industry in turkey has attracted scandal. in 2005, a contestant on the hit show "would you be my bride" was found dead in a hotel room in an apparent drug overdose after the show wrapped. since that show, the mother of the contestant who went on to pass away, she also appeared in the show and has since appeared in a new tv show as a host, also of a match making tv show. ivan watson, cnn istanbul. >> thank you for joining us, we're back on monday. meanwhile t.j. holmes is in for rick sanchez. the tea party is about to arrive in washington. but how much of this is really about taxes and how much is just plain hate? riot police beat protesters in the streets.

why would a conservative activist pose as a pump complete with a fake prostitute? it's all about busting this organization. >> you're gay, i'm not. >> you're not? >> he's also not here. but this is still your national conversation for friday, september 11, and it starts right now. and good afternoon, everybody, i'm t.j. holmes sitting in today for rick sanchez, your next generation of news beginning right now. we have some brand new developments to tell you about on a story we have been following here on cnn. the conservative activist filmmaker who also poses as a pump. why would he do that? yes, a pimp complete with a fake prostitute. he did this to record two baltimore a.c.o.r.n. workers allegedly giving advice on how to avoid paying taxes on a prostitution ring involving underage girls.

our abby boudreau is here to tell you about the strange developments. >> have you seen the tape. >> we have seen the tape. >> that tape is pretty outrageous to say the least. now everyone's talking about this tape. where it appears that the two a.c.o.r.n. workers were caught on tape allegedly offering advice on how to set up a prostitution ring and evade the irs. and the man who secretly recorded the video is a man named james o'keefe. and remember a.c.o.r.n. is a grass roots voter registration group. o'keefe and the so-called prostitute were asking for advice on how to set up a prostitution ring involving underaged girls from elvalue a door. one says you want to keep them

clean and make sure they go to school and she says to train them to keep their mouths shut. one worker said she could even claim some of the girls as dependents. and there was even a suggestion that the woman who was posing as a prostitute stop calling herself and prostitute and start calling herself an entertainment artist. >> you might have to name it something else. performance arts. let's see, independent artists. you could use that. your business is a performing artist. which you are. okay? so you're not lying. >> that's kind of boosting my ego. >> you're a performing artist, okay? so stop saying prostitute, okay?

>> republican congressman steve king of iowa is calling for a full congressional investigation into the matter and here's what he had to say. >> underline our electoral process and do so for partisan criminal activities, we have to audit them, every single associated group. we need to shut off every dime going to a.c.o.r.n. until such time as they can have a clean bill of health. >> scott levinson says the portrayal is false and inflammatory. in philadelphia, a.c.o.r.n. actually reported the reporters to police. levinson also says he believes the video was, quote, doctored and that the group is considering legal action against the filmmakers.

in a letter to fox, the worker also says, quote, she denies every giving tax advice to the pump and the prostitute. >> they were dismissed. the two employees that were filmed in the video were immediately dismissed because they did not follow the protocol of this organization. there's specific guidelines of what you can do when you do intake and that wasn't followed and so, you know, they were dismissed. >> we have reached out to those two workers, of course they have not called us back. meanwhile the filmmakers have posted yet another video that cnn is investigating right know showing a similar sting taking place in washington, d.c., we're making calls on that one. a lot of questions, we just have to keep looking. we're not the ones taking the videos so it's hard for us to

say this is exactly what happened. >> if they went ahead and fired them, then they are obviously admitting that they believe that these workers did something wrong, even though the national organization is saying something different. is there anything illegal there? are the authorities looking into it? >> we did call the baltimore police department and they say they're not looking into it. but as pressure mounts and people are calling for the justice department to get involved, we don't know what will happen. >> we'll have you back for sure. abby boudreau, we have a couple of comments already on this story from you guys. we'll take it over here to the facebook screen. let's go with anita, saying it's a nonstory, we have been down this a.c.r.o.n. strewn path before, the obama haters will obsessively cling to it, but

they will be the only ones. main stream american will shrug at the craziness. a.c.o.r.n. is pretty trivial when you don't have a job or food for your kids. it seems like they are in the news with this kind of stuff all the time now, and on top of that, when the story breaks some leader or organizer is always saying it was a temporary employee or something like that. you may be commenting on this one we're about to show you. >> the most dangerous place. >> really? [ explosion ] >> you all right? >> yeah. >> you hear that? that explosion? that is one of our own right next to that explosion, michael ware who was reporting on the taliban in kandahar in afghanistan, and almost lost his life to an ied.

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how you could start saving. all right, welcome back, everybody. don't take your eyes off the screen here for a second. and also i want you to listen close, i want you to see and hear what happens when a roadside bomb explodes in afghanistan right next to a cnn reporter and photographer. >> this is the most dangerous place in kandahar. >> oh, really? >> yeah.

[ explosion ] >> you hear it explode there, and then you can hear that debris come down on top of them. this happened in kandahar while cnn's michael ware were on night patrol with a police unit. michael has a story to tell on surviving in afghanistan in the heart of taliban country. but first let's tell you what's happening in afghanistan today. a lot of people are talking about what's happening tomorrow. a leading u.s. senator on military matters, michigan's carl levin says no more troops in afghanistan, he is saying no more until we do some other things first, namely try to build up the afghan security forces. we're going to be talking about troops and deployment and the troops in our military involvement. but first that report about survival in that country from our michael ware, take a look. [ explosion.

>> this is one night, one police patrol in kandahar. a hidden taliban roadside bomb, an ied is about to hit that afghan police dun truck. a cnn cameraman and i are riding it. by some miracle, it detonating a heart beat too soon, otherwise we would all be dead. instead gravel rains over us. then comes the shooting, the so called death blossom police fire to ward off further attack. but this is the true front line against the taliban. it's where president obama's war will ultimately be won or lost. >> oh, my god! >> reporter: on that front line is my old friend, an afghan police commander. i have been away for six years reporting in iraq, so it's a relief just to see he's still alive.

it takes a certain kind of man to survive for long on the kandahar front. as a police commander, he's been killing taliban since december 2001. for the taliban, that means he's been a target for eight years. i have no idea how he survived. i protect myself, he says, god has a date for everyone's death and when that day comes, they will die. but my day has not yet come. the men and boys he commands guard the backdoor to kandahar. after this outpost comes territory fully controlled by the taliban. through that mountain pass, just beyond his checkpoint, it's all taliban. as for our night patrol, we have just broken the muslim fast of

ramadan with the commander and his forces. it's very hard to see where we are because the men we're with are using as little light as possible. these are afghan police controlling kandahar. this is the birthplace of the taliban. let's get moving, we're going to get back in the trucks. these men do this every night. and where we are right now is a taliban-held neighborhood. the commander says if they were patrolling, there would be attacks almost every night. in the vehicle, he warns me we could be headed into trouble. >> the street we're getting inside now is called the street of nurzai, and this is the most dangerous place. >> oh, really? so we're about to enter the most dangerous area? this is where they have a lot of contact with thorthor -- the

insurge insurgents. here we are, in the middle of the night, walking through this neighborhood watching the police at work. we arrive at an intersection controlled by taliban fighters. >> we were here two days ago. this intersection here, this bridge was a taliban running point. the commander says every night there were 20 or 30 taliban gathering here to share information and to launch attacks. but by establishing one permanent control base, he's forced the taliban to move to another area. we didn't know the strike against our vehicle was only moments away. the police gun struck the cameraman and i are riding in is headed straight. the taliban bomb is hidden ahead of us. it seems victory is still a long way off. are you all right? >> yeah.

>> michael ware, cnn, kandahar. >> we will continue to talk about afghanistan right after the break. but congressman adam smith, want to know if he agrees with the chairman of the senate armed services committee, who says that for now, no more us troops should be heading towards afghanistan. a quick break, we'll be right back. and that's a change i feel good about. new from one a day.

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hello and good afternoon once again, everybody. t.j. hoe jvmj. holmes sitting i sanchez. you saw michael ware with an ied blowing up right next to him. some of you are reporting to us about what you just saw. someone saying michael ware is amazing, thank god he keeps going into harm's way to show us the truth about what's going on in the world. i always look forward to his reports. stay safe, michael. we echo those sentiments. we certainly thank him for going introha

into harm's way to get those reports. senator carl levin, democrat from michigan. he says the u.s., quote, has lost the initiative, end quote, in the war against taliban insurgents. he wants afghan forces increased by a whole lot before one more american service member is deployed. joining me now congressman adam smith a democrat, and the congressman just got back just days ago from afghanistan and pakistan. sir, we appreciate you being here. i know you read the comments today from senator levin who was on the floor of the senate making a speech today. he says pointblank that we should increase and accelerate our efforts to support afghan security forces in their efforts before we consider whether to increase u.s. combat forces above the levels already planned. do you agree with him that before we even think about

sending another u.s. member that we need to increase afghan security forces? >> i agree in part and disagree in part. >> which part to agree with? >> let me explain. certainly i think the critical element, this is a classic counter insurgency campaign, and in a counter insurgency campaign, what you need is the locals, in this case the afghans to take the lead in that. they need to work with us, they need to be the ones who are providing security. yes, we need to train their army, we need to train their police. but there's a huge development piece in this. we need to work with the afghans to provide the security they need. i think we should preclude our options. part of enabling them to train the army and train the police is to make sure that they have security. and if that requires u.s. troops to help provide security, to give them the space they need to get to the point senator levin mentions, i don't think we in congress should be precluding options to get there. furthermore i have enormous

confidence in general mcchrystal, he's the guy we put to lead this effort. the president put together a brand new plan in afghanistan, which i think is absolutely correct. we should not preclude options for the general that we have appointed to be successful. >> i want our viewers to listen right now to senator levin further explain his position and then we'll talk about it on the other side. >> in short, we need a surge of afghan forces. our support of this surge in afghan security forces to show our commitment to the success of a mission that is clue clearly in our national security forces. but we would do so without producing a bigger u.s. footprint which provides propaganda fodder for the taliban. >> i guess what about that point and many would say that's where

we made missteps in iraq as well, to keep throwing american service members at the problem. you got to show afghans that they can be taken care of by their own afghan government and security forces. >> that's the absolute goal of the insurgency, the motto is by and through the local population to get where you need to be. so i certainly agree with that piece of it. but on the propaganda piece, it cuts both ways, and there's also the security piece, yes the taliban will use propaganda the use of outside forces, but they will also use as propaganda the reluctance to do what we need to be successful. they will say you need to be with us because they're not going to help you. if the taliban are able through car bombs and suicide attacks to undermine that effort, if there is not sufficient security to train those police and train that army, then the effort will

never get off the ground. what's the magic right number of troops? i don't know, i would even submit that senator levin doesn't know, i would submit that general mcchrystal, the guy who's been over there, who understands the battle better than any of us, he's the guy who knows and i do believe we ought to listen to him. >> listening to him there, but never short of getting opinions from some of the folks in congress. tell me how far should you, how far should senator levin, any member of congress really go in coming out and making statements like senator levin does even before general mcchrystal comes out and says what he wants to do? does that undermine general mcchrystal at a time that support for the afghanistan war is decreasing among the american public. >> it is perfectly for senator levin or any member of congress to state what they think the policy ought to be in afghanistan or pakistan. and there will be differences of opinion. don't get me wrong, it's a very, very tough part of the world.

i wish that al qaeda weren't there, i wish the taliban weren't so closely allied with al qaeda and this weren't such a threat to our national security, but it is and we have to deal with that part of the world. i do think we ought to be caucus saying it has to be this strategy or it can't be that strategy before the general offers his opinion. if you feel strongly about it, if you feel that general mcchrystal is wrong, then we need to find a different general to lead that effort. i think general mcchrystal understands better than senator levin or anybody that you've got to have the local population in the lead. he's been very much involved in counter insurgency efforts, and he knows, but you have to provide security for those afghan people who are trying to get trained and be able to take over security in these areas.

>> there are a lot of opinions out there no doubt in congress. but given the time we're in, we're in the middle of this health care debate and the president is having a tough time getting all the democrats on the same page, at of opinions about the health care reform debate. is this the last thing he needs right now, and democrats need is another split within the party up there on capitol hill about what to do on another major issue? i'm not saying on afghanistan, that we're nearly as split as on health care reform. is this something they don't need right now. >> as the president said, part of,president is you have to be able to face more than one challenge at the same time. there also continue to be the major threats in iraq and afghanistan and pakistan, the difficulties we face and specifically, in afghanistan, the threat we face from al qaeda is very, very real. i mean particularly on 9/11, we should remember that.

so i don't know that i would say it's the last thing he needs, it's just what he faced when he got elected, he knew it, and these are challenges we have to meet and there will be differences of opinion. and in afghanistan, i think he is. >> all right, representative adam smith, once again joining us from seattle today, sir, we appreciate you taking your time out of your weekend. thank you. >> appreciate the chance. what you're seeing here is all the king's men battling police. the story out of uganda, we'll put you inside the clashes coming up. but next, we'll go inside a different experience. our ali velshi took our cameras to the tea party express. you'll get that experience next.

well, if you follow the show here with rick, you know right here, he's been following the tea party express on its trip across the country. tomorrow that tour will end in washington.

so, taking this chance to take a look back at where it all started. it all started in elko, nevada. this is one stop, take a look. ♪ if you don't join ♪ they'll tax you ♪ universal health care is a big fat no ♪ ♪ ♪ we're taking back america ♪ >> take a look now at the tea party express in troy, michigan. >> excuse me. you better stop, lady. >> now see what happens when you don't have music? they need a jingle or they wouldn't have gotten into it like that. take you to one more stop, in scranton, pennsylvania, this was just yesterday. >> kill the bill!

kill the bill! kill the bill! >> free the bill! health care! >> what do we want? >> health care? >> when do we want it? >> now! >> i am coming from a socialist country. i am coming from a socialist country. >> kill the bill! kill the bill! >> free the bill! free the bill! >> can we just go back to elko where they were singing? we need the jingles. again the tour culminates tomorrow in washington, d.c. well, let's show you a scene, i'm sure you will remember, oh, yeah. you remember that scene well, the president ducking and moving there, as an iraqi journalist

pitched his shoou shoes at him. we have got an update on his future. not the former president, the guy who tossed the shoes. that's just ahead. also we showed you some video of this, here's some more of it. police in uganda facing off the police of the king. a little confusion here. with a l health insurance advisor... who answered all my questions... about medicare supplement plans. so i could understand it all... after i called... i was able to choose the plan that was right for me. if you're already on or eligible for medicare... call now to find out how... an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan... insured by united healthcare insurance company... helps you pay some of the 20% of your medical expenses... not covered by medicare part b. that can save you from paying... thousands of dollars out of your own pocket. these are the only medicare supplement insurance plans... exclusively endorsed by aarp...

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so call now, 1-800-232-7773/tty and find out about... an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan. a personal health insurance advisor is waiting for your call welcome back here, everybody. we have been spending the past two segments talking about afghanistan and your comments are coming in. i want to share a few coming in to rick's facebook page. the one up top there, it says time to wrap up that debacle, once that election cycle is over, they too have to get the collective will to staff off their extremists. a lot of complaints about the legitimacy of that election.

we'll see what happens. daniel right below that says i agree, no more troops to afghanistan. the u.s. needs to save itself first before we can go out and save the world. six years in iraq and all the thanks we got was shoes thrown at our president. again, we'll have an update on the guy who tossed those shoes coming up in this newscast. two days of rioting and at least 13 people dead. out of control in the capital of uganda. let's show you exactly what is going on. [ gunshots ]

>> all right, let me explain to you now why this is happening. well, land rights and unploem at the root of it all. thousands of people loyal to a

long ago kingdom. witnesses say they have seen government forces shoot protesters. we're keeping an eye on that story. all right, pumps, prostitutes and the child tax credit. yes, this all goes together. this is all part of a story involving the community organizing group a.c.o.r.n., now add the phrase to that, caught on camera. you do not want to miss this story.

all right, once again we appreciate all of your feedback coming in about several of the stories we have been talking about today and one of them in particular has to do with a.c.o.r.n. the community

organizing group, a conservative activist dressed up like a pump and had someone with him that was dressed up like a prostitute. they go into one of these a.c.o.r.n. offices and ask for taxed a vi ed advice. and according to the video that has been put out there, they have been given advice about how they could get a child tax credit for operating a prostitution ring. so the story has caused a bit of outrage again. it's hard for us to confirm it because it was shot by this independent filmmaker, but still it's causing a lot of concern right now. those two a.c.o.r.n. workers have been fired. let's go to a few of these comments over here from rick's facebook page. one at the top there says i'm sick of a.c.o.r.n. stories, will someone feed the acorn to the squirrel so i don't have to hear

about it anymore. another one says there are bad people in every organization. and a.c.o.r.n. should have realized by now that you can't just hire everyone without checking them out first. there's not everybody bad in any organization. but we will continue to follow that. don't go anywhere. continue to follow us right here. quick break, be right back. people notice i'm a good friend and a good listener. people notice that i'm a good boss. people notice my love of nature. people notice i can fix anything. (announcer) thanks to miracle-ear what people don't notice about you is your hearing aid because, look closely, our hearing aids are nearly invisible. our exclusive line of open fit products are so lightweight, so small and so natural sounding even you won't know you're wearing one. you know, most people don't know how good or bad their hearing is... they just know when they're missing things or hearing words incorrectly. miracle-ear can help.

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you can share your comments on this show. we have another comment about the a.c.o.r.n. story that's getting a lot of attention. this is from a guy named vincent. he says lions, tigers and bears, oh, my, what is up with a.c.o.r.n. now. first they are a voter frauding place? and now they sell women? of course he's making a reference there to this video of a.c.o.r.n. employees giving advice to someone who's posing a pump and a prostitute and they're giving tax advice. the two a.c.o.r.n. workers have been fired. this is the part of the day and of the show where rick shows photos of the day. we're going to start with some home video of some extraordinary events. one of the things television nice exists for. this is in florida, police

believe here, what the problem -- oh, i don't know you have music to accompany this. what you're seeing this is a car and a gas tank on fire at a gas station. police believe that static electricity ignited a fireball. they say the driver was there fueling up when he went back into his car to grab his cell phone. that was apparently not the right thing to do at that particular time. a spark caused the pump to explode. there's the video that somebody caught. the gas station attendant luckily jumped into action, hit the emergency stop button on the pumps. the driver, i'm told, did suffer some burns, but the gas station attendant is okay as well. and the driver is expected to be just fine. take you to some extraordinary video that we have been watching for the past couple of days. this is in turkey, where they got more rainfall than they have seen in some 80 years. and it led to all these scenes,

a lot of people needing to be rescued. this is floodwaters pouring into a commercial district. 20 people that we know of drowned in this one incident. also would you believe they're bracing for more heavy rain waters, but a lot of these scenes, people helping out, people being rescued. but see a guy just happy that things seem to be getting out of there. again, more rainfall expected. we may be expecting more of this video. also some video, can you believe this? i am still to this day very impressed at how he-man noou ma away from that shoe. the journal itself who did the tossing in this incident, he's getting out of prison on monday. he's been there for nine months behind bars for this shoe-throwing understand democrat. throwing them at the leader of the free world, our president, president bush. so what is he going to do now

when he gets out of prison? he's reportedly been offered money, jobs, marriage, also a career in politics. but we're told his first stop, though, after getting out of prison, payless shoe store. how much is our government beholden to us? and how much are they -- >> this is our guy, rick. we love rick. you have seen rick a lot, you know rick talks an awful lot, you also know peres hilton. he's a celebrity blogger. would you ever think about putting those two in the same place at the same time? can you imagine what happened? we'll show you what happened, stay with us.

this is a virtual twitter.com/ricksanchezcnn. what do you mean by that? >> that means you are the anti-christ, whatever your name is. >> you know, that is not cool. that is not cool because my kids windchill this show. >> no, no, no, joe. you are no long every joe the private person. >> rick, we both know who number two is. >> who? >> biggest ten of all -- >> what the hell does that mean? >> the biggest tent is freedom. freedom? >> sanchez! >> this next segment is about bill o'reilly and the truth. >> only anderson cooper at 10:00 covered this. >> roger, let's do a favor. your company had to pay $1.7 billion. >> the company did not pay those fines. >> oh, no, no, no. you're playing with the facts, sir. let me tell you what happened.

>> congresswoman, you're absolutely ignoring my question and i don't think that's very nice. >> not at all rick, and you are very nice? that's courageous, that's responsible. >> you're not a fan of political expediency. >> i don't like politics. >> watch this, aig, who are you talking about? >> aig. >> aig, aig, aig. not. yeah, it's your turn to get involved. look at all the tweets we're getting on this. >> where are the people who bring you the tweets? >> myspace, facebook, take a look at this. >> i know, dude, how cool is this. >> laugh with, not at. >> i make fun of his people, too, though. >> i'm perez hilton, rick sanchez. i can be offensive. i don't have to be politically correct. >> the fact that you are a porn star. >> i might be a porn star, but i haven't done anything illegal. >> let me ask you a tough question. i know -- >> all your questions are tough. >> but this one is kind of really -- i'm cutting right to

the chase, man. >> go ahead. >> if this thing doesn't get done this fall, after they come back from recess, is it as they say, curtains? >> however, my position is being usurped tonight. i will not be the emcee. rick sanchez will be your emcee tonight. >> porn stars and m.c. hammer, you got to love this show. this week rick's show celebrated its 100 anniversary. some of the highlights. those who tune in every day at 3:00 eastern knows rick calls this the national conversation, this hour, and now he's taking it a step further. starting next friday you can visit the cnn world headquarters here in atlanta, become part of the newscast and come inside the conversation. if you want to do it call the number, 877-4cnntour. well, all right.

want to turn now to our guy, wolf blitzer coming up in "the situation room" here shortly. wolf, good to see you as always. >> t.j., thanks very much. let me tell you what's coming up on the top of the hour right here in "the situation room." among other things, we have a special interview with the new york city police commissioner ray kelly on this the eighth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. also, we're going in depth on the political scene. what's happened? it's been a dramatic scene this week. paul begala, james carville, nancy photonaur. all that and more coming up here on "the situation room." >> you're from miami, and i'm from miami. we're both cubans. you're gay. i'm not. >> you're not? >> well, there you go. you made news. >> breaking news. >> you know, you never know what's going to happen with rick. you certainly don't know what's going to happen when rick invites somebody like perez

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all right. this is not a slight at all to rick sanchez. the dude talks a lot. he talks a whole, whole, whole lot. every day right here on this show. well, can you imagine to his guests what that's like for them? well, what happens when he meets his match talking to somebody who talks just as most as he does. well, yesterday he had such a guest. the celebrity blogger perez hilton. other's how it went down. >> do you ever get mad? >> i get mad for like -- if people accuse me of being lazy, that gets me mad. >> really? >> yeah. i don't get mad about a lot of things. >> this work ethic thing is a big deal for you? >> it really is. i -- you know, i work really hard. i don't know if people really -- i'm doing so much. i've got my website. i've got the tour. i've got a new website cocoperes.com. your wife might enjoy it? probably will. >> what is success for you? >> success for me really has been able to move my family and have them be with me and work

with them and them treat them nice. i bought my mom a car for christmas this past year. i still drive an old toyota camera but my mom has a brand new really nice car. >> do you really? >> yeah. >> you must be making some pretty good dough. >> i'm not into material things, and if i have some to give, i like to give it to my mom and sister. >> is that why you had to borrow my suit to go on air? >> i borrowed my jacket because i forgot mine in los angeles. >> i think it's good a good label on it, hickey freeman. that's a good seat. >> it is. >> for like a conservative new york wall street guy. >> i like it, kind of preppie. >> i'm glad you're enjoying it. do you feel like your success is something you work to achieve or something that happened through happenstance? >> everything in my life i've worked to achieve. >> burr, i mean, let me -- let me reask that. >> i get what you mean. a lot of it was probably luck in that i was one of the first people to use the online medium to talk about celebrities. when i started back in september

of 2005 now, september 2004, five years -- four years, five years ago, so flabbergasted time flies by. that was before tmz and before the magazines were really using the internet to communicate their information and then now it's like everybody is doing it so -- but had i not really put in the effort and worked, worked, worked, nothing would have happened. >> what else do you want to do? do you want to do television? >> i would love to do television and i'm working on a few projects. >> and you're a good looking guy. >> i think i'm good at it and give got sound bites and good of it v. i get people talking. i would love it from donald trump invited me back to the miss usa pageant again this year. >> do you think he will? >> he is a smart man. what is perez going to ask? i've already got some questions. >> i've got a sense to you that you are in many ways, and please don't take this the wrong way, you are very much if not all about marketing. >> yeah. i mean, not all, but marketing

and hard work and being smart. >> all right. rick and perez hilton. who knew. what is that? yeah. hey, that's something else we've got to have coming up, a guy with a different hairstyle going to go at it with rick sanchez. rick will be talking to the ex-governor of illinois rod blagojevich coming up on tuesday. black jechg has a new book that's coming out. nothing to do with perez hilton here, thought we'd make the connection between a bunch of guys who seem to like to talk a lot and like a lot of attention, so stay tuned for that. that's coming up on tuesday. before we let you go here, we want to share with some of you what you've been sharing with us here. a lot of comments about what we were doing today. several stories. let's go with the top three here over on the twitter board. the first one saying will perez hilton ever paint a normal color? i think every time i've seen the guy h