hello, everyone. a break news story we are are following on this christmas day. an incident on a plane from amsterdam to detroit today. we have found out that the

president has been briefed and homeland security speaking out about what was a disturbing and confusing incident on the northwest flight today. the plane was at the end of the journey from amsterdam and landing in detroit when this all happened. a lot of new details coming in within the last hour. kate bolduan has been on the story for us all day since has happened. what is the latest? >> well, bear with me, t.j., because i am going the read a little bit because we are getting new information from a source in detroit. i will give you a couple of lines and then some background here. this is a federal bulletin that has been obtained by cnn, and we are told that the passenger we have been talking about on this flight from amsterdam to detroit is a nigerian national, and the bulletin says that this person has been taken into custody and has been taken to a hospital to be treated for burns received from the explosion. it goes on to say, and i will

read what this bulletin says, the suspect is claiming to have extremist affiliation, and that the device was acquired in yemen and with instructions of when this should be used. this is the latest we are getting, but i am reading. let me go back and give you the background of all of the updates that we have. the white house says that president obama has been notified of the incident at detroit metro airport, and president obama held a conference call subsequently with the national security team instructing that all appropriate measures to be taken to increase security for air travel. this is the background, according to a delta spokesman, a passenger on this northwest flight 253 caused what they called a disturbance and initial reports are that the passenger had ignited firecrackers ooet ore in detroit or just on approach.

it was around noon local time according to the national transportation board, and they say that all passengers were removed and as a precaution, the plane was removed from the tarmac, and all bags are being rescreened. only two passengers received minor injuries as well as the passenger who is in custody. we know that, and the fbi confirms they are on the scene kin vest ga investigating. i will continue the read more and have more for you, t.j. >> i know you read it, and said it, but the bulletin said the word explosion, and maybe not a major one, but somewhere in there you were reading used the word explosion, but we were talking about firecrackers earlier and said this is an incident where somebody is behaving badly and doing something stupid, but that jumps out that they would use the word explosion, kate? >> well, looking at this again,

i want to read more and i'm sorry that i am having to read this to you, t.j. >> no, no, that is fine. >> well, they said that some type of small explosive device had detonated inside of the passenger cabin and that in flight, there was and in-fligh indicator that declared an emergency due to fire indicator light that had gone off. we are getting more detail. as usual with these fluid situations, it is a little unclear, and we will clear it up and come back to you. >> thank you so much. you have been on the story for us all day and getting the details on a fast-moving and developing story. kate, thank you so much. we will continue to follow that breaking news story here at cnn. stay with us, and as we get more details we will jump in and pass them on to you, but for now i will hand it over to "larry king live."

larry: tonight, a prime-time exclusive with the jacksons, jermaine, marlon, jackie, and tito, they're all here. ♪ jackson street >> there you go. >> larry: they'll tell us how the family dynasty is doing since michael's death, now five months ago. what his kids are up to. and how they're moving on in the face of tragedy. >> doing as best as you can expect when you lose a parent. >> larry: next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening, we welcome jermaine, jackie, tito, and marlon jackson. the only member of the jackson five not here is brother michael. five months, and hard to believe so quick. fife months since he died. where first, germane, where is randy? >> well, randy is probably in

monaco where we should be right now. >> any reason he is not part of the reality show? >> well, he is just dealing with the estate and we love him and we welcome him. >> he has elected not to participate, so we respect his decision, but he is still our brother. >> do you hope he will make an appearance down the line? >> we hope so. he is with us on the music and the records and he is a little shy about the camera thing. >> he just doesn't like the personal appearances, but we are waiting for that to happen. >> does it seem like five months, marlon? >> no, it doesn't seem like five months. and the thing about it is that i think that for myself and i can only speak for myself, i am learning to deal with my brother's passing and everyday i say to myself, that i cannot believe my brother is not here.

>> larry: where were you when he died? >> i actually was in georgia when he had passed. >> larry: and they phoned you? >> actually, no. actually, i got a phone call from a friend of mine who said, is your brother all right? i said, what are you talking about? he was rushed to the hospital. as i was calling my brothers, calling my mom, my daughter downstairs said, dad, uncle michael's dead. >> larry: that had to be unbelievable, right? >> that was unbelievable. >> larry: where were you, tito? >> actually, i was at home doing some work and one of my sons had called me and asked me, was it true what we're hearing about uncle michael. i said, what is it that you're hearing? he said that they just rushed him to the hospital. so i immediately tried to tune into "cnn headline news" and had learned that on my way, i called my mom and she said, you guys better get down here. so on the way there, janet had called me and said, tito, are you driving?

i said, yes, i am. she said, pull over. and when she said that, i knew something was drastically wrong. and i pulled over and she broke the bad news to me. >> larry: jackie, how'd you learn? >> i was at the venetian hotel with jermaine's two kids, shopping. i was just looking at a monitor where michael shops and buys all his luggage and things like that and souvenirs. and we were just looking at it, and all of a sudden, someone passing said, michael jackson died -- or someone passing me said that. and i said, no way. so i walked outside and i got a phone call from my mom. and she told me, it's true. >> larry: and jermaine, i know we've asked you before, but just for the benefit of those who didn't see it, where were you? >> well, my first -- i was on the other side of pasadena. my first phone call was you guys. >> larry: you found out from cnn? >> i found out from cnn. and i just said, i'm going to call my mother right away. so, i called my mother, she said she was on her way to the hospital. within 45 minutes passed, janet -- i spoke to janet and i spoke

to our attorney, joe katz, and the next thing i knew, and i called my mother back, and to hear her voice, she was at the hospital, and she said, he's dead. just a horrible tone in her voice. >> larry: were you all very close, jackie? >> yes, we were very close. despite michael travels a lot and he does his own thing, but we're all close. very close. >> larry: and despite his fame, tito, there was no jealousy or anything? >> none, whatsoever. because we're all brothers and we all reared together. >> it was the jackson five platform that launched all the individual careers. michael's, janet's, ours. it was the jackson five. >> i think what people don't understand, the camaraderie amongst the brothers began back in the early '60s when we began to -- before we came to motown, traveling to the apollo, new new york in the volkswagen van, the ford truck with our equipment, and there was a bond that was

born amongst the brothers at that time. because we were all trying to make it, you know, striving, trying to make things happen. >> larry: we'll ask you about the reality series in a moment, but as any fan of the jackson five knows, the group left motown for cbs and that was in 1976. except for jermaine, he stayed at motown. here's a clip from "the jacksons: a family dynasty," it's going to premiere next sunday, about that breakup. watch. >> the reason why i stayed -- the reason -- this really hurts. >> don't worry about it. >> the reason why i stayed in motown, because motown introduced us to the world as the jackson five and to be told that you can go to cbs and we're going to make you like the beatles, we're the jackson five, and that's all i wanted.

so, the fact that we started there, just there to be loyal to where we started. >> when you came back to the group, it was one of the best, favorable memories of my life. >> really? >> yeah. >> larry: you seem you're still bitter over that, jermaine, or sad. >> it was sad, because being alone and not knowing where they were and not having that connection and then the fans were like, treating me a bit different by saying, oh, you left the group, we don't want your autograph and that kind of stuff. but the love that i've had for them and they've had for me has never changed. >> larry: how did the brothers -- how did this whole thing come back, jackie, this reality show? whose idea was this? who put it together? >> well, jermaine came to us and said there's a reality show on the table for us.

and we didn't know whether we wanted to do it or not, because it's a reality show. we've never done a reality show. >> jackie was very tough. >> larry: you didn't want to do it? >> i didn't want to do it, but jermaine said, this is something we must do. you know, give a chance for the world to see what we do at home. >> larry: what do they do to you? follow you around as a group or individually? >> they do a little bit of both. a little bit of both. and i told them, it's all fine, as long as they don't catch me coming in and out of the shower. >> larry: you glad you did it, marlon? >> yes, i'm glad. but, as you know, a little bit apprehensive about doing something of this nature, because there's a private side of your life that i strongly feel that the public is not entitled to. and that's not just with our family, that's with any family. so you let them inside your life, but there's a private, private side that -- >> larry: you have control of the edit? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> larry: we'll take a break and come back. lots to talk about. and don't forget, this show will

happy birthday, janet -- >> i just got a dog for my birthday -- i got a french bulldog, a female. >> you did? >> yeah. and i'm getting ready to go to the movies with austin.

>> oh, okay. well, happy birthday. >> we just wanted to say happy birthday. we love you. >> happy birthday. >> take care. >> love you, janet. >> love you, bye-bye. >> larry: who were you talking to? >> janet. >> that was janet. >> larry: little janet? >> yes. >> larry: by the way, i've got to check on this, how are michael's three kids doing, marlon? >> they're doing great, doing fine. they're doing as best as you can expect when you lose a parent. that's in any family, you deal with it. but now they're with all the nieces and nephews around there. they're all doing fine. >> larry: you see them a lot? >> oh, yes, every time we go to our mom's house, they're there having fun with the other kids and family. >> larry: how's your mom, jermaine, dealing with all of that? she's not the youngest person in the world to have three little ones around. >> no, but she loves the children being around, because all the kids are there -- we're all there all the time and my kids are there and the rest of the generation, they come by. she loves the noise.

it kind of reminds her of when we were young. so she loves it. >> and there's help there too. >> lots of help. >> larry: do they go to school without being bothered, jackie? >> they have home studies there at home. >> larry: they do? >> school is wonderful there. they have great teachers and they learn a lot there. they're having a good time. it's good. >> larry: were the jacksons always a family that got together, kids with kids? >> yes. we got together with my kids, tito's kids hung out together. >> family day. >> yes, we had family day. so, we're no different than any other family. >> larry: and you had a decision to make about this reality series, and you may have been the most hesitant, jackie, of giving up your privacy. i think you were the most hesitant. >> i'm a pretty private person. >> larry: i could tell that. >> yeah. i'm very private, very quiet. i like it that way. i don't like to be in the spotlight, you know, i like to be behind the scenes, more or less. >> larry: so? >> jermaine loves the spotlight. >> no, i don't.

>> he loves it. >> though, no, no. >> but that's a good thing. >> larry: needs someone to love it. >> it's a good thing. he is what he is. i am who i am. >> i don't like the spotlight, larry. you know that. the light just finds me. >> see, see! >> larry: you opened your refrigerator those ten minutes. tito, do you get into the swing of it, forget cameras are there? >> pretty much. after a while, it was a little rough in the beginning, knowing there's a camera, but i'm now pretty used to it. >> larry: how long are you committed to it for? >> i'm sorry? >> larry: how long are you committed to the show? >> we did the five episodes, the five one-hour episodes. >> larry: that's all it's going to be? >> right now. >> larry: what if they want more? >> then we have to sit down and talk. sit down with the brothers. >> back to the drawing board. >> larry: oh, good luck. we've got another clip from "the jacksons: a family dynasty."

this deals with the aftermath of michael's death. watch. >> a great experience of carrying my brother and all the brothers carrying him. if i had to carry him for like 100 miles, i would do it, you know. >> whether you're feeling good or bad, you start thinking about that he's not here and it just overwhelms you with sorrow. >> i don't think people will ever understand the loss of michael as a brother for me versus a pop star. losing a sibling is devastating. >> michael was a bright light that's been shining our whole lives, and we don't feel that the light is turned off, we just feel that the light is brighter, really, because the legacy lives on and his spirit is very much alive. >> larry: how many children do you guys have? how many do you have, jermaine? >> ask marlon first.

>> jermaine has a nursery. >> larry: how many do you have, marlon? >> i have three kids and two grandkids. >> larry: you're a grandfather? >> yes, i'm a grandfather. >> larry: you look like a kid. you have three. all right. tito? >> three and three grandkids as well. >> larry: jackie? >> two kids. >> larry: jermaine? >> three plus four. >> larry: three plus four, that's seven. seven or five? >> that he know of. >> larry: so, there's 15 kids. do they all get along? >> yes -- our kids? yes. >> larry: randy has kids as well. and randy has kids. >> right. >> larry: there's a lot of jacksons. >> a whole lot of jacksons. >> larry: do a lot of them have talent? >> oh, yes. >> larry: we're going to be hearing from the jacksons forever? >> forever. thank you. >> larry: we'll be back in 60 seconds with the jacksons. and traverse beats honda on highway gas mileage too.

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efforts to produce a 40th anniversary album, that don't always go so well. take a look. ♪ >> this is a good roller skating song. ♪ >> tell you what, let's erase that. let's erase it. >> i would do that. okay. you want to start over? >> let's erase it and start over. >> jackie say kill it. i'm not saying nothing. >> yeah, jackie told me to start a new session -- >> who?! >> we scratched everything. >> who told you to do what? >> jackie told me to do that. >> you mean you erased everything? >> yeah. >> marlon, what happened? >> what do you mean what happened? >> what happened with jackie?

>> ask your brother. >> you sat right here -- >> why did you let him do that? >> to be honest with you all, the track ain't happening. i'm not even feeling the track. >> from what i heard, it was great, and jermaine, you sounded good singing it, but it didn't sound like the jackson five. it sounded like a solo record. it didn't have that jackson five magic. >> larry: boy, i love this. this is going to be a hit. we will be right back with more of the jacksons. don't go away. gecko: all righ. gecko: good driver discounts. now that's the stuff...? boss: how 'bout this? gecko: ...they're the bee's knees? boss: or this? gecko: sir, how 'bout just "fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance." boss: ha, yeah, good luck with that catching on! anncr: geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

♪ time is right for you and me

to be alone finally ♪ >> the energy level is poor. hey, you guys got to listen to me. you ain't going to get it right because i hear what you guys are doing. i'm just telling you. do you want me to produce you or what? you ain't even listening. >> tito's a pain in the ass. i will tell you why, he is so tough. he's tough. >> it sounds thin. it sounds like the supremes instead of the jacksons. >> what? what? what? what? >> you guys sound like the supremes in there. >> shut up. >> larry: this show can't miss. marlon, does your mother have anything to do with the show? >> no, my mom does not have anything to do with the show. she's going to do an appearance on the show, but -- >> larry: she will? we'll actually see kathleen? she appears nowhere. >> yes, she made some appearances on the show. >> larry: you taped it already? >> yes. >> larry: what about your dad? >> the hulk -- >> larry: that's what you call him? >> yes. >> larry: he does not appear on the show? >> not yet. >> larry: we have an e-mail question from sarah in green castle, indiana.

she asks, "will the jackson family reality show feature from the family's private services for michael? or will you give us more details about what happened at that private service?" >> we can give you more details, but it was basically just a private ceremony for the immediate family. but we're not going to reveal any of that on the reality show, no. >> larry: was it very emotional, jackie? >> very, very emotional. to see your brother there in the casket, very emotional. >> larry: were there any other people there other than family? >> we had some close friends there, yes. >> larry: was it hard for you, marlon? >> it was hard for me, because you never expect to, actually, you know, bury your brother. >> larry: that don't happen. >> no, it just doesn't happen. >> larry: in an interview last month on abc, your sister, janet, spoke about michael's problems with drugs and the family's efforts to do something about it. watch and we'll get your comment.

>> was there a time as a family where you thought, we need to do something here? did you do anything? >> of course. that's what you do. those are the things that you do when you love someone. you can't just let them continue on that way. and we did, a few times. we weren't very successful. >> larry: tito, do you think you could have done more? >> well, you would always like to think that you could have done more. and we did all we could. >> larry: did you always know that he had a problem, marlon? >> no. being, you know, with the prescription drugs and doctors that did those things, no, we did not know that. >> larry: were you surprised when you learned it? >> very surprised to find that out. right away, we tried to comfort him and tried to support him on that, but it was kind of

difficulty, too. >> larry: any, at all, honestly, jermaine, guilt that you ever say to yourself, we should have done more? >> no. there's no guilt. i don't like the word "drugs." i think marlon said it best, without the drugs, there were prescriptions that weren't good for him. i just dislike the word "drugs." it's so vague, so broad. there's all types of drugs, but i'll say that michael's in safe keepings now. there was nothing that we could do. >> larry: do you have any anger at the doctors, marlon? must have some, i guess? >> there's an ongoing investigation, ongoing investigation, and until they know exactly what took place. because, yes, i strongly feel that some of these doctors just do things, you know, for the -- for themselves. >> larry, i'm -- i'll just say this.

i'm very upset to hear that this doctor is able to go back and practice medicine. >> larry: so far, no charges. >> no charges. >> larry: so far. >> and to take our brother's life and one of the biggest names in the world and he can go -- who is he going to practice on? he's been marked. but i'm just saying that i'm very disappointed, and they are too. he should not be where he is. he should be charged. >> larry: how's your mother feel about that? >> she's very devastated over it. you can see it in her face, constantly, all over again. she's torn apart over it. this was her son. >> i don't think any parent ever feels like they would live to see one of their siblings pass. >> larry: it's not supposed to happen. >> it's not supposed to happen. >> but as you and i know, tomorrow's not promised to any one of us. >> larry: we don't get it owed to us. >> right. sglshg.

>> larry: for the record, the attorney told us that "everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we're waiting for concrete facts to come from the lapd." we'll be right back.

♪ oh, baby, give me one more chance ♪ ♪ won't you please let me back into your heart ♪ ♪ i want you back yes i do now ♪ ♪ oh oh baby >> larry: what goes through you, jackie, when you see that? >> it just brings back a lot of

great memories. how hard we rehearsed for that. just to do that show. and it was a lot of fun. a lot of hard work. we worked hard, every single day. it was hard work. >> larry: what does it do when you see it? >> well, it brings back the same for jackie, old memories of all the hard work and effort and our dreams to accomplish them today, it makes me feel really good. >> larry: marlon? >> i think about we were doing it, because we loved doing it. we didn't realize exactly where it was going to take us. we enjoyed it. we all enjoyed doing it. we rehearsed relentlessly, but we enjoyed rehearsing. >> larry: jermaine, did you realize how much talent that little kid had? >> yes, yes. we realized it when we used to do live shows before this and michael used to do the splits and just do all kinds of things, just spontaneously, right. way back in indiana. >> larry: they've got a museum for him now in gary, indiana. your father, joe, has suggested

that michael's death involved foul play. your sister, la toya, voiced a similar opinion. here was la toya on "the view" in mid-september. >> i thought it was homicide. that he had been murdered. yes, absolutely. michael, continuously told me, la toya, if i die i'm going to be killed, they'll kill me over my publishing. and he was afraid of that. >> larry: what do you make of that, marlon? >> well, i think if you ask each one of the brothers or the sisters their opinion, you might get a different answer for everybody. >> larry: what's yours? >> my spn that i want to sit back and let them do their investigation and let it come out exactly what took place. i don't want to form an opinion, and one of the other brothers might have a totally different opinion. >> larry: do you think la toya may have made an opinion too soon? >> she may have, yes. >> larry: is that the way the family feels about it? and joe, too, then spoke too soon? >> yes. >> larry: was there jealousy of michael? >> no. >> larry: well, it's logical to think that. >> why?

>> a lot of people say that, ask us all the time. when i see my brother doing that, it makes me so proud of him, being one of the biggest artists in the world. breaking all records, the record sales, i'm so proud of him for doing that. that's hard to do, larry. that's hard work. his last name is jackson, right? >> that's right. >> as jermaine stated earlier on the show, the jackson five was the foundation. we worked relentlessly to build this name, to brand this name internationally. and as michael branched off and continued to even take it to another level with the last name, it just continued to brand the name, jackson. so, no, it's like a machine, we're all working together and some pieces just excel beyond others. >> larry: even when he got jermaine so famous. i mean, he went beyond fame. >> larry, that's our brother. we're happy. he was going to go further. and we were going to be more proud. he was going to go further. absolutely. >> larry: another surprising thing, we were with you the night of the premiere of the

film is what that film shows, and anyone who sees it would say this, what a great guy he was. >> he was, larry. >> larry: how encouraging he was of other talent. when that girl was kind of unsure of herself, he never makes her feel bad. >> he hates to hurt people's feelings. always feels love. >> that's who he was. >> who he was. from day one. >> larry: and also, pretty bright. marlon, i mean, this was not just a walk in the park. >> right. no. one of the things that the brothers had mentioned is that my mother and my father, at the time, the things that my father put us through as youngsters, we didn't realize -- >> larry: he was rough, right? >> he was rough. but think about it, six boys, you know, and in gary, indiana, where there's gangs and things of that nature. he made sure we stayed busy when he was away. we never realized what he was doing until we got older. and all those things that took place in gary, indiana, as you get older, you draw back on those things and there's some type of balance in your life.

and so, i feel that i'm no different than anybody else of my brothers, and i give my father credit for that. >> larry: were you ever resentful of your father, tito? >> never. because i think my father, he's not -- he didn't just prepare us for music, he prepared us for manhood, for life, and the things that he had us do at a child's age, you know, that was only a short period. but we're adults the rest of our lives. so he prepared me. >> larry: was he rougher on michael than the others, jackie? >> no, he wasn't. he could never catch michael. he was so fast michael goes under the bed and never comes out for about 15 minutes. and he would laugh at him. >> larry: so even though he was not a spare the rod, spoil the child kind of guy, right, you appreciated what he did then for you? >> absolutely. that's why we're here today. absolutely. we appreciate -- >> it was tough love. that's what it was.

>> a lot of our friends from gary aren't with us today. >> larry: it's a tough town. well said. more from the jacksons after this. way. ♪ and this is the chevy traverse. it has more cargo space than pilot. and traverse beats honda on highway gas mileage too. more fuel efficient and 30% more room. maybe traverse can carry that stuff too. now during the chevy red tag event, get an '09 traverse with 0 percent apr for 72 months. see red and save green. now at your local chevy dealer.

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>> larry: let's take a look at the jackson five in action back in the days when all of us were a lot younger. watch. ♪ ♪ abc, easy as 123 ♪ baby you and me ♪ easy as 1, 2, 3 ♪ do re mi ♪ abc, 1, 2, 3 ♪ baby you and me girl

♪ abc, easy as 123 ♪ baby you and me ♪ easy as 1, 2, 3 ♪ do re mi ♪ abc, 1, 2, 3 ♪ baby you and me girl >> larry: let's look at memories here, this is memory lane here. what kind of kid is your brother, marlon? >> michael and i were closest in age, the two youngest of the group and we hung out all the time and we used to play practical jokes on everybody. we used to get in the golf carts when our road manager and others would go play golf, we would wreck the golf carts. we just had so much fun. jermaine and michael used to put ice in people's shoes when they would leave them out. back in those days you could leave your shoes out and get them polished, shined up, and we would leave ice in them. >> larry: would you say he was a good kid, tito? >> he was an excellent kid. full of fun, love, and very musical, and his whole thing was bringing people together, giving

to the world, and trying to change the world, make the world a better place. that's what michael was. >> larry: he started to think that he was young, too? >> yes, even as a young man, even the songs he had written as a teenager, a young teenager, were all about changing the world and bringing people together. >> he studied walt disney. >> larry: he did? >> loved him. read all the books about walt disney. that's why he had an amusement park. he said one day when he was 10 years old, he said i'm going to have a disneyland in my backyard, and he did. >> larry: did the jackson five ever work disneyland? >> we played on the ship, pirates of the caribbean. >> we did a special with sandy duncan on the ship, pirates of the caribbean. >> larry: that must have been a hoot for him, then, huh? >> a hoot for all of us. >> he was a big dreamer, michael was. >> larry: what's going to happen to neverland, by the way? >> what we're planning on doing is keeping it exactly the way it was and just maybe, we have

other plans for it, but we're going to keep what he did, because that was his tomorrowland. >> larry: but it's not -- you're not going to let it just sit there, right? >> no, no. we've get some great ideas. >> larry: the most beautiful piece of property. >> oh, yeah, you saw it. >> larry: with you. we did that show. >> it's gorgeous. >> larry: and you can't just let that lie there, right, marlon? >> no. it's not. i think there are some ideas that people have been working on to bring neverland back to life. >> larry: what was the worst part? was there any downside to being famous early? >> for myself, i think one of the things, and motown prepared us for this, but everybody wanted a piece of you, everybody wanted to know your private life. and i think that was probably the worst part for myself. you know, being famous at an early age. >> larry: what was for you, jermaine? >> the downside? >> larry: nothing's perfect, so what was the downside? >> i don't remember any downside. we were prepared. we were taught to -- i mean,

berry gordy and so many people did an incredible job. >> just waking up so early in the morning. >> for jackie. >> preparing yourself, packing your luggage. sometimes you leave stuff. right? >> in hotel rooms. >> larry: did you tour a lot? >> oh, you kidding me? >> larry: a lot of one-night tours. ever forget what town you're in? >> all the time. >> jackie used to go on stage and say, hello detroit, and we would be in detroit. that is what he used to do. >> no, no. that's what he used to do. (announcer) they've been tested, built and driven like no other. and now they're being offered like no other. come to the winter event and get an exceptional offer on the mercedes-benz of your dreams. it's our way of showing a little holiday spirit. hurry before the offer ends january 4th.

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>> larry: was that hard to look at, tito? >> actually, this is the first i've seen of anything of the film, and that wasn't too bad, because it's michael's musical. >> larry: was it hard for you marlon? >> it's hard for me. >> larry: he died soon after, right? >> yes. you look at it and -- >> larry: he looked so good. >> i'm sorry? >> larry: he looked so good. >> he looks great. he looks great in the film, and you cannot believe he is not here with you anymore. >> larry: was it hard for you, jackie? >> i enjoy every bit of it. just seeing him doing his thing in the film. >> larry: you, jermaine? >> i was excited about seeing him preparing for what was going to be the most incredible show

and just to say he wasn't giving 30%, he was just going through the motions and make sure everybody else knew what they were supposed to do. >> larry: you mean, we didn't see the best? >> oh, no. >> no. >> no, no. >> just go through the motions. when you hit the stage, that's when you give the 2,000%. >> larry: that's the amazing thing about him. he was very shy, except when the light hit him, on stage. nothing shy. >> yes. >> larry: we'll be back with more. don't go away. national car rental knows i'm picky.

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it shows family harmony. >> larry: ever get back there? >> yes, we get back -- no, i didn't go, jermaine went back. >> it's tito and i that went back to gary. >> larry: jermaine, what's your favorite song? >> probably, "never can say good-bye." the lyrical content has nothing to do with what we're speaking about, but it was just those -- during that time when that song was out. >> larry: what did "2300 jackson street" sound like? ♪ 2300 jackson street >> larry: i want to hear it from the four of you. ♪ 2300 jackson street ♪ always home >> larry: give me a little. >> got to do this. >> larry: give me a little. i'll do it. >> you're doing the wrong beat. you got, one -- ♪ 2300 jackson street >> larry: ah, forget it. stop that.

jewish guy trying to do that. stop that. all right, something happened, jermaine, an upcoming episode of "the jacksons," we've got our spies. reunion is questioned after you failed to show up for a major photo shoot. what happened? >> well, what happened was, i was in vienna and i was working so hard. it was on a tribute. the tribute, and i got just so exhausted that i got -- my eyes were like as red as that band you have on your wrist there. they thought that i wasn't telling the truth. of course, the brothers didn't believe me, so they went on and did -- they went on and did the session. >> larry: photo session without you? >> yeah. i did mine out here pretty much. >> larry: you dubbed it in? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: were you mad at him? >> no. he said he was working hard. he was hardly work. >> then we finally did it together.

>> larry: were you mad, tito? >> no. it's all good. >> larry: were you mad? >> no, i was not mad at him. >> larry: who is the leader of the group? >> me. you don't ask it out openly. >> larry: let's put it this way. >> i got the final word. >> larry: let's say a financier comes along and he wants to build a jackson museum in dubuque. who does he talk to? >> jermaine. >> he talks to all of us. >> we'd sit down and talk about it amongst ourselves. >> larry: what if you vote and it's 2-2? >> no, but there's randy, too. >> larry: oh, yeah. >> you're going to have the swing vote. >> larry: are janet and latoya as close to you as you are to you? >> of course, of course.

>> absolutely. >> so the sisters are close? >> absolutely. >> larry: the tie is strongest to the mom, right? >> fell me about kathleen. i spoke to her on the phone once. >> she should be the mother of mothers around the world. she's an incredible human being and so nice, and we get all that niceness from her. sometimes we hate it -- >> we don't speak up for ourselves. she couldn't fire a maid. >> larry: how old is she now? >> she's 72. >> no. she's -- she's in her late 70s, i believe. let's put it that way. >> larry: healthy? >> very healthy. >> larry: we'll be back with our remaining moments with the jacksons after this.

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for me the gift of the music has been a blessing since i was a child. so i first of all would like to thank my parents who gave me that gift. >> larry: one more clip. it demonstrates that even though joe jackson may not be around, his influence is still felt. watch. >> tito, don't be real hard. just be normal. don't say do it ten times. >> i'm always hard? >> yeah, man. >> you all got to get this right. people are paying money for this music, you know? >> you're like joe jackson. >> i can't help it. i look like him. >> that's a jackson boy right there. >> just warming up. do it just like i taught you. >> tito. >> larry: is that your father's impact on all of you?

>> you just heard the boss speaking. >> larry: all right. are your parents anxious to see these, this series? they haven't seen it yet? >> they haven't seen it yet. >> they're seeing more now. >> this is my first time seeing some of the clips on the show. >> larry: where have you been, marlon? before we leave you, a lot of emotional moments during the public ceremony for michael jackson on july 7th at staples center. one of the most incredible afternoons of my life, probably the most touching, of course, when michael's daughter paris spoke about her father. watch. >> i just want to say ever since i was born daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine. and i just want to say i love him.

so much. >> larry: what did that do to all of you? >> it just breaks my heart. >> stabbed me right here. >> larry: you didn't know she was going to speak? >> no, we didn't. >> larry: how is she doing? >> she's doing great. she's doing fine. they're holding up. >> larry: who is the boss of the three? is it -- >> probably prince. >> larry: prince is. he's the oldest, right? >> he's wonderful. he loves computer. >> larry: what a family bond this is. the four of you ought to feel so -- i don't want to put words in your mouth. what are your feelings? are you excited about this show? >> we're very excited, because we get a chance to sort of show who we are off-stage, and they know us on stage.

we feel it's a lesson to be shown and for people to see how we really are. >> not only that, with the various projects that the brothers have, this is the most time we've spent together in a long time. i tell you, they're not too bad to hang around with sometimes. >> larry: how about the story that you were going to bring a show to vegas? >> well, it's -- there's so many opportunities. there's so many -- >> larry: do you get offers every day? >> many offers, larry he. >> isn't vegas logical? it's close to where you live. it's good money and great attention. you pack them in. what's more logical than michael jackson's brothers working vegas? >> we want to go out there and hit the road and hurt them, right, marlon?

we want to put it on them. >> larry: you want to tour? >> he loves the one-nighters. >> just go out there and jam to a different city. vegas is wonderful. we can always go there. we still have some touring to do, right, guys? >> that's right. >> jackie lives in vegas. that's why he's not saying right. >> for 40 years we had great, great support from our fans around the world, and i think we should give he them a great tour around the world. >> larry: how far off is this? >> well, i don't know. you know, there's been some talk about some things. there's a he lot of work that goes into putting the type of show we want to put together. >> larry: the same people going to put it together that put the jackson tour to london together? >> we haven't decided. >> larry: you haven't picked a producer, but the jacksons are going to tour. >> we'll bring you with us, larry. >> larry: i'll intro you. i'll going around and intro you. what do you pay opening acts? okay. i love to do one swing with you. you know, just make one week and do every night to see what it's