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if you missed any part of today's show, check out my podcast. remember, this is the place for the answers to all of your medical questions. thanks for watching. more news on cnn starts right now. from the cnn center, this is cnn sunday morning, it is august 9th, 8:00 a.m. here at cnn headquarters in atlanta. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. good morning, everybody, thanks for joining us. >> i'm in today for t.j. holmes. we are getting new information on that helicopter plane collision over the hudson this morning. nine people died in that crash and at this moment divers are getting back into the water for the recovery effort. we'll talk live to the national transportation safety board in a few minutes. also, this video, chaos in california.
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fires, inmates, and injuries overnight at a prison. plus, health care reform, what is really going on? >> i read things about the house health care plan and found that much of what they're telling me is not true. >> congressional members holding health care town hall meetings are hearing an earful. well, investigators, they are searching the murky waters of the hudson river this morning for clues as to what caused a helicopter and small plane to collide yesterday. no one is believed to have survived. searchers pulled three of the bodies from the water yesterday. susan candiotti has more. >> reporter: as is sun sets, divers who could barely see in the murkky waters promised to resume in the morning. up to 50 feet of water. >> the ability to see is very limited. 2 feet to 3 feet at most. >> reporter: on a bright sunny
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day it was hard to understand why a small plane and sightseeing helicopters should collide over the river. >> i think i was shocked, i think i was screaming for a few seconds and then two of us started calling 911. >> the small plane like this one with the pilot, his brother, and his brother's son took off from the airport and turned south over the hudson, at the same time, five italian tourists lifted off for a sightseeing tour in a helicopter. >> there was a small plane cutting back towards new jersey side, heading southbound about 1,100 feet, 1,200, hit the side of the helicopter, the helicopter went straight down, there was a poof of smoke and a ban, the plane hit the water. >> reporter: italian tourists who waited behind were stunned. >> they told me that they had some relatives, not friends, but relatives. >> so they're inside the wall right now? >> yeah, but we don't know
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anything because we asked if they are alive. >> right. what did they say? >> no bodies. >> were they crying? >> no, they are very sad, but they're not crying. >> the ntsb says just before the accident happened, another pilot on the ground saw the plane approaching and tried to radio a warning to the helicopter pilot. >> there was no response from the pilot. he stated he saw the right wing of the airplane contact the helicopter. he saw helicopter parts and the right wing fall and both aircrafts descended into the hudson river. >> reporter: so far three bodies are recovered. autopsies are expected to begin sunday morning. >> and susan candiotti joins us live from hoboken, new jersey. do they think they've found all of the areas where the debris is scattered? >> reporter: well, they have definitely located where the helicopter wreckage is, and you
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can see live over my shoulder, the divers are back in the water and have been for sometime now. again the conditions not the greatest. so they've found where the helicopter's located. you see those two orange buoys out there in the water, they've added a third one, however, they're still trying to locate the wreckage of that small plane. again, conditions very tough out there, the water is murky, the current is strong, and the divers can barely see in front of them, only about 2 feet. >> they have a lot of work ahead of them. given the fact that a number of planes and helicopters fly over the hudson on any given day, are there any reports of communication problems during the time of this crash? >> reporter: we have no information on that at this time, but naturally that's one of the things that the ntsb will be looking at. they operate under visual flight rules in this particular corridor and that means that they ask pilots to be aware of traffic around them and communicate with each other and as an example of that there is a
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radio frequency that is designated and dedicated to the hudson river also out on the east river on the other side of manhattan and they ask pilots to use that frequency to communicate with each other. so that's one of the things that authorities will be looking into to see how much traffic there was on the radio channel before the accident happened. >> all right. cnn's susan candiotti joining us live. thank you, susan. well, our i-reporters are also staying on top of this story. jim davidson sent us these photos from the scene. he lives a few blocks from the river on the jersey side. there's some of the recovery efforts going on. he said he heard what sounded like a car backfiring or fireworks. he says he thinks -- he didn't think much of it at the time, but someone called him, one of his friends called him and told him about the crash and he ran down and took some of these pictures. much like what happened with the the u.s. air crash, a lot of resources there on the hudson river to jump in and take care
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of business. unfortunately this one, no survivors. we want to find out what happened. witnesses and accounts like that. put us on the scene at the time of the crash, but investigators with the national transportation safety board have to figure out what happened. they are back in the water right now. the head of the ntsb joins us live from the crash site. where are we in the investigation right now? what do you know? >> well, we've only been on scene for about -- well, less than 24 hours so we've got a lot of work ahead of us. we have gotten some very good information from witness interviews as well as some footage from still photos. we have really got to put together the sequence of events, know exactly where these aircrafts were, what the altitude was, what communications took place. the control tower late last night trying to put together some radar data and other
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information, we're going to get together in about an hour and go through what we found. >> what do you think will be the most vital piece of information? i know you're close to reporter susan candiotti. you may have overheard there are specific channels for radio contact along that corridor. are those channels recorded anywhere? will that be something you'll be able to dig into? >> we're looking very closely at any air traffic control communications that might have occurred between the tower, the fixed wing aircraft that had taken off, and also any monitoring that might have gone on of that common frequency in the vfr corridor in the hudson river. all of that will be part of our investigation, but it's really too early to tell what, if any, might be a specific piece of information. we're going to have to see what we find. and we're very interested in the witnesses that might have any video, surveillance video, or other footage to come forward. >> very congested corridor as you know.
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from what i understand there are different rules for different altitudes there. what are the rules you can think of judging by where you think this accident would've happened, the altitude it would have happened. what are the rules for say flying at 1,000 feet, flying at 2,000 feet? >> well, i think the rules vary, we need to look at this air space as very complex. there's a vfr corridor, and the helicopter would have been operating within those rules. we need to see what those rules are. and it's a see and be seen environment if you're vfr corridor. there's a lot of class b air space, restricted air space around the airports. there are four major airports right here in the immediate vicinity in addition to a number of other airports. we need to check and see what the aircraft that departed, what rules they were operating under and what their altitude requirements were.
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>> roughly speaking judging on what you know right now, can you classify this as a bad traffic accident where one person didn't yield to the other? or a collision that would happen on a roadway? >> well, what we can say is this is a tragedy. having two aircrafts collide over the hudson river and having no survivors is something that is a very sad event. our charge is to find out what happened and if we can make any recommendations to prevent this from happening again. we need to see what the facts tell us and if we have any immediate concerns, we will be sure to get out with those to the public. >> one last question, deborah, the air space was shut down for the investigation and recovery, is that air space still shut down? and does that affect commercial flights? >> commercial flights are continuing to operate out of the airports. we are going to have meetings this morning at 9:00, the faa will be present, we'll have
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additional discussions about any operations. obviously there's some weather today, there's some challenges for the divers and for folks who are doing investigative activities and so we'll keep your fingers crossed as that weather improves. >> you have a lot of work ahead of you. thank you and good luck with the investigation. >> thank you. all right, we want to get back to our breaking news story that we are keeping an eye on. a powerful earthquake hitting japan some 200 miles southwest of tokyo, there are no reports of injuries or damages. but the tremors could be felt across other areas around the capital. morgan neil joins us by phone from tokyo. i want to ask there in tokyo, were you able to feel the effects of this? >> reporter: the apartment building -- and i could feel the entire building shake less than
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a minute or so. the walls swaying back and forth, the plates rattling. -- in one of these earthquake-prone areas. >> we're having difficulty hearing you over that phone line. but of course, we'll try checking back in with you and get the latest on what is happening on the ground. again a 7.1 magnitude earthquake struck south of tokyo. right now no reports of any damages or casualties. but again, it is still very early on in this and at this point, there's no danger of a tsunami, but there is always the possibility of aftershock. so we are watching that story very closely. a lot going on today weather wise, especially in that part of the world. >> yeah, we've government the earthquake. you know the weather center has all of the technology to trap these kinds of things. reynolds has the specifics on that. >> that's right. over 1 million people have been evacuated from the china coast, the worst flooding they've
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experienced in 50 years, four people dead in taiwan, it's a mess over in that part of the pacific. first some video that helped tell the story in china. i think people have been doing the right thing, getting up and getting out of there as the storm has been approaching. now as we were talking yesterday, rob and i mentioned the lift, yeah, they have -- you see the heavy rainfall there, it quickens the process of erosion. we've got mud slides, all kinds of flooding taking place over there, certainly rough stuff. now, here at home, we certainly had our share of rough weather. in fact, last night, just southwest of the twin cities, it was plenty of thunderstorm activity and plenty of tornado, vortex signature popped up on radar. there's been reports of damage. i don't think there were any eyewitness reports of any visual confirmation of the tornado today. what's going to happen, the national weather service going to look around and survey the damage. they're going to have a little bit of the clean-up. and right now, and speaking of
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that, let's go right to our weather computer. i wanted you to see something. take a look at this. a couple of storms popping up in the corn belt, sioux city, you see a lot of reds and greens pop up on radar. what that means, we've got intense storms out there. that's where it's most dense in the atmosphere. you'll also notice a couple of shapes popping up. severe thunderstorm watch boxes in effect until 2:00 local time. a lot of action here, but in a few areas, namely over towards fort dodge, ames, and des moines, you don't have much. you're going to see a lot of dark clouds, those thick skies are going to be moving right in your direction as they do so, that's going to bring the heavy rainfall first, preceded by strong winds and later into the afternoon, more of that action spread into parts of chicago, michigan, could be dealing with severe thunderstorms, maybe large hail developing and the isolated tornadoes will be in the picture. also as you get back towards the finger lakes of new york and new york city, could deal with thunder boomers.
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nothing in the southeast, but hot and humid's going to be the name of the game from louisiana back in alabama, even into texas where highs are going to go back into the 90s again today, but with the high humidity, yes, feeling much warmer. temperatures in places like phoenix, going up to 106 today, 73 degrees in san francisco, you're making that trip out to alcatraz should be fine. a little bit of fog, but gone by midday. that's a look at your forecast. back to you guys at the desk. >> we're hearing they're going to have a little bit of bad weather there in new york as they're trying to search -- they search with those bodies the mid-air collision over the hudson river. it is a grim search for victims or answers. it has resumed this morning, and we'll be bringing you the updates as they happen. also the health care chaos and what that means for a president's push for reform. every head. every bite. every gallon. every shoe. every book. every cereal. well, maybe not every cereal.
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all right. so it is a make or break month for health care reform. and now the fight is out of washington and in your backyard. lawmakers are holding town hall meetings in their districts, but some, mostly democrats, can barely get a word out. >> come on. >> i'll tell you about conspiracy. it reads like something that was thought up in the early 1930s in germany. >> wow. can you hear the passion there? it was a packed meeting for iowa
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democratic senator tom harkin yesterday. reform opponents weren't the only ones in the crowd, but they may have been the loudest. harkin repeated the democrats' line that these disruptions are a coordinated effort by reform opponents. conservatives have encouraged people to come out. the republican party, though, denies any responsibility. in fact, many in these crowds will tell you they just want their voices heard. >> i think he heard that there's a lot of people out here angry that congress proposes bills, doesn't read them, and then when the people out here read them, congress gets angry that we're reading the bills. >> i think when people get the right information and they know what we're trying to do and how this is going to all wash out, i'm not saying 100% the american people before it, but the vast majority of the american people will see this as a good thing to change the system that we have. >> well, the health care reform debate also has fuelled highly organized efforts to lobby lawmakers.
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cnn photo journalist has one search effort in the shadow of the capital's dome. >> here we are for health care for america. >> this is a huge undertaking. right now we are in upper senate park in front of -- i'm julie and we're going to be positioning you folks throughout the upper senate park. it's going to be a great rally. ♪ we want, we want health care >> we've got many, many groups volunteering their folks. the main responsibility will be to keep the sidewalks clear. why am i doing this? because i support health care for all, i think it's a right and i think this is the pivotal time in our history to make sure we guarantee that. we've got almost 65 buses coming in the next two to three hours. i think we have people coming from as far as hawaii. >> three bus loads from west virginia. >> some of them will be going to town halls to meet with senators. ♪ come senators and congress people it's time you listen to the voters ♪
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>> health care now. ♪ we want, we want health care >> there's more of you than we expected, which is what a movement's about. >> when you go to europe, you get health care from cradle to grave and here in america, the richest nation in the world and you've got millions of people who don't have health care. if you lose your job, you lose your health care, you get divorced, you lose your health care. it's basic stuff. >> we need to work together to pass universal health care. there is no option but a public option. >> thank you. >> got to hand it to them, we want health care tune. >> that's kind of catchy. >> that'll do the job right there. health care, unemployment, the mexican summit. the president's list of priorities seems to go on and on. >> yes, it does, and we have the latest on that when we check in with "state of the union's" john
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and john king makes it happen for several hours on sunday. >> "state of the union" at the top of the hour. and i know you're going to be talking about health care reform. seems like we've all been talking about it. and pushing and shoving taking place at town hall meetings. what kind of impact is this having on the president's plan for health care? >> that is the question of august. the president did not get the house or the senate to act by his deadline. he wanted bills passed before the lawmakers went home and that's one of the reasons why, he wanted it in the bank before they got a chance to go home and face the constituents. you see the protests and town halls, some complaints from democrats that this is all organized and orchestrated by opponents of health care reform. you're seeing democracy in action. sometimes it's loud and contentio contentious, and the big question is when they come back. do they come back and say, mr. president, we can't spend that
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much money or you can't have that much government reach into the health care system. that will be the question we're trying to settle in washington when they all come back in a few weeks. >> they're certainly getting an earful. some good news on the economy front this week. a little drop in unemployment. you think that can give the president a little bit of lee way when he's trying to shore up his plan? >> it's a tough one, rob, because the president is so happy to have this glimmer of hope. 250,000 americans nearly lost their jobs last month. that's 247,000 lost their jobs last month. that's a surprising drop, it is a glimmer of hope for the president who wants to tell the american people, look, we're bottoming out, and he would like to have the american people say your policies, mr. president, have something to do with the fact that we appear to be hitting the bottom and starting to come up. what americans feel most of all are the loss of jobs. they don't have the money in their pockets, they're worried about losing their job and that
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is affecting not only the president's approval rating and his standing on the economy, it's affecting the other debates because americans are uneasy and they start to worry about government spending and start to worry a little bit about their political leadership. >> and as we've seen in the town hall meetings, they start to speak up. we talk about the economy, talk about health care, the president's got a lot on his agenda, but he's also going to mexico, what can we expect to see from this trip? >> well, we're excited to see his ambassador on the show. we do spend so much time on the domestic challenges, we tend to forget the global challenges. in mexico, he's going to talk about better cooperation with mexico and canada when the swine flu comes back later this year. everyone expects another increase in the swine flu. he'll also talk about the deadly drug violence in mexico and the president of mexico wants more help, both from a demand side on this side of the border, but also more financial assistance so he can combat the drugs, but there are a number of questions,
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betty and rob, in the united states congress as the president of mexico takes this action, have there been human rights abuses? and the biggest question on the table in the hemisphere is the economy. mexico and canada depend so much on the strength of the united states economy for their own exports and that will be topic one. >> yeah, no doubt. >> lots of topics to chat about it. john king always has nice conversations with interesting people. coming up at the top of the hour, "state of the union," tune in about 30 minutes. investigators have returned to the scene of that midair collision over the hudson river in new york. we'll have the latest on the search for the remaining victims from the small plane and tourist helicopter. plus, few religions have been as misunderstood as islam.
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a tourist helicopter and small plane collide over the hudson river. cnni-reporters are showing us just how close they were to the crash. and we also have some new information this morning, but first we do want to welcome you back to cnn sunday morning. >> great to have you. this morning, right to it. in new york, much of the crash investigation is now in the hands of divers. they are resuming their search for victims and answers in the hudson river. cnn national correspondent susan candiotti is on the new jersey side of that river and joins me now from hoboken. i understand they're pulling more debris out of the river as we speak. >> reporter: not only that, betty, but it also appears that they may be also recovering another victim. now, we cannot say that precisely, however, we can tell you it does appear to be the case. we have seen very close video of what's going on right now and we see that the divers very
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gingerly, very, very carefully have been out over the scene of the wreckage where the helicopter is beneath the surface of the hudson river. and they have been working with a white bag and have been bringing something up from below, placing that on that rubberized raft and carefully transporting this over to the new york city police boat, which is there receiving debris as well as any victims that have been recovered. so we can tell you that does appear to be the case. again, these divers have been working very carefully since early this morning. bringing up both debris as well as it would appear, possibly, another victim. we're waiting naturally for confirmation of that, but we can see very obviously what has been going on. we will also like to show you now pictures taken just before this, new video, and this is of a piece of metal also taken from
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what is believed to be the debris field where the he helicopter wreckage is located. is it a frame? a piece of the helicopter? we can't say for sure, they also brought that up and moved that over to the boat that is situated as sort of a platform from where the divers are working. earlier today on newsroom sunday morning, an ntsb investigator who was in charge of the scene here talked with cnn about all of the work that they're doing. >> we're looking very closely at any air traffic control communications that might have occurred between the tower, the aircraft that had just taken off, and any monitoring that might have gone on from the common frequency of the corridor over the hudson river. all of that will be part of our investigation, but it's really too early to tell what, if any, might be a specific piece of information. we're going to have to see what we find.
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and we're very interested in any witnesses that might have any video, surveillance video or any other footage to come forward. >> nine people are believed to have been killed in this crash. there were three people aboard the small plane, there were six people aboard the sightseeing helicopter. divers are still trying to locate where the small plane is, it's in the vicinity of the helicopter, but you can tell this work is very, very hard, very, very difficult. >> no doubt. susan candiotti joining us live. you've been covering this since the beginning of it. we do appreciate it. thank you. outside of los angeles right now, officials are trying to diffuse a riot that broke out last night at a california institution for men in chino. 40 inmates were hurt and taken to hospitals, flames have been shooting from one of the prison buildings. police and firefighters are on the scene. the prison itself is a medium-security facility that houses 4,300 inmates.
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in china a massive evacuation underway, nearly 1 million people trying to get out of the path of a typhoon. after releasing torrential rains. and we wanted to show you this, that building as it toppled over and the island has seen the worst flooding in 50 years. at least one person was killed in taiwan and more than two dozens missing. let's get you over to reynolds wolf in the weather center. i know you have been watching not only this, but there has been a report of an earthquake in japan. >> absolutely, 7.1 off the coast of japan. great news there's no sign of a tsunami. not unusual in that part of the world to get those kind of issues. but it's been rough in that part of the pacific. the typhoons, earthquakes and a tornado here at home. in fact, last night in the twin cities, we've got video to show you some of the aftermath of a possible tornado that struck in the evening hours, the most
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dangerous time to have a twister when you can't see with the low visibility, the dark skies, you can have all kinds of damage. that's a heavily wooded area where this alleged twister took place. they've got damage to deal with today. a lot of people were taking action, no reports of injuries, that is certainly great news. in the meantime, we have the threat of severe weather again today, a slight risk going to take place, possibly in parts of the northeast where we've seen some scattered showers and popping up in areas like philadelphia. you're going to notice on radar, areas we happen to see red and orange. that's your heaviest rainfall moving south of philadelphia this time. now, in spots like allentown, you're going to be in clear for the bit. but if you look farther back towards the west, more development, possibly the eruption of more thunderstorms. so we could see in some areas with poor drainage, the ground's already saturated, you might have runoff and the potential flash flooding. stay advised. and that's not the only area we could see this occur, possibly back into new york state, even
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back into the corn belt and in the front range of the rockies this afternoon, we could see the development of large hail. it could be a very active day for you weather wise. farther to the south, not much to see, but plenty to feel. for the texas coastline, back over to spots like the bay, the florida keys, for high temperatures in the spots like miami are going up into the 90s, 90 degrees for miami. you know how it is in central florida, right along the i-4 corridor, temperatures into the 90s, temperatures are one thing, the humidity's going to make it feel triple digits. the same can be said for dallas, 96 in phoenix. that's a wrap on your forecast. >> man, feeling like summer. >> sure is. you've got to see this story. they are the children of war. a holy war, and they are being trained to kill. >> cnn's christiane amanpour looks at the youngest generation of suicide bombers. their stories in their own words. from american express... it's the official card... largest airline. of the world's
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it has become a feeding ground for the next generation of taliban suicide bombers. so, how does it work? how does the recruiting begin? well, christiane amanpour answers those questions this morning as our focus turns to religion and a special investigation. >> reporter: you will find my body in little pieces sings one young boy in this taliban propaganda video. it's targeting children, celebrating suicide. the taliban recruits its young martyrs on the pakistan-afghan border. he was one of them. >> my dad was teaching me a couple pages of the quoran. >> reporter: his father sent him to a madrasa when he was 10
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years old, but they didn't realize what else lay in store for him. >> i was studying when i finished resiting. they told me to go commit a suicide attack. when i said, i am not going, he forced me. >> reporter: when he was 14, he was smuggled into afghanistan through an underground network by people he had never met to a destination he didn't know. >> i still don't know what type of suicide attack they had planned for me. i still don't know whether god says it was good or bad. >> reporter: the afghan police arrested him before he could complete his mission and now sitting in an afghan jail he wonders if he'll ever see his family again. >> i miss my mom and dad.
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>> i think in some ways we have -- the al qaedas of the world who are messaging to those young people in sharp and direct ways. >> reporter: a muslim who grew up in america feeling like an outsider understands the path to extremism. he's now a white house adviser on muslim youth. >> it's not a question of them being ideologically attracted to the message of extremism, it's a question of that's where the jobs are, that's where the school is, that's where the free lunch program is. i think that one of the central issues of the 21st century is that we will rise or fall on them rising or falling. >> and you just saw him profiled in that report, he is a white house adviser on the muslim religion, also an author, and works with young people from various religious backgrounds to help them serve others.
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i want to thank you joining us live from chicago this morning. let's get to the root of this. why, exactly, is the taliban targeting children to become suicide bombers? why so young? >> the taliban sees these kids as the embodiment of hate. sees them as bomb of destruction. i see these kids as the embodiment of hope. i see them as the bridges of cooperation. i think we need to look at these young people as the future doctors, scientists, and potato poets. too often the taliban school is the only school in town, or the health clinic in town and parents feel effectively forced to send their kids there. that doesn't have to be the case. >> let me ask you this, do those parents know when they send their children there that they're essentially handing them over to the taliban? >> well, i think very often parents don't understand that and don't understand the full extent of that. the taliban also forces a lot of these kids to be involved. we're not talking about religion here, we're talking about a sick
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group of people who are injecting their poison into young children. >> what kind of tactics are they using? >> well, they use the tactics of force, use the tactics of being the only institution in town. the thing here is that there are tactics we can be using. those of us who believe in a world where people are coming together to build understanding and cooperation, we can build schools, we can build health clinics, we can build religious education programs that taught me what my parents and educators taught me, which is islam a learning of peace. >> but the taliban has the only school in that particular area, do these children have much of a choice? and what kind of impact does it have on a child when they're essentially sent to strangers and told you're going to go and do this, but you're going to do this in the name of religion? >> betty, the challenge of the 21st century is going to be giving these children a choice. they would want to be doctors, they would want to be scientists, they would want to be poets, they would want to believe in islam as a message of
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peace and cooperation. we cannot forfeit these children to the talibans of the world. that's exactly the point. we need to be giving these young people an alternative path so they can be the embodiment of hope. that's what organizations like my group, the interfaith youth corps are all about. we need to invest in those organizations, invest in these kids in a greater way than the taliban is. >> that sounds great. but let me ask you that. in reality, how many of these schools that you talk about, these alternatives are actually in place for these children? >> betty, we can build more and we have to build more, and that's what, i think, that the early part of the 21st century is going to be about. rebuilding institutions to help make young people around the world the embodiment of hope or are we forfeiting them to the sources that seek them to be the embodiment of hate? i think it's that simple and i think unfortunately sometimes people on the other side are winning because they're investing more, but that doesn't have to be the case.
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>> all right. executive director of interfaith youth corps, thanks for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> sure. it is cnn's revealing investigation into the heart of a generation at the cross roads. christiane amanpour reveals the struggle for hearts and minds of the next generation of muslims and how what happens in gaza and afghanistan impacts all of us. that is thursday night 8:00 eastern only on cnn. and back here, we want to talk about those town hall meetings because they're normally used for forums, civilized discussions. >> conversations between you and your congressmen. >> exactly. >> sometimes they get out of control, at least they have been lately. >> not really business as usual lately. >> florida to texas, michigan to missouri, passions running high, tempers are flaring, and the spirit of debate rage about health care reform.
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well, congress is on its recess, but voters are on the offensive. and august is shaping up to be a make or break month for health care reform. in arizona, protestors railed against the measure outside the office of democratic congressman harry mitchell. they say the reforms are too costly and too intrusive. and reform supporters are also making their voices heard too elsewhere, they clash with opponents in memphis, tennessee, yesterday in a town hall meeting
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with congressman steven -- health care reform wasn't even on the agenda, in the end, that was all anybody wanted to talk about. >> i don't think people should be penalized because the pre-existing illnesses. i really don't. i think health care should be a universal right. >> police had to call in extra help to handle the crowd of about 500 people. i want to get you back now to breaking news that we're keeping our eyes on. a powerful earthquake has struck in japan. some 200 miles southwest of tokyo to be exact. but the tremors could be felt across other areas around the capital. morgan neil on the phone from tokyo. have you heard anything about casualties or damages that caused because of this earthquake? >> reporter: well, thankfully at this point, no reports thus far of casualties or damages. but this was as you say a powerful quake. i can tell you i felt it myself here in the apartment building where i am on the 11th floor,
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the walls shook back and forth, the plates shook, i got under a load-bearing wall. and just to show you how accustomed the japanese people are to this sort of thing. as i'm doing this, there are people taking the elevator up and down. of course, something no one should be doing as this is going on. nevertheless, japan's meteorological agency said the quake shook tokyo. but importantly they say there is no danger of tsunami from this quake. >> well, what about aftershocks? is anything being done to get people out of harm's way should you feel another tremor? >> reporter: no, at this point, we haven't felt any tremors and i've been out on the streets here in the neighborhood where i am, and i can't emphasize enough how much this feels like business as usual here. just because japan is right along one fault line and has another fault line that intersects the country and this is something they deal with on a
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fairly regular basis and while the magnitude certainly sounds very, very powerful, this was a good ways away from tokyo. and so while i shook buildings here, to this point, people are taking it very much in stride. >> all right. international correspondent morgan neill live from tokyo with the latest on the earthquake there. morgan, thank you. >> stay with us. we're coming right back. you could buy 300 bottles of water. or just one brita filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet.
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japan. he filed this report earlier saying what works and what doesn't in cuba's clinics. >> is there a doctor here in cuba? >> reporter: when michael moore's film "sicko" came out in 2007, it put cuba's health care system under the microscope. pointed out that the poor island gave its people universal health care, something the united states doesn't do. critics charge that conditions in cuban hospitals are appalling and the cubans had to pay bribes to get decent care. how does health care work in cuba? it's not an easy question to answer. but there are some impressive statistics. according to the world health organization, cuba's life expectancy is 78 years, the same as chile and costa rica. in line with those of canada. this clinic a community outside havana is one of the country's
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newest and best equipped. it serves a population of some 15,000 people. the director tells us under one roof she has dentists, general practitioners, physical therapy, medicines and vaccines. >> this clinic is really a symbol of what cuba wants to do with health care all over the country. the machinery is new, the walls freshly painted, it's an idea where the country wants to go, the future of its health care. >> reporter: all of it free of charge. how does cuba do it? first of all, the government dictates salaries. doctors earn less than $30 per month, very little compared to doctors elsewhere. and priorities given to avoiding expensive procedures says gail reid who has lived and worked in cuba for decades. >> they concentrate on prevention, they concentrate on bringing services closer to people's homes so that the big ticket items don't really take
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up, don't sponge up all of that small budget they have. >> reporter: but cuba's system certainly has its problems. many hospitals and emergency rooms are , health officials admit the system isn't perfect, but, they say, no one falls through the cracks. morgan neill, cnn, havana. >> very interesting and we do appreciate you watching today and, rob, it's been a pleasure working with you this weekend. >> i enjoyed it, as well. and welcome back once again. >> thank you very much. and at the top of the hour, we have john king with "state of the union." outside of los angeles, at least 40 inmates have been hurt in rioting at a california institution for men in chino, that violence erupted last night. flames, as you can see right here in this video have been seen shooting from one of the prison's il
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