>> we'll be back many times over the next months and years, campbell. november 3rd, there's going to be an election. we'll be back with another national report card then. thanks very much for joining us. we'll have more tomorrow on "american morning" and "the situation room." let's go to a special "360" right now. erica hill filling in. erica? breaking news on two fronts, including the apparent killing of one of america's top enemies in afghanistan and pakistan. first, it is a "360" exclusive. in her first interview since her sister's return, lisa ling tonight joining us on "360" to talk about what's happened since her sister laura and her colleague, euna lee, came home from north korea. how they're re-adjusting and how euna's 4-year-old daughter hana is doing now that mommy is finally home. former president bill children securing their release. he spoke publicly about that

trip for the first time today. but frankly, said very little. >> i wanted those young women to be able to come home. and i wanted our two countries to have the ability to decide where to go from here. it would be wrong for me to say any more. the young women can speak for themselves about their experiences. the pictures were worth a million words yesterday. i'm glad i could be of some help. >> pictures which seemed to capture the heart of a nation. since then, both families have been out of the public eye. tonight, though, lisa ling has been kind enough to give us a window into the moments since that plane touched down and some of the moments leading up to it. she joins us, exclusively live by phone. thank you so much for talking with us tonight. >> thanks, erica. >> the first question, not only for us here at cnn but also for people across the country, how is your sister, laura, doing

tonight? >> well, we are all just elated beyond words. my sister is so, so happy to be home. she's still quite weak and exhausted and incredibly emotional. you know, she's been in relative isolation for months and months and, you know, she doesn't even like to be alone. yesterday she was so exhausted and she wanted to take a quick nap. she kept asking me, are you going to be here when i come back? are you going to be here when i come back? today we took her to the doctor's office and i wasn't planning on going to the doctor with her. my mom was going to take her. will you please come with me? she hasn't wanted to be alone. i hear from euna's husband, michael, that hana, their 4-year-old daughter has not wanted her mother to leave her sight. she just keeps following her around from room to room because

she doesn't want her mom to leave anywhere, leave her. >> i think that's probably understandable for most people, especially for parents watching this right now. has it sunk in for you, yet, lisa, that your sister is finally home after nearly five months fighting to get her here? >> i have to say, erica, when i woke up this morning, i had this sense of calm and happiness that i have not felt in months, because every time i have woken up, every single day for the last 140 days, i just like kind of dreaded the day because i knew that my sister wasn't here. and i just -- when i would wake up, i'd think about what she was doing or wasn't doing, what she couldn't do. it really was just devastating. so this morning, like i just woke up and i said i'm going to go see her. it was like 7:00 in the morning and i didn't want to call the house in case she was sleeping an her husband texted -- sent me a tex message saying we're awake.

and i was probably there within 15 or 20 minutes. i was waiting by the phone to call me to tell me they were up. >> i imagine it was still very tough to sleep last night. you mentioned her days, she was basically in isolation for 3 1/2 months it sounds like. how did she occupy herself during that time? what did she do to keep her spirits up and remain positive? >> it's interesting. i think because when you're in such isolation, you do what you have to do. you know, she read a lot. we were able to send her books. and she -- for exercise, she said she walked around her room like, you know, for sometimes hours in a day. and, you know, bathing was a little bit difficult because they didn't have hot water and, you know, the water was sporadic. she would fill up buckets. say, okay, on saturday i'm going to wash my hair.

and, you know, little things like that. you just have to sort of plan and adapt to a new version of normalcy. >> i know you mentioned yesterday there were rocks in her rice. was she fed on a regular basis? what kind of food was she given and did she think the rocks were intentional or did they end up in the bowl? >> i think because the north korea has economic challenges. she was fed three times a day and she was just given a simple, small meal. the portions were quite small. there was rice and, you know, a little vegetable and maybe a little piece of fried fish to which she sort of developed a reaction afterwards. so she said that they treated her humanely. but, yeah, the rocks were -- she said were not intentional. >> did she ever feel -- fear for her safety or feel threatened?

>> you know, we haven't really talked too much about, you know, what happened the day of and, you know, in terms of the specifics. because i think it's really emotional for her. i know that there was a period in the beginning where she did suffer from some physical -- she had a physical situation. and she did get sick once and we had no idea because there was no communication. but overall, you know, she kept stressing. they treated me humanely. the thing that was really moving to me was despite what she was going through, i into you this would happen, because i have to tell you, my sister is just such a remarkable person that, i think she won a lot of her captors over. i really -- she had lovely things to say about the people who were, you know, who were watching over her. she had two guards in her room

at all times, morning and night. even though they couldn't speak to each other, somehow they developed kind of a strange sort of kinship. >> interesting to hear that. there's been a lot of speculation, a lot of questions frankly, about how she and euna were actually captured in the first place. did she know they had crossed into north korean territory? have you been able to talk to her about that? >> we've talked about it briefly. she wants to divulge exactly what happened. i think she'll write an editorial addressing it. i want to let her do it. she did say they touched north korean territory very, very briefly. and then beyond that, i want to let her tell the story. >> there is, of course, i'm sure you felt this collective sigh of

relief, these tears of joy obviously from your family, euna's family. the teen country was so wrapped up in this. there was criticism as well. as to how their release came about. fare fareed zakaria spoke to hillary clinton about that. >> john bolton -- >> no, you shouldn't. >> why is he wrong? they effectively took hostages. >> we've done this so many times before. we've had former presidents do it. we've had sitting members of congress do it. it is something that, you know, it is absolutely not rewarding them. it is not in any way responding to specific demands. it is a recognition that certain countries that i think are kind of beyond the pale the rule of law hold people and subject them

to long prison terms that are absolutely unfair and unwarranted. and maybe it's, you no he, the fact i have a daughter but i believed that if we could bring these young women home, we should bring them home. >> were you concerned at all that this private message may be second the wrong message? >> i've heard this. you know, i heard john bolton make his statement. and the fact of the matter is that bill clinton went to north korea on a humanitarian mission, to bring back euna and laura. he was on the ground less than 24 hours. 20 hours, i believe, was the duration of his stay. that was really it. and it was communicated to me, through my sister, who communicated on the things she had been told, that bill clinton

was the person that they needed to come and get them if they were going to be released. and frankly, bill clinton was gracious enough to agree to do it. and we are so, so grateful. if he didn't do it, i know that the girls wouldn't be here right now. >> lisa, again, we can't thank you enough for talking with us stick with us for a couple of minutes while we take a short break. we'd love to hear more about how your sister is doing today. we'd love to hear what you think about laura, euna and also everything that lisa's been able to tell us tonight. logon to ac360.com and join the live blog. we'll be getting to the other breaking story as well. the story we're following out of pakistan, the shadowy top taliban leader in pakistan, a major threat to the american forces over the border in afghanistan. also a major friend of al qaeda.

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welcome back to "360." our exclusive interview continues with lisa ling. before the break she told us her sister, laura and euna lee did briefly touch north korean soil before their arrest. lisa is back with us now in an exclusive interview tonight. that's really, i think, unless i'm wrong here, it's the first time we've heard that or it sounds like they've come forward or had the chance to say that. talk to me more, if you could, about what laura told you about those moments? >> that's really it. it was something that, you know, they were never planning to do originally. i mean, i said this before, when they left u.s. soil they never intended to cross into north

korea. and, you know, they -- i mean she said it was maybe 30 seconds. and then, you know, everything just sort of got chaotic. again, it's a very powerful story. and she does want to share it. but i just really want to let her do that. >> right. which is understandable. i have to ask you, what was going through your mind as you saw your sister walk down the steps of that plane yesterday morning? >> you know, i think it was the most glorious sight that i have ever seen. i mean, before yesterday, it had been weeks since i heard her voice and the swedish ambassador, who was their only non-north korean life line between the girls and us, hadn't seen them for over a month. and also whenever she would call, even though she said she was okay, we didn't know. the calls were being monitored

and so on. so we really had no idea of how they were or where they were. so just seeing them walk down the stairs, being able to walk, frankly, was just a sight that i cannot even describe in words. it was just so beautiful. and it was truly the happiest day of my life. >> i think that's understandable. you mentioned a little bit earlier, you talked about hana who has captured everyone's heart. we've showed a number of times, the picture she drew one time with anderson, spoke with you and her father, michael and how her mother was no longer in that picture. you said she hasn't let go of her mom since. has she talked about her mom at all since she got home? do you think she understood mommy was coming home? >> i think she did think that mommy was coming home and, you know, she was able to talk to

euna one time when euna called. and euna was really smart. she called michael and said let me call you right back and leave a phone message on the voicemail. on it she said that mommy was going to be back soon and she loved her so that they could play it for hana all the time. i actually think that of all of us, little hana had the most confidence that she would be seeing her mom soon. she just maintained such an incredible spirit. and the day of -- when we were watching on television, on cnn, the plane arriving in burbank, hana was exuberant saying mommy's on that plane. she was just so excited. you saw her skipping up to the plane. it was just -- that was something that just completely, completely, you no he, brought tears to all of our eyes. because it's just been a long time coming. >> it has. an a long fight to get there. what's the first thing your

sister asked for yesterday? what did she want to do? >> all she really wanted to do was go home and be with her family. there wasn't -- again, she's been without us and in relative isolation and she just wanted to sit in a room with all of us. i mean, we were just -- it was really an emotional sort of fiasco. we all just couldn't stop crying. we had to just keep pinching ourselves. we were almost in disbelief that this day had finally arrived. >> i know you still have a lot of catching up to do. lisa, we can't thank you enough for taking the time to be with us tonight. thank your sister as well for letting you share some of those details. we wish you the best as you continue to get re-acquainted and enjoy your time together. >> thanks a lot. straight ahead, pakistan's most wanted man and one of america's toughest adversaries, possibly killed, wee we're

learning, by a u.s. drone. what could this mean for the world of terror and pakistan? america has been grading president obama right here on cnn. tom foreman will join us with the trends behind those grades and also what they could mean for the president's agenda heading forward. )d)d)d)d)d)d)d)d

more breaking news tonight about a man rarely seen on

camera. and never very clearly. frequently with his back turned. tonight, though, there's word from american officials the top taliban leader in pakistan just might have been caught in the gun sights of a u.s. drone. targeted and killed. taliban commander massoud, is he really gone and if so, what's next? joining us now, cnn's michael ware and peter bergen. >> he's the leader of a major coalition of taliban groups and al qaeda supporters. so if he is dead, how big of a blow is this to their goals and in fact their holding there? >> reporter: it's quite a big deal. he's the alleged master mind of the assassination of benazir bhutto, the leader of pakistan's major political party in 2007. the u.n. has identified him as a principle source of suicide attackers in pakistan. he's also a principle source of suicide attackers going over the

border in afghanistan, killing nato, u.s. and afghan forces there. certainly taking him out of picture is important. we have seen him before, the leader of al qaeda in iraq. taking out one person doesn't end things. this is an important symbolic victory if indeed it is true. >> the immediate thought would go to afghanistan, pakistan's neighbor. there are a number of u.s. troops fighting the war there. he was known to be an ally of mullah omar and the taliban. what's the impact of his death on the u.s. war on the taliban in afghanistan? >> that's a good question, erica. i'd say two things. as mark twain said, reports of my death are exaggerated. we heard massoud has been killed before only to see him resurface. we've seen this with many al qaeda leaders in the past. so we do need to keep in check any sense of optimism over this strike.

monitoring jihadi and american websites at the moment, still have conflicting reports. in terms of the american war in afghanistan, the death if it's true of massoud, i'm afraid the report will only have a limited impact. baitullah mehsud. it's being fought by afghan taliban. you have al qaeda trying to direct efforts in one direction on several fronts. but mehsud is primarily responsible for the pakistani conflict there. in terms of american boots on the ground, american deaths and casualties and british deaths and casualties, this may still have unlimbed impact. erica? >> peter, is there any concern, even though it may have a limited impact in afghanistan that the death could embolden

his supporters in pakistan and maybe that could spill over? >> reporter: well, i mean there may be reprisal killings. i'm going to disagree with michael slightly. most of the suicide attackers go into afghanistan, according to the united nations, come from the tribal areas where mehsud is. i've interviewed a number of them. and overwhelmingly, they come from the tribal areas of pakistan where mehsud is based. they strongly are trying to kill mehsud or his network. president obama has authorized 28 drone strikes since he took office. that's more than president bush had done at this point last year. and about 13 of them, at least half of them have been directed at mehsud's network. even if he himself had not been killed, these drone strikes have put a great deal of pressure on his network and his family.

>> it's a network where he said in an interview with al jazeera, the main aim is to finish britain, the u.s. and crush the pride of nonmuslims. there is plenty of hatred for the u.s., the uk and the west. what's the significance if in fact he was killed by a u.s. drone, peter? >> well, in many ways -- >> president obama has amped up his program. >> go ahead, peter and michael i'll let you weigh in after. >> reporter: sure. president obama has ramped up this program. president bush started ramping it up around july of 2008 and president obama has really taken this program and authorized more strikes. than under his predecessor. >> michael, the last word here. >> reporter: and what i was going to say, obviously, pakistan's alliance with america in terms of fighting the taliban is a hot button issue,

domestically in pakistan. america is not popular, generally with the pakistanis. so the government and islamabad has tried to maintain a distance from washington. even while it collaborates with these air strikes. but from washington, if indeed this has been a success, then america should herald this. it shouldn't shy away from celebrating this as a tactical and perhaps a strategic victory. erica? >> we'll continue to follow the developments. michael ware, peter bergen, good to have you with us tonight. thank you. there's much more to get to tonight. gary tuchman standing by with the headlines and the "360 bulletin." the husband defended his wife at a news conference and denied she had a drinking problem. >> she was a perfect wife, outstanding mother, hard worker. reliable person, trustworthy. i would marry her again

tomorrow. she's awesome. she's the best. i go to night every night knowing my head is clear, she is not a alcoholic. my heart is rested every night when i go to bed. something medically had to have happened. >> dianne schuller crashed her mini van into an suv after driving nearly two miles the wrong way on a highway. she was killed along with her daughter, three nieces and three other adults. toxicology reports released said schuller had more than twice the legal limit of alcohol in her blood. judge sonia sotomayor will be sworn in saturday as supreme court justice sotomayor. nine republicans gave their support. the 55-year-old federal appeals court judge will be the first hispanic and third woman to sit on the high court. aerosmith singer steven tyler is being treated for head, neck and shoulder injuries after falling off a stage during a concert in south dakota. at first they thought the fall was part of his act. the 61-year-old rocker was air

lifted to a hospital. it's unclear how seriously he was hurt. and twitter has dusted itself off after an attack by hackers shut it down for two hours today. facebook was hit by a less severe attack. unable to tweet? what did twitter devotees do with the down time? that's something to tweet about tonight. erica hill is already tweeting about it. >> i'm blogging about it. i'm not so good with the tweets. i need to get better. gary, thanks. still ahead on the eve of president obama's 200th day in office, how is he doing? we'll break it all out for you. plus, undecided voters? remember them? we met plenty of them. we went back and checked into one-time undecided voters to find out who they did vote for last november and get their take on how the president is doing now. also ahead, 40 years later, the manson murders remain one of the infamous and horrifying crimes the nation has seen. new perspective on why this

killing spree and its mastermind still has such a grip on the american psyche.

tomorrow marks president obama's 200th day in office. pretty good time to take measure of what he's done so far and how he's doing as president and who better to ask than you? we did. we asked you to weigh in. our online polling has ended. which means it's time to bring in tom foreman who has the numbers and the "raw politics"

behind the grades. >> it's a good time to do the polling. this is cnn research opinion polls. this is tine tifk. president barack obama overall grade "c" plus. his foreign policy during the second 100 did is, "c" plus. health care handling during the second 100 days, a "c" minus. that's the scientific approach to all of this. we can break it down state by state with our unscientific poll where people could register their own opinions about this. this is "c" minus. that's what the green means. 100 days ago, look, it was all in the "b" range. a huge change there. i want you to take note of one thing. i'll circle part of the country right here and look at this part of the country. i'll tell you in a moment why that's important. one of the signature issues throughout this entire time has been health care. here we have every single day of the second 100 days of the obama administration. i want you to listen to what he

said just about 3 1/2 weeks ago when he was still insisting we'd get health care done and get it done on time. listen to this. >> i want to put everybody on notice. there was a lot of chatter during the week i was gone. we are going to get this done. inaction is not an option. for those naysayers and cynics who think that this is not going to happen, don't bet against this. >> the problem is, a lot of voters out there are betting against him. look at that big area i mentioned. health care, that's where he's getting absolutely pounded. you know what matters about this part of the country, this is the older part of the country. people here are generally older than they are elsewhere. these people are invested in the question of what happens to their health care. want proof of it? look back when the question was swine flu. some of the most enthusiastic support for what he's doing about swine flu is, again, among people who are a little bit

older. they're concerned about such things. some of the other numbers worth noting, on the issue of foreign affairs with, more than 2 million people gave a "c" also. 100 days ago, that was bs with some even higher grades up in here, as in that area, brighter colors. interestingly enough, foreign affairs, hillary clinton, the person in charge of all it, the brightest point in entire survey for everyone out there for this administration. she had more bs in here than anybody else, looking pretty good. even getting arizona down here, john mccain's home state. she had a b minus in there. joe biden is not doing particularly well, getting even a "c" in delaware. the senators from your own state. congress not doing well. republican leadership in congress not doing well. all failing grades. the media not doing well and at the end down here, barack obama overall, a "c" minus and look at the change here.

100 days ago, he had a solid "b" with better scores now. it's all in the "c" range. the only one doing better than that is right over here, the district of columbia with a "b" minus and erica, they can't vote. >> too bad for them. that doesn't work out so well. tom foreman, appreciate it, as always. of course, there is more to the president's review than simple grades. there's the every day reality of his policies and the americans they affect. people like those making up a diverse group of women from columbus, ohio, women we first met in the last month of the campaign. back then they were undecided voters, frustrated and in some cases downright angry about the rhetoric and the direction the country was headed. now, nine months later we went back to talk to them, to ask them who they voted for, why and whether they believe they made the right choice. gary tuchman back tonight in "uncovering america." >> reporter: just days before the presidential election, these were the faces of the undecided voter. they did ultimately make a

choice. how many of you voted for john mccain when it came time to cast your ballots? amy. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: how many voted barack obama? so are these columbus, ohio women happy with their choices? we'll tell you in a second. first, a little background. back in october we watched the presidential debates with them. the stakes were high and these voters were frustrated. >> they both talked about the bailout and how it was going to fix things. i wrote in big letters how. i need to know what these grand, big plans they've got. >> reporter: barack obama did convince nearly all of them. so now, 200 days into his term, how many think barack obama is doing an amazing job as president? no hands. one hand. how many think he's doing a good job as president? one, two, three, four, five hands. and the one person who voted for john mccain, what kind of job do

you think barack obama is doing? >> i would say average. well, some things i approve of, some things i do not. >> reporter: amy polish decided to vote for mccain while in the voting booth. she was torn while watching the debates. she now says she doesn't much trust barack obama. >> i was fearful that his -- that put into action, his changes would be too extreme for me. >> reporter: have you found that to be true in the first 200 days? >> yes, i have. >> reporter: do you think your worst fears have been realized. >> i do. >> reporter: four voted for george w. bush over al gore in 2000. now they all say they're glad they voted for the democrat. >> it's a very tough job being president. i think he's done a good job tackling what he has. >> i think he needs some time. there's a lot of problems. and seven months is not enough time to fix everything. >> reporter: there is a lot to fix. and a lot of promises have been made. how many fear that barack obama will raise taxes for people who

make less than $250,000 a year? >> i think it will -- >> i'm not fearful. i think it will happen. it has to. >> one thing i'm fearful about, i'm thinking that you're doing all these programs and you're doing all these super large projects and it's like you got all this money going out. but the money's not coming in to offset it. >> reporter: as for money going out, president obama's stimulus plan did not get complete support for all the people who voted for it. you're not pleased with how the stimulus money has been distributed, is that correct? >> i believe he did not have a plan, how the stimulus was going to be given out. >> reporter: the women can agree the president has urgent priorities. when we talked with juanita simmons before election day she received some bad news. >> my husband was told his last day of employment would be november 28th. >> reporter: nine months later. >> still looking for work.

>> reporter: do you think barack obama has done anything to help a man like your husband, helping him to get a job? >> i can't say yes to that. i need a more clear picture of how jobs will be created. >> reporter: if the economy is issue number one for these women, health care is right behind it. >> health care is a personal subject for me. after the election at some point i ended up in the emergency room and i have no health care. i'm paying, you know -- >> out of pocket? >> out of pocket for an emergency room visit. >> reporter: how many of you understand barack obama's health care proposal? don't all raise your hands at once. >> he came on tv to try to tell us about it. >> reporter: the one mccain supporter still wishes the arizona senator was in the white house. the other six women are by and large pleased with their decision and say there's now a different feeling in the country. >> you can feel the lessening of the fear. people were fearful and whether it's psychological, real, i

don't know. i just know that you can certainly feel a difference. >> reporter: but nobody here is ready to declare the obama presidency an unqualified success or failure for that matter. after all, he's only been in office for 200 days. there are still 1,261 days to go. gary tuchman, cnn, columbus, ohio. >> not that anyone's counting. mexico's most wanted man. he's one of the richest people on earth. makele ware takes us on the search to find him. you read his words. watch him speak. the gunman that opened fire at a health club near pittsburgh. tonight, his haunting video message. this tums goes to work in seconds and lasts for hours. all day or night. new tums dual action. bring it on. announcer: some people buy a car based on the deal they get.

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>> reporter: he makes a living mochrie of america's war on drugs. he is joaquin el chapo guzman. he's one of america's most wanted with a $5 million u.s. government bounty on his head. >> he's thegy who is currently at war against the government of mexico, against law enforcement and military forces. >> reporter: at war because el chapo heads the ultraviolent, ultralucrative drug cartel, his exploits legendary. >> translator: el chapo guzman is like a god in mexico, says antonio or taking go. nobody sees him but he's everywhere. he's a myth. criminal lawyer, antonio ortego talks about the man. he met himself while he was here in this prison before he escaped in 2001. when you sit with him, says

ortega, you see a strong man, sensitive and intel jens gent at the same time. you don't see a narco trafficker or killer or assassin. he didn't have the scars or that funny face. he doesn't have it. he looks at you deeply, at the eyes, like an x-ray machine. he can look right inside. and el chapo's prison life was the stuff of legends. 19 days before his escape, el chapo hosted a new year's eve party with another cartel boss. there was a banned playing. there was alcohol, lighting, all the best brands ortega told me. it was like a party in one of the best clubs in manhattan. >> he has that robinhood per

se persona. he's tending to the needs of the poor and the people who surround him. >> on the run, el chapo's business continues to flourish and his orders followed. ten months ago, this mutilated body appeared outside a mexican police station. the message hanging over his corpse signed in el chapo's name. many mexicans believe el chapo's whereabouts are no mystery. in april, this catholic archbishop pronounced everybody knows his whereabouts except the authorities, claiming el chapo is in these mountains in the country's north, not far from the u.s. border. el chapo's exploits continue to undermine the mexican president. especially when "forbes" magazine named el chapo 701st on the world's rich list with a net worth of $1 billion. we deeply regret what seems look a campaign against mexico which has escalated says president

calderon. first from public opinion and now even magazines which are not only attacking and lying about the situation, but are also praising criminals. this from a president who upped the ante in the drug war, sending over 40,000 mexican soldiers into the city. a bid backed by u president barack obama. >> it's important that the united states steps up and cooperates effectively in battling the adverse effects of drug trafficking. >> reporter: that was back in june. since then, the slaughter in mexico has continued and el chapo's drugs have continued to pour into america. all the while with el chapo guzman remaining the face of an unwinnable drug war on america's border. michael ware, cnn, mexico city. next on "360," from a killer on the run to a madman behind

bars. charles manson 40 years later. the obsession still burns in books, blogs, fan sites. later, the money and the mystery. the former girlfriend of john edwards appearing in court to answer questions about campaign cash. we'll have the latest for you, coming up. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart. i'm going to be grandma for a long time.

it was 40 years ago this sunday that charles manson asked his followers to kill for him. they didn't have to but they did. and it remains one of the most infamous killing sprees in u.s. history. decades later, that fascination endures, especially for the mastermind. to this day, the cult of charles manson continues to grow. but why? ted roland has answers in our "crime and punishment report" on the manson murders. >> reporter: do you believe in god, charlie? >> sure.

i believe in myself. why wouldn't i. >> reporter: it was the madman behind the murders that frightened and fascinated the world. 40 years later, charles manson continues to draw attention. when this prison mug shot was released in march, millions viewed it online. helter-skelter remains the number one selling true crime book of all time, authored by vincent bugliosi, the prosecutor who put manson away. >> other than jack the ripper whose identity has not been conclusively established, manson may be the most famous, notorious mass murderer ever. >> reporter: some people can't seem to get enough. and a perfect example is scott michaels company called dearly departed tours. they have a helter-skelter tour where people go around to different spots that are connected to the manson murders. who goes on these tours? >> the people that take this four are people that are generally fascinated with this case. >> it's completely fascinating.

it's got celebrities, blood, it's got gore ♪ helter-skelter >> reporter: helter-skelter, the made for tv movie came out in 1976 but documentaries about manson are still being made. feeding the fascination over what happen eed and why. >> meeting charlie for the first time was very exciting. >> reporter: the history channel is premiering "manson" next month. >> he gave me the feeling that i would be cared for. and that he took care of everybody. i eventually felt really safe and protected. we were like his churn. >> it wasn't charles manson followers. i never had any followers. that was the district attorney's trip. >> this is the home coming up on the left. >> reporter: on the bus where it's $50 for a three-hour tour, it's not just about making

money. he's also obsessed with the manson case. >> i don't think i'm a bad person. the people that take my tour are not bad people. they're interested in something that's horrific but it's still history. >> reporter: a piece of history many people don't want to forget. >> i'm terrible, a terrible guy, man, i'm awful. >> reporter: ted roland, cnn, los angeles. up next, inside the mind of another killer. the man who went on a ram pa pain -- rampage at a pennsylvania gym left a video diary online. and also saying good-bye to filmmaker john hughes. some of his most memorable movie moments. $3500 or $4500 cash back ditiol on a new, more fuel-efficient chevy. your chevy dealer has more eligible models to choose from. more than ford, toyota, or honda. now get an '09 cobalt for under fifteen-five after all offers. and get it for even less if you

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our tribute to director john hughes who died suddenly today, coming up. first, gary tuckman with a "3 0 bulletin." the suspect had connections to the slain couple byrd and melanie billings. he allegedly has ties to the mexican mafia. he's not saying how if at all that connects up with byrd billings. another window open into the mind of the pittsburgh health club killer. video surfacing on youtube. a kind of pep talk to himself about learning to connect with the opposite sex. there's also a hint of the desperation that led him to shoot 12 women, killing three of them tuesday night.

>> it's easy for me to hide from my emotions for one more day. take a long drive in the car, listen to some music, daydream or do a mundane task around the house that really doesn't need to be done, that's not too important. there you go, one more day. one more day turns into one more year. >> so tragic. john edwards former mistress there to open question before a grand jury. 7-year-old daniela ernest wanted to earn her way to disneyland selling littlen aid. a sweet ending after learning about her story, a local radio station gave her family four passes to disneyland in exchange for 30 glasses of lemonade. >> not a bad deal. >> we'll all be working for

daniela one day. >> we might be in a safer spot, though. up next, the shot. a series of shots of best moments from the long career of director john hughes who died far too young. plus, the "360" exclusive. lisa ling talks about the homecoming of her sister laura and her colleague, euna lee. pid. advil® liqui-gels rush real liquid relief... wherever you hurt. advil® liqui-gels. liquid fast. advil strong.

finally tonight, paying tribute to a filmmaker who defined an era. a prolific writer, producer and director, hughes was behind some of the most popular movies of the '80s like "pretty in pink," "16 candles" as well as others. manufacture us can recite the dialogue line by line as a lot of us were doing during the break in the studio. we thought we'd put together our favorite scenes for you tonight. >> she's gotten her boobies. >> i better go get my magnifying glass. >> oh, and they are so perky. >> who closed that door? >> i think a screw fell out of it.

>> it just closed, sir. >> who? >> she doesn't talk, sir. >> what's happening, hot stuff? >> you guys give up or are you thirsty for more? >> so what would you little maniacs like to do first? >> anderson? anderson? >> here. >> bueller? bueller? bueller? bueller? >> if only we could have played more. so many great scenes. >> that name has become part of popular culture. when you're annoyed at somebody, you go, bueller! >> it's part of the culture. >> he will be missed. coming up here at the top of the hour, you saw the homecoming, now lisa ling joins us exclusively with the story

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breaking news on two fronts, including the apparent killing of one of america's top enemies in afghanistan and pakistan. but first, it is a "360" exclusive. in her first interview since her sister's return, lisa ling

tonight joining us on "360" to talk about what's happened since her sister laura and her colleague, euna lee, came home from north korea. how they're re-adjusting and how their two families are helping and how euna's 4-year-old daughter, hana is doing now that mommy is finally home. they arrived wednesday morning in burbank, california. former president bill children securing their release. he spoke publicly about that trip for the first time today. but frankly, said very little. >> i wanted those young women to be able to come home. and i wanted our two countries to have the ability to decide where to go from here. it would be wrong for me to say any more. the young women can speak for themselves about their

experiences aentheir feelings. the pictures were worth a million words yesterday. i'm glad i could be of some help. >> pictures which seemed to capture the heart of a nation. since then, both families have been out of the public eye. tonight, though, lisa ling has been kind enough to give us a window into the moments since that plane touched down and some of the moments leading up to it. she joins us, exclusively live by phone. thank you so much for talking with us tonight. >> thanks, erica. >> the first question, not only for us here at cnn but also for people across the country, how is your sister, laura, doing tonight? >> well, we are all just elated beyond words. my sister is so, so happy to be home. she's still quite weak and exhausted and incredibly emotional. you know, she's been in relative isolation for months and months and, you know, she doesn't even like to be alone. yesterday she was so exhausted and she wanted to take a quick nap. she kept asking me, are you going to be here when i come

back? are you going to be here when i come back? today we took her to the doctor's office and i wasn't planning on going to the doctor with her. my mom was going to take her. and she said, will you please come with me? she hasn't wanted to be alone. i hear from euna's husband, michael, that hana, their 4-year-old daughter has not wanted her mother to leave her sight. she just keeps following her around from room to room because she doesn't want her mom to leave anywhere, leave her. >> i think that's probably understandable for most people, especially for parents watching this right now. has it sunk in for you, yet, lisa, that your sister is finally home after nearly five months fighting to get her here? >> i have to say, erica, when i woke up this morning, i had this sense of calm and happiness that i have not felt in months, because every time i have woken up, every single day for the last 140 days, i just like kind of dreaded the day because i knew that my sister wasn't here.

and i just -- when i would wake up, i'd think about what she was doing or wasn't doing, what she couldn't do. it really was just devastating. so this morning, like i just woke up and i said i'm going to go see her. it was like 7:00 in the morning and i didn't want to call the house in case she was sleeping an her husband texted -- sent me a text message saying we're awake. and i was probably there within 15 or 20 minutes. i was waiting by the phone to call me to tell me they were up. >> somehow i imagine, even as relieved as you were, it was still very tough to sleep last night. you mentioned her days, she was basically in isolation for 3 1/2 months it sounds like. how did she occupy herself during that time? what did she do to keep her spirits up and remain positive? >> it's interesting. because i think when you're in such isolation, you do what you have to do. you know, she read a lot. we were able to send her books. and she -- for exercise, she

said she walked around her room like, you know, for sometimes hours in a day. and, you know, bathing was a little bit difficult because they didn't have hot water and, you know, the water was sporadic. she would fill up buckets. so she'd say, okay, on saturday i'm going to wash my hair. and, you know, little things like that, you just sort of have to plan and adapt to a new version of normalcy. >> i know you mentioned yesterday there were rocks in her rice. was she fed on a regular basis? what kind of food was she given and did she think the rocks were intentional or did they end up in the bowl? >> i think because the north korea has economic challenges. she was fed three times a day and she was just given a simple, small meal. the portions were quite small.

there was rice and, you know, a little vegetable and maybe a little piece of fried fish to which she sort of developed a reaction afterwards. so she said that they treated her humanely. but, yeah, the rocks were -- she said were not intentional. >> did she ever feel -- fear for her safety or feel threatened? >> you know, we haven't really talked too much about, you know, what happened the day of and, you know, in terms of the specifics. because i think it's really emotional for her. i know that there was a period in the beginning where she did suffer from some physical -- she had a physical situation. and she did get sick once and we had no idea because there was no communication. but overall, you know, she kept stressing, you know, they treated me humanely.

the thing that was really moving to me was despite what she was going through, i knew this would happen, because i have to tell you, my sister is just such a remarkable person that, i think she won a lot of her captors over. i really -- she had lovely things to say about the people who were, you know, who were watching over her. she had two guards in her room at all times, morning and night. even though they couldn't speak to each other, somehow they developed kind of a strange sort of kinship. >> interesting to hear that. there's been a lot of speculation, a lot of questions frankly, about how she and euna were actually captured in the first place. did she know they had crossed into north korean territory? have you been able to talk to her about that? >> we've talked about it briefly. and she definitely wants to divulge exactly what happened.

and i think she's going to write an editorial very, very soon that addresses it. and i want to let her do it. she did say they touched north korean territory very, very briefly. and then beyond that, i want to let her tell the story. >> there is, of course, i'm sure you felt this collective sigh of relief, these tears of joy obviously from your family, euna's family. it seems like the entire country was so wrapped up in this. there was criticism as well. as to how their release came about. fareed zakaria spoke to hillary clinton about that. >> john bolton -- >> should we even go on? >> no, you really shouldn't. >> he said this is rewarding hostage taking. why is he wrong? they effectively took hostages.

>> we've done this so many times before. we've had former presidents do it. we've had sitting members of congress do it. it is something that, you know, it is absolutely not rewarding them. it is not in any way responding to specific demands. it is a recognition that certain countries that i think are kind of beyond the pale of the rule of law hold people and subject them to long prison terms that are absolutely unfair and unwarranted. and maybe it's, you know, the fact i have a daughter but i believed that if we could bring these young women home, we should bring them home. >> were you concerned at all that this private message may be sending the wrong message? >> i've heard this. you know, i heard john bolton make his statement. and the fact of the matter is that bill clinton went to north korea on a humanitarian mission, to bring back laura and euna.

he was on the ground less than 24 hours. 20 hours, i believe, was the duration of his stay. that was really it. and it was communicated to me, through my sister, who communicated on the things she had been told, that bill clinton was the person that they needed to come and get them if they were going to be released. and frankly, bill clinton was gracious enough to agree to do it. and we are so, so grateful. if he didn't do it, i know that the girls wouldn't be here right now. >> lisa, again, we can't thank you enough for talking with us and if you would, stick with us for a couple of minutes while we take a short break. we'd love to hear more about how your sister is doing today. while you're here with us

watching the show, we'd love to hear what you think about laura, euna, and also everything that lisa's been able to tell us tonight. logon to ac360.com and join the live blog. we'll be getting to the other breaking story as well. the story we're following out of pakistan, the shadowy top taliban leader in pakistan, a major threat to the american forces over the border in afghanistan. also a major friend of al qaeda. has a u.s. air strike actually managed to kill him? we'll have details from michael ware and peter bergen who is in islamabad. while the cult of charles manson not only will not die but in fact seems to be going strong.

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welcome back to "360." our exclusive interview continues with lisa ling. before the break she told us her sister, laura and euna lee did briefly touch north korean soil before their arrest.

lisa is back with us now in an exclusive interview tonight. i do want to go back to that for one second. that's really, i think, unless i'm wrong here, it's the first time we've heard that or it sounds like they've come forward or had the chance to say that. talk to me more, if you could, about what laura told you about those moments? >> you know, that's really it. it was something that, you know, they were never planning to do originally. i mean, i said this before, when they left u.s. soil they never intended to cross into north korea. and, you know, they -- i mean she said it was maybe 30 seconds. and then, you know, everything just sort of got chaotic. again, it's a very powerful story. and she does want to share it. but i just really want to let her do that. >> right. which is understandable. i have to ask you, what was going through your mind as you

saw your sister walk down the steps of that plane yesterday morning? >> you know, i think it was the most glorious sight that i have ever seen. i mean, before yesterday, it had been weeks since i heard her voice and the swedish ambassador, who was their only non-north korean life line between the girls and us, hadn't seen them for over a month. and also whenever she would call, even though she said she was okay, we didn't know. the calls were being monitored and so on. so we really had no idea of how they were or where they were. so just seeing them walk down the stairs, being able to walk, frankly, was just a sight that i cannot even describe in words. it was just so, so beautiful. and it was truly the happiest day of my life. >> i think that's

understandable. you mentioned a little bit earlier, you talked about hana who has captured everyone's heart. we've showed a number of times, the picture she drew one time with anderson, spoke with you and her father, michael and how her mother was no longer in that picture. you said she hasn't let go of her mom since. has she talked about her mom at all since she got home? or lien leading up to it? do you think she understood mommy was coming home? >> i think she did think that mommy was coming home and, you know, she was able to talk to euna one time when euna called. and euna was really smart. she called michael and said let me call you right back and leave a phone message on the voicemail. on it she said that mommy was going to be back soon and she loved her so that they could play it for hana all the time. i actually think that of all of us, little hana had the most confidence that she would be seeing her mom soon. she just maintained such an

incredible spirit. and the day of -- when we were watching on television, on cnn, the plane arriving in burbank, hana was exuberant saying mommy's on that plane. she was just so excited. you saw her skipping up to the plane. it was just -- that was something that just completely, completely, you know, brought tears to all of our eyes. because it's just been a long time coming. >> it has. an a long fight to get there. what's the first thing your sister asked for yesterday? what did she want to do? >> all she really wanted to do was go home and be with her family. there wasn't -- again, she's been without us and in relative isolation and she just wanted to sit in a room with all of us. i mean, we were just -- it was really an emotional sort of fiasco. we all just couldn't stop crying.

we had to just keep pinching ourselves. we were almost in disbelief that this day had finally arrived. >> i know you still have a lot of catching up to do. lisa, we can't thank you enough for taking the time to be with us tonight. thank your sister as well for letting you share some of those details. we wish you the best as you continue to get re-acquainted and enjoy your time together. >> thanks a lot. straight ahead, we are also on top of tonight's other breaking story. pakistan's most wanted man and one of america's toughest adversaries, possibly killed, we're learning, by a u.s. drone. what could this mean for the world of terror and pakistan? america has been grading president obama right here on cnn. tom foreman will join us with the trends behind those grades and also what they could mean for the president's agenda heading forward. when you think about all you can do in an all-wheel-drive subaru... you'll find there is a lot to love.

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more breaking news tonight about a man rarely seen on camera and never very clearly. frequently with his back turned. tonight, though, there's word from american officials the top taliban leader in pakistan just might have been caught in the gun sights of a u.s. drone. targeted and killed. taliban commander baitullah mehsud, is he really gone and if so, what's next? joining us now, cnn's michael ware and peter bergen. peter, i want to start with you. he's the leader of a major coalition of taliban groups and al qaeda supporters. so if he is dead, how big of a blow is this to their goals and in fact their holding there? >> reporter: it's quite a big deal. he's the alleged master mind of the assassination of benazir bhutto, the leader of pakistan's major political party in 2007. the u.n. has identified him as a

principal source of suicide attackers in pakistan. he's also a principal source of suicide attackers going over the border in afghanistan, killing nato, u.s. and afghan forces there. certainly taking him out of picture is important. we have seen him before, the leader of al qaeda in iraq. taking out one person doesn't end things. this is an important symbolic victory if indeed it is true. >> michael, for a lot of folks at home, the immediate thought would go to afghanistan, pakistan's neighbor, where there are a number of u.s. troops fighting the war there. he was known to be an ally of mullah omar and the taliban. what's the impact of his death on the u.s. war on the taliban in afghanistan? >> that's a good question, erica. i'd say two things. as mark twain said, reports of my death are exaggerated. we heard that baitullah mehsud has been killed before, only to see him resurface. we've seen this with many al qaeda leaders in the past. so we do need to keep in check any sense of optimism over this strike.

monitoring jihadi and american websites and blogs at the moment, i'm still seeing very conflicting reports. in terms of the american war in afghanistan, the death if it's true of baitullah mehsud, i'm afraid to report, will only have a limited impact. the war principally in afghanistan is being fought by afghan taliban. now you have al qaeda in the middle trying to unite these groups as much as possible, trying to direct efforts in one direction on several fronts. but baitullah mehsud is primarily responsible for the pakistani conflict there. in terms of american boots on the ground, american deaths and casualties and british deaths and casualties, this may still have a limited impact. erica? >> peter, is there any concern,

even though it may have a limited impact in afghanistan that the death could embolden his supporters in pakistan and maybe that could spill over? >> reporter: well, i mean there may be some reprisal killings. i'm going to disagree with michael slightly. most of the suicide attackers go into afghanistan, according to the united nations, come from the tribal areas where baitullah mehsud is. i've interviewed a number of them. and overwhelmingly, they come from the tribal areas of pakistan where mehsud is based. we've seen the americans and the pakistanis cooperate very strongly, trying to kill baitullah mehsud or his network. president obama has authorized 28 drone strikes since he took office. that's more than president bush had done at this point last year. and about 13 of them, at least half of them have been directed at baitullah mehsud's network. even if he himself had not been killed, these drone strikes have put a great deal of pressure on his network and indeed his

family. it is concerned that his wife and 5-year-old daughter is dead. >> it's a network where he said in an interview with al jazeera, the main aim is to finish britain, the u.s. and crush the pride of nonmuslims. there is plenty of hatred for the u.s., the uk and the west. what's the significance if in fact he was killed by a u.s. drone, peter? >> well, in many ways -- >> president obama has amped up this program. >> go ahead, peter and michael i'll let you weigh in after. >> reporter: sure. president obama has ramped up this program. president bush started ramping it up around july of 2008 and president obama has really taken this program and authorized more strikes than under his predecessor. >> michael, i'll give you the last word here. >> reporter: and what i was going to say, obviously, pakistan's alliance with america in terms of fighting the taliban is a hot button issue,

domestically in pakistan. america is not popular, generally with the pakistanis. so the government and islamabad has tried to maintain a distance from washington. even while it collaborates with these air strikes. but from washington, if indeed this has been a success, then america should herald this. it shouldn't shy away from celebrating this as a tactical and perhaps a strategic victory. erica? >> we'll continue to follow the developments. michael ware, peter bergen, good to have both of you with us tonight. thank you. there's much more to get to tonight. gary tuchman standing by with the headlines and the "360 bulletin." the husband of the new york driver who authorities say was drunk and high when she caused a deadly head-on crash defended his wife at a news conference today and denied she had a drinking problem. >> she was a perfect wife, outstanding mother, hard worker. reliable person, trustworthy.

i would marry her again tomorrow. she's awesome. she's the best. to go to bed every night knowing my heart is clear she did not drink, she's not an olympic. she is not an alcoholic. my heart is rested every night when i go to bed. something medically had to have happened. >> dianne schuller crashed her mini van into an suv after driving nearly two miles the wrong way on a highway. she was killed along with her daughter, three nieces and three other adults. toxicology reports released said schuller had more than twice the legal limit of alcohol in her blood. judge sonia sotomayor will be sworn in saturday as supreme court justice sotomayor. the senate confirming her nomination today. nine republicans gave their support. the 55-year-old federal appeals court judge will be the first hispanic and third woman to sit on the high court. aerosmith singer steven tyler is being treated for head, neck and shoulder injuries after falling off a stage during a concert in south dakota. at first the audience thought the fall was part of his act.

the 61-year-old rocker was air lifted to a hospital. it's unclear tonight how seriously he was hurt. and twitter has dusted itself off after an attack by hackers shut it down for two hours today. twitter's rival facebook was hit by a less severe attack. unclear if the attacks were linked. unable to tweet? what did twitter devotees do with the down time? that's something to tweet about tonight. erica hill is already tweeting about it. >> i'm blogging about it. i'm not so good with the tweets. i need to get better. gary, thanks. still ahead, on the eve of president obama's 200th day in office, how is he doing? we'll break it all out for you. plus, undecided voters? remember them? we met plenty of them. we went back and checked in with one-time undecided voters to find out who they did vote for last november and get their take on how the president is doing now. also ahead, 40 years later, the manson murders remain one of the infamous and horrifying crimes the nation has seen. new perspective on why this

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tomorrow marks president obama's 200th day in office. pretty good time to take measure of what he's done so far and how he's doing as president and who better to ask than you? so we did. we asked you to weigh in. manufacture you have responded. our online polling has ended. which means it's time to bring in tom foreman who has the numbers and the "raw politics" behind the grades. >> reporter: it's a good time to do the polling, maybe not such a good time in the white house tonight. this is cnn research opinion polls. this is scientific. president barack obama overall grade "c" plus. his foreign policy during the second 100 did is, "c" plus. health care handling during the second 100 days, a "c" minus. that's the scientific approach to all of this. we can break it down state by state with our unscientific poll where people could register their own opinions about this. look at this.

this is the obama administration's handling of the economy, this is "c" minus, all across the board here. that's what this green means. 100 days ago, look, it was all in the "b" range. a huge change there. i want you to take note of one thing. as we go back to the "c" minus. i'll circle part of the country right here and look at this part of the country. i'll tell you in a moment why that's important. one of the signature issues throughout this entire time has been health care. here we have every single day of the second 100 days of the obama administration. i want you to listen to what he said just about 3 1/2 weeks ago when he was still insisting we'd get health care done and get it done on time. listen to this. >> i want to put everybody on notice. there was a lot of chatter during the week i was gone. we are going to get this done. inaction is not an option. for those naysayers and cynics who think that this is not going to happen, don't bet against this. >> the problem is, a lot of voters out there are betting

against him. look at that big area i mentioned. we go to health care, that's where he's getting absolutely pounded. you know what matters about this part of the country, this is the older part of the country. people here are generally older than they are elsewhere. these people are invested in the question of what happens to their health care. want proof of it? look back to where they were 100 days ago when the question was swine flu. some of the most enthusiastic support for what he's doing about swine flu is, again, among people who are a little bit older. they're concerned about this thing. some of the other numbers worth noting, on the issue of foreign affairs with, more than 2 million people gave a "c" also. 100 days ago, that was bs with some even higher grades up in here "as" in that area, brighter colors. interestingly enough, foreign affairs, hillary clinton, the person in charge of all it, the brightest point in entire survey for everyone out there for this administration. she had more bs in here than anybody else, looking pretty good.

even getting arizona down here, john mccain's home state. she got a "b" mean us in in there. moving on to some of the other categories. joe biden is not doing particularly well, getting even a "c" in delaware. the senators from your own state. the folks in north dakota, a "b" level. congress not doing well. republican leadership in congress not doing well. all failing grades. the media not doing well and at the end down here, barack obama overall, a "c" minus and look at the change here. 100 days ago, he had a solid "b" with better scores now. it's all in the "c" range. the only one doing better than that is right over here, the district of columbia with a "b" minus and erica, they can't vote. >> too bad for them. that doesn't work out so well. tom foreman, appreciate it, as always. of course, there is more to the president's review than simple grades. there's the every day reality of his policies and the americans they affect. people like those making up a diverse group of women from columbus, ohio, women we first met in the last month of the

campaign. back then they were undecided voters, frustrated and in some cases downright angry about the rhetoric and the direction the country was headed. now, nine months later we went back to talk to them, to ask them who they voted for, why and whether they believe they made the right choice. gary tuchman back tonight in "uncovering america." >> reporter: just days before the presidential election, these were the faces of the undecided voter. they did ultimately make a choice. how many of you voted for john mccain when it came time to cast your ballots? amy. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: i can deduce this but i'll ask anyway. how many voted for barack obama? so are these columbus, ohio women happy with their choices? we'll tell you in a second. first, a little background. back in october we watched the presidential debates with them. the stakes were high and these voters were frustrated. >> they both talked about the bailout and how it was going to fix things. i wrote in big letters how.

i need to know what these grand, big plans they've got. >> reporter: barack obama did convince nearly all of them. so now, 200 days into his term, how many think barack obama is doing an amazing job as president? no hands. one hand. how many think he's doing a good job as president? one, two, three, four, five hands. and the one person who voted for john mccain, what kind of job do you think barack obama is doing? >> i would say average. well, some things i approve of, some things i do not. >> reporter: amy polish decided to vote for mccain while in the voting booth. she was torn while watching the debates. she now says she doesn't much trust barack obama. >> i was fearful that his -- that put into action, his changes would be too extreme for me. >> reporter: have you found that to be true in the first 200 days? >> yes, i have. i have. >> reporter: do you think your

worst fears have been realized about barack obama? >> i do. >> reporter: four voted for george w. bush over al gore in 2000, of those who voted for barack obama. now they all say they're glad they voted for the democrat. >> it's a very tough job being president. i think he's done a good job tackling what he has. >> i think he needs some time. there's a lot of problems. and seven months is not enough time to fix everything. >> reporter: there is a lot to fix. and a lot of promises have been made. how many of you fear that barack obama will raise taxes for people who make less than $250,000 a year? >> i think it will -- >> i'm not fearful. i think it will happen. >> reporter: you think it will happen? >> it has to. >> one thing i'm fearful about, i'm thinking that you're doing all these programs and you're doing all these super large projects and it's like you got all this money going out. but the money's not coming in to offset it. >> reporter: as for money going out, president obama's stimulus plan did not get complete

support from all the people who voted for it. you're not pleased with how the stimulus money has been distributed, is that correct? >> i believe he did not have a plan, how the stimulus was going to be given out. >> reporter: the women can agree the president has urgent priorities. when we talked with juanita simmons before election day she received some bad news. >> my husband was just told today that his last day of employment will be november 28th. >> reporter: nine months later? still looking for work? >> still looking for work. >> reporter: do you think barack obama has done anything to help a man like your husband, helping him have an easier time getting a job? >> i can't say yes to that. i need a more clear picture of how jobs will be created. >> reporter: if the economy is issue number one for these women, health care is right behind it. >> health care is a personal subject for me. after the election at some point i ended up in the emergency room and i have no health care. i'm paying, you know -- >> reporter: out of pocket?

>> out of pocket for an emergency room visit. >> reporter: how many of you understand barack obama's health care proposal? don't all raise your hands at once. >> he came on tv to try to tell us about it. i came away really not understanding any more than when i started. >> reporter: the one mccain supporter still wishes the arizona senator was in the white house. the other six women are by and large pleased with their decision and say there's now a different feeling in the country. >> you can feel the lessening of the fear. people were fearful and whether it's psychological, real, i don't know. i just know that you can certainly feel a difference. >> reporter: but nobody here is ready to declare the obama presidency an unqualified success or failure for that matter. after all, he's only been in office for 200 days. there are still 1,261 days to go. gary tuchman, cnn, columbus, ohio. >> not that anyone's counting. join the live chat happening at ac360.com. up next, you'll meet mexico's most want man. he's not only ruthless, turns

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to mexico and the war next door that has left thousands dead or kidnapped. the search is on in earnest for public enemy number one in the drug trade. he's part ceo and, frankly, part scarface. he's a billionaire gangster with a booming business right here in america. his face is everywhere. but finding him has been just about impossible. once again, here's michael ware on the search for the man known as el chapo. >> reporter: this man makes a

living mockery of america's war on drugs. he is joaquin el chapo guzman. he's one of america's most wanted with a $5 million u.s. government bounty on his head. >> he's the guy who is currently at war against the government of mexico, against law enforcement and military forces. >> reporter: at war because el chapo heads the ultraviolent, ultralucrative drug cartel, his exploits legendary. el chapo guzman, he's like a god in mexico, says antonio ortega. nobody sees him but he's everywhere. he's a myth. criminal lawyer, antonio ortega is one of the few daring enough to speak about el chapo on camera. he met himself while he was here in this prison before he escaped in 2001. when you sit with him, says

ortega, you see a human contradiction. you see a strong man, intelligent and sensitive at the same time, ortega told me, in this mexico city park. you don't see a narco trafficker or killer or assassin. he doesn't have scars. he doesn't have that funny face. he doesn't have it. he looks at you deeply, at the eyes, like an x-ray machine. he can look right inside. and el chapo's prison life was the stuff of legends. 19 days before his escape, el chapo hosted a new year's eve party with another cartel boss. theres with a band playing. there were ladies, there was alcohol, all the best bands, ortega told me. it was like a party in one of the best clubs in manhattan. >> he has that robinhood persona. he's constantly attending to the poor, the needs of the poor and the people who surround him.

>> reporter: on the run, el chapo's business has continued to flourish and his orders followed. ten months ago, this mutilated body appeared outside a mexican police station. the message hanging over his corpse signed in el chapo's name. many mexicans believe el chapo's whereabouts are no mystery. in april, this catholic archbishop hector gonzalez martinez pronounced everybody knows his wheres about, except the authorities, claiming el chapo is in these mountains in the country's north, not far from the u.s. border. el chapo's exploits continue to undermine mexican president felipe calderon. especially when "forbes" magazine named el chapo 701st on the world's rich list with a net worth of $1 billion. we deeply regret what seems look a campaign against mexico which has escalated says president calderon. first from public opinion and

now even magazines which are not only attacking and lying about the situation, but are also praising criminals. this from a president who upped the ante in the drug war, sending over 40,000 mexican army soldiers into the streets of its own cities in a bid to crush the cartel. a bid backed by u.s. president barack obama. >> it's important that the united states steps up and cooperates effectively in battling the adverse effects of drug trafficking. >> reporter: that was back in june. since then, the slaughter in mexico has continued and el chapo's drugs have continued to pour into america. all the while with el chapo guzman remaining the face of an unwinnable drug war on america's border. michael ware, cnn, mexico city. next on "360," from a killer on the run to a madman behind bars. charles manson 40 years later.

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it was 40 years ago this sunday that charles manson asked his followers to kill for him. they didn't have to but they did. and it remains one of the most infamous killing sprees in u.s. history. decades later, that fascination endures, especially for the mastermind. to this day, the cult of charles manson continues to grow. but why? ted roland has answers in our "crime and punishment report" on the manson murders.

>> reporter: do you believe in god, charlie? >> sure. i believe in myself. why wouldn't i. >> reporter: the murders made headlines but it was the madman behind them that frightened and fascinated the world. 40 years later charles manson continues to draw attention when this prison mug shot was released in march, millions viewed it online. helter-skelter remains the number one selling true crime book of all time authored by the prosecutor who put manson away. i guess we could say other than jack the ripper whose identity still has not been conclusively established, manson may be the most famous notorious mass murderer ever. >> reporter: some people can't seem to get enough. >> a perfect example is scott michael's company called dearly departered tours. they have a "helter-skelter" tour where people go around to different spots connected to the manson murders.

who goes on these tours? >> the people who take the tours are people who are fascinated with the case. >> it's fascinating. it's got celebrities, it's got blood, it's got gore. >> reporter: "helter-skelter" came out in 1976. documentaries over manson are still being made, the fascination over what happened and why. >> meeting charlie for the first time was very exciting. >> reporter: the history channel is premiering "manson" next month. >> he gave me the feeling that i would be cared for and that he took care of everybody. i eventually felt really safe and protected. we were like his children. >> charles manson followers. i've never had any followers. >> this is bianca's home on our

left. >> reporter: back on the bus where it's $50 a ticket for a three-hour tour, scott says it's not just about making money, he's also obsessed with the manson case. >> i don't think i'm a bad person. i don't think the people who take my tour aren't bad people. they're just interested in something that's horrific but it's still history. >> reporter: a piece of history many people don't want to forget. >> i'm terrible. i'm awful, man. move so quickly you wouldn't believe it. >> reporter: ted rowlands, cnn, los angeles. up next, inside the man of another skill killer. the man who went on a rampage at a pennsylvania gym left a video diary online. saying good-bye to filmmaker john hughes.

our tribute to director john hughes who died suddenly today coming up. first, gary tuchman back

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john hughes died of a heart attack in new york today. he was 59. producer, writer, director. hughes behind some of the most popular movies like "16 candles." "the breakfast club." "ferris bueller's day off." many grew up on the scenes, music. many can recite the dialogue line by line. we thought we'd put together a few of our favorite scenes for you tonight. >> she's gotten her boobies. >> i better go get my magnifying glass. >> who closed that door? >> it just closed, sir. >> adler? >> yeah. >> enderson? enderson? >> here. >> bueller? bueller? bueller? >> if only we could have played more. so many great scenes. >>t