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credibility and security. the reaction from some bush loyalists was swift. former chief of staff, andy card telling politico "we went over backward repeatly and with great discipline to make sure politics did not influence national security or homeland security decisions. " corallo says -- now would be a good time for mr. ridge to use his emergency duct tape. frances townsend, a cnn national security adviser and political contributor paul begala. do you believe tom ridge is trying to sell books here? >> absolutely. i will tell you, anderson, it is interesting to me. secretary napolitano, the current secretary asked a bipartisan group to consider suggestions to improve the terror alert system. i'm co-chairing that group. we asked for secretary ridge to express his -- see the group, talk to us and express his
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concerns or suggestions. that was less than three weeks ago. he never mentioned concern about politicization. >> in 2005 he said publicly and it was quoted in "usa today" at the time though people didn't pay much attention, more often than not we were the least inclined to raise it. sometimes we disagreed with intelligence assessments. sometimes when the intelligence was good you don't necessarily put the country on alert. there were times when people were aggressive about raising it and we said, for that? clearly, he was expressing divisions. he didn't talk about politics in particular at the time, though. >> a lot of that had to do with, anderson, there are costs resource wise and credibility wise to raise it. you don't want to do it unnecessarily. that has nothing to do with politics. it is very expensive. the burden on state and local law enforcement for example. you can't sustain it for a very long period of time. tom had legitimate reasons when he was concerned about that but it had nothing to do with politics. anderson, i chaired this meeting
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and i will tell you that john ashcroft and don rumsfeld had concerns but they were based on the intelligence not the politics of what was going on at the time. >> paul, didn't he have a duty to say so at the time or when he resigned if he thought politics did play in this? >> yes, frankly, he did. we do have contemporaneous confirmation. one of the questions of secretary ridge had yesterday when this came out, why is he really doing it? fran just did that, impugning his motive. saying he is doing this to sell books. the guy has been successful in business. he is on the board of directors of a bunch of big companies. he is making plenty of money. within three months of resigning he did, in fact, say as you pointed out as a washington forum that "usa today" covered there was enormous pressure to raise these levels and a pattern of raising those levels. they raised the threat level after the democratic convention based on three-year-old
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information, the specter of a terrorist attack just a few days before the 2006 elections. remember, the nfl football stadiums were all going to be targeted. cnn, this network reported that was not a credible threat or a credible report at all. so there is a long history here. i would be real careful about impugning secretary ridge's motives. >> fran, you are basically saying he is lying. >> well, look, i don't understand if he felt that way why he didn't speak out publicly at the time. and by the way, literally three weeks ago when he had a bipartisan group in front of him, eminent state and local officials, prior elected officials, why didn't he say that he has a concern about the credibility of the system because it is vulnerable to the playing of politics? >> paul, what do you say of that? >> it could well be because the people he accuses of politicizing it are no longer there. we threw the bums out. it is certainly inarguably true the people he accuses in his
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book, secretary rumsfeld, attorney general ashcroft are no longer in office. >> frances, you repeatedly said you were chairing this meeting and no one talked about politics. but if somebody was being motivated by political concerns they wouldn't actually talk about it. no one would be that stupid, right? >> perhaps that's right. i will tell you, here is the other thing. when you read tom ridge's account of that meeting it is very much tom carrying the banner. in fact, he uses language about pulling them back from the brink. tom knew going into that meeting that i was chairing that i agreed with him. he wasn't the only one who spoke up. the most eloquent argument to be made for not raising the terror alert level were made by secretary of state colin powell and fbi director bob mueller who was taking on his boss, john
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ashcroft, in a meeting with other cabinet officials. there was strong support in that meeting by a group of us not to raise it. ultimately, that was the view that prevailed. >> why would it be robert mueller taking on john ashcroft. if it is not politics, why isn't mueller expressing his differing view of the intelligence okay. >> no, no. it is okay. in fact, anderson, i would argue this is the sort of debate you want to encourage and provide a forum to make sure the president of the united states gets the best possible advice. i think that debate led to the best advice of the president who agreed and accepted it in not raising the terror alert level. we have to walk away from this seeing that politics absolutely played no role in that decision. >> paul begala, do you think this kind of accusation gets made on cable news fodder and disappears or do you think this goes further? these are serious, serious allegations. >> they are. and they come during the august recess. why do i point that out?
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if it goes further it will be because congress decided to investigate. the two people to watch are bennie thompson the chairman of the house homeland security committee. he put out a very strong statement today. he said the revelation in ridge's book is confirmation of what we suspected. the bush white house exploited american fears about future attacks. that is a strong statement. we have heard nothing from the senate chairman of the homeland security committee. that's joe lieberman. my guess is, i don't speak for lieberman, believe me, i'm not a big fan of his, it will be interesting to see if senator lieberman takes this. he wrote the bill that created the homeland security. i think those two guys will be important to watch. >> anderson, two points. one, if every time cabinet secretaries have a debate in a white house meeting we are going to open an investigation, this city is going to be closed for business whether it is a democrat or republican administration. second, i have to tell you, i
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find it unseemly, tom ridge is going to release this book on the eve of the eighth anniversary and take advantage of a time that is really still a raw moment in our history and a vulnerable time for the victims families of 9/11. i find that unseemly, frankly. >> george bush staged his political convention in new york city to coincide with 9/11. his first ad had pictures -- i'm sorry to get so upset but it bothers me. i lost friends on 9/11. he had pictures of bodies being carried away from ground zero. it's really obvious, i think, to folks that george w. bush did everything he could to politicize national security and the war on terror. >> paul, i lost a friend as well on 9/11. i understand your outrage. i don't think it makes it right for tom ridge to use it to sell books. >> you think that is what he is doing? you say he's using 9/11 to sell books? >> i don't think it is an accident, anderson, the book is coming out on the eve of the eighth anniversary. >> what does it say about president bush and his judgment? he asked us to trust secretary
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ridge with the lives of all of us, 300 million lives. first he was going to ask berry kerric. he's had a few little run-ins with the law. then he settled on tom ridge. i think it's really, frankly, not in the republicans' interest to be trashing a guy who earned the bronze star for valor in vietnam and a governor and the person george w. bush said we should trust with our lives. >> we've got to leave it there. we are out of time. i appreciate both of you being on tonight. who do you believe? join us at ac360.com. coming up next, breaking news about the economy. it is a stunner. another big hit for president obama. new numbers released tonight show a huge spike in the deficit and is much worse than anyone predicted. details on this breaking story ahead. she is fast, but is she a female? gender questions swirling around this gold medal runner. we'll also talk to a doctor why
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breaking news to tell you about, bad news to tell you about the economy. how much debt is piling up. hours after fed chairman ben bernanke pleased wall street saying is recovery is new, a white house official saying they expect $2 trillion in deficits over the next ten years. that's on top of the 7 trillion already projected. red meat for the president's critics.
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tom foreman has the breaking news. >> if this health care gets passed -- >> reporter: the new deficit news can only throw more gasoline in the firestorm over health care reform. the president's signature issue is exhibit "a" for those who say he is spending recklessly. a new poll shows more disapproval than support for how he's handling the issue. he blames the opposition. >> i would love to have more republicans engaged and involved in this process. i think early on a distinction was made by the republican leadership that said, look, let's not give him a victory. >> reporter: independent voters who were so hot for mr. obama's election have grown decidedly cooler, many because of the ballooning deficit and who some see as a massive spending spree. >> what are you doing? >> reporter: look at this. the northeast is the only part of the country where health care reform had broad support when we measured it recently.
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this is a democratic stronghold. the west it has 50% support and the rest of the country is against it, even though some of these states contain large percentages of uninsured families. the apparent contradiction is being driven by age, many of those states have lots of elderly people. craig gordon is with politico.com. >> they think about it. they talk about it. it is on their mind and they have not had a clear explanation of how the health reform overhaul would affect their lives. >> reporter: house speaker nancy pelosi says a government-backed health care public option is a must. >> there is no way i can pass a bill in the house of representatives without a public option. >> reporter: but fiscally conservative democrats have been warning for weeks that a deficit bomb could cripple their party in elections next fall. aware of their anxiety, majority leader steny hoyer says -- >> i'm for a public option but
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i'm for passing a bill. >> reporter: that's because the president's supporters insist health care reform is necessary to ultimately control the deficit. >> there is a saving in providing the basic treatment for everyone. >> reporter: but the latest deficit news one way or another will almost certainly intensify the fire from right, left and center. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> let's dig deeper with david frum, former george w. bush speechwriter, currently with the american enterprise institute and paul begala. the fact the deficit over the next ten years is $2 trillion bigger than we thought yesterday, isn't this is a serious blow to the president and health care reform? >> yes, frankly. for all the strum and drum of august of death panels. it is not death panels democrats should be worried about as political arguments. it's deaf sits. now i think the president will be able to make the case he inherited these deficits. he inarguably did.
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i think that will be an enormous problem for him. if you look at guts of some of these. the bill that passed through the health committee in the senate, one of the more liberal versions of this, it was scored by the congressional budget office at $600 billion. that is a lot of money, that is half of what some of the earlier versions cost and less than half of what the bush tax cuts cost. there is a way for president obama to win this argument on the deficit. he has to engage it if he wants to win it. >> david, will president obama make the argument that any president will be stuck with this deficit in a recession? do you think people are going to buy this? >> this president inherited a deficit, but he didn't inherit this deficit. this deficit he made. and he made it with his eyes open. he made it in the first months of his presidency when he decided to do this enormous stimulus package. the united states has had about
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the biggest stimulus in the world. rop -- relative to its economy. only china did a bigger one. they had the money in the bank. it didn't have to borrow. countries that did smaller stimulus, like canada, are comes out of the recession faster. of the world's ten biggest economies, i think only the united states, britain and italy will still be in recession. he sold the stimulus saying the recess would be less. now the debt and real and permanent. that's his legacy to the next presidency. >> i'm sorry. the one-year stimulus is not driving the ten-year structural deficit. it's just not. what is driving it are things like this, a war in iraq that will cost $1 trillion to $2 trillion, thinks a nobel peace prize winner. the bush expansion of entitlement. that is already $800 billion and will continue to grow. it's the structural things that mr. obama inherited that are driving this thing, not the
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one-year stimulus. >> the stimulus is not a one-year stimulus. but a three-year stimulus. it costs almost $800 billion. and it was all borrowed money, so there will be a compounding effect of the debt. in the interim budget repaid with the second half of the fiscal 2009 and 2010 year he massively ramped up the ongoing level of government expenditure all of which has interest paid on it. the interest compounds. he inherited some problems. i'm not denying that. he made new problems for himself on basis of false predictions of the economy. >> i'm sorry. i still have a balanced budget. it is bound in leather and my name is on it in gold. democrats balanced the budget. mr. bush gave us $1.3 trillion in tax cuts. 8 roo -- $800 billion in a medicare -- >> this deficit is so big as a result of the decisions made over the past few months. >> eight months of obama is bigger than eight years of bush?
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bush gave a lot in eight months. >> let paul finish his thought. >> mr. bush gave us three major drivers of the deficit. his tax cuts. which were $1.3 trillion. they continue to compound. second, a medicare prescription entitlement, the only entitlement in american history without a pay for into it. a war in iraq that he never once paid for. that could be $2 trillion. that's what's driving the deficit. >> the bush tax cuts expire in 2010 for better or worse. the war in iraq is winding down. these commitments made since january 20th, they are new, big and ongoing. and had they worked they might have made sense but they are not working. the united states is going to be slowest out biggest of the recession with the biggest stimulus package. >> we have to leave it there. paul begala, david frum, appreciate the conversation. thank you. >> thank you.
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>> quick program note. we are digging deeper on health care. david gergen, dr. sanjay gupta and others answering your questions about the various reform plans out there. it explains over the course of the hour what the debate is out there. extreme challenges. health care and your bottom line at the top of the next hour. a gender test for a top female runner. her amazing speed and her looks have many wondering if this young woman is, in fact, a man. her family speaks out and a gender specialist who joins us live. a new michael jackson raid. federal agents searching a beverly hills pharmacy. it's in the same building as jackson's dermatologist. what exactly were they looking for and what did they find? we'll tell you next, on the program.
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reporting a post 9/11 interrogation tactics that the cia conducted mock executions of suspected terrorists. according to "newsweek," one detainee was threatened with a gun and power drill during the course of cia interrogation. magazine sources also say the report details a mock execution staged in the room next to it, where a gunshot was fired to make the suspect believe another prisoner had been killed. fed chief ben bernanke saying prospects for a return to growth in the near term appear good. he warned any recovery would be likely slow with high unemployment. sales of existing homes rose 7.2% in july. it was the fourth straight monthly increase and the strongest month since august 2007. that took stocks to new highs, dow gaining 155, the nasdaq 9505. looking to afghanistan, president obama had nothing but praise for this week's presidential election there.
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>> we knew that the taliban would try to derail this election yet even in the face of this brutality, millions of afghans exercised the right to choose their leaders and determine their own destiny. and i watched the election i was struck by their courage in the face of intimidation and their dignity in the face of disorder. >> deadly disorder. 2 died in election day attacks. afghan officials will announce results on a piecemeal basis starting next tuesday. the government's highly popular cash for clunkers program runs out of gas this weekend. dealers have until 8:00 monday night to file final deals. it may be time for me to trade in that pinto. >> definitely. the clock is ticking. we have seen the heroes welcome a libyan terrorist is receiving in tripoli. the libyan dictator welcoming him with open arms.
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but it's worse, gadhafi's son says it is a trade deal between britain and libya. later, the runner who has to prove she is, in fact, a woman. race officials have ordered gender testing. why is it so hard to determine? some fascinating facts you probably don't know about what separates men from women. if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested.
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gulling, though, is that qaddafi's son said the release came because of trade deals. in all commercial contracts for oil and gas with britain, megrahi was always on the negotiating table. he issued a statement praising the british government, reaffirming his belief that this convicted bomber did not do it and would one day be proven innocent. britain sharply rejecting a deal. president obama calling the scene highly objectionable. his spokesman went further. >> i think the images that we saw in libya yesterday were outrageous and disgusting. we communicated with the libyan government and we continue to watch what they do in the days going forward. >> relatives of the 270 killed are planning to protest when qaddafi visits the u.n. joining us tonight is robert
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flynn, his brother was on that flight. do you believe the man who killed your brother was essentially released because of trade deals between britain and libya? >> i don't think it is that simple but would be naive otherwise. the united states and britain just got played again by moammar gadhafi. >> played how? >> played by the fact that i'm sure gadhafi's son assured everyone that we're going to be very quiet, we want him to die in peace at home. of course, that's not at all what happened. >> it seemed like president obama was indicating we communicated we don't want a hero's welcome and moments later he was getting a hero's welcome. >> we gave up leverage. we gave the guy back. you have a situation that they're registering disgust now. now is not the time they're registering disgust. i can't manage if the president of the united states and the prime minister of britain didn't want this guy released we couldn't have stopped it. >> jeff toobin last night on the program talking about compassionate release pointed out that what makes these pictures particularly galling received in open arms not just by qaddafi, but welcomed at the airport. the people are cheering, not for
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this guy, they don't really know this guy, they're cheering for what he did. >> exactly. they're celebrating what he did. remember, there's no remorse. he has never taken responsibility for what he did. >> qaddafi's son reiterated that they believe -- they claim he is innocent and that will one day be proven. >> here's the part that has frustrated all of us and has been tragic. why would you ever send the guy back who did the crime to the guys who ordered him to do it? it's the worst-case scenario. it celebrates the crime that killed 270 people. >> there is no way he could have brought down the airline himself. >> that's exactly right. in his conviction, it said clearly that he was working for the libyan intelligence. we tried to get to other people in the libyan government, even qaddafi. we failed. we had one guy in prison. that was taken away from us. we have this guy being celebrated for what he did. this was an act of war against the united states and the united kingdom.
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our response is to say you can have him back now because he may be sick. >> you lived half your life without your brother. he died at 21. you were 20. >> yes. there is this stupid term close closure, which anybody knows who lost, knows there's no such thing as closure. but this has to make it all the harder to go through your day. >> when it is done, if you think about it, it is a wound that got torn open by the fact that my brother's murderer was sent back to the country that ordered it. and today we have salt being poured into the wound, just making it worse. what bothers me the most is it is almost as if the obama administration and brown administration have committed gross negligence. now they're really upset that this guy is back in libya. well, they should have stopped it before then. >> they could have. >> yes. what does it say about how we approach terrorism going forward? a terrible irony. we have prisoners in guantanamo, which i'm against, that haven't been charged with anything. this guy is convicted of
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murdering 270 people and we send him home. >> brian, i appreciate you being on tonight. thank you. >> thank you. coming up next in the program, a strange story, is this runner, she, a he? a track superstar accused of lying about her sex. later the murdered swimsuit model, the search for her ex-husband intensifies. authorities reveal how breast implants helped authorities identify her body. we'll explain that in a moment.
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tonight a remarkably fast runner and stunning questions about her gender. simply put, is the fastest female runner on earth a man? this is the star athlete in question. an 18-year-old champion from south africa. she just won the gold medal in the women's 800 meter in berlin. it's not just her speed that has people talking, it's her sex, her masculine features. testing is being done but there is nothing easy or simple about it. gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: caster semenya is an easy winner. she is fast.
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she's overwhelming. she wiped out the field in the 800 meters but is she a she? her performance, physique and voice raised questions. >> with that comes rumors. i heard one that you were born a man. what do you have to say about stuff like that? >> i have no idea who said it. i don't know. i don't give a [ bleep ] about it. >> reporter: caster semenya pulled off the huge win at the world championships on wednesday. three weeks ago the south african received lots of attention after reporting a world best time at the african junior championships. now the 18-year-old is receiving scrutiny. track's governing body confirming her gender is being investigated. pierre weis is the general secretary of the international association of athletics federations. >> if at the end of this investigation it is proven that she is not a female we will withdraw her name for the results of the competition. >> reporter: caster semenya's family is outraged.
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her father, jacob, telling a newspaper, she is my little girl. i raised her and i have never doubted her gender. she is a woman and i can repeat that a million times. gender testing is extremely complicated but it happened in track and field. an indian runner failed a gender test and had her medal stripped. she reportedly showed a male chromosome. a sprinter of poland won two medals in the olympics but failed a gender test and was banned from professional sports. then there was polish-american runner stella walsh, after she died a post mortem showed she had female and male chromosomes as well as ambiguous genitalia. it's an unpleasant situation and the rules for determining gender are not always clear. >> i am not a doctor. i am a specialist. >> but the iaaf general secretary say there are experts on the case and in a matter of days or weeks we will know if caster semenya raised as a girl
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will be allowed to run as a woman. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> it is a fascinating story. her family never doubted her gender. why is the testing of her sex so hard to determine? dr. mattie deutsche joins us from san francisco. she's a transgender medical specialist. she joins us from san francisco. thanks for being with us. why is it so difficult to determine someone's gender in a case like this? >> determining gender is not something you can run one test. gender is -- excuse me, defined by no one thing. gender is a mixture of genetics and physiology which is a term for how the body works and the hormones that are present in the body as well as someone's gender identity. what gender they feel they are inside. >> very basically there are a lot of people who say, okay, well, the genitals should be able to be one factor that helps you determine. you say that is not conclusive. >> genitals are one of many
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factors that are involved in determining someone's gender. for example, the runner from india that they had cited, she has what we believe is androgen insensitivity syndrome, someone who has male chromosomes but their testosterone receptors do not work. they have testosterone but their body doesn't know that it's there. >> if you have xy chromosomes i thought that made you a man and if you have x xx you're a woman. but it is not that simple either. >> it is not that simple. it is much more complicated. the gene and the genitals and the hormones that are in your body and the identity in your mind have to be put into a mix together. in a lot of cases -- >> shouldn't racing officials already put up benchmarks? essentially they are now inva invading this person's privacy
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in the most public way possible. you would think race officials would have determined, all right, you need on the chromosome level you need this. on the hormone level you need this. it is amazing to me they are just now saying let's test and try to figure it out. >> i agree with you. i think if we are going to start invading people's privacy and questioning people's gender because they happen to be a high performer or a woman happens to be more masculine than what is typically expected we maybe should start testing everyone as routine. testing when someone enters a competition. again, like i said, because there are so many different characteristics that define one's gender, you can come away with a number of people and still not have a clear answer. >> they basically have to come up with their own benchmarks for athletic competition, their own definition of what a male is, what a female is and take it from there? >> they do but then that can get you into a corner as well
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because you will always find someone who does not meet any of your definitions. that is probably why this process is going to take so long. not because the tests are difficult or they're going to take a lot of time. it's most likely there will be several experts that will become involved from several disciplines. this is likely to be a test case moving forward. it's important that they cross all the ts and dot the is properly in this case. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. new information in the death of jasmine fiore. her breast implants led to her identification. heifer alleged killer, her former husband, a reality show reject, why he may be so tough to catch. the first family goes on vacation. the white house says leave sasha and malia alone. but will a hurricane get in the way?
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grisly new details in the murder of jasmine fiore. her body found in a suitcase, her fingers and teeth removed. apparently in an attempt to slow the investigation. the body was so disfigured they were forced to be identified by the serial number in her breast implants. a song she recorded in 2009 has
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surfaced online. ♪ tonight's "crime and punishment" report. new details on the international manhunt for fiore's alleged killer, ex-husband ryan jenkins. he is believed to be in canada u.s. marshals confirm the tv reality contest is a licensed pilot. he could essentially be anywhere. also confirmed, a $25,000 reward leading to his capture. joining us now is james allen fox a criminal justice professor at northeastern university. the details about this woman's fingers and teeth being removed was to hamper the investigation, make identification difficult. what does it say about someone who can do that? >> i think many murderers can and many murderers do. they take steps to evade apprehension. the attempt is to make it difficult to identify the victim much less the perpetrator. he didn't plan on the fact she
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could be identified by the breast implants, the serial number. most people wouldn't know that. >> if it is true that ryan jenkins committed this grisly murder, the idea that someone who had at one point loved someone else could remove their fingers and their teeth, it surprises even me. >> well, many people are capable of doing that. of course, it may be a crime of passion. indeed, what we have here is strangulation. hot tempered, not cold blooded. >> if it is a crime of passion the fact that afterward you then take these steps, what does that say? >> the passion and the anger and the rage only lasts so long as the victim is alive. once she's dead, at that stage, it's how do i get away with murder? some offenders will call the cops and say i lost my temper and i did it. but many will figure out a strategy, a scheme for trying to get away with murder.
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and, indeed, trying to obfuscate who the victim is, dicing the body up into pieces to try to hide it in a dumpster in a suitcase is just a means of trying to get away with murder. obviously, at that point the perpetrator is certainly cool and doing everything he can to try to evade the police. >> jenkins was arrested on domestic violence charges in june after he allegedly hit her and convicted of assaulting a former girlfriend in 2007. is past violent behavior is good indicator of future abuse? >> usually. not always. we find cases of men and women who kill their intimate partners and there is no history of abuse. typically there is an escalation of violence. someone who is trying to use violence to exert control. in the end a murder like this can be an act of control. someone deciding who, how
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and by what means and when the relationship will end. oftentimes if it is the case of if i can can't have you no one can and who are you to decide this relationship is over. i'll be the one to decide it and i'll be the one to decide how. >> it's so disturbing. professor fox, appreciate your time. thank you. still ahead, the obama's summer getaway. the first family readies for a week at the beach. the white house begs the press to give daughters sasha and malia privacy. we certainly will. will their martha's vineyard vacation be a washout? arlen specter, he brought the house down at a hometown comedy club next. it's our shot, tonight.
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white house plea for privacy as the first family prepares for a martha vineyard getaway. the obamas head to a popular vacation spot sunday for a week of r & r, despite the media frenzy that followed. robert gibbs practically begged reporters to keep sasha and malia off limits. another unwelcome guest, hurricane bill, though not expected to make landfall, the
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storm could dump 2 inches of rain on the vineyard. the island has a lot to offer rain or sunshine. dan lothian takes us up close. >> reporter: it's easy to see why martha's vineyard is such a big draw. the beaches, the boats, the vintage carousel, but before you attach the label enclave of the rich and famous, long time summer resident and harvard professor charles ogletree says take a look around. >> it really is a rare place where you see people who are unemployed and who are ceos, you see people who are wealthy and poor and there is no pretension here. people are comfortable. >> reporter: even if sitting presidents keep dropping in. first ulysess grant and the clintons and now the obamas. they're planning to stretch out on this 28 1/2 acre farm. >> it is flattering and impressive that president obama and his family are coming. >> reporter: island historians say mr. obama's presence carries more weight because of the
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african-american heritage on martha's vineyard. >> there have been african-americans on the island since at least the 18th century. >> i think in terms of this first family coming to the island, it's important. this shot, i think is really quite telling. >> reporter: the pictures are in black and white at the museum. some were slaves who when freed made a home here. later, other blacks came in search of good jobs. >> you could get on a ship, a whaling ship. in the 19th century you had multiethnic and multiracial whaling vessels. >> reporter: african-americans began to settle in oak bluff, an african-american community that didn't shut the door. >> this was a place that didn't have the signs, didn't have the barriers to integration. >> reporter: it's a history largely hidden behind the island's pristine beauty and high-profile presidential visits. historian kerry tankard is trying to change that.
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she co-founded the african-american heritage trail marks 22 sites honoring people of color. >> the headstones and things. you can put your hands on it. it is a feeling you can't describe. we just want them to know that we were here. >> reporter: while the president may be hoping to simply spend quiet time relaxing with family and friends, his visit is seen as another chapter in this island's deep history. dan lothian, cnn, martha's vineyard. >> nice assignment for dan. i would have liked that. senator arlen specter at home in a comedy club as on capitol hill. first gary tuchman with a "360" bulletin. gary? dramatic development in the michael jackson investigation. agents for the drug enforcement administration today raided the mikey fine pharmacy in beverly hills. the pharmacy sued jackson in 2007 claiming jackson owed over $100,000 in prescription drugs. jackson's funeral is postponed.
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until september 3rd, five days after the pop star's birthday. no reason given for the delay. the only u.s. army officer convicted for the massacre says he feels remorse. >> the aspca is speaking out about quarterback michael vick's "60 minutes" interview. in a statement, the group's ceo says they turned down a request from vick's public relations team to help restore his image after his dogfighting sentence. the stated reason, unique knowledge we had of his indescribable and barbaric acts of animal cruelty. michael vick is playing for the philadelphia eagles. we have a special presentation coming up. we'll get beyond the shouting of health care reform. and bring you the facts to make up if it is right for the country and you. that's the top of the hour. coming up in this hour, arlen specter, standup comic? decide for yourself when we continue.
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bob, how do you feel? he said i feel like a teenager. problem is, i can't find one. >> what was that last one? >> i feel like a teenager but i can't find one. >> a little crude. i'm shocked. >> last week i covered one of his town hall hearings. it is a fight he wasn't nearly as funny in front of the audience. >> not as many people laughing there. this is not the senator's first time in the standup circuit. we're told he finished second in a washington, d.c. standup comedy contest. no word on who beat him for the top spot. we'll try to figure that it. gary, thanks for sitting in. have a great weekend. check us out on ac360.com. at the top of the hour, no shouting, no jargon, no canned talking points, a complete look at health care reform means to you. the plans on the table, what they cover, what they cost.
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