courting? ♪ hold me in your arms >> jeannie moos, cnn, new york. see you monday. among my guests suze orman with money advice for the new year. "larry king live" starts right now. i'm randy kay at cnn we are following breaking news. a 6.5 magnitude earthquake has struck off the coast of northern california. the usgs says it is about 25 miles from the city of eureka, a coastal city of 26,000 people. meteorologist jacqui jeras watching the latest. >> yeah. 6.5 quake. it can cause damage but likely not widespread major damage. the area we are talking about off the coast of northern california. about 25 miles offshore. the worst of the strength of the storm would have been felt off the coast. that is good news.

you can see that big orange dot in the middle there. that was the initial quake and all these little dots are what we would call aftershocks. those have been minor, 3.8 or so in magnitude. this is what we call a shake map. the whole area that is yellow, eureka, that is where we felt somewhere between a five and a six. so this is where some of the damage is. we've been listening to scanner reports there have been water main breaks and gas leaks and some evacuations due to those gas leaks but most of the damage we expect is going to be in the minor to moderate at most range. that's what we know for now. we will continue to monitor the situation and, of course, watch for more aftershocks and bring you that information. we want to talk with jessica stephens tucker, a resident of

fortuna, california. jessica, do you hear me? >> yes i. >> you are in fortuna, california. tell me what you felt. >> it was a rolling one rather than jolting one. it felt like it was about eight seconds. it rolled and we were watching the truck and then it slammed. >> where were you and where was your truck? >> we were in the living room of our house and the truck was on the driveway. >> you saw it go under the truck or the truck move? >> oh, yeah. you could see the truck moving back and forth. >> what did you do, brace yourself for something more or what? >> we pretty much got in the doorway and the children ran to the window to see everything and we said get out of the window and it was over. >> who was in the home? how many kids do you have there?

>> three teenagers here with us. >> so you say it lasted just a few seconds. tell me, what about the damage in your home? anything? >> all we had was a few pictures fell off the wall, that type of thing, tipped over pictures, tipped over candles. nothing major broke. >> how far are you from eureka and ferndale, california, where we are seeing the effects? >> we are about seven miles east of ferndale and about 20 miles south of eureka. >> do you have power in your home now? >> yes. >> is everything back on in the neighborhood? >> yes. we lost power for about two to three minutes. >> have you had a chance to speak with neighbors? what is everybody feeling there? >> everybody is shook up. i don't think i felt any of the aftershocks. i have heard in ferndale there are a lot of downed power lines.

at our local casino in between eureka and here there is a propane leak. >> we are glad to hear you are doing okay. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> we want to check in with dan simon. she is in san francisco monitoring the scanner traffic, emergency traffic. what are you hear something. >> reporter: i am in san francisco. i did not feel the earthquake here. this is 230 miles southwest of san francisco, eureka. at this point it sounds like there is a widespread power outage affecting eureka and hearing about gas and water lines possibly being ruptured and residents being evacuated as a precaution. this is scanner traffic from police and fire dispatch. not officially confirmed. it appear s damage is not

terribly significant. we are still in the assessment phase. police officers and firefighters will have a busy night responding. a 6.5 quake is significant. it was off the coast about 22 miles off the coast. i'm going to keep listening to the traffic and we'll update you as we hear more. >> dan, as a california resident. we heard jessica tell us this was more of a rolling event and slammed. is that language familiar to you? have you been through something like that? >> reporter: it definitely is. let me point out, this particular area, it is not uncommon to have earthquakes. we should note it is a bit closer to the shore than previous earthquakes we've seen in the last decade or so. i was doing a little bit of research that is definitely concerning, but that rolling effect you are saying, that is very common. not abnormal at all. we are trying to assess how much

damage there is at this point. the gas lines, definitely a concern for firefighters responding to various homes and ruptured gas lines. you would expect to see evacuations there. >> are you hearing as well that ferndale seems to be a big area and eureka with propane leaks as well? >> reporter: yeah. it seemed like the quake was closest to fern dale. that is where if you had some damage or anything else that is where you would definitely feel it. eureka being the largest city, about 26,000 people, that is where you would have the majority of the homes that if you had significant damage you would probably see more of it there. >> all right. dan simon, keep a watch on that for us and we'll get back to you as soon as we can. earlier i talked to cole machado. he sent us interesting pictures. that is a crack in the ceiling of his home he took after this

quake. he said it lasted a few seconds and he was pretty nervous. he thought his tv was going to fall off. he told us he was watching cnn while this was happening. that is the crack in his ceiling. i'm not sure we had the other one. there we go. some of the items in his home that had fallen. some ta chews and things. he has a mess to clean up there. he lost power for a few minutes. he was talking on the phone he told us and everything started to shaking. jacqui jeras let's check back with you, that is not uncommon to hear from people who live through an earthquake, everything starts shaking. >> absolutely. it is a scary thing to go through as well. if you don't have time to get outside you want to get underneath something sturdy to protect yourself. something else we deal with from time to time when earthquakes happen offshore, we get tsunamis. this time there was no tsunami watch or warning issued. it was not one of those types of

quakes. based on the proximity to the coastline, if a tsunami would have to occur we would have felt this and seen things happen. this was a relatively shallow quake ten miles deep. that is a little bit of a factor as well. had this happened over california, we would have seen more damage as a result. so you can see about 25 miles or so away from ferndale, california. a 6.5 is what we could consider a strong, not a major earthquake. >> jacqui, thanks for keeping an eye on that. more on this breaking news at the top of the hour. "larry king" continues right after thissing break. (announcer) we understand. you want to grow internationally.

>> larry: mayor, a study out of duke university says it is profiling. >> it depends on how you determine profiling. if somebody calls me up and tells me the person who just committed the crime is a 6'2", blond guy, well then you look for a 6'2" blond guys and if you get a thousand reports like that, those are the people that you look for. so, of course, you have to profile in the sense that you have to have some criteria for what you're looking for. if, in fact, the major threat that is occurring comes from misguided, perverted muslims, meaning people who are perverting the religion, then there's nothing wrong with putting more attention in that area than some other area.

otherwise you're wasting a lot of resources and a lot of time. it depends on whether the profiling is rationally based or based on unfair prejudice. >> larry: could that be a delicate line, though? >> it is a delicate line. but if you take away the ability to use rational analysis for determining where the threats are coming from, you're putting yourself in grave danger. the reality is if, in fact, the threat is 90% coming from one area, then roughly 90% of your attention should be in that area. that isn't prejudice. that's rational, sensible reaction to a set of facts that leads you in that direction. you couldn't solve any crimes unless you do that. >> larry: justice department has decided to try the accused 9/11 mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed in new york city. >> terrible -- >> larry: let's listen to what the president said. first, listen to what he said, then i'll have you comment. >> all right. >> i'm absolutely convinced that

khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people insist on it and my administration will insist on it. >> larry: rudy, that's your city. you've tried cases there. they know how to do it in new york. >> they sure do. >> larry: what are you concerned about? >> i think this could be one of the worst mistakes that any president's ever made. >> larry: why? >> well, first of all, he has military tribunals for other terrorists. if you're going to have military tribunals, then they obviously also can provide justice. >> larry: but the crime was committed there. wouldn't you feel that all those people who lost relatives want that man tried in their city at their territory? >> well, actually, larry, most of those people -- not all. you never have all. most of those people would rather see him tried in a military court. the president didn't take their wishes into consideration. there's no question it adds a

level of threat to new york. not the only kind of threat new york has. a tremendous burden. the mayor is asking for a significant amount of money to have to deal with this. i had to close down new york when we had similar trials when i was the mayor, and it cost me a lot of time, a lot of attention. and the reality is you're also, by using this method, cutting yourself off from getting intelligence like he has done with this situation in detroit. so i think this is one of the big mistakes that he's made. and the reality is, you know, both he and the attorney general have already announced that this guy is guilty, and i think one of them has said he's probably going to get executed. so i mean, i don't know what they're talking about in terms of a fair trial. so -- and i don't know what happens if he gets acquitted. the president of the united states can't be saying to the world, we're going to give him a fair trial but he's going to get convicted. if we're doing this for public relations and creating these burdens on ourselves, i don't

see why we want to do that. this man organized an attack from outside the united states on the united states. it was an attack very much like pearl harbor, and nobody would have ever thought of prosecuting the people who attacked pearl harbor in a civilian court. president lincoln didn't do that, president roosevelt didn't do that, president bush didn't do that. i don't know why president obama wants to do that. >> larry: back in 60 seconds. ♪ well, look who's here. it's ellen. hey, mayor white. how you doing? great. come on in. would you like to see our new police department?

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part of the first amendment, part of debate. president cheney -- vice president cheney is entitled to his view. i share some of them. i don't share all of them. my hope is -- and i mean this. i hope that this administration does a midcourse correction much like president clinton did, which i always thought showed essentially president clinton's practicality in terms of being president. i think he's gone way too far to the left, president obama. president clinton had some of those problems early in his administration, he made a midcourse correction and then accomplished a lot of good things. welfare reform, other things like that, criminal justice reform. i hope president obama is in a learning process and we see a change for the good of the country, forget partisan politics. i'd like to see him reverse his decision on the trial in new york. and i'd like to see him treat these people who are trying to attack this country as enemy combatants so that we can get the maximum amount of information out of them.

if he make corrections like that, it would show great leadership. >> larry: you're in the security business. what do you make of the newark airport, right next store to you, the breach last sunday. we now learn that cameras were running but they weren't recording. the tsa takes full responsibility. how do they let that happen? >> these things happen and they shouldn't happen. and we need a lot more concentration on it. and you know, i think maybe that one of the good things that can come out of the situation that just happened in detroit, which thank god didn't involve the loss of life, is this can act as a wake-up call for us. we've become too lackadaisical since september 11th. the threat to this country is just as great now as it was then. september 11th is not part of our history yet. it's still part of our present. the same forces that wanted to attack us then, yt ideological

misperceptions that were present then are present now. and we've got to invest a lot of our time and effort in making ourselves secure. and i thing maybe we've become a little too lackadaisical, which may account for not connecting some of the dots, some of these mistakes that are occurring. >> larry: when we come back we'll ask rudy giuliani about, guess what? politics. don't be shocked. if you're buying store-brand ibuprofen, you may save a little money on your arthritis pain relief. but you could end up taking twice as many pills... compared to aleve. choose aleve, it just makes sense. just two aleve have the strength to relieve arthritis pain all day.

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call now. get into some politics with rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york. what do you make of chris dodd bowing out today? >> well, i guess he's -- it sounds to me he's doing that probably for the good of the party since they think they have a stronger candidate. of course, i hope that this gives us an opportunity, meaning the republicans, to pick up a seat in connecticut. i think the opportunity's out there for republicans in this election year are pretty darn good. you see all these democrats resigning, opening up seats. an open seat is always easier to

take than an incumbent seat. so who knows what it's going to be like in november, but right now, as a republican, i'm feeling pretty good about the pickups that we can make this year. >> larry: byron dorgan also will not run. >> yeah, there's another one. i think that may be an example of the president having pushed the agenda a little too far to the left, which is what i was saying before. we'll have to see if the president makes a correction or not. because he's putting a lot of these seats -- it seems to me he's putting them in jeopardy, particularly in the house where you have a lot of democrats sitting in districts that were republican districts up until, you know, the last election or the one before that. >> larry: all right. now your own party. is sarah palin viable? >> sure. >> larry: is she the face of your party now? >> well, gosh, who knows three years before the presidential election who the face of our party is. sarah palin is extremely popular, she's extremely articulate, she's somebody who has run for vice president and she has the right to make her

case to the republican party, which will all happen after 2010. but she certainly generates an enormous amount of enthusiasm. larry, i took her to a baseball game last year. judith and i took her to a baseball game at yankee stadium in the bronx, which you know is democratic territory, and she got an absolute great response. everybody wanted to take a -- >> larry: really? >> even the democrats wanted to take pictures with her. >> larry: that's a good sign. >> yeah. >> larry: there's a "new york times" report today that democrat harold ford who has moved to new york, maybe going to run the primary against the senator who replaced hillary clinton. we know that you can come into new york and win. hillary clinton, robert kennedy and others. can harold ford be a viable new york candidate? >> i know harold. and see him quite a bit, different things. yeah, you know, new york is a place where we have a history like that. if we were talking about some other state, i would say that's a tough -- that's a tough thing to do.

that's a tough thing to come in and at least immediately run for the senate. you can't run for governor in new york. you have to have a five year residency. you can run for the senate. i guess in new york, anything is possible. >> larry: why didn't you run for governor? >> i wasn't -- i didn't want to leave my business and law firm right now. i took a lot of time off to run for president, a lot of things got disorganized. i put them back together. we're in the middle of and on the verge of doing a lot of exciting things like that thing in brazil. my firm has grown. i started the new york office of bracewell giuliani four years ago. it's gone from three lawyers to 70. we're continuing to grow. so this wasn't the right time to do it. it creates a tremendous amount of disruption in your business life. and i guess, you know, i was enthusiastic about what i was doing. but that doesn't mean i'm not tremendously interested, i'm not going to help republicans to the extent that they want my help and that i'm not going to be

involved in all these issues because they're part of me. >> larry: republicans are constantly accused by the other side of being only negative. tell me something you like about the president. >> well, i like the fact that he dealt with afghanistan in the right way. i think that he had a tough choice to make. i did think he took a little too long in making it, but that may be his decision style. but i support his realization and his acting on his campaign promise to make afghanistan a priority. i respect him as a leader. i think he's got an enormous ability to communicate. i wish he would use it for purposes that i agree with more. this i don't know about him because i don't know barack obama personally. i don't know the balance between ideology and practicality. i worked for ronald reagan, and ronald reagan is often described as a highly ideological, very right wing -- ronald reagan was one of the most practical people i ever met. and the understanding that if you can get half a loaf, it's better than getting nothing.

if you can get 60% or 70%, you probably won. you rarely get 100%. i hope that barack obama has that same -- that same capacity to readjust himself in having gone what i regard as too far to the left. >> larry: one other thing, rudy, how do you regard your old foe senator clinton as secretary of state? >> i admire the job she's doing. that's a very difficult job. particularly for somebody who has been -- who has run for president, run against barack obama. i think she's doing a, from what i can tell -- now, i don't know the internals of what goes on there. i think she's doing a good job. i've disagreed with hillary clinton quite often but i have tremendous respect for her. >> larry: always good to see you, rudy. we'll see you in new york. >> thank you, larry.

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cnn is following breaking news a 6.5 magnitude quake has hit in california, in the city of eureka, about 26,000 people. jacqui jeras has details. >> this earthquake occurred offshore otherwise we would have seen more damage. most of the reports we are getting is there is minor damage. this happened about 4:30 local time, 7:30 eastern time. that large orange dot you can see, that was the main quake that hit. the multiple little dots are called aftershocks. we have had about four of those. the strongest was about 3.8 in magnitude. what does that mean? 6.5 in magnitude? we would consider that a strong quake. you see 120 of these worldwide in a calendar year. you tend to see the most damage

100 miles or less from the epicenter. the star is the epicenter. this yellow area is where we felt the intensity, 6.5 or less in that area. it is very concentrated. we are getting reports of power outages. randi, you will have information on that. we will continue to monitor the aftershock and if we get more information we'll bring it to you. >> chris durant is a reporter with "the times standard" newspaper in eureka. can you describe what you saw. >> i was working. our newsroom was the second noor of a large concrete building. we are used to feeling small ones. after the first few seconds we looked at each other and said this is not a small one.

i headed toward the stairwell. i had to stop or i would have ended up on the ground. in the stairwell there were chunks of plaster, not huge knock you out chunks. >> what type of damage are you hearing about in the area? >> not as much as you might think with a 6.5. a lot is store fronts broken, a lot of calls on the scanner with the smell of gas. the mall did see some injuries. some reports of people in the mall that ceiling tiles were falling on them and floor tiles popping up. they evacuated that. >> what else has been evacuated besides the mall? any neighborhoods. >> no. people are standing outside and talking with their neighbors and kind of like letting the nerves calm down. there is no massive evacuations

or police with horns in the street. >> all right. chris durant good details for us. thank you, chris. just recapping what we know. a quake measures 6.5 rolled across northern california about two hours ago now. no serious injuries or serious damage. it was centered off the coast. the u.s. geological survey says there were no tsunami warnings. that is a picture from a resident of eureka, cole mach o machado, that is a ceiling crack in his home. we'll have the latest details for you. right now "larry king" does continue. carney wilson is here, singer, entertainer and host of "the newlywed game" and star of the reality show carnie wilson

unstapled. she junt went gastric bypass surgery. jillian michaels is back. a trainer on "biggest loser." she is the author of "master your metabolism. let's look at a clip from carnie's reality show. >> do i feel like i'm going to lift off? >> okay. we can give you something else. >> i feel like i'm about to go to the prom. >> these veining coming out. i hate mirrors. >> carnie, why has weight been such a problem to you? >> oh, gosh. >> larry: looking back, why?

>> it is my achilles' heel. >> larry: as a kid? >> oh, yeah. i think it will probably always be a struggle. i have been up, i have been down. it might be that way forever. i crave and strive for balance. >> larry: how up have you been? >> i have been up to over 300 pounds. >> larry: how down? >> low as 148. 146. >> larry: don't you miss the 148? >> yeah. i mean, i miss maybe wearing a size six. i was very, very sick at 300 pound. i had sleep apnea, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, prediabetic. my liver was inflamed. i was in really, really bad -- poor health at 31. i have none now.

i'm grateful. >> larry: jillian, 2/3 of adults, 67% are overweight or obese. with all the emphasis on the show, your show, the rest, why? >> i think it is matter of economics. and, of course, people that are prone to that type of self-destruction and we all have dysfunction and it manifests in different ways. >> larry: 67%. >> i do believe that is a matter of economics. i think it is because americans don't realize what they're eating. now with the dollar menu. everybody is struggling to make ends meet and when you can get a burger and fries for a buck, i think it is difficult. >> right. >> i think that is a huge part of the problem. >> i agree. i wouldn't say obesity is a dysfunction. obesity is a disease there is definitely people who are predisposed to becoming obese. >> larry: childhood obesity.

>> i think there is a huge genetic component. if there is a child that has the obesity gene, if they eat that stuff by the time they are 12, 1314 they will be more obese than other people. >> larry: what was gastric bypass surgery like? >> it was life saving. >> larry: how many pounds did it take off? >> 150. >> larry: in one operation? >> well, no. no. no. over the course of a year and a half with much less calories taken in mixed with exercise and a definite change of lifestyle. i have changed my lifestyle. i don't eat fried foods anymore. sugar is hard. but i could snack all day long and the weight could creep up. it is not an answer or cure for morbid obesity but a cure for type ii diabetes. i strive for health. i'm not perfect. my message is i'm not perfect. i strive for balance and to be in good health.

>> larry: exercise is just one of the instruments. >> absolutely. >> larry: it is your baby. >> you can eat your way through any amount of exercise. a piece of pizza 500 calories and an hour on the treadmill. >> calories in, calories out. >> without a doubt. exercise is the number one form of preventive medicine. you shouldn't skip exercise but it is not the sole solution. it is a combination of diet, exercise and i think doing the emotional work, taking care of yourself internally as well. >> larry: a man who lost more than half his body weight, the latest "biggest loser" winner is next. good news, my phoenix office...

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>> larry: carnie and jillian remain. danny cahill joins us. winner of the eighth season of nbc's "the biggest loser." danny lost 239 pounds. more than half his body weight. he lost 56% of the body weight.

let's take a look at how he did it. >> danny, your starting weight is 430 pounds. >> this thing has stolen my life. i want my life back. >> look at that word, believe, okay? right there. >> do it! press. one more. >> let's go. pop it. >> what? >> danny is a -- >> i'm not afraid to believe that i can do what i need to do. >> larry: maybe the greatest "biggest loser" ever. when you look at that now and look at your 460 pound self, what do you think? >> i remember what it felt like and it hurt. it did hurt. i was terribly unhealthy. >> larry: how did it get to

that? >> you know, it was a combination of not being mentally right. i put away my dreams, my aspirations for something else. so i stopped making myself a priority. and then it was also, you know, eating the wrong things and not exercising. it was exactly the opposite of what jillian said. you know, a combination of diet and exercise and mine was neither. >> larry: do you fear a reversal of form? >> you know, it's -- >> larry: when you see carnie talk about up and downs all her life. >> i've been there too. this season was called "second chance." i was overweight and obese until i was 15. i lost 75 to 80 pounds over a summer because i put my mind to it and said i'm tired of this. i kept it off for eight, almost nine years. >> larry: then what happened? >> then it started when i got engaged and got comfortable. you get comfortable and kind of -- you know, i got engaged so i'm going to quit running now. i don't have time to run right now. you know, i started putting away the exercise and i got

comfortable and it didn't stop from there. it escalated. >> larry: jillian, are you comfortable he's set now? >> i'm actually very comfortable. danny had a psychological shift early on in the show and we had a moment about it and i realize that he grasped -- he was capable of more. he believed he was worth it. >> larry: carnie, when you look at something like that, what do you think? you look fantastic. >> i relate. it's touching, it's moving, it's inspiring. you know, i've been there and i know what it feels like to be completely depleted of all of yourself and your spirit just crashing. going to feeling that inspiration and that deserving of being in better health. >> larry: what about the show did it for you? >> you know, what the show was i think was my accountability. you know, i had reached a point where i was going to do something about it, but -- i had done things about it a few years before, but i would always retract and stop.

and it was lack of accountability. i think the show, what the show gave me was the accountability. hey, you're out there. you know, you have to do it now. you need to be accountable to someone. i was accountable for the whole country. >> larry: what do you do for a living? >> i was a land surveyor and musician. >> larry: now? >> now i'm doing music and going to do inspirational motivational speaking. some other things. >> larry: do you win money on that show? >> yes, i won a $250,000. >> wow. >> larry: that's a good incentive. >> that was very good incentive. that's not why i went though. i went to get my life back. when she's talking about i had the switch, that's when i pictured myself, i can be the biggest loser. >> larry: we're going to meet a family in a minute in north carolina. everybody in the family is over 300 pounds. can you fathom that? >> absolutely. >> this is america today. >> it is genetic. that's very common. >> it is -- people are genetically predisposed but you

can control your genetics. genetics are dynamic. they're not static. >> larry: was your father overweight? >> my father was not overweight. my mother was overweight and, you know, it does tend to run in the family. you can do something about it. you can do something about it. you have to get this right. >> larry: the show proves it. we'll take a break. and a family that's packed on the pounds wants to put a stop to it all. want to end eating and stop doing the wrong things. mom, dad, brother and sister in 60 seconds. it cleared up right away. i can breathe. (announcer) so where would you rate it? 99.9. (announcer) afrin. why suffer? so, at national, i go right past the counter... and you get to choose any car in the aisle. choose any car? you cannot be serious! okay. seriously, you choose. go national. go like a pro.

>> larry: we're joined by a family now in indian trail, north carolina, that loves each other and losing weight together. norris coles, the dad, stars in tlc's "one big happy family." along with his daughter, amber, his son, shayne and mom, tameka. each weighs more than 300 pounds. they've decided to get fit as a family without the help of trainers or nutritionists. here is a clip from "one big

happy family." >> that does kind of make me feel guilty that these are habits they learned early on. norris and i, i think we both were to blame. we got to make some changes. >> i think we should all try together. i need the family's help. >> did you hear that? >> i heard it. >> okay. thank you, doctor. >> no problem, i'll see you in october. >> without his family's cooperation, shayne will fail. shayne will develop diabetes within two years unless this entire family works together. as you look at shayne's mom and look at shayne's dad, it's clear to me the entire family's at risk. >> larry: tameka coles. how did this start? you're 36 years old and weigh 380 pounds. how did this start? >> well, you mean as far as the weight gain?

>> larry: yeah. >> basically, larry, food is really good. food is our comfort. it has been forever and we've always just loved to eat and never really exercise. so the pounds just started adding up and packing on. >> larry: didn't you realize, though, how it would affect your children? >> you know, i've never -- i never really looked at it as me hurting them. i never really looked it as them really being at risk until really we went to the doctor's office that day and god basically spoke to my husband, me, and my kids through the doctors and that's when the red light went off and said, okay. there's a problem here and we need to do something about it. >> larry: we're going to take a break and find out what you're doing and get the thoughts of doing and get the thoughts of well. don't go away.

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>> larry: back to the coles family in north carolina. our panel in as a family, what do you try to do together to get rid of this problem? >> as a family, we try to stay focused on losing weight. the way we're doing it is through a buddy system. we're going to the gym, we're watching what we eat. we're eating good food, i mean we're eating food that's organic. all the stuff that's new to us, but it's working. i mean, we're losing drastic weight. our confidence is up, shane's diabetes is down. my high blood pressure is down, my cholesterol is down, it's working. >> amber, did you want to go along. >> i want to keep doing what i'm

doing. >> amber, did you want to go on the biggest loser? >> no, i never wanted to go on the biggest loser. >> could they have gone on as a family? >> on the biggest loser the most we've had are parentses so far, parents and kids, brothers and sisters. i'm going to be dealing with families on my new show, losing it. hopefully i can work with a family like that, but it doesn't seem like they need me. they're doing amazing on their own, and it's inspirational. >> shane, you're only 14, is it hard for you not to eat those oreo cookies? >> actually, at first is it was hard for me not to eat them, but i realized it was something i had to do, something i had to change, so i could better myself. i don't want to die early just

for oreos. >> what do you make of this, carnie? >> you know, i feel for them. i wish them all the best of luck. the buddy system is incredible. i think the main thing they should have be concerned with is their health like he was saying. that was a brilliant comment, because it is a realization, and they have to do it for themselves individually, they can't do it for everyone else. i know what it's like to be under a micro scope, have the world watch. >> it brings back a lot of memories, what inspired me to even get up and get moving was my daughter. you know, my wife became overweight, my daughter came in and said, i want a belly just like yours. i caught her closet eating just like i was when i was little. the fact that they're all accountable, it works. my wife lost 70 pounds while i

was on the show. >> are you confident that you and your family are going to lick this? >> absolutely. i'm very confident, and they are very confident, and it's going to happen, whether we're on the show or not, it's going to happen. >> all right, we'll take i abreak. it's time for a home ininspecti, we're going to look at what's in nicole's refrigerator. veveveveve

carnie wilson and jillian cahill are with us here in l.a. in north carolina, tamika is now at the family refrigerator. what's in there, what are you going to show us. >> okay, larry, i'm glad you want to look and see what's in here. we have a lot of fruits and vegetables, especially cucumbers, we really love

cucumb cucumbers, we eat a lot of these. we have fresh green beans. we have spinach in here as well. we don't use regular cheese any more, everything is fat free or low fat. apples. we don't use regular like miracle whip, we use mayo with olive oil now. that's what we have in here. pineapples, of course. >> what's in the freezer? >> in the freezer, we got a lot of veggies, a whole bunch of veggies. we do have those times where we have cheat days. we don't like to go out because people are always stalking us. we have hot dog things, they're the bomb. >> no ice cream. >> no ice cream. we had to give up ice cream because they love ice cream too

much. no ice cream. >> that's impressive, isn't it? >> it is. i think they're on the right track, for me i know when i have brown rice, lots of veggies, i'm happy to be eating that food. if it doesn't taste great, i'm not happy. and i don't like to feel deprived, i don't have to be deprived. >> what did you do when you were hungry? >> when i was hungry, you know, i tended to -- what i did, i started to eat more meals throughout the day, and a little less calories. >> smaller meals? >> yes. >> what do you do when you're who hungry, norris in. >> when i'm hungry, what i do, i eat a bunco burger or fresh fruit, like papaya. it's a different transition in my brain. but i'm sticking with it, and i'm get gooding results.

that's what i do when i'm hungry. >> amber, are you all under a doctor's care? >> yes, it's important before we started this, we consulted a doctor. >> shane, do your classmates make fun of you? >> no, they do not make fun of me. they love me as far as i know. they're proud of me for making this lifestyle change. >> well, you're very lovable. >> i love him. >> what about exercise, jillian? should they be exercising? >> it seems like you are exercising, it's going to accelerate your weight loss. danny lost 100 pounds in what, 8, 7 weeks? >> 9 weeks. that's totally unrealistic. but the reason it was so fast is because he was exercising so much. >> carnie, they put a lot of pressure on themselves by going on television. >> yes. >> it would be embarrassing if you gain weight.

>> or if they don't lose it. all i have to say, they have to keep in mind they're doing it for themselves, they're going to inspire people, that's why i had gastric bypass on the internet, i wanted people to know that was an option. >> should they think of gastric bypass. >> i have to say a staggering statistic, and that is only 1% of people that lose over 100 pounds will keep that weight off. and medical intervention is sometimes necessary. it's -- >> that's discouraging. >> i applaud them, i encourage them for doing it the right way, which is exercise and diet. -- however