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headquarters in atlanta. you're live in the "cnn you're live in the "cnn newsroom." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com arkansas, montana, light-years from the corridors of power, so today power comes to them. members of congress and president obama holding health care town halls in those states and more as we near the halfway point in a make-or-break month. the big event of the day starts an hour and 45 minutes from now. president obama in big sky country pitching reform to what may be the toughest audience yet. you'll see it live right here in the "cnn newsroom." i just hope he rests easy finally. i hope it gives his family some peace. captain scott speicher's navy buddies speaks for the entire country, really, as the gulf war pilot is honored and laid to rest. early this morning thousands of people began lining the streets of jacksonville, florida, for captain speicher's funeral

procession, after a public memorial at the city's veteran wall, the motorcade slowly driving by his church, his old high school, bound for a private family burial. this final salute comes 18 years after he was shot down over iraq and disappeared. his remains found by u.s. marines last month. ♪ ♪

♪ >> captain michael scott speicher was 33 years old when he was shot down on the first night of the first gulf war. eunice kennedy shriver is being tearfully remembered as a humble woman who spent her life in service of others. a private funeral mass was held today for the special olympics founder and presidential sister

who died tuesday at the age of 88. daughter maria shriver and son-in-law, governor arnold schwarzenegger, crowded into pews alongside hundreds of other mourners. among the invited guests, vice president joe biden, oprah winfrey and stevie wonder. senator ted kennedy was not at the cape cod church. you'll recall he's battling brain cancer. his wife attended in his place, though. lynette "squeaky" fromme, a follower of charles manson, a notorious name in american history and now a free woman. the 60-year-old left a combination texas prison and mental hospital today after spending more than 30 years behind bars for trying to assassinate president gerald ford in 1975. fromme was 26 when she pointed a gun at ford in sacramento, california, a year after he became president. secret service agents grabbed her, and she got a life term. fromme was eventually granted parole despite a 1987 escape attempt in which she said she wanted to be closer to manson.

manson is serving a life term in california for the murders of actress sharon tate and eight others. an airport hangar in belgrade, montana, not a town hall, per se, but next hour it will be the center of the health care be date in america. president obama is on his way to a very small town in a very big state with a pretty low regard for government. our ed henry joins us now from the neighboring town of big sky. so, ed, why montana? >> reporter: well, kyra, look, this president realizes, that as you noted, in big sky country, a lot of people do not trust the federal government. i talked to very top white house aides who say, look, in private they admit that the president's critics have gained a lot of ground by really harping on this argument that it's a federal takeover of the health care system. and the president's aides say in private, look, after all the federal bailouts, the auto industry, banks, et cetera, people are fed up with the federal government getting involved in their lives. they realize that at the white house. and so they're trying to push back on that. and the president coming to what

might not be that friendly territory. he certainly made a strong run here in the mountain west. won some of the states like colorado and nevada, but did not win montana. he came close. but he tried to show in the campaign last year that he was not afraid to go to states like this that many democrats have given up in recent years on. and he wanted to show that he's willing to take his critics head-on and you are seeing some of the arguments become quite heated that he can have a passionat but reasoned debates, his aides say, with some of his charpest critics. i talked to people who waited on line for tickets to the hall, democratic allies of the president, they were thank youing to people online who were clearly conservative republicans, they wanted to give the president a piece of their mind. they got tickets as well. he might hear a lot more tense remarks than he's heard at other town halls, what's important about this is a pivotal moment in barack obama's presidency. he's laid so much on the loo win this health care reform debate, if he can pull out victory

against the odds now, it will show obviously he's got a lot of clout. on the flip side, if this effort fails, it will be very difficult for the rest of his first term to get his legislative agenda back on track here. >> you bring up a good point. as we've been watching the forum, we've seen so many people -- a lot of people step up to the plate and confront their congressmen, congress women, senators, and some of them have gotten pretty ugly. there's been a number of arrests at these forums. what do you think? do you think it could turn into something like that with the president of the united states? >> reporter: anything's possible. i doubt it, though, because my expectation -- i just got off the phone a short time ago with the democratic governor of this state, byron schweitzer, who said, i get it there are critics out there and you found them in the last 24 hours in the stories we're doing, but he said bottom line here in the big sky country, the people will be polite and respectful with the president. the governor that will be there expects a reasoned debate.

we'll see obviously. some of the people that are speaking to on the ground, they are obama supporters. they voted for change. they may have voted republican in other elections, but they wanted to give the president a chance. by and large they feel that the president is doing a good job. some of them are saying, look, while there might be a crisis in health care, they may be taking on too much on top of the bailouts and the stimulus, the $787 billion, and the t.a.r.p. money, $700 billion, a lot of obama voters, not mccain voters, say they have real concerns. this is the president's chance to meet the critics head-on, kyra. >> thanks so much. if you want to know more about the health care debate, check out the brand new health care in america website on cnn.com. you can see town hall highlights, fact checks and i-reports on demand and go to cnn.com/healthcare. he says he wants to be part of the solution and not part of the problem, but lots of folks still have a problem with

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michael vick says that we are a country of second chances, and he should know. the convicted dogfighter and former atlanta falcons star will be coming to a stadium near you this fall. the philadelphia eagles signing the quarterback for at least a year. at a news conference this morning, vick talked a little about his personal growth. >> we all use the excuse it was part of our culture, and, you know, i don't think that's an excuse, you know, i was, you know, kind of a, you know, abiding by that rule at the time. and, you know, as i grew older and as, you know, things kind of started to transpire, and then once i went to prison, you know, i had plenty of time to think

about what i did. and, you know, i seen people's reactions, and, you know, up until that point, i never really cared. i won't say i didn't care, but i never thought about it. now i understand that people care about their animals. they care about their health, you know, the welfare, the protection of animals. and now i do, so that's why i say if i can, you know, help more than i hurt, then i'm contributing, i'm doing what i need to do. >> well, what he needs to do, according to his new boss, jeffrey lurie, come through on his promises to work with the community and the humane society. the eagles owner warning, quote, there's no third chances, is if it isn't fulfilled the way we expect it to be, then it will be the end. the eagles fans are notorious for being hard to everybody, and there's strong feelings on both sides of this particular issue. brian smith is a sports attorney and b.e.t. analyst and philadelphia native and he broke

it down on cnn's "american morning." >> we've got players in the nfl right now who, you know, have been convicted of manslaughter and got less time than michael vick got. there's an element of people saying, you know what, it's not that big of a deal, he served 18 months of his life. but you will always find people that say you know what, every life is important. you've gotten dogs that were beaten and electrocuted and that's not going to be forgotten by a lot of people. but people in philly, if he goes on the field and performs, not every fan will forgive him, but they'll say he's a great player and that's what they'll go by. new orleans saints star reggie bush tweets i think it's great that mike vick has signed with the eagles! everyone deserves a second chance! the only person who can judge is god. and congrats on mike vick for landing on his feet in philly, he deserves to play, period. two air traffic controllers are under suspension and under

investigation as well after saturday's deadly crash over the hudson river. also we're seeing the first images of that collision that left nine people dead. cnn's susan candiotti has the new details and the new video. and i just want to warn you, also, you might find these images pretty disturbing. >> reporter: as investigators study this amateur video to find out what led to the terrifying midair crash over the hudson, there's more stunning information. an air traffic controller who was handling the piper airplane was on the phone with his girlfriend at the time of the crash. according to a source with knowledge of the investigation. what the faa in a statement calls, quote, inappropriate conversations. and there's more. the faa says the air traffic controller's supervisor was not in the building at the time as required. >> they're put in the tower to do a job, and if they're not doing the job, people can die, and in this case apparently they weren't doing the job. >> reporter: our source says the air traffic controller had already cleared the plane for takeoff from teterboro airport

in new jersey before talking with his girlfriend. the ntsb said the plane had been handed off electronically to the next tower down the line in newark, and then the plane disappeared from radar. the faa calls the conduct of the controller and his boss unacceptable, but says, quote, we have no reason to believe at this time that these actions contributed to the accident. >> we have somebody missing in action. we have someone else who's not doing their job. so, the negligence is there. the only question is whether that negligence had a role in this accident. the faa's already saying, well, maybe it didn't, but the faa stands to lose millions and millions of dollars, or the taxpayers do, if the faa's wrong. >> reporter: the faa says the two employees are now on administrative leave. the investigation's not over. ultimately the two could be fired. the national air traffic controllers association supports the investigation, but adds no one should rush to judgment about what at the very least could be described as bad

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pretty amazing, right? wow, kelly, come back down. >> try to land on your toes as well. >> reporter: i was up for a lesson. i was a bit nervous. >> if you're not scared, you're not human. >> reporter: a simple jump. >> yeah. >> reporter: yeah! >> not bad. >> reporter: and a ground roll. that was easy, but i know i'm not quite up to their standards just yet. >> accidents do happen. they do sort of happen professionally. they happen to beginners. >> reporter: the professionals are heading to london to compete. >> there's 27 athletes competing, 16 different nations. we have countries as far as australia, mexico, brazil, america. >> reporter: the freerunners say they feel like 21st century adventurers. >> what's cool about freerunning is the freedom it gives you. it lets your mind scan the horizon and you can sort areas. you know, you can go anywhere you like. >> the way it pushes you -- pushes you to do stuff in which

you wouldn't normally do to go outside your comfort zone. >> reporter: safety is really important. you have to start slow and stay low. all you really need is a pair of trainers and an open mind. and then the world is your playground. zain verjee, the freerunner, london. all right. we've got a newly named hurricane to tell you about, and i know that's really serious, butt it's really hard coming out of that piece with zain verjee doing summersaults, chad. >> what i wanted to do, i wanted to take the map here, i wanted to turn it upside down, and then turn the camera upside down and -- but, yeah, you know. we'll put the world back where it belongs. we'll be all right. >> thank you. exactly. we've got enough summersaults going on within the weather system. >> i don't have my trainers on, like that would help anyway. back out here to mexico, there's cabo san lucas. there's the next storm. it is called guillermo, with the

two "ls." but i do believe just like the other storm that we had out here, because there's hawaii, i do believe that this storm will travel to the north of hawaii. we're getting into much colder air here, even though it is a hurricane now. it probably won't be one for very long. watching the atlantic ocean. that was tropical depression number 2. it really died yesterday. there was nothing left. trying to flare back up right now. but i believe the bigger storm is back out here, just coming on to the screen right there. that would be tropical depression number 3 if it gets a number, and i do believe that it will. here's our stormpulse.com guys. drag this up here. we're going to move it on and make it much bigger for you so that you can see the storm. there, way out here, there's the storm. africa, still over here. i mean, so we're still very, very far away. if i touch, let's say, grand turk and look at the number, still 2915 away from the turks

and 2,300 miles from st. martin. but i believe the storm has potential. there's africa and the middle of atlantic and there's miami and jacksonville and the like. let's just touch miami because we can, 3,5 nick miles away. this storm you can see it. you can see the cloud cover compared to what that was, 92. that may be the first named storm. still don't have one. still looking for, ana, a-n-a. we are still looking for the winds out west to die down tonight, but for now they are still pretty gusty. not so much this morning. there's san jose. there's san francisco. that right there would be santa cruz. do you know the first thing i'm going to do? i'm going to zoom right into this area because i can. and i will take you to the trueviewer and find out what the winds are like. what they are like in santa clara, waning at 15 miles an hour. down here in santa cruz, pretty calm, 1, 2, 5. this is really where the fire is. so, we will try to get the fires under control today, with an awful lot of air support, but

later on this afternoon when the sun comes up and the canyons start to heat up, we could see numbers up to 20 and that will make the fire start jumping, kyra. >> we'll follow it with you, chad. thank you. >> you're welcome. i want to talk about one more thing. and i'm not talking about you when i say huge, gas tgasty, an bloated up. but we're talking about a freaky planet outside of our solar system. >> isn't that amazing? >> wasp 17. should we get technical talking about 1,000 light-years away. >> it is forever away. >> it's odd. for one thing it's so darn big and it's about twice the size of jupiter, right? >> way bigger than that, even. >> even bigger than that? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. but look at the distance from the earth and one light-year and all numbers, it's like the national debt. it's the national debt away. >> i never learned how to count that high. i want to make it perfectly clear right now. it took me a while to look at

the numbers. >> and it's going the wrong way in the solar system and it's so far out there past pluto, there might be something new. wasp 17, google it and you will find out lots of new things about the planet out there. >> scientists think it had a close call with a larger planet as well, by the way, and i guess it threw its orbit out of whack and that's why this is happening, does that make sense? >> it does. it's the same reason why when you're trying to take the big spaceship, remember when we sent the lunar things and the orbiters out to other planets, we would launch them out to the moon because they would give them a swing and the whole thing would make it faster and they think that's why it's going the wrong way, because it had enough of a swing from something else that -- there it is, right there. 4,000 light-years away. look at the size of that thing. and then you have to compare to it earth and jupiter, and actually, jupiter's considerably bigger than that than the earth.

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some new rules in the government's cash for clunkers program that could make it easier to get the car of your dreams. cnn's susan lisovicz joining me now from the new york stock exchange with more on that. we're also checking back with our favorite florida car dealer earl stewart who says uncle sam still owes him a lot of money. he's waiting on that. susan, let's start with you and kind of get an update on the program. >> well, let me set the table for you, kyra, and earl. this program, cash for clunkers, is not even one month old, and already we've got a new and improved program on the way. for consumers, uncle sam will offer us a voucher program which will give us more choice, because it will allow to us buy cars that are not yet on dealer

lots. previously or i should say presently, you could only buy what was available, and many dealers are running out of cars due to their popularity. for dealers, well, they're just not being paid quickly enough. and i think earl has plenty to say about that. one of the problems is that the tsa, the government, the national transation safety administration has 200 workers processing the reimbursements. there are reports that that will be greatly expanded and a lot of problems are simply with the paperwork. has to come back and forth and hard working dealers like earl aren't getting paid fast enough, and the bills are racking up. kyra? >> how much money does government owe you, because you've been successful with the cash for clunkers? >> we've been too successful. a lot of clunkers on the ground and not enough cash in the bank. i've got 69 clunkers that the

government owes me now round numbers $700,000. also remember the salvage value of the clunkers is not something i can collect until i deliver it to the salvage company and i'm afraid to have the cars scrapped until i get payment from the government. so, i'm really caught between a rock and a hard place on this situation. it's serious. >> let me ask you, with the $700,000 that the government owes you, are you in trouble, or are you okay? >> it's $700,000, let's get that straight. >> it's a lot of money. >> fortunately, i'm well capitalized, and we're going to continue to sell cars. and i will continue to sell cars. and believe in the full faith and responsibility of the united states government to pay money that they owe me. but there are some dealers out there, i'm sure, that are thinly capitalized, and at some point a dealer just can't afford to make a clunker transaction, because each one is a negative cash flow. average profit on a new car's about $1,000. if the government owes $4,500, every time you make $1,000,

that's $35,0,500 in the hole, t arithmetic shows that a lot of them will have to stop doing transactions. >> the average profit margin for this program $100 when you're supposed to get paid up to $4,500, that's very different than just a few years ago, right? when the average profit margin was, i would imagine, a lot higher. >> well, the average profit on a new vehicle varies from franchise to franchise and, of course, it does vary during economic times. during tough economic times, especially now, the average profit that a dealer makes on a car is only about $1,000. some profits are much less than that. the average dealer has several departments he operates from, parts, service, body shop, used car, new car. the new car department typically is a very low-profit department, and during economic times like this, we see them losing money. so, $1,000 sounds like a lot of money, but it's not really a lot.

and when you lose $3,500 in cash on the swap-out between the $4,500 that is owed you and the $1,000 that would you normally make, it's a pretty precarious situation. >> well, especially -- i'm sorry, kyra. >> no, that's okay. go ahead. >> especially when a few years ago when consumers were buying much bigger cars, more expensive cars, there were bigger profit margins. but let me ask you this, is one of the reasons, earl, that you are in a better position not only because you're a bigger dealership but because you offer financing to consumers? >> well, i basically -- i've been in business a long time. i sell a popular product, toyota, 35 years in business. and i have all my departments are quite profitable. so, you know, this economic situation has not affected toyota and honda, for example, as severely as it has some of the dodge stores, chrysler and gm and some of the marginal import franchises, too. so, i'm fortunate to have the capital. but a lot of devilers don't.

it's a serious problem. and dealers are reluctant to come forward and complain about it, because what dealer wants to get on cnn and say, you know, i'm undercapitalized, it looks like i'm going to go out of business and i can't sell cars under the clunker. you don't want your banker or your customers to hear that statement, but it's happening. >> all right, something that caught you'reour attention, we to ask you a couple of things. susan, i know you know your music. earl, you know your cars. let's see if you can name this tune. ♪ my maserati gets 185 >> i know where you're going. the maserati that's being clunked, right? >> earl, i want to get your opinion on this. we couldn't believe it. we're looking at pictures of it right now. apparently this is a 1985 maserati biturbo. the by that turned it in said it's in immaculate condition, and the dealership is saying i can't do this.

i can't dismantle this. it's not a clunke it's a classic. are you seeing that at your dealership? >> kyra, i am. it really saddens me. i don't have maseratis or ferraris that i'll be scrapping. i have 169 -- 159 cars so far that i'll be scrapping. 25% or 30% of those are really nice transportation. cars that could be bought for $3,000 $3 4,000, $5,000 in better times and a lot of people would love to have it. they save up $3,000 or $4,000, these cars are going off the market and being scrapped. >> it's a shame. >> yeah. >> so, do you think somebody could make more money selling that, then, versus turning it in in cash for clunkers? >> well, there's a line there. if you can get $4,500 from the government and you can only sell it for $4,000, you know, then obviously take the $4,500. but you're taking a $2,000 or $3,000 car and you're scrapping

it because you could get more from the government, meanwhile that car could be bought for $2,000, $3,000, $4,000 even if a dealer marked it up, and someone that has no credit, what choice of transportation do they have? and often charities are getting contributions of cars like this and the charitable contributions of cars has virtually dried up during this program. >> susan, i'm seeing part two to our segment here. we should work on the kharytable part of things. >> hopefully the new and improved cash for clunkers will settle a lot of the problems that we've seen in the first few weeks of the program. >> well, we'll keep talking about it, that's for sure. susan lisovicz and earl stewart, thanks, guys. >> good luck, earl. >> thank you. thank you very much. well, august is a make-or-break month for health care reform in the u.s., and we're also looking at how other nations stack up. germany's universal health care program is lauded as one for the united states to emulate. cnn's frederick flight gen takes

us on a visit to his doctor's office. >> reporter: the most important thing if you want to go to the doctor in germany is your health insurance card. i am publicly insured which is not a problem here. hi, how are you doing, sir? >> very good. >> reporter: thank you very much, sir. germany has two parts of health insurance, public and private. all the way to the top? under any plan, visits like my routine physical are covered. >> they are treated either private or they are other patients. >> reporter: universal health care. germany has one of the oldest systems in the world. founded in 1883 by the first german chancellor on theo von bismarck with a principle unchanged today, everyone must be covered, and ideally everyone should get equal treatment. most germans are insured under the public plan which is not funded by taxes. employees pay half the premium while employers pay the other half to insurance companies that are heavily regulated by the

government. here at berlin's hospital, the director says that means world class health care for everyone. >> if you go to the emergency room or if you go to an outpatient doctor, you can get as a child vaccination and as an adult liver transplant without difference between people. >> reporter: and dr. frei says even with universal health care the cost per patient is lower in germany than in the u.s. sound too good to be true? well, it is. at least if you're a doctor. they make much less here than physicians in places like the u.s., sweden or the uk. so, many german doctors like this one travel to sweden or the uk on weekends to better their paycheck. "i make about six times as much here in the uk as i would in germany," this doctor says. >> first i try to get a general impression of the tension of your body. >> reporter: my public health

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meningitis or polio shot, your doctor would be concerned. but a lot of people are talking about gardasil and many physicians are allowing parents to delay the shots which are supposed to be given at age 11 or 12. here's the concern. there are reports that after getting gardasil some girls and women have what are called adverse events which is a fancy way of saying bad things happen after the shot, including neurological disorders and blood clots and death. to make a couple of things clear, just because something bad happens after the vaccine, does not mean the vaccine caused it. merck and the cdc have been extremely clear that it could be a coincidence that these things are happening. second of all, there have been 24 million doses of gardasil and only about 13,000 reports of things going wrong. so, when you look at it, it's really a tiny percentage. but, still, reading about these kind of adverse events making people nervous. plus, kyra, people are nervous because this shot's only been out for a little over three

years and some parents said to me, i don't know what the long-term effects are. i just don't know what they are. it hasn't been out that long. >> and your column, it's getting a lot of chatter on this issue. how can folks get directly to this on cnn.com? >> you want to go to cnn.com/empoweredpatient or you can also go to cnnhealth.com and you'll see, should you get your daughter gardasil? and you'll notice at the end there's a sound off, so you can make a comment. have you decided not to do it? have you decided to wait? what makes this even more interesting is it's sexally transmitted disease, so you get it for your daughter at age 11 or 12 before they become sexually active. and some parents are saying, why should i do it that early, why shouldn't i wait until it's closer? >> i think you should have a better conversation with your kids. how about pediatricians, what are they saying to the parents that don't want to use it? >> it's interesting. i thought they would be saying absolutely you have to get it, the cdc says you have to. but a lot of them are saying,

hmm, if you want to wait, that's an okay thing. take a look at what three pediatricians are tell parents. you can go to an interactive that's up on our website at cnnhealth.com. and we have three parents talking about what they want to do with gardasil and three pediatricians giving advice to those parents. >> appreciate it, elizabeth. >> thanks. nice to go, oreo collins, what's next for you, college, enternship, take a year off, backpack through europe? but one question for you, how does a cat get a g.e.d.?

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dealer. >> i was in jail. >> reporter: there was a time these men couldn't be together on the same los angeles street corner. >> reporter: two years ago, could you have seen yourself working side by side like this? >> no. >> reporter: why? >> we come from different backgrounds, different gangs. >> reporter: former gang rivals carpool together to their job. and work side by side installing home solar systems. >> we treat each other like normal human beings. we get along straight. >> reporter: albert ortega learned the trade by taking solar insulation classes paid for by home boy industries, they have been working with former gang members for more than 20 years. the classes offered albert a chance to break into alternative energy programs. home boy industries, led by

father gregory boyle, pays the class fee. he says it is a lot cheaper than incarceration, which costs taxpayers $45,000 a year. >> what's your alternative to not trusting them? on the one hand, this is a thing that actually helps keep our streets safe. this is what you call smart on crime. >> this man right here, if you see his logo, his motto is, j j, not jail. >> reporter: after spending ten years behind bars, richard now has homework duty and is finally learning what it means to be a father. >> a real father is somebody that takes interest in their kids. >> reporter: how hard is it? >> it's hard.

it's one of the hardest things in life, being a parent. >> before, he was more immature. now, he knows what his responsibilities are. >> reporter: now, richard says, it is all about his kids. what do you want for your daughter's future? >> i want her to become somebody in this world. >> reporter: he says, for the first time, he is looking to the future with confidence. he is up for a promotion at work and richard says he knows he can sport his family. thelma gutierrez, cnn, los angeles. >> thelma said the family is doing really well, by the way. home boy industries needs your help. check this out. it's home boy-industries.org. the nonprofit is hoping to clean up through a virtual car wash and a pretty creative video. >> i gave $10 to home boy and

you should too. >> i gave $10 and i'm unemployed. >> i can't pay my taxes and i gave $10. >> i gave $10 and i just had a baby. >> i donated $10 today to make the streets safer for my children and yours. >> your $10 can help keep home boy industries from heading to a dead end. belgrade, montana is a long, long, long way outside the beltway. that's precisely why it is on the radar for president obama for the health care debate and for us in the "cnn newsroom." we are pushing forward on a make or break month with small towns looming large all across america. lawmakers are still holding what some are calling listening sessions, while the president travels to big sky country and what may be his toughest pitch for reform. ed henley is there. >> reporter: spend a day in the tiny town of livingston, montana. you quickly see why the president's health care push is

facing big problems in big sky country, even from those he is trying to help. >> we have two kids. my husband is the only one working. >> reporter: sandra mcdonald is uninsured. she gets discounted dental work at a local clinic. she is worried about the details of reform. >> i believe that there is a health care crisis. i really do. die belie do i believe that the government needs to be more involved? whenever they get their fingers in the pot, it kind of just turns black. >> reporter: a common sentiment here where a second obama voter told us, government is too big. >> we have spent so much money on the stimulus and the tarp and then we are going to add another huge entitlement in the form of the public option. >> reporter: the movie, "a river runs through it" was filmed near here. people love their fly fishing. >> the west is all about

independence and do it my way and i don't need anyone to tell me what and how to do. when government gets too involved in our lives, there is some discomfort. >> reporter: they are comfortable with the federal government at that local clinic known as community health partners. taxpayers pick up 50% of the $4 million annual budget. >> we are able to provide health care to someone who walks through the door regardless of their ability to pay. >> which brings us back to sondra mcdonald who wants more of the clinics around the country even when we told her the fed picks up much of the cab. >> the government being involved is fine. when they try and overstep, when they try and say, no, this is what needs to be done -- >> reporter: that is part of the challenge for the president here today here in montana trying to reassure people about whether the government is going to take over the health care system by pointing out, look, the federal

government is involved helping people. medicare, a popular program helping millions of senior citizens. i spoke earlier to the governor of this state, brian schweitzer, a democrat. he said he is expecting a healthy debate. democrats as well as republicans will be in the town haull. he said, look, in this town of montana, people are respectful. i thought i would put on my stetson. >> i wondered if you were going to pull that out. is that hat too small for you? whose is that? >> i was going to tip you, kyra. >> i would like a different kind of tip, ed. we will talk about that later. 2:45 eastern time, ed, going out with all his glory in his cowboy hat. the president stepping up at 2:45 eastern time. let's head over to brianna keilar. she is in arkansas. do folks there appreciate the leverage that the congressman

has as a conservative democrat? >> reporter: yes, some of them certainly do appreciate the leverage that congressman mike ross has as a conservative democrat. some people told us they think he is in the right place in the middle of this issue. some people who are opposed to the democrats push for health care reform right now say that their congressman is a fence sitter. those were a couple of opponents. well be hearing from some folks like that inside this auditorium when mike ross holds a town hall meeting here in about an hour. we are also going to be hearing from some of these folks behind me, no doubt, supporters of the democrats push for health care reform. mike ross is this democrat in a conservative district. a lot of conservative democrats are taking cues from him on how to handle the health care issue. >> hope, arkansas, the home town of the last president who tried to reform health care and of congressman, mike ross, a prominent member of the conservative blue dog democrats. ask folks here and they will tell you tirks not easy being

mike ross. >> he is in the hot spot. >> reporter: concerned the house of representatives was rushing health care reform and that it cost too much, ross and other blue dogs forced democratic leaders to pair down their bill and lay a full house bill until september, something he points out to constituents. >> i am the guy that led the charge in standing up and stopping this thing from a floor vote before august 1st. >> reporter: that put him at odds with much of the liberal democrats. the rnc is running this radio ad in had his district. >> mike ross did exactly what nancy pelosi wanted him to do. he caved in and buckled. >> reporter: he says he is right where his constituents want him to be. >> it is rare you get the extreme right and left mad at you all at the same time. that tells me maybe we have found the right balance here. >> reporter: the balance, he tells more than 6,000 people on

a telephone town hall is simple, slow down and do it right. >> we've been trying to get this done since harry truman. >> reporter: an hour and a half on the phone, no outburst. his next health care event, answering questions face to face. >> say a prayer for me tonight for my town hall meeting tomorrow. >> reporter: this town hall meeting should get underway in the next hour. kyra, i have to tell you, the capacity of the auditorium behind me where congressman ross will be speaking, 960 people. so quite a lot of people can fit in there. he told me he didn't think it would be full. i think we will wait and see if that's the case or not. >> we will wait with you. i know you want to know more about the ins and outs of health care reform. we have a great new resource, elizabeth cohen jioins me to shw off a brand new site. >> it is terrific. there are so many rumors going on. you can get the truth at

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another bank headed for failure. a buyer may already be lined up. poppy harlow has our breakdown from new york. hey, poppy. >> the story that's been developing since last night, dow jones now reporting bb&t, the southern bank will buy colonial bank. the fdic won't confirm that. bb & t is also a big mortgage lender. this news on colonial coming as a federal judge says that the

bank with 355 branches across the south is on the brink of collapse. no confirmation from the fdic. the judge froze assets in a dispute that colonial had with bank of america. this is the latest trouble for colonial. it's mortgage lending and accounting practices are under federal investigation. it is one of two banks raided earlier this month by federal agents. today, people questioning the health of this bank and will or won't it be taken over by regulators? >> if colonial collapses, how big a failure are we talking about? >> pretty big. you have branches in alabama, florida, georgia, nevada, and texas. about $25 billion in assets there. if it does not survive, it would be the sixth largest bank failure in u.s. history. you see the largest five on your screen in front of you. it also, clearly, kyra, would be

the biggest failure this year. you need to know you are protected by the fdic in terms of savings. >> what do customers need to know exactly? >> first of all, don't panic. we talk about these bank failures. you think of indymac. the fdic backs up $250,000 per account that's protected by the fdic. at any bank, they ensure that. the limit was raised from $100,000 last year during the height of the banking crisis. there are certain situations where you might have multiple accounts at a bank and you will still be insured on all of them at the bank. if you have a joint account with a spouse, that would be insured as well as your individual account. to find out, what you want to do is logon to my fdic insurance.gov. check to make sure you are under those limits so you are fully protected, kyra. that's really important. we are staying on top of this

story. we may hear something in a few hours. >> let us know, poppy. >> we will. let's follow up on some stories. first, the fight club in texas. devel developmentally disabled adulted forced to beat the hell out of each other so the staff could have a few laughs. they are not laughing now. next step for jesse salazar, punishment. this is the first conviction in the case. we understand who are indictments could be coming. we will stay on top of this. to the so-called deadbeat dad in georgia, dna tests prove that he was not the father in a child support case but he was still ordered to pay back child support for the time he was believed to be the dad. well, he lost his job. he lost his home. he got behind in those payments and he wound up in jail. for more than a year, by the way. so he finally got out of jail but there was a chance he would

still owe that back child support. the update, a georgia judge has cleared hatly of any more payments. it makes you wonder if the system for the real deadbeat here and how much georgia owes him for his month in jail and the money he paid for the child that wasn't even his. a daycare center should be a safe place for a baby, right? julia castillo doesn't think so. she says her nine-month-old son, christian was left alone for nearly an hour after workers left for the night. mom came back to pick up the baby at "my special place" to find the baby. a neighbor broke the window and they found him crying in a crib. >> he was crying because he listened to the noise when i touched the windows hard.

>> the daycare owner says she didn't sign her baby in when she dropped him off in the morning. >> i don't want to get into it because i don't want to point fingers if it was the mother's fault. it happened. it was just a crazy mistake. >> a crazy mistake to say the least. rhode island's department of children, youth and families has put the center on location. you can talk about burgers and fries but don't mess with the donuts. a florida doctor tlaernd the hard way. jason used to run the bay county health department and was known for putting up signs like, television equals obese child and french fries equal thunder thighs but the dock sho shown t went do far saying america dies on dunkin. he said, two lawyers who own a

local dunkin' donuts, raised a fuss. they say, the doctor shouldn't name private businesses on government signs calling him somewhat of a zel lot. nearly 40% of adults are considered overweight in bay county in 2007. a make or break month for health care and disagreement over how to reform the system is bubbling over. think about this, 95% of people in one way of our recent polls say that some change is needed. just ask one suburban atlanta woman with a pre-existing medical condition. eddie cortex brings us her story as part of our photojournalist series, "health care in focus." >> about nine yearsing a, i wagi was diagnosed with crohn's disease. >> without my medication, it gets bad. >> she is very hard to live with when this flares up. >> i don't eat. i don't sleep. my weight starts to drop.

>> even the kids, when it would flare up, they would say, can we go somewhere? we need to get away from mom for a while. >> i am without medical insurance. i cannot get prescriptions that i am supposed to take everything today. i have doctors orders right now for different tests that i can't do because there is no way to cover it. we are making ourselves here with the business trying to just stay above float and it is like the water is at the nose. that's how close it is. we don't know where to turn, what to do. these are the pills, 400 milligrams each, $450 to $500 a month depending on where you go. none less than $450 anywhere except canada. i am supposed to take 12 a day. this keeps my crohn's under control. >> with her having crohn's disease, it does make it impossible for us to buy insurance that covers anything? >> it is voodoo. it is like crohn's is voodoo.

they don't want to touch it. it is pre-existing. when i call for a quote, they say, we won't cover crohn's. once they find out you have crohn's, even though they don't cover it, they rate the policy extremely high because you do have a disease. it is the one thing we need coverage on and the one thing we can't get. a vicious cycle. it's like a merry-go-round that you never get off of. >> three days of peace and music, 40 years of impact. after woodstock, nothing has ever been the same.

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would you stay in your house if you saw this coming? more than 2000 people said, no, way. they fled this rab i hadly growing fire called the lockheed fire. firefighters have contained only 5% of it, that's more than 0%

containment from yesterday. no injuries reported. a newly formed hurricane from the pacific. will that bring the firefighters any relief? how about it, chad myers? >> no chance. that is heading to hawaii. it is going to go north of hawaii and then die off just like the last one did. the firefighters could use anything. they could use a marine layer. they could use just a day of no wind, basically. so we'll take you right in here, because just south of san jose, that's where we want to get to. that's where the fire is. there is the u.s. on the west coast here as we zoom all the way down. we can drill down here just north of santa cruz. as we do, you will notice the topography. it is rough. it is not the sierra. we are not talking massive mountains. we are talking canyons, canyons filled with large trees as well, not just chaparral. we are talking big trees that are hard to get a line through, very hard to get some kind of a

break. there is the town of bonnie dune. all the way through this treed area and some canyons, that's where the fire is right now. we will zoom out and do i acouple more things, zoom out. we will zoom all the way in, because we can. for the true viewer, we will feel like what the wind will be. so let's go to the bend, about 11 miles per hour. santa cruz, ten miles an hour. a little bit on the coast near davenport, 11. i think that's a good number. if we get over 20, that will be the problem, kyra. >> we'll keep checking in. hippies, hair, and a whole lot of music. 40 years since woodstock, how is all that peace and love sounding now? stephanie elam takes a look at how the festival is reaching a whole new audience? >> reporter: prepared by a wave of new films and music compilations marking it's anniversary, woodstock is alive.

asked bohemian style icon, sienna miller. >> if i could have been at one event, i would have been there, historical event. woodstock to me -- i would have chosen woodstock. of any historical event? >> reporter: that is something that bobby columbia of blood, sweat, and tears has only recently come to assess. >> we had no idea this was anything but a large festival. there was no clue that it would become a defining moment in our culture, nothing like that. yeah, peace, man, isn't this love, brother? no, i didn't get any of that. >> reporter: the three days of peace and music in 1969 remain more than an isolated snapshot in time for the younger stars recreating it in the new big screen comedy, "taking woodstock." >> somebody like jimi hendrix r

janice joplyn is great to look for. >> reporter: it is not just baby boomers who are holding on to the woodstock mystique. >> reporter: for young people, there is a pay began element to festivals like woodstock, there is that irrational side of us that just wants to dance around and howl at the moon. >> the important thing that you have proven to the world is that half a million young people can get together and have three days of fun and music. >> reporter: it's size made woodstock momentous. >> there was half a million people and no mayhem. >> reporter: until that point shlgs no one music event had drawn just numbers. >> it was big. half a million people doesn't necessarily mean something is good. it just means it is big. >> the most important impact that woodstock had was on the rock concert business, not the record business. because this was the beginning of the need to figure out some

technological things, get that sound out there, get the lights on, keep it running. >> reporter: 40 years aft hippies left, woodstock has found new fans in a new age. >> i know i have used songs from woodstock that were played atwood stock for my acting. >> on the ipod? >> on the ipod, yeah. >> reporter: stephanie elam, cnn, new york. the falcons are behind him and today, michael vick is an eagle. we will hear from fans with ruffled feathers. teeth. check.

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florida. i'm just getting the information. so bear with me. it looks like what we are seeing here is a result of a fatal shooting on the miami turnpike. these live pictures are actually showing both directions of the turnpike have been shut down. this is what we are getting from our affiliate, wsbn, a florida highway patrol and davie police are on the scene here. they said it is the turnpike near griffin road in davie. both directions here on the turnpike closed down, as i mentioned. they are trying to investigate what happened here. the only thing that florida highway patrol is reporting is that it is not a traffic or a law enforcement shooting. you can see right there where they are counting the bullets. florida highway patrol is saying it is not a traffic or law enforcement shooting. the person appears to be inside

the burr gungundy car that we w looking at. do we call it the florida turnpike or the miami turnpike? florida turnpike. not the miami turnpike. it is the florida turnpike there in miami. it looks like the person -- a person was driving when he was shot and killed. no one else was in the car with the victim we're being told. so once again, homicide detectives on the scene and we'll continue to follow this and bring you more information as we get it. our hero of the week, new york-based chemistry teacher, jude namboki, has saved discarded computers for america's landfills and shipped them to kenya where 80% of high schools and 98% of primary schools are without them. he sows the seeds for our

nation's prosperity. students plant seeds of their own. >> i was coming at night. i see this computer thrown out. i found so many computers are thrown out and so many computers are needed in kenya. so i decided, i must do something. may name is jude. i take discarded computers and send them to kenya. they have very few resources. even a pencil, they have to get. any part that i can play to make the life of kids better is great. then, we label the name of the school on each box and ship it to kenya. the computers are saved from poisoning the environment and they are going to be used for 20 years by some school. every school is going to plant

100 trees for every computer. we are planting a seed, teaching the kids to conserve the environment and be engines of change. ♪ it is like giving the kids a new life. trees are being planted to bring new life too. they are so connected. you can find out more about jude or any of our other cnn heroes on cnn.com/heroes. keep an eye out. in a few weeks, we'll be announcing the top ten cnn heroes of 2009.

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craigslist. outraged eagles fans unloading their season tickets after the team announced they signed michael vick. those folks ask, how could you? the quarterback is focusing on other questions of how to prove he has changed and how to prove he can still play after all that time anyway. larry smith joins us live from phillie with more. can he answer those questions, larry? >> reporter: i don't know if he can answer that right now. that is the other game he is playing. can he answer them? can he continue to do the nationwide public speaking tour on behalf of the humane society and resume a career that was once one of the brightest in the nfl. michael vick, the journey begins now. the philadelphia eagles agreed to the two-year contract, the $1.6 million. it is a salary that is due to be paid in this season. it is not guaranteed. he may not get to play in a regular season game until week

six. michael vick today talking alongside his new head coach, andy reid and tony dungi. he has been a great resource as he tries to rebuild his life or career. michael vick will not replace the current starter, donovan mcnabb. he says, he wouldn't even expect to. >> i have been away from the game for two years. i i've got to start somewhere. i have to crawl before i walk. i can't imagine going out after a two-year hiatus, going out and trying to be a starter for a football team. i just don't think it could happen with as much god-given ability that i have, i don't think that i will be able to do it. i think i could but i wouldn't risk it. you know, i just need time to get my feet wet and get acclimated. >> well, michael vick served 18 months on a federal dogfighting sentence for charges related to

dogfighting. that has left some people here very upset. about a couple dozen protestors outside of the gates letting their views be known. as you mentioned, some of those tickets going up on craigslist some fans not very happy. this is a reality for michael vick regardless of how much he plays this season. he is only 29 years old. the headline reading, hide your dogs. even eagles owner, jeffrey lurie, who really got very emotional and was a bit upset in talking about the disdain he had for michael vick's actions in torturing and killing dogs. he said with the help of tony dungi, andy reid, he was able to get past that and do some soul searching and decide that the right thing to do was to sign michael vick and give him a second chance. >> it has been getting a lot of reaction. a lot of people are tweeting us about the newest philadelphia eagle. here is some of them.

one says, my mom has a saying, if a man can do that abuse to animals, god knows what he can do to people. no, i don't think he can change. this came from steve, not a good move. vic will destroyed the angels much like t.o. did. they even give child abusers another chance and let them live in your neighborhood. and another says, as a former prosecutors, i believe he can change. i haven't heard what i need to believe that he has at this time. his actions caused this. some of the local animal welfare advocates are not happy. a member of the pennsylvania governor's dog law advisory, tom hickey, had this to say. over the past three years, pennsylvania has made historic strides to bring attention to the abuse and neglect that so many dogs suffer in this state and country.

it's a heinous crime. >> let's bring in wayne. wayne, you are looking at this in a different way. you are saying this is a good move for phillie. >> i am not commenting on whether this is a good move for the philadelphia eagles. we have been the toughest critics of michael vick historically. we urged his prosecution. >> i am not talking about for the eagles but for the area. >> for the area, i think that our program to reach kids in urban communities, which michael vick has agreed to participate in. michael vick did some terrible things. no one who cares about animals can think anything but that but he did serve his time. we all applauded the judge's

sentence, the major animal welfare groups did. he now has come out of jail and says, he wants to help. we have urban-based, community-based programs to reach at-risk youth. we think vick can play a role. the goal is to eradicate dogfighting not have endless punitive treatment of michael vick. >> what do you think of animal welfare advocates saying, he should not be here and playing on this team and being a part of our area? >> i did a community corum resendly in philadelphia, totally unaware that the eggls might take him. a lot of the instinctive reactions toward his being involved in anti-dogfighting activities were negative. after it was explained, people thought that makes perfect sense. we want to turn an adversary into an ally. we want to take a terrible circumstance and turn it into

something positive. we went to atlanta and chicago together and spoke to kids with urban communities with pit bulls, kids at risk. michael spoke about his experiences and how it was horrible and bar bear rick. now he can't understand why he did it. he asked these kids to be part of the effort to end dogfighting in every community in america. so i can't see anything but positive. that doesn't wipe away what he did. he did serve his time. let's move forward and be productive. it doesn't help the situation just to attack vick at this point. we need to attack dogfighting. that's what we are proposing. >> wayne pacelle, we appreciate you calling in. >> thank you so much. live pictures for the air force landing in belgrade, montana. waiting for the health care town

hall to begin in just a few minutes. when that does, we'll bring it to you live. the search is on for hundreds of people in southern taiwan feared dead and buried. the violent storm is blamed in the deaths of more than 100 people in because of the typhoon. it literally wiped one village off the map. pauline choo is there with the latest. >> reporter: i am standing on what used to be kaohsiung village. there were two mudslides that came out and formed a lake. it overflowed and washed away the entire village. authorities believe there were at least 600 residents when the typhoon hit. no signs of life. just debris and mud.

they know there are no survivors here. so they kept going through that valley. they are headed towards another town inside the mountains called namasha. they know survivors are there. no ground crew has been able to reach that town all week. now that the roads are passable, a trickle of local residents are coming by to see the damage. we met one woman here who was sitting on a log, crying and praying. she lost seven family members in the mudslide here in. pauline chiou, cnn. some knew him personally, most didn't. thousands of people lined the streets of jacksonville this morning, all of them knew captain scott speicher deserved

a final good-bye. he was 33 when he was shot down in 1991. ♪ ♪ i never thought this would be the way you would come back home ♪ >> we would like to remember some of the final good-byes for the 382 other service members. the first marine corporate to die in desert storm was killed when his vet went down. the grieving widow for garedd mongrella. he was killed on january 29th, 1991.

we are moments away from a presidential health care pitch with a different geography. you see the president of the united states there with his girls and wife, of course, the first lady, michelle obama, landing there in belgrade, montana. ed henry is also there, joining us from big sky. he had to set the stage for the president's arrival just up the road there from where he is. ed, as we watch the president arrive, running a little behind schedule. that's okay. it probably won't take him long to get there and start this town hall. it will be interesting to see what kind of questions he receives and the tone, i guess you should say, of that question after all these town halls with other members of congress and various senators that people have been getting sometimes pretty fierce in these town halls. >> it has been. we talked to people who waited on long lines to get tickets. it was a farrell open process. so, unlike some other

presidential events where we have seen pretty friendly questioning. to be frank, we talked to some democrats on line to get tickets to this town hall basically sold out in terms of people showing up for the tickets. they said there were a lot of republicans on that line that they were talking to and debating respectfully yesterday in the early morning hours to get these tickets and these democrats were telling us, they think there will be republicans asking pointed questions of the president. look, the president by coming into relatively unfriendly territory, signaling that he is ready to get this debate on. i can tell you, he is going to hear it from all sides. it's not just republicans who have been very sharply opposed to his approach. you saw there are some democrats who said, we voted for president obama but we are concerned about him adding more government control. final lirks after my piece ran a short time ago in your show, we got an e-mail from a democratic activist who is saying, we don't just want to hear from the obama voters who are now upset with

him because they want a scale-back reform, not a major reform. they say they want something like single payer or a strong public option. we are upset the president and other democratic leaders, max baucus, from this state, seem to be signaling that it might be a scaled-back reform. it might not just be tough questions from republicans. there may be democrats saying, are you going soft on the public option? that's very important. i think we should also point out the fact that max baucus, the man leading these negotiations back in washington, hails from this state and you are hearing so many democrats, republicans, independence coming at this issue from all sides, might help illuminate why max baucus is taking his time. in his own state, there is a fierce debate going on about the best approach. that is important to remember. >> also, too, let's talk about the tone of this town hall. i mean, as we've been monitoring

not only the questions but also the myths and the rumors, that has become quite a big issue as well. it has been addressed in the white house briefings as you know. the president even came forward saying, okay, for example, i am hearing about these rumors regarding death panels. let me be clear one more time. it seems that there has been -- i don't know if it is because there are so many versions of these bills and everybody has a different interpretation of them and it becomes very confusing. not only is he having to push for his health care plan. he is also having to spend a lot of time debunking a lot of misinformation. >> he has but i would also point out that we've talked to some senior democrats, some inside the white house, some outside. they also say that it maybe took this administration a little bit of a long time to push back on some of those allegations. they are having a very fierce pushback, if you will, right now on the allegations of the

so-called obama death panel. people accusing the president of wanting, he said it is completely outrageous and wrong, saying he wants to encourage euthanasia to lower costs. he said bluntly, no one wants to try to push for the death of grandma or anything like that. it took this white house kind of a long time to respond to some of the outlandish allegations. some of the opponents of reform have really been pushing some of these lines of attack. they went unanswered for a long time. that's what we are seeing here. the president realizing he has to step it up a little bit. it's still an uphill battle. this is at a critical juncture in his administration. he put a lot on line to pass the stimulus. he is putting even more on the line to pass this. if he doesn't get it, it will be very, very difficult for the rest of his agenda. >> ed henry there in big sky

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>> reporter: do you think that the proposals that are put forward and there are many and complicated, do you think that will somehow affect the quality of care your daughter will get today? >> when this change should occur i think it will affect it. my understanding is that medicare rates is what all physicians will be paid. i don't think that's a sustainable practice. when you talk about costs, the quality will go down with it. >> reporter: what do you think about what you have been hearing? >> my personal issue is that i think they are pushing too much change on us at once. i think they are trying to pass it too soon. quit making such a fast-paced decision. >> reporter: do any of you think it is too fast or overdue? >> way too fast. >> too fast. >> way too fast. >> reporter: we are talking about what you get when you are sick. i just think to rush through

this this, it is the wrong thing. i know there is something that has to be done. >> reporter: would you say if i would have asked for a show of hands of those of you who think health care does need to be reformed? >> absolutely. >> there is nobody who thinks it doesn't have to happen? >> absolutely. >> reporter: let me put it this way. if you were all in a different position, and i mean unemployed and uninsured, do you think you would take a different view of this? do you think you would be sitting here and saying this is more urgent. i'm glad the president says it will be done in 2009. i don't mean to be be unfair. >> i don't think we are saying there is no sense of urgency. we all agree changes need to happen. even if i'm unemployed, if you are going to give me rotten care with rotten doctors, what good am i getting out of it, truly. >> if you are telling me 1% of my paycheck to get a plan that

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hello, everybody. i'm rick sanchez. kyra is joining us over here. >> maybe i should give you my mike. i will kind of help stretch as we like to say here in television. >> as you wind up this shot, you will find someone down here. go ahead. get that shot. you will see someone. how are we doing with the mike? >> i'm glad he just found the mike. that's all i have to say. >> sometimes the best tv is real tv. that is transparency what you just saw right there. >> on a serious note, the president of the united states getting ready to begin his town hall. you can see it live happening on the screen there. the president getting ready to