also, how critical have you been following the world this week? test yourself. try our weekly quiz on fareed challenge. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. brace yourself. the first major storm of the hurricane season is about to hit the south. people are getting out. we are live. beyond the talking points, what's really in the health care proposal, we get to the bottom of it with two congressman live. purple haze, back to the concert that changed the lives of manyions of baby boomers and some say the world. ♪ beetle mania, even after all these years, paul mccartney takes the stage right here in atlanta. hello. i'm don lemon. as we go on the air tonight. some people along the gulfcoast are packing up and getting out all because of a trifecta of

named storms, one of them about to hit florida tonight. the most recently named storm named claudette will hit in a few hours on the panhandle. claudette could dumb anywhere between 3 to 10 inches of rain. the flash flood threat is real there. we can't forget tropical depression anna and tropical storm bill, both of which are brewing in the atlantic ocean. bill could intensify to hurricane strength by later this evening. let's get to our meteorologist jacqui jeras, keeping tabs on all three storm systems. just last week, we were talking about how quiet the atlantic was for this season, so far, three storms in just two days. >> just like that. when conditions are favorable, they are favorable. things can develop quickly and that's what happened with claudette. it developed overnight and strengthening throughout the day, we're looking at a tropical storm with maximum winds of 50 miles an hour. it's not a hurricane but a lot

of threats associated with it. you need to take it seriously. heavy rainfall with flooding, winds that could be damaging, we could see tornados out of this as well. let's advance and show you the radar picture because we're starting to feel strong winds along with the rain bands as they move on in. we could see anywhere between 3 to 6 inches of rainfall in the panhandle area. locally, heavier amounts. i will show you a closer view where the center of circulation is. we were thinking we might get landfall on the cape area. the storm took a little jog off to the west and we think the center of circulation is here. landfall will be a little later and a little farther western into the panhandle, maybe destin or fort walton beach. panama city and pensacola, a couple hours away. we think it's somewhere around 60, maybe 70 miles away and it's

moving at about 15 miles an h r hour. we put a couple of the true viewers to give you an idea what the winds have been doing, we have been seeing gusts at 40 miles an hour in apalachicola. these are sustained winds and includes gusts at 24, 25 miles an hour, a bit on the hefty side. i have a picture i want to show you, a webcam shot from the panama city beach area, from the holiday inn sun spree on their roof cam. you can see winds at 24 miles an hour and getting gusts in apalachicola around 45 miles an hour. our i-reporters have been out there keeping an eye on skies and beaches. from jan moll from destin florida, with periods of sunshine today and the wind is getting really rough, not too

worried but putting up her hurricane shutters just in case. thanks for sending us those pictures. we ask you to send us what you see as well with tropical storm claude death to ireport.com, as always, stay safe. we will continue to watch this and we are just hours away from landfall. >> thank you very much. let's get to the ground and apalachicola's mayor joins us. what are the conditions now? >> we picked up a little rain. >> you picked up rain and flooding? it's not that bad? we're looking at pictures and appears to be a lot of rain but what about flooding? >> no. but we are expecting localized flooding in the streets throughout the city? >> have you made plans? those further inland there, have been voluntary evacuations because of the flooding, is that correct. >> that's correct. down at alligator point. within the city, we're basically

batting down the hatches and encouraging residents to stay indoors in case emergency vehicles are called out. >> i have to ask you something. for hurricane katrina and rita a lot of the budgets were wiped out because of those storms. how are towns like yours holding up for these types of storm coming now? >> we're not. in fact, we're just hoping for the best. budgets are real bad in small communities like apalachicola. >> we can only imagine. we wish you the best and check in with you to see how you guys are doing, if you get information or anything happens and you want information to get out, get back in touch with us, okay, mayor? >> appreciate it, don. >> mayor johnson from apalachicola. send us your reports and stories to ireport.com and we'll try to get them on the air for you. please, we want you to stay safe. would you believe today's

weather forecast for parts of california included the term, scattered smoke. there's currently 11 wildfires bunk along the coast in various containment. the lockheed fire that has already charred santa cruz county and in a state of emergency. besides a windy condition, fire crews are having to deal with mountainous terrain and people have left their homes. critics of president obama's health care proposal says the public section is a deal closure and that's why the health secretary is causing such a buzz. tells cnn competition for private insurers can take different forms. >> what we don't know is what the senate finance committee is likely to come up with. they've been more likely focused on a co-op. not for profit co-op as competitor opposed to straight

government run program. i think what is important in choice and competition. i'm convinced at the end of the day, the plan will have both of those. that is not the essential element. >> elaine quijano join us now from washington. it sounds like the administration is backing off ever so slightly on a public option. is that what's happening, what most people are seeing? is that what is happening. >> it really dough sound that way, don. what secretary sebelius said, and what president obama said yesterday said a final deal would not necessarily need to include a public option. take a look what he said at a town hall meeting yesterday in grand junction, colorado. >> the public option, whether we have it or don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform. this is just one sliver of it, one aspect of it. by the way, it's both the right and the left that have become so fixated on this they forget

everything else. >> that's significant, the president suggesting it is possible the final deal might not have that public option and also seeming to suggest that's not necessarily a make or break point, don. >> what about this idea we've been hearing about a health insurance cooperative. what is that? is the administration open to that idea? >> reporter: we heard a moment ago from secretary sebelius, the white house is open to this idea of health co-op, something gaining traction on the senate side. envisioning it this way, these co-ops would get federal start-up money, not all covered by federal funding but some. co-ops are run by their members, not the government. we're not talking about government controlled entities here, also, these co-ops would compete with for profit insurers, senator conrad thinks for all those reason, this idea will appeal for people on both sides of this debate. >> i have to ask, what's the reaction to republicans on that

proposal? >> caution right now, don. senator richard shelby said it's something lawmakers should look at and said it's far cry from the original proposals. republicans have argued a public option would drive private insurance companies out of business. these co-ops could be viewed as the best way to try to assuage the concerns. don. >> elaine quijano in washington. thank you very much. the propponents of the heal care proposal attend the largest health care rally and they summed up their feelings with a single phrase, hands off my health care. i was there for a rally and talked with two organizers. where was the outrage five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, why all this outrage now? at least the president is trying to reform health care, so where does the outrage come from. >> this is the second town hall i actually saw real americans get up and ask questions.

it wasn't a preselected group. >> hold on. real americans, that's another term that sets people off. we're all real americans. >> anybody can get in and n anybody can ask a question. you've seen a completely different tenor in the town hall he held tuesday and today than town halls we've been seeing so far in this debate. that's what i mean by real americans. >> the whole real americans, can we lose real americans. everybody in this country, we're all real americans. that is part of the issue that really sets people off and divides people. let's get rid of that real americans, i'm real americans, you're real americans, conservative, liberals, independent, we're all real americans. continue your point. >> here's my point. if we're going to open this debate up and have everybody come in and put their ideas forth, virginia is absolutely right, he said it himself, this is a hard issue. we need to bring everybody to the table, let's hear everybody's ideas and concerns and come up with a consensus. >> the atlanta rally was sponsored by the americans with

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the mayor of milwaukee turned into a crime fighter last night when he heard a woman screaming at a state fair. it seems no good deed goes unpunished. major tom barrett was attacked by a man with a metal pipe when he tried to help out. he is hospitalized in stable condition with hand and head injuries. barrett was leaving the fair with his children and niece when he saw a man taking a woman. when he called 911, the attacker changed targets and coming after the mayor instead, beating him with a metal pipe. >> we saw one guy on the sidewalk in a pool of blood. then we think the other guy jumped over the fence and headed

that way. it was a domestic thing. was the mayor of milwaukee. >> i didn't know that at the time. that's a shock. >> tom stepped up and did the right thing. he called 911 and tried to calm the situation protecting a grandmother and her grandchild. as a result of his actions, tom was attacked and struck repeatedly with a metal object. tom's efforts protected the woman and the child. his efforts also protected members of our family as well. we're extremely proud of tom's selflessness and his courage. >> so you'll be glad to know this. police nabbed a suspect this morning and they don't think he knew that barrett was milwaukee's mayor. a missouri man jailed in myanmar for taking a forbidden swim is in the clear now.

he arrived looking pale and worn out. first he met with senator jim webb whose mercy mission got him out of a seven year prison sentence. he was convicted for swimming to the home of a nobel prize winner. being questioned by immigration officials at the newark airport, some angry americans are burning the american flag and others clutching a picture of kahn. he said he was held up for two hours because his last name showed up on an alert list. they said it was just a routine stop and now the star says he's ready to move on. >> the main thing, i left it behind me. it wasn't pleasant or nice but it's meant to be a procedure which needs to be followed if you want to enter america.

>> khan is traveling to promote his new movie, about racial profiling of muslims in a post 9/11 world. i want to get you back to our developing story we started this newscast with. tropical storm claude death about to make landfall on the florida coast. jason, it looks like you're already feeling the effects of the storm? >> reporter: we have. in fact, for the past couple hours, don, we have seen the frontal rain bands from tropical storm claudette moving through apalachicola. we want to give you a live look next to the apalachicola bridge. the wind speed not high enough for authorities to shut that bridge down. if you look at the water underneath, that's water from the gulf of mexico getting pushed into apalachicola bay. that will contribute to a storm surge anywhere from 3 to 6 feet. coa coastal flooding is a possibility as the evening progresses. we're not expecting any majoral

structural damage or debris problems in apalachicola or in the panhandle. we could see downed trees and power outages as a result of this storm. really, the worst weather is still to come behind us, south and east of us, where all the heavy convection is from this storm. 7 inches of rainfall expected through the overnight hours. one of the big concerns of emergency workers for weather this evening is the risk for threat of tornados spinning off on some of these bands after the center of circulation of claudette makes landfall expected anywhere from 9:00 tonight until tomorrow morning. >> jason, bay news 9, reporting live from apalachicola. we'll check in with jason as soon as this storm progresses. three named storms in two days, the atlantic hurricane season is all of a sudden in full swing. look at that radar. jacqui jeras in the cnn hurricane headquarters tracking all the action for you. also, there's some of the most

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the president veered off the health care stump for a few hours of private time with his

family a. few snapshots of president obama, the obamas, i should say, at yellowstone national park in wyoming, the first family. they were there yesterday, before heading back to washington today, they visited the grand canyon national park in arizona. okay. so we know that national parks are pretty. should they be getting more of your tax dollars? that's a question. a good chunk of the stimulus money is going to spruce up national parks around the country. some people wonder what that qualifies as, how that qualifies as stimulating the economy? including our kate baldwin. here's what she found out. >> reporter: from shenandoah, to the grand canyon, america's national treasures in need of some serious repair. >> you come around the back of the cabin, you'll see the signing is all rotted along the ground, which means the dirt has come up to here and moisture has

gotten in here and rotted all this wood. >> reporter: the park ranger at prince william forest park outside washington where more than a dozen historic cabins are slated for repair, more than 250 national parks getting spruced up thanks to the economic stimulus. >> the stimulus will help keep our visitors here and keep them happy and coming back. >> reporter: they estimate parks across the country face a $9 billion backlog of work. the stimulus is supposed to contribute $750 million to that. so far, about 10% is in the pipeline. >> the campgrounds, campsite, amphitheatres for evening programs. it's the bathrooms, literally everything we have to make our visits enjoyable. >> reporter: nearly $56 million is going to repair washington landmarks. more than $4.5 million to another national park and nearly $11 million to the grand canyon, to name a few. when it comes to this money, you

have to ask, how is money for national parks stimulus? >> it's stimulus because we are putting people to work. we will be putting people to work for the next two years. it's also stimulus because we are creating a better place, increasing the visitor experience. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers aren't buying it. >> clearly, we need to improve our national parks. nobody should confuse that with economic stimulus. frankly, that's false advertising. >> the interior department estimates it will create about 2,000 jobs over two years many will be temporary jobs but this park ranger is confident it's a worthwhile investment. >> the national parks are our past, our history, preserve that. that's where we come from. it will give us and idea where we're going. >> reporter: at this virginia national park they're hoping to put hammer to nail in the past month and park officials say they had overwhelming interest. for projects like these they

need to hire about six additional people and received nearly 200 applications. a kid baldwin, cnn, prince william forest park. >> we showed you the first family, their trip going to the national parks, grand canyon, what have you. this is the president and first family arriving in phoenix, arizona, just a short time ago. you see the president and his littlest one getting off air force one. there's the rest of the family. the president will speak tomorrow at the vfw national convention in phoenix where he will address the concerns of vets and our men and women currently serving in afghanistan. our senior white house correspondent, ed henry, traveling there and covering the president and the politics and everything in between all along the way. we'll have it all for you right here on cnn. again, the first family arriving in phoenix. >> tropical storms are brewing. one of them is about to slam into the florida gulfcoast. meteorologist jacqui jeras in the cnn hurricane headquarters,

tracking all the action for you. a year after hurricane ike devastated galveston, we check on the rebuilding.

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i'm joining jacqui jeras, cnn heat index. she has all of it covered, this us claudette, anna and bill. you said claudette is moving and doesn't look like it will stall. >> that is good news, you get a stalled out system, you get torrential flooding. we're getting heavy rain which isn't great news, we'll have some of that but won't be lingering forever. a tropical storm, maximum sustained winds 50 miles an hour. we're getting gusts stronger than that and gusts along the coast easily in the 35 plus miles an hour range. we'll show you the satellite and where the flooding is. we have shown you apalachicola, a record rainfall 2 or 3 inches.

the storm itself is offshore, somewhere in this area here. we missed the lowest level in the point area and we're looking at that happening a couple hours from now maybe around destin or fort walton beach area. it is expected to make landfall late this evening and make its way through the panhandle is alabama tomorrow and much of the deep south will be feeling the impact of claudette with heavy showers and thundershowers and there's another look of the beach camera from the holiday inn sun spree rooftop. the wind are kicking up and becoming stronger. and let's move to anna. this is good news, very unorganized, become a tropical depression. something we want to watch but as it moves through the islands we don't expect it to strengthen. as it gets through the gulf of mexico next week, wee need to worry about it and it could

regenerate itself. tropical storm bill is on the heels of anna and will take an unfortunately track, as it does, it won't interact with land and has the potential to become a hurricane and possibly even major hurricane. you can see that in the forecast happening by wednesday possibly, category 3. the hurricane models are bringing it farther away from land than before and hopefully we'll watch bill continue on that track. if it does, we don't have to worry about it in the u.s. but still have to hold our breath at this point. >> keep us updated, please. tropical storm claudette has the state activating the emergency operations center. john cherry joins me now. i understand the coastal counties in the panhandle, franklin, wakulla are staring down serious flood potential. >> yes. in that area there's localized potential of flooding and voluntary evacuation in those areas.

basically because sometimes in those areas, roads can be cut off. they've done voluntary evacuations, no mandatory evacuations. we're mainly asking residents to stay off the roads tonight. if you do approach a flooded area on the roadway, turn around. >> this is probably t thethousandth time you've dealt with this, you deal with it all the time, used to these storms. when you hear jacqui jeras saying the storm is moving instead of stalling, that is good news for you. >> very good news. last year, tropical storm fay hung around for an extended period of time and stayed we had record rainfall amounts. when they move out quick e it helps a lot with flooding of rivers and streams and things like that. >> john cherry from the florida's emergency operations center. we appreciate that. we want to go back to jacqui

jeras. seems like a late start to the hurricane season this year. was it just a year ago hurricane ike devastated galveston. you and i were reporting on that right here. >> absolutely. not quite a year yet. actually september 13th, ike was a category 2 storm making landfall on galveston island, certainly the most memorable and devastating storm of last year. it was the third costliest u.s. hurricane of all time. you know, we're here in the middle of a new hurricane season. but, of course, galveston is still in a state of recovery. >> this is really a beautiful shot. what could be worse than this? i'll be back, i just don't know when. >> the water line was up to here. >> that's gary, when 8 to 9 feet of water and mud flooded his business of 29 years. >> it was absolute sheer terror, devastation, depression, anything you can name in the way of being horrifying, you know. awful.

the biggest challenge of my entire life, you know. >> reporter: as soon as you cross the bridge into galveston, evidence of ike is every, where on the shores, in neighborhoods and downtown. >> ike came and brought us to our knees. >> reporter: jeff showstrom, the director of economic development remembers. >> 100% of businesses were impacted. if it wasn't the business, it was the owner's personal residence and if it wasn't the owner, the employees. >> reporter: he credits loans from local banks and owners themself for the quick recovery. >> they didn't come to the street corner and put their head in their hands and wait for somebody to come help, they came and cleaned up. >> reporter: he had no insurance. looters took everything of value and emotions ran high. but he got a small business loan. it took him about four months. this is what surf style looks like now. >> $33.99. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: 70% of the

businesses have reopened and it's roughly breaking evening but couldn't be happier. >> i'm home again. my shop is back alive. that's a miracle. >> reporter: footsies is another business on the strand, while they had hope and dreams of re-opening, these doors remain closed and there are no plans to reope reopen. >> it's rough. >> reporter: mayor ann thomas shows us around the shores. residential areas are not bouncing back as quickly as the business sector. many homeowners are rebuilding but others remain vacant or heavily damaged. >> you can still see the damage here. >> reporter: she says 25% of evacuees haven't returned to galveston, several schools closed and 200 teachers laid off. federal money is coming in but it's not enough. >> our challenge right now, frankly, is to get fema to pay 100% reimburse. for the work we have to do here. the government does what it can

but the citizens themselves have to do some of the work. and they are doing it here. it's just slow. it's going to take time to rebuild. >> reporter: she says galveston will look and feel different once rebuilt but it will be stronger and more resilient as a result of ike, a sentiment gary exemplifies. >> stay driven, stay with it, you know. you can do it. if i can do it. anybody can do it. >> reporter: it's still a long road ahead. galveston officials say it will be years before galveston is back where it was but they hope overall, it will come back stronger than it was before. >> everybody wants to stay. that's their home. they lot of it so they continue to rebuild. we wish them the best of luck and, of course, safety safety. >> absolutely. i'm sure they're all holding their breath a little bit with anna and bill out there. we'll see what happens in the coming days. >> thank you, jackie, make sure

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president bob's latest health care town halls look a lot like his campaign rallies from a year ago, saturday's event in colorado included a speech, audience questions and plenty of applause lines but bubbling just beneath the surface a lot at stake for this president, trying to regain his footing on his number one issue. he's faced some very tough questions yesterday. for the first time he showed the kind of passion his political opponents have been using against him. a good example is when he talked about those so-called death panel panels. >> first of all, when you make a comment like that, i just lost my grandmother last year. i know what it's like to watch somebody you love, who's aging

deteriorate. and have to struggle with that. >> even as the president tries to answer his critics, he acknowledges his proposals are not perfect. but he says, being nothi nothing -- doing nothing is simply not an option. >> the truth is, i want to be completely honest here, there is no perfect painless silver bullet out there that solves every problem, gives everybody perfect health care for free. there isn't. i wish it was -- i wish there was -- i wish i could just say, you know what, we're going to change the system. everybody will get as much care as they want any time they want, everybody will have it, and it won't cost anything. doctors will be happy and nurses will be happy, hospitals will be

happy, insurance companies will still make a lot of profits. drug companies will be able to charge as much as they want. i can't do it. nobody can. >> let's talk about where things stand in the health care battle with two members of congress, representati representative earle is a democratic in portland and michael burgess is in dallas. before heading to washington, congressman burgess was a practicing physician more than 20 years. i want to talk to you about the single-pay thing. i want to get to something we discussed earlier in the show and get your take on it. health care co-op, a health care co-op. seems to be making its way through washington now. representative burgess, talk to us about that and about possible republican support for that. would conservatives be open to that? >> it's interesting. in january, the chamber of commerce in lubbock, texas, i don't represent lubbock, but

they came to me because of my background as a physician and say we have a co-op in lubbock that works pretty well. we'd like to see the ability to expand that. we'd like to offer our services to people in albuquerque, for example and we're restrained for doing that. it's an idea that has percolated out there for a while. as the president said, there is no easy answer to this. i can remember several years ago in my medical group, we had a large medical group and we decided to self insure and we had essentially gone bankrupt within three years time because of the vast cost. >> i want to get representati representative's thoughts on this and get through the points. let's get through all of them. what do you think of this co-op? >> the co-op is something that has an opportunity around the country. there are some larger co-ops, one in the puget sound area in the pacific northwest. if it was such a great idea, they would have been expanding

all over the country. it's not that it's a bad idea, it doesn't provide the scale, at least it hasn't done offer the last 40 or 50 years to make a meaningful difference to solve people's problems. >> let's talk about the public option. i heard a lot about it on the sunday talks and as i was out. the public option is just a sliver of the proposal. there is no bill, just a wish list the president has given, there are proposals out there. it's just a sliver. the idea is that this public option is going to rule out everything, just going to be single pay. that's what people think, this is going to move everything to a single-pay. we're hearing that is not the truth. i will let mr. bluemerger and then mr. burgess go to you. >> in the house bill, there is a provision for a public option,

non-profit set up by the government to provide some meaningful competition. in 25 states, there is only one company that has 50% or more in the vast majority of states you're just talking about two insurance companies. the public option would provide some competition to make sure people actually had a choice who needed it. >> mr. burgess. think you heard this morning the public option is a dead duck or what did senator conrad say, there's no point chasing this rabbit any longer. they don't have the votes for it in the senate. it is odd the president hasn't ever put out his vision of what he thinks health care reform ought to look like, relying on three democratic chairman. republicans have been frozen out of this deal a long time. don't blame us for being obstructionist. it's democrat versus democrat that slowed this down and given the american people a chance to weigh in and saying we don't like what we're seeing. >> the idea of the public

option, isn't it being, they're putting this out there -- is it sort of being hyped, this public option notion, thinking that this is only option being offered, a public option and i don't think people don't realize it's not the only option offered. >> it will be an attrition of private insurance because it is difficult to compete with the government with their unlimited funding, plus you have this health care commisar, that will be set up that will tell every person insurance and private what they can charge for it. it's a minefield for the insurance companies to continue in business. >> that's not in the bill that everybody's going to be dictate ing prices. what the public option would do would be one of a variety of choices in the exchange that would not be massive federal subsidy, there would only be enough money to start it up. it has to be self supporting. that's simply -- what mike is talking about is not -- >> hang on, guys, hang on.

i have to say independent people who have done the research on the health care proposals have said what mr. blumenhauer is saying is correct, it's not the only option and not the vast majority of the bill and people are given misinformation and why they're showing up and yelling because they don't know exactly what they're talking about when they go out there. we will take a break and give you a chance to talk and take comments and viewer questions on this. back in just a moment.

. okay, more now on the discussion on what's actually in these health care proposals. joining me now, texas republican michael burgess, congressman and medical doctor. also representative bloominghour join us from portland. let's talk about some of these -- i want to dispel some of the myths. this idea of a death panel -- not so. we're being told that's completely not true. abortions paid for by this plan -- not true.

hang on. the language in the house energy and conference bill that federal money cannot be used for abortions. seniors losing their doctors or waiting in lines -- not true. this is actually good for seniors. that's what the independent studies have said about this. now, on the republican side, and the democratic side, they're saying completely opposite. and fighting for this and fighting for that. can't we get past that, guys? i say that -- >> -- end of life issues should not have been includeled as they were in this bill. we had not a single hearing on it. if it was as simple as what you say, don -- >> that's not true -- >> -- as simple as what you say -- >> -- not true -- >> why does it have to be 10 or 15 pages in the bill -- >> okay, here's the thing -- >> -- for a doctor -- >> -- okay for you guys to debate -- hang on. i think it's okay for everyone to debate end of life coverage. don't call it death panels. that's a buzz phrase. >> the notion that was not

debated, that it wasn't part of the committee process, is absolute lie. we -- i'm on the ways and means committee -- >> -- ways and means process -- >> this is a medicare provision that ways and means has jurisdiction over. no, medicare is -- ways and means jurisdiction -- >> part b is energy and commerce -- >> hang on, let him finish. >> we introduced this lelgs lation. it was bipartisan. we had testimony over it. i had republican co-sponsors, including his republican doctor colleague charles bustoni. some of the most moving test money for the need to give seniors this choice -- >> okay, mr. bleumenaur -- >> -- came from members of congress who felt their parents hadn't received it. it's not true it wasn't debated. it is supported across the board by ama, by aarp --

>> let mr. better jess get in on this -- >> i just wanted to clarify -- >> it is the ability to provide education. no one would disagree with paying the doctor to provide that educational event. i would, in fact, even go so far if a patient or beneficiary wanted to avail themselves of the education, we ought to give them a break on the prel yum. where it got convoluted was congress couldn't help itself and it had to say we're only going to pay the doctor to do this every five years, figuring the doctor would game the system and that's where the problems occurred -- >> we're going to take some questions and some comments, guys. hang on. >> they are entitled to it at least every five years. read the section. >> i fell like i'm at a town hall right now so let me -- >> well, when people don't read the bill and they misrepresent -- >> in all honesty, this bill came out after july 15. you wanted to pass it before the august recess. you didn't want people to read this big --

>> okay, stop it, really, both of you. here's the thing. this is why people are so upset. when you look at half the foreclosures in the country, you look at half the bankruptcies, you know why that is, it's because people have problems affording health care. they have to go into foreclosure because they can't afford their health care. you guys are arguing the points on the conservative side. can't we just get beyond the partisan and just get this done for the american people? >> -- open process at the beginning, if we had wanted to tackle what is the issue for people, it's pre-existing conditions and losing their insurance when they get a tough diagnosis. we can fix that. we can fix that in a bipartisan way. >> all right, so why don't you do it? >> maybe earl can tell us why the democratic leadership would not open the process up and let us fix the problem that's actually -- >> -- there were efforts in our committee -- and people can go back and they can laook online and look at the hearings.

they can find there were efforts -- for xaem, the end of life provision, was something i argued to try to promote bipartisan cooperation. the decision was made. you go look at what the republicans authored -- >> okay, guy, really. i want to get some of the viewer comments. he says, in the new plan, will people still need insurance to seek medical attention in hospitals or what is the option for the poor? go ahead, representative burgess. >> yes, people will still need insurance. if they're covered through the state exchanges in the public option, if it survive, there will either be a premium they'll pay or a subsidy they receive. if they receive a subsidy, their choices will be fairly limited. >> the choice here is to make sure that everybody has access, either employer provided or that they can have subsidized care if they are not -- if they can't afford it and there will be opportunities for people to have more choices.

i think it's very straightford. trying to make sure that everybody for the first time has that access and nobody in america will go bankrupt because of health insurance costs. >> why don't we then leave the power in the hands of the individual like with the health savings account? those are going to be deemed unqualified in the new plan and many people such as myself who rely on a health savings account won't have that any longer and yet it's been shown that is the cheapest alternative. >> all i have to say is i can see why some people are so frustrated by this because just trying to talk to you guys, i can't get a word in edgewise, so can you imagine, the everyday american, how frustrated they are especially if they don't have health care or you're dealing with health care? listen. we don't want the partisan. we don't want the left and the right. nobody cares about that. people want health care reform. work it out. please. okay? >> when we get back to washington, i hope that is

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