>> that's going to do it for us tonight. happy thanksgiving, everybody. thanks for being with us. "larry king live" starts right "larry king live" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: tonight -- jack hanna is back. >> these are poisons on his ears. >> larry: with his menagerie of gila monsters, freakiest and friendliest features. plus, we'll relive one of our finest or fondest animal moments, pikachus and camels are coming your way next on "larry king live"!

>> larry: this is -- i'm in the spirit. this is an annual event that i always look forward. jack hanna, the director emeritus host of "jack hanna wild" on tv. we do it around the holiday season. we start with a camel? >> yeah >> larry: we have never started with a camel. >> i like your jacket. >> larry: i'm hip, huh. tell us about this camel? >> this is a dromedary camel. it's the oldest animal in the world. thousands and house to of years. they raise them. the camel can survive in deserts, several weeks without water. the fat is stored in its hump.

some people think it's water. animal has two eyes, two eyelids so the sand doesn't get inside their eyes, or their ear drums. for a person that have camels in the middle east, by the way, all camels are mostly domesticated. this is one hump for a dromedary camel and two humps for the camel. it's used for transportation. it's used for food if the camel dies. that fur is used for coats. they're used for knitting needles, weapons. even the dung, the poop, how are you going to cook a steak out in the woods? you take the dried feces, and

you light it and cook your food. did you ride a camel? >> larry: i did. >> did your legs get sore >> larry: yes. how's things going? >> traveling to malaysia and africa. and just got back from rwanda. >> larry: did you ever think about retiring? now, we have a bush baby. >> this is a bush baby. >> larry: that mean it lives in the bush? >> on his shoulder. >> larry: okay. >> larry, is this a bush baby. we filmed the bush baby in africa. it's nocturnal. you see the eyeballs at nighttime out in the trees. they're not really big trees. they're pollenated, they defecate and pollenates is what it does.

the push babier it's amazing mechanism. in the daytime, they sleep. what do they do? they sleep in a big ball, like 30 or 40 of them all together get in a big ball together like this, looks like a big blob. therefore, predators like birds of prey -- are you comfortable? >> larry: yeah, he's light. >> larry, this is a presimien, by the way. look at the hands on this. you see on larry's shoulder, little hands. just like your hands. an incredible shot. if you can get the hands of this animal. i love the bush baby. >> larry: there he is, wow. they grip, too. >> look at those hands. look at this. just like your hands. isn't that amazing. "national geographic" again. >> larry: we have great shots on this show. and now the world's favorite, i think, the penguin. >> yes. this is gray stafford from the wildlife zoo in phoenix,

arizona. >> larry: hey, hey. it's okay, jack, it's a penguin. what's the story with the penguins, and why do we love them so much? >> what is it about a penguin, they're black and white. you've seen "march of the penguins." >> larry: great movie. >> some people don't know this, out of 17 species of penguins, only five live in cold water. this is great in cold weather, it would only last a few days. but the ones in the "march of the penguins" those can last. the female lays the egg. immediately, the male comes and sits on it. the female leaves and goes out to sea. she leaves him there for 40 days, while she goes out and messes around in the ocean and eats fish and everything. can you imagine that, the poor guy is not dead.

sitting on the chick. >> larry: how did they get that setup? >> i don't know. >> larry: not fair, protest. >> when we film these, larry, it's very difficult under water. they're black and white, they're like a bullet underwater. so difficult to film. >> larry: they're adorable. >> no one has ever eaten a penguin. out in the antarctica, they tried to eat a penguin, and it didn't work. i go to the antarctic. >> larry: they don't eat them because they don't taste good? >> exactly. >> larry: and this segment is a serbo, am i pronouncing that right? >> right. >> larry: i wouldn't let him come near me. >> this is a cat from mohr park

college here. larry, this is a serbo cat from africa. you don't see these cats very often. this cat was found up in egypt, if you ever watched "discovery" or "national geographic," you'll see the cat drawing on their mummies or the pyramids. it was a regal animal. it's one of the few cats in the world that can jump and catch a bird in free flight. six or eight feet in the air. isn't it magnificent? >> larry: magnificent is the right word. >> look at the back of the ears. you see those ears? those are called eye spots. this cat is eating something, a hyena or something, they would think that the cat is looking backwards. >> larry: those are built in? >> exactly. the legs are different lengths.

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>> larry: we're back with jack hanna's big night here on "larry king live." our first segment was titled "africa." this is called "birds. "this is a cuckaburrow. what exactly is a cuckaburrow? >> this is from my good friend's country, australia. it's camouflage and sits on a tree. you don't ever see it. it eats snakes and frogs and that type of thing. it's got a sound. i don't know if i can get it to do this. larry, tell me -- >> larry: well, we can't top that. good night. >> larry, i'm sorry, this makes my day, it really does. i can't believe he did this perfectly. that's a perfect cuckaburrow call. when you're out back in australia and nighttime, you hear that, and you don't know what it is, let me tell you

something, what is that. >> larry: you're not kidding. >> that's how they call each other. it's called a laughing cuckaburrow. >> larry: i've got birds right behind me. >> larry: that was good. >> just replay it. >> larry: these are the biggest and smallest owls, right? >> larry, i've never done this before ever. this shocked me. this is susan my wife, i thought she was going to bring an animal out. >> larry: this is your wife? >> this is my wife. >> larry: i thought you didn't know. >> i didn't know she was going to do this. this is the largest animal in the world, the largest owl in the world. what sue has is the smallest owl in the world, a screech owl. there are many different types of owls throughout the world. i'm going to ask you a question what animal is found on every

continent in the world except for antarctica? >> larry: don't tell me an owl. >> an owl, exactly. let me show you something, larry. people ask, why does he turn his head that way. the eyes are so big. i was going to say if i see pretty girl, you can take your eyes without moving your head, right. the owl, he cannot do that. with his eye socket, he cannot turn his eyes. isn't that amazing. the ears are faced like this, like a cup. so this owl -- neither one of them -- this is the owl that likes the insects, too. this owl, if he's out for a mouse or rat in this room, he can hunt in that location without seeing it. that's why they call it the wise old owl because of its senses. its brain, larry, is very small. how much do you think an owl weighs? >> larry: 35 pounds. >> i'm not laughing at you. >> larry: yes, you are. what does it weigh?

>> only 2 pounds. it's all feathers and hollow bones. can you imagine this. >> larry: my goodness. >> look at this, larry, it just appears inside. >> larry: okay, wise old owl. the american bird. the bird that salutes this country. you don't see many of them. i was driving in montana once with ted turner and we saw one fly, and he went nuts. a bald eagle. >> every time i see a bald eagle, they're coming back again because of the species. melanie from the beautiful farm there, the jacksons, they rescue bald eagles from not just alaska but this country. this is a big alaska bald eagle. it's larger than the bald eagles that might live in america. >> larry: the bird of america? >> exactly.

a lot of eagles are shot thinking they may be a buzzard or something but they're an immature bald eagle. if that were a wild bird, larry, those talons would go through her skin, break her bones and in a second. the pressure on the arm is beyond anything you can imagine. >> i work out. >> look at that peek there. it's used for tearing. >> when he does that, what is he doing, is he refreshing herself? >> she's just getting comfortable on my arm. she's stretching out her wings like we stretch our arms. >> larry: i got to get one more. >> thank you. >> larry: and now we have a red-crested turacao. >> look at the colors on the

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they live in groups called a mob. this thing is full grown, larry, it can stand higher than you can. only a couple guys, one guy two years ago was killed in australia. you see the claw, the foot on the camera right there, see that right there? that thing becomes about eight inches long, larry. it's lethal. anybody corners a kangaroo, what he does, he reaches out like this, goes bang with his foot. the main means of defense, larry, if they're recorded. like a dog. >> larry: they go pretty fast, huh? >> up to 40 miles per hour. plus, larry, these animals are quite prevalent in australia. they're still raised for meat like cattle are. their speed is 30 feet in a hop. >> larry: 30 feet in a hop. the next is a spider monkey. >> this is anita jackson. this lady here is terrific, what they rescue. someone had this in a dumpster,

larry. tried to have it as a were pet. you can see the legs are crumbled up. they took his animal and raised it. no one wanted it, obviously, it was almost dying. people say a monkey is a pet. that's the worst thing you can possible do. they carry disease, they bite and it's against the law. >> larry: why the term "spider?" >> look at these hands and legs here. this is deformed, okay but a real spider monkey, his arms are like a big spider. he goes around, larry, like this, see this, he can swing, they can swing, larry, like 30, 40 feet from tree to tree, like a big spider in the air. don't have one as a pet. they're not good. >> larry: we're with jack hanna. animals from the desert are in the city. we'll be back with a porcupine and a gila monster after this. ♪

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>> larry: we're back. and this is an african porcupine. >> larry -- >> larry: these hurt? >> yeah, they hurt big time. where did david go? >> larry: he ran. >> don't let him -- just don't touch him. now, larry, one thing about this thing, they do not throw their quills. no porcupine throws their

quills. the american porcupine has a barb on the end of their quills. if he were to touch you, larry -- >> larry: he ain't going to touch me. >> -- if the quills come out, you could die from infection. you try to turn the porcupine over there, underneath the tummy there, it's very, very soft, that's how they attack. what they do, run around the porcupine and get him dizzy and he falls over. and that's how they attack the animals. these needles are used for knitting needles. they rattle the quills like a rattlesnake to keep the predator away. if they don't, if a lion comes up, you can imagine how hard it is to get out. >> larry: go, go. getting a little too close. >> thank you, david. i don't know how you pick that

up. >> larry: i give david a lot of credit. this is the scorpion. look at that. >> you are crazy. >> can larry hold it? >> larry: no! >> look at this here, buddy. this is an amazing creature. that is the biggest one i've ever seen, larry. there's a stinger right there? back here? see how he gets excited. they also glow in the dark, larry. these animals are eaten by the fake fox in america. they can eat the scorpion. this animal, larry, if you're allergic to bee stings can be lethal. it's a sting that can hurt you. put him on your jacket. i want to see him on your jacket? don't let him get near your ear. larry, look at that. that is cool. >> larry: cool for you. >> wow.

>> larry: next. the gila monster. >> this is the gila monster, and you find these out in the deserts of california -- >> arizona. >> larry: it's a lizard? >> it is. >> it's very poisonous. it's a neurotoxic poison, right, anita? >> exactly. they can go weeks without water. >> larry: do they live a long time? >> we don't know a whole lot about them in the wild. that's the crazy thing about them. >> larry, one thing to do, though, if the predators will come, they'll turn that tail, toward the predator, he'll turn around, jerk it off and eat it until the predator runs away. >> that's true. >> i've never seen the mouth. can we get that on camera? >> those are the venom sacks.

>> he doesn't have fangs, he chews. >> he's not a human. small prey. >> look at this, larry. see the sex on the side there. that's looks like he can use a dentist. one more on the segment. one of the favorites, return of the finick fox. >> this animal lives in the sierra desert. there's no water out there. snake, farms, dogs, anything this animal will eat. the ears are obviously for hearing, they're mainly for keeping cool. the elephant, out in serengeti plains, he can get there, it's

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>> larry: we're in the rain forest with jack hanna on "larry king live." and a hungry ocelot. >> larry, you may have heard about the ocelot. >> larry: it smells a little

weird. >> it's a urine smell that they have to mark their territory. the ocelots were sold in the '60s as a lot of pets. they're endangered now where it was in the '60s and '70ss where it wasn't in the '80s. larry, look at that coat. absolutely gorgeous. now, obviously, coats, they can now make the fake furs which is much, much better on everybody. ocelots, larry, you smell that odor. the ocelot is nocturnal, and notorious for finding birds. i've only seen them twice maybe in all of my years in central and south america because they're difficult to find right now. they're a solitary cat. they're not a social cart like a lynne, they're a solitary cat. it represents, like the jaguar for example in of south america,

the ocelot is next. which kind this here? >> a jofferey. >> larry: what's that? >> a primate? see the meal worms. they're babies, larry, don't even weigh -- they're big as your finger. they're social creatures. it has a beautiful head on it. beautiful big head. these are great pollenators. you talk about pollenators. they pollenate like birds. >> larry: this full grown? >> this is full grown. there's quite a few. crested tammerens. look at it. almost like a haircut. a mohawk.

>> larry: i like that look. now, we have frogs from three rain forests. >> oh, yes. put your hands up here where the cameras can see it. open your hands. the one in the middle looks like a toy. which one is this one? >> a red-eyed tree frog. >> from where? >> south america. >> look at the color of that frog. see that right there. turn around a little bit, see his head. that's a tree frog. look at that, larry, look at this frog here. what is that? a leaf frog from malaysia. this is where i'm getting ready to go, larry. look at the head on that one. look at that. does that look like a leaf to you or what? >> larry: sure does. looks like a leaf. >> look at this here. >> larry: what is this? >> a rain toad. a cane toad. this is the one that you know

who jumped on your son, this is the much bigger one. these are poisonous behind his eyes there. that's a neurotoxic poison. >> larry: we're going to show chance jumping from this. >> larry let me tell you real quickly -- >> larry: from the son to the father. >> it's not going to hurt you, larry. just don't touch it. this frog was brought over from south america to control the rats and mice in the sugar cane fields. the frog has bred so much, it's taking it out of control. >> larry: go, go, go, go elsewhere. >> larry, he's not going to hurt you. look at this one. >> larry: okay. he wraps himself in knot or something. >> larry: slimy. >> they bury themselves in the earth to keep themselves moist

or something. you want to touch it? >> larry: yeah. >> you can wash your hands later. isn't that weird? >> larry: ♪ jeremiah was a bull frog he was a good friend of mine ♪ you see, i'm in that kind of mood. >> this is the kinkajou, larry. it's from south america. it was sold in pet trade in the 1960s. that's not allowed. that fur is so thick, larry, a bee sting couldn't get in front of you. it's from central and south america. beautiful animal. >> larry: we got a real screamer for you. no kidding, next.

now, the wetlands, the swamps and the marshes. and we start with the spoonville. appropriately named. >> yeah, look at that bill, everybody. isn't that amazing. just like a spoon. the rosy spoonbill, from where, anita? >> the caribbean. >> the caribbean. you see the birds flying and nesting. they're beautiful pink animals. they come and nest at night. a spoonbill, you can see in the water there, they can take that bill and scoop up fish and everything. eat it on the bottom if they want to feed. it's a very good tool for the spoonbill. you can almost feel how soft his beak is.

you see his legs there, he's not a bird of prey where the animal has strong talons. it's more for balance. they turn real pink, to. >> larry: and now the next builder of dams, the beaver. >> people ask what was the worst fight i ever had, on the david letterman show in 1996, the beaver almost took my thumb off. >> larry: i told you, he building another dam. >> i don't want to show you the teeth. but they're big teeth, buddy. they're very important. a lot of people in montana, you've been in montana, i'm sure. don't like them to be there because he dams uprivers and fishes. they're very important for making ponds and certain lakes if they're in the right place. the beaver is still trapped for, obviously, its pelt there. i don't know if you can see the tail or not. that tail is used as a warning signal for all other animals as well. if that beaver knows something alarms it, it will slap its tail. if you ever saw a cute little

beaver, they're as cute as they've ever could be. in a beaver home, they're just a neat, neat creature, larry. if you ever see baby beavers and a mom, it's incredible. the worst bite i ever had was by a beaver. look at the back foot. it's like a duck's foot. >> larry: yeah, it is. >> look at that back foot. isn't that amazing. >> larry: here comes the screamer. >> what is this thing? >> that's actually a good question, they're from argentina. >> i've never seen one of these. >> that is a big question about them, what exactly is this bird. this bird looks kind of like a vulture. has the long legs like a stork, but they're most closely related to a duck. >> larry: a duck? who named them the screamer? >> they're named after the sound they make, a wild screaming call that can be deafening, in the swamps, they'll scream to

attract a harem of females. >> larry: i'd do the same thing. >> once they do that, they protect them with these. they actually have weapons that have spurs on their wings. see these spurs -- >> look at this, larry, i've never seen this. look at this spur. look at that. >> larry: yeah, a spur. as beautiful. >> oh, shoot. you got it again. >> that is sharp. if don't believe me eat >> larry: eat some corn and get out of here. >> i think he likes corn. >> larry: i do, do. now, we have a water monitor. this is like in school. go out and monitor the water. what is that coming out of his mouth. >> the wildlife world zoo, in phoenix, arizona. the brand in new aquarium, only aquarium in that part of the

world. look at this. this is a savannah water monitor. larry, look at his tongue. what he's doing, he's stealing your attention right now. you don't want to do that. act like you're not nervous. better. do this, larry. it feels good. just touch the hand, just one. if you ever licks you, just try it. >> larry: it's not poison? >> no -- well -- >> larry: well, don't say well. you try it. >> put it like that, larry, do you see that? >> larry: yeah, did i see it? >> do you feel it? >> larry: yeah. a kim mode da dragon will bite you. the bite isn't what's going to kill you. this animal will track you for days with that tongue. do you like this animal like i do. this is the biggest one i've ever seen. >> larry: let's get in the alligator. two little alligators. wait a minute, i said little.

>> is it a little one? holy mackerel, larry, wow, wee. larry, have you ever seen an alligator that close? >> larry: no, i've never seen that many teeth. >> watch this. if they can show us on the camera, he's got two eyelids. watch this. see that. he can see you under water. he also hunts as our good cove vags steve irwin told us, he knows a lot about the crocodile. those are sensors, they pick up vibration. if something's swimming in the water two miles away, they can feel it like sonar in the water. >> larry: are these babies? >> this a baby alligator right here? >> uh-huh. >> and that's also a little baby, right? >> uh-huh. >> this is probably a year ago, a year 1/2 old, this is how

would, david? >> 25. >> they can outrun a man. can you open his mouth? >> sure. >> you can? >> yeah. look at this, larry. we'll open his mouth here. be careful, i want you to look down his throat, larry. don't put your head in there. you see the flap there. you see that. >> larry: can we get it on camera, that's interesting. he can biting without getting water down his throat. he can chew. >> larry: around we annoying him doing this. >> no, he's used to it. >> larry: guess what, the holiday season, a reindeer, is it donner, is it cupid, is it blitzen? i'm a grown man, what am i talking about? and its all-wheel drive... ... handling even the toughest conditions... is just another day at the beach.

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with everyone from the vice president to katie couric. but the only problem is, they were not on the guest list. how could this happen inside what should be the most secure building in the country? we'll dig deeper with the reporter who broke the story and former president bush's home land security adviser. and also the president's decision to send 30,000 more troops to afghanistan. plus, black friday bargains worth waiting for. all tonight on "360." >> larry: as ed sullivan used to say, get all the kids up close now, here he is, or she is, olive. representing the rudolph song "olive the other reindeer." >> they're raised and also called a caribou. it's important to know that. anita does a great job with this animal. the female and male, one effort

few deer species that both have antlers. both the male and female. she loses the antlers after the male. >> larry: is that a she? >> that's a she, yes. you've heard of rudolph the red-nosed reindeer? >> larry: heard of him, yeah. >> the reason they go click, click, click, those feet have cartilage in them. every step, it talks. it's not the roof. this is the female, really rudolph could have been, right, anita, a female? >> uh-huh. >> because the male had already lost his antlers. that's just a tale. i want all the kids to think this is one of santa's reindeer and she'll have to go back and get ready for christmas. >> larry: get ready, rudy. >> by the way, larry, they have a nose that's soft as cotten and helps them eat like lichen on

rocks. >> larry: this is the official bird of south africa. the stanley crane. >> it's like the crowned crane, the official bird of uganda. beautiful bird, larry. these birds have long legs, obviously. you knee that knee there, that's their ankle there in the middle of their leg there. these birds love to eat fish and things like that, larry. they get under the water, not deep. >> larry: the next guest is low on nature's love scale. stick around. wow, is this... fiber one honey clusters? yes.

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>> larry: another different kind of porcupine here, who also attacked melanie. >> i want people to see what i'm talking about. the african porcupine that you saw earlier does not have a

barb. i'm pull thing very hard right here. that was in her skin right there. take these home to your sons and let them fight each other. just kidding. >> larry: they will. why was this porcupine different from the other, which was biger? >> the african porcupine is much, much bigger. this is a north american porcupine. that looks like soft fur, doesn't it? there's the quills under there. >> larry: hidden quills. >> there's a barb there. so the minute you touch this animal to try to eat it, that will come off in their mouths or hands and they die of infection. >> larry: and it also has a funny smell. let's meet the striped skunk. here comes the striped skunk. >> skunks are an animal -- see the tail goes up, right?

>> larry: does that mean he's going to smell? >> it could be. i want to encourage people not to ever try to pick up a baby skunk. number one, they'll get sprayed. and they carry the rabies virus. animals that could have -- don't show symptoms have carry the virus. rabies is still prevalent in our country. so you take tomato juice all over you and it will help get rid of the smell. some dogs that never seen a skunk, how they run from it and they've never seen one. >> larry: here we have, last one in this segment, the turkey vulture. >> look at the wingspan on this, larry. that's beautiful. look at that. this is from moorpark college.

the vulture, look at the head of the vulture. it's bald for one reason only. bacteria cannot grow on that, so that's why he has a bald head. the wings go out from four to six feet. a turkey vulture can soar for days without flapping their wings. it's a very important animal to nature. >> larry: we saved the best for last, cockroaches. they're next. ♪

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>> larry: earlier we showed you a cane toad. if you missed the episode a couple of years ago, chance king was on with his brother, cannon. here's what happened with the cane toad. >> don't touch this one. this is a cane toad, everybody. there's a poison gland. will he shop right here? this is a cane toad. those right here are poison glands. this toad came over from south america, it's causing a lot of deaths with dogs. these are poison glands back here. >> get away from me. ahhhh! >> larry: it's okay. >> it's a toad. i don't blame you.

chance, i don't like them either. chance is good. >> larry: that's historic, folks. bring on the coke roaches. >> put that on larry's jacket. that's a nice one there. don't let him get in your hair, because he'll lay eggs. but he's okay right now. >> larry: he will lay eggs? how can you tell? >> let him go down his shirt, he's all right. he's gone now. that's pretty cool. >> larry: where he is? >> he's down your shirt. >> larry: get him out of my shirt. >> just reach down his jacket there. get the thing. you got him? oh, good. >> larry: i didn't want to go home with that. cockroaches, they are unusual, right? >> they say they could attack nuclear attacks but this is from

madagascar, the madagascar hissing roach. hear it? hear that? >> larry: yeah. >> i go to a restaurant by myself, i take them, they serve me my salad and bread and i put them in the basket and they ask me, how is your dinner? i say good, but you got cockroaches and i get a free steak dinner. >> larry: jack! one more. and this is? as stan used to say, the deadly tarantula. that could kill, right? >> put him on his image again. >> larry: no! >> he can't kill you. >> larry: they got a bad image.

>> people shouldn't just kill these when you see them in the desert. is that neat or what, larry? you are a brave man. >> larry: what am i going to do? i'm afraid to move. >> what happens is if you touch them, they shed their hairs there and it makes you itch a lot. so just wash the jacket. put it in your washer when you get home or here at the station. and they have little pinchers and plus, larry, when it sheds its shell about twice a year, he crawls out of his entire shell and it looks like a tarantula sitting there and yet he's over there. i don't know how they do that, how they leave a perfect shell and he lives over here. that really matches. >> larry: we are out of time. i'll close with him. we're out of time, but we still got more animals. head to our website, cnn.com/larryking and you'll see a web extra with jack