lost a brave battle with brain cancer early today. bob was 78 years old a fierce conservative a take no prisoners debater. his wife geraldine told the associated press, he loved being a journalist, loved his family and his country and also maryland basketball. that sums up the bob novak we all know. "ac 360" right now. anderson. tonight, breaking news that could change everything in the white house battle for health care reform. call it the nuclear option. after negotiating with the republicans cnn has learned the administration could be getting closer to a very big change, crafting a health care bill and try to ram it through the senate even if it passes by only a single vote. after taking it on the chin at town halls. this weekend the white house seemed to back away from the so-called public option, a

government provided insurance alternative. the white house says today they still want that public option. now they may be considering some tough moves to make that happen. ed henry has solid sourcing, so does dana bash. first ed. >> reporter: the key is there is no final decision. top democrats close to the white house say they are actively considering a possibility doing a go it alone strategy. a budget maneuver, have obscure known as reconciliation where they would need a simple majority, 5 # votes instead of 60 votes. republicans would scream this is a power grab, underhanded move. white house officials are laying the groundwork saying we have been working with republicans for months. if they don't get something done in the next few weeks we will take drastic measures. one adviser said if we have to push it through this way no one will remember how messy it is. what they will remember is we got health care done. a win is a win.

that is what people will remember, it will be messy, but if they have to do it they think people will forget about the process and remember the substance. >> do you know what that means for the public option? >> it is more likely there will be a public option but not garntded. if they don't need to win over democrats or republicans, it is more likely there would be a public option. everything is on the table and potentially off the table. there is a lot of horse trading going on. >> dana, what are you hearing from your sources about moving forward without republicans? >> what i've been hearing from the past couple of days jibes with what ed is saying. from administration and hill sources on the democratic side that they are saying that they believe more and more that republicans, the lead republicans negotiating, have

been negotiating for months are not serious and not as serious as they were about having a robust bipartisan deal. that is because of comments they say that chuck grassley, the lead republican has made over the past couple of days suggesting he is not really in negotiations he is just in talks. and comments saying if he can't get more than four republicans it is going to be tough. that plus comments from another senate republican today, jon kyl, the number two republican ripping the idea of any kind of health care at all. all those taken together is a signal that they are probably going to have to do this with democrats alone. republicans are saying that democrats are using that as an excuse but maybe republicans are giving them one to push forward without them. >> ed henry, if this is true and seriously under consideration it seems a far cry from what we were hearing over the weekend from the white house, from kathleen sebelius, from the

president himself, from robert gibbs talking about the public option being one of several things and the key thing is competition and choice. to go from that to suddenly moving forward ramming this thing through it seems like all day today they have been saying nothing is changing. it seems like a lot has changed. >> you are right. that is why they are not pulling the trigger tonight on this. over the weekend it was about the president showing flexibility saturday night on the town hall. maybe there won't be a public option. kathleen sebelius leaving the door open to no public option. she didn't close the door either. that was about trying to bring in kent conrad, a conservative democrat like ben nelson in the senate, show flexibility. if they ram this through with this procedural motion that will close that door and conservative democrats will be potentially angry. what this is all about this weekend is showing flexibility,

giving conservative democrats and moderate republicans a couple more weeks, to the end of the recess. the key time frame will be mid september when congress comes back. if there is no movement then they would pull the trigger. >> anderson, it was very interesting, today chuck grassley, the lead republican who has been trying to -- been in that room trying to negotiate something he revealed in a private meeting with the president he's the one who suggested that the president should make public that he could go for a bill that doesn't have the government-run health care option. so you have so much maneuvering going on and it would seem on the one hand if something like chuck grassley, that republican, could stay onboard because of what the president said. just like ed is saying, i mean, the key here that we have to remember is it is not about republicans. what you do with the

conservative democrats. there are many than people realize. members of the president's own party who don't necessarily agree with the core approach of the public option. that is the tough part for the white house right now. >> it could get rough. dana bash, ed henry, thanks. more on the "raw politics" with alex castellanos and roy s seakauf. >> this is a good option. the only thing they have been consistent with is inconsistent. this has been going on for months. remember in july when obama was in russia, obama floated the trial balloon of no public option and he had to walk it back from russia. sarah palin could see it from her porch.

this is what people have been waiting for, progressives have been waiting for, the president to make a strong move this is what i'm for. i'm drawing a line in the sand and there will not be legislation i will sign if it doesn't have the public option, the right to negotiate, prevention. >> alex, this is something president bush did on several things. is this wise for president obama to do? >> well, it doesn't solve his pll problem. he may have drawn a line in the sand but sand shifts. they misplayed their hand here. you don't give up your big negotiating chip and that is what secretary sebelius did saying that might be willing to give up the public plan. the left wing of if democratic party went up in flames. the worst thing an incumbent president can have is a primary from the wing, a loss of support of enthusiasm. barack obama is trying to recoupe his political chips.

we'll have to wait and see if he is not willing to throw the government-run plan under the bus. the problem is not republicans. he has 6 0 votes in the senate. the government-run plan is so unpopular, he is say, hey, i will take 50 votes. a lot of democrats will have tough political races in 2010. barack obama won't be on the ballot but this health plan will be. >> roy, for progressives, is the public option something that cannot be negotiated away? >> yeah. there is no real reform without the public option. what the democrats are saying is alex is right. this could be a losing issue in 2010 if they let it get whittled down to reform only in name. at that point it won't work because it won't work without real reform and the republicans will use it in 2010 and 2012 saying, see, the government can't do anything right. this is a key issue. alex is right t. base is in

danger. there was a story in 2 "new york times," the grassroots people are not rising on this issue because they have been so unclear about it. i mean, people are not going to leave their houses to pitch something they are not clear what it is. >> anderson this is a very different obama than we saw in the campaign. obama the campaign is there is no red america, no blue america, no republican, no democrat. there is one america. tonight if what we are hearing is correct, if he says we are going to cling to the public plan no matter what, he is saying blue america wins. i'm the president of that america. this government-run plan doesn't have the support in the middle. that's why he is losing democrat support in the senate and thinking of trying to jam this through quickly with 50 votes. >> roy, do you think this is something they would go ahead with or maybe trying to float this idea to put pressure on everyone to come to some sort of agreement? >> i think that has to be part of it. just today gibbs said they

hadn't decided in they were going to stop negotiating with the republicans. kyl said he wasn't going to whip up votes and grassley saying he might not support the thing he was negotiating for. all the signals were there and they weren't sure. when would they be sure? when the support of the american people drop to 29%? this is something they are putting out there as a threat they could pull back. it is a smart move. >> anderson a lot of democrats were saying if we are not going to get a government-run plan the holy grail of a democratic party why did he burn up 20 points of political capital, why did he spend six months, seeing his job ratings drop. we could have done this six months ago. if he needs the chips at the end, we'll see. i think it is still in play. >> roy sekoff, alex castellanos,

we appreciate it. michael jackson's doctor speaking out. randy kay as has a quick preview. >> it has been nearly two months since michael jackson died, for the first time tonight his personal physician who was at his house when he suffered cardiac arrest is talking. it ois not an interview, but a taped interview. you can judge what you think of dr. murray's statements that he "told the truth." remember, he is a central figure in the investigation of manslaughter. michael jackson will final i will be laid to rest. we'll give you the details when and where. >> there is more at ac360.com. join the live chat underway. up next, back to health care. sanjay gupta taking the questions you have been sending in to our site. new evidence of who may have

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we began the hour with breaking news on health care reform where the white house could be getting ready to stop trying to win conservative support and push it through the senate with 51 votes. let's turn to "360" m.d. sanjay

gupta. it has been a busy day. sanjay, our first question is from shatika who asks what would the public option cover in. >> your primary care. your emergency care. there would be several levels of care. a basic plan a premium plan, a premium plus plan at different rates, different premiums. what is important which is your point not everyone is eligible to be covered under the public option. you are uninsured. you go to an exchange, a health exchange and look at the options including a public option. if you don't have access to private insurance or medicare or medicaid, you might qualify for the public option. you can't have premiums that are less than 11% of your total income as well that is a lot of numbers to throw at you. keep in mind not everyone will qualify for the public option. >> janet wants to know how does

the plan focus on prevention? >> this is a great question, something we have been hearing since the beginnings of the discussions. a senate finance committee is going to give funding to the states to try to come up with innovative programs for health and wellness. the house committee is going to come up with national strategies to make us a healthier country overall. it makes sense to keep someone from getting sick in the first place. a woman who has diabetes, she might be able to get blood sugar checks in her home as opposed to the emmitt r. with blood sugar out of control. other people say it is hard to legislate good behavior. people have fantastic insurance and are not good at taking care of themselves. how exactly it will play out is hard to tell. >> dottie says how will the reform effect people on medicare

and medicaid? >> these are great questions. there should be no impact on the overall services provided by medicare and medicaid. having said that you hear hundreds of billions of dollars of wasteful spending of medicare will be eliminated. what people are worried about is if you are cutting money from medicare at the same time a population is getting older, how is that going to work out? are you going to cover everyone on medicare like it is now? fewer than 10% of people on medicare say they have had a bad experience with medicare. most of the people are generally satisfied with the way things are now. two more points. the health care reform we are hearing about, medicare and medicaid may get bigger. it may allow people to buy-in at full cost and raise the income level at which you qualify for medicaid. expansion of those governmental programs as well. >> sanjay, appreciate it.

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tonight we are hearing a new voice in the michael jackson story. the singer's doctor conrad murray is speaking out. first a "360" bulletin. robert novak is being remembered tonight as a washington institution and a staunch ideal log who embraced the nickname the prince of darkness. bob novak was 78. a new u.s. intelligence report describes how venezuelan

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presidential palace. two american troops were killed in eastern afghanistan. three afghans blew up a checkpoint. remember the purple fingers the iraqi got? in afghanistan they are planning to do the same. the taliban is threatening to chop those fingers off. the taliban made it clear they are going to interview with the election. >> they have been somewhat effective. up to 10% of the polling places are not going to open because of taliban intimidation. these kinds of attacks -- i was just in afghanistan talking to folks there, a lot of people advising their families not to vote because they are concerned on the way to the polling station or coming out of there they would be subject to attacks by the taliban. >> michael the fact they did a rocket attack on the presidential palace, what does that say? >> i think it is symbolic more

than anything. it wasn't effective. we have seen attacks in the capital. on that same jalal bad road i witnessed an attack. it is not new but it is timely. it is a reminder. the taliban is using the power of perception to intimidate voters. i don't believe their power to effectively stop the elections exists. but can they disrupt, can they spoil in certain areas? can they cast a pal over it? that is possible. >> peter, how is the battle where marines are now fighting, how is that going? >> well, i think, according to the spokesmen for the marines in the south the battle is -- they haven't necessarily encountered a large numbers of the taliban. the taliban have plenty of notice to leave. there have been spots where there has been intense fighting. we have seen the taliban mounting attacks in the north.

clearly the taliban have a strategy if they know there is going to be large attacks by u.s. forces in the south they will try to mount other attacks in the north and now as we've seen in the capital. >> from your perspective, michael, how do you see the battle? >> i think the battle has only just begun. if you look the map of the marines and the brits are targeting, that is heldman province. that is part -- it is classic insurgent tactics. if you face overwhelming forces, you pull back to fight and wait for another day. >> the fact the border is porous makes that easier? >> absolutely. the lines of communication, the supply lines in and out of pakistan remain intact. in that one province, heldman, 4,000 marines have gone in. they are not halfway through the province yet in terms of taliban concentration. there is a long way to go if

anyone thinks we can take heldman province. >> peter, do we know, is karzai expected to win this election? >> yes. he could win the first round, anderson. i would predict that is quite possible in the most recent poll he was getting 44%. he needs 50%. he has allowed the return of a war lord, uzbek war lord who controls 10% of the vote. that might put him over the 50% mark in which case it is only one round. >> michael what is a karzai victory mean for america? >> well, for america this is a very complicated election. karzai has been an ally of america. he failed to deliver for america. his government by definition of any afghan government is a hodgepodge of war lords with an administration riddled with corruption. the fact that he named dusdum to

push him over the line, he is being investigated by the obama administration for crimes against humanity. that is the nature of afghan politics. this is an election where u.s. strategic interests have very little to gain but are risking a lot but have a lot to lose. >> peter, can one put a timetable on this war in afghanistan? >> anderson, i think there is a political timetable in the united states and nato country which is probably about a year. if there isn't progress being made 54% of americans think the war was a mistake according to a recent poll by cnn, it was only 9% in 2002. the american public is getting increasingly skeptical. 54 house democrats voted against

funding for the war back in may. there will be an issue if progress isn't happening and the midterm elections in 2010 gear up. to get afghanistan on track to stability is going to take longer than a year. >> peter bergen, michael ware, thanks very much. a lot more at ac360.com. peter bergen's dispatch on the taliban. join the live chat at ac360.com. we'll have the latest on the michael jackson story. his doctor, conrad murray, speaking out for the first time, why now? why on youtube? junk science in court. convicting innocent people. a lot of these things are not precise and phony. a man who spent half his life in prison because of shoddy crime scene practices and it could happen to you. ♪ select eyeglass frames are just $9 at walmart -- and they have a 12-month guarantee. ♪

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tonight the doctor at the center of michael jackson's death investigation is speaking out on camera for the first time

telling he says the truth about what happened. well, telling very little about it. dr. conrad murray was jackson's primary physician. he is the subject of a possible manslaughter case and possibly gave jackson an powerful anesthetic. he kept a very low profile since jackson's death. today that changed. >> reporter: it may be just 60 seconds long, but that's long enough for michael jackson's doctor to say he told the truth. >> i have done all i could do. i told the truth and i have faith the truth will prevail. >> reporter: dr. murray has been interviewed twice by investigators. this is the first time since his star patient died back in june he is speaking out publicly. the doctor was at jackson's beverly hills mansion when he stopped breathing. his lawyer's office says he is "under siege with threats and has a body guard 24/7."

>> because of all that is going on, i'm afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail. therefore, i recorded this video to let all of you know i have been receiving your messages. >> reporter: a source with knowledge of the investigation told cnn that dr. murray gave jackson the powerful sedative diprivan within 24 hours of his death. that anesthetic which investigators believe killed him is not supposed to be used outside a hospital setting. there is no mention of michael jackson or his treatment on the video. a spokeswoman for dr. murray's lawyer says the video was recorded last night inside a houston home. dr. murray did not write it but it was his idea to record it. she told me doctor murray's lawyer gets 20 to 30 calls a day from patients and strangers asking him to tell dr. murray they love him and are praying for him.

dr. murray's clinics in houston and las vegas have been searched by federal drug agents. his vegas home was searched. >> your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. they mean the world to me. please, don't worry. as long as i keep god in my heart and you in my life, i will be fine. >> reporter: but there is more. dr. murray may be the target of a wrongful death lawsuit brought by the jackson family t. family's lawyer says the idea has been "floated" and that dr. murray and jackson's tour promoter, aeg, could be named. dr. murray's lawyer's spokeswoman said we are asking people to reserve their judgment until we have definite ruling on what killed michael jackson. at aeg a spokesman told me he was not aware of any lawsuit. dr. murray was not an aeg employee but was hand picked by jackson to treat him on tour.

he was to be paid $150,000 a month. money from the tour's budget that had been advanced to jackson. the singer died before dr. murray ever saw a penny. >> randy joins us now. i guess him going on youtube is a way to get his voice out without being asked questions. >> right. this is for his supporters and former patients. his clinics are temporarily closed. his team is trying to show his softer side. they have told me over the months since jackson's death they have been trying to find a way to get him out there and show another side of him. >> without anyone asking him tough questions. >> right. clearly he is using a teleprompter. he didn't apologize or admit to wrongdoing. he said he told the truth, probably to investigators, but he didn't finish that sentence. his star patient, michael jackson, came out at the height

of the child molestation and used the internet. >> i'm not sure how many favors he did for himself. i'm not sure how effective the communication was. >> i'm not sure either. >> burial plans. i was stunned. i thought michael jackson had been buried? >> the family confirmed he has not been buried. they will bury him a week from saturday, august 29th, his 51st birthday. a private ceremony with family and close friends. forest lawn glendale. >> and 100 helicopters. >> exactly. and media trucks. this is 15 minutes from the forest lawn hollywood hills where he has been until now. there are a lot of celebrities there. the cemetery is used to media including humphrey bogart, sammy davis jr., clark cable, jimmy stewart, walt disney is buried there.

pope john paul ii visited there. ronald reagan got married there. 60,000 people got married there. it is quite an attraction. i'm sure people will look to find where michael jackson is buried. up next, the danger of dna. forensic science put this guy behind bars even though he was apparently innocent. we are live with dr. sanjay gupta with the behind the scenes look at the reality of csi.

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tonight a stunning new development in forensic science and it could be a major setback for prosecutors and police. researchers in israel said they could engineer dna and place the fake sample at a crime scene. if true, it could be a remarkable development. it is also a troubling one. dna has been used to exonerate hundreds of people wrongly convicted. we have a story of how it put an innocent man behind bars for decades and how a crime lab in texas was apparently responsible. >> reporter: this is ernest sonya's first day of freedom.

behind bars since 1986 for a kidnapping and rape. are you angry ernest? >> i'm angry, but i'm not, you know, i forgive though. i forgive but i won't forget. >> reporter: sonnier is angry because he said he was innocent. once dna testing became available he wanted authorities to exam en the evidence. now the authorities agree. the dna evidence says sonnier did not commit the crime. he is the sixth prisoner free a victim of shoddy work by the houston crime lab. >> the houston crime lab is everything that has gone wrong. >> barry scheck is the co-director of the innocence project working to exonerate wrongly convicted people. the group took on sonnier's

case. >> there were numerous balances where analysts misreported their results or hid exculpatory results. >> reporter: add to that a leaky roof and tropical storm that flooded the lab in 2002 and they earn the label junk science. >> the past problems are uncon shen shl. >> reporter: the local district attorney wants a county lab to take over duties of the troubled city police lab. >> it is vital we have an independent crime lab. >> reporter: the victim in this case was kidnapped at this gas station. the victim identified sonnier. the hair was supposed to have been found in the car. junk science not only wrecks the life of someone like ernest

sonnier but harms us the public. the person or persons who kidnapped the victim from this lot nearly a quarter of century ago have never been health accountable. will the authorities reprosecute? the answer is no because the statute of limit takeses has expired. how does it make you feel the two people the dna implicated can't be prosecuted. >> because of the the statute of limit takeses it makes me sick. >> what is that? >> a monitor. >> reporter: he wears the monitor because the d.a. says more investigation is necessary before he is officially cleared. >> if more evidence existed he would have never been indicted. >> reporter: the same dank evidence has been available for a long time. why was it never looked at? >> there was no mechanism. >> reporter: now there is.

every conviction using dna evidence is being reviewed in houston's harris county t. wrongly convicted will go free, the correctly convicted will stay where they belong. gary tuchman, cnn, houston. >> so scary. how does this happen. do juries and the criminal justice system put too much faith in dna science. sanjay gupta, jeffrey toobin said dna is the gold standard. >> it is. the chance of being inaccurate is 1 in 10 trillion. there are 6 billion people on the planet so it is the gold standard. there are problems. if it is improperly collected, old, contaminated in the process it throws everything into question. there are lots of different steps to make it accurate if you can dot all those is, cross the ts, it would be a good savrm. >> this person was convicted

because of hair on the victim. they weren't his hairs proven by other dna testing. >> that is remarkable. i was at a lab like this today looking at hair samples. i had my own hair tested trying to figure out if they could make a correlation between hair from different parts of my head. it was more difficult. they needed lots of hair to do it first of all. second of all, hair can be different from different parts of your head and different amounts of pigment. it is hardly ever used in isolation. it sounds like from gary's piece, it shouldn't be. it should be used as part of a broader investigation, other evidence at the scene and if you have dna to try to use that. >> some of the labs are under pressure and don't have enough resources or shoddy equipment or shoddy facilities. >> i was talking to some of the investigators today, 100 investigators handle 600 cases a year. each case is day and days of

work. i can tell from a macro standpoint there is a lot of work for any investigator. what i did sense talking to these investigators is there are specific pieces of data, whether it be hair or fiber analysis, ballistics or gunpowder or dna that unless they are positive they are not going to put that forward. it is hard to get irrefutable evidence. >> we are learning ballistics testing is not as accurate, bite mark testing. you are putting together this piece for tomorrow night on crime labs. you will show us how they work and what they are up against. >> it was interesting for me. i haven't seen some of it before. you mentioned ballistics, how does that work? we had someone fire the gun, look at the bullets what are the fingerprints, if you will, inside the barrel of a gun. we looked at hair and fiber analysis. i'm going to show you how they figure out what is known and

unknown and core late and dna analysis. it is the gold standard but where can it go wrong. we go in the lab and see that firsthand. >> all right. cool. we look forward to it. excuse me. goodness. if you want a "360" alert on stories we are covering we can help you. text alert to 22360. remember standard messaging rates apply. up next, speaking out, the bollywood star upset over how he was treated in the u.s. it sparked massive protests in india. what this is all about coming up. having trouble parallel parking. wait until you see what this kid can do. she wants to make up.

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making fewer visits to this country because of it. he asked people to lay low and calm down. the questioning was humiliating but wants people to back off. but may make fewer movies. >> he was here to promote a movie he made about racial profiling about muslims in the wake of 911. >> yeah. time for "beat 360." tonight's picture, oops, dropped something. vice president biden and secretary of state clinton listens to president obama meets with mubarak. rick, i would have put the desk over there the lamp over there, the minibar here. our viewer, hello awkward, i

would like to introduce you to my friend uncomfortable. someone stopped me and asked me how they can get a beat 360 t-shirt. >> you said you have to win. >> no really, how do i get one? >> what did they think just because you are anderson cooper you can pull strings? >> they asked me if i had one and i don't. >> that is because you don't want one. there will be one on your desk when you get here tomorrow morning, you mark my words, cooper. dr. murray posting a video on youtube getting his side of the story across without answering tough questions. a pint-size driver who can parallel park a car like nobody's business.

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erica, for "the shot" we found a kid in a car. we don't know how old he is or where he is from. the video tells the story. take a look. >> nice parking, bud. >> i love it. >> did you take a picture of it? >> i did. >> i like that. i wish i could do that well. >> that reminds me remember the kid maybe a month ago who went for a joyride, 7 years old. >> this little guy. >> i never saw this. >> maybe you were away. >> a little kid in utah led police on a car chase. it turned out he didn't want to go to church so he took the car

and hit the road. >> someone was videotaping him? >> this is a different one. this is not the one we were planning to play. this is a totally different kid. >> that looks like this child is being encouraged by old eer members of his family. if you are taking the car to get away from sunday school that is a different story. if your mom is in the car -- >> enjoy. i like how everyone was digitized in that video. >> just in case no one d be incriminated. >> let's show this one again, shall we. >> yeah. >> there you go. my favorite is still the kid coming home from the dentist, high as a kite. remember that one? >> oh, yeah. his poor dad took some flak. >> i know. but the kid -- >> apparently the kid is fine.

>> the dentist lost his license. no, he didn't. stop me before i get in trouble. breaking news in health care reform. is the white house going to go nuclear and adopt a no-compromise strategy, just ramming it through? the latest from our washington correspondents coming up. a a aa

>> tonight, breaking news that could change everything in the white house battle for health care reform. call it the nuclear option. after negotiating with the republicans cnn has learned the administration could be getting closer to a very big change, crafting a health care bill and try to ram it through the senate

even if it passes by only a single vote. this comes, of course, after taking it on the chin at town halls. some things not part of any plan. this weekend the white house seemed to back away from the so-called public option, a government provided insurance alternative. the white house says today they still want that public option. now they may be considering some tough moves to make that happen. ed henry has solid sourcing, so does dana bash. first ed with what his sources are telling him. what did you learn? >> reporter: the key is there is no final decision. top democrats close to the white house say they are actively considering a possibility doing a go it alone strategy. a budget maneuver, very obscure known as reconciliation where they would need a simple majority, 51 votes instead of 60 votes. republicans would scream this is a power grab, underhanded move. white house officials are laying the groundwork saying we have been working with republicans for months. if they don't get something done in the next few weeks we will take drastic measures.

as one top adviser is to the president said to me, if we have to push it through this way no one will remember how messy it is. what they will remember is we got health care done. a win is a win. that is what people will remember, it will be messy, but if they have to do it they think people will forget about the process and remember the substance. >> do you know what that means for the public option? is this a way of guaranteeing that? >> this makes it more likely there will be a pup option but does not guarantee it. if they don't need to win over as many con soit democrats in the senate or any moderate republicans let alone conservative republicans it is more likely there would be a public option. everything is on the table and potentially off the table. there is a lot of horse trading going on and nothing is guaranteed. >> dana, what are you hearing from your sources about moving forward without republicans? >> what i've been hearing from the past couple of days jibes with what ed is saying.

from administration and hill sources on the democratic side that they are saying that they believe more and more that republicans, the lead republicans negotiating, have been negotiating for months are not serious and not as serious as they were about having a robust bipartisan deal. that is because of comments they say that chuck grassley, the lead republican has made over the past couple of days suggesting he is not really in negotiations he is just in talks. and comments saying if he can't get more than four republicans it is going to be tough. that plus comments from another senate republican today, jon kyl, the number two republican ripping the idea of any kind of health care at all. all those taken together is a signal that they are probably going to have to do this with democrats alone. republicans are saying that democrats are using that as an excuse but maybe republicans are giving them one to push forward

without them. >> ed henry, if this is true and seriously under consideration it seems a far cry from what we were hearing over the weekend from the white house, from kathleen sebelius, from the president himself, from robert gibbs talking about the public option being one of several things and the key thing is competition and choice. to go from that to suddenly moving forward ramming this thing through it seems like all day today they have been saying nothing is changing. it seems like a lot has changed. >> you are right. here is the reason why -- that is why they are not pulling the trigger tonight on this. over the weekend it was about the president showing flexibility saturday night on the town hall. maybe there won't be a public option. kathleen sebelius on john king's "state of the union" leaving the door open to no public option. she didn't close the door either. that was about trying to bring in kent conrad, a conservative democrat like ben nelson in the senate, show flexibility.

if they ram this through with this procedural motion that will close that door and conservative democrats will be potentially angry. what this is all about this weekend is showing flexibility, giving conservative democrats and moderate republicans a couple more weeks, to the end of the recess. the key time frame will be mid september when congress comes back. they are going to let it go until then. if there is no movement then they would pull the trigger. >> anderson, it was very interesting, today chuck grassley, the lead republican who has been trying to -- been in that room trying to negotiate something he revealed in a private meeting with the president he's the one who suggested that the president should make public that he could go for a bill that doesn't have the government-run health care option. so you have so much maneuvering going on and it would seem on the one hand if something like chuck grassley, that republican, could stay onboard because of

what the president said. just like ed is saying, i mean, the key here that we have to remember is it is not about republicans. what you do with the conservative democrats. there are many than people realize. members of the president's own party who don't necessarily agree with the core approach of the public option. that is the tough part for the white house right now. >> it could get rough. dana bash, ed henry, thanks. more on the "raw politics" with alex castellanos and roy sekoff. roy, what do you make of this? is this wise for the white house to choose this option? >> it is actually very good news. the only thing they have been consistent with is their inconsistency. this has been going on for months.

remember in july when obama was in russia, rahm emanuel floated the trial balloon of no public option and obama had to walk it back from russia, which is very far. sarah palin could see it from her porch. this is what people have been waiting for, progressives have been waiting for, the president to make a strong move this is what i'm for. i'm drawing a line in the sand and there will not be legislation i will sign if it doesn't have the public option, the right to negotiate, prevention. really clear signal. this is what we are finally seeing. >> alex, this is something president bush did on several things. is this wise for president obama to do? >> well, it doesn't solve his political problem. he may have drawn a line in the sand but sand shifts. they misplayed their hand here. you don't give up your big negotiating chip before you get to the negotiating table. that is what secretary sebelius

did saying that they might be willing to give up the public plan. the left wing of if democratic party went up in flames. the worst thing an incumbent president can have is a primary from the wing, a loss of support of enthusiasm. barack obama is trying to recoupe his political chips. we'll have to wait and see if he is not willing to throw the government-run plan under the bus. remember the problem here is not republicans. he has 60 votes in the senate. now he is saying the government-run plan is so unpopular, hey, i'll take 50 votes and give democrats cover. a lot of democrats will have tough political races in 2010. barack obama won't be on the ballot but this health plan will be. >> roy, for progressives, is the public option something that cannot be negotiated away? >> yeah. there is no real reform without the public option. what the democrats are saying is alex is right. this could be a losing issue in 2010 if they let it get whittled down to the point where it is reform only in name, right? at that point it won't work because it won't work without

real reform and the republicans will use it in 2010 and 2012 saying, see, the government can't do anything right. i think this is a real key issue. alex is right. the base is in danger. there was a story in the "new york times," the grassroots people are not rising up on this issue because they have been so unclear about it. i mean, people are not going to leave their houses to pitch something they are not clear what it is. >> anderson this is a very different obama than we saw in the campaign. obama the campaign is there is no red america, no blue america, no republican, no democrat. there is one america. tonight if what we are hearing is correct, if he says we are going to cling to the public plan no matter what, he is saying blue america wins. i'm the president of that america. this government-run plan doesn't have the support in the middle. that's why he is losing democrat support in the senate and thinking of trying to jam this through quickly with 50 votes. >> roy, do you think this is

something they would go ahead with or maybe trying to float this idea to put pressure on everyone to come to some sort of agreement? >> i think that has to be part of it. just today gibbs said they hadn't decided whether they were going to stop negotiating with the republicans. kyl said he wasn't going to whip up votes and grassley saying he might not support the thing he was negotiating for. all the signals were there and they weren't sure. when would they be sure? when the support of the american people drop to 29%? this is something they are putting out there as a threat they could pull back. it is a smart move. >> anderson a lot of democrats were saying if we are not going to get a government-run plan the holy grail of a democratic party why did he burn up 20 points of political capital, why did he spend six months, seeing his job

ratings drop from the 70s to 50. we could have done this six months ago. he needs to get the chips on the table. if he needs the chips at the end, we'll see. i think it is still in play. >> roy sekoff, alex castellanos, we appreciate it. michael jackson's doctor speaking out. randy kay joins us with a quick preview. >> it has been nearly two months since michael jackson died, for the first time tonight his personal physician who was at his house when he suffered cardiac arrest is talking. it was not an interview, but a taped video statement. we'll play that video for you. you can judge what you think of dr. murray's statements that he "told the truth." remember, he is a central figure in the investigation of manslaughter and a killer cocktail of drugs. also new, michael jackson will finally be laid to rest.

we'll give you the details when and where. >> there is more at ac360.com. join the live chat underway. up next, back to health care. sanjay gupta taking the questions you have been sending in to our site. new evidence of who may have ordered the ninja assassins to kill byrd and melanie billings. or were they just robbers? one of their 13 children saw that terrible evening. we talk to the local sheriff who has plenty to say. ♪

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support and push it through the senate with 51 votes. let's turn to "360" m.d. sanjay gupta. he's been gathering your questions about health care reform at ac360.com. it has been a busy day. sanjay, our first question is from shatika who asks what would the public option cover? >> your primary care. your emergency care. there would be several levels of care, shuktika. a basic plan a premium plan, a premium plus plan at different rates, different premiums. what is important which is your point not everyone is eligible to be covered under the public option. imagine situations like this. you are uninsured. you go to an exchange, a health exchange and look at the options including a public option. if you don't have access to private insurance or medicare or medicaid, you might qualify for the public option. you can't have premiums that are less than 11% of your total income as well that is a lot of numbers to throw at you.

keep in mind not everyone will qualify for the public option. >> janet wants to know how does the plan focus on prevention? >> this is a great question, something we have been hearing since the beginnings of the discussions about health care reform. a senate finance committee is going to give funding to the states to try to come up with innovative programs for health and wellness. the house committee is going to come up with national strategies to make us a healthier country overall. it makes sense to keep someone from getting sick in the first place. a woman who has diabetes, she might be able to get blood sugar checks in her home as opposed to the e.r. with blood sugars out of control. other people say it is hard to legislate good behavior. people have fantastic insurance access to everything in the world and are still not very good at taking care of themselves. how exactly it will play out is hard to tell. >> dottie says how will the

reform effect people on medicare and medicaid? >> these are great questions. dottie, first of all, what we are hearing from the white house and the president specifically there should be no impact on the overall services provided by medicare and medicaid. having said that you hear hundreds of billions of dollars of wasteful spending of medicare will be eliminated. what people are worried about is if you are cutting money from medicare at the same time a population is getting older, how is that going to work out? are you going to cover everyone on medicare like it is now? fewer than 10% of people on medicare say they have had a bad experience with medicare. most of the people are generally satisfied with the way things are now. two more points. it is likely that under the health care reform we are hearing about, medicare and medicaid may get bigger. it may allow people from 55 to 64 to buy in at full cost and

raise the income level at which you qualify for medicaid. expansion of those governmental programs as well. >> sanjay, appreciate it. a lot more ahead. the local sheriff with new evidence on the murder of byrd and melanie billings. more on the jackson case. michael jackson's doctor speaking out for the first time. >> please, don't worry. as long as i keep god in my heart and you in my life, i will be fine. shopping online can help save. doing it with bank of america can help save a lot more. up to 20% cash back from over 300 online retailers with our add it up program. just sign up and use your bank of america debit or credit card when you shop online. it's one of the many ways we make saving money in tough times a whole lot easier.

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we are fast approaching perhaps the most dangerous moment in afghanistan since american forces went in. 60,000 american forces in harm's way two days away from a presidential election with the taliban trying to go all out to make it a blood bath. they hit a main road killing eight, wounding 50. one soldier dead, two afghans working for the u.n. a rocket attack on the presidential palace. two american troops were killed in eastern afghanistan. three afghans blown up at a checkpoint. remember the purple fingers the iraqi voters got? in afghanistan they are planning to do the same. the taliban is threatening to chop those fingers off. high stakes all around. national security analyst peter bergmann and mafl ware, two veterans of the conflict. the taliban made it clear they are going to interview with the election. >> they have been somewhat effective. up to 10% of the polling places

are not going to open because of taliban intimidation. these kinds of attacks -- i was just in afghanistan talking to folks there, a lot of people advising their families not to vote because they are concerned on the way to the polling station or coming out of there they would be subject to attacks by the taliban. >> michael, the fact they did a rocket attack on the presidential palace, what does that say? >> i think it is symbolic more than anything. it wasn't effective. we have seen attacks in the capital kabul before. on that same jalalabad road i witnessed an attack. it is not new but it is timely. it is a reminder. the taliban is using the power of perception to intimidate voters. i don't believe their power to effectively stop the elections exists. but can they disrupt, can they spoil in certain areas? can they cast a pal over it?

that is possible. >> peter, how is the battle where marines are now fighting, how is that going? >> well, i think, according to the spokesmen for the marines in the south the battle is -- they haven't necessarily encountered a large numbers of the taliban. the taliban have plenty of notice to leave. there have been spots where there has been intense fighting. we have seen the taliban mounting attacks in the north. clearly the taliban have a strategy if they know there is going to be large attacks by u.s. forces in the south they will try to mount other attacks in the north and now as we've seen in the capital. >> from your perspective, michael, how do you see the battle? >> i think the battle has only just begun. if you look the map of the marines and the brits are targeting, that is heldman province.

that is part -- it is classic insurgent tactics. if you face overwhelming forces, you pull back to fight and wait for another day. >> the fact the border is porous makes that easier? >> absolutely. the lines of communication, the supply lines in and out of pakistan remain intact. in that one province, heldman, 4,000 marines have gone in. they are not halfway through the province yet in terms of taliban concentration. there is a long way to go if anyone thinks we can take heldman province. >> peter, do we know, is karzai expected to win this election? >> yes. he could win the first round, anderson. i would predict that is quite possible in the most recent poll he was getting 44%. he needs 50%. he has allowed the return of a war lord, uzbek war lord who controls 10% of the vote. that might put him over the 50% mark in which case it is only one round. >> michael what is a karzai victory mean for america?

>> well, for america this is a very complicated election. karzai has been an ally of america. he failed to deliver for america. his government by definition of any afghan government is a hodgepodge of war lords with an administration riddled with corruption. the fact that he named dusdum to push him over the line, he is being investigated by the obama administration for crimes against humanity. that is the nature of afghan politics. this is an election where u.s. strategic interests have very little to gain but are risking a lot but have a lot to lose. >> peter, can one put a timetable on this war in afghanistan? >> anderson, i think there is a political timetable in the

united states and nato country which is probably about a year. if there isn't progress being made 54% of americans think the war was a mistake according to a recent poll by cnn, it was only 9% in 2002. the american public is getting increasingly skeptical. 54 house democrats voted against funding for the war back in may. there will be an issue if progress isn't happening and the midterm elections in 2010 gear up. to get afghanistan on track to stability is going to take longer than a year. >> peter bergen, michael ware, thanks very much. a lot more at ac360.com. peter bergen's dispatch on the taliban titled "hardly winning." join the live chat at ac360.com. we'll have the latest on the michael jackson story. his doctor, conrad murray, speaking out for the first time,

why now? why on youtube? you can guess that. junk science in court. convicting innocent people. csi is a fantasy, reality? a lot of these things are not precise and phony. a man who spent half his life in prison because of shoddy crime scene practices and it could happen to you.

tonight the doctor at the

center of michael jackson's death investigation is speaking out on camera for the first time telling he says the truth about what happened. well, telling very little about it. dr. conrad murray was jackson's primary physician. he is the subject of a possible manslaughter case and possibly gave jackson an powerful anesthetic. he kept a very low profile since jackson's death. today that changed. >> reporter: it may be just 60 seconds long, but that's long enough for michael jackson's doctor to say he told the truth. >> i have done all i could do. i told the truth and i have faith the truth will prevail. >> reporter: dr. murray has been interviewed twice by investigators. this is the first time since his star patient died back in june he is speaking out publicly. the doctor was at jackson's beverly hills mansion when he stopped breathing. he's at the center of the investigation into the star's death.

his lawyer's office says he is "under siege with threats and has a body guard 24/7." >> because of all that is going on, i'm afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail. therefore, i recorded this video to let all of you know i have been receiving your messages. >> reporter: a source with knowledge of the investigation told cnn that dr. murray gave jackson the powerful sedative diprivan, also known as propofol, within 24 hours of his death. that anesthetic which investigators believe killed him is not supposed to be used outside a hospital setting. there is no mention of michael jackson or his treatment on the video. a spokeswoman for dr. murray's lawyer says the video was recorded last week inside a houston home. dr. murray did not write it but it was his idea to record it. she told me doctor murray's lawyer gets 20 to 30 calls a day from patients and strangers asking him to tell dr. murray they love him and are praying

for him. dr. murray's clinics in houston and las vegas have been searched by federal drug agents. his vegas home was searched. >> your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. they mean the world to me. please, don't worry. as long as i keep god in my heart and you in my life, i will be fine. >> reporter: but there is more. dr. murray may be the target of a wrongful death lawsuit brought by the jackson family. the family's lawyer says the idea has been "floated and that dr. murray and jackson's tour promoter, aeg, could be named. dr. murray's lawyer's spokeswoman said we are asking people to reserve their judgment until we have definite ruling on what killed michael jackson. at aeg a spokesman told me he was not aware of any lawsuit.

dr. murray was not an aeg employee but was hand picked by jackson to treat him on tour. he was to be paid $150,000 a month. money from the tour's budget that had been advanced to jackson. the singer died before dr. murray ever saw a penny. >> randy joins us now. i guess him going on youtube is a way to get his voice out without being asked questions. >> right. this is for his supporters and former patients. his clinics are temporarily closed. his team is trying to show his softer side. they have told me over the months since jackson's death they have been trying to find a way to get him out there and show another side of him. instead of him being painted as this monster. >> without anyone asking him tough questions. >> right. clearly he is using a teleprompter. he didn't apologize or admit to wrongdoing. he said he told the truth, probably to investigators, but he didn't finish that sentence. we've seen this before.

his star patient, michael jackson, came out at the height of the child molestation and used the internet. and put out this video. we've seen it with other celebrities. >> i'm not sure how many favors he did for himself. i'm not sure how effective the communication was. >> i'm not sure either. >> burial plans. i was stunned. i thought michael jackson had been buried? >> you and other people. the family has confirmed he hasn't been buried yet. they will bury him a week from saturday, august 29th, his 51st birthday. a private ceremony with family and close friends. forest lawn glendale. >> and 100 helicopters. >> exactly. and media trucks. this is 15 minutes from the forest lawn hollywood hills where he has been until now. there are a lot of celebrities there. the cemetery is used to media including humphrey bogart, sammy davis jr., clark cable, jimmy stewart, walt disney is buried

there. it's a bit of a hollywood tourist trap. pope john paul ii visited there. ronald reagan got married there. 60,000 people got married there. it is quite an attraction. i'm sure people will look to find where michael jackson is buried. >> randy, appreciate it. up next, the danger of dna. forensic science put this guy behind bars even though he was apparently innocent. how could it happen? we'll show you. we are live with dr. sanjay gupta with the behind the scenes look at the reality of csi. "what do you mean homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods?" "a few inches of water caused all this?" "but i don't even live near the water." what you don't know about flood insurance may shock you. including the fact that a preferred risk policy starts as low as $119 a year. for an agent, call the number on your screen.

tonight a stunning new development in forensic science and it could be a major setback for prosecutors and police. researchers in israel said they could engineer dna and place the fake sample at a crime scene. if true, it could be a remarkable development. it is also a troubling one. dna has been used to exonerate hundreds of people wrongly convicted. tonight as we begin a series of

forensic science, junk science often, we have a story of how it put an innocent man behind bars for decades and how a crime lab in texas was apparently responsible. gary tuchman has more in tonight's "crime and punishment" report. >> reporter: this is ernest sonnier's first moment of freedom after spending half his life as a prisoner. how old are you ernest? >> 46. >> reporter: how old were you when you went to prison? >> 23. >> reporter: hin bars since 1986 for a kidnapping and rape. are you angry ernest? >> i'm angry, but i'm not, you know, i forgive though. i forgive but i won't forget. >> reporter: sonnier is angry because he said he was innocent. once dna testing became available he wanted authorities to examine the genetic evidence. now the authorities agree. the dna evidence says sonnier did not commit the crime. here is a twist. sonnier is the sixth prisoner freed following accusations of

shoddy work from the same laboratory run by the houston police. >> the houston crime lab is ground zero for everything that has gone wrung with crime labs in the criminal justice system. >> barry scheck is the co-director of the innocence project working to exonerate wrongly convicted people. the group took on sonnier's case. >> there were numerous instances where crime lab analysts misreported their results or hid exculpatory results. the whole lob terry was woefully mismanaged. >> reporter: add to that a leaky roof and tropical storm that flooded the lab in 2002 and they earn the label junk science. >> the past problems they had are unconscionable. >> reporter: the local district attorney wants a physician operated county lab to take over the duties of the troubled city lab. >> it is vital we have an independent crime lab. >> reporter: the victim in this

case was kidnapped at this gas station. which used to operate on this houston corner. the victim identified sonnier. jurors were told his hair was found in the vehicle. the dna shows it was definitely not his hair. the dank indicates two other men committed the crime and authorities know who they are, felons who are no longer behind bars. junk science not only wrecks the life of someone like ernest sonnier but harms us the public. the person or persons who kidnapped the victim from this lot nearly a quarter of century ago have never been health accountable. will the authorities reopen the case and prosecute? the answer is no because the ta chut of limitations has expired. how does it make you feel the two people the dna implicated can't be prosecuted. >> because of the the statute of limit takes, it makes me sick. >> what is that? >> a monitor. >> reporter: he wears the monitor because the d.a. says

more investigation is necessary before he is officially cleared. >> if what exists now had existed when mr. sonnier was tried he never would have been indicted for that offense. >> reporter: the same dna evidence has been available for a long time. why was it never looked at? >> there was no mechanism. >> reporter: now there is. every conviction using dna evidence is being reviewed in houston's harris county. hundreds of cases. the wrongly convicted will go free, the correctly convicted will stay where they belong. gary tuchman, cnn, houston. >> so scary. how does this happen. do juries and the criminal justice system put too much faith in forensic science? sanjay gupta joins us now. how accurate is dna? we had jeffrey toobin on who said dna is the gold standard. >> it is. the chance of being inaccurate is 1 in 10 trillion.

there are 6 billion people on the planet so it is the gold standard. there are problems. if it is improperly collected, old, contaminated in the process it throws everything into question. there are lots of different steps to make it accurate if you can dot all those is, cross the ts, it would be a very good sample. >> this person was convicted because of hair on the victim. they weren't his hairs proven by later dna testing. >> that is remarkable. i was at a lab like this today looking specifically at hair samples. i had my own hair tested trying to figure out if they could make a correlation between hair from different parts of my head. in fact it was more difficult for them. they needed lots of hair to do it first of all. second of all, hair can be different from different parts of your head and different amounts of pigment. it is hardly ever used in isolation. it sounds like from gary's piece it was in this case.

it shouldn't be. it should be used as part of a broader investigation, other evidence at the scene and if you have dna to try to use that. >> some of the labs are under pressure and frankly aren't up to the job and don't have enough resources or shoddy equipment or shoddy facilities? >> i was talking to some of the investigators today, 100 investigators handle 600 cases a year. each case is day and days of work. i can tell from a macro standpoint there is a lot of work for any investigator. what i did sense talking to these investigators is there are specific pieces of data, whether it be hair or fiber analysis, ballistics or gunpowder or dna that unless they are positive at least in the lab i visited, they are not going to put that farther. it is hard to get irrefutable evidence, anderson, except with a complete dna sample. >> we are learning ballistics testing is not as accurate, bite mark testing, not as accurate. you are putting together this piece for tomorrow night on crime labs.

you will show us how they work and what they are up against. >> it was interesting for me. i haven't seen some of it before. you mentioned ballistics, how does that work? we had someone fire the gun, look at the bullets trying to figure out what are the fingerprints, if you will, inside the barrel of a gun. we looked at hair and fiber analysis. i'm going to show you how they figure out what is known and unknown and try to correlate those things. and dank analysis. it is the gold standard but where can it go wrong. we go in the lab and see that firsthand. >> all right. cool. we look forward to it. if you want "360" stories, text alert to 22360. up next, speaking out, the bollywood star upset over how he was treated in the u.s. it sparked massive protests in india. his fans taking to the streets outraged at america. what this is all about coming up. having trouble parallel parking? wait until you see what this kid

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coming up, kids behind the wheel driving with gust toe. until in one case the price intervened. that's tonight another "shot." the 360 news and business bulletin. good news for a change from detroit. we'll stick with cars for a minute. gm brings back hundreds of assembly line workers to make 60,000 more vehicles, most

fuel-efficient cars. demand driven by the cash for clunkers program. other news helping to fuel a reality today on wall street. a 360 follow for you there. details in the florida murders of melanie and byrd billings. court documents reveal the alleged master mind was hired by car dealers to, quote, whack byrd billings. one of the couple's 13 children, a 10-year-old with special needs saw his father murdered. we did have the local sheriff booked for a live interview tonight. technical difficulties got in the way. university of pittsburgh saying no thanks to the gunman's blood money. he left his all ma mater a quarter million dollars. the university today releasing a statement saying the money should benefit his 12 victims and their families instead. an indian movie star says he'll be making fewer visits to this country. officials stopped him for

routine questioning. that incident touched off protests and political uproar in india. he's asked people to lay low and calm down saying it wasn't that bad. the questioning was a little hue mule yating but wanting people to back off. >> he was here to promote a movie he made about racial profiling of muslims in the wake of 9/11 and gets detained more than an hour at the airport. tyke for our beat 360 winner. come up a caption better than the one we come up with for a photo on the blog every day. tonight's picture -- dropped something. secretary of state clinton listen as president obama meets with egyptian president in the oval office. staff winner, rick. his caption, i would have put the desk over there, the lamp over there, the mini bar here. viewer win r, billy from virginia. his caption, hello, awkward, i'd

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we found another kid in a car. on the website funnyordie.com. the video tells the story. take a look. >> nice parking, bud. >> i love it. >> did you take a picture of it? >> yes, i did. >> i like it. wish i could do that well. >> remember the kid maybe a month ago who went for a joyride? 7 years old? >> oh, yeah. >> this little guy, i think it's him? >> i never saw this, actually. >> maybe you were away.

a little kid in utah led police on a car chase. turned out he didn't want to go to church so he took the car and hit the road. >> someone was videotaping him? >> i think this is a different one. i don't think this is the one we were actually planning to play. >> yeah. >> it's a totally different video. >> that is not the kid fleeing from police. >> this looks like this child is being encouraged by members of his family to drive. we don't endorse that at "360." >> if you're taking the car to get awa i from sunday school, that's a different story. if your mom is in the car, that's not cool. >> enjoy. interpret it as you will. >> the gift that keeps on giving. >> everybody was digitizing that camera it looks like. >> in case no one -- >> why show it at all? let's show this one again, shall we? >> oh, yeah. >> there you go. my favorite is still the kid coming home from the