a scientific poll, looks like people are not -- >> 1 million people out there saying they're not very happy. >> tom foreman. thank you. join us tomorrow night at 9:00 for the cnn "national report card." see you then. have a great night. "larry king live" starts right "larry king live" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: tonight, they're home. american journalists laura ling and euna lee are back in the u.s. they're harrowing five-month ordeal as prisoners in north korea over. >> the past 140 days have been the most difficult, heart-wrenching time of our lives. >> what did they endure? will they be okay? can they pick up with their lives? and then, tv power couple kelly ripa and mark conseulos.

they'll talk about oprah and their new baby. >> no request is left unanswered. >> larry: all next on "larry king live." good evening. it's been some turn of events for two women and their families who just days ago were in absolute despair. all changed when laura ling and euna lee returned this morning to the arms of their loved ones and a country waiting to embrace them. watch. >> hours ago, euna lee and i were prisoners in north korea. we feared that at any moment we could be sent to a hard labor camp. and then suddenly we were told that we were going to a meeting.

we were taken to a location and when we walked through the doors, we saw standing before us president bill clinton. >> larry: let's check in with dan simon, our cnn correspondent. he's in san francisco. i believe right outside where al gore's headquarters are for his television network. dan, what's the latest on the family reunion? >> reporter: yeah, hi, larry. as you said, this is where current is based here in san francisco. but the two young women, they are based in los angeles. we can tell you that they are home tonight after that very dramatic homecoming today. we're getting some early details about their treatment in north korea. most of these details coming from laura ling's sister, lisa. lisa ling telling reporters today that laura and euna for the most part were kept in isolation from one another. they really did not have the

opportunity to see each other. they did see each other during the trial which happened on june 2nd. they embraced each other then. but from then on out they didn't have a chance to be with each other. that must have been incredibly stressful. i'm sure a lot people have questions about the food. lisa ling saying that the food quality was poor. that laura really looking forward to good food and fresh fruit. other thing i want to tell you about, larry, that beautiful private plane that you saw that white unmarked 737 airplane that's owned by stephen bing, a hollywood heavyweight, big democratic donor. we're told that he donated the plane for this humanitarian mission. the price to north korea and back to the united states, $200,000. all picked up by stephen bing. dow chemical company also paying for some of the transportation costs. mr. clinton today seen leaving burbank on a plane, the gulfstream jet, owned by dow chemical and the company tonight

releasing a statement saying that they were happy to contribute to this mission, larry. back to you. >> larry: thanks very much, dan simon, as always, on the scene, this time in san francisco. let's welcome a panel, all of whom were held in captivity. in ottawa, ontario, scott taylor, a journalist. he was held in iraq in 2004. he was tortured, ready for execution on several occasions. his story is featured on the national geographic channel's "locked up abroad." in el paso, shoshanna johnson, former prisoner of war, held cappive in iraq for 22 days in 2003, the author of "i'm still standing-memoirs of a woman soldier held can'tive" comes out next february. and michael was imprisoned in bulgaria for 12 years, released in july of last year, held for three years in solitary confinement. he was convicted on embezzlement charges but says he was not guilty. all right, scott.

what is the worst thing about being held captive? >> well, for us, i mean it was the constant threat of death over the five days. myself and a turkish colleague were being held as accused spies by the ansar al islam insurgents while we were being held and threatened by death we came under attack by the american forces who attacked to retake the city. we were under american attack being held by ansar al islam and on six occasions it was for me that i was threatened to be killed either by beheading, tortured to death or shot outside. it was quite -- that part of it was the roller coaster of emotions and the death and destruction around us was the hardest part. >> shoshana, what can you imagine it was like for the lings? >> well, definitely the harrowing experience. you don't know what's going to happen from moment to moment. and for euna lee who had a little girl at home waiting for her, not knowing if you would

see your child again, get to see your child grow up, finish high school, college, get married, have children of her own is a lot to carry. >> larry: michael, your son was just 2 when you were imprisoned. what was it like trying to build a relationship with him so many years later? >> well, larry, i was blessed to have a wife and family that kept my memory alive with my son nick. and it made the reunion that we had last year that much easier. but the idea of not having been around him during all of those years of growing up was one of the greatest and most painful torments that i experienced during the three years of isolation and solitary that i'm sure lee and ling had experienced and then the years in maximum security before i was finally released. >> larry: scott, what does keep you going? >> certainly the thoughts of the family. that was the thing that would sometimes have to come forward

that i wasn't going to see them again and have to close off those doors. i think that was at one point the very end when my colleague had been released, i was left facing beheading by myself. i had expressed the pilot light of my soul went out. i really felt it was over. when i finally did start to realize i was getting out and going to survive, that re-ignited. then it wasn't really brought back to a full flame until i got home and saw my family again. it was something which, again, the feeling of being born again and seeing them was the icing on the cake when you finally got back and that reality became all too real. that was when the fear stopped when i got home. up until then i didn't quite believe i'd been released until i saw them and was back at my own home. >> larry: more with our guests. what emotions will ling and lee address in the coming months? we'll find out next.

you think it is doubly hard for a woman in captivity? >> yes, i do.

i feel that as a woman, you tend to let your emotions get the most of you and also, because of the situation whereas americans we're not used to seeing females being prisoners and things like that. so the reaction from the public is a lot to take in when you come home. and as a mother, it's hard reconnecting with your child. the person that left is not the same person that comes back. so it's an adjustment, not just for the people around you, but for especially children. they notice every little thing that's different. and they're not afraid to voice it and sometimes it's hard to hear. >> larry: michael, is it doubly worse when you know in your heart that you're not guilty, as you felt? >> yes, larry, it is. it's one of the most difficult things in the world to carry that weight of being paraded around in public, accused after crime that you know you didn't commit. and to see the burden that it

places on your family to hear the things that are being spoken ill of you. and the battle to reclaim your dignity and to try to maintain it as well is a whole process where you're being just defamed constantly in the mass media in a country that controls its press completely. >> shoshana, how did you learn you were free? >> that was an amazing experience -- i'm sorry. i interrupted. >> go ahead, scott. how did you learn you were free? >> i had just completed a game of what they called knife or life. i was told i would be beheaded. i was told to come back in for another round of questioning. each question i answered would determine if i would live to the next question which i believed the ultimate ending would be i would be beheaded. they said you're released. i thought they were taking me to a place that would make it cleaner to execute me.

then simply turned me loose on a highway with $3 and no identification in my pocket. i got in a taxi. i smelled the beer on the driver's breath, i knew he could not be another member of ansar al islam, another insurgent. he couldn't be another fundamental. that smell of beer was the smell of freedom for me which was the start of a road that relit the pilot light in my soul. is there sew sh shoshana, how did you know you were free? >> united states marine corps kicking down the door. you know? it's never easy to explain what it feels like when you hear clear english and you know you're going home. and eternally grateful. >> or seeing bill clinton at the door. >> definitely. a shock. a surprise. a welcome. and you know, unbelievable joy. >> michael, how did you learn? >> well, they called me up and

they said i was going to court. and to have my case reviewed. and they waltzed me in front of a judge. and the judge dropped the rest of the sentence and then they put me into -- after that they re-arrested me, larry, and put me into a refugee camp. i found out a week later from the canadian ambassador that i would be allowed to leave the country as soon as a bribe was paid. >> larry: scott, what's going to be the toughest thing for these two young ladies? >> well, i think they got to come to grips with the fact that they've been spared. i think that it is actually a blessing in some ways. i've gone through this myself and realized that the whole thing about you don't know what you've got until it's gone. i had to face it that everything i knew was going to be gone very, very quickly. now i look at things a lot differently than i did then. i think they'll probably come out of this the same way getting a whole new lease on life. it is something people rarely get and they should take full opportunity to enjoy that. >> larry: thank you all very much. we might be calling on you again

as this saga continues. scott taylor, shoshana johnson, michael, can lee and ling ever completely put the deal behind them? back in 60 seconds.

>> larry: jermaine jackson's going to be here on friday night with a mayor international announcement as well. we just posted a blog exclusive from him about continuing and making people aware of his brother michael's humanitarian work. read it only on cnn.com/larry king. laura ling and euna lee are employed by current tv. they were on assignment when they were detained. their boss co-founder of current, former vice president al gore, welcomed them home this way. watch. >> this has been an ordeal for them but i want you all to know, your families have been unbelievable.

unbelievable. passionate, involved, committed, innovative. you'll hear a lot of stories and they're looking forward to hearing a lot of stories from you. but euna, hannah's been a great girl while you were gone. and laura, your mom's been making your special soup for two days now. and to everybody who's played a part in this -- and again, a special thanks to the president bill clinton, my partner and friend. so grateful. >> larry: deepak chopra is here next. insights about the political and insights about the political and rs

>> larry: two distinguished guests, franklin graham in boone, north carolina, president of the relief organization samaritans purse. he visited north korea twice in 2000 and 2008. and our friend deepak chopra, medical director, spiritual teacher, best-selling author and a friend of the ling family. franklin, as someone who's been there twice, were you surprised that this happened? >> no, larry, i wasn't surprised. first i hope everyone who's watching that has said a prayer for these two young ladies will just thank god for answered prayer. of course we thank bill clinton,

the state department and president obama. everyone that had a part in getting these young ladies back home to their families. i'm not surprised, north korea wants to move on. the united states has to move on. we've got some very serious issues that are before us. of course those nuclear weapons, their nuclear program, the six-party talks in beijing have fallen apart. the north koreans have said they will not go back to the six-party format. we need to be talking directly i think to the north koreans. i hope that president obama will get ambassador bosworth there quickly. there may need to be someone like president bill clinton getting involved in this kind of negotiation because this is serious. we are still technically at war with this nation after almost 60 years. and it's just -- this thing has to get pushed off dead center. >> larry: deepak, you know them

through your son? >> i know them through my son. he was a colleague of both laura ling and laura ling. my daughter has a website where we were holding vigils and petitions and sending daily inspiration to laura's mother. but it's mainly through my children that i know the two journalists, the two sisters. i think what this is now is ushering in the new era of newation and a new era of diplomacy where there is no plij rens, no high-handedness, low-key intelligence, it's creative. i think president clinton ought to be congratulated. but behind the scenes president obama and our secretary of state i'm sure did the negotiations beforehand. so it's a wonderful thing to see, larry, that america will soon be respected and honored and loved instead of just being

feared. >> larry: laura ling's sister lisa also talked today. let's listen. >> the little bit that she was able to recount about her experience of the last 4 1/2 months has been challenging for us to hear. and through it all she has really maintained a sense of strength and the way she was able to communicate to us by the phone of what she thought they needed to have happen was so incredible. i mean my -- again, she's my little sister but she's a very, very strong girl, a very determined person and i'm just very, very proud to be her sister. >> franklin, do you agree that this may be a new era? >> absolutely. i sure do, larry. that's why i think the obama administration needs to take advantage of the goodwill that is there on the table right now with north korea and the united

states. we just need to capitalize on it. i would hope that this administration can do something about north korea that hasn't been able to -- we haven't been able to do anything for 60 years. this is a prime opportunity. the north koreans do want to talk. i think they do want to negotiate and i'm sure there is a price that they're looking for. but whatever it is, let me tell you, it's worth it to get rid of those nuclear weapons. if those weapons ever landed in the hands of a terrorist group, larry, and landed on one of our cities, it would be devastating. we wouldn't recover for generations. we've got to deal with this and do it quickly. >> larry: deepak, did the family ever give up hope? >> no, i don't think so. i didn't have that much contact with tlem. my children had, as i said. but hope was never given up. there was always hope that this would be resolved peacefully. i think what this administration did behind the scene is not

cause too much turbulence, not give attention to too much media. there are certain principles, larry, in conflict resolution, do you treat your enemy with respect, you recognize that there is a perception of injustice on both sides, you are ready to forgive and you ask for forgiveness, you refrain from belligerence, you use emotional intelligence, you recognize the other person's values, you do not bring discussions about ideology, you don't try to prove the other person wrong. and i think every single one of those principles were followed. we're living in a new age. this is how we should deal with iran. we are living in a new age where twitter and facebook and myspace are in a sense globalizing us. and citizens are having conversations with each other. and so this is a wonderful time and this is an opening for us to see how we can use these very intelligent, creative principles

to actually disarm our enemies, not through weapons, but through friendship. >> larry: president obama was very thankful to bill clinton today. let's listen to what he said. >> the reunion that we've all seen on television i think is a source of happiness not only for the families but for the entire country. i want to thank president bill clinton. i had a chance to talk to him for the extraordinary humanitarian effort that resulted in the release of the twour guests about bill clinton right after about bill clinton right after this.

>> larry: franklin graham, politics aside, what do you make of this man bill clinton? >> larry, what he did was a very wonderful thing. i'm so proud of our country and thank god for this nation. the fact that the president, former president, would go to north korea to help free these two young lady, i just thank god for him. we've been praying for a long time that god would somehow maybe send an angel to these girls. i shouldn't call them girls. these young ladies. i'm sure when they opened up that door and they saw president clinton, former president clinton, standing there, i'm sure they -- he looked maybe like an angel to them. i'm sure the president's not an angel but he sure looked like one. i thank god for what he did. and i hope that we can move this nation forward now in some kind

of credible negotiations with the north. that's so important, larry. this is the most dangerous area of the world. i've been there several times. we have people that are in that country every few weeks. we are doing various relief projects. it is a dangerous part of the world and we have to pay attention to this. >> larry: deepak, one can only imagine what it was like when that door opened and they see bill clinton. >> you know, bill clinton, president bill clinton is one of the most popular people in the world. i remember when he went to india. he became such a national hero in india that indians forgot about their own leaders at that time. when he went to ireland, the same thing. he's a very charming person. he is a very likable person. you see his body language. he disarms you. so he was just the right person for our country to use to free these young ladies. >> larry: couple of other notes. franklin, how's your dad? how's billy graham?

>> well, thank you for asking, larry. he's doing quite well. he'll be 91 this year of course but his mind is still clear, sharp. he remembers everything and he loves you and he's watching tonight. >> larry: your mother passed when? >> two years ago this past june. my father misses her so very much. she was his soulmate. they were partners in life together. they really had a real love story. he was i think more in love with her the last few years of their marriage than they were when they first were married. a great lover to. she was an incredible lady. a lot of fun. >> larry: she was. deepak, what part in all of this do you think faith played? >> i think faith always plays a great part. it sustains you, it in your turs you, it makes you feel hopeful. faith is always a very important player in every crisis. and if you stay there, then

somehow the mysterious forces of the universe, mystery of god always shows up. >> larry: you believe in answered prayers, don't you? >> i do, larry. as a christian, i know my mother and father prayed for many for many years. i was 22 years old when i gave my life to jesus christ and it changed my life and i see what prayer has done for me. i'm just a sinner that's been saved by god's grace and jesus christ died for my sins on a cross and he was raised to life. larry, if anyone confesses their sins and asks christ into their heart, god will forgive them. our sins can be forgiven by almighty god. christ died for me. i don't serve a god where i have to die for him. he died for me, larry. it is so wonderful to that have kind of savior. >> larry: and you, deepak, we only have 30 seconds, understand that faith a great deal. you wrote a book about it. >> i respect those views but i don't necessarily agree with them. i think jesus christ was a

perfect role model for all of us and we have a lot to learn from him. but it's not necessary that we have to be christians to believe in the mystery that we call god. >> larry: i thank both of you. you're incredible citizens of the planet. frankl franklin, our best regards to your father. franklin graham is president of the relief organization samaritans. of course dee pock chop pack ch. thank you. jermaine jackson will be here friday night. read his blog exclusive at cnn.com/larry kick. kelly ripa, mark consuelos are here next talking about oprah, howard stern, regis and weddings. 2

>> larry: we now welcome to "larry king live" two of my favorite people, kelly ripa and mark consuelos, mr. and mrs. consuelos. she is co-host of "live with regis and kelly." as an actress, he's an actor sometimes fills in for rebusiness. they're married of course. they've partners as well with tlc to produce a new show called "masters of reception" which will premier on tuesday, august 18th. we'll talk a lot about it later. basically what is it, kelly? >> it is a great show that sorts of originated when my husband

stumbled into the wrong wedding while we were attending a friend's wedding. >> we were at a beautiful wedding in new jersey and i went to the restroom. when i came back i sat down at the reception and i was having dinner. i noticed everybody was strangers at my table. it took me about 15 minutes -- >> larry, he had dinner at another person's wedding. >> anyway, it got us thinking i couldn't believe this facility had sometimes two, three weddings going on at the same time. coming from two people who actually eloped who could never put on a wedding, we were fascinated by somebody that does this. we did a little research and we found the fringilos from new jersey, a family-run business just like our business is. and they're really fantastic. >> larry: it will be on every week? is it a weekly show? >> yes, it is. it is. >> larry: we'll see wedding receptions? >> you'll see mega wedding receptions. you'll see a variety of

different -- i think the magic with these two brothers is that no request is left unanswered. if the bride and groom request it, the frangilo brothers find a way to provide it. >> larry: we'll have them on later with you. how do you explain the success of your marriage? 13th anniversary, both in the business. >> wow! >> larry: mark, how do you explain it? >> i believe that my wife is extremely patient and extremely tolerant. i think that's the key to our success. >> you know, larry, we also had really good examples. my parents have been married for almost 50 years. >> and my parents just about the same time. >> almost the same. and you know, we don't really let ego get involved if our relationship at all. we just -- and i'm deeply in love with him. i mean he is gorgeous. >> larry: you guys met in 1995. they were co-stars on all my

children. let's take a look."all my children. let's take a loo" let's take a look. >> this is perfect. i love it. i love you. >> i love you. i can't wait to tell everybody. >> can you hold off on that just a little while? i think it is a little too soon to start celebrating in light of what's happened to my uncle trevor and everything. >> sure. sure. i understand. it can be our little secret. >> if i can just keep the smile off my face. >> maybe i can help you keep that smile off your face. >> larry: that was either great acting, kelly, or you were falling in love there. were you falling in love there, mark? >> well, back in '95, yeah, i

guess we were well on our way. we were just about married then. >> larry, if you want to hear a really strange story, the day he screen tested, i met him the day before he screen tested. he came in to pick up a script. they introduced me to him and said this is one of the guys that will be screen testing. i went home that night and had a busy dar dream that involved him. i didn't even know his name. but i dreamt that we were on a plane to rome with our baby daughter. and so the next day at the screen test i said, i had a funny dream that we were married and we had a baby and we were on our way to rome. and he was terrified. >> i went right to the authorities and got a restraining order. >> larry: we'll be right back with more of this delightful pair. could you work with your spouses? that's tonight's quick vote question. go to cnn.com/larry king and tell us. back with kelly and mark in 60 seconds.

>> larry: we're back with kelly ripa and mark consuelos, co-host

and partner with tlc to produce "masters of reception." it will debut on tuesday, august 18th. it must be great for kelly to get a break from regis. who wouldn't get a break. we'll take a look at mark sitting in for regis. watch. >> we run over to the emergency room. literally i'm getting sick, you've gotten really sick to be laying on the floor of an emergency room in new york city. >> right, that's true. >> it is pretty crazy. i'm on the ground, this lady comes by like -- because we were on "all my children." she comes up, would this be a bad time to get an autograph? >> larry: you tell me if regis ever hangs it up, could you work as "mark and kelly"? >> you know, larry, it is really funny. i always picture myself hanging it up way before regis. honestly. he is that show. he is the light of that show. and he carries that show.

that is his baby. and i mean i never even think about that show without him. honestly. >> larry: david letterman keeps calling you regis lee and kelly lee. as a throw back to kathie lee. are you a friend of her? >> i am a big fans of hers. i was a watcher. their chemistry. i absolutely adore her. >> we used to watch the show -- >> we did. >> in the hair and makeup room of "all my children." >> we'd get our makeup done and watch "regis and kathie lee." i said when she leaves, i feel sorry for whoever. there is just no way it would work. i had no idea it would be the person they would choose and select. i've been enormously blessed by that job. >> larry: they're not only married, mark also officiates at other weddings. he officiated at howard stern's

wedding. we'll talk about that after the we'll talk about that after the break.

i'm erica hill in tonight for anderson cooper. ahead, an emotional reunion for journalists laura ling and euna lee. greeted by their families this morning in california, we'll let you see the moment in full for yourself. plus, we take you inside the mind of a killer. chilling new details from the diary of a man who killed three women at a fitness center south of pittsburgh last night before killing himself. and a drug war raging in mexico becoming even more violent, even more ruthless. mostly because of one group. michael ware reports tonight from mexico city. we'll have those stories and much more ahead tonight on

"360." right now we return you to "larry king live." >> larry: they've got a show coming august 18th about weddings. mark has ofish yaft fisatfficia. you married howard stern and his wife. how did that come about? >> we are very close friends and they at dinner one night asked me to -- if i would perform the ceremony. i thought they were joking. it was about six months away from it happening. and they just kept saying, no, we're actually serious. i went online and about $14.5 later i became a minister. larry, i could have you hooked up in about 25 seconds. >> larry: i'd be a rabbi. >> you know what? actually, that's more of a religious thing, i think. >> i was very excited about it. because in the packet they send you, you get a parking pass. it says "clergy."

so i can -- >> for no other reason, the clergy pass is worth it. >> but the ceremony was great. >> larry: was the wedding somewhat like stern's show, a little raucous or was it dign y dignified? >> it was extremely elegant and beautiful and michael wanted to make it very short and sweet and to the point. it was just a really wonderful, beautiful party. >> you know what it is, larry? these are two people who are deeply, deeply in love with each other. and they're just great, warm, loving, gracious people. and all of their friends are just like them. and so it was nice to be in a room filled with people who genuinely loved each other, appreciated each other, and i just -- i don't mean just the two of them, i mean all of their friends and family members. it was a lovely wedding. >> it was a great night. >> yeah, a greet night. >> larry: you go to chicago every week, mark, to work with oprah? >> i did, yes. i flew last year -- better part

of the year i was flying back and forth. >> larry: was that fun? >> you know what? i had a great time. i had a great time on the show. and i really love doing live tv. i think my favorite live show is probably the one at 9:00 on -- that shoots wabc. >> larry: kelly, in addition to "masters of reception" are you going to do other shows together? >> yes. we're working on another show for tlc where we discover female inventors who have these great sort of ideas. larry, i'm sure you're the same way, when you have a show like we have, people have these great ideas. they don't know what to do with them with their products. i found that i kept getting sent thousands of products a week, like diaper warmers, and blanket holders and all of this stuff. >> we thought wouldn't it be great if we could actually get a group of people that could go down to tee po topeka, kansas a

that person tweak their product. we've teamed up with hsn and we'll take them to hsn and see if they actually cut it. if they can sell their products nationally. >> sell the products to the 90 million viewers that hsn has. >> larry: great idea. do you like producing as much as being on? >> i think we like it because, you know, we -- we work with a lot of people that we love. and i think that, you know, you've been in this business a long time. when you get to work with eem that you really love -- >> it's all about working with people that you live. >> our team is a really great team. we're making shows that we're passionate about. we're creating a business that our children can all work in because they're all going to need a job, soon. >> right. >> larry: kelly, what are you doing to raise money to fight ovarian cancer? how is that going? >> people's generosity staggers me every day.

we just had our super saturday event which raised, in one day, $3.6 million, which all goes to ovarian cancer research fund. and you can really, that's donna karyn's baby. i swoop in as the host and i'm honored to do it. but donna karen works tirelessly year-round. >> larry: are we making any progress? when i hear the term, i think death. >> you know, larry, i've got to tell you something that -- i was explaining this to mark. the first year i hosted that event six years ago, i didn't meet a single survivor, not one survivor. at this event now the survivors are the volunteers. i mean, there are so many now because obviously we are getting close. and the more research that is funded, the better educated people are. >> larry: all right. kelly, mark, you stay with us. we're going to meet the brothers who have created this business. and when we come back, a sneak peek at maybe mark's new baby

premier in a couple of weeks, too. that's the show we're talking about. don't go away.

it's in our blood. >> it's awesome! >> we plan, we plan. things always happen. >> at 1:00 at night, i can't get a crew here. >> walk down the aisle. >> huh? >> i have to be honest. this is ridiculous. >> i will make it come true. >> larry: on tuesday, august 18th, a new show is going to

premier on tlc, coproduced by kelly ripa and it's called "masters of reception" and they're referring to our next two guests, robert and jerry frungillo. it's a family-run business. robert, did you inherit this from your dad? >> actually, larry, we did. mom and dad started this business 35 years ago. and started from a small store in verona, new jersey, 20 by 30, we kind of took it to a different level. it would be no frungillos, larry, without mom and dad. >> larry: how did you, jerry, how did you and kelly and mark get together? how did this come about? >> you know, i'm not really sure how it came about. one day i was walking through our kitchen and a few people came by. one of the people said, hi, i'm mark consuelos, i said, no, you're the gooch, referring to "hope and faith." we felt confident with mark and his crew. we're happy we're here.

we're very fortunate. >> larry: how does it work? we see a we'd thdding that you indicator? >> each episode will be two different weddings that we cater. each has a story, its passion, its setbacks. we're there all the time. we make sure we're holding hands, pushing people along, making them comfortable and to make their big day come true. >> larry: are you and mark on the show? >> no, we're definitely behind the camera here. not in front of it. >> i keep trying to talk mark into renewing our vows because everything always looks so nice. >> that will be on very special episode of "masters of reception." >> larry: robert, the secret of a successful wedding is? >> i think the secret is absolutely control the pulse of the wedding from the second the bride and groom show up. i think everyone has to understand, and larry, you know a little bit about weddings. i think you really -- >> larry: take that out.

go ahead. >> i think you're a master yourself. i think the most important thing for people and brides and grooms to understand is they really need to enjoy the day. it goes fast and quick. weddings are five hours. memories, a lifetime. >> larry: jerry, how important, i mean, this seriously, is the food? >> the food is really important. in fact, we would always talk about years ago we were just off premise caterers, i wouldn't say just off, but we would bring things to people's homes, museums, halls. everything in the world you can imagine goes wrong. we always said the food always saves us. the food is really important. especially with our culture, our background. we have recipes our grandparents were cooking that we're still serving today. >> larry: with today's economy, robert, can i make a wedding on the cheap? >> yes, you can. you know, i think it's all about your expectation and your budget. and you really have to get down to where you need to be on that line.

if you're flexible on the date and you're flexible with menu ideas, absolutely, you can do that. >> larry: mark, to the viewer at home, what will be the magic of this show? what will draw them to it? >> you know what it is, i think what really enchanted us with this show was that it's a family-run business. and when they talk about their business and how they treat their employees, they always refer back to their parents. and we have shots and we have home footage of the frungillos, you know, growing up in that business. and also we plug in two fantastic weddings that are very different and with great brides and great grooms, and, listen, everything -- anything that can go right goes right and some things go wrong that they have to make right at the same time. >> it's these two very different, very touching stories, these brides and grooms, but how they relate to the brothers, jerry and robert, really are their touchstones. they are their anchors through this whole sort of -- it can be a very daunting, very traumatic

process. and these men are there for these couples every step of the way. >> truly is a love letter to their parents and to the state of new jersey, by the way. >> larry: jerry, i think -- i really think, mark and kelly, you've hit on a great idea here. if it plays out the way you've described it, it should be terrific. jerry, how do you do -- can you do ten weddings a weekend? >> we certainly can. i mean, goes back, we can do ten. >> how? >> we run four different locations. we do off-premise weddings. if you think about it, larry, you can actually in one room do a number of weddings in the same day or in the same weekend, you have a friday night, saturday night, sunday night. >> larry: well, you get a lot of joy doing what you do because you're unhappy people. >> yeah, right. you know, we love what we do. it's a lot of commitment. it's a lot the family takes on with it. we're not in this alone. we have families, our wives, our children suffer along with us, enjoy it along with us. >> larry: great idea.