember, those are like little needles. they go through your skin and give you enough of a pulse. that's like 50,000 watts. i know. i've done it. i have been looking into these tasers now for several years. one of the reasons we did our original story is because many police departments feel like these things are effective and much safer than guns and they protect the person and the police officer. let me tell you, what this guy is doing is nothing short of amazing? three times they tasered him and three times he gets up. he is taking them off. maybe it is the loose clothing, the apron, the t-shirt

underneath. you want to see what really happens when someone gets about 3.5 seconds of this stuff. by the way, the guy's name here is rick sanchez. >> oh. >> e-no hero here. that is extremely painful. i have been working with police officers getting information as to why they want more police officers to replace gun ns certain circumstances with tasers. they say they are highly effective. to the point where in nashville, one official said before tasing that guy you saw right there, that in most cases, 83% of the cases, all they have to do is take the taser out and usually, the person will comply. just by showing them the taser, not even having to use it. that shows the dramatic difference it makes. yes, jon stewart, i know it is fun to watch that video of me getting tased.

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says, way to go, rick. way to go, for what? we have a late development to a significant story we started to follow for you yesterday. today, a federal judge in north carolina denied bail to terror suspects accused of plotting attacks overseas. his ruling was based on the strength of the evidence thus far. when these seven men were arrested, we all had a lot of questions about what they were really doing in north carolina, as did neighbors of the alleged ringleader who described muslim convert, daniel boyd, as a model citizen. i want you to hear what the government says about this, quote, model citizen. here is cnn's homeland security correspondent, jean ma serve. >> the men are charged with conspireing to wage jihad overseas. as they left jail for court tuesday morning, they seemed unconcerned, even smiling. in court, they sat shoulder to shoulder with daniel boyd, the alleged ringleader, in the center. an fbi agent testified that a search of the boyd home turned

up guns, including an assault weapon. more than 27,000 rounds of ammunition, including some that pierce armor. a possible lookout perch in the yard. a book the government describes as its playbook for responding to terror attacks and $13,000 in cash. and when authorities moved into arrest boyd, the fbi testified, boyd went for his gun, which he had a permit to carry. when a later law enforcement interview, boyd denied reaching for his side arm. in court, five see kredly recorded audio tapes were played. in them, a man identified by the fbi as daniel boyd, discusses financing and waging jihad. ala knows i love jihad, he says. dozens of family and friends gathered to hear the details of the government's case. >> what we are trying to do is to make sure there is due process. there will not be any conclusion

about guilt or innocence. >> reporter: boyd's wife has made her opinion clear. >> we do own guns in our home as our constitutional right allows us. i don't think there is a crime in that. as far as the other allegations, i find them false and i no he my husband and my sons are free of guilt. >> no bail for six of the seven men arrested for plotting those terror attacks overseas. the case of the seventh suspect is also still being considered. a seven-year-old boy driving a car on youtube. no you, his parents are facing charges or could face charges, we're told. that video is next. remember, we'll be going an extra 15 minutes if you just switch over to cnn.com/live and click my icon. we will continue the

conversation right there with the man who wrote "the family" tonight. stay with us.

i just want to thank somebody who just corrected me. he did. and it's murphy here right in the middle. you see that, johnny, or you see that, robert? says, "i kind of doubt that there's 50,000 watts. volts, amps, maybe." you're right. 50,000 volts of electricity is what you get when you are tasered by most of the weapons, the taser weapons, that are used by police officers these days. good catch. i appreciate it. i want you to watch this next piece of video and see how many safety violations you can count. the first one's easy. just look at who's behind the wheel.

roll it, roger. all right. let's see. could that be a 7 zblooerld yep. it's a 7-year-old. this is on a country road in canada. dad's behind the camera, car's going about 43 miles an hour. oh, mom, and two other seats, they're in the back seat, unbuckled. one is on her lap. at one point, she says you're getting too close to the ravine. too close to the ravine. wow. a parent actually put this on youtube. we thought you'd like to see this. up next there's a shadowy family that presides over washington's evangelical elite. i'm going to talk to the writer who's worked his way into this secret society. so much to say about this. so many questions to ask. that's jeff charlotte. he joins us next. some lunch.

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lewinsky. in fact, since the clinton affair, these prominent republicans are among those caught in similar trysts of the flesh. louisiana senator david mitter, idaho senator larry craig, the aforementioned john ensign, and now, as you know, governor mark sanford of south carolina. now, in fact, do you remember sanford's mea culpa, the one he made upon his return from argentina where he had his final fling with his secret lover? i want you to hear the part where sanford reveals his connection to this previously secret organization, a group that also involves some of those other men that we just mentioned. >> we've been working through this thing for about the last five months. i've been to a lot of different -- we call c street when i was in washington.

believe it or not, it's a christian bible study, some folks that asked members of congress hard questions that i think were very, very important. >> christian bible study. that's a good thing. right? my kids go to the christian bible study. however, what is the c street group really about? where's the bigger phenomenon here? members are described by my guest as the family who are in this organization. who are these men? joining me now is "the new york times" best-selling author whose book is sending shock waves all over the country. you've probably seen him. he's been getting a lot of ink and a lot of press lately. jeff charlotte not only writes about this family, he lived among them for a time, as well. mr. charlotte, thanks so much for being with us, sir. >> hi, rick. thanks for having me. >> you know, the first thing that i have to ask you about that i'm surprised at is some of these men, and obviously not all of them, but some of these men defend one man's sin, ensign's, for example, where they all

coalesced and tried to help him, but then not others' like bill clinton, for example. you know, i'm not quite -- isn't sin sin? how is one man's sin acceptable but other man's isn't? >> well, according to the family, it all depends on whether you're chosen. they have a very unusual religious belief. they believe that the politicians they're involved with are in some way sort of selected for their offices by god, not so much elected by the