>> a new weapon in the fight against colon cancer. researchers are saying that aspirin may be able to extend the lives of people with colon cancer. we will have more. >> we begin this morning with president obama taking his message to the people, and it is clear he faces an uphill battle. the crowd was civil in new hampshire, but that was not the

case in missouri and pennsylvania where town hall meetings turned chaotic. security officers forced to step in and remove the crowd. >> if you want out of here, you are welcome to go. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. >> okay. okay. we have just. >> we have just had a demonstration of democracy. okay? >> i don't understand the rudeness. what is this? i don't get it. i honestly don't get it. do you think you are persuading people when you shout like that? you don't trust me? okay. you know, i don't know what else i can do.

i don't know what else i can do. if you want me to go home -- >> in new hampshire, the audience was mostly polite as the president tried to make his case. protesters were kept outside across the street. jim, not the usual shouting and shoving but the president has a tough job on his hands. >> now we know why many democrats wanted to get health care done before the august recess. the longer the debate goes on, the toughest the sale gets. even the president is being forced to take on some of the most outrageous claims coming from reform opponents. >> a little girl is holding a sign that says obama lies grandma dies. >> with this health care, they won't care for elderly and older

people probably as well as private insurance. >> sit a reference to the false claim made by some reform opponents that they would create a bureaucratic death panel. the president confronted the rumor. >> the rumor that has been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the house of representatives voted for death panels that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we have decided that we don't -- it's too expensive to let her live any more. i am not in favor of that. >> as the president tried to turn down the heat inside the town hall -- >> let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to things that have

been proposed. >> tempers flared outside the event. police kept supporters and opponents of reform on opposite sides of the street. >> we will make sure that the right wing does not destroy the truth. >> if this government health care program goes through, then my small business will suffer even more. >> one protester actually brought his handgun to the event. because he had a permit, police allowed him to stay. >> will you keep that holstered when the president comes by? >> of course. i like my life. >> with the august town halls turning into carnivals for the white house, the question is whether these events are changingn william anderson asked whether reform plans would set limits on more expensive drugs. >> saying one thing is something

and doing it is something else. >> the president has not sold you yet? >> the president will try again with two more town halls. in colorado, it is on the front line of the health care reform. >> i saw someone commenting on the internet suggesting that he was brave because he probably spent all day in the secret service cross hairs. >> it was amazing to see how relaxed the atmosphere was around the man. we were surprised to see him there. he had a permit to carry this weapon and the gentleman at the church allowed him to stay there. it was an extraordinary sight. they said they thought everything was under control. >> absolutely within the law. jim, thanks so much for that.

the debate over health care reform also being waged on our hot line. here is some of what you were saying. >> people should sit down and listen to each other because yelling and shouting obviously is not getting us anywhere. >> i am a protester that is supposedly paid to go to these things. i am scared to death about losing my health care. i don't like anything about the bill. >> why aren't people yelling and screaming about the fact that insurance companies are making life and death decisions for them right now. >> do we need reform? yes. but it needs to be the right kind of reform that will take care of everyone and right now i am not convinced that this is what we need, and it's very, very scary. >> i feel like this is a death row country. i hope the senate has a wonderful vacation this summer. >> to hear from more of you, call our show hotline or drop us

a line on our website. >> also developing right now, a u.s. army private is under arrest this morning accused of being a contract killer for a mexican drug cartel. the 18-year-old soldier is one of three men charged with murdering a mid level cartel member who was also a dea informant. a lot of surprise to hear about this one. >> reporter: this is just another chilling example of the influence and power of the growing strength of the mexican drug cartel even across the border into the united states. these three men one of them a young soldier in the u.s.army accused of carrying out a deadly hit. this 18-year-old still wearing his uniform, officers say he

fired the shot that killed this man. the shooting victim was a mid level member of the juraez drug cartel but also an informant for american federal agents. >> we do feel this was retribution for the fact that the deceased person had pretty much gotten the person in trouble in juarez. consequently this was the rest bugs for that arrest. >> acourting to court documents, apodaca was paid by the member of a juarez cartel. they discovered the victim was talking to american authorities. >> i want to stress this was a pay back situation and not something that is an ongoing battle like you see in mexico right now.

even though this could be considered over, we don't look at it in the same way as it is occurring in mexico. >> michael apodoca joined the army early. when his family says they don't believe the charges against him. >> he was in the top of his class, he talked to all his sergeants. he is a good soldier. before he went in, he was in with a bad crowd. >> this really highlight asterable problem along the border. for years we talked about how drug cartels corrupted authorities. and there is a growing sense of concern that that influence might be growing and spreading on to the u.s. side as well. >> just the sound. thank you. nine and a half minutes after the hour. this is one you really want to listen to. it has been used for more than a

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♪ welcome back to the most news in the morning. 15 minutes past the hour. we have heard the noise and now we are looking for answers. there has been a lot of rage and anger at the health care town hall meetings taeking place across the country. katie abrams is a 35-year-old stay-at-home mom who showed up last night in pennsylvania. and her comments and questions really struck a nerve. >> i am only 35 years old. i have never been interested in politics. you have awakened the sleeping giant. according to the constitution, what are you going do to restore the country back to the way the founders created it. >> after she asked the question, people giving her a standing

ovation. katie joins me now. thanks for being with me. did you know at the time when you showed up to ask the question that that would be the response from people in the crowd? >> no. i didn't know that was the question i was going ask, to be honest with you. >> and you talked about this. you said that you are a conservative and a republican but not somebody really into politics, the day-to-day politicking out there. what made your change your mind when you told the senator you awakened a sleeping giant? how did that happen? >> over the past couple months i have seen in the news how they were doing the t.a.r.p. package and trying to bail out banks and auto companies, and i saw a lot of really reckless things and the next thing i see is the health care -- nationalized health care. that really was the nail in the coffin for me, i guess you could

say. that woke me up. >> what is your health care situation? we said you are a stay-at-home mom? how many kids do you have? are you covered? >> i have a 7-year-old daughter, a little 4-year-old named sam. they will love that. and we have a health savings account. we are self-employed and we pay for our own. we have a high deductible. we pay out towards our insurance every month and typically every year we are paying for our own health care, doctors visits and everything yourselves. >> do you think that held care could be improved? >> absolutely. i am not -- i don't know everything about health care. i know that it's not a perfect system. but i don't necessarily believe that having the government in

control of it is the solution. i have never seen them do anything that has worked. so the last thing i want them to have control of is my held care. >> you said what are you going do to restore this country back to what our founders created according to the constitution. what did you mean by that? >> what i meant by that is when -- from the little bit that i have read, you know, i am not -- was never a history major. this was new to me. i have been reading about the founders and the constitution. and the founders did not look to the government as being the solution for the problems in this country. it doesn't say in the constitution give out free health care to people. bail out the auto companies. the people in the country can be self-sufficient and take care of ourselves. i am just looking for the government to get out of the

way. >> were you happy with the response you got? >> you know, honestly, i think that the true response will be what happens when this bill is brought over to the senate. my understanding is that it is in congress right now so it has not necessarily crossed the line over into the senate. so the proof is in the pudding. we will see what he does. >> the thing is that when he hear from you and we heard from you at the town hall forrum, you were expressing an opinion and wanted to get questions to your leaders. as you can see things have certainly gotten out of control. we have seen people super imposing pictures of hitler. how do you think that the debate spiralled out of control that now people are claiming there are death panels where you will be judged and if you are deemed not worthy to be saved, you will

not be worthy for health care. how do we get past that to the valid concerns? >> i think -- my opinion is that i think this has gotten so out of control because, we are looking at two separate parties. the democrat party and republican party. i have been a member of both. now i look at them and they seem exactly the same to me. i don't see a difference. i don't see anybody standing up for the people of this country. could you ask me the question again? i am nervous. >> you did a great job. we were just trying to figure out, i guess, where all of it turned, you know, so -- >> sour? >> yeah. where things went off the reservation. this town hall, there was a police presence at that one. security had to chase people out. people were yelling back and forth. why?

>> the town hall that i attended, i was so proud of the people there and people from surrounding communities that had come there. any time somebody would try to speak up and be loud who wasn't on the microphone, you would hear a hush across the crowd. the last thing, you know, those of us who feel the same way i do, we don't want to be disrespectful. we don't want to be the angry mob. we just want to be heard by our senator. that's all that we are asking. you know, i am not somebody that is going go in there and, you know, i don't know, cause trouble. all i wanted to do was go in there and ask my question. >> and we saw some of the video that you shot as well. thank you for joining us this morning and thanks for coming on and speaking about this. great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> let's hope the kids are watching. >> i am sure they are. >> is the recession over?

we don't know about that. but christine is back and she joins us coming up next. naing onon ud r.

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>> economists saying the economy will start to move again conservatives and republicans say this is a waste of money and a sugar rush. let's look. this is what it looks like in the first quarter of '08. and four quarters of negative growth. now they are forecasting 2.4% growth. take a look at the stock market. what does it feel like if we do get a recovery. there probably won't be much

question about that. even the folks saying that the recession is over saying that it will not feel pretty good for a lot of people. >> so the recovery may not be much of a recovery at all? >> many say a jobless recovery. and i will point out that the research is an official ar by tore of when the recession ends. we will tell you for sure. we have been in recession since december 2007. we are almost double the average recession. that is why you have seen people so upset at the town halls. this has people unsettled.

>> at least it wasn't a depression. >> there crow go. thanks so much. new developments in the michael jackson case. are police going file charges or do they have anything at all? we will find out. 28 minutes now after the hour.

welcome back to the most news in the morning. president obama is said to have misspoke. yesterday the president said, "we have the aarp on board because they know this is a good

deal for our seniors." but the organization has said that the organization has not endorsed any health care reform bi bill. >> they are trying to get control of the area one week before the country holds its presidential eletkemanns. two were wounded by a roadside bomb yesterday. >> also in the federal gm wa government wants to know how passengers were stranded for hours. this was a continental express flight scheduled to go from houston to minneapolis. passengers were stuck on the small plane for nearly 12 hours without food or water. no working bathrooms after a while as well before reaching their final destination. roy lahood says they are veging whether any laws were proeken.

>> it appears that authorities are still building a case against michael jackson's personal doctor in connection with jackson's death. they raided a vegas pharmacy that sold the deadly drug. there are reports that he gave jackson this drug the day he died. agents searched the home and office. are they any closer to an arrest? we have a former prosecutor who also defended anesthesiologists. what do you make of the fact that they are out there yesterday searching the supply? this is after not releasing the toxicology reports. >> there are also reports about the doctor's personal life. he had severe financial problems. there are reports he was deeply in debt. the focus now is getting tighter

and they are looking to the pharmaceutical supply places to show that he was getting drugs, deadly drugs, prescribing them to michael jackson and that the prescriptions may have caused his death. >> he died six weeks ago and dr. murray is still the prescribe suspect. the fact that it has gone on for six weeks and they haven't charged him, what does that say about the case. you would think if they had an air-tight case they would have charged him by now. >> when you try to charge a doctor with a form of manslaughter, you have got to show that the doctor acted with gross recklessness. no one is going claim that he killed jackson, so you have to prove gross recklessness in the prescription of drugs. that is really hard. patients occasionally die from them. here you have to show that the

doctor should have known that jackson was an addict. >> have any of the doctors you have defended been involved in a criminal case? >> i have represented three anesthesiologists this week involved with this drug in depositions. but it is routinely used. >> malpractice cases? >> yes. cases where something goes wrong during the procedure and somebody dies. nobody would think about bringing a case here. here the claim is that he was hired at great expense to the jackson estate to prescribe drugs to him. >> does he have an out here in terms of defense? i am asking you to put on your defense hat here. is this a controlled substance? >> i don't know that will help him ultimately.

a drug being listed as a controlled substance means that the federal government monitors dispensing of the drug a lot more carefully. even a non-controlled substance could be used in a grossly reckless way. a little harder but it can be done. >> what about the pharmacy. if he was coming in here saying here is my prescription and the pharmacy was dispensing. but if the pharmacy was kplis it? could they be charged? >> they always have the excuse, a doctor prescribed this. it is not our job to second guess. the pharmacy doesn't know. unless they are on the take or there is bribery or something going on in the background, it is a hard case against the pharmacy. probably the focus is going to stay on dr. murray. >> thank you. >> and still ahead, we will be talking about mapping your world. how all the maps and information

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we will hear from him in his own words. it is okay to admit that you would probably be lost without your gps. the only problem is if the gps gives me directions to a certain location and they take me a weird way i never know how to do it the right way. >> you never look at the map to learn new ways to go? you ever wonder how your gps gets all that information? we found out and he shows you here. >> you can thank the strange looking vehicle the next time you don't get lost. this atlas mobile mapping van uses cameras, gps and lasers to digitally record the road and everything on it.

it is one of a handful of companies. they sell their maps to partners and customers like google, mab quest and tom tom. >> our ultimate goal is to map the entire world. >> a user can take this device and say i want to make a correction. it might be a small village or town. a new one way street going in. they can quickly provide the information to us. >> what's next is cooler. keep an eye out for 3d in a few years. >> lit match what they have in the real world. >> we are talking about wasting health care. how much do you think that is worth? >> sit a staggering number. it is something that a lot of

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stories making headlines today. the president and first lady host a reception for supreme court justice sonya sotomayor and then the medal of freedom ceremony. there will be 16 recipients. secretary of state hillary clinton stopped in nigeria today. rampant corruption in the industry and religious clashes that have taken place lately. and the fed is expected to keep interest rates near historic lows, almost near zero. and most say that the recession is over if surveyed. don't hold your breath but looks like finally some light at the end of the tunnel. >> and what kind of shape the recovery takes is unknown.

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some soft these storms could be heavy at times. if you are traveling in this area, be aware. downpours for sure. 81 in new york and 82 in chicago. before we wrap things up, something that is light enough for you, two. probably not real but you look and decide for yourself. he built a water slide and he goes for a ride on it. look where he lands. >> unbelievable. >> how does that not hurt? >> let's see. the shot never cuts. never cuts away. never cuts away. the water splashes but the pool never moves. well over a million hits on

youtube. >> he can't believe he actually did it. he was gasping for air. if you hear it. and his buddy also, they can't believe that he actually did it. >> it is called acting. >> there are people who get shot and look like they are diagnose. >> very good editing. >> in that one there were no edits. >> i want to believe it, too. i do. but these computers make things happen. >> check it ou on youtube.

>> you don't like either of them. this whole time this has been fake? >> there is a santa claus. >> and an elmo. >> last week rob was at the world's biggest yard sale. he was at the world oyo-yo contest. we want you to decide where rob will go next. >> what is he riding? >> somehow i think having our viewers pick where rob goes will have a bad outcome. >> he should go cedar point. >> he is in ohio. what the heck. >> i could see rob with a funnel cake. >> me, too. >> uh-huh. and a fake poly's girl with a be beer. >> i think that was the world's

biggest slip and slide and that dude really landed in the pool. >> how much money are we wasting on health care. tom is crunching the numbers for you. coming up now on ten minutes before the top of the hour.

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over and burned by angry fat kids. welcome back to the most news in the morning. if we are serious about reforming health care we should get serious about reforming the way we live. and doctors and insurance companies may need to consider reforming the way they do business. no one seems to be focussed on. >> john, this study identifies what it calls three key areas of massive waves and the first one is us. medical problems related to obesity cost our medical care system $200 billion a year.

the second big zest clinical problems. if cost of all that? more than $90 billion. sometimes doctors overcharge because they can make money and because they are so afraid of lawsuits that they order many tests and procedures just to protect against accusations that they overlook something.

and finally waste in operational cost. just the papers to collection from insurance companies cost up to $10 bm a year. all of these combined area add up to $1.2 trillion in waste. more than half of all of our health spending. john, karen? >> pretty incredible numbers. that can somehow be tackled first, can you imagine? there would be money to insure people who need it most. >> that is more than the cost of the ten-year plan.

>> they are hoping to get some savings out of it. >> still ahead, you might have seen congressman scott on our show. in the end, here is what he sees. he is going join us to talk about what is going on with this health care debate and why things have turned so nasty. 56 minutes past the hour. rewrite your hair's past and give it a whole new life.

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>> we have seen the arguments, the fights, protesters lining the streets. now after a heating exchange, one congressman found this outside of his office.

>> has the national debate really come to this? >> this is a distraction. >> georgia congressman said his staff found this painted outside his office tuesday morning. his office has also received offensive faxes. >> there is no question about that. they have a right to do it. that is very, very important. this is america. this is rough and tumble. that is what we are here for.

so there is no problem with that. but this is something else. >> another congressman in washington state has cancelled public meetings after he says he received death threats. he believes the president needs to be the one to step up and keep the heated debate from crossing the line. >> he has to really speak strongly to tamper this down before somebody really gets hurt at one of these things. >> the fbi, local police departments and the u.s. capitol police have all gotten involved into the investigation into who may have painted that. >> we will be speaking live with congressman david scott. and once again, welcome. good morning. glad to have you with us. >> good morning to you. i am john roberts. a lot going on this morning and here are the stories we are breaking down for you. president obama's road show to

sell health care reform. the crowd orderly and polite yesterday but in pennsylvania and missouri, town halls turned ugly. we will go beyond the sound bites to find out why so many people are so angry. >> an american soldier kerveing his country and allegedly mexico's drug lords. an 18-year-old accused of being a hit man for a mexican drug cartel. ed is live with the violent new reality of the drug war. it has been used for more than a krntry. now a harvard study on aspirin says it can be a lifesaver for people with colon cancer. the findings could be "revolutionary". and we begin with president obama trying to calm fears. he is on a road show taking his message straight to the people. the president holding a on the

haul meeting. security officers removed members of the office when things got too tense. >> you are welcome to go. now payment. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. >> one day god is going stand before you and he is going judge you and the rest of your cronies up on the hill. >> okay. okay. we have just had a demonstration of democracy. okay. >> i don't understand the rudeness. what is this? i don't get it. i honestly don't get it. do you think that you are persuading people when you sout out like that.

you don't trust me? i don't know what else i can do. i don't know what else i can do. if you want me to go home -- >> in new hampshire, the audience was polite. so as we are talking about the make or break month. the president had a tough sell on his hands. this was largely much more civil than that. was anybody able to come to this one as well? >> this was not a hand-picked crowd and the white house has said that repeatedly. folks were allowed to go online and have paying tickets to the event. and i think we now all know why many democrats wanted to get health care reform done before the august recess. the longer this goes on, the harder the sell gets. the president was forced to confront some of the more

outrageous claims coming from reform opponents. the debate over health care reform has come to this. a little girl holding a sign that says obama lies, grandma dice. >> what does that mean? >> they will not take care of the elderly people probably as well as they do now with private insurance. >> reporter: this was created when it was rumored that they would create a bureaucratic death panel. >> the rumor that has been circulating a lot is that the idea that somehow the house of rep sentives voted for death panels that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we have decided that we don't --

it's too expensive to let her live any more. i am not in favor of that. >> tempers flared outside the event. police kept supporters and opponents of reform on the opposite sides of the streets. >> everybody is well aware of everything that is going on in this building. >> if this health care program goes through, then my small business will suffer more. police allowed him to stay. >> will you keep that holstered when the president comes by? >> of course. i like my life.

>> in montana and colorado, those states were presidential battlegrounds. now they are the front lines for health care reform. >> thanks so much. we have seep and heard the anger and frustration. we have heard the insults being thrown around. but through all the shouting, is the message getting through? does the president have to explain that he won't pull the plug on grandma? that is what he was saying yesterday. our panel of experts weighs in. >> and a u.s. army private under

arrest this morning accused of being a krablgt killer. the 18-year-old soldier is one of three men charged with murdering a cartel member who was also a dea informant. we are live in dallas this morning. what makes this so shocking, ed, is that this fellow was allegedly working for a cartel on the mexican side of the border but the hit was on the american side of the border. >> a chilling example of the power, influence, and reach of the mexican drug cartel. there is a growing concern that the reach might be beginning to corrupt u.s. officials, authorities,or people working along the border much like we have seen for years on the mexican side. >> 18-year-old michael jackson apodoca still wearing his

military uniform when arrested. police say he fired the shot that killed this man three months ago outside his home. the shooting victim was a member of the juarez drug cartel. >> we do feel this was retribution for the fact that the death of the deceased person had pretty much gotten the person in trouble in juarez. he was arrested by federal authorities over there. so this was the retribution for that arrest. >> reporter: according to documents, apodaco was paid to carry out the hit by a member of the juarez cartel because they discovered the victim was talking to american authorities. >> i want to stress this was a pay-back situation and not something that is an ongoing type of battle like you see in

mexico right now. this can be considered to some degrees spilled over, we don't look at it in the same way. >> according to officials, michael apodoca joined the army about a year ago. but his family says they don't believe the charges against him. >> he was in the top of his class, he talked to all his sergeants. she a good soldier. before he went in, he was in with the -- a bad crowd.

could there be more people out there in the sleeper cells? more people waiting to do the bidding of one of them? >> reporter: you know, they have a ton of money to be able to pass around to do these jobs. we have reported in various other parts of the world where they have seen this happen. and there is the concern about authorities in military uniform, police uniform. helping smuggle drugs. or helping smuggled people through. sit a vast criminal enterprise. >> wow. vast sums of drug money. a volatile combination. >> aspirin may be a wonder drug

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shouting is about. >> trying to filter out the static. are the angry talking points true? digging deeper on all of this for us. >> hi. you know, the number one thing to keep in mind, there is no, and i repeat no health care reform bill ready to be voted on by both the house and senate. there is no final bill. the key house committee did pass a bill. but that is not a final bill. sit likely to change. that's why lawmakers are holding the town hall meetings that aren't kpablgtly answered questions sometimes. >> we don't trust anyone. >> if you are looking for answers about health care reform, good luck. politics, misinformation, noise is about all you seem to hear. time to quiet the noise and bust the myths -- or not. let's start with this.

death panels? true or false? seniors and babies with disabilities will have to stand in front of obama's death panel so hids bureaucrats can decide whether they are worthy of health care. >> that one is so wrong it has gotten a pants on fire rating. >> this man says false. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. >> rationing, true or false?

arguably, private health insurance plans ration. one says there is nothing in the house bill that specially addresses rationing but it is logical to assume that someone has to decide what and how much is covered. just wait until you see this done by the government. >> but government can't run big programs. critics have gone as far as drawing up a diagram of how dysfunctional it will be. no such diagram actually exists. >> if the government can run medicare why can't they run this program? >> of course if you want to cut to the chase, to the heart of what critics fear, that in the end will have universal health care or socialized medicine. they are interested in covering

those and giving americans more choices, not in driving them out of business. there are other sources to fact check what is in or not in this version. so go to our website. i have a dozen credible sites to check out what is fiction and what is fact. don't believe everything you hear out there. you just have to go the right place. >> isn't that part of the problem? there is no blueprint to say i don't like this or this? >> coming up now on 19 minutes

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>> everybody says it is crafty editing. >> so aspirin has been called a wonder drug for a long time. now they found a new use for aspirin that may be the best one of all. we have the information on that coming right up. you will want to hear about this. >> and we will talk to our political panel. the politics behind the health care. why is it so hard to have a civil debate about this issue?

>> there is news this morning that one tiny pill could help fight colon cancer and it is probably a pill that is already in your medicine cabinet. it is nothing exotic. pa patients who take an aspirin regularly cut their chances of dying by nearly one third. what is this all about? >> i love stories like this. we are talking about something that is so simple that might have a huge impack as well. this is the second leading cause of cancer death in the united states. this is a big deal. science has been focussed on ways to try to cut that down. we have known for sometime, you may have known that aspirin is pretty good at preventing colon cancer from developing in the

first place. trying to figure out what kipd of impact it might have then. this is after controlling a lot of things. people had the same sort of family history. what they found, as you said, at 29%, decreased risk of death. trying to figure out the mortality or likelihood of death. aspirin really seemed to make a difference. it is unclear exactly why but it is believed that inflammation really plays a role in accelerating some of the cancers. aspirin does this well. that may be why it works so well. as you mentioned its shape, it is probably in your medicine cabinet and could have a huge benefit. >> it was derived from the bark of a willow tree exit has become a wonder drug.

would it be wise for all adults to be taking a small daily doze? >> you are right. it costs pennies a day. it is one of those things. eating something as benign as aspirin, you still got to weigh the risks and benefits. people who take it regularly may have trouble with bleeding in the stomach. who knows. if they change the recommendations over the years. in is something a lot of doctors

in the cancer world will be paying attention to. >> particularly with family history of cancer. >> there has been a lot of evidence in the past showing that aspirin can help prevent cancer from developing in the first place. this takes it to the next step. >> the miracle pill. thanks for joining us. see you in a little while. got questions to ask you about health care. coming up, it is 7:30 in the eastern time zone. early this morning, that was before dawn. try to take back a key area in southern afghanistan before the presidential vote there. a reporter embedded says they were met with mortar rounds and rocket grenades. koes -- costa rica's president is home with the swine flu. the leader also says he suffers

from asthma and therefore the virus could pose a high risk for him. and if you have plastic from amex or discover and you are over your credit limit, you don't have oworry about a penalty fee. >> the president is taking the health care debate on the road. running into vocal protests. a little more civil debate on the inside. but here to look at the new tone about what's going on, especially at some of the other town hall debates, jennifer donahue, a contributor to the washington post and a political director is in boston this morning. we also have with us here in studio today, john avalon.

we are going show a little bit of the -- let's take a look at some of the moments of the two town halls. >> okay. okay. okay. we have just -- we just had a demonstration of democracy. >> i don't understand the rudeness. what is this? >> you hear senator really seem to just throw up her hands and say she asks do you want me to leave? why is there a lot of shouting where people can't get answers on either side? >> it is really amazing. you think really what is happen

something that the public is getting angry. obviously, and taking it out first and foremost on the congressmen and senates. we will get into that. but the bottom line is the recession is so deep right now and when congress recessed there were no details about how the plans would be paid for. i think it is creating unrest. there are a lot of people prohealth care. most people would like to see reform. there are some who are loudly oppose opposed where will the money come from? people are getting scared out there? >> and john, i want to ask you about that. most people are under -- most people seem to understand that yes the system is not quite working as well as it needs to be. there are concerns about people uninsured.

>> remember that president obama was elected on the politics of the past. we are seeing the persistence in the face of that. this is being drummed up by a couple of things. like clinton, there is the perception that president obama is governing more liberally than he campaigned. they are adding to that concern. breaking with the administration on fiscal issues, the deficit and growth of big gm. there are two new factors really stirring this pot. one is thor in net.

those things are making the debate much easier. >> he is trying to debunk the death panels saying that it will force people to make decisions about euthanasia. and the president addressed this yesterday. let's take a look. >> this idea that somehow the house of representatives voted for death panels. that will. >> he has to say that he will not pull the plug on grandma? >> this is where the debate is. one of the reasons it was probably helpful is you had opponents wearing opposition tee

shirts and they were opponents. they were the real deal. they didn't get up and yell. they felt like new hampshire, they have town hall meetings all the time. maybe we are in a belter place to hear and address issues. and you can see the rumors chasing ahead of the story. people will find out if there will be mobs outside. instead of actually trying to figure out why people are so uncomfortable. is there going be a government plan? is private insurance going to go bankrupt?

are taxes going go up? there is a reason for discomfort. >> we talked about this. there is no actual bill. there are versions circulating around. it is hard to defend against rumors of things that don't exist. where do you get things accomplished? part of the problem is the folks on the left who want to push through a bill. they are not his friends. they are working to undermine him. he needs to go back, reclaim the senate, embrace the bill that the senator has put forward that take away the public option, replace it with a non-profit. achieves the same goals. but without that that is being used for a slippery slope to sociallism. >> one thing that has happened. it is really interesting when pelosi started talking about the bill and using very devicive

loaded political terms that were absolutely unbelievable. kennedy was going be the guy on this bill. finances the committee for it. obama needs to give up the ideas that the public doesn't want. >> every major -- bill of this nature in the past whether you are talking social security, medicare, reform, they have been passed with bipartisan support. even if it passes it would be politically unsustainable in the future. >> it was indicated that obama is willing to give up on one of the key components that he is willing to actually give up on

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keeps information about computers and users. the white house says cookies facilitate communication on social websites, it would help government be more accessible and transparent. >> there can al be certain precautions taken so that people are confident that their personal internet usage patterns are not being collected and stored. >> the white house says it understands these concerns. government spokesman says that any update of current policy will balance the need to use new web technologies to open up government with the impairtive to protect privacy this comes days after some criticized a white house blog posting that advised users if you get an e-mail or see something on the web that seems fishy, e-mail us.

if the government is doing no wrong, the information center has this question. >> what's the justification for this alteration of the policy? clearly the government is intending to do something. at this point they are unable or unwilling to tell us what. >> be ware. we had a big debate in the newsroom about this one achl look at how people rated the top bands. it went up and down the generations. there were some on there. we are going show you the list. >> people were heard the scream this morning. what? no u2? no nirvana? carry underwood? what? it was a little different than

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anyone who saw paul mccartny perform this summer saw it in the audience. everyone is singing along to every song. no surprise that a new survey found that the beatles span generation. >> they found that the fab four is still the top musical act when people were asked across all generations. michael jackson was the number one pick for those over 30. people in the 30-49 bracket said eagles. the baby boomers also picking the beatles. and for over 65 was frank sinatra. >> and rock and role is the musical genre of choice for everyone turned age of 65. two-thirds say they listen to rock often or sometimes. the top five acts are elvis at number five, michael jackson at number four, number three,

johnny cash. the eagles at number two. i like the eagles just fine but better than rolling stones? and the beatles standing alone at number one. >> other notables. country -- the rolling stones were number six. franklin and carry underwood at number nine. garth brooks. >> underwood at nine? >> yeah. madonna is 17. >> i like carrie just fine but wtf with her being in the -- i din do it again, did i? >> i don't know what that means, but i will tell you. >> what the flip. what the flip is she doing in the top 20. >> i feel like guns and roses was left out. come on. guns and roses. >> they were not on the top 20. >> aerosmith should be on here.

jay waears an aero steve tyler recovers. >> was your favorite band left off the list? let us know. logon to cnn.com/am fix. >> if you're going to put garth brooks on there, you got to put on kenny chesney. >> what about george straight and what about willie nelson? >> no miley cyrus on here for you. >> how does led zeppelin not make that list? that's just ridiculous. people under 30 were still kicking around in the sandbox when michael jackson was in his prime. i don't understand that. >> they know his legend lives on. >> and it will. check this out. perseid meteor showers happening right now, peaked last night. you want to see them? just go out there in the middle of the night tonight. it will still be happening.

you don't need a telescope. just go out there, lay out, take it easy. listen, looking at showers and thunderstorms that will pop across much of the mid-atlantic, piedmont and also towards parts of the south. daytime highs today will be in the 80s and 90s. seasonal temperatures i think is what we're looking at. that's it. i totally dispute that poll. >> who do you think got left off? >> led zeppelin's got to be somewhere in the top at least ten, if not five. >> not even not top 20. >> u2's not on there? >> both bands have great composition and longevity. >> and they have a nice beat, you can dance to it. >> carrie underwood, number nine. as i said, i like her just fine. she's very talented. >> can be believe that? from on security to "american idol." new ads that show the obama

girls, some are saying she should be off-limits. president obama's daughters get healthy school lunches, why don't i? who's behind the ads and we'll talk about the controversy they're stirring up.

we're six minutes to the top of the hour. welcome back to the most news in the morning. president obama has made it perfectly clear that his daughters are off-limits. that's not stopped a non-profit group from making the obama girms part of a new ad campaign to promote healthy school lunches and it has grabbed the attention of the white house. cnn's elaine quijano's got the story for us.

>> reporter: these ads are only up at one train station here in washington but they're apparently enough to make the white house sit up and take notice. in washington's union station, the ads never show their pictures, or mention first daughters sasha and malia by name, but next to an image of a smiling 8-year-old the question -- president obama's daughters get healthy school lunches. why don't i? >> we wanted them to see this ad, not once, not twice, but over an over again so they think about children, especially disadvantaged children all over the u.s. >> dr. kneel barnard heads up the group behind the ads. they're aimed at congressional staffers who pass through to prod congress into getting more vegetarian and vegan lunch options in public schools. barnard says the ads grab the white house' attention, too. >> they called and says basically would we take the ads down. i'm quite sure the president

would be quite delighted with the ads. >> reporter: the ads are still up. >> famous quote of a president is "my children are nobody's damn business." >> reporter: former white house press secretary joe lockhart agrees. he recalls the clintons deciding against having daughter chelsea introduce her father at the 1996 democratic national convention. >> it would have been a magical political moment and the president and first lady said no way. no way, because if we use her for that, then she's fair game. >> daddy, what city are you in? >> reporter: fast forward to the 2008 democratic convention. still, lockhart believes children growing up in the white house deserve to be kept out of debates no matter what the cause. >> these are young kids. they didn't sign up for this. they deserve their privacy. >> reporter: the white house isn't confirming whether officials asked that the ad be taken down.

spokesman robert gibbs says the administration hopes others will be respectful and not use the first daughter as a publicity stunt. john? kiran? >> elaine quijano for us this morning, thanks so much. we're going to be speaking in a few minutes to congressman david scott. someone spray painted a swastika on the office sign outside his building there after he held a do town hall meeting. it wasn't on health care, a doctor in fact asked a question about health care. things got ugly for a few minutes. he says that this is the result. we're going to talk about why this debate has seemed to wade into this nasty territory. >> somebody making a comment there.

good morning. coming up on a minute before the top of the hour on this wednesday, august 12th. i'm kiran chetry. >> izbli>> i'm john roberts. president obama on a mission to turn the tables on his critics and win the battle for health care reform. he's hitting the road to sell his plan in new hampshire yesterday on to montana and colorado later in the week. but in town halls across the country fear and anger still rule the day. police and fbi are now investigating the graffiti outside the office to georgia congressman david scott. congressman scott was involved in a heated debate over health

care, then found a swastika painted on a sign outside his office. he'll join us live ahead. american soldier serving his country and mexico's drug lords. an 18-year-old army private is being accused of being a hitman for a mexican drug cartel, shooting a dea informant on american soil. cnn's ed lavendera is live with the violent new reality on this side of the border. we begin the hour with president obama on the the offensive trying to calm fears and clear up misconceptioned when it comes to health care reform. president holding a town hall meeting yesterday in new hampshire. the crowd there civil but not in missouri or pennsylvania where the town hall meetings turned chaotic. security officers actually were forced to remove audience members when things threatened to get out of control. >> you want to be led out of here? you're welcome to go. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. >> one day god's going to stand

before you and he's going to judge you and the rest of your damn cronies up on the hill. >> okay. okay. we just had a demonstration of democracy. okay? >> i don't understand this rudeness. what is this? i don't get it. i honestly don't get it. do you all think that you're persuading people when you shout out like that? you don't trust me? you know, i don't know what else i can do. i don't know what else i can do. if you want me to go home -- >> in new hampshire, the audience was polite while the president made his pitch but not necessarily sold. jim acosta's live in portsmouth, new hampshire this morning. as we've talked about this make-or-break month on this august recess for health care reform -- it is clear the

president does have an uphill battle but that crowd keeping things much more civil than we've seen in some of the other town halls. >> reporter: yes, that's definitely the case, kiran. that might have something to do when when you're under the watchful eye of the secret service going into a town hall meeting and have to ask for tickets in advance, that may keep things under control a little bit more than some of these congressional town halls where just about anybody can walk in off the street. two different ways of setting up these town halls. but this is becoming crystal clear as to why democrats wanted to get health care reform done before the august recess. the longer this debate goes on, the harder the sell becomes. and eent president is being forced to confront some of the more outrageous claims coming from reform opponents. the debate over health care reform has come to this. a little girl holding a sign that says "obama lies grandma dies." what does that mean? >> what that means is with new health care they won't be taking

care of the elderly and older people probably as well as they do now with private insurance. >> reporter: it's a reference to the false claim made by some reform opponents that democratic health care plans would create a bureaucrat ig death panel to decide end of life issues for the elderly and disabled. the president confronted the rumor. >> the rumor that's been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the house of representatives voted for death panels that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we've decided that we don't -- it's too expensive to let her live anymore. i am not in favor of that. >> reporter: as the president tried to turn down the heat inside the town hall -- >> let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's

been proposed. >> reporter: tempers flared outside the event. police kept supporters and opponents of reform on opposite sides of the street. >> make sure the right wing doesn't distort the truth and that everybody's well aware of everything that's going on in this bill. >> if this government health care program goes through, then my small business will suffer even more. >> reporter: one protestors actually brought his handgun to the event because he had a permit for the gun, police allowed him to stay. are you going to keep that holstered when the president comes by? >> well of course. i like my life. >> reporter: with these august town halls turning into summer carnivals for democrats, the question for the white house is whether these events are changing any minds. >> good afternoon, mr. president. >> william anderson asked president whether the reform would set limits on prescription drugs. he wasn't convinced. >> saying one thing and doing

the right thing is something else. >> reporter: the president has not sold you yet? >> not yet, no. >> reporter: the president will take two more swings at a town hall meeting later this week with events scheduled in montana and colorado and just like new hampshire, those were presidential battlegrounds during the election last fall, now on the front lines of the great health care debate of 2009. >> jim acosta this morning for us, thanks. here's a whole new take on the town hall. the cnn express hit the road to see how real americans feel about the health care debate. but so many people wanted their voices heard that our ali velshi stopped the bus and let it happen and our own impromptu town hall sprung up right in the street. >> reporter: we're in paducah, kentucky, we're hearing different things but i haven't heard too many people opposed to reforming health care. >> i'm for the idea but i don't thing that congress and the

president has done a good job of disseminating information. >> reporter: what about you? >> i think right now we have a lack of choice. health care's expensive. i mean the average cost of the coverage i found more often than not are more expensive than the actual care. i would think any viable choice would be better than what we've got now. >> what do you think? >> my understanding, there is about 48 million people that's not covered. those people need to be covered. >> my husband and i are 2 of that 47 million-plus that don't have health care. and i'm not talking insurance. of course we don't have insurance, but i want health care. my husband has diabetes and he just had a bout with cancer. what insurance company's going to cover us? there aren't any. if i get sick today, where do you think i'm going? i'm going to the emergency room. who's that costing? that's costing us, the taxpayers. if it's going to cost my bottom line, they tax me more in order to get health care? tax me. tax me, tax me, tax me, i am willing to pay.

>> let's talk about the $46 million, 50 million -- they aren't covered. >> i'd love to drive a hummer. i can't afford one. i drive what i can afford. >> oh, my god. i didn't believe you're saying people don't deserve health care if they can't afford it. >> i didn't say that. >> you did say you'd like to buy a hummer and you can't because you can't afford it. you're saying if you can't afford the health care, you don't drive it, if you can't afford the health care, you shouldn't get it? >> no, no, no. i'm saying you have the basic stuff. you get a catastrophic illness. you're in a car crash, an accident, something like that happens, of course you get coverage for that. >> john and kiran, we're on broadway and main street in paducah, kentucky, just across the river from illinois. we pulled the bus up and this conversation started within minutes of us getting here. there is a little gazebo next to

us, the restaurant across the road brought us some chairs. we just sat down and had this conversation. it was a very enlightened discussion. as you've been covering, it is a lot more civil than a lot of the discussion that's been going on in the town halls. this is the sort of feedback we're getting from people. they want more information, they want more civil debate. they're concerned about the quality of their health care, the cost of it and whether or not options will be taken away from them. that's the theme that we've got going. it is day three now of this trip, we're heading out of kentucky, into southern illinois and probably into missouri by the end of the day. >> i always said any time ali velshi shows up it just sparks a conversation. what's the next stop there for the cnn express? >> we'll hit a few places before we'll get to st. louis. we'll get to st. louis probably midday. we'll cross over into missouri, get to east st. louis and cross over into missouri, head further west into missouri. >> you're ending all of this in iowa on the weekend? >> that's right. by friday night we'll get to des moines, we'll be at the iowa state fair all day on saturday. we'll be eating well.

>> don't eat any of those funnel cakes because they aren't the healthiest of things. we know you have good health care but we want you to stay healthy. ali velshi on the road in paducah, kentucky this morning. leave a comment on our show blog what you think about health care reform. or call the show hotline, 1-877- 1-877-my-amfix. there is a look at the swastika on this sign. it happened after a contentious debate about health care.

welcome back to the most news in the morning. you saw it here on "american morning," a georgia congressman in a heated back-and-forth over health care reform, then he finds a swastika painted on the sign outside his office in atlanta. congressman david scott says he believes it happened because of the health care debate. he joins us live from atlanta this morning to talk more about

this. thanks for being with us. i'm sure it was a very disturbing sight. when did you first see it and when was your reaction? >> well, i saw it when i got to my office, my staff woke me up in the morning and said what was on there and then as soon as i got to the office i saw it, i was just simply appalled. this symbol represents the most heinous period in world history. indicative of man's greatest inhumanity to man where nearly 6 million jewish people and others were murdered purposely by adolf hitler. when you reach that point to go -- this is how this individual wanted to express their concern over this health care debate, this is very, very dangerous. it's part of others, things we receive in the mail, for example this which depicts president obama as a clown with the swastika on his forehead. marxist, foreign and domestic,

says "to nigger david scott, you were, you are and will forever be a nigger. an ethiopian can't make himself white." we need to bring this to the american people and explain what the public option means without the tension. that is the mechanism that does the two most essential things we must do, bring down the costs of health care while at the same time expand it so we can provide health care coverage for others. >> congressman, hold on. you said a lot of things there so i want -- first of all, in your years serving the community, in your years being in public office, have you ever received anything like that before? is this a ratcheting up of people's emotions? >> it obviously is. no, i have not. i have excellent, excellent relationships. i happen to represent the kind of district that's very, very divorce. this happened in cobb county and

smyrna. i have served them well. it doesn't speak for them. it just speaks to this one individual as other information does. but we cannot dismiss this casually. there is bubbling up under this debate, unfortunately, the overtones this presents of hate, of racism, of all of these things. but we must have to resolve this hate, racism. this swastika cannot be the arbiter of this debate. >> it is mind boggling when we look at the night of president obama's election. regardless of where you stood, ideologically speaking, regardless of where you were on the political spectrum there was a lot of optimism where we were heading as a country. now we fast forward through these 200-plus days. what is it about this health care debate that seems to have brought out the worst in so many people as we're discussing what everybody wants, which is to figure out solutions to our collective problems?

>> first of all, i think that -- and my situation in all of this has been a realization that it has become politicized. from the very beginning when rush limbaugh says, well, we don't want him to succeed, we don't want president obama to succeed. i want him to fail. well, rush limbaugh has an extraordinary audience, and many of them feel very strongly and are influenced by him. they have senator de mint saying well, we got his waterloo on this health care, we can defeat him. well, there are people out there that want to defeat, don't want to see the president succeed. we shall be encouraged that here is a president that's willing to tackle the most difficult issue we are facing and we should give him a chance to do that. but i think the tone has been set there. so you find people who will come in and hijack these meetings for the purpose of expressing that. >> speaking of that, twl their

was a heated exchange that happened at a meeting you were speaking at. it wasn't even a meeting on health care. let's just play a little bit of what went down there. >> all right. >> don't come and take advantage of what these individuals have done! you want a meeting with me on health care? i'll give it to you. >> that was after a doctor by the name of brian hill asked you a health care related question. >> i want to ask you this. first of all, the young lady that brought that tape, they weren't even there to cover that wxia. since that time they have recognized that that tape was taken out of context and they did that. i love the people at wxia but they weren't there and that tape was edited and put up. what the aud dense didn't know, was my reference when i said "don't come in here and take advantage of what these individuals put together," there's an african-american community in douglasville that basically has a six-lane road

coming through it. they 68 homes were demolished. the african-american community and hispanic community were very concerned that they might be disenfranchised so they put this meeting together. it was about that. the doctors and everybody else bombarded that meeting and wanted to change it to make it what they wanted to be. so i had had to stand up and defend my kwaebts in douglasville that helped put that meeting together. >> you said if you want to have a town hall about health care we can do that. >> we're going to have that. we're going to have it this saturday in clayton county in my district. >> do you think it is going to be civil? >> i hope it will. i think it will. because, look, i'm in the middle of this. i am very much in the middle of being a part of the glue that brings these divergent changes

together. i'm a member of the blue dog coalition, congressional black caucus and the new dems. i cover the water front. i'm in that position and that's what i want to do. i want to take the time here, if i may, because the health care debate is so important. i want to take time to be able to communicate with the american people and put the right story out about this is not a death panel, this is not a bill that has abortion. the hyde amendment has outlawed federal funds to be used for that. people need to know that. they need to know the publix option is there for people who don't have insurance, and to act as a mechanism to offer competition to the other insurance companies and make sure we can bring the prices down. we're not going to be able to do that with them. so this is a very technical, it is a complex issue. but there are issues out there that are being blown out of proportion, and so i want to spend my time doing that. >> perhaps one of the good

things that comes out of all of this is that people are better informed and hopefully will be better informed about the process and about what ultimately happened. meantime, we're sorry about the situation that happened outside your office. we understand the fbi is now investigating along with the smyrna police and capitol police at the same time about who put that spastic ka owastika out th. thank you. three americans still being depand in iran after they inadvertently according to sources crossed over the border into iraq while hiking. how to get them out? bill clinton to the rescue again. robin wright has walked the same terth that those hikers were on joins us in a few minutes to talk about that. 19 1/2 minutes after the hour.

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welcome back to the most news in the morning. right now an american soldier is under arrest accused of being a contract killer for a mechanics cab drug cartel. 18-year-old army private michael jackson abadaka is accused of murdering of a mid-level cartel member who was also a dea informant. this would appear to be on the surface at least the escalation of the drug war because this hit took place in el paso, on the american side of the border. >> not only that, and when you have a member of someone on the u.s. side in any kind of uniform, whether it be military or police or a federal agent, that also seems to escalate to seriousness of this as well. it really highlights a growing concern that the reach and influence of the mexican drug cartels continues to grow. 18-year-old michael jackson

apulka still wearing his military uniform and in handcuffs, charged with capital murder. police say he fired the shot that killed this man three months ago outside his home in an upscale el paso neighborhood. the shooting victim was a mid-level member of the juarez drug cartel but also an informant for american federal agents. >> we do feel that this was retribution for the fact that the death -- the deceased person who pretty much gotten the person in trouble in juarez who was arrested by the federal authorities over there. so consequently this was retribution for that arrest. >> reporter: according to court documents, the 18-year-old was hired to carry out this hit and paid by a member of the juarez cartel. court documents say the murder was ordered because the juarez cartel discovered the victim was

talking to american authorities. >> i want to stress this was a pay-back situation, not an ongoing battle that you see in mexico right now. whole lot different. even though this can be considered to some degree spillover, we don't look at it in the same way as it is occurring in mexico. >> reporter: according to officials at ft. bliss in el paso, the 18-year-old joined the army about a year ago, working as a kree mum bertha launches patriot missiles. but his family says they don't believe the charges against him. >> he was in the top of his class. he talked to all his sergeants. he's a good soldier. before he went in he was in with a bad crowd. >> you hear authorities in el paso saying they believe this is an isolated incident, clearly someone who was targeted for a specific reason and they want people to feel that they're still safe on the el paso side.

>> it has to be troubling for local authorities, ed. if the drug cartels could recruit one person from inside the ranks of the u.s. military, have they recruited more? >> we have seen in various parts along the border i've seen over the last year or so anecdotally several cases where you have different levels and different types of authorities, whether it be federal agents or local police officials, where you have seen what seems to be an uptick in the number of cases involving american authorities. we know there are a great deal of people who are concerned about this and they're involved in all sorts of different things. it is not just carrying out the deadly cartel hit like this case because. there is growing number of people involved in turning a blind eye when drugs are moved across the border or helping others, some of these human smuggling operations. this is a vast criminal enterprise involved in very many different things. >> definitely troubling new

developments. ed lavendera for us this morning in dallas, thanks so much. we talked about some of the town hall meetings and how some of them have sort of degenerated into shouting matches. people had to be removed by security in some of these. at arlen specter's town hall held in lebanon, pennsylvania, a stay-at-home mom said she was never involved in politics but had a burning question to ask him -- why. we'll hear what she asked. she joined us to talk a little bit more about why she felt so strongly about this debate. we'll check in with a middle east expert regarding the hikers held in iran. 26 minutes after the hour.

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after a quick phone call to a friend saying they were surrounded by iranian troops little was heard about them until sunday. a lot of people are asking the question will bill clinton be coming to the rescue again? joining me in washington, robin wright, former diplomatic correspondent for the "washington post." robin, you're very familiar with the territory those hikers went missing in. describe for us what the area is like and what about the border? is it easy to tell where you are? is it well marked or are there no markings? >> there's very little markings. i actually flew to iran, took a taxi across the border -- to the border. there was a little shed. i signed a ledger saying that i was leaving iran, going into iraq, then i walked across just some open territory. it could have been a park or could have been any place. there were no markings, nothing on the other side. i think it could be very

difficult to tell some of the border markings and as a result, these kids got caught. >> just for folks at home, we're showing a map there where the area was where these three people inadvertently crossed the border and were detained. do you think that the iranians are looking at last week's situation with laura ling and euna lee and bill clinton coming to take them away and saying, what can we do to get some of that? >> oh, absolutely. i suspect they were monitoring everything that happened because the cases are almost identical. journalists or young people crossing the border and getting caught by security forces. the very fact that all it took was the girls relaying the message that the north korean government was willing to release them in bill clinton came to pyongyang will be heard loud and clear in tehran. it comes at a very interesting

juncture politically for iran. it's looking for international acceptance for its leadership after a disputed election that's not recognized by millions of its own people. idea that bill clinton after 30 years of tenkss with tsions wit united states might go to tehran on behalf of these yuck people would certainly be appealing. for the moment the united states is looking primarily and trying to reach out through other channels to see if there -- it is possible to use pressure on tehran to get these people out. >> john bolton, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations in the bush administration voiced some concerns about bill clinton's trip to pyongyang saying this could be a slippery slope, that he becomes the world's firefighter and he runs around to all of these hotspots freeing people. do you think there is a danger that that could happen here? could the iranian leadership say, yeah, we'll give them back but we do want bill clinton to come here? >> oh, i think it's quite possible. what's interesting is what's happened over the last few days with the united states turning to the iraqis who have a very

good relationship with iran to try to pressure them to release these people. i think that there's probably a lot of secret diplomacy going on, or quiet diplomacy, with a lot of other allies. turkey, which borders iran which is a member of nato, a close u.s. ally, but has an islamic party which is in power today. sweden. italy which has strong trade relations. germany. some of the europeans. japan, which buys a lot of iranian oil, that there are a lot of other channels that the united states will try first. i don't expect anything to happen quickly, however. >> i mean the swedes helped out with the release of laura ling and euna lee. maybe they are involved here. the swiss are the official go-betweens. correct? between the united states and iran? the iraqi foreign minister came out in support of the hikers saying it is all a mistake. we know he has very good relations with iran. might he somehow get involved in this? could he alone do this? or do you think it is going to

take american involvement? >> i think the iraqis will try very hard. zabari is a kurd and kurds from that side of iraq have very strong relations with the iranians because of the 12 years they relied on iran as one of the groups during the period they iran was under sanctions by saddam hussein. that's clearly the strongest possibility for the united states. there are also other alternatives besides bill clinton. we have a lot of well known travelers, whether it is bill richardson, the governor of new mexico, jesse jackson. others have been engaged in the past and that's also a possibility i suspect. >> i was in baghdad a couple years back interviewing zabari. he came out with the iranian ambassador and the two of them looked like they were getting on quite well. we'll see. robin wright, thanks for

stopping by this morning. we'll keep watching this story. >> thank you. she's 35 years old, a stay-at-home mom, says she's never been involved in politics but something drove her to come out to a town hall meeting in pennsylvania to try to make her voice be heard. we'll hear from katy abram coming up. 35 minutes past the hour. bicycle, i've missed you. gathering dust, as pollen floats through the air. but with the strength of zyrtec ® , the fastest, 24-hour allergy relief, i promise not to wait as long to go for our ride.

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united states fell in 2008 for the first time in 15 years. new homes are now 7% smaller. that's the size of an average size room. experts say new homes are shrinking for a number of reasons -- affordability, energy costs, aging baby boomers who don't need all of that space to ram balance around in, and a tight market for big mortgages. also, a new study points to the real power of money. chinese researchers finding that counting money, meaning just handling the bills, made people feel stronger. they say that money can act as a substitute for social acceptance, reducing social discomfort and by extension, physical discomfort or even pain. you thought people were crazy when they rolled around in the bed in money. >> there you go. >> guess it helps with the pain. we've been watching these town hall meetings for the last couple of weeks, we've seen fights, arguments, angry protestors holding signs. we're trying to cut through the noise to bring you the real deal here when it comes to what people's concerns are in terms of health care reform and where

this all might be going. >> yeah. are we talking to carol now? >> no, we're talking to katie. >> well carol was doing some fact checking for us. we also had a chance to talk to katie abram. a 35-year-old stay-at-home mom, she lives outside of pittsburgh. she went to the -- she lives outside of philadelphia. she went to the arlen specter town hall meeting, she wanted to make her voice be heard. let's listen to what she said. >> did you know at the time when you showed up to ask that question that that was going to be the response from people in the crowd? >> no. i didn't even know that was the question i was going to ask, to be honest with you. >> you talk about this. you said that you're a conservative and a republican but you're not somebody who's really ever into politics. the day-to-day politicking out there. what made you change your mind when you told the senator that you have awakened a sleeping giant? how did that happen? >> you know, over the past couple months i've seen on the news how they were doing the

t.a.r.p. package and trying to bail out banks and auto companies and i saw a lot of really reckless things. next thing i see is this health care reform they're bringing through, or nationalized health care. that really was the nail in the coffin for me, i guess you could say. that woke me up. >> what is your health care situation right now? i mean just to give some perspective. we said that you're a stay-at-home mom. how many kids do you have, are you covered, are they covered. >> yes. my children, i have a 7-year-old daughter named madelyn -- hi, mattie. little 4-year-old named sam -- hi, sam. they'll love that. and we have a health savings account. we're self-employed. we pay for our own health care insurance. we have a high deductible. we pay out towards our insurance every month. typically every year we are

paying for our own health care, doctor's visits and everything ourselves. >> do you think it could be better? you think health care in general in this country could be improved? spl absolutely. i'm not -- i don't know everything about health care. i know that it's not a perfect system, but i don't necessarily believe that having the government in control of it is the solution. i mean i've never seen them do anything that that's worked, to be honest with you. so the last thing i want them to have control of is my health care. >> you said to arlen specter as well what are you going to do to restore this country back to what our founders created, according to the constitution. what were you trying to get automatic there? what did you mean by that? >> what i meant by that is when -- from the little bit that i've read, i'm not -- was never a history major. this is, like i said, new to me. i've been reading about the founders, i've been reading the

constitution. and the founders did not look to the government as being the solution for the problems in this country. it doesn't say in the constitution "give out free health care to people." "bail out the auto companies." "do all these things. the people of this country can be self-sufficient an take care of ourselves. i'm just looking for the government to get the heck out of my way. >> were you happy with the response that you got from arlen specter? >> um -- you know, honestly, i think the true response will be what happens when this bill is brought over to the senate. my understanding is it's in congress right now, so it hasn't necessarily crossed the line over into the senate. so the proof is in the puddle. see what he does. >> obviously there is a lot of passions involved in all of this. hers was just one case but there are a lot of other people too who are working with what seems to be misinformation. there are so many things out there, sarah palin talking about

death panels. that's not in the legislation anywhere. there are people who are saying that these will fund abortion. that's not in the legislation either. so separating fact from fiction. it's pretty hard when it comes to these bills, particularly since everything is so fluid. there's nothing that's cast in stone yet. >> there's no actual bill that's going to be voted upon yet. carol costello is going to break down some of the biggest myths that are out there, what's true and what's not when it comes to what they're talking about, at all, when it comes to health care reform. 44 minutes after the hour.

now we're going to check in with carol. as the health care debate rages on, literally, we're going to take a closer look at what all the shouting is about. >> are the angry talking points even true? well, many of them aren't. carol costello is in washington this morning. she's tackling the big one, separating fact from fiction. carol, when it comes to this issue, that's such an extraordinarily important thing to do. >> yes, it is. you hear these rumors and they're so extreme that they stick in your mind so it is very

hard to like, tell people, no, this isn't true. the number one thing to keep in ming before we dive into this -- there is no -- repeat -- no health care reform bill ready to be voted on by both house and senate. a key house committee did pass a bill, that's that 1,000-page bill you hear about but that's not a final bill either. it is likely to change. that's why lawmakers are holding these town hall meetings are aren't exactly answering questions. if you're looking for answers about health care reform, good luck. politics, misinformation, noise is about all you seem to hear. time to quiet the noise and debunk the myths -- or not. start with this. death panels. true or false. as sarah palin put it, seniors and even babies with disabilities "will have to stand in front of obama's death panel so his bureaucrats can decide whether they are worthy of

health care." >> that one's so wrong it's gotten a pants-on-fire on our truth meter. >> that's false. palin's allegation arose out of an idea to allow medicare to pay for counseling for people who wanted advice about end of life care. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your hell care plan, you can keep your health care plan. >> true or false? in theory, these things are true. but -- there are valid concerns. >> given that this is going to dramatically change the marketplace of health insurance, we don't know if any given health insurance is going to be offered the same way in a few years. >> rationing. true or false. arguably, private health insurance plans ration. they decide what's covered and what's not. politifact.com says there's nothing in the house bill that specifically addresses

rationing. but it is logical to assume that someone has to decide what and how much is covered. >> if you like the post office and the department of motor vehicles and you think they're run well, just wait until you see medicare, medicaid and health care done by the government. >> reporter: the government can't run big programs. true or false. critics have even gone as far as drawing up a diagram of our dysfunctional the government health care plan will be, even though no such diagram actually exists. >> if the government can run medicare, what's to say it couldn't run this kind of a program? >> just something to consider on the subject of abortion. accordi ining to politicheck.co. no federal taxpayer money will pay for abortions. on the subject of how to pay for health care reform, now that is the big unknown. there are real fears increased taxes will spread to the middle class. will they? the president says no. but there are plenty of others who say he has no choice. that's pretty much why we're

talking about this so heatedly right now, john and kiran. >> it's interesting to point out, too, back during the bush administration, an agency at the department of health and human services recommended so-called advanced care planning, which is sort of an end of life planning. nobody was talking about death panels back then. they didn't recommend that the government pay for that. that's the difference with the bill. just goes to show you, the context that you put this stuff in inflames the passion. >> the idea about counseling came from a republican lawmaker which is just interesting since conservatives are the ones complaining about this. i did ask people to look on our blog, cnn.com/am fix. i provided -- actually, there was a great list of places you can go to check out information. these are a couple of the comments i got from our viewers this morning. from bill, he says costello's whole segment is what's false. it was obviously another pro-obama force the plan down people's throat. bill, i certainly didn't mean it. i want you to go to other

sources to check on information. go to all the sources that you can, because that's the only way that you'll figure out what's true and what's not true. i just want to read this one from george. he said "i do not have health care and i have type 1 diabetes. the cost each month for insulin, testing supplies, exceeds $1,000, including doctor appointments. were it not for a local benefit program i would be bankrupt." he says we should be talking more to the people that don't have health insurance to see how they feel and think. >> i guess the bottom line here, carol, is whether you agree with this or not, arm yourself with the facts as opposed to fallacy and fiction which is what a lot of people have armed themselves with. >> what's happening here also is it's really hard to get the facts. you know? because as you said before, there is really nothing -- there are some bills out there, there are some versions, but nothing that is absolutely going to be voted on right now. >> and frankly, it's easier to believe things in black and white. it is a lot easier to wade through the gray areas and to try to really understand what's

going on out there. you know, you come up with these rumors, and it is easy to go, yeah, and it sticks in your mind and that's what you end up believing. >> carol costello for us this morning, thanks so much. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back we'll show you some amazing pictures from the perseid meteor shower. lights up the night. beautiful. ththththththththththth

pretty shot this morning. the buildings, the trees in central park, you can see the ball field. the water. 78 degrees. it is going to be mostly cloudy today. there are scattered thunderstorms, only going up to a high of 79. but, hey, it's the middle of august. what do you expect? rob marciano checking things out for us. we're not getting any extreme extreme weather. right? but other parts of the country not so lucky. >> heavy thunderstorms expected alocross the southeast. this is tropical depression in the atlantic ocean, winds of 35 miles per hour. national hurricane center thinks this will strengthen to a tropical storm. it is over 1,000 miles from the leeward islands. at this point not expected to become a hurricane. we'll let you know how that progresses. across the southeast, here's where thunderstorms will pop up later today. temperatures today will be seasonal. 80s and 90s in typical spots. it is the season for perseid meteor showers.

i think tonight will be a good show as well. you don't need a telescope. just go out after midnight, get away from the city lights and look up. you should be able to sea at some points 50 to 100, maybe over 100 per hour, shooting stars. that's always a neat summertime thing to do as the earth heads through the dust. you guys ever do that? kind of tough in new york city. >> i was just about to say on my way to work this morning i stepped out and i looked up in the sky and there was so much glow from the ground you couldn't even see any stars. >> all he saw was the neon lights saying "deli." >> it actually said "cnn." >> we asked people about the battle of the bands, top 20 acts? people writing in saying pink floyd was left off the list. the police not on the list. >> a lot were left off. but you can't satisfy everybody. >> but there's only 20-plus.

dave matthews band, van halen. >> don't forget, every friday rob leaves the office early, hits the road for something new we're calling "rob's road show." last week he hit up the world's biggest yard sale in tennessee. this friday you're shipping off to orlando for a massive yo-yo contest? we'll bring it to you live. that should be fun. if have an idea for rob's next trip, shoot us an e-mail. if you have some obscure little event in the middle of nowhere, give that to us. two minutes to the top of the hour.

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