anything like this in the future. >> larry: we all hope so. wish you the best, chris. >> thank you for having me. >> larry: thank you. thanks, joyce. thanks, joyce. thanks, mark. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >r ap and you j entertainer chris brown about tr the nigp the night girlfriegirlfriend rihanna. tonight you'll meet a woman who was abused for six years at the hands of her own husband. she's breaking her silence in the hopes of stopping a violent and disturbing trend in the african-american community. more on that. plus, the case everyone is following in california. what is life like now for jaycee dugard and her two daughters? we'll spoke with the reporter who got special access to the dugard family earlier this week. and more on her alleged captor phillip garrido. what should happen to him? a convicted sex offender joins us to talk about his own recovery and a heavily debated solution, castration. a very good evening to you. i'm richard lui, in for don lemon, who is off this night. we begin with a developing story

in south georgia. the man who called 911 last weekend to report his family had been killed has now been charged with eight counts of first-degree murder. a 3-year-old critically injured in the savage attack continues to fight for his life. cnn's sean callebs is in brunswick, georgia where funerals were held today for seven of those victims. >> reporter: loved ones are saying good-bye to eight people brutally killed in a mobile home in the small georgia coastal town of brunswick. family members told me they were floored when authorities told them 22-year-old guy heinze jr. had been charged with all eight murders. he stands accused of killing his own father, five other relatives and two family friends. the killings have shocked this region. >> it's the most heinous crime we've ever had in the community. >> reporter: a week ago, guy heinze jr., the man now charged in the killings, made this frantic 911 call after he claimed he discovered the bodies. >> my whole family's dead. >> reporter: something wasn't right. and after police arrived, they

charged heinze with possession of drugs, obstruction of justice, and tampering with evidence for allegedly taking a shotgun from the mobile home and hiding it in a car. at the time police said he was not a suspect. two days later his attorney, ron harrison, said his client is not a killer. >> mr. heinze denies his involvement in the murders. >> has he been cooperating? >> he has been cooperating and will continue to cooperate. >> reporter: wednesday a judge sent heinze's bond at $20,000. and then friday heinze walked out of the county jail, only to be arrested two hours later and charged with murder. >> why did you wait till this afternoon? >> two pieces of information came forward to us. we took those two pieces of information, compared it to the whole of all of the evidence collected all week long, and we were satisfied. >> reporter: police won't say what this new evidence is or reveal a possible motive. it doesn't make sense to a shocked and grieving family, who can only say good-bye to the close-knit relatives who shared a violent death. sean callebs, cnn, brunswick,

georgia. and now we take you to western pennsylvania, where a tragic end in the frantic hunt for a missing 4-year-old boy happened there. wyatt smitsky's body was found stuffed in a neighbor's septic tank. the discovery was made after searchers noticed the septic tank cover had been tampered with. one person is in custody, but no charges have been filed. the search began last night, when the little boy did not come home after playing outside with his two sisters. and then a totally different outcome in the case of a missing boy in southern illinois to tell you about now. the 6-year-old was found alive, hidden in a secret room at his grandmother's home in illinois. he was allegedly kidnapped by his mom during a custody dispute two years ago. police officers and the little boy's father are just echoing gratitude now that the boy was found safe. >> we let him out of the car and he ran around like he had never seen the outdoors. it was actually very sad. >> surprisingly, ricky is in very good spirits. for someone who's been isolated

in that house with no other outside beings, he's very social, very polite, very talkative little boy. >> their efforts were diligent, and i owe them a debt of gratitude. the greatest trial will be the reintegration of my son. and that's going to be the challenge. >> ricky was found just nine days before his seventh birthday. tonight he's safe and sound with a relative on his dad's side. his mom, shannon wilfong, you see here, is facing felony child abduction charges. philip garrido's alleged kidnapping of jaycee dugard in 1991 was a tragedy for the family. but some good came out of it in a very real way. jaycee's ordeal probably helped save other children from a similar fate. here's cnn's kara finnstrom. >> everyone's just going, did you hear jaycee's alive and she's found? we're all so excited. >> reporter: neighbor angie keil never forgot the blue-eyed girl so violently snatched on her way to school.

during the nearly two decades since, sadness and fear have reverberated in a small mountain community. >> there were tears and they were scared. and they should have been scared. >> reporter: jaycee dugard's fifth grade teacher says classmates wrote jaycee letters. >> this is my senior yearbook. >> reporter: one classmate, megan doris, felt jaycee's absence during each life milestone. >> she didn't have the chance to graduate high school, to have friends, turning, you know, 21 and going to college. i think that's probably been the most haunting thing. >> reporter: but angie kiel says in the midst of all the horror and loss, jaycee unknowingly gave her and other parents an incredible gift. >> this guy walked around the corner, and he said if you come find my wallet with me, i'll give you $5. >> reporter: that was keil's son emmitt shortly after a frightening 1992 encounter. emmitt said the man chased him but he got away on his bike. >> practice these things with your family. >> reporter: emmitt was taught

to escape through a program in schools called a fighting chance. >> my name is terry. i'm jaycee lee dugard's mother. >> reporter: jaycee's mother helped launch it in her daughter's honor six years after her disappearance. >> we would put the kids in the trunk of the car and we would lower the -- we would actually lower this. we don't latch it all the way. >> reporter: isn't that a little scary for the kids? >> at first it is a little scary for them. but, boy, when they get out of the trunk, they feel really good. they understand what it takes to break wires, what it takes to kick out taillights or what it takes to bang on the top of the roof and really make a lot of noise. >> the training had told me just say no, you don't know this guy. and so i did. >> you just never know what would have happened, but the fact that emmet knew what to do and knew not to even engage in any conversation meant that he is with me now. >> reporter: keil says in this community, where nobody used to lock doors, the training appears to have helped a number of children.

now she's overjoyed, knowing the girl who started it all is finally back home. >> i can't imagine what it would be like to get her back. >> reporter: jaycee's mother ultimately moved away from south lake tahoe. but this community has always felt very connected to the dugard family. sunday they will be holding a hometown parade of celebration to show their support. kara finnstrom for cnn, south lake tahoe, california. >> now, in just a moment, i'm going to speak about the garrido case with a convicted child molester and a doctor who works with sex offenders. but first let's go to greg hardesty, who writes for the "orange county register." greg, you were the first to get an interview with jaycee dugard's aunt tina dugard. this is important to understand what they're going through and what they're thinking. first off i want to ask, it's been told that when we talk about jaycee dugard, she worked in the business. she had a lot of interface with customers, even e-mailing them, and had chances, it appears, to run. did her aunt indicate as to why she didn't? >> no, she didn't. unfortunately, the aunt would not discuss anything that had to

do with the conditions in which she lived or anything that could possibly affect the ongoing criminal investigation. she spoke in general terms. that's the big mystery. it's like -- and her girls, jaycee's girls, as we know, according to tina, had access to the internet, which raises similar questions. well, you know, they had access to the outside world. >> did you get any sense in terms from her aunt in which she was speaking with, with her niece as to whether jaycee had sympathy for her captor, any indications in that space? >> you know, again, any questions directly related to her alleged abductors, she really wouldn't -- >> didn't want to talk about. >> -- address. yeah. >> got it. now, let's listen to some of the sound from the aunt. she did talk earlier about how jaycee was adjusting now that she was free, no longer in captivity. let's take a listen. >> sure. >> i want you to know that a lot of great things are happening right now. and that they're happy. the girls are with their mom. i have heard her call my sister mom. it was a night, we were all sitting together and my sister was french-braiding jaycee's

hair. and i remember thinking, wow, she's french-braiding jaycee's hair for the first time in 18 years. >> and hearing her sister being called mom in 18 years as well. so what was your sense in terms of normalcy and how close the aunt was describing what jaycee was going through? >> well, the way she described it, there was -- the word "normal" came up a lot. they were focusing on doing normal things as a family, bonding like, you know, families do when they spend time together. she described the reunion as almost like a family vacation, the five days she spent with everybody. and, you know, just this overwhelming sense of joy, which i think at this point is masking a lot of the horror that this family underwent all these years. and they will have to deal with that in the future. so right now they're focusing on the pure, unbridled joy of being together. it's a miraculous story. >> after close to two decades,

as you have been telling us, greg hardesty, who writes for the "orange county register." thank you so much. for giving us a bit of an insight in terms of your interview, again, being the first to have an opportunity to speak with the family. appreciate that. >> my pleasure. so what makes a person a sexual predator, and can they ever get over their impulses? we'll ask convicted sex offender jacob goldenflame. he joins us next. and we have seen the headlines in the chris brown/rihanna case, but domestic violence is a huge problem in the african-american community. only that is largely underreported. we'll tell you why. and a terrifying sight off the coast of cape cod. several large sharks, including great white, looking like that. i know landscaping, but i didn't know how wireless could help my business. i just don't know how wireless can help my business. tara showed me how i could keep track of my employees in the field and get more jobs done faster. i was blown away. i'm blown away. only verizon wireless has small-business specialists in every store to help you do business better. we should get you a hat. now buy any blackberry, like the new tour, at our lowest prices ever,

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the garrido case has provoked outrage across the country and around the world. phillip garrido had already served a decade for rape, and many people say he should have never been released. our guests tonight are dr. fred berlin with the sexual disorders clinic at johns hopkins university school of medicine, and jake goldenflame, who spent five years in prison for child molestation. that was 15 years ago. he now works to help other sex

offenders overcome their problem. i want to first go to a tweet, gentlemen. we will go to melbook 194 who wrote in to us saying, "exactly how long does it take for one to recover? for you to recover, you said he has been recovering for 15 years, has he recovered?" that's to you, jake. jake goldenflame, how do you know that you're rehabilitated? >> well, the best way i can answer that is this -- whenever an urge comes up, and no matter how slight it may be, a sexual urge of attraction for somebody who's underage, along with the urge instantly there's a message attached to it, and the message to me is you're in danger. and so immediately, instead of dwelling on the sexual urge and fantasizing what i might want to do and strategizing some way to go after that person, instead my attention is, i'm in danger. how do i get myself out of this as responsibly as possible and as fast as possible? i'll put my attention on something else.

i'm look another way. i'll give my attention to something else. whatever it takes not to go in the direction that's going to excite me unnecessarily towards somebody that i don't want to hurt. and sometimes additional messages will come up like do you really want to ruin that young person's life? because now you know that's what will happen. you don't have the right to do that. you accept it and you let go. >> jake, when you were in prison, you had spiritual counseling as well as therapy. i want to now move over to dr. berlin. dr. berlin, how often does this work alone with offenders? >> well, again, there are a variety of offenders. so it's like asking can you help someone who's been a drunk driver? there's not one solution. but there are many offenders who don't go on after getting help to repeat, and certainly if it's been 15 years in jake's case, i commend him for that. >> jake, one of the ideas that has been floated out there as a solution is castration. what if that was offered to you?

>> i would decline it because i don't think it would be necessary, and i would very deeply feel it would be a spiritual affront to me and to my body if i were to ask for such a thing to be done to it. >> okay. now, that debate is out there. i do want to ask dr. berlin, castration, what is that procedure actually -- what happens in that procedure? >> surgical castration involves removal of the testes, and the testes produce testosterone, which is the hormone that energizes sexual drive. so the idea is if someone's hungering sexually for children, you can reduce the intensity of that hunger, it should make it easier for them to control themselves. the first rule of medicine is to do no harm. we should only use that when necessary. these days we don't need to put anybody through the trauma of surgically removing the testes because there are a variety of medicines available that can also reduce testosterone. >> dr. berlin, though, once they get castrated, those who do decide or are required to be castrated, can they still

physically rape, though? >> well, what they could do is gain access on the black markets of testosterone and replace it and be right back to square one. so i do think where we have concerns about the safety of the community, that those are cases where there has to be some sort of monitoring, even with the medication. it's given usually by a monthly injection. we know whether or not the person's received it. we can monitor blood levels to be sure their testosterone is down. in helping these individuals, we always want to give priority to community safety. >> you know, jake, eight states in the united states do do this, castration, either chemical or physical, through surgical means. do you see this as cruel and unusual punishment? >> i do indeed. i'm very strongly -- about that. i think it's going the wrong way. i think it puts the wrong attention, well, if we can only find one size fits all remedy to this problem, that's what we will do and we'll be done with it. i think that's going the wrong way. i think the right way to go instead is for the public to

understand, this is the public's problem. this is the parents' problem. they've got a child they have to raise. they want to protect that child. it's their job to do so. it's not the state's job to go around castraing people. what i mean by that is we have megan's law. we created it so parents would know who are the convicted people in this community who bear sexual assault in their past? you should know who they are. it's available on your computer. you should use that information to tell your children to stay away from those people. you should know who those people are so you can keep an eye on them. and if they're acting strangely or doing things that are strange, call the authorities. it is your job. so long -- if the garrido case doesn't teach us anything, it should teach us you can't expect the system to do it for you all the time because sometimes the system is so overloaded, it can't handle all of the cases that there are out there. you have to do it. >> if i may, with all due respect to jake, if there are people out there who are having a difficult time controlling themselves, if they're going to be able to live more safely in

the community by doing so, if providing medicine for them that assists them in controlling themselves makes others safe, as a physician i certainly don't want to deny them access to something that will help in that way and i don't want to use it punitively. on that point i agree with jake. >> dr. berlin, great segue for what we're going to talk to after break. stick around, please. when we come back, we will take a closer look at the option of castration. does it work? we've got some statistics for you. could it effectively here stop the offenders? and then later the obama administration on the defensive after the president's scheduled speech to school kids comes under fire and the white house strug tolls regain control of the health care debate. um bill--

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castration as a solution. you've been tweeting on the subject with us. mountain sister tweeted and said, sex offenders should be segregated into treatment facilities and kept from society permanently. humane but separated. and then there's danny clark, who tweets, "sex offenders should be castrated along with life in prison and maybe some therapy." move now to miss pretty mammy. "sexual offenders, especially repeated ones, should be sexually clipped and have their hands removed from their wrist." and jk wallace said, "once sex offenders are put in jail, must keep them there. one strike you are out law, must come to be." thank you all for tweeting on our conversation. you can do more if you like. just go to our website. dr. berlin, i want to go to a statistic that i found in "the washington post." they were alluding to a study done by the danish. it says that those who are castrated, when we talk about res recidivi recidivism, that goes from 8 out of 10 cases, or if i were to bring it up to 40 out of 50 cases, down to 1 out of 50

post-castration. so 40 out of 50 to 1 out of 50 post-castration. is it that effective? >> yes. now, i want to make it clear, when given to appropriate individuals. i don't want to say everyone who's ever committed a sex offense needs to be castrated. but there are a group of people driven by abnormal sexual cravings. that's the problem. and by lowering those cravings they are much better able to control themselves and there is extremely good evidence that this is a technique that will lower recidivism rates dramatically. >> jake, you were saying earlier not one solution for all, satellite but if these statistics are correct, this is hard to refute. >> let me make it clear if i may, to join dr. berlin here, i want to distinguish between chemical castration and surgical castration. i'm utterly opposed to surgical castration as cruel and unusual. that's what i meant there. i absolutely salute what dr. berlin has done in his clinic with the use of chemical castrating drugs. i happen to know one of his

patients who's been there a number of years, who's told me again and again how grateful he is for having had that medicine made available to him. he's continuing on an optional basis himself. chemical castration can appropriately be used well in appropriate cases. but i say again, there's no such thing as a one size fits all solution, and that's where i think we would err if we went, whether it's chemical castration, surgical castration, or anything else. it's not one size fits all. there are different kinds of sex offenders, as dr. berlin said, some of whom would profit more than others. >> so what would be some of the other solutions, would you say? >> one of the things you might do is you might have a more intensive field supervision unit for people like this. so when they do come out on patrol they're wearing an active gps monitor. there's someone tracking them hour by hour during the day, and you've got units on the field ready to intercept this guy if he goes places he shouldn't go. you have lie detector tests that can also be used with these people where you can put them on a polygraph.

there are a variety of additional tools that can be used other than castration if you believe that this is a person who doesn't fall in the category where castration is the answer. where they might be able to prove and earn their way back, you would have them under close supervision. >> let's bring in dr. berlin. dr. berlin, we've got a bunch of different solutions that are possibly out there. discuss them, if you would. >> well, perhaps if i can discuss a theme, and that is every one of us agrees that the first priority has to be to keep the community safe. but if within the context of keeping the community safe we can also salvage lives and give people an opportunity to be productive and good citizens, i think that's a good thing. and what concerns me about the discussion is often it's let's keep ourselves safe and the heck with these people, they're less than human, they don't matter. i understand those feelings. i know where the pain is coming from. but many of these people, when you come to know them, are not these vile creatures we tend to think about. so i would simply suggest that in finding the solution, in answering your question, if in keeping us safe we can salvage

some of these lives, perhaps that's something worth thinking about. >> jake, in your experience, five years in prison and 15 years of recovery, did you feel like you were not treated as human? >> i wouldn't use that term, but i do recall a period after i left prison and was in the community where the community attitude toward people like me was so hostile that i felt that we were being removed from society whatsoever, that there was no future for us in this country. and as a result i left the country for a while for that reason. i don't find that to be the case today, at least not for me, but i understand from many they get that same feeling. again, we're overreacting. we're treating everybody the same when the very concept, the very term "sex offender" is so broad, it encompasses so many different kinds of people. and i understand people's anguish. after all, these are their children they care about. but we have to be careful when we design our policies and we

decide what kind of laws we want that we do the appropriate thing with the appropriate kind of offender. we need to understand offenders better, the differences between them, and the things that can be done to help them recover. that's a possibility we should discuss, too. because sometimes with some additional assistance evidence has shown they can profit markedly in getting back to living good lives in the community. >> jake goldenflame, convicted sex offender, also author of "overcoming sexual terrorism." dr. berlin, founder of the sexual disorders clinic. thank you both for a very, very compelling discussion this evening. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. breaking the cycle of domestic violence. earlier singer chris brown talked about a situation with our larry king. but for every high-profile case that grabs headlines, there are thousands of families suffering in silence. we'll meet one woman who's working to make a difference. and then later for you, you know it's going to be a bad day when a car not only crashes into your house but takes out the entire second floor. so i couldn't always do what i wanted to do.

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i don't remember, and i don't want to get into that. two recurring themes for singer chris brown during his interview with larry king, which you just saw. he was asked repeatedly about what happened the night he attacked his girlfriend rihanna. here's a little bit of that conversation again. >> when you hear about all of the things that the police and the reports say you did, how do you react to that? >> i -- i just look at them like, wow, like i'm in shock. because first of all, that's not who i am as a person and that's not who i pride myself in being. so i just -- when i look at like the police reports or i hear about the police reports, i don't know what to think. i just don't know what to think. it's just like, wow. >> larry: you remember doing it? >> no. >> larry: don't remember doing it? >> i don't -- it's like -- it's crazy to me. i'm like, wow. >> now, there's more of that conversation online. if you missed it, log on to cnn.com for that.

something else you will hear in larry king's interview with chris brown, by the way. allegations of other unreported physical disputes between him and rihanna. studies show unreported domestic abuse is not uncommon in the african-american community. randi kaye spoke to a whom speaks from her own experience. >> reporter: this woman lived a nightmare for six long years. day in and day out, she was abused by her husband, emotionally, physically and sexually. >> he would want to have sex, and i would say no, and then i would have to i would say fight for my life to try and keep him from raping me. >> reporter: like so many women, she stayed in the relationship. she had four children and wanted to keep her family together. how bad did it get? >> after i left him, he took a crowbar and he broke into the house. and i was asleep. and when i woke up, he was standing at the door with a crowbar, and he said, "i should hit you with this." >> reporter: she never reported her husband's abuse, and he was never arrested or charged, which is why we're not identifying

her. help me understand why you didn't go to the police. >> for an african-american woman to call the police on an african-american man, it would be like sending another brother to jail, to prison. and not believing that they would get the right treatment from the police. >> reporter: that statement might sound bizarre to some, but it's not uncommon in the african-american community. and experts say it makes a bad problem worse. just how prevalent is domestic violence among african-american women? a study by the department of justice from 2001 to 2005 found domestic abuse among black women 25% higher than white women. in fact, it was higher than women of all other races except native american. ruth slaughter has worked with survivors of domestic violence for more than 30 years, mainly in the african-american community. women stay in abusive relationships, she says, because

they're in denial. >> he's going to get better. it's only this one time. and when he apologizes and says that he's sorry, you hope that this will be the last time, and you believe him. >> we're supposed to be these strong, you know, women able to bear anything. that's one of the reasons that we endure the abuse more -- reported abuse more than others because we're trying to protect ourselves and we're trying to protect the african-american community. >> reporter: in the celebrity case of chris brown and his girlfriend rihanna, police say brown shoved her head against the passenger window and continued to punch her in the face, even threatened to kill her. brown pleaded guilty and publicly apologized in this video posted on youtube. >> i have told rihanna countless times and i'm telling you today that i'm truly, truly sorry. >> reporter: but with singer chris brown sentenced to probation and community service for doing this to a woman, this

victim says it sends the wrong message. >> the whole problem with domestic abuse perpetrators is a lack of accountability. that's not enough accountability and responsibility for him. i think the message needs to be a little stronger. >> reporter: this woman eventually got the message. she divorced her abuser. today she counsels other women who are in abusive relationships, trying to stop the violence, trying to end the denial. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. a terrifying sight off the coast of cape cod. that's right. great white sharks. you can see them there. and check this out. we're heard of cars going into homes, but the second floor of a home? a new customer wanted to insure his home so we did a nationwide on your side review. turns out it was more valuable than he thought.

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the moment. and firefighters say they've built a protective line to keep communities safe. now they're battling the flames chewing into the nearby wilderness. a $100,000 reward has been offered now for information leading to an arson arrest in that case. let's go over to jacqui jeras at the moment. and when we take a look at the weather, it was pretty warm towards the end of the week, which firefighters don't like. >> yeah, temperatures have been cooling down a little this weekend, richard. in fact, today we're looking at temperatures about five to ten degrees cooler than they were yesterday. tomorrow we're going to add maybe another five. so ten degrees cooler overall throughout the rest of your weekend. so that's really helping. we also have a southwesterly flow starting to push through here. so the marine layer will start to set in for tomorrow. more humidity, that pacific moisture pushes in and we can see even see a little cloudiness in this area for tomorrow. that's some great news, certainly for the fires. and the winds pretty steady. we're really not expecting them

to pick up at all. okay, holiday weekend, right? labor day holiday. what are you planning on doing? are you thinking about heading to the beach at all? well, we've got a little warning for you if that's what you were planning to do in chatham, massachusetts. take a look at this video. that's exactly what you think it is. cue the "jaws" music. it's a great white shark. there have been five spotted about a mile away from the beaches here. one of which has been confirmed as a great white. there are nearby fields they like to have for lunch, so that's the reason they're in the area, but they're advising people to stay out of the water. there you can see the police boats patrolling there. people running out of the water. get away from the sharks, my friends. water is really cool there, by the way, too. so probably not a great weekend to get in that water anyway. as you take a look at the water temperatures, yeah, 65 up in provincetown. 69 there in southampton. and we're also looking at about 74 degrees in cape may. that's a little bit better. we've got lots of showers and thundershowers across florida, across the gulf coast. that is not making for great

beach weather. we've had a lot of rain across arizona today, causing for a little bit of flash flooding. they need the rain, so you don't want to complain too much. do your barbecues inside, unfortunately. here's the big picture, then, for the rest of your holiday weekend. our weather pattern is kind of staying the same. so continued stormy across parts of the south and southeast. gorgeous in the upper midwest and northeast. the biggest weather change is the pacific northwest, where the rain moves in and even a little snow in the mountains. yeah, in early september. richard lui. >> my friend, you have been very good to us this holiday weekend so far. >> doing what i can. >> you're doing an awesome job. look at that. great weather all across -- for the most part all across the country. >> you can't complain much about that weather at all. >> jacqui jeras, thank you. it's like a scene from a hollywood car chase, but in this case it's too real. it happened on long island, new york. a man was driving so fast in his jeep, and he jumped a speed bump and crashed into this house on the second floor. the jeep ripped a hole in the house, fell down through the

foyer and landed with its headlights pointed towards the sky. out of a movie, isn't it? the homeowner was asleep on the couch when that happened. he wasn't hurt, but he still can't believe this whole thing happened. >> i was shocked. how could you do this? you know, what were you thinking? how fast were you going? he was doing a "dukes of hazzard." >> well, the driver of the jeep faces now dui charges. he suffered only minor injuries and his passenger was not hurt at all. but amazing story and pictures as you saw there. president obama's money man is in london tonight talking about the economy. and if you think the only place to see klingons, darth vader or storm troopers is at the movies, storm troopers is at the movies, think twice. ter.

the president's go-to man on the economy is in london, where reviving the world economy and cushing bonuses for bankers are some big issues at a g-20 meeting of finance ministers there. treasury secretary tim geithner is among the group which represents the world's 20 largest and fastest growing economies. now, in an exclusive interview with our richard quest, geithner says the world economy is stabilizing but we still have a ways to go. >> we have brought the world economy back from the edge of the abyss and you are starting to see the necessary conditions for a recovery. but we don't have recovery yet. we have growth under way, but we don't yet have a -- the conditions for a self-sustaining recovery led by private demand, which is what we're all committed to achieve. >> g-20 ministers also took on the issue of those huge bonuses for bankers that caused so much outrage around the world. they agreed on a framework for curbing those bonuses, but the details will have to be worked out at the g-20 summit in pittsburgh. that's happening later this month. come and stay a while, won't you? that's what a connecticut couple is urging people to do.

they're the owners of a bed and breakfast, and they saw their business drop off during the recession. but things are starting to rebound for them. our gerri willis has that story in our "money and main street" report. >> reporter: at the heart of this area is this bed and breakfast they bought in norfolk five years ago. at the time it seemed like a cash cow. but last year along with the economy, bookings dropped off, even steeper than the national average of 7.3%. >> we were down about 20%, 25% overall in terms of bookings and that was really a reflection of the economy. people holding back on discretionary spending. this year it started out fairly weak. the bad weather, the wet spring, the wet season didn't help. >> reporter: but help was on the way. this is the first summer of the infinity music hall and bistro, a newly refurbished public music venue in town making norfolk an overnight destination.

>> i think that it's becoming a destination for people. i know the inns are filling up. i know the restaurant is busy. the restaurant next door is busy. so i'm sure we're making an impact. >> reporter: it's an impact the johnsons are starting to feel, but not enough of one to sit back and relax. dean and jean marie are taking all possible steps to bring overnight visitors in the door. >> we can call this our budget roomt but actually a lot of people find it. it's small, intimate and a lot less expensive than some of the other rooms. >> reporter: what's the price differential? >> the price here is about maybe $100 less than some of the more expensive rooms down the hall. >> reporter: these days budget means bookable. the johnsons see more guests in this room than any other, and they're willing to negotiate. >> given the fact that people are stretched and more concerned about their discretionary funds, we're much, much more flexible. so if someone says, we can only stay one night, we almost always accommodate them for that one-night stay. >> reporter: and one-night stays are on the rise, in part thanks to infinity. ♪

200 scheduled shows, soldout performances and big-name bands have meant needed bookings for mountain view inn. >> i think it's probably added maybe 20% more than we would have had previously. >> reporter: and for the remainder of the summer season -- >> we're pretty much sold out every weekend. >> reporter: gerri willis, cnn, norfolk, connecticut. the outrage over president obama's upcoming speech to school kids has been quite an education for the white house amid a bid to get back on message for the health care debate. later, the scene in downtown atlanta right outside our world headquarter doors could accurately be described as geeks in paradise. and we'll take you there. at bank of america we are keeping our finger on the pulse. we actually move with the economic times. we're not just sticking with the same product.

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call it health care reform plan b. cnn has learned the white house is quietly talking about drafting its own health care legislation right now. our sources stress nothing has been set in stone but the administration is leaning against a public option.

president obama is slated to speak to congress about health care on wednesday night, and we're told the bill may be delivered sometime right after that. this is a more hands-on approach for the white house, which has so far left it up to congress to hash out that. and a quick reminder, cnn will carry the president's health care reform address to congress live wednesday night at 8:00 eastern. so the white house plans to release the transcript on monday of president obama's planned back-to-school address to america's school children, but that might be a little too late for his critics. the political uproar over the speech caught fire with conservatives who say the president is using the remarks to push his own political agenda. >> i'm not happy about it. they are totally disregarding what the parents have the right to do and what their children should be seeing, and it's totally cutting the parent out of the picture. >> this is crossing a line, and i'm going to use an ugly word right now, but i believe a fascist line that the president has no right whatsoever to go

into these pre-k to sixth grade children and try to somehow sell his agenda. >> well, white house aides insist tuesday's address is not political. they say the speech and accompanying lesson plans are designed to encourage students to study hard and stay in school. well, you don't have to be in school, by the way, to catch the president's speech to the kids. just tune in to cnn. we plan to carry it live right here at noon eastern on tuesday. don't miss that. a father of three becomes a savior of 47. he's a cnn hero who will surprise you. and this -- >> it's geek-orrofic. it's just seeing other people who are kind of like you in the same place. >> and a lot of them. self-described nerds of the world unite and take over downtown atlanta. gecko vo: you see, it's not just telling people geico

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now to our hero of the week for you. it's been ten years since the small asian island of timor erupted in a violent fight for independence. in its wake more than 250,000 people were displaced, many of them its most vulnerable residents, children. one commercial pilot was so moved by the disturbing images he saw on cnn that he changed his entire life to help them. meet captain budi sowarti. >> there was riots, buildings being burned, people just trying to save their lives. the children are supposed to have proper upbringing, and what they were having there was far from being normal. this was so devastating to me and my family. that's why we committed to go and to help. my name is budi soehardi.

i'm a pilot for singapore airlines. i founded an orphanage to help the children in west timor. when we started, we only had four children. and we found out even more needed help badly. so we decided to build our own orphanage building. right from the beginning we give them vaccination, clothing, food. >> a. >> a. >> but we could not give them anything more valuable than a proper education. ♪ a, b, c, d, e, f, g ♪ a, b, c, d, e, f, g >> translator: life was tough before. when my parents die, i couldn't go to school. for me, budi is an angel. i'm now in medical school. >> very, very good. >> we're able to provide and teach them just be who you are, help others and do it from your

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you know, things around here have been stranger than fiction, shall we say. science fiction, that is. dragon-con has hit atlanta just down the street from cnn's world headquarters. that's what we're looking at. so we bring you the sights, the sounds, the strange creatures from the big sci-fi and fantasy convention. enjoy this. >> it's geek-erific. just actually seeing other people that are kind of like you in the same place. and before the internet, you know, you kind half-to know somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody that was into what you're into. and,000 we can all kind of get

together in the virtual reality, you know, of the world wide web. and then meet up here. there's people that i only see here once a year that i talk to on message boards the rest of the year. so it's really cool. i have a great time. there's so many subcultures and things. it's really interesting to see everybody getting together and actually getting along for a change. >> i've been coming here since i was about 7 years old. i still come every year just to see the people, the costumes. people look for something fun to do, and i think people enjoy escaping reality. they come here to chill. i think it's the people that they meet here. >> i don't see quite as many costumes as i have in the past. there's many costumes that you wouldn't expect to be good as they are, but yet they are.

>> the film "aliens" is what got us into this. i've always been into science fiction. and just the biggest toys to the biggest boys. that's all it is. >> some of our friends we know who always come to this convention, they can't make it this year, but maybe next year. >> it's been a little bit less -- a little bit smaller. for the last year, year and a half i've noticed. >> it's really great to see people actually working on their costumes. there's not as much store-bought as you normally see. so you're seeing a lot more dedication from the fandom these days. >> pure unbridled insanity. just completely out of their little heads. and that's what makes it great. >> honestly, it's just being a fan of something. something you like is something you like. you put your heart and soul into it, and it all works out.