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my podcast, and click over to our show page cnn.com/housecall, we have information on today's show and twitter page at sanjaygupta.cnn. thanks for watching. i'm dr. sanjay gupta. more news on cnn starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello there, everybody, from the cnn center on this cnn saturday morning september the 19th i'm t.j. holmes. >> good morning, how are you doing? >> i got my rest, feeling good. >> it's hard when you get up so early. hopeful i you got some rest and happy rosh hoshanah. i do want to thank all of you for joining us today. let's get to some of our top stories today we'll be talking about. a 24-year-old afghan national out of denver, he has admitted
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ties to al qaeda. why are we talking about him? there is an investigation into a terror plot, major u.s. transportation systems may have been targeted. there's been increased security this morning. we'll delve into this investigation and why there's not been arrest in it. this morning talking about education or the lack thereof, and maybe you would say some simple questions here maybe you all could answer. what are the two parts of the u.s. congress? how many justices on the supreme court. >> nine. >> who wrote the declaration of independence. these simple questions are questions that america's schoolchildren could not answer. you will be scratching your heads and alarmed at this new survey, how few high school students can answer the simplest questions we're talking about. >> but at the same time we're not sure they all took it seriously because in some parts they said barack obama was the first president of the u.s. >> they didn't hear the question right. >> maybe they didn't read it right. it's definitely a talker, let us know what you think on facebook and twitter. join us today as we ask you not
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only about this story but other stories including our top stories which we'll get to right now, weigh in on any issue that we talk about right here on cnn, facebook, twitter, our blog size, plenty of ways to reach out to us and we'll read your top storistoreys on air. the values voter summit, there's debate over president obama's health care plan on the agenda today. well, we'll have more on the sum nit just a few minutes. i'm going to walk you through some video here that was alarming to us here in the newsroom of a subway attack in mexico city. the scuffle on the left is a man with a gun who went at it with a police officer, shot the officer, you see people being filed out here but that is him, he actually got on the subway, this is in mexico and continues to shoot. people scattered. two officers we understand are dead. the gunman was finally taken down. he is now facing some homicide
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charges but you see that scuffling and the officers there. we cut this video because you can clearly see that man there a little later in the video, we're not going to show it to you but you clearly see him get shot and fall down motionless on the ground. let's talk about the president and his plans today. he is talking with cnn's chief national correspondent, john king. you see part of that interview there. you'll watch is tomorrow at 9:00 eastern and here is what the president is saying. he's going on the offensive and trying to get health care reform legislation passed and he appears on five different television talk shows tomorrow and cnn will be showing its interview with the president on state of the union with john king at 9:00 a.m. we have new developments in the alleged terror plot that authorities believe was being put together by someone they say was ties to al qaeda and a plot not targeting somewhere overseas, a plot targeting us, right here, in the u.s., specifically new york.
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>> it's frightening for a lot of folks. federal intelligence officials say their main suspect had video of new york's grand central terminal. our homeland security correspondent jeanne meserve will take a closer look at this investigation. >> reporter: t.j. and betty, naji bul azazi deny any links with al qaeda but he now admitted having ties to al qaeda. the government is exploring what kind of charges it might be able to bring against him and that down the road, there is the possibility of some kind of plea agreement. he has been undergoing questioning for three days by the fbi, and we do not know what kind of information zazi has shared with them. on friday a homeland security note went out to transit officials and state and local law enforcement. a dhs statement about that says in part, "while dhs and the fbi have no information regarding the timing, location or target of any planned attack, we believe it is prudent to remind
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transit authorities to remain vigilant." law enforcement authorities have been saying since last weekend that they believe this case was the real deal, a real terrorist threat, the fact that zazi admitted ties to al qaeda would seem to substantiate that claim. t.j. and betty, back to you. >> the big question here, is this terror threat real? of course, new yorkers have seen a few false alarms in the past. of course they've gotten used to this in a lot of ways. peter bergen tells anderson cooper why this time this could be much more serious. >> how significant do you think this is, peter? i am and there's a lot of people who are skeptical when they hear about these kind of raids or arrests, oftentimes kind of on further inspection, it turns out to be just a couple guys sitting around talking who never had any access to any weaponry or anything. >> we've seen a lot of parts,
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anderson, aspirational, not operational, where people are talking about doing things and never implementing anything. this case may be different. one thing is we haven't, it doesn't seem to be informant-driven. seems to have been driven more by telephone intercepts, that may make this case more real. another unusual thing is the allegation of a direct tie to al qaeda. many of the cases in the united states we've seen don't have that tie. and finally another thing that is unusual about this case, this is an afghan. actually there are very few afghan members of al qaeda and i think this is the first afghan national who is accused of this kind of tie in the united states. >> zazi, the suspect is scheduled to sit down with police later this morning for a fourth day of questioning. let's get more on president obama's push for health care reform, among the five television talk shows he's appearing on tomorrow, cnn and "state of the union" is one of
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them. dan lothian is live at the white house. polls show a lot of america is very skeptical about reform so does the president think he can really reverse that attitude? >> well the white house certainly thinks so. that is why you're seeing the president go out there on the sunday morning talk shows, why even the first lady jumped into this battle for health care reform. they believe there is a lot of misinformation out there, and that there are a lot of minds that still need to be changed not only across the country but up on capitol hill, at least from the perspective of the white house, they believe that the president and to some extent the first lady are the best spokespeople to get out there, to spread the message to try to convince some of the skeptical americans, so that's why the president sitting down as you pointed out with these sunday morning shows, including "state of the union," john king interviewed the president yesterday and he touched on a number of issues, health care, h1n1 virus as well, but also on
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this controversy about the tenor and the tone lately here in washington. some people, including former president jimmy carter, believe that what's behind all of this is racism. whae here's what the president had to say about that. >> in recent weeks, people have raised some pretty serious questions, the big rally in town, signs talking about afro socialism, squast kas with your name and your picture on them, "you lie" shouted out at your television address and former president carter sees racism in some of this. do you? >> you know, as i've said in the past, are there people out there who don't like me because of race? i'm sure there are. that's not the overriding issue here. i think there are people who are anti-governme
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anti-government. i think there's been a longstanding debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition, where when presidents are trying to bring about big changes, i mean the things that were said about fdr pretty similar to the things said about me, he was a communist, he was a socialist. things that were said about ronald reagan when he was trying to reverse some of the new deal programs, you know, were pretty vicious as well. >> even so, though, there are those who believe that this time it's a little different, the tenor, the tone, a little deeper, a little darker than it has been in the past but the president, again, not willing to go down that road, that racism road, betty. >> dan, we do appreciate that. we'll be checking in with you later today and just a reminder for our viewers, president obama appears tomorrow morning on cnn's "state of the union" with john king that airs at 9:00 eastern. as we told you at the top of the show a major conservative conference going on in washington this weekend, got under way friday, the values
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voter summit. cnn deputy political director and friend of ours on cnn saturday and sunday morning, live on the screen. are you at the conference? where are you, exactly? >> reporter: we are at the conference, t.j. this is the media room behind us and across the hall is the big conference room, where the speakers will be starting about an hour from now. as you mentioned this say conference of social conservatives from across the country, this is their fourth annual meeting, social issues are a big topic here but as you can imagine what w what's going on in the country, health care another big topic among the crowd meeting here in washington this weekend and as you also can imagine, a lot of them not so happy with the reforms that barack obama and the democrats in congress are proposing. they take issue and they worry about whether this will lead to government control of health care and they're also worried that some government funding subsidies could go towards providing abortions another big issue. tony perkins head of the family research council, and he's one of the organizers of the event.
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he says people are fired up this year. take a listen. >> these are americans who are very concerned about the future of this country. it's interesting here, a year ago, we were here in a presidential election here, we have more people here this year. the enthusiasm level is three or four times greater than it was last year. what's happened americans have seen liberalism uncensored, they've seen what the policies this administration has put forth. congress has gone wild and they're ready to take back the country and they're enthused about doing it. >> reporter: again, about one hour from now is when we have more speakers coming in and day two begins, t.j. >> we just heard him in that sound bite there mentioned about a presidential election year and about how they're having so much energy and excitement this time around, even though it's not a presidential election year. it's never too early to look out. what are they, any implications there at this conference, even though we're a couple of years from election year, any implications there?
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>> reporter: t.j. you're absolutely right. it never is too early especially for newcomers to presidential politics and they're having a presidential straw poll who they like for the 2012 presidential nomination and for the peopleur people are speaking, tim pawlenty of minnesota, mike pens fr pence and mike huckabee, and mitt romney will be speaking in front of the crowd, possible contenders in 2012 and we'll get the results of the straw poll later today. >> paul steinhauser, as always good to see you. thank you so much, buddy. the torrential rains, the flash floods, the dangerous rivers, all in all it has been pretty much a miserable week for much of the south. the weekend forecast is coming right up. maybe you'll see a little sunshine, hopefully so. also we'll go inside an investigation into the murder of that yale grad student. police taking us inside and show us how they landed the suspect. and the lost symbol, the hottest book right now. hot enough to turn an unlikely
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t.j., where you see the dark green area, flash flood or flood watches out, and that includes metro atlanta area. let's look at some of the video, the montage of what's happened over the last week with the severe weather. these cows walking down a street in nashville, tennessee, because they got a whole lot of rainfall all at one time. that's the way that things have shaped up across the southeast. also, we're looking at huntsville, alabama. they reported heavy rainfall in some cases two to four inches in just a couple of hours, flooded some of the railways and there are those cows again. those were in nashville, tennessee. also, little rock, arkansas, saw about six inches of rainfall so far for the month, when normally they would see just about two. so flash flood watches continue across this region. want to take a nice picture of the capitol. mostly sunny skies for the
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afternoon, temperature close to 80 degrees. what a gorgeous picture unlike what we showed you last hour where we were looking at just kind of foggy, hazy skies across the metro atlanta area. we want to point out what will happen across much of the west and that is for tomorrow, we'll see an offshore flow and as a result, that fire danger really is going to be up. into the northern tier, billings, montana, 92 degrees and we're also expecting the temperatures to remain in the 80s for the next several days but then a big cooldown as we start to see a frontal system sweep across the pacific northwest. that's not until about monday or tuesday. betty, t.j., back to you. >> thank you, karen. we do appreciate it. we appreciate karen being here. reynolds wolf off this weekend, taking a little vacation. >> is he really? >> he's at a game i'm sure. >> if you all don't know reynolds wolf huge auburn fan so he has to go to the game today, but before he took off, he filed
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this report for us about palm springs, which he says is a great place for a little weekend getaway. >> reporter: digging the style of the dezer in palm springs, california. >> there's this '60s cool vibe in palm springs that's almost indescribable but it's certainly there and you'll feel it when you arrive. >> reporter: architecture buffs can take a self-guided tour of the hip buildings by picking up a map for $5 at the historical society or visitor's center. >> desert modern sichl an architectural style that evolved here in palm springs in the mid 20th century. architects who either were born and raised here or moved here, they adapted their designs to these conditions. >> reporter: but there's another slice of history at the palm springs air museum. >> the air museum has three hangars full of world war ii flyable war birds. >> when you walk around this place you'll feel like you're in
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a john wayne movie from 1944. well there san al qaeda connection in the heart of this country, late last night the suspect in a terror probe reportedly made a disturbing admission. we've got the details coming up.
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federal investigators say the colorado man they're questioning in an alleged terror plot had video of new york's grand central terminal and say afghan national najibullah zazi has admitted to having ties to al qaeda. he's not been arrested but is expected to speak with investigators later this morning. president obama says there has been real progress in dealing with the worldwide recession, but he adds in his weekly address that is out today further steps need to be taken. >> all of us need to act more responsibly on behalf of a better economic future. that's why at next week's g-20 summit we'll discuss some of the
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steps that are required to safeguard our global financial system and close gaps and regulation around the world, gaps that permitted the kinds of reckless risk-taking and irresponsibility that led to the crisis. and that's why i've called on congress to put in place a series of tough common sense rules of the road that will protect consumers from abuse, let markets function fairly and freely and help prevent a crisis like this from ever happening again. >> republicans meanwhile use their weekly address to attack democratic plans to overhaul health care. congresswoman sue myrick spoke for the republicans. >> make no mistake, these are all gateways to government-run health care. for small business owners, these proposals mean higher taxes at a time when unemployment is nearing 10%, and analysts are predicting that any kind of
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recovery will be a jobless one, and for seniors, expect massive cuts to medicare, which is unacceptable under any circumstances. doing this now without implementing significant reforms to make the program more efficient would leave seniors susceptible to the rationing of care. >> myrick also spoke about her bat well cancer saying her diagnosis alone took six doctors, three mammograms, one ultrasound before being located. the process took a few weeks but would have taken for long in a country with government-run health care. rosh hoshanah is under way, marking the start of the jewish new year. >> josh levs tells us it's time for family prayer and reflection. >> this is fun, a little rosh hoshanah 101. first of all, you can see the words there rosh hoshanah, it means the beginning of the year. this is the date on which in the
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jewish lunar calendar you advance to the next year. check out the website jufaq.org, points out what year it is, 5770. a couple more facts for you here, also known as the day of judgment, and this begins the ten days of penitence, yom kippur. there are 13 million jews worldwide and according to the fact book that's under a quarter of 1% of the world's population. you can say happy new year. it is a happy holiday or if you want to try it in hebrew, you can say it shanah tovah. one of the traditions is dipping apples in honey. we have video of a family doing that for you, celebrating rosh hoshanah. a lot more information here,
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hello, everybody. welcome back to "cnn saturday morning." i'm betty nguyen. >> hello to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. glad you to start your day here with us. ray clark, he's been held on $3 million bond, he's charged with the murder of that yale grad student, annie le. days before his arrest, clark had been under police surveillance. >> reporter: ray clark knew he was in trouble. he knew he was being followed by more than half a dozen police investigators. he likely also knew where the
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investigation into annie le's death was heading. new haven police chief james lewis told me he had his narcotics unit which specializes in surveillance track clark's every move, even before they found annie le's body, chief lewis says he knew clark was their prime suspect. the head of the unit, lieutenant john velecca, began following clark saturday night, the day before le's body was found, strangled and hidden inside a basement wall at the lab building where she worked, alongside the man now accused of killing her. at first, narcotics officers didn't want clark to know they were on his trail, that first night they camped outside his parent's house in cromwell, connecticut, about 24 miles from yale's campus. the day le's body was found, clark played softball. detectives were in the crowd. by monday, the day after le's body was discovered, investigators changed their tactics. they wanted clark to know they were tailing him. they parked right in front of
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his apartment, and let their badges show, while they walked around. mind games they were hoping would lead clark to talk to them, and maybe even confess. it didn't happen. tuesday morning, investigators went to him, armed with search warrants, they wanted hair and fingernail dna samples. investigators focused on clark in part because of what they saw on the more than 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security cameras. on that tape, ray clark stood out, a source with knowledge of the investigation told me clark was seen leaving the building after someone, possibly him, pulled the fire alarm. he had his head in his hands and looked distraught. after clark gave a dna sample on wednesday, he got a room at this super 8 motel in his family's hometown. he stayed there with his parents, hiding from the media, likely knowing it wouldn't be long before officers came knocking again. by this time, investigators had
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interviewed about 150 people, and had collected 300 pieces of evidence. then came the dna match our source says clearly connects clark to the murder, indicating the victim's dna was found on ray clark. early thursday morning, clark was arrested and charged with killing yale medical student annie le. he's being held on $3 million bond. he hasn't entered a plea. his lawyers aren't talking and neither is he. randi kaye, cnn, new haven, connecticut. right now we want to follow the weather outside. in some places it's been nasty for maginnis, a busy map. >> this is the deep south, what we're focused on for the next several days. we have an area of low pressure situated back here and this low is allowing a lot of moisture to spread more towards the north. also a little bit of moisture coming in from off the atlantic,
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but this is really inundated many portions of the south with two, three times the normal rainfall amounts that we would typically see for the month of september. let's go ahead and show you what's happening in memphis. that doesn't look so bad but in just a second, there you'll see it, a couple of feet of rainfall. now it didn't rain that much, but when you get some of the low-lying areas, that's the problem. they had some evacuations, one at a day care center, no injuries, but the water was coming into the building so they were definitely paying attention to that. we want to show you what's happening as far as temperatures go. temperatures in the deep south below normal. temperatures across the northern tier running 7 to 12 degrees above where it should be this time of year and tomorrow an offshore flow across the west and as a result, we could see that fire danger start to increase, and as far as our forecast goes, a heavy rain still continues across the deep south and i'm afraid for
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reynolds, auburn, s.e.c., you got to root for him, looks like it's going to be sloppy tossing the football out there but continued warm in the northern tier again. t.j.? we got a big new proposal on health care this week and our gerri willis helping us break down some of the specifics and it's a lot to break down, specifically talking about co-ops playing a big part of the bill submitted by max baucus. we're hearing public option, co-ops. not everyone understands what that means. >> let's look at the co-ops. you probably heard of agricultural co-ops and credit unions and there are medical ones in existence in places like seattle and minneapolis. they're just non-profit organizations that say they can provide better coverage at a lower cost for members. profits are put back into the system so any money that's earned is used on patients and other costs. the patients run these things, they elect boards, they take votes, so at the end of the day, it's a non-profit doing the same
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things as your hmo. >> we get an idea of how it kind of works but still for someone in one, how does life change for somebody who is in one of these things? >> it wouldn't be that different all together. look for patients, co-ops work just like private insurance, their premiums, copays and most enrollees see doctors within a network. it could be cheaper than private insurance but it's not necessarily so. some of them also see increases year to year so i think at the end of the day you'd see some increased costs but maybe not as much as the private carriers. >> so much to look at. we don't know if a co-op will end in a final bill. something else to consider. >> lots of fun things we're talking about today, winterizing your home, you better believe it's not too early to get ready for the cold weather ahead. how to save money if you're a college student and when to financially bail out your college student, when you give them a little extra dough and when do you say no more beer and pizza for you. 9:30 a.m. right here on cnn. >> kids need to be bailed out
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sometimes as well. >> that's right. >> gerri, good to see you as always. >> my pleasure. take a look at these live pictures on the left there you have atlanta, the last american city to host a summer olympic game, and then on the right, possibly the next city to say let the games begin. a look at chicago's bid for olympic glory coming up next, and also ahead, why is president obama doing a luke skywalker impression? complete with light saber? hmm. it is lights out for a classic television show, "the guiding light" says good-bye. discover friskies indoor wet cat food.
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top stories right now for. federal investigators say the colorado man at the center of an alleged terror plot had video of new york's grand central terminal in his possession and also say afghan national najibullah zazi which you just saw in the picture admitted to having ties to al qaeda. he has not been arrested but is expected to speak to investigators later this morning. italian prime minister silvio berlusconi says it will be best for their troops to leave afghanistan just as soon as possible, following the fourth single death toll for italy in the war. six italian troops were killed
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in a roadside bombing in kabul. ten afghan civilians died. 21 italian troops died since the war began. there's no timeline for troops towdraw. we took in a press conference held 30 minutes ago in baltimore regarding the massive water main break. the break flooded suburban streets and homes with dirty, brown water, yuck. this morning officials say the water in the area is now safe to use, and they're working to restore gas to homes affected. the red cross is on the scene with clean supplies to people who need it. president six foot main was shut two hours after it broke yesterday and no injuries reported. the water is down to four inches. chicago is that going to be the home of the 2016 summer olympics? we'll have an answer october 2nd. until then the u.s. is mounting a huge pr campaign headed up by the president and first lady. >> i've called chicago home for nearly 25 years. it's a city of broad shoulders,
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big hearts, and bold dreams. the city of legendary sports figures, legendary sports venues and legendary sports fans, a city like america itself, where the world, the world's races and religions and nationalities come together and reach for the dream that brought them here. >> it's going to take a lot more than a white house ceremoniy seal the deal. olympic supporters say the president needs to make a personal appeal when the vote is held in cope. hagen next month. we're joined by rick horrow from harvard law school, not just a pretty face, betty. >> wow. >> good morning to you once again, rick. it sounds great to have the president pushing out there campaigning for this. how stiff is the competition for chicago? >> incredibly stiff. you look at the papers in madrid and rio and tokyo are salute locks to get the olympics. the problem s you can only choose one so the spirited
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competition is even more so off the field than it is on. >> what's playing against, what's going against chicago? what does it have in its favor and what are things that might hurt it? >> favor is bringing the olympics to the north americas, again the north american time scene, the tremendous impact that television has on the whole thing and the chicago city council just 49-0 did pass a resolution, took away any reservation who pays for the guaranty. it cost $1.4 billion of private insurance to get that done, and some people say it's going to make 400 grand, some say it will lose 800 grand. the bottom line, 800 million, either way, the bottom line is that if chicago put itself in a good financial position and look at the advantages chicago has. you know that, the president knows that. the other side it's incredibly stiff competition. >> how much will this cost taxpayers? you mentioned some numbers there, is that the hook the $1 billion plus in insurance, is
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that more than that either? >> taxpayers are on the hook for everything. the question does it look like the l.a. olympics in '84 when the taxpayers made money or does it look like something that happened in sydney or athens where they lost, but loss is relative. you know that. we have new facilities being done, infrastructure, the greening of chicago, a lot of that would happen as part of the olympic effort. you got to factor that in the equation. >> all right, and they have the president being the cheerleader in chief here for chicago but he said he's not going to make the mitch in person. let's take a quick listen. >> i wouldn't make the case in copenhagen personally if i weren't so committed to making real promise for quality, affordable health care for every american but the good news is i'm sending a more compelling superstar to represent the city and country we love, and that is our first lady, michelle obama. >> now he's not going, okay. he's going to stay here and
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handle economic business but he might be sending somebody who can seal the deal even better than he can. >> well, wives always make more compelling presentations than husbands. can everybody hear that sniff' scored some points. on the other side of this, tony blair made the personal appeal to get the london olympics when he went to singapour, vladimir putin did the same thing in guatemala to get the olympics in 2014 for russia for the winter but michelle obama would make a strong case. he may drop in dramatically but nobody said that yet and by the way, oprah winfrey is on the committee, so the fact that she's there, who else is needed? >> that's a good point. sometimes cities getting for the olympics can be behind but is everything on pace in london now? >> no. there's a bottom line, $250 million shortfall, construction say little bit delayed. they're pointing fingers at each other about whether it's this much or that much and who is
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responsible. so they'll get through it but there's a lot of drama in london between now and 2012, my friend. >> it's always the case, always they're not going to be ready and last-minute this and that and every city seems to pull it off. rick horrow, always good to see you. enjoy the rest of your weekend. >> i can't wait for next weekend. >> we'll see you then. we've been talking about this, this morning. a new study out and it pretty much polled students, high school students in oklahoma, and asked them a number of questions, questions that many people taking the citizenship test in the u.s., immigrants who come here and got to pass the test to get the citizenship those folks passed with 92% but when asking these high school students, they didn't do as great. for example one of the questions, who was the first u.s. president, only 23% of those students got that answer right. and we've been asking you, what do you think about this, this morning and people have been sounding off on it. reggie says, "sad, very, very
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sad." twitter, done, "college kids that work for me can't do simple math without a calculator and can't write a sentence without proper english." they're dogging the students. in some of the questions like who wrote the declaration of independence they said michael jackson, so they may not have taken it as seriously as some thought. >> you think? >> yes. and another question, who is the first president, some people said barack obama. its owe vobviously not true. >> there was a phone survey, maybe some of the kids didn't hear the questions right or sitting up on the phone, whatever, michael jackson. kids can be that way. >> it sounds alarming hearing they're not doing so well on the questions that many people would think it's understood. >> we will be talking about that a lot more this morning, getting into that. getting to the group that put it together, why they put the survey together but it's alarming that some of the questions were answered. >> 23% got the answer right to that question, who was the first u.s. president. we'll take you inside the d.c. building making dan brown's
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dan brown's newest thriller "the lost symbol" sky-rocketed to the top of amazon's best seller list. sold over 1 million copies on the first book. >> elaine quijano reports tourism officials in washington are hoping to see the same travel boom experienced by rome
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after "the da vinci code." >> reporter: this is the actual room and the ceremonial altar where the startling ritual in the opening scene of dan brown's new book "the lost symbol" takes place. a secret initiation ceremony inside a building that free masons of the scottish reich call the house of the temple, but grand historian arturo dehoyia says in this case truth is more boring than fiction. >> has his candidate drinking wine out of a human skull. >> reporter: that doesn't take place here? >> i've never seen it. >> reporter: any wine drinking at all? >> not that i'm familiar with. >> reporter: dehoya says this is a formal meeting room where ceremonies take place but he explained free masonry is not a secret sinister society. >> free masonry is the world's oldest and largest. >> reporter: george washington was wearing the ceremonial apron play laying the cornerstone of
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the capitol. in a town where conspiracy theories flourish, even the book's arrival was shrouded in missry. >> state secrets. >> reporter: washington's tourism bureau is embracing the attention. partnering with the publisher to market the book and city with this video. >> discover powerful connections as the d.c. insider, plan your trip to the nation's capitol at washington.org. >> i think the book exposes reareds to a different perspective of washington, d.c., going into the neighborhoods it self, also exposing them to the u.s. botanical gardens and the temple on 16th street. >> reporter: as for the scottish reich, arturo is reading the novel but says no harm no foul. >> i as long as it's for entertainment i think everybody will enjoy it.
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>> reporter: officials at the temple which gets thousands of visitors each year say they wouldn't be surprised if the number of tourists jumps now that the book is out. elaine quijano, cnn, washington. the lights are going down on "guiding light." that soap opera, are you a big soap opera fan? the look on your face is hilarious. >> look at this. this is quality television. >> it ended yesterday, wow. the show is on the air, on the air was 72 years. now that means it was on radio before it was shot on television. it began broadcasting to auto radio in 1937 and the tv episode in 1952. >> i'll take your word for it. please, continue, tell me more. >> recently became the least watched show soap rah on tv, that's why the lights are turning out on "the guiding light" and what will replace it? the game show "let's make a deal" will take that slot there, but "the guiding light" is gone.
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i know you're really sad about it. >> you hate to see something go, been around for 72 years, that's a big deal. you wish you could hold on but people aren't sitting around these days watching. >> attitudes are changing. i used to watch the soap rahs. don't have time. >> which one? >> "days of our lives." you don't connect with any of them. >> victoria raoul is on, "young and the restless" she's not on the show anymore but -- >> no quizes about soap operas. we're not good in that category. michelle obama is good at selling from the heart, making sure every american gets the medical treatment they need. (announcer) romano's macaroni grill has a way to get things cooking..... at home. they're macaroni grill dinner kits, the restaurant favorites that'll ignite your senses. you get the pasta, special sauces and seasonings. add your grilled chicken,
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the father of army sergeant jar rod monti said his instinct to help others and that led to his ultimate sacrifice in of azban tan. barbara starr tells us his family cherishes his family and the special honor he received. >> reporter: president obama awards the medal of honor to the family of sergeant first class jared monti who died trying to save others in a brutal firefight in afghanistan. >> he said no, semi soldier. i'm going to get him. >> reporter: he is the sixth man to receive medal for actions above and beyond the call of duty in today's wars. all of them awarded post humously. there's no one wearing the blue ribbon from iraq or afghanistan.
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there's been no living recipient for any military action since vietnam. the defense secretary believes there are unrecognized acts of courage among the living. >> this has been a source of real concern to me, and i would tell you it was one of, i think it was one of president bush's real regrets that he did not have the opportunity to honor a living medal of honor winner. >> reporter: there are still 95 living recipients, aging heroes from past battles, world war ii, korea, and vietnam. >> before i was in the army i had no idea what the medal of honor was. >> reporter: gary latrell was recognized for his actions against the north vietnamese in 1970. he wonders why so few of today's warriors have been recognized. >> i've been asked this question numerous times. there were 240 medals of honor
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in vietnam, and there have been four in iraq and two in afghanistan, two in somalia. >> reporter: general james conway, the nation's top marine says one reason there may be fewer medal recipients these days, counter-insurgency wars don't have the big battles of the past. we asked this combat veteran if he wants a living service member to be honored. >> i do and i don't. any time a soldier or marine wins the medal, his unit's in extremes, he's doing heroic things to make the situation before. i don't wish that on anybody. >> reporter: files are being reviewed and the next ceremony may be for a living medal of honor recipient to join these men in history. barbara starr, cnn, washington. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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hey there, everybody, from the cnn center in atlanta, georgia, on this september 19th, i'm t.j. holmes. >> good morning, everyone. i'm betty nguyen. thanks for starting your day with us. we heard from officials in baltimore on this massive flooding, it's because of a six-foot water main break that happened yesterday. the water's been restored t is clean and safe, and gas lines still working on that. we'll get you the latest. video to show you this morning, amazing surveillance video here of a man who kills two people at a subway station, you see him there, you see the cop, he's shooting that police officer, we are editing this, not showing you all of it, people trying to rush out, this is in mexico. we'll show you some more of that video as well, but we do want to tell you about our top stories here first. federal investigators say the colorado man they've been questioning in an alleged terror plot had video of new york's grand central terminal. they also say the afghan national najibullah zazi admitted ties to al qaeda. he also, though, has yet to be arrested. he's expected to speak to
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investigators again later this morning. among the talk shows this weekend or own "state of the union" with john king, it will be on and john taped an interview with the president, the president, of course, is going to be doing pretty much a media blitz this weekend talking to i think at least five, six, seven possibly different interviews he's doing that will be aired tomorrow in the sunday morning roundup. in an interview with john king he talked about racism and talked about whether or not it's playing a role in some of the criticism that's been leveled against him. >> in recent weeks people have raised some pretty serious questions, the big rally in town, signs talking about afro socialism, swastikas with your name and picture on them. "you lie" shouting at you during a national televiseed adress and former president carter says he sees racism in some of this. do you? >> you know, as i've said in the past, are there people out there who don't like me because of race? i'm sure there are.
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that's not the overriding issue here. i think there are people who are anti-governme anti-government. there's been a long standing debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition, where when presidents are trying to bring about big changes, i mean the things that were said about fdr pretty similar to the things said about me, he was a communist, he was a socialist. things that were said about ronald reagan when he was trying to reverse some of the new deal programs, you know, were pretty vicious as well. >> john king's interview airs tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn, on "state of the union." the coming week going to be a busy one for the president. monday he delivers a speech on the economy at hudson valley community college in troy, new
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york. after that, he goes to new york to tape monday night's appearance on "the late show with david letterman." tuesday he speaks at the u.n. secretary general bank, ban ki-moon's climate change summit, i should say and that afternoon he meets with the president of china before delivering remarks at the clinton global initiative, and now wednesday he meets with japan's prime minister before addressing the u.n. general assembly and late wednesday the president meets with the president of russia. man, that's a full list. thursday he'll chair a meeting with u.n. security council heads of state to discuss nuclear nonproliferation and later that day he heads to pittsburgh to host the g-20 summit of leaders of 20 major economy. finally on friday he hosts a second g-20 session and follows that up with a news conference. over the next 48 hours president obama will set a new precedent as he works to get out his message to as many people as possible. is that message changing? we're going to take to you the white house and correspondent dan lothian joining us live from
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washington. dan, what is the latest in the health care development? we'll hear a lot from the president, is he changing his message any? >> we really will be hearing a lot, you know, from the president on this and we have for the last few weeks and months as well, but the big development this week was when senator max baucus came out with this proposal, it was the first time we've had something actually on paper now, the $774 billion over ten years, is the price tag. the big issue, though, is that it lacks public option, while it has a lot of the details of what the president has really been looking for in health care reform bill, it does lack that public option, which so many democrats really want, but that really was sort of the first movement, the big movement that we've seen in this whole health care debate, betty. >> the development with center baucus, good news for bad news, since we heard his plan this week? >> right. some people see it as good news. certainly the white house says there's good news in that
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something is actually on the table now because that's been the big criticism, when you go out there around the country, and a lot of people, when you talk to them about what they think about health care reform, they'll say we don't see anything. we hear a lot of ideas but there's nothing on paper, so the white house thinks that it's good news. it's a good starting point, and republicans look at it and say well, there will be a lot of amendments that need to be made, and so they're looking for something that will get both the support of republicans and democrats and up to this point the senate finance committee you had this gang of six, three republican senators, three democrats who have been trying to hash out a compromise bill, a bipartisan bill, and they weren't able to do that. not one of those three republicans on that, of the gang of six did support at this point support the baucus plan. so that's something that the white house really wants to see. this president came to washington saying he wanted to have bipartisan support on all of his issues that he put out
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there. this one is lacking that, but republicans haven't walked away from it yet and they're hopeful that can be achieved. >> dan lothian joining us live, thank you, dan. of course senator max baucus unveiled the big health care reform plan everybody had been weighting on, the bipartisan one. >> one of the most awaited documents in washington this week. josh levs takes us through some of the bill's specifics. >> as soon as the plan was posted online this week we immediately started breaking it down for you right no hehere. at cnn.com/healthcare you can read it, and see what were some of the key points from the plan and we have some points for you right here on this screen. let's look at this, cost about $856 billion over ten years, and would establish mandatory coverage by 2013. now there's no public plan as part of this but it does establish these non-profit cooperatives instead. there would be under this some new protections involving preexisting conditions, and that
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is one of the biggest changes a lot of people have been looking for, in and of itself that could be a change in the way health care operates in america where the law is changed, the way insurance companies have to handle preexisting conditions. too two-major points to look at, some of the most controversial issues involving health care reform we'll go to this first, which is about using federal funds for abortion. what it says here is that there would be these funds available for abortions only in cases of rape, incest, or the life of the mother is in danger. that's actually the way it is now so it remains in the current law and it also says that qualified health plans that are able to participate in the system under this plan could still provide funds for other types of abortions, abortions in other situations, but federal funds would not be used toward those. finally i go to this, illegal immigrants, a lot of people looking at that, and says that illegal immigrants would not be allowed to buy insurance, they may buy insurance for their children if their children are here legally or could be u.s.
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citizens here. it also says that it will require verification of personal data. that's something we hear debated a lot, will the rules be strict enough or not strict enough to keep illegal immigrants out of the system. one thing that we're going to expect to hear a lot more about and all right here for to you take a look at at cnn.com/healthcare. back to you. >> did you get all that? >> there's a lot. the plan in a nutshell right there. >> five plans out there, the baucus bill is the fifth one out there we were waiting on so a couple others have been voted out of committee in the house. >> it's hard to keep it all straight. it really is. >> yes. up next, we are going to put all of this under a microscope with the democrat's point man on health reform. how will it change your medical care. i crush you like tiny clown car. because you are... ...clown, yes? female valve: come, you hit me again and i break you.
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different. can the same be said for the president's message as well? kenneth thorpe, considered one of the leading health care experts in the country, a trained economist here, certainly helping democrats and republicans up on the hill as they try to put together legislation. good to have you back with us. >> good to be here. >> last time you were here he said we were closer than ever before. when president clinton was trying to put health care together never got a bill out of anywhere. we have the baucus bill, you still think we are closer than ever before and how much closer than the last time? >> the main vehicle to push reform through will come through the senate finance committee, that was introduced this week, amendments went through yesterday, next week the committee will start marking it up, working on the actual legislation so i think everybody remains hopeful. everybody's still at the table working at this and i think as it goes through the process, there will be more and more support for it. >> you've been helping with this, and the one thing here everybody gets hung up on, it
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came in, the cbo said $774 billion. the baucus, the committee said cost about $856 billion. but still some saying it's going to go up once everybody gets their hands on it. would you say that's going to be the case? >> well, senator baucus is trying to strike a middle ground, the goldilocks strategy, a little bit too warm, too cold, trying to get it in the middle. there will be pushing and pulling on both sides. there will be more money put in to make sure the middle class when they buy insurance it is affordable but at the end of the day it's still substantially below that $1 trillion figure that we've heard and seen before. >> you would say substantially. a lot of people are saying to cover the middle class not enough of the middle class is taken care of and they'll be able to afford the health care and to get more subsidies in there, get more of the help for middle class you have to substantially increase the cost of the bill. >> well, that's going to be the tradeoff. i think to move more of the
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middle class to make it affordable you have to put more money in. on the other hand there are a lot of people concerned about the price tag as it stands so balancing that is going to be senator baucus's main challenge next week. >> we have a graphic here to show, we talk about families, middle class families and what they have to pay these days. we have a graphic that shows a family the coverage has been up 5% 2009 and we see with the employee and what employers are paying and the total, keeps going up. are we going to -- given what we have seen in some of the bills, will they cause that number to start going down any time soon? give people out there listening to this, is this really going to help me out and stop these costs from going up? >> i think compared to doing nothing, there's no question that this is a dramatic improvement over the status quo. a small business owner, somebody self-plied, today you can have a 20%, 30%, 40% increase in premiums year to year. you never know how much the premium also increase. if you're a small business owner, the premiums will grow up slower and much more
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predictability in the premiums, one of the main issue small business owners have, there's no predictable year to year. if you're a small business, self-employed you'll see a dramatic improvement in what you pay for health care for the proposal. >> you can't have health care conversation these days without mentioning the public option. baucus bill does not have it in there, some in the house have said it's dead on arrival if it shows up without a public option. will that continue to be a fight and i guess how much are we going to see eded ato the cost of a bill if it did have a public option? >> we have to go back to the basics here. last year during the campaign, then a candidate obama talked about two goals, one was to control the growth in health care spending which i think this proposal does and two is a move to universal coverage, those were the overarching goals. the public option was a tactic or strategy to help achieve those goals, but i think at the end of the day we have to make some tradeoffs about what's the real goal here, is a public option going to drive the debate
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or ultimately are we going to get universal coverage and cost control and that's going to be the centerpiece of this debate going forward. >> you made a good point t seems like the public option has been that centerpiece of the debate and i'll have to tell you to people throwing back and forth we'll see whpat happens. ken thorpe over here in our neck of the woods and we'll have you back again. >> terrific, thanks for having me. >> great information, and on our make or break coverage that will continue, because up next, the front lines of health care, when we talk to a doctor who left a comfortable college life to help treat uninsured patients. find out why he has mixed feelings about senator baucus's reform plan. ♪ must have been one of the strangest days ♪ everyone may face the same uncertainty. ♪ some would say that you won't find ♪ protecting yourself, however, requires good decisions. find strength and stability with mass mutual, a company owned by its policyholders.
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pay now or pay later. we are seeing that message play out in various ways on the health care reform front and a report by the treasury department predicts that 50% of all working adults will lose health care coverage at least once over the next ten years. another report just discovered that 45,000 americans die each year as a result of not having health insurance. those are more than just numbers when it comes to ross isaacs, internist and kidney specialist
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resigned from the university of virginia to focus solely on people who can't afford health care, joins us live. what made you go from being a kidney specialist to working in a clinic right now where a lot of people cannot afford to pay? >> i think first of all i'm here to speak on behalf of those patients, there's 80,000 people waiting for 10,000 kidney transplants. there are many ways around this mess but the other alternative is to prevent this, so i'm fortunate to work with a lot of other doctors, nurses, health care providers that are dedicated to preventing this mess that are underserved and underprivileged. >> you're pretty much on the front lines. >> um-hum. >> and you're dedicating your life and your work really to helping those who don't have the means to pay for a lot of the services that they absolutely need. being there on the front lines, what do people want to see when it comes to health care reform? >> i think what they want to see is first of all they want to know that there is something -- the patients do not act
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entitled. they feel that they're willing to do whatever it takes. these are working people. they're doing the best that they can. most of these people do work but they lack the ability to do the copays for these, so they come to places like where i work, community health center, where we can provide care in a fashion that gives them what they need. these people want to know that there are opportunities for them to get their care. the patients tell me things, for example, that if you've got access to care, the care that you can get is excellent. if you can't get into the system, though, for example, as a patient of mine told me last night, then you're doomed. >> so you're saying -- >> it's two-tiered. >> when talking about health care reform what access do you want to see? >> i think this does not need to be a financial issue that's being discussed so much as a human rights issue. this is, if you think about from the patient's point of view, how can you enjoy any of the
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liberties in our constitution, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, how can you enjoy those if you do not have health and you can't have health if you don't have access. >> if the patient can't pay for t somebody has to. how do you remedy that? >> well, i'm not the financial expert on this. again, from the patient's perspective, when you're sick, and you go to the doctor, you don't -- when you bring your child to the emergency room, when that, god forbid your child's sick you don't hear what is your insurance status first. you want to hear "please take care of my child." we have to look at this in the framework what is medicine here to do? it is here to save lives, prevent disease, save lives, improve the quality of life, and nowhere in that is, should finances be the front line. we do manage to do this in a productive way. people talk about the cost, you know, but we're already spending $2.5 trillion a year on this process, so anything that we can do to lower, to improve what our
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primary mission is, to save lives, should be the front goal. >> i know that people are working on it and we've got a lot of bills that are in the works now. i wish we had more time to talk but ross isaacs, thank you for your time. >> sure. when this young man lost his legs he gained a whole new perspective on the health care system and making sure that others like him aren't shut out of the reform process. - hello. - hi! i'm finally going to get a flat panel for my home theater. - ( cheering ) - ( laughs ) thank you. what should i get? uh, you.
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on wednesday this week, the big health care story on capitol hill was senator max baucus releasing his compromise proposal. >> yes, but on that same day there was another health care story happening on the hill of vital sporns to 2 million americans and that is a push for insurance companies to drop the caps on prosthetics. cnn's brooke baldwin puts a face on the issue. >> men and women, young and old, who have come here to washington
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wanting change when it comes to the nation's health care and they say arms and legs are not a luxury. >> good to see you. >> reporter: as the debate over health care reform rages on in washington. >> college let you off? >> i had to come up to washington. >> reporter: 20-year-old jordan thomas is fighting for a cause close to home. jordan is a bilateral amputee, lost his legs in a boating accident when he was just 16. >> my dad jumped in the water immediately and held me afloat and i remember looking at him and saying, dad, my feet are gone. >> reporter: during his recovery, jordan met children whose parents unlike his couldn't afford expensive prosthetics. >> my legs are $24,000, a lot of companies put $5,000 cap for example and you have to pay the rest. >> reporter: the then 16-year-old started the jordan thomas foundation raising money to help disadvantaged kids like noah, get the prosthetics they need. you like the knee?
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>> yeah. >> reporter: how does it work? just like that? >> yeah, and you can do this. watch. >> reporter: taking noah's story to the next level. so what are you doing, pounding down the doors? >> trying to get a hold of some of them and just raising awareness. that's the thing about the whole amputee deal is it's not a red state or blue state deal. it's an ethical deal. >> reporter: jo are dan is taking his hard-hitting questions. >> what do you do to ensure the amputees have access to the best possible people for them to provide prosthetics? >> reporter: hoping lawmaker also listen and follow through. >> there's an awareness level that is hugely raised when someone like him is here. >> reporter: joining jordan, dozens of amputees, taking their message to the u.s. senate, the same day that senator max baucus released his road map to health care reform. >> we want legislation that will eliminate the caps so that
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amputees across the united states have access to the types of devices that allow them to function every day. >> reporter: there are 2 million amputees nationwide. jordan is simply one of them. taking on congress, step by step. >> it's just a no brainer. >> amputees nationwide will have to wait to see if there's any language in the proposed health care bill that will include full coverage for people with prosthetics. in the meantime they're hoping that will raise awareness. t.j., betty? >> and "your bottom line" is coming up. the colorado man federal investigators have been questioning in an alleged terror plot had video of new york's grand central terminal and they said najibullah zazi admitted ties to al qaeda but has yet to be arrested. new video of a

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