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the lou dobbs show. go to loudobbs.com to find local listings for the lou dobbs show on the radio. sign up for lou's podcast also at loudobbs.com. and follow lou at lou dobbs news on twitter.com. thanks for being with us to night. for all of us here, thanks for watching. good night from new york. next, campbell brown. tonight, hear the questions we want answered -- what really happened to j.c. dugar. she was kidnapped 18 years ago and showed up to day. a convicted rapist and his wife behind bars tonight. where was j.c. for almost two decades? and how can she possibly recover from the trauma? >> she was in good health. but living in a backyard for the past 18 years. it's going to take its toll. >> the latest the investigation of this unbelievable case. tropical storm will it become a hurricane this
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weekend? we have answers. plus, a funny thing happened to this standup comic. she's half black, half swedish and she is being sued by her jewish mother-in-law for jokes like this -- >> i walked in. i'm trying to be real polite. i said thank so much for having me. elliott put my pocketbook away. >> but who will get the last laugh in court? also the devil wears prada, the most feared woman in fashion, vogue's editor. >> also the girls always look like that. look at the way they're dressed. it's always the same. and farewell to ted kennedy. all the latest details on the extraordinary final procession through boston and plans for the senator's funeral this weekend.
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hi, everybody. those are our big questions tonight. we're going to start as we always do with the "mash-up." it's the stories making an impact now. we're watching it all so you don't have to. we begin tonight with breaking news out of california. a girl kidnapped more than 18 years ago now safe at home. this is an unbelievable story. the stepfather says it's like winning the lat yotto now that daughter has been found. >> j.c. was 11 years old when she was abducted. >> she's 29 years old and may have had two children by her abductor. >> police arrested the registered sex offender and his wife on kidnapping, child molestation and conspiracy charges. >> he was keeping j.c. and their children hidden in what police call a backyard within a yard. sheds and buildings where j.c. and her children lived shielded
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from view by the outside world. >> she was in good health. but living in a backyard for the past 18 years does take its toll. >> so many unanswered questions. stay with us. we're going to have breaking details on the investigation. plus, you'll hear tonight from ed smart, from his daughter elizabeth. you'll remember elizabeth was kidnapped at the age of 14. she was held for nine months before finally being reunited with her parents. in boston, an outpouring of emotion for senator ted kennedy. you're looking right now at live pictures. this is from inside the john f. kennedy presidential library. thousands of people waiting in line for a chance to file past the senator's coffin, capping off an emotional journey that began earlier today. >> generations of kennedys left their compound along with a man they described as the center of their family and joyous light in their lives. after a private mass, the motorcade began a 70-mile
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journey winding past landmarks that had special meaning throughout the senator's life. >> boston's mayor rang the bells 47 times. one for each year kennedy served in the senate. >> that motorcade has now arrived at the john f. kennedy memorial library and museum. there you see the family. >> and behind us right now in line, caroline kennedy and her family, robert f. kennedy jr., membersst kennedy family here to greet those who have come to pay respects to ted kennedy. >> senator kennedy to be buried at arlington national cemetery on saturday. that morning his funeral including an obituary from president obama. tomorrow, kennedy will lie in repose at 7:00 p.m. a memorial service, joe biden and senator john mccain among the speakers. join me, wolf blitzer, john king
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for live coverage. that will happen right here on cnn. kennedy coverage, wherever you turn today, lots of pomp, boldfaced names. but still the most poin yent reflections coming from average americans telling how the legendary senator touched their lives with small acts of kindness. >> gloria gomez holds something dear to her, a letter senator edward kennedy wrote her weeks before his death. >> july 31st. i received it on august 7. >> the letter was a response after she wrote kennedy, thanking him for an act of kindness about his family decades ago. abc news reporter john carl was driving with his wife and two young daughters in 2002 when they were in a terrible crash, surviving but hospitalized and shaken. >> the very first call that i got from somebody was not part of my immediate family. it was a call from ted kennedy. >> lori stanford was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 6. she stayed in touch with lauren over the years with letters and
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phone calls. >> lauren this is ted kennedy. >> i was home on leave from walter reed. i was able to go home. now and then a story about me would be in the newspaper and he might, you know, clip it out and send it to me in the mail along with a nice letter. >> that final reflection there from peter dame on. he is an army mechanic that lost both arms in iraq. kennedy checked in on him regularly, even sending football tickets as a christmas present. we're going to turn now to pakistan and growing violence on the afghan border. today, a deadly suicide attack claiming at least 21 lives. >> now the attack came in the early evening hours of thursday when people were sitting down to breakfast. we're told that a young boy between the ages of 15 and 20 walked into the barracks carrying two jugs of water. he put the water down and then exploded his suicide vest. >> this is the second border attack in as many days. yesterday a nato truck heading
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to afghanistan was blown up on that very same road. in philadelphia tonight, a standing ovation for michael vick as he took to the field in his first nfl game since 2006. long day for vick. it began in a virginia bankruptcy court. >> he had to convince the judge in virginia that he has a plan to pay back all the creditors. and he did convince the judge, a bankruptcy judge approved the plan to repay more than $20 million on the condition he hires a personal financial planner. after the proceedings, he headed back to philadelphia for tonight's preseason game. >> vick seeming pretty serious in his pregame warmup. the game is on going. so the review is still out. in the u.k., a homecoming for a young hero of the high seas. >> congratulations to michael pearl on his record breaking single-handed circumnavigation. >> he waited nine months for this moment. and finally it comes.
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confirmation from the royal navy that he's the youngest person ever to circumnavigate the globe. he has crossed 30,000 miles. the 17-year-old has battled technical problems, gale force winds, and 50-foot waves to become a world record breaker. he is due to sail his 56 foot yacht into portsmouth saturday. it's three years since he became the youngest person to cross the atlantic. with another record to his name, it's found to be a hero's welcome. >> now around the world sailing apparently all the rage with kids these days. in holland, kids are seeking custody of this 13-year-old girl before she embarks on her own solo adventure. the girl's parents are fine with their daughter's dream. the dutch government says it's just too dangerous. and now daily dose of crazy, a bizarre appearance by anne
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heche that is going viral. she was on the late show last night unloading on her ex-husband. watch this. >> oh, gosh. i mean can -- i don't know -- can you say lazy ass on tv? no. no. he was coaching soccer. right about now. but it's funny. you can't quite let go of the ex. i can't even get a divorce. like i can't -- like i'm divorced but now he wants me to watch him run around in his white shorts playing soccer. you know, he has to coach the 7-year-old. it's like i divorced you, i don't want to see you on saturday. >> what does he do for a living? >> dave? he goes out to the mail box and he opens up the little mail box door and goes i got a check from ann. oh, my gosh, i got a check from ann! >> today she tells us that he
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works in real estate. he says he is disturbed that heche is taking out her personal frustration on the father of her child on national television. ouch. and that brings us to the punch line. this is courtesy of conan o'brien. his targets, our vacationing president. take a look. >> president's on sahratian. we read about it every day. here's the rumor. latest rumor is that president obama is going to have dinner on martha's vineyard with oprah winfrey. that's what they're saying. that's right. the most powerful person in the free world is going to have dinner with president obama. >> conan o'brien, everybody, that is the "match-up." tonight's big question, what really happened to the girl who was kidnapped 18 years ago and just showed up alive? we're going to hear from police and her stepfather who actually saw her get kidnapped in 1991. this is an unbelievable story with still many unanswered
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and the girls spent most of their lives. there was a vehicle hid nent backyard that matched the vehicle originally described at the time of the abduction. the tents and outbuildings in the backyard were placed in strategic arrangement to inhibit outside viewing and isolate the victims from outside contact. there was one shed entirely soun proofed. it was only open from the outside. at the end of the backyard there is a large fence, six foot fence, tall trees all along that fence. a dishwasher, garbage can, other thinged backed up against that fence. the tarp that hangs over the fence. you have to pull the tarp aside and walk through. there is nothing unusual that would cause you to question that. you can't see over the fence with the shrubbery and trees. you can't see the structures. the structures are no more than 6 foot high. one of them was maybe 10 by 10, 6 foot high. the other one was very much the same and two smaller tents. you can't see from either add joining prortd. it's an unusual set of circumstances.
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she was in good health. but living in a backyard for the past 18 years does take its toll. she was in good health. none of the children ever gone to school. they never been to a doctor. they were kept in complete isolation in this compound if you will at the rear of the house. >> and in just a bit, we'll hear from kidnap victim elizabeth smart and her father ed. but we're going to start with our randy kay who is doing reporting on this for us in los angeles tonight. randy, this is nothing short of a miracle that j.c. was found. explain to us all exactly how this unfolded. >> reporter: campbell, on tuesday of this week, one of the suspects in this case, a convicted sex offender out on parole, showed up near the campus of uc berkeley with some familiar flets and two young children. apparently a police officer there started to question him because he had these pamphlets and wanted to know what he was doing. asked him for some identification. enedded up running a background check and realized he was a convicted sex offender and asked him to come back and meet with the parole officer the next day. so yesterday, wednesday, he did
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that. he brought along with him the two young children, his wife who is also now a suspect in this case, and a woman who he calls elisa. elisa turned out to be j.c. dugard as they found out after questioning. the couple was arrested and j.c. told police who she was and she was identified and she spoke with her mother. and that is where they -- her mother is there right now. they're all together. they held that press conference today. and we go on from there. >> randy, the sheriff's office reporting that j.c. gave birth to two children while she was kidnapped. what do we know about these kids? >> reporter: this is so disturbing, campbell. because she really, when you look at the ages of these two girls, 11 and 15, she gave birth to one of them because she's now 29, she gave birth to one of them when she was just 14 years old. so two girls having never gone to school. they lived in this shed, a sound proof shed as you mentioned behind this tarp within this backyard within the backyard,
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this very secret backyard. so you have these two girls who have never gone to see a doctor. they have never gone to school and really no contact with the outside world. they have spent all of their time in this sound proo shed. >> randy this is so all -- stunning. it's going to take so much time, i know, for this family to recover. you did speak with j.c.'s stepfather today. he has to be going through so many different emotions the but presumably overjoyed. what did he tell you? >> he's going through some relief, actually. he was once really considered a bit of a suspect as a stepfather. they looked at him. they took a bunch of lie detector tests. so he's really been sort of living under that shadow for quite some time. but he did say that the -- j.c. having gone missing really took a toll on their marriage. they're now separated. they're not divorced yet. but they're separated. he got a call and they said to him, they found j.c.
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and then he paused. she went on to say she's alive. and the way he described it through some tears, he said that they sat there and they cried for ten minutes. and then they talked for a little bit after that. but we chatted a little bit on his front lawn today. here's what he had to say. >> i'm just so happy. i'm more curious about who did this and some of the other questions rather than that part. >> where is this emotion coming from? >> years locked up? they were shell shocked. >> yeah, so that is really something. i will tell you, campbell, on the way up to see her daughter, j.c.'s mom brought with her her other daughter she had with carl, j.c.'s stepfather. and this will be the first time that they're meeting because her -- j.c.'s sister was just 1 1/2 when she went missing. so they're really going to get
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to know each other for the first time. >> i cannot imagine what this mother is feeling with any of them. >> randy, thanks very much. so how does this woman who was kidnapped so many years ago recover from something like this? and what about the two children that have been raised as hostages, their father a rapist? and why in the world did his wife go along with all this? we're looking for answers to night. plus elizabeth smart, you may remember her, she was kidnapped for nine months before she got away. you'll hear from her and her father. >> i think that people try to say why didn't she get away? why didn't she do this and that? to me, i just don't think that is anyone's business in trying to be judgmental over her and the most important thing is for her to reconnect with life and to move forward and leave what happened with her behind.
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tlnchts is breaking news, at stonishing story about kidnapped victim j.c. dugars, she is found after 18 years. 18 years. so tonight authorities she said was kept prisoner in the backyard of a home along with the two girls she had allegedly fathered by one of her abductors. the nightmare began in june of 1991. that is when her mother made this plea. >> you may like her. we love her, too. and it's time she comes home to her family, her sister has been
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asking for her. and she needs to be with us. >> our dan simon is outside of the suspect's home in antioch, california. also joining us right now from charlotte, north carolina, criminal profiler pat brown. and in kansas city, forensic psychologist brian russell is with us now. dan, i know you're outside the home. give us a sense for what that neighborhood is like. police described, of course, this elaborate hidden backyard. is there any sense for that where you're standing? can you get a feel for it? >> you know, you can't see the backyard, campbell. but i can tell that you authorities including agents from the fbi still inside the home searching, we've seen some aerial video of the backyard. basically what -- >> hold on. >> dan, just for a second. i'm going to show people. we have the aerial pictures why you're talking about it. can you take a look there. these are the aerial pictures go. ahead, dan. >> yeah. kind of looks like a series of tents sort inform the backyard.
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some blue tarp like structures, we're told. we saw one of those structures, you could lock it from the outside and it was there in the backyard according to authorities where the victim lives with her two children. i should tell that you the vehicle that was allegedly used in the abduction 18 years ago still here at the house and is about to be removed. we're told it looked like a gray sedan, something of that nature. >> stand by there, dan. want to go to brian now. brian, what we're hearing from police is j.c. was in good physical condition. i can not even imagine -- i mean what about him emotionally? how do you even begin helping somebody? >> campbell, this case is full of emotions for everyone involved and their loved ones and even our viewers. there's been the horror of what happened to this girl. there is the elation she was recovered alive. there is angry that this guy was
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out -- it was very difficult to make an assessment or prognosis. but what i can tell you is there will be a lot of people on tv in the day as head who will say she'll never recover any semblance of normalcy. i'm not willing to go there. i think this case is about hope. it's about hope for all the people throughout watching us tonight who have someone who is missing. you have to hold out hope. and i also hold out hope that with lots of help weathering the storm of emotions she's going to be wrapped up in for quite -- for the foreseeable future really, she will get through it and have some semblance of a normal life still possible. you know, you do hear, brian, that the term stockholm syndrome thrown around a lot. >> yes. >> do you think that's what's going on here? i mean it sounds like she never had a chance to escape. >> well, it's possible. you hear a lot of people in the next few days talking about stockholm on television. stockholm syndrome being the phenomenon when somebody starts to identify with and have an he
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fin ti for their captors. that's one possible explanation. i can tell you, campbell, that is very, very, very rare. elizabeth smart, patty hufrt are the cases talked about the most in the case of stockholm syndrome. i think what is more likely is something called learned helplessness or accommodation. somebody does eventually give up all hope of getting out of the situation to the point that they just sort of make the best of it. and you got to remember duress also. she wasn't with these folks very long, campbell before she was pregnant haand had a child. she didn't have just herself to think b she had kids to think about for most of this time. >> pat, the kidnapper, from what we know, wasn't acting alone. he did it with his wife. how do you explain what was going on in their minds? >> well, there is always a little sick spouse to go along with these situations. we look at the austrian guy. he kept his own daughter in prison in his little jail cell down there in his house. his wife also cooperated. and she claimed she doesn't know anything. but she had actually known
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something. you usually find these two people do have somebody to help them, somebody to help them kidnap. and one of the reasons women do these things is, first of all, they're sick themselves. but they get tired of the demand of that husband and they're told, you know, if you help me out, you don't have to struggle so much. you don't have to suffer so much with all the things i want to do with you. you help me get a sex slave, i'll relieve you of the duties. she says that is a great idea. she goes along it with. we're talking about a double psychopath, a horrible couple put together. she's going to go with the defense she had stockholm syndrome. she is a psychopath as well. both of those people need to be put away forever. they'll find a really small cell for them. >> that is my question, pat s there any -- i don't believe there is any rehabilitation for a sex offender. but is there any chance for he or his wife? >> absolutely not. who cares? i mean, you know, one of the things, is he was a sex offender. people wanted to give him that chance before. and what they did was they took away this girl's life. they took away the two children she had. they destroyed their lives.
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hopefully they'll be able to survive and go on. but for this one guy we didn't want to put him in a cell, he put three other people in a cell that are total innocent victims. i think that's horrific. we really need to ratchet up the sex offender"dws. >> all right. my thanks to all of you. we're going to move on from there. tonight's big question when we come back is how does this woman who was kidnapped so many years ago return to her family, return to normal life? can she after the trauma? you're going to hear from elizabeth smart who was also kidnapped then reunited with her parents. >> spent some time reconnecting. and i don't know -- i -- 11 years is such a long period of time. but maybe if it's possible to think back and think of things that she used to enjoy being with her family and maybe going out and doing them again and finding new thing shez would want to do with her family. carol, when you replaced casual friday with nordic tuesday, was it really for fun, or to save money on heat? why? don't you think nordic tuesday is fun?
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an 11-year-old girl kidnapped in 1991 forced to live in a backyard shed and discovered alive only yesterday. jaycee duguard was reunited with her family but was forced to give birth to two of the suspect's children here. another kidnapped victim, elizabeth smart who you will remember was held for nine months sat down for an exclusive interview with our anderson cooper for tonight's "ac 360." she offered advice for jaycee going forward. >> i would tell her to just relax and enjoy her family and spend some time reconnecting and -- i don't know. 11 years is such a long period of time. but maybe if it's possible to think back and think of things that she used to enjoy being with her family and maybe going out and doing them again and finding new things she would want to do with her family.
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continuing on withier life and not letting like this horrible event just take over and consume the rest of your life because you only have one life. and it's a beautiful world out there. and there are so many things to learn and to see and to grow. and i would encourage her to find, you know, different paths in life and continually push forward and learn more and reach more for them and not to look behind. because there's a lot out there. >> our gig bbig question, how d someone recover from such a trauma? elizabeth smart snows something about that. he is with us from salt lake city tonight. ed, you lived through this day with elizabeth. give us a sense based on your own experience what jaycee as family is going through right now. >> well, you know, i think it's the most wonderful thing you could hope for just with that
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nightmare coming to an end, this miracle happening for their family. and i know it's complicated with the number of issues. but to have that come to an end, the not knowing is the worst thing. and so many of the people out there, so many of my friends that are out there still waiting to see their child come back home. this certainly gives them great hope and we're so happy for the duguards and jaycee that had a this has come to an end. hear one more dcase being resolved and one more family being reunited, i just -- i'm just thrilled to death for them. >> ed, how does the healing process begin? i mean what were those first few days like when elizabeth came home? how do you begin those difficult conversations to try to bridge that gap after so long? >> well, there are so many concerns. you wonder what your child has
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been through. you know, what are the issues that you're going to have to deal with in the future? how do you best help your child, most importantly? and i think lois and i both felt that making sure she knew that she was loved, she had the support, that her family and extended family were back there ready to do anything for her and that the day we're not being judgmental. but she just was put into this situation. she did not choose to be in this situation. regardless of the stockholm syndrome or anything, people get to a point where they just do what they have to to actuasurvi. i know elizabeth did that. and, you know, she's home today. and she's moving on with her life. so i hope that's the way things work out for jaycee and, you know, having these two children, they know there is a better life out there than what they existed
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in. and that they can also move forward with her. >> ed, the media are swarming. as you well know. how do you -- how did you protect elizabeth once she came back home? >> well, you know, initially we did not have her out at all. we didn't have her in the public's eye for a period of time. i think that, you know, there is one way from the police station. but we really tried to let her, you know, come to terms with what she wanted to do and how we could reconnect with her before, you know, she stepped out into the public. and, you know, friends and family are so important. and certainly family where she hadn't had any for 18 years, this is going to be so important for her to have. the feelings of love and feelings that she has support and people that care for her. and certainly we felt very blessed with the prayers and the, you know, the love, the
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outpouring. i will never forget it. this is one thing that lois said. our living room was covered with flowers. and there -- i mean it was just the most amazing sight that you've ever seen. the whole thing was jam packed. and, you know, there were boxes getting in the way and doing this and that. and lois said, no, i want elizabeth to know how many people loved her and cared about her and wanted her home. and that's what jaycee needs to know. you know, in all of the trauma and all of the issues that she has to face, knowing she is loved and that it's okay and that, you know, she's going to have a life after this 18 years is what's so important to her. >> ed, i know the family, i'm sure, will appreciate your advice. you're one of the few people, really, on the plan whoet they can probably relate to right
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now. we thank you so much for your time tonight. and sharing some of your thoughts and insights with us. we appreciate it, ed. >> thank you, campbell. and we want everybody to stay tuned. ed and elizabeth smart are going to joib and n anderson tonight. and for the second week in a row, the east coast keeping a close eye on tropical storm danny. we have the latest tracking for you when we come back. s no way . sir, have you been drinking tonight? if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested. that can take so much out of you. i feel like i have to wind myself up just to get out of bed. then...well... i have to keep winding myself up to deal with the sadness, the loss of interest, the trouble concentrating, the lack of energy. if depression is taking so much out of you,
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now we want to take a look at some other stories tonight. hi, mike. you mentioned it, tropical storm danny strengthened slightly today. residents from carolina to new england welcome advised to keep an eye on the storm. danny is expected to pick up speed and head north tomorrow. we'll be watching. federal investigators say they're worried about the safety of the skies over new york's hubs and rivers. this in the wake of a crash that killed nine people earlier this month. the ntsb says air traffic rules need to be rewritten so helicopters and private planes don't fly at the same altitude. also a controller should warn the pie lot of a small plane that there was a sight seeing helicopter in its path. the navy says somali pirates fired on but missed one of its helicopters today. the chopper making a flight over a hijacked ship off the somali coast. there were no injuries. pirate captured the ship and crew back in april. and microsoft issued a mea culpa. they took this photo of three
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business people, one asian, one black, and one white. and they altered it placing a white man's head on the black man's body. the photo appeared on the polish website. they also noticed the man's laptop is logo airbrushed. back to you. mike, thanks very much. we would like droekt to cor error in a graphic last year. there was a map that labelled kurdistan wrongly suggested there was a country of that name. iraq, iowa ran and turkey and large numbers of kurds live in all states. there is no state of kurdistan. our apology. and this is no joke, a stand up comic is being sued by her mother-in-law for telling mother-in-law jokes. watch this. >> with the first baby the doctor said to me was it a pain, call us and give us a pain blocker.
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you have heard the one about the comedian whose act is about her mother-in-law. now she is being sued by, you guessed it, her mother-in-law. it sounds like a joke but it isn't. there is racial and religious tension is involved here. here's some of the jokes that started the trouble. >> a black woman with a jewish mother. yeah, you know the only thing we have in common is that we don't want to get our hair wet. hey! >> now in realize that there is a different background. african-american, black, whatever you call yourselves these days. seriously, i don't want to be named something that is difficult to pronounce. in my mind, i'm thinking of a
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name short but delicious like goldie. now i met rougy for the first time. i walked in. i'm trying to be real polite. i said ruthy, thank you for having me. she said the pleasure is all mine, have a seat. elliott, put my pocketbook away. >> and joining me right now is the comic. welcome you to. it's good to have you here. >> thank you. >> you are half black and half swedish catholic. you converted to judaism. you keep a kosher home, right? >> right. >> and all of that has provided fodder for a lot of the jokes as we just saw. but did you ever think that your family would really take offense to this? >> absolutely not. considering the fact that i used my other side of the family as well, fodder for material. >> so this is total surprise? >> this is a shock. >> you've been with your husband for 15 years. what was your relationship with your mother-in-law like before this?
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>> well, it was always -- i wasn't a perfect daughter-in-law. i know. that i wasn't what they had in mind. campbell brown is somebody they had you in mind. they would have loved to see you at the table. they didn't expect sunda croonquist to take over. >> did that he volume snf. >> sure. we had a relationship. i've been doing the jokes for years. and they're not -- they're family oriented jokes, actually. she says that you portray her as a racist. and what do i say about everybody else in my act? i mean it's an act. and that's not necessarily being a racist when i say i put my pocketbook away. my mother used to say. that a lot of grandmothers say. that. >> it's a joke, right? >> it's a joke. >> and it's intended as a joke. >> exactly. >> you have explained that to her? have you been able to -- >>, no we haven't been able to speak. and legally i can't be in contact with her. >> your husband, he is a lawyer.
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and his law firm is representing you in a legal battle with his mother. i mean this -- you know, there are huge issues here for him, i'm guessing. >> of course. can you imagine how embarrassing when you get back to the firm he has to face these people and they know that his wife is being sued business i had mother. >> how is your family dealing with this? >> it is very, very -- i sthed many times. there were very dark moments. i had very dark moments. in my world and in my life, i can't begin to think of people in hollywood at the laugh factory who would know who these characters are. >> but you have been specific and just your -- it was your sister-in-law, her husband, they're also upset about the way you portrayed them. you say you identified them by name and revealed where they work, live that, kind of thing. and it's who cares? does anybody care? is anybody going there to see them? does anyone care? does anybody really care? no. but now they do. and it's not my fault.
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so now everybody knows. >> so why not just drop them from the routine? >> why not let them drop everything? because that's my act. and it's like me asking you why don't you stop doing this, campbell. sing. i want you to stand up here and sing. >> but you're a funny talented woman. you could certainly joke about other things. >> of course i k but my family is part of my act. and when you have a black and jewish family, that is fodder for material. that is gold. and you're not throwing that away. >> so do you think this can be resolved peacefully? i read it goes before a judge september 8th. >> i am a nervous wreck. i don't know what's going to happen. i just don't know what's going to happen. and i don't -- i do know this. it's strengthened our family. we had a really bad time for a moment, my husband and i. really bad time. i'm like, you better call your mother. this is the first thing that came to mind. you better talk to her this is crazy. because the way it came to my attention is i was going for a job, you know, an audition. and someone had googled me.
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i came up in a legal section stating that i was, you know, impending litigation for slander assault and libel. and that's terrible. so nobody ever looked at that end. nobody ever said, my god, look what we did to sunda. it's not funny. you know? i mean it's not -- >> for a comedian this is not a fine position to be in. >> right if, i google you and see you were up for charges like that, i would say i, don't want to work with her. so that is business. and it's just business. and that's inappropriate. >> and, again, that was sunda croonquist being sued by her mother-in-law. you may have been scared away from the single best way of making money for your retirement. we'll tell what you you don't have to be scared anymore when we come back.
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a year ago you were jolted when you opened your 401-k statement. you have looked at it again lately? you should. you might be surprised. you have ryan mack, financial adviser and president of optimum capital management here. there is good news. tell us. >> there is definitely good news. i think they look like their statements are saying a joke. 46% from the lows of march 9th in the s&p 500 and the dow jones. up 51% from the march 9th lows. so we're definitely seeing good results and the market is recovering again. >> what we do know that last year at least a lot of people disengaged and just got out. what do they do now? >> with the 401(k), there is a lot of strategies you have to implement. we don't want to have knee jerk reactions. 2003, the market was low.
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2007 it was high. now it was low in 2009. so we want to make sure we have a dollar cost investment strategy that is right and asset allocation is appropriate for our age level f you're 25 years old and your asset allocation is 10% stocks and 90% bonds, you may want to take on more risk so you have time to deal with the ebbs and flows. >> but if you're 56 -- >> you have 90% bonds and 10% bonds, you may want to take a look. at the end of the day, these are thing wez have to do. don't make knee jerk reactions. look at what plan vuchlt take advantage of the rollover iras you have and enter an ira if you leave your job. make sure they're in place. >> all right. at least starting to look up a little bit. ryan mack for us to night. thanks very much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and for more on financial awareness and security plus ways to find the perfect portfolio, answer seven simple questions at
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you're looking at a live picture, an aerial shot of the backyard in antioch, california, where jaycee duguard, this young girl who has been reunited with her family after 18 years this is where she was held, where she lived with her two children, all of this time. and randy kay has been tracking this story for us. and what we have learned is that one of the suspects arrested in the kidnapping of this little girl back in 1991 has just spoken out in a jailhouse interview. randy is in los angeles with more. what do we know? >> reporter: this is a phone interview with our affiliate krca. and this is the strangest interview. i was just reading a transcription of it. it's really about -- he talked about how this is really about
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humanity and that the real truth about this case will come out and whether or not he -- seems to be almost working with jaycee duguard. he keeps saying that he and jaycee will work with this and this is a moment of beautiful things. he talked about the children that he fathered with her, the two children, one 11 years old, one 15 years old. and he says the youngest one was born from that moment things turned around. he talks a lot about turning life around and how the federal government will understand and that what we're really going to see here when everything comes out, campbell, is a very heart warming, powerful story. he seems to think that he turned somebody's life around here, possibly jaycee's. we're not sure. but it's a very, very interesting interview from the jailhouse. as you know, he's a convicted sex offender. he was out on parole. he served time for kidnapping and rape in the state of nevada. and he supposedly, according to the authorities, admitted at the
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police station yesterday that he is the one along with his wife nancy who took jaycee from just nearby her bus stop back in june of 1991. she was just about to get on her bus. and he says he took her and he says that he fathered these two children with her. campbell. according to authorities. >> so he's clearly a complete psychopath here, randy. i know we'll be learning a lot more about him in the days ahead. as far as you know, the family, though, has been reunited at this point, right? jaycee is with her mother? they've actually physically been able to reach each other? >> yes. from what i understand, her mom was flying to meet where they couldturned herself in in northern california and along with her sister. so this will be really interesting for them to get together. i spoke with the stepfather today. he is also looking forward to seeing her. he was in the driveway when n
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