my husband, my family helps a lot. it is hard. i wonder what mothers go through that don't have what i did. i know it. anderson cooper did it. mommy had nothing to do with it. don't go to a therapist and say. >> anderson: time for "360." anderson? >> surreal. thanks, anderson. can obama counter the town hall critics or will he and all us end up with watered down reform or no change at all. doing a town hall in montana, taking the first family to nearby yellowstone park. mr. obama came because when it comes to passing reform the road truly runs through montana. raw politics from ed henry. >> reporter: montana is a nice place to visit this time of year, but the president had more on his mind than fly-fishing. he came for urgent business,

buttering up the state senior center max bachus who could hold the fate of health reform in his hands. >> first of all the man who is working tirelessly to make sure the american people get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america, please give max bachus a round of applause. >> reporter: in private, top presidential advisers acknowledged the fight reached a critical stage because the opposition reached some steam, capitalizing on anger at congressional town hall meetings. >> where does this state that government has the powers to take over health care. >> reporter: by comparison the president's town hall was tame. he did get one pointed question that reflected the strong opposition he's facing. >> we keep getting the bull. that is all we get the bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. the only way you are going to get that money is to raise our

taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> look, you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> reporter: but the president did not shrink from the challenge and vowed again he will not raise taxes on the middle class to pay for health care. >> when i was campaigning imad a promise i would not raise your taxes if you made $250 thoob or less. for people like myself who make more than that, there is nothing wrong with me paying a little bit more in order to help people who have a little bit less. >> reporter: many agree that is easier said than done. that leaves it to bachus to figure out the pesky details. white house aides point out his panel is the last best home to getting a bipartisan deal. the weeks of negotiations in washington have thus far come up empty. >> where is the white house on this now? what do they think they can get?

>> reporter: they are hoping they can get a deal. they are hoping they can get what the president wants in terms of public option. it is looking like they have to meet in the middle. there is very little movement. white house aides in private say when congress comes back in september the window is going to close on getting a bipartisan dole. they have to move on to climate change, et cetera. they have to move quickly to meet the president's deadline of the end of the year. >> didn't they want to get something in october so they could have a full year before midterm congressional elections to campaign on this? >> reporter: absolutely. they realize also if you don't get it done by october, november, whenever congress wraps up the session for this year, once you get into 2010 and have the midterm elections coming up, the division we are already seeing, some of the anger, the back-and-forth, it is only going to get sharper as

both sides gear up. you have every member of the house, the senate on the ballot. some of the conservative democrats who are worried about whether taxes are going to be raised, their position is going to harden in an election year. >> ed henry, thanks. let's dig deeper, david fromm, clarence page and neah malika henderson. clarence, you said health care reform could become obama's iraq. is it as bad as some democrats fear right now? >> i think they were caught off guard by the at least the visible theatrics if you will of the town hall protests. it's thrown them off message. they haven't had anything positive to sell as far as specifics go because the legislation is still being worked out. it is very easy to attack the

overall concept. they have been on the defensive. they are trying to get their footing again. it is not too late but there are remarkable similarities to the way iraq went wrong very early. >> david the president said the media coverage of these town hall meetings is inaccurate and we are focusing on the most dramatic exchanges that is giving more power to the loudest people than there should be. do you think that is fair? >> i think you are seeing the workings of dreags as a country works its way to a compromise on a tremendous issue. there is no way they are not going to not pass something they can call a victory. there is a possibility with this rising trend of public opposition to the house bill to work out something like a more compromise, not to do this with the kind of muscle they were hoping to do it in the spring, to scale back ambitions and work out something acceptable to 75% of the country. >> some would call that reform

light though? >> yeah. he is on track to disappoint progressive democrats looking for a public option. that might be watered down. he is going to wrinkle the left. in some ways he has been doing that since he has been in office so that won't necessarily be a surprise. >> clarence, is it possible the white house would give up on the notion of getting a bipartisan bill and go for, you know, having it be an all democratic vote rather than water things down more? >> they can't get all the democrats, meaning the blue dogs, if they don't get some republican support. the blue dogs are too skiddish. this is the way democracy is supposed to work. if there is not something like a public option a lot of people are going to wonder what's the point because the whole things initially was try to insure the

uninsured and bring down costs. it is not headed in that direction. >> here is the point. if you pass a measure that includes new regulations of insurance companies that can't drop people after they are sick, health exchanges so self-employed people can buy insurance with before tax dollars, reform for efficiency in medicare, that is a big achievement and can command a lot of support. >> it is interesting nia-malika, when you talk to people who are very angry, you hear repeatedly, if it is not the issue of health care, it is this overall feeling that the government has exploded in size and throwing money at a problem and spending more money and deficits are growing and growing and growing. does the white house see that as perhaps their biggest vulnerability? the allegation they are just growing government and ballooning these deficits? >> one of the things you hear from senior aides is they are

not going to be able to please everyone. in a lot of ways a lot of people at town halls and so upset about expanded government and health care specifically are the same people you may have seen a year ago at mccain and palin rallies. there is some vulnerability going into the 2010 election. if they do get something passed with health care and it works, i think they bill less vulnerable going into 2010. >> that is essentially what bill clinton was saying, there will be anger but once they get a bill passed obama's approval rating will go back up a year from now when people start seeing results? >> his approval rating will go up if there are more jobs and the economy is better. debt is a real concern and it will weigh on all aspects of government. >> is that why we are hearing from president obama emphasizing

his plan or whatever plan is approved, emphasizing savings, it will pay for itself which is a hotly disputed claim? >> yes. there is anxiety about the growing deficit. people have to balance their checkbooks at home. they expect the federal government to do so, too. if the economy is doing well next year, that tends to smooth over a lot of other ills. then you find the federal deficit doesn't matter as much politically if the economy is doing well. if it is not, however, people are going to beat him up for being inefficient and a spendthrift. >> we have to leave it there. thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> our conversation continues online. join the live chat at ac360.com. i just logged on myself. president obama told stories of people doing the right thing, paying their bills and losing their insurance right when they needed it the most. we hear from a former insurance

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president obama was holding his town hall, hundreds of the 47 million americans without health insurance were packing the inglewood forum where the los angeles lakers used to play getting free medical care. having insurance is no guarantee

you will get the care you need. >> if you do the responsible thing, pay your premiums each month so you are covered in case of a crisis, when that crisis comes if you have a heart attack or your husband finds out he has cancer or your son or daughter is rushed to the hospital, you can't be getting a phone call from your insurance company saying your insurance is revoked. it turns out once you got sick, they scoured your records looking for reasons to cancel your policy. they find a minor mistake on your insurance form you submitted years ago. that can't be allowed to happen. >> but it does. with us is a man who knew that reality firsthand not as a patient but from the other side a former senior executive at cigna. wendell potter was the company's top spokesman. he held similar positions at humana and once served as press secretary for a tennessee

gubnatorial candidate. you say they confuse their customers and dump the sick to satisfy wall street investors. how are they intentionally confusing customers and dumping the sick? >> they confuse customers by not being transparent and providing the information they need. a lot of people don't know their insurance is inadequate. people are finding they are in the ranks of the underinsured because they don't have any idea that their coverages are not good enough. they dump the sick by purposely looking at applications when someone files or has medical claims, whether you have a major illness or major accident, if you buy your insurance through the individual marketplace, outside of your employer, you have to disclose whether or not you've had a preexisting condition. if you leave something out if you forget something or don't know something that is relevant that might be in doctors notes the insurance company will use

that as justification to cancel your policy. >> the forms are incredibly complicated. they make my head hurt. are you saying that is intentional? >> it is very intentional. these companies make billions a year. they could make these forms more clear and more easily understood. >> cigna denies they dump customers. cigna complies with all regulatory requirements regarding sets rates and policy terms with our mission to provide individuals with a path of health, well being and sense of security. >> i'm not surprisele. regulations are not adequate to protect consumers. reform should happen to keep this from happening. senator rockefeller has asked cigna and other insurers to come make sure they are telling the truth. you can look through transcripts when these executives talk to wall street analysts and you'll

hear they use the word purge. it is there. they acknowledge it. they say they do when talking to analysts and don't when they are talking to other people. >> you allege the health care industry is engaging in dirty tricks to stop health care refrorm being passed. what kind of dirty tricks. to be clear are you accusing cigna? >> not cigna. i'm talking about the industry. during my career i served on industry committees through the trade associations and trade groups that were funded by the front groups that were funded by the industry. the way it works is the industry will hire big pr firms that create these front groups that have names that have no association with the insurance industry and these front groups do the things you are seeing right now that try to destroy health care reform by using terms like government takeover or we are heading down a

slippery slope toward socialism or kill your grandpa. >> that language is written by insurance companies? >> absolutely. >> but the folks who are showing up at these meetings, they are not being paid to go there. there is a legitimate anger. there is a legitimate opposition, concern about health care and massive deficits and government intrusion. >> the other way they work is the pr firms have very good connections with people that those folks listen to. they have close ties with the conservative radio talk show hosts and commentators and editorial page writers and they feed the talking points. >> did you used to do that? >> i did. absolutely. >> what do you mean feed talking points to radio talk show hosts. >> the pr firms have close ties and good relationships with the producers and talk show hosts themselves and say, look, you need to understand this about health care reform or if this bill passes this is going to

represent a government take overof the health care system. it is not true. it is the kind of language that the talk show host will welcome because it is ideal logically in sync with their world view. >> thank you. we would like to have you back. >> thank you very much. bringing you tall angles at ac360.com. find answers. caught on tape. a woman tasered twice in front of her kids. she what she is now doing about it. was this justified at all? how help got to a village leveled by one of the worst typhoons in recent memory. aspin) - ( chirp ) van gogh? ( chirp ) even steven. - ( chirp ) mansion. - ( chirp ) good to go. ( grunts ) timber! ( chirp ) boss? what do we do with the shih-tzu? - ( crowd gasps ) - ( chirp ) joint custody. - phew! - announcer: get work done now. communicate in less

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two snarlt senators got in a twitter fight today.

grassley tweeting back. they were fighting over the notion that reform might lead to pulling the plug on grandma. in a word rations. fact or fiction, let's ask sanjay gupta. >> anderson a term that comes up a lot is rations. what exactly does that mean? we came to this intensive care unit to find out. we heard a tale of three sisters. at 78, thelma is the youngest. then there is carolyn who is 80 and helen who is the oldest. she is 82. are you worried with health care reform -- >> i'm concerned with it. >> tell me why. >> i try not to worry. well, i have read some things that says that as you get older you are liable to wait and wait and wait before you can have surgery. i've heard they are going to look at the older people and you are going to wait longer than the younger people.

>> it's not true though a lot of people think so. a look at the reform bill in congress there is no mention of that. no mention of rationing, no mention of the government making so-called end of life decisions for seniors. where is this notion coming from? from a provision in the house health care bill providing for end of life counseling. chuck grassley says his committee dropped that provision for fear it might be misinterpreted. >> i think people are freaked out because people are putting out bad information that we are going to pull the plug on grandma. those are fear mongering for opponents of reform. >> misinformation, yes. but the fear is growing. >> they are saying older people aren't as valuable? >> certainly. >> you feel that for real? >> i don't personally feel that but i feel the government thinks so. i have had two knees replaced.

i've had a hip replaced. i've had spinal steno sixth s and that was done at this hospital. that was back in 2000. >> so quite a few operations. >> yes, i have. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. >> helen the older sister, 82, had a hip replacement but now she is in intensive care with problems with her heart and kidney. >> i'm doing the best i can. >> yeah? >> the three sisters have had more than 13 operations over the years costing close to $250,000. i asked carolyn, is it worth it? >> i say if you pay your premiums you ought to get the same service that the younger person does. >> there is no change in any of these pieces of legislation that would take the power away from the patient and the physician making the best choice for them. >> this is helen's doctor. >> should there be a cutoff? this person is too old?

>> the cutoff needs to be decided based on general health, their ability to go for rehabilitation after surgery and ability to withstand surgery. >> as much as we talk about the policy of health care reform, a question that keeps getting asked of this, what if this were your mother? what if this were your grandmother? it is the art of medicine. a simple traffic stop takes a stunning turn when a young man gets tasered twice in front of her kids. first, erica hill with the "360" bulletin. hundreds in california forced to evacuate as wildfires plague the state. damaging 4,100 acres of wilderness, santa barbara, no reports of injuries. >> there are new details on the hudson river plane crash that killed nine last weekend.

two of the five air traffic controllers skemged for duty were in the control tower when the crash took place. two others were on break. the manager left the facility eight minutes before the private plane and helicopter collided. regulators have closed colonial bank. the bank which has 346 branchs, most across the southeast will be bought by bb & t. the largest bank failure of the year, six largest in u.s. history. eunice kennedy shriver honored today. her daughter maria shriver offering the eulogy. >> mommy was our hero. she was scary smart and not afraid to show it. she was tough but also compassionate. driven, but also really fun and funny. competitive, but also

empathetic, restless and patient, curious and prayerful, she liked to hang with the guys but all her heroes except for her brother jack, were women. she had a husband who was totally devoted to her in every sense of that word. a man who marvelled at everything she said and everything she did. he didn't mind if her hair was a mess f she walked around in a wet bathing suit, if she beat him at tennis or challenged his ideas. he let her rip and he let her roar and he loved everything about her. add that to five kids who adored her and loved to be with her and you have the ultimate role model. mommy was all of our best friends and it was an honor for all of us to be her children and a special privilege for me to be her daughter.

>> eunice shriver was unable to attend. >> extraordinary life. we will show you the extreme rescues from taiwan. how michael vick's dogs are doing now their former master is on the playing field and the dogs are no locker a part of his animal cruelty operation.

a grim reality in taiwan. a feared 500 people died in the massive typhoon. anger grows over the government's slow response. rescue workers are battling raging rivers, dense fog. take a look at these images. the journey to safety can be

terrifying. we have a correspondent in taiwan for the latest. >> reporter: getting to taiwan's remote mountain villages was rough before the typhoons nourks it is impossible. major roadways are blocked by mudslides and debris. this bridge is simply gone, brought down during the storm completing cutting off the village. the river is swollen and rapid. a few who tried to cross were swept away, plucked to safety by rescue crews. the only way in and out is by this harness. more than 100 people are getting out. they say it is safe. it is still a long way down. probably about 200-foot drop straight down on to the rocks down there. this water is moving pretty quickly. all that is holding me right now is this one hook there which is

connected to the cleats. okay. whoa. the sign reads sos, 32 people died here and a local official coming out of the village say bodies have been left rotting for days. walking into the village the road has collapsed in places, paralyzed. there has been no electricity or running water for a week. there is mud. lots of it. just getting across is not easy. it really is just like walking through quick sand. this village has been all but abandoned except for one family refusing to leave. everyone else almost 300 people have made that perilous journey to safety. i'm not sure i'll go back says this young man. we'll wait until the roads are clear and try to clean up. by day's end getting out was not so easy.

so basically they said -- so the safest way they said was across the river. the same river where others had earlier been swept away. they said the road was safe and if we tried it both cables could snap i realized i had no choice but to do this. it seems worse from up there than down here. and this is now life here for so many villages and houses cut off by mudslides and debris. it will be a long time before the people of this village will be able to go home again. >> how are rescue efforts going right now? >> reporter: well, it is still slow work. to be honest there isn't any rescuing to be done. there are people that are isolated and need to get out, maybe 1,000, maybe a few more. as for the recovery of the

bodies. many will be left where they are because that is the wish of some of the relatives, buried under the mud. they want to make those areas a memorial. where i'm standing right now, this was once a main two-lane highway, 45 feet wide. but with the rains from morakot this river rose up, it burst its bank, it dumped piles of mud and rocks and debris. this heavy moving equipment is using the rocks and gravel to try and build another temporary road over there. they are trying to get this open. an old tunnel that was built by the japanese during the '30s is being reopened. it is crucial. >> it is so sad. john, thank you very much. stay safe. typhoon morakot, the raw data. 80 inches of rain fell. nearly seven feet of rain in two

days. ten inches fell in new york's central park in the entire month of june which almost set a new record. whenever we new yorkers complain about rain this summer we should think of the people of taiwan. a remorseful michael vick. seemed remorseful. fresh off his new deal with the philadelphia eagles he asked for a second chance. his dogfighting days may be behind him, but what about the animals he treat sod brutally? how are they doing? >> a mom tasered by a sheriff's deputy in front of her kids twice. what happened? find out. some lunch. you hungry? yeah. me too. (door crashes in) (broadview alarm) (gasp and scream) go! go! go! go! go! go! (phone rings) hello? this is mark with broadview security. is everything okay? no. someone just tried to break in.

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call or click today. . michael vick is asking for a second chance. he completed a 23-month sentence for running a dogfighting ring. today as he announced his new deal remorseful vick vowed to make up for past mistakes. >> i was wrong for what i did. everything that happened at that

point in time of my life was wrong and, you know, it was unnecessary and to the life of me to this day i can't understand why i was involved in such pointless activity and why did i risk so much at the pinnacle of my career. i was naive to a lot of things. i figure if i can help more animals than i hurt then i'm contributing, i'm doing my part. >> here at "360" we are less interested in what happens to vick to what happens to the dogs he was groomed to fight to the death. most of the dogs are doing amazingly better. randy kay has the story. >> reporter: don't let those sharp teeth fool you. >> are you making a very scary face. >> reporter: that is one of 51 pit bulls rescued from football great michael vick's dogfighting ring in 2007. sue died of disease. two others were put down, one for medical reasons, another too

dangerous but the rest are thriving. they had to be socialized and house broken, even taught how to walk upstairs. half are in permanent homes or foster homes, the rest in an animal sanctuary in utah, none are in shelters. look at jumpa. she was adopted by kathleen who didn't want us to use her last name and now lives in new york. she has company, too. two other pit bulls, a black lab, a terrier and five cats. >> one of the things that brought her out of herschel so much was the other animals. and her learning from them and watching them trust me and learning that, you know, living in a home was actually a really good thing. >> reporter: jhumpa lives the life of luxury, when she is not on the couch she sleeps on her pink bed. she walks or runs five miles a day and snacks on doggie

bon-bons. her favorite is cheese. she is great with children and loves to be around people and other animals. like the other pit bulls adopted by families, jhumpa was closely evaluated to make sure it was safe to be around people. all she needed was time to understand the world was a better place than she had known before. >> the truth of the matter is she's taught me far more than i will ever teach her about repair and trust and growth and how, you know, we can aspire to things that are bigger and better than we'd ever ever imagined. very, very fortunate to have her in my life. >> kathleen says the man who abused her deserves a second chance, too. >> i think that in spite of everything he's done to these dogs, i think he deserves a second chance and i think he needs a chance to show the world that he, too, can repair. i hope that he's -- i hope that

he has the tools to do that. >> randy kay, cnn, new york. >> joining us now is jhumpa and kathleen. how old is jhumpa? >> she is about four. >> how much has she changed since you've had her? >> entirely. when she first came to live with us she didn't do a lot of standing up. she crawled on herbely. it took her quite a while to figure out she could trust the world. >> she is still scared around strangers. >> she get nervous. >> i have cheese in my hand. >> you do. >> pit bulls get a bad wrap. they are good dogs. >> they do get a bad rap. when they get into the hands of people who want to do bad things they get a reputation that doesn't represent the breed.

it is a friendly breed. >> how long did michael vick have her? >> we don't know. i think she was 2 1/2 when she came out of his yard. >> had she already fought? >> we don't know. she kwam some scarring on her back and her face and her legs. but that could have been because she was bred. we think she had a couple of it willers. >> how do you rebuild the confidence and the trust? >> time and experience and exposure to things like this. she gets out every single day and walks. i socialize her to places most people don't take their dogs. we go into stores that allow dogs where she can get exposure to people and experiences. >> i'm out of cheese. >> yeah, i know. >> i think we are out of time. thanks for coming by. >> thanks for having us. >> out of cheese, out of time. an update of the breaking news. michael phelps involved in the car crash.

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as exclusive interviews go the president of the united states is a pretty good get. it is sometimes quite daunting. major props to damon weaver of florida for his exclusive.

>> do you have the power to make school lunches better. >> what we want to do is make sure there are more fruits and vegetables in the schools. kids may not end up liking that but it is better for them. it would be healthier for them. those are changes we make. >> i suggest we have french fries every day for lunch. >> see if you were planning the lunch program it would probably taste good to you but it might not make you big and strong like you need to be. >> everybody knows that you love basketball. i think it would have a president that can dunk. can you dunk? >> not anymore. i used to when i was young. i'm almost 50 now so your legs are the first thing to go. >> french fries and manageos. 11-year-old damon weaver. his other big interviews for his tv station, dwyane wade of the

miami heat and vice president joe biden. i'm damon weaver at the white house to interview president obama about education. >> nice to meet you. >> first i was nervous. like, i'm nervous and i was shaking. i wanted to bring a friend but my mom told me to stop. when i sat down my legs was trembling and it just stopped. then i got relaxed and then i asked him my questions. >> you asked him your first question. >> how much money in america is being cut from america? how can education be improved with all these cuts. >> well, we've actually here in the administration tried to put more money into schools. >> what kind of fellow did he strike you as? >> a nice young man that we will see in the future. >> do you think he is a smart mapp man? >> yeah. i think president obama is a smart guy. he's a good person with a good personality. now that i interviewed you,

would you like to become my home boy? >> absolutely. >> since i made him my home boy i should see him often. >> these are the questions you prepared ahead of time. >> mm-hmm. >> as the president you get bullied a lot. were you ever bullied in school? >> i wasn't bullied. i was big. >> do you think he gets picked on a lot? >> well, by republicans. >> now why do you suppose they do that? >> because he's a democrat. >> that's it. >> they're on different sides. >> i notice here he actually signed your questions on here, gave you an autograph here. >> mm-hmm. i thought it was nice to have the president's autograph. i'm going to go frame it and let's see, i might not sell it but i might. >> you're not going to sell his

autograph. what -- did he strike you as what you thought a president would be like? >> pretty much. mm-hmm. yeah, he did. >> what would you like to see him do more of? >> more outside time with his kids and his dog and his wife. have more family time. >> would you like to be president one day? >> i would love to be president one day. >> would you be a good president? >> pretty much if they serve manageos and french fries at, if the chef serves mangos and french fries. >> if the chef gave you mangos and french fries you would be a good president? >> yep. >> what would you do as president? >> as president i would help homeless people get home, bring taxes up a little to help the homeless and the poor.

>> what do your friends think about you going around and talking to people like the president? >> well, they think that is cool but they think of me the same way as the same i was before i got the interviewing job. >> is it a hard job? >> not so hard. as long as i get paid with french fries and mangos. >> everything comes back to that. thank you very much. we appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. >> good luck. >> to you too. >> i love how he likes french fries and mangos. he is obsessed. my tough assignment, chatting with nancy grace and her 21-year-old twins. bob dylan's run in with the law. no direction home. what happened to dylan when he decided to take a walk?

a lot happening tonight. erica hill joins us with the "360" bulletin. >> take a look at this woman yanked from her minivan in upstate new york during a traffic stop. tasered twice by a sheriff's deputy with her two kids in the car. the woman has filed notice she plans to sue the local sheriff's department. her lawyer says her charges were dropped after the d.a. saw this video. the charles manson follower is a free woman tonight. lynette "squeaky" fromme is free tonight. michael phelps is not blame for the car accident he was

involved in. he will be cited for an expired license. the other driver ran a red light. another big name run in with the cops. bob dylan was in long branch, new jersey. the report is now surfacing after it happened a few weeks ago. he was looking at houses and a 24-year-old cop approached him. they had gotten calls about a man wandering the neighborhood. when she asked him his name he said bob dylan. they didn't know who he was. the tour staff vouched for him at the hotel. >> wow. >> yeah. >> did you see my interview with nancy grace and the kids? >> i was clued to the tv, my friend. >> we are going to play that as the shot. et. >> it is good stuff. >> beat "360" winners. >> that is good stuff, too.

>> tonight's picture, white house butler pumps up a basketball for president obama. >> hey, it could be worse. reagan rode horses. jason from dallas, republicans got guns, democrats got balls. jason, your beat 360 t-shirt is on the way. >> no comment. i sat down with nancy grace and her 21-month-old twins. it got completely out of control. i don't know what happened. >> you are recovering still. >> yeah. >> you should take the weekend off. out of a bad relatio... it's okay. thanks. goodnight. goodnight. (door crashes in, alarm sounds) get out! (phone rings) hello? this is rick with broadview security.

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play date with nancy grace's 21-month-old twins. i thought it was going to be an interview with nancy and the kids came out. it became something entirely different. >> baby, you better come hold them. here he goes. here he goes. >> a walk about. >> here he goes. >> uh-oh. >> anderson, what did you do to him? >> i didn't do anything. >> daddy. >> here is another fish for you. >> the stars are lucy and john david. you know, anderson, try to work with two children it is not easy. >> tell me about. i am sweating here, dripping. >> i have a lot of help. my husband, my family helps a lot. it is hard. i wonder what mother dos who don't have help i do. i know it. anderson cooper did it. mommy had nothing to do with it. don't go to a therapist and tell them your mommy did it.

>> i need a therapist. i was making origami fish on national tv. >> i'm impressed. >> i learned that in first grade. you make an origami fish and they love it. >> add that to "jeopardy" champion and is there anything you can do? >> i had no idea what she was talking about because i was nervous trying to stop these kids from getting too upset. >> it seemed to work fairly well. >> i need heavy sedation. >> for you, not the children. >> yeah. >> they just need french fries and mangos. >> i need the entire weekend to controversy. see the most recent shots at our website ac360.com. coming up at the top of the hour, president obama taking bes, defending health care reform. is this his last best chance to get what he wants?

is it now make or break? can he counter the town hall critics or will he and all us end up with watered down reform or no change at all. doing a town hall in montana, where presidents rarely visit even if they are doing what he is doing. taking the first family to nearby yellowstone park. mr. obama came because when it comes to passing reform the road truly runs through montana. raw politics from ed henry. >> reporter: montana is a nice place to visit this time of year, but the president had more on his mind than fly-fishing. he came for urgent business, buttering up the state senior senator and chairman of the

finance committee max bachus who could hold the fate of health reform in his hands. >> first of all the man who is working tirelessly to make sure the american people get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america, please give max bachus a round of applause. >> reporter: in private, top presidential advisers acknowledged the fight reached a critical stage because the ol opposition gained some steam, capitalizing on anger at congressional town hall meetings. >> where does this state that government has the powers to take over health care. >> reporter: by comparison the president's town hall was tame. he did get one pointed question that reflected the strong opposition he's facing. >> we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. the only way you are going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't.

>> look, you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> reporter: but the president did not shrink from the challenge and vowed again he will not raise taxes on the middle class to pay for health care. >> when i was campaigning i made a promise i would not raise your taxes if you made $250,000 or less. for people like myself who make more than that, there is nothing wrong with me paying a little bit more in order to help people who have a little bit less. >> reporter: many agree that is easier said than done. that leaves it to bachus to figure out the pesky details. of how to pay for reform. white house aides point out his panel is the last best home to getting a bipartisan deal. the weeks of negotiations in washington have thus far come up empty. >> where is the white house on this now? what do they think they can get? >> reporter: they are hoping they can get a deal.

they insist they want to get all the president wants in terms of public option. it is looking like they have to meet in the middle. there is very little movement. the bottom line is white house aides in private say when congress comes back in september the window is going to close very fast on getting a bipartisan deal. they have to move on to climate change, et cetera. they have to move quickly to meet the president's deadline of the end of the year. >> didn't they want to get something in october so they could have a full year before midterm congressional elections to campaign on this? >> reporter: absolutely. they realize also if you don't get it done by october, november, whenever congress wraps up the session for this year, once you get into 2010 and have the midterm elections coming up, the division we are already seeing, some of the anger, the back-and-forth, it is only going to get sharper as both sides gear up. you have every member of the

house, 1/3 of the senate on the ballot. the president is not on the battle. democrats who are worried about whether taxes are going to be raised, their position is going to harden in an election year. that is why they are pushing so hard right now, anderson. >> ed henry, thanks. let's dig deeper, david fromm, clarence page and neah malika henderson. clarence, you said health care reform could become obama's iraq. is it as bad as some democrats fear right now? >> i think they were caught off guard by the at least the visible theatrics if you will of the town hall protests. it's thrown them off message. they haven't had anything positive to sell as far as specifics go because the legislation is still being worked out. it is very easy to attack the overall concept.

they have been on the defensive. they are trying to get their footing again. it is not too late but there are remarkable similarities to the way iraq went wrong very early. >> david the president said the media coverage of these town hall meetings is inaccurate and we are focusing on the most dramatic exchanges that is giving more power to the loudest people than there should be. do you think that is fair? >> i think you are seeing the workings of dreags as a country works its way to a compromise on a tremendous issue. there is no way they are not going to not pass something they can call a victory. there is a possibility with this rising trend of public opposition to the house bill to work out something like a more compromise, not to do this with the kind of muscle they were hoping to do it in the spring, to scale back ambitions and work out something acceptable to 75% of the country. which is the way you should do something this big. >> some would call that reform

light though? >> yeah. he is on track to disappoint progressive democrats looking for a public option. that might be watered down in any final legislation. he is going to wrinkle the left. in some ways he has been doing that since he has been in office so that won't necessarily be a surprise. >> clarence, is it possible the white house would give up on the notion of getting a bipartisan bill and go for, you know, having it be an all democratic vote rather than water things down more? >> they can't get all the democrats, meaning the blue dogs, if they don't get some republican support. the blue dogs are too skiddish. about passing a bill that is that polarized. this is the way democracy is supposed to work. if there is not something like a public option or what looks an awful like one, a lot of people are going to wonder what's the point because the whole things initially was try to insure the uninsured and bring down costs. it is not headed in that

direction. >> here is the point. if you pass a measure that includes new regulations of insurance companies that can't drop people after they are sick, which is a major point for the white house, if you create health exchanges so self-employed people can buy insurance with before tax dollar the way employed people do, if you do reforms for efficiency in medicare that is a big achievement and it is one that can command a lot of support. >> it is interesting nia-malika, when you talk to people who are very angry, you hear repeatedly, if it is not the issue of health care, it is this overall feeling that the government has exploded in size and throwing money at a problem and spending more money and deficits are growing and growing and growing. does the white house see that as perhaps their biggest vulnerability come these midterm elections? the allegation they are just growing government and ballooning these deficits? >> one of the things you hear from senior aides is they are not going to be able to please

everyone. in a lot of ways a lot of people at town halls and so upset about expanded government and health care specifically are the same people you may have seen a year ago at mccain and palin rallies. there is some vulnerability going into the 2010 election. if they do get something passed with health care and it works, i think they will certain i will be less vulnerable going into 2010. >> that is essentially what bill clinton was saying, there will be anger but once they get a bill passed obama's approval rating will go back up a year from now when people start seeing some sort of results. do you buy that? >> his approval rating will go up if there are more jobs and the economy is better. debt is a real concern and it will weigh on all aspects of government. all aspects of politics in the coming years. >> is that why we are hearing from president obama emphasizing his plan or whatever plan is approved, emphasizing savings,

it will pay for itself which is a hotly disputed claim? >> yes. there is anxiety about the growing deficit. people have to balance their checkbooks at home. they expect the federal government to do so, too. if the economy is doing well next year, that tends to smooth over a lot of other ills. then you find the federal deficit doesn't matter as much politically if the economy is doing well. if it is not, however, people are going to beat him up for being inefficient and a spendthrift. >> we have to leave it there. thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> our conversation continues online. join the live chat at ac360.com. i just logged on myself. president obama told stories of people doing the right thing, paying their bills and losing their insurance right when they needed it the most. we hear from a former insurance executive turned whistle blower. they were drown,

electrocut electrocuted, forced to fight to the death. michael vick's dogs. now he is out of jail and back in the nfl, how are they doing? i was in the grocery store when i had a heart attack.

my daughter was with me. i took a bayer aspirin out of my purse and chewed it. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart.

i'm going to be grandma for a long time. president obama was holding his town hall, hundreds of the 47 million americans without health insurance were packing the inglewood forum where the los angeles lakers used to play getting free medical care. as the president reminded a questioner back at the town hall having insurance is no guarantee you will get the care you need. >> if you do the responsible thing, pay your premiums each month so you are covered in case of a crisis, when that crisis

comes if you have a heart attack or your husband finds out he has cancer or your son or daughter is rushed to the hospital, you can't be getting a phone call from your insurance company saying your insurance is revoked. it turns out once you got sick, they scoured your records looking for reasons to cancel your policy. they find a minor mistake on your insurance form you submitted years ago. that can't be allowed to happen. >> but it does. with us is a man who knew that reality firsthand not as a patient but from the other side a former senior executive at the insurance giant cigna. wendell potter was the company's top spokesman. he held similar positions at humana and a large hospital train at tennessee and served as press secretary for a tennessee gubnatorial candidate. you say they confuse their customers and dump the sick to satisfy wall street investors. how are they intentionally

confusing customers and dumping the sick? >> they confuse customers by not being transparent and providing the information that a lot of us need. a lot of people don't know their insurance is inadequate. people are finding they are in the ranks of the underinsured because they don't have any idea that their coverages are not good enough. they dump the sick by purposely looking at applications when someone files or has medical claims, whether you have a major illness or major accident, if you buy your insurance through the individual marketplace, outside of your employer, you have to disclose whether or not you've had a preexisting condition. if you leave something out if you forget something or don't know something that is relevant that might be in doctors notes the insurance company will use that as justification to cancel your policy. >> the forms are incredibly complicated. they make your head hurt. are you saying that is

intentional? >> it is very intentional. these companies make billions a year. they could make these forms more clear and more easily understood. it is not a priority. >> cigna denies they dump customers. cigna complies with all regulatory requirements regarding setting rates and policy terms with our mission to provide individuals with a path of health, well being and sense of security. is that the kind of statement you used to write? >> it is. i'm not surprised. regulations are not adequate to protect consumers. it should be part of reform to keep this kind of stuff from happening. senator rockefeller has asked cigna and other insurers to come make sure they are telling the truth. you can look through transcripts when these executives talk to wall street analysts and you'll hear they use the word purge. it is there. they acknowledge it. they say they do when talking to

analysts and don't when they are talking to other people. >> you allege the health care industry is engaging in dirty tricks to stop health care refrorm being passed. what kind of dirty tricks. to be clear are you accusing cigna? >> not cigna. i'm talking about the industry. during my career i served on industry committees through the trade associations and trade groups that were funded by the front groups that were funded by the industry. the way it works is the industry will hire big pr firms that create these front groups that have names that have no association with the insurance industry and these front groups do the things you are seeing right now that try to destroy health care reform by using terms like government takeover of the health care system or we are heading down a slippery slope toward socialism or kill your grandpa. >> that language is written by insurance companies? >> absolutely. >> but the folks who are showing

up at these meetings, they are not being paid to go there. there is a legitimate anger. there is a legitimate opposition, concern about health care and massive deficits and government intrusion. >> the other way they work is the pr firms have very good connections with people that those folks listen to. they have close ties with the conservative radio talk show hosts and commentators and editorial page writers and they feed the talking points. >> did you used to do that? >> i did. absolutely. >> what do you mean feed talking points to radio talk show hosts. >> the pr firms have close ties and good relationships with the producers and talk show hosts themselves and say, look, you need to understand this about health care reform or if this bill passes this is going to represent a government take overof the health care system. it is not true. it is the kind of language that

the talk show host will welcome because it is ideal logically in sync with their world view. >> thank you. we would like to have you back. >> thank you very much. bringing you tall angles at ac360.com. find answers. caught on tape. a woman tasered twice in front of her kids. she what she is now doing about it. was this justified at all? >> hour our correspondent and badly needed help got over a raging river to a village leveled by one of the worst typhoons in recent memory. ( siren blaring ) special interest groups are trying to block progress on health care reform, derailing the debate with myths and scare tactics. desperately trying to stop you from discovering

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two senators each one old enough to remember the golden age of television got in a

twitter fight. schumer telling grassley to stop scaring people about health care reform. grassley tweeting back. am not. they were fighting over the notion that reform might lead to pulling the plug on grandma. in a word rations. fact or fiction, let's ask sanjay gupta. >> anderson, a term that comes up a lot is rationing. what exactly does that mean? we came to this intensive care unit to find out. we heard a tale of three sisters. at 78, thelma is the youngest. then there is carolyn who is 80 and helen who is the oldest. she is 82. are you worried with health care reform -- >> i'm concerned with it. >> tell me why. >> i try not to worry. well, i have read some things that says that as you get older you are liable to wait and wait and wait before you can have surgery. i've heard they are going to

look at the older people and you are going to wait longer than the younger people. >> it's not true though a lot of people think so. a look at the reform bill in congress there is no mention of that. no mention of rationing, no mention of the government making so-called end of life decisions for seniors. where is this notion coming from? from a provision in the house health care bill providing for end of life counseling. chuck grassley says his committee dropped that provision for fear it might be misinterpreted. >> i think people are freaked out because people are putting out bad information that we are going to pull the plug on grandma. those are fear mongering for opponents of reform. >> misinformation, yes. but the fear is growing. >> they are saying older people aren't as valuable? >> certainly.

>> you feel that for real? >> i don't personally feel that but i feel the government thinks so. i have had two knees replaced. i've had a hip replaced. i've had spinal stenosis. and that was done at this hospital. that was back in 2000. >> so quite a few operations. >> yes, i have. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. >> helen the older sister, 82, had a hip replacement but now she is in intensive care with problems with her heart and kidney. >> i'm doing the best i can. >> yeah? >> the three sisters have had more than 13 operations over the years costing close to $250,000. i asked carolyn, is it worth it? >> i say if you pay your premiums you ought to get the same service that the younger person does. >> there is no change in any of these pieces of legislation that would take the power away from the patient and the physician making the best choice for them. >> this is helen's doctor. >> should there be a cutoff?

this person is too old? >> the cutoff needs to be decided based on general health, their ability to go for rehabilitation after surgery and ability to withstand surgery. >> as much as we talk about the policy of health care reform, a question that keeps getting asked of this, what if this were your mother? what if this were your grandmother? it is the art of medicine. a simple traffic stop takes a stunning turn when a young man gets tasered twice in front of her kids. first, erica hill with the "360" bulletin. hundreds in california forced to evacuate as wildfires plague the state. flames ripped through the santa cruz mountains, damaging 4,100 acres of wilderness from santa barbara to sacramento. no reports of injuries. >> there are new details on the hudson river plane crash that killed nine last weekend.

investigators say only two of the five air traffic controllers scheduled for duty on saturday were in the control tower when the crash took place. two others were on break. the manager left the facility eight minutes before the private plane and helicopter collided. regulators have closed colonial bank. after a federal judge froze its assets. the bank which has 346 branchs, most across the southeast will be bought by bb & t. the largest bank failure of the year, six largest in u.s. history. eunice kennedy shriver honored today. her daughter maria shriver offering a moving eulogy. those celebrated the life of the special olympics founder, a truly unconventional life. >> mommy was our hero. she was scary smart and not afraid to show it. she was tough but also compassionate.

driven, but also really fun and funny. competitive, but also empathetic, restless and patient, curious and prayerful, she liked to hang with the guys but all her heroes except for her brother jack, were women. she had a husband who was totally devoted to her in every sense of that word. a man who marveled at everything she said and everything she did. he didn't mind if her hair was a mess, if she walked around in a wet bathing suit, if she beat him at tennis or challenged his ideas. he let her rip and he let her roar and he loved everything about her. add that to five kids who adored her and loved to be with her and you have the ultimate role model. mommy was all of our best friends and it was an honor for all of us to be her children and a special privilege for me to be her daughter.

>> eunice shriver's brother, ted kennedy was unable to attend. >> extraordinary life. we will show you the extreme rescues from taiwan. how michael vick's dogs are doing now their former master is on the playing field and the dogs are no locker a part of his animal cruelty operation. i had a great time. me too. you know, i just got out of a bad relatio... it's okay. thanks. goodnight. goodnight. (door crashes in, alarm sounds) get out! (phone rings) hello? this is rick with broadview security. is everything all right? no, my ex-boyfriend just kicked in the front door. i'm sending help right now. thank you. (announcer) brink's home security is now broadview security. call now to install the standard system for just $99. the proven technology of a broadview security system delivers rapid response from highly-trained professionals,

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a grim reality in taiwan. a feared 500 people died in the massive typhoon. anger grows over the government's slow response. rescue workers are battling raging rivers, dense fog. take a look at these images. the journey to safety can be terrifying. we have a correspondent in taiwan for the latest. >> reporter: everyone before the typhoon, getting to villages was tough. now it is impossible. major roadways are blocked by mudslides and debris. this bridge is simply gone, brought down during the storm completing cutting off the village. the river is swollen and rapid. a few who tried to cross were swept away, plucked to safety by rescue crews. the only way in and out is by this harness. more than 100 people are getting out. they say it is pretty safe. it is still a long way down.

probably about 200-foot drop straight down on to the rocks down there. this water is moving pretty quickly. all that is holding me right now is this one hook there which is connected to the cleats. okay. whoa. the sign reads sos, 32 people died here and a local official coming out of the village say bodies have been left rotting for days. walking into the village the road has collapsed in places, power lines are down. there has been no electricity or running water for a week. there is mud. lots of it. just getting across is not easy. it really is just like walking through quick sand. this village has been all but abandoned except for one family refusing to leave.

everyone else almost 300 people have made that perilous journey to safety. i'm not sure i'll go back says this young man. we'll wait until the roads are clear and try to clean up. by day's end getting out was not so easy. so basically they said -- so the safest way they said was across the river. the same river where others had earlier been swept away. they said the road was safe and if we tried it both cables could snap i realized i had no choice but to do this. it seems worse from up there than down here. and this is now life here for so many villages and houses cut off by mudslides and debris. it will be a long time before the people of this village will be able to go home again. >> how are rescue efforts going right now? >> reporter: well, it is still slow work.

to be honest there isn't any rescuing to be done. there are people that are isolated and need to get out, maybe 1,000, maybe a few more. as for the recovery of the bodies. many will be left where they are because that is the wish of some of the relatives, buried under the mud. they want to make those areas a memorial. where i'm standing right now, this was once a main two-lane highway, 45 feet wide. but with the rains from morakot this river rose up, it burst its bank, it dumped piles of mud and rocks and debris. this heavy moving equipment is using the rocks and gravel to try and build another temporary road over there. they are trying to get this open. an old tunnel that was built by the japanese during the '30s is being reopened. it is crucial. >> it is so sad.

john, thank you very much. stay safe. typhoon morakot, the raw data. 80 inches of rain fell. nearly seven feet of rain in two days. ten inches fell in new york's central park in the entire month of june which almost set a new record. whenever we new yorkers complain about rain this summer we should think of the people of taiwan. a remorseful michael vick. seemed remorseful. so he says. fresh off his new deal with the philadelphia eagles he asked for a second chance. his dogfighting days may be behind him, but what about the animals he treated so brutally? how are they doing? >> a mom tasered by a sheriff's deputy in front of her kids twice. what happened? find out. anyone can prove they're strong once. the real question is can they prove it again and again.

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michael vick is asking for a second chance. he completed a 23-month sentence for running a dogfighting ring. today as he announced his new deal with the philadelphia eagles, remorseful, vick vowed to make up for past mistakes. >> i was wrong for what i did. everything that happened at that point in time of my life was wrong and, you know, it was unnecessary and to the life of me to this day i can't understand why i was involved in such pointless activity and why did i risk so much at the

pinnacle of my career. i was naive to a lot of things. i figure if i can help more animals than i hurt then i'm contributing, i'm doing my part. >> here at "360" we are less interested in what happens to vick to what happens to the dogs he once groomed to fight to the death. most of the dogs are doing amazingly better. randy kay has the story. >> reporter: don't let those sharp teeth fool you. >> are you making a very scary face. >> reporter: that is one of 51 pit bulls rescued from football great michael vick's dogfighting ring in 2007. sue died of disease. two others were put down, one for medical reasons, another too dangerous but the rest are thriving. they had to be socialized and house broken, even taught how to walk upstairs. half are in permanent homes or foster homes, the rest in an

animal sanctuary in utah, none are in shelters. look at jhumpa. she was adopted by kathleen who didn't want us to use her last name and now lives in new york. she has company, too. two other pit bulls, a black lab, a terrier and five cats. >> one of the things that brought her out of her shell so much was the other animals. and her learning from them and watching them trust me and learning that, you know, living in a home was actually a really good thing. >> reporter: jhumpa lives the life of luxury, when she is not on the couch she sleeps on her pink bed. she walks or runs five miles a day and snacks on doggie bon-bons. her favorite is cheese. she is great with children and loves to be around people and other animals. like the other pit bulls adopted by families, jhumpa was closely evaluated to make sure it was safe to be around people.

especially young kids. all she needed was time to understand the world was a better place than she had known before. >> the truth of the matter is she's taught me far more than i will ever teach her about repair and trust and growth and how, you know, we can aspire to things that are bigger and better than we'd ever ever imagined. very, very fortunate to have her in my life. >> reporter: just like jhumpa, kathleen says the man who abused her deserves a second chances too. >> i think that in spite of everything he's done to these dogs, i think he deserves a second chance and i think he needs a chance to show the world that he, too, can repair. i hope that he's -- i hope that he has the tools to do that. >> randy kay, cnn, new york. >> joining us now is jhumpa and

her adoptive mom, kathleen. how old is jhumpa? >> she is about four. >> how much has she changed since you've had her? >> entirely. when she first came to live with us she didn't do a lot of standing up. she crawled on her belly and moved her eyes side to side. it took her quite a while to figure out she could trust the world around her. >> she is still scared around strangers. >> she get nervous. >> i have cheese in my hand. >> you do. which is why she is being so friendly to me. >> pit bulls get a bad wrap. they are good dogs. >> they do get a bad rap. when they get into the hands of people who want to do bad things they get a reputation that doesn't represent the breed. it is a friendly breed. >> how long did michael vick have her? >> we don't know. i think she was 2 1/2 when she came out of his yard. >> had she already fought? >> we don't know.

she did come with some scarring on her back and her face and her legs. but that could have been because she was bred. we think she had a couple of it litters. >> how do you rebuild the confidence and the trust? >> time and experience and exposure to things like this. she gets out every single day and walks. i socialize her. i take her to places most people don't take their dogs. we go into stores that allow dogs where she can get exposure to people and experiences. >> i'm out of cheese. >> yeah, i know. >> i think we are out of time. thanks for coming by. >> thanks for having us. uncovering america, teen film makers with dreams of hollywood may see their work on the big screen. an upclose look at their inspirational work.

a new school is set to open in the bronx. a public school focused on film making. it is called the cinema school. erica hill has more on tonight's "uncovering america" report. >> reporter: common words to begin production on any film set but this isn't just any film set. this is uganda in east africa and the production team, a bunch of american teens. all students at the ghetto film

school, a training program in the south bronx. for founder joe hall, a former social worker in the bronx and usc film school student this is a perfect mix of his two loves, helping talented youth find their path and film production. >> ghetto film school is a nonprofit that gets talented young people from the bronx and harlem into the film industry. we are looking to provide them with a comprehensive education and get them ready for internships and hopefully have the connections and pave the way so they can pursue a creative career. >> since its creation in june of 2000, 400 students have participated. getting accepted isn't easy. out of 120 applicants 20 are picked for the 15-month program. more competitive, winning a spot on the annual thesis trip, for many students the first trip

outside of the united states. london, berlin, paris and africa. each student fills a critical production crew role. theresa dillworth wrote this year's script shot in uganda. >> the whole experience seemed almost surreal. i couldn't believe i wrote a movie and that i was going across, you know, the ocean to africa to see it get made. it was like a really great experience. i learned so much about film making through it. you know, like just seeing it come to life. >> the film "live joseph" a man who has 24 hours to live after being bitten by a snake was shot in nine days. offering students firsthand film experience and real life education in a setting very far from home. >> it has been an incredible experience to go to uganda to film this. my first time out of the united

states. it changed me as a person. >> it is like a gateway. we are attached to the industry in a really humble way. i feel like it makes us accessible to our goals. we can get where we need to be because we have the this as a resource. i plan to be gfs my entire life in terms of always remembering my experience and giving back to people because that is what they believe, giving back to the community. >> joe hall will open the cinema school next month, a magnet school in the bronx with a high emphasis on humanities and film production. continuing a growing tradition. erica hill, cnn, new york. >> coming up, chatting with nancy grace and her 21-month-old twins. it is surreal. a "360" follow up. olympic swimmer michael phelps involved in a car accident. cops say he didn't cause the

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as always, a lot happening tonight. a quick check at headlines. erica hill joins us. >> anderson, we begin with an interesting piece of video. a woman yanked from her minivan in upstate new york during a traffic stop. tasered twice by a sheriff's deputy. two kids in the car.

happened in january. the woman filed notice that she plans to sue the local county sheriff's department for wrongful conduct. she was charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and speeding. her lawyer said the charges were dropped after the d.a. saw the video. the charles manson fallower predicted of trying to kill gerald ford in 1975 is a free woman. squeaky fromme has been released after more than three decades in custody. a 360 "follow" tonight. baltimore police say olympic goad medalist michael phelps was not to blame in a car accident he was involved in last night. he will be cited for driving without a license. the swimmer gave cops an expired michigan license after what caused the crash, cops say the other driver ran a red light. we are getting word of another big-name run-in with the cops. bob dylan, in long branch, new jers jersey. out for a stroll looking at some

houses before a show he was playing that night. a 24-year-old cop called. he asked him his name, when asked for i.d., he didn't have any. a second cop arrived in his 20s. he didn't know who bob dylan was either. they gave him a ride to the hotel. the tour staff vouched for him. >> did you see my interview with nancy grace and the kids? >> i was glued to the tv. >> i filled in for larry king. we're going to play that. our beat 36 0 winners. chance for viewers to come up with a caption for the photo on the blog every day. butler von everett pumps up a basketball for obama. steve, his caption, it could be worse, reagan rode horses. viewer winner, jason from dallas, texas. republicans got guns. democrats got balls.

jason, your 360 t-shirt on the way. >> no comment. coming up next, one of my most challenging interviews today. i sat down with nancy grace and her 21-month-old twins. it got completely out of control. i still don't know what happened. >> you're recovering, still, aren't you? you should take the weekend off. some lunch.

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"shot" tonight, play date with nancy grace's 21-month-old twins. we sat down on the set of larry king. i thought it was going to be an interview with nancy. then the kids came out. >> totally different. >> something else entirely. >> are you ready? who should i let -- david, you better come hold them. here he goes. here re goes. here he goes. >> uh-oh. uh-oh. >> anderson? what did you do to him? >> i didn't do anything. >> daddy? >> what's the matter? >> here's another fish for you. >> of course, the stars are lucy

and john david. you know, anderson, trying to work with two children is not easy. >> tell me about it. i'm sweating here, like dripping in sweat. >> i have a lot of help. my husband, my family helps a lot. it's hard. i wonder about what mothers go through that don't have -- i know it. anderson cooper did it. mommy had nothing to do with this. don't go to a therapy and tell them your mommy did it. >> i'm making origami fish on national television. it got down to that. >> i am impressed and impressed you remembered the skill from first grade. >> it's a trick i use with kids. >> i love it. add that to the "jeopardy" champion, is there anything you can't do? >> i honestly had no idea what she was talking about the last ten minutes. i was nervous trying to stop these kids from getting too upset. >> right. it seemed to work fairly well. >> i've, you know, i need