please join me on the radio monday through fridays for the "lou dobbs show. "that's it for us tonight. up next, campbell brown. cnn prime time begins right now. tonight -- here are the questions we want answered. is this the best we can do in the health care debate? >> we are in debt up to our eyeballs. >> i want to build on what is right for our system. >> another day, another senator shouting to be heard. how it's getting off amid all the noise. plus, who is to blame when passengers are trapped in grounded planes. god makes the weather. the airlines decide to keep passengers out on the tarmac. >> how do we put a stop to this? is it finally time for a national passengers' bill of rights? also, did this anchor get

the scoop on murderers because he helped commit them? police charged that he ordered hits on drug dealers in a ploy to boost ratings. and farrah fawcett's best friend talks about the actress' final days. >> announcer: this is your only source for news. "cnn primetime" begins now. here's campbell brown. hey there, everybody. we'll start with the "mash-up," it's a look attal the stories making an impact right now. more questions and some answers and a lot more yelling at town hall meetings across the country today. take a look. >> i need know what are you doing to these insurance companies that are putting everything in their pocket and just laughing at everybody else? >> this is really not about health care reform or insurance reform. it's a bill without government control. >> how can you possibly be

talking about cutting something from medicare right now? >> i want to hear it from obama. i want to hear it from pelosi and company how this is be we, the people, and not about taking the money out of the free enterprise capitalistic people that made us a great country and putting it in government pockets. >> if this is so good for us, the american people, why has congress excluded themselves and their family from this program? >> would you be willing to go ahead and add amendments to the bill yourself to stop the tort problem? >> we are in debt to our eyeballs and you all are doing nothing but putting more debt on us and our children and it's got to stop. >> i don't want to change the health care, period. what's the rush? >> a lot of misinformation in informing the questions you heard there. for example, on medicare, it's true president obama has proposed billions in cuts. he says the cuts would bring more efficient care. but it is false that congress has excluded itself from any health care reform package.

and not just the audience that appears to be confused. and in some cases, it is the lawmaker. listen to this. >> there's some fear because in the house bill there's counseling for end of life. and from that standpoint, you have every right to fear. you should -- you shouldn't have counseling at the end of life. i don't have any problem with things like living wills, but they ought to be done within the family. we should not have -- we should not have -- we should not have a government program that determines you're going to pull the plug on grandma. >> is this true or false? >> well, we rated that one our lowest rating, pants on fire, on our truth-0-meter. and the reason is there's no such thing on the health care bill. >> and he, of course, was talking there about the death panels that you heard senator grassley reference. once again, and again, there are no government death panels

determining when to pull the plug on grandma. today, though, on another point, the white house had to do fact-checking of its own over a point that president obama made in new hampshire this was yesterday. >> reporter: this own facts were fuzzy, this is what he said about the aarp. >> aarp would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining medicare. i just want seniors to be clear about this. >> reporter: while the aarp agrees it would never support a bill that undermines medicare. in a statement, its chief operating officer called any suggestion of endorsement, quote, inaccurate. gibbs cleans it up this way. >> i don't think the president meant to imply anything untoward. >> he just misspoke? >> right. >> the president is going to hold another town hall in montana on friday. in nigeria, secretary of state hillary clinton making some news by comparing elections there to elections here. this involves the discussion of

nigeria's problems with widespread voter fraud. >> another off-the-cuff comment about elections, this time, about nigeria, she brought up an election in the u.s., in 2000 she said -- >> in 2000 our presidential election came down to one state where the brother of the man running for president was the governor of the state. so, we have our problems, too. >> aides said she was not being editorial, she simply was making the point of how candidates would accept election results even if it might be flawed. >> this is going to raise eyebrows. >> right. i think one of the questions when she was running, will the real hillary clinton stand up. looks like she's doing pap. >> there is a presidential election in afghanistan next week. hundreds of marines and afghan troops launched a new push to take some controls on the taliban. >> action here from the front lines of the war in afghanistan.

look at these images. u.s. marines mounting a helicopter assault to seize a taliban-held town-bah assessment na. marines fights their way into the town while others battled militants and surrounding mountains. >> their main tactic right now is to secure afghans to help them go out and vote. eight days away from their second presidential election. eight days will not be enough for the villagers to feel confident to go to the polls. >> current president hamid karzai is considered the front-runner. back in washington, incredible star power. the president obama presented 16 people with the medal of freedom.

>> steven moffatt. sandra day o'connor. sidney pointier. laura kennedy. stewart melk accepting on behalf of his unck. afternoon bishop desmond tu. >> and check out joe madison crow hybird. the inian plains war chief. he go to the white house in full dress today. quite a picture. check out this one. surveillance tape, this is from a heist in london that takes $65 million worth of jewelry. >> reporter: expensive suits, apparently every bit a sophisticated gentlemen, they talked their way past security of the door. but once inside, these men got out handguns, threatened staff

and stole 40 million pounds worth of gems and jewelry. outside, a witness filmed the man leaving the store, shouting threats. a hostage with them before they fired a warning shot in the air. and then escaped in a blue bmw. >> police arrested a suspect today but say he's not one of the men in the case. and have you seen the video of miley cyrus at the teen choice awards. mild controversy over her dancing. here's the punch line, jimmy falon last night. >> miley cyrus, he danced around what looked like a stripper pole on top of an ice cream cart. to be fair, miley said it wasn't a stripper pole. apparently miley cyrus comes from britney spears' house.

>> and that is the punch line. or that is the punch line. that is also "mash-up." when we come back, finger pointing going on and on over the plane load of passengers that was stuck on that tarmac over the weekend. why can't the airlines seem to get this right? >> and with all the shouting in the town hall, is anybody changing their minds? and the senator repeatedly faced anger like this today. >> i think the obama administration has already started to restore trust in health care by the -- to roll ov) into a fidelity ira. man: okay, no problem. it's easy to get started. i can help you with the paperwork. um... this green line just appeared on my floor. that's guidance from fidelity. it's the route to your financial goals. could you hold on a second? whatever your destination, fidelity has the people, guidance and investments to help you find your way. this is going to be helpful. contact us today.

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the outrage is growing after passengers aboard a commuter plane were practically held prisoner for almost seven hours on the tarmac in rochester, minnesota. take a look. >> i was trapped all night inside a small plane parked on a runway. >> that's what happened to 47

passengers who boarded what was supposed to be a three-hour continental flight to houston to minnesota's twin cities. late friday night, thunderstorms caused the flight to be averted to rochester, minnesota. by the time the plane land there had, all the tsa screeners had gone home. and the crew was apparently at its maximum work hours. >> we became increasingly frustrateand also, everybody at that point was pretty exhausted. people had children crying. the whole atmosphere of the plane was just one of sort of deteriorating emotional stability. >> right now, as it stands, the airlines can hold you indefinitely. they don't have to provide you with food, water, or any medical needs. >> there's no culpability for the airlines stall which is why we're pushing for a flaw congress. >> and washington is getting involved here. ray lahood has announced that an investigation is under way also those on the federal level,

demanding answers. senator, welcome to you. >> hello, campbell. >> i know you wouldn't want to be sit oggen that plane with a baby on your lap. >> you can imagine? as a mother, when i heard it the stories it made me crazy. i know you're hearing from a lot of people because this is happening in the state. we've heard stories about this happening all over the country. why do you think this is happening? >> i don't know. the airlines have not been that crazy about our bill, and we want to get this done, senators snowe and boxer have taken the lead. we want to get this passenger bill of rights through congress again. time and time again, in june, 278 planes alone were left on the tarmac for more than three hours. oftentimes, airlines do allow passengers to go into the terminal. and they could do better than three hours if they want. but at least, let's set a minimum standard that people can say maybe we should get these passengers off early because there's a law that says they

can't stay on for more than three hours. these passengers were on there for six hours. the toilet was smelly. i talked to my constituents from the office. we're only an hour and a half away from the twin cities. they're sitting on that plane, knowing how close they are to that airport. it was just crazy. >> you, i know, reached out to the two airlines involved here. continental and express jet, asking them to clarify their conflicts stories about it. have you heard anything? >> we haven't heard anything back yet. i know they've apologized to the passengers. they've given them a $200 flight credit and a $50 certificate. but this doesn't change it for other passengers going forward. we're hoping we can pass this passenger bill of rights and get to the bottom of it. our airport officials at the rochester airport said these passengers could have come into the airport, so we really want to get this clarified. i know you're asking the faa to respond. what should they do? what can they do? are there consequences for the

airlines? >> it's possible there could be consequences because of rules that were violated that the airlines didn't follow and we want to get to the bottom of that. but most of this, this shouldn't keep happening. first it was jetblue and then this. and the small planes just sitting there, it's like common sense had gone out the window, but they couldn't open any windows. so we need to change this. >> we keep hearing about the passenger bill of right, beyond setting the minimums, i guess, on the hours they can hold you on a plane, explain to us, briefly, if you can, what it would do to give people relief, that common sense relief that people are craving? >> well, first of all, it would provide that if passengers are stuck on a plane, there has to be food. there has to be toilets that are working. second of all, set the minimum of standard, have a hotline so passengers can call about delays. once you set the standards, i think the airlines have been and will be doing better. so that doesn't mean that you can let somebody on the tarmac in half an hour or hour. but if we have a standard on

that plane, we realize we can't keep people in a sardine all night. we have to figure this out or we're violating the law. so the main thing about this is to say, we need a passenger bill of rights so they can't keep messing around with people. >> it's been two years since the bill was introduced? why hasn't it passed already? what are we waiting for, another horrible episode? >> well, it has gone through the congress committee. what's happening here, it's part of the faa reauthorization which is really important if you look at what happened over the hudson river this last week because it also contains updated safety measures for the airports and updated air traffic control issues. the good thing to do here would be to combine the safety mrashs with the passenger bill of rights and get this through congress to have the next generation of air travel. our country ask not have the most updated equipment at the airports and we need to change that. >> senator amy klobuchar joining

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now, a look at some of the other must-see stories of the day. mike galanos from hln "prime time news." a huge russian cargo ship has vanished, some suspect

pirates in the european waters. the ship is call the "arctic sea." and was carrying 15. almost a week ago, they reported that the ship was raided by masked men claiming to be police. since then, nothing. keep your eye on this, a rescuer became the rescued under typhoon devastation. watch this raft there. gets swept away by the raging floodwaters. the guy is clinging for life there. disaster teams are trying to reach survivors cut off by flooding, mudslides. at least 103 are dead in taiwan's worst natural disaster in a century. once it's quieted down, the destruction of a riot destruction in chino. authorities say the riot left most of the housing units unhabitable. one dorm completely gutted by

fire. it took guards four hours to get saturday's mayhem under control. that was bad news. this as well, thankfully, no major injuries. last night in boston, kevin youkilis gets hit by rick porcello. he throws him to the ground. both benches clear. no one seriously hurt as i said. major league baseball suspended both youkilis and porcello for five games. it's like two games' worth of bean brawls before this one. finally, if you believe age is just a number, 96-year-old great grandmother parasailing, it's not going to surprise you. it was her great granddaughter's idea. pauline says he may do it again for her 100th birthday. until then, she's sticking to

the knitting and crocheting. >> that's inspiring. my grandmother is turning 90 this year. i don't think i'm going to be able to talk her into parasailing but maybe something else. >> this lady is no thrill-seeker. she is never driven a car and only the second time in a boat. >> that's a great story. >> okay, campbell. when we come back, farrah fawcett's best friend is joining us. she's going to share her memories. also, how you can make yourself heard over tirades like this one. >> your government has lost the faith and trust of the american people. this government is out of control. we are in debt up to our eyeballs. and you all are doing nothing but putting more debt on us and our children and it's got to stop. what are you going to do about it?

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another day in this make or break month for health care. another beating for a member of congress. a crowd in hagerstown, maryland shouted through a lot of what senator ben cardin had to say right now. senator cardin, welcome to you. >> hi, campbell, it's a lot quieter here. >> i bet it is. i want to give people a real sense of what you've been through this week. you've had two town halls this week. let's take a look. >> how are you going to look at my children, in their eyes, and tell them they're going to have a better future with $99 trillion? say it with me, $99 trillion

that you get and your cohorts up on capitol hill. how are you going to look at my children? >> your children have lost the faith and trust of the government. >> i think the obama administration has started to restore trust in health care by the -- >> now, this went on and on and on. i know you know it did. again, i said you had two of these this week. let me start by asking you how it felt to stand up there and sort of get hammered over and over again. >> well, campbell, i've been doing town hall meetings for a long time. i think they're a very valuable part of the political process. those who went through the entire town hall meetings. we had many opportunities, good questions to be asked and answers to be given. i want able to get, i think,

points across. was able to get information out there. clearly, there were those who were there who were interested in making a point and being noisy. that's part of the town hall meetings. >> who are these meetings? this a vocal minority or the constituents? do you have a sense for whether this is an organized small group of people, or a lot of people you represent? >> well, campbell, there are a lot of people concerned who want to know what's in this bill and how it affects them. that's the reason we have town hall meetings to get information out to them. clearly, there was a minority of people there that wound up being noisy. that's what they wanted to do. they wanted to be heard and say things that were not directly related to the health care bill. their mistrust of government, their cynicism. they wanted to get the points across. and they used that opportunity and there was a reaction. but the overall majority in that

room wanted questions answered. we had a chance to talk about the myths out there, some of the misstatements. i think it furthered the process. i was disappointed that people were noisy. but that's part of the process. >> do you think you were able to get through to people? because as you said, a lot, you said it a lot, people misleading people. are you able to correct or do you think the facts are coming through? what we're all seeing on tv, it's a week of this now. is it all kind of a show? >> well, i think those that were in the hall, through the entire town hall meetings, i think those who saw the broadcast on c-span monday night. the monday night town hall meeting, i think they got a sense of some of the information. they felt a little more comfortable about some of the concerns we may have had. our main objective is to help people get comfortable. to keep their current insurance.

to span preventive care. we have a form in there for health insurance so they can't discriminate against you. the guaranteed package, reducing and eliminating the caps on insurance protection. i think when they heard those facts, the majority of people that were listening that weren't there to try to disrupt or to just be "no" on any type of health care reform felt a little better about the process. >> we were talking about trying to fix the facts. earlier today, at one of his town halls, one of your colleagues, republican senator chuck grassley said, this is a quote, people have every right to fear that reform can result in a government program that is going to pull the plug on grandma. what do you think about that? >> i disagree with senator grassley. there's nothing that these bills and there they're not be any provision supported in congress that would do that. >> but that's been stated multiple times. do you believe that he's

deliberately spreading false information? >> i don't want to comment about senator grassley. i don't know what context he said that. i can till this, there are groups that are spreading that provision, that statement about pulling the plug. it's absolutely false. there's no merit to it at all. and i think -- it doesn't advance the debate in the congress. >> that said, there are also some legitimate concerns, as you pointed out. people are raising about reform. a big one here, you've got to concede, it's the cost. i mean, if we're honest with ourselves, it's almost impossible to imagine a plan that is actually going to be deficit-neutral. don't you think people are justably upset about their inability to get what appears to be an honest answer about the numbers? >> the reason we can't give specifics about the numbers. we don't have one bill, we don't have the bill from the senate finance committee which is the committee that deals with the numbers. but one thing is clear, a major

reform bill is not going to move through the united states senate and through congress unless it reduces the growth rate of health care costs in america and unless it's budget-neutral. it's not going to pass in the united states if those two aren't met. the president also stated, i was with him today, he said he would veto the bill if it's not deficit-neutral. it's going to be deficit-neutral and it's going to be a cost curve if we have a bill. i think we will. i'm confident about that. look, primary objective is to make health care more affordable access to all people in the country. you want all americans to have access to affordable health care. we're paying for those who don't have insurance today, we've got to do a better job in doing that. >> senator ben cardin, we appreciate your time tonight. thanks for coming on. it is still hard to believe that any knowing mother would knowingly drive drunk or high. that is what police said a new york woman did when she

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the horrific crash in which a wrong-way driver killed herself and seven others set off a national conversation with women and alcohol. authorities say the driver, 36-year-old diane schuler had smoked pot and drank at least ten vodkas before the collision in which her daughter and three nieces were among those killed. we want to bring in three people. joining us is susan cheever, an author who wrote about the crash for salon.com. we should mention she hasn't had a drink in 17 years but believe she can relate to this young mother. we'll ask susan about that. also with me from orlando is laura d mooney, for mothers against drunk driving. her husband, mike, was killed by a drunk driver going the wrong way. and in los angeles, howard

samuels joining us again. good to see you, howard. >> good to see you, campbell. >> let me start here, so many people heard about this crash and thought how could this happen? how could this mother have done this. they were shocked. you have a little bit of a different take on this. >> well, i see people demonizing this mother, and exonerating her, what she did was against the laws of man and god. we live in a culture drinking with good press talks about beer. we live in a culture of driving. when these two cultures intersect, it's a disaster they interact often. in other words, 36 people a day die of drunk driving. let's let the families mourn their children. that happened two weeks ago. let's try to save the 36 people who are going to die tomorrow because of drunk driving. let's look at ourselves. let's look at our culture, instead of pointing the finger at something that's already

happened. >> but did you see something in her? i don't know if you define yourself as an alcoholic. i know you haven't had a drink in a long time. but did you relate to her on a personal level? >> i think i related to her mostly as a mother. in other words, having five little children in the car is certainly an amount of stress that i never inflicted on myself. so i can imagine that if you dealt with stress with vodka, that you might drink quite a lot of it. but as i say, i think that we should leave this behind. she's dead. she can't be punished any more. i feel like this is an opportunity for us to look forward and see what in our culture aloud this to happen. everyone around her said, oh, we didn't know, we didn't know. is that because our culture is so alcoholic that we don't even notice when somebody has a problem that leads to this magnitude of tragedy? >> let me go to dr. samuels on this. "time" magazine had a story this week that basically says this accident is a wake-up call of

sorts to women. pretty hard to scare an addict straight. is it a wake-up call, in your view? >> well, i think it's an opportunity because, listen, i've been on the front lines of fighting addiction and alcoholism for close to 20 years. and, you know, this is nothing knew with women. i mean, it's women, it's men. it's working class. it's celebrities. it's across the board. alcoholism takes no prisoners. and, you know, she, obviously, to me was an alcoholic. you don't ingest that kind of level of alcohol and smoke pot on an outing with your children unless you're an alcoholic. so what has to happen here is that we have to use this as an opportunity to educate the families. to me, the crime is that family was oblivious to the sign that this woman had been an alcoholic and drinking to that kind of extent. that's why we need to use this as an opportunity to talk about this. i mean, i'm going to come up on

25 years clean and sober on sunday. okay? i've spent my life fighting this disease because i am a recovering addict/alcoholic. and there are so many people out that need help, and we need to get them some help before they kill more people. >> dr. samuels, you said that both women and men handle addiction differently. why are women addicts, sometimes, better, as we've heard a number of people say, at hiding it? >> well, i think, because, you know, they become more isolated. they're at home, they're taking care of their kids. i've dealt with a lot of women and mothers who take pills during the day. they drink during the day. they're isolated. they get depressed. there's much stress with raising kids. it is probably one of the most stressful jobs you can have as an individual. i think the mothers do need support groups and help in order to deal with that and not become so isolated.

>> let me let you respond. >> i think there's tremendous pressure on women to drink. women will spread their addictions much thinner. there will be a little alcohol, a little overeating, a little sexual acting out, a little with money to make it look okay. >> let me ask you, when you struggled with alcohol, did you hide it? >> nobody ever thought i had a drinking problem. >> let me go to laura. i apologize only now getting to laura. we were having technical problems with your signal there. it's ironic, you're representing mothers against drunk drivers here. drunk driving among women up 29% in the last ten years. is that surprising? >> well, it is surprising, but not terribly surprising. women are picking up the bad habits that men have. men are still the leading

drinkers and the people who cause the most crashes. this is an example of tragedy. a woman got caught by dieing in a drunk driving crash. my heart breaks for those families. like you mentioned, i lost my husband in a wrong-way drunk driving crash, too. this is another bad example about how people make terrible decisions. people don't have to drink and drive. perhaps she could have done something different. she chose to do something different. the our belief is that every kid deserves a sober driver. >> very good point there. laura dean mooney joining us from atlanta. appreciate it. >> howard samuels from los angeles. thanks, howard. >> thank you, campbell. >> appreciate it. when we come back, did a tv host actually sanction murder so he could jack up the ratings? we're going to look at why police are making that amazing accusation. ...

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anybody who works in television will tell you ratings are a matter of life and death. well, we don't usually mean that literally, but a tv host in brazil may not have gotten the memo. police say his tv crime show was always first on the scene of a killing because he ordered the

murders himself. mike galanos is back with us. what's going on here? >> i remember listening to somebody, his tag line was if you don't like the news, make your own. that is the accusation here. the guy in question is wallace souza, brazilian tv host. you laid it out there. he's accused of ordering at least five hits. they're first on the scene. they bring the footage. that's how they're getting contentses for the tv show. a little background on giant. he's a former cop. had a hit show in 1989, parlayed that into a political career. let's fast forward. the guy's on the scene in brazil. let's fast forward to the show. it's called "canal livre." they say he use the journalism and the investigative technique. here's what the cops are saying about the investigation. let's listen. >> the big theme was how crime

was going out of control. it turned out he may have been part of a crime wave in which his tv show was also first on the scene at these murders which helped rates sufficient. >> all right. there you have it. again, creating content for the show, as you said, campbell. to drive up the ratings. you wonder where they get the information. police are telling the associated press, former employees, security guards who work for the souza, allegedly part of a agang, former police officers involved in drug trafficking. that's where they got the info here. >> mike, any information? have you heard anything from souza himself? >> yes, first of all, denies all allegations. denying everything. and we've heard it. we've heard it in the newsrooms. oh, we have good sources. we listen to police scanners. you got to wonder, campbell, how are you first on the scene at least five times over. you're beating the police to every one of these murder scenes. >> yeah. >> of course, you promo your

show right there. hey, we're first. >> some very good sources, interesting. mike galanos with the story for us first. mike, thanks. >> thanks, campbell. when we come back, farrah fawcett's best friend. she was there with her when diagnosed with kangser and her last breath. alana stewart shares her courageous battle. ( chirp ) oh yeah-- his and hers. - ( crowd gasping ) - ( chirp ) van gogh? ( chirp ) even steven. - ( chirp ) mansion. - ( chirp ) good to go. ( grunts ) timber! ( chirp ) boss? what do we do with the shih-tzu? - ( crowd gasps ) - ( chirp ) joint custody. - phew! - announcer: get work done now. communicate in less than a second with nextel direct connect. only on the now network. deaf, hard of hearing and people with speech disabilities access www.sprintrelay.com. o! than a second with nextel direct connect. only on the now network. oisommpor ntnoh! hea it's critical that i stick to my medication. i cannot be one of the 61 million americans

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many of us were struck by the bravery that farrah fawcett displayed in the last few months of her life. we saw her battle with cancer first hand and a documentary shot by her longtime very close friend alana stewart who traveled the world alongside faucet searching for a secure. now, alana stewart is sharing her memories out of her own diary.

in the new book, "my journey with farrah, a story of life and love." tell us, how you found out that farrah had cancer? she didn't tell you, did she? >> i heard from my daughter. we were out of the country. my daughter said, does farrah have cancer. i said, what are you talking about? she said on the internet. i said that's ridiculous. i went to the phone to call her to make sure. she took a long time to come to the telephone. and my heart sank because i knew something was wrong. when i answered i asked her if she was okay. and she started to cry and said, no, and she told me. i couldn't believe it. she was the last person in the world i or anyone else would have ever thought would get cancer. she was so beautiful and strong and healthy. and she seemed indestructible. >> you were so close to her.

and so close to ryan o'neal. so much has been written about them. about their 30-year partnership. what was their relationship like? do you think he truly was devoted to her? >> i believe the two of them were devoted to each other. i mean, for 30 years of ups and downs. it was a volatile relationship. and there were times they weren't together. but they always stayed in touch. they always loved each other. and i kind of always knew they'd end up together? >> really? >> yeah, i really did. and he did ask her to marry him toward the end. and she did say yes. and if she had lived, i think they would have gotten married. >> farrah obviously a celebrity. frankly, month aren't that, you could say an icon, really. she was. this book, though, is more of a universal story about fighting cancer, isn't it? >> it's about fighting cancer and it's a tribute to her and her battle and her courage and her inspiration. it's also a tribute to

friendship. it's a tribute to our friendship and it's a tribute to the bond between two women going on this journey together. and all the life lessons that i learned through this journey. >> and you didn't sugar-coat things in this book. i mean, you didn't. you made a point of really putting it all out there. >> i didn't because farrah didn't want to sugar-coat things in the documentary. she was the one that made me film things that i was squeamish about filming. or sometimes, i'd think it was too invasive. she'd go, no. film it, because this is what cancer is like. people need to know this. if she was going to do it she was going all the way, you know. >> she saw herself as sort of a role model for victims. >> because people wrote her letters saying thank you for your courage and inspiration. and she also talked about her cancer. anal cancer, which say cancer that people were embarrassed to talk about.

she got so many letters from women in particular saying, thank you for talking about this. i don't feel ashamed. i have the kind of cancer that farrah fawcett has. >> you're honest about with what you struggled with. how you talked about this. how you talk to someone who has cancer. >> well, i think anyone who is friends with or a parent of or a loved one, or may have anyone struggling with a terminal disease, whether it be cancer or anyone else. i think you go through a whole emotional roller coaster yourself. and there's a lot of uncertainty. there were times that i was terrified. i was frightened. i was uncertain. i didn't know if i was doing the right thing and saying the right thing. and yet, you have to be strong for that person. i mean, farrah was very strong and very determined and had incredible courage. and she kind of brought out my courage. and i found in her strength that i never knew i had. i used to faint at the sight of an a hang nail.

i found this incredible strength within me that i think comes from a higher power. >> finally, i've just got to ask you, one of the things i love is, you write a lot about food in this book. you spent a lot of time cooking together. a lot of us think, my god, they're hollywood stars. they've got cooks or chefs. you're in the kitchen a lot. >> either one of us had cooks or chefs. we love to cook. that's how we bonded in the first place. there's nothing that made us happier than staying home on christmas eve and making pecan pies or tex-mex food. we love to read. >> it's a fascinating read, alana stewart. thank you for coming on. >> thank you so much. >> we'll be right back.

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hearts and minds with few, if any, boundary. even children's television is fair game. the muppets teaching kids to spell and count just like here in america, as chief international correspondence christianne klein shows us, the breakout story, the innocent stop right there. >> reporter: a teenager with a gun. a boy who strapped a bomb to his body. these are the images that many in the west have of palestinian youth. hamas, the party and power in gaza, makes no excuse for preaching violent resistance to children. hamas runs this weekly program for kids. [ speaking in foreign language ]

one of hamas' political leaders. >> with the mickey mouse and the jihadis and the suicide bombers, what lesson are you trying to teach the children? >> they have to be well because they are the future. that's why we keep our dignity and our independence, we have to sacrifice a lot of lives. we're either victorious, or we die for the cause. >> reporter: the hamas message is everywhere. >> we have no chance to win with the israelis with violence. militarily, we have no chance. >> reporter: he reaches the children with an american innovation, much pets. >> why did you choose the muppets. thing that the muppets do.

>> reporter: he produces the palestinian version of "sesame street." ♪ >> reporter: elmo from the american show speaks air arabic. it teaches children numbers and alphabet. the palestinian muppets, a fiery girl monster and an energetic rooster have a very special role, muppet diplomacy. listen to they're saying. muppet diplomacy it says here in the "sesame street" book, is there such a thing? is it possible to win hearts and minds and change behavior through a muppet show? >> boys see their parents being

humiliated, they think they're the men of the house. we're trying to tell them your energy is okay. let's channel it in a different way. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> and girls? >> we want girls to be proud of themselves and their culture. we had a problem with at one time children not being proud of being palestinian. >> reporter: unlike real palestinian boys and girls, muppets can travel anywhere. into gaza or into jerusalem's old city. to visit places that are important to palestinian culture. >> we cannot teach children respect for anybody else before they have pride and respect in their own society. >> and a whole lot from christianne klein. her reporting on generation