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nations, everybody is coming together to create a global movement for compassion and action. >> larry: that's at the american jewish university. deepak chopra. spiritual leader and best selling author. time now for anderson cooper and "a.c. 360." we've been talking about their good intentions and how they may have been naive and misinformed and not well-informed. you'll see that the idea they were knnaive and uninformed is untrue. you hear the first hand account of an orphanage worker in haiti said the missionary lead went trolling for kids and he says she was repeatedly told that was illegal. an american man said the missionary leader offered to get the kids he and his wife were adopting legally.
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she tried to get them out of haiti. they say that's illegal. news today that civil charges against the former top guy at bank of america, civil charges and no threat of jail time. why not? why is not one single executive facing jail time. we're talking about your money and future. the tea party convention has begun. we'll look at who is there and who isn't and make sense of the movement that could shape the upcoming elections. haiti, the missionaries and kids and criminal charges. today the ten missionaries from a baptist congregation in idaho appeared in court. they got shoved around. it was chaotic going in. once inside they were hit with counts of kidnapping and criminal association for trying to take 33 kids across the border into the dominican republic. the prosecutor didn't bring the most serious possible charge, which is child trafficking, but
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a judge could amend the indictment later. look at this. chaotic there, as you can see. as it stands the current charges could add up to life in prison. now a lawyer for the group said something very interesting he said nine of ten were completely innocent, but if the court were to keep one member it could be the group leader. tonight we've uncovered a lot of very shocking allegations about my silsby's action. the group maintained they had no intent of breaking the law. just the other day they made contact with the haitian police officer to smooth the mission. we don't know if a bribe was paid or not. we heard from the dominican counsel in haiti who said he warned the group to their face that without the right documents they did not have what they were planning to do was against the law. so now tonight in a 360 exclusive for the first time two new voices who also suggest that the leader of the group was not uninformed about what she was doing. in nashville richard pickett
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brought three kids home from haiti legally. while he was there his wife got three surprising and disturbing calls from miss sillsby. laurie visited this man, and he's talking about it for the first time. david on the phone. laura sillsby came to you and your orphanage and said she was looking for orphans to take away. didn't that strike you as odd? >> yes. laura came to our orphanage, very friendly and polite, asking us, do we need help and do we have any children that are injured and that need help? we answered them, we told her that we had children that had
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fever and a cold, and they said they can help. by giving us some medicine. >> she also told you -- >> they asked if we had difficulty -- >> she told you she wanted to take kids into the dominican republic, correct? >> she was asking us can she help us by taking a few children for us so that they can be raised in an orphanage, in another orphan naj. >> what did you tell her about that? >> hello? >> what did you tell her about that, david? >> i told her that -- okay. i told her that the adoption process is difficult for me to take decision, and the person to
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take decisions is not here. >> you told her that she could not take -- >> that's my father. >> you told her she could not take kids into the dominican republic without the permission of the government, correct? >> no. i don't know much about that. i don't know much about that. i only told her that i can't make those types of decisions. that's all i did. >> richard, laura sillsby learned that you and your wife were in the process of adopting several haitian kids, it's a process you'd been in for years and doing completely legally and appropriately. she called your wife apparently three times saying she was in haiti and would get your kids out of the country, is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. >> what did your wife think of that? my wife was very surprised and alarmed. she told laura on each occasion that she called, she said, absolutely not.
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we do not need any help. she told her that i was in haiti and please do not do anything with our children. >> you were already on the ground in haiti going through the proper channels to get your kids out because you had the proper paperwork. even after your wife said doonts go to the orphanage and try to take our kids, she actually did go to the orphanage to look for your kids, right? >> yes, that's correct. >> what do you make of that? what do you think of what she was up to? >> to me, it's pretty alarming because we're the legal parents of these children, and we gave her explicit instructions not to interfere with them. for her to continue to come and find them to take them to the dominican tells me that her intent sbnt actually the best. >> did your wife point-blank say to her, not only don't go to the kids but this is not the way to do it? this is not legal? >> no, she didn't tell her that, but the person that gave laura our contact information told her explicitly that you cannot just
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take any child across the border. you have to have the correct permissions to do that from the government. and laura wanted to make the calls anyway to see if there were ways she could get children. >> so a lot of us are trying to figure out, you know -- everybody gives the benefit of the doubt neez people and they're well-intentioned. what do you make of this. you're wife had actual interaction with her. >> for my he wife to tell her on each call not to interfere with our children and for laura to go to the orphanage to try and find them to take them tells me her intentions aren't the best. and i guess the best -- if i tried to characterize her in the best light possible, i would say her intent was to take children and use them to do fund-raising for support. maybe it's worse than that, but
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i wouldn't want to speculate any further. >> do you think that's really maybe what was at the heart of this? that she, for whatever reason, wanted to use these kids or show she was doing stuff for fund-raising? >> yes. because as david may tell you, if you switch back to you, she then hired david whether she wouldn't give her any children and my children were with me, she hired david to go from orphanage to orphanage and be her translator and guide and no one would turn children over to her. in the end she was frustrated and crying that none of the responsible adults would give her any children. >> david suddenly is suddenly hesitant to talk to us. i'll stick with you. he previously said he was hired as an interpreter by her and told producers she would cry. what do you make of that, richard? >> it shows that her intent cannot be the best. if the responsible adults are there taking care of the child and providing for them, why
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would she cry and become frustrated when they don't give he them up? i would think she'd be happy to find that they were responsible care givers taking care of the children. since she wasn't, obviously, her intentions couldn't have been the best. >> what do you think should happen now? >> if she had actually taken our children, i think it would actually be a matter for the fbi to prosecute her for abduction or kidnapping. but since she didn't actually get our children, i'm not really sure. i think the haitian government obviously has strong, compelling evidence in order to keep her. i'm sure that the united states government is doing all it can to smooth things out and evidently they're not able to do that. so that leads me to believe that the government of haiti will really deal with what she has actually been able to accomplish. >> richard, i know -- he want to end on a happy note. you got three kids. your family has grown a lot. you have photos of the kids.
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how are they doing? >> they're doing great. we're actually very surprised at how well the children are integrating, and the biological children that we already had are receiving them very well. it doesn't seem like we're having any jealousy or non-sharing type situations that at first we were berned about. everything is going very well. >> congratulations to you and your wife. what you've done is extraordinary, and i just want to thank you for talking about this situation and also for what you've done. thank you very much. >> yes, sir, thank you. >> i'll bring in karl penhaul now listening to these stories and trying to help us connect. he's been on top of the story since day one. what do you make of this? the fact now -- previously we had that representative from the dominican republic who said point-blank he told her what she was doing was illegal. you have richard who says that his wife said, don't go try to get our kids, and this woman tried to do that. the woman that gave them their information said, this is illegal. >> reporter: they had no doubt in their minds what they were
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doing was absolutely illegal, and that if they were caught they would be arrested. what we've got is a group of people that come across as naive and god-fearing people. they've told a series of lies, and i won't hedge my bets there. they've told a series of lies, and we have that in interviews and on bits of paper. they showed a calculated disregard for the law. >> i want to talk to you about what those laws are. we have to take a quick break. we'll be back in a moment. this is a story with a lot of moving parts in haiti and back in idaho where the missionary leader was also in hot water. dan simon will talk to us about this. this is bizarre to say the least. join the live chat at a kac360.. we'll be right back. ♪
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we'll show you what happened in court today. a lot of pushing and shoving. the charges against them, kidnapping and criminal association, in other words, conspiracy not eligible for bail. they're monitoring developments. let's talk to karl penhaul following this from the get-go. in terms of what they said to you and others that we know is not true, what are the lies that you say you know point-blank? >> reporter: let's not go into
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the stuff they talked about in the interview. let's talk about this little piece of paper. this is the so-called brochure that the americans were giving out to people who were handing over children. first line, wepts to help haitian children who have lost their mother and father. that is not true. most of the these children were not orphans, and in many cases it was their own mother and/or father that handed over the kids to the americans, and they knew that because the translators were translating that for them. line two is a nonprofit and caring for orphaned children in the dominican republic. we understand that the organization isn't even yet registered as a nonprofit, and it certainly isn't dedicated to looking after any kind of kids in the dr because that school and orphanage is not set up yet. it's a 45-room motel that hasn't been converted. third lie on this single piece of paper. we have permission to bring
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orphan kids into our orphanage into the dominican republic. not true. the dominican consult told the americans at 2:00 p.m. on friday you do not have the paperwork. it is illegal what you're doing. do not travel. four hours later at border they were arrested. final lie. you can follow the progress of your kids on our website. the website is not up and running yet, anderson. >> they're handing this out. they were around in port-au-prince trolling for kids, going around trying to collect kids under the age of 10. for whatever reason they could take them to the dominican republic. and we had also just learned today they had told that guy david lewis they were going to bring kids into the united states, or they'd offered to bring richard's kids into the united states, which, you know, the fact that richard and his wife -- that his wife said, look, do not go to this
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orphanage where our kids are in the process of being legally adopted and went anyway, to me that raises all sorts of red flags. >> reporter: it does, as well as the fact they are looking for children zero to 10. i asked an ngo specialist about that, why zero to 10? he says kids of zero to x ea10 send into adoption. if they were going to be sent into adopted, they would have been sent abroad for that. maybe the dr was a halfway house. i don't know that for sure. the people you talked to tonight, you can piece it together. it seems like that. certainly, there were trolling for orphanages as well, because the three translators that we spoke to extensively had said they were asked to telephone another orphanage, and that orphanage also declined help. >> it would be one thing if they had a orphanage set up in the dominican republic they'd been operating a month or two months. the fact is they didn't. they rented a motel, and that's
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what they said was their orphanage. a lot of moving parts to this. karl, i appreciate you being on top of this. who is this lady, this leader of the group? a lot of the people seem like good people. everyone wanted to rush down will and help. so why did she think she was qualified to do this? what do we know about this woman, laura sillsby. dan simon is on the ground in idaho. >> we can say laura operated a very successful website called personalshopper.com. it's still in business, but they've been struggled big-time. in the days before she went to that haiti, her world was collapsing. her home was foreclosed on. she lost her home on december 24th, a sing le mother with thre kids. her business, they couldn't pay her bills.
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we went to the court house this morning, a stack of lawsuits and people saying she hasn't paid her bills and several employees haven't been paid. we talked to brian jack who is technically still a manager at that business but doesn't know are know where things stands because he hasn't been paid. he said she's shady in terms of how she operates her business. listen to what brian jack had to say about laura and that trip to haiti. take a look. >> you know, in my heart i think she went down there with good intentions to help people in trouble, but it's a lack of foresight and planning. once again, she did that in her business life, and it seems to follow her in her personal life. >> wow. i mean, it's sad. it's just depressing. clearly she's got a lot of baggage and a lot going on in her own life, and the fact she's a single mom. but i mean, has she ever run an orphanage or any indication? do we know how this whole orp n
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orphanage idea got going? did she sell it to the church? how did that work? >> she came up with this idea a couple of years ago, and she actually hired her 24-year-old nanny to actually set up this orphanage. they started a foundation, and it was really in its infancy. they thought they would get down to the dominican republic down the road. the earthquake happens, and all of say should they want to get down here right away. she came to the church and met with the pastors and solicited donations and word came out does anybody want to go to haiti and set up the orphanage in the dominican republic. a few people raised their hands and say i want to go. so some of the people who actually went down with her only, you know, raised their hand 48 hours before any actually got on an airplane and were following her throughout the country. >> wow. that's incredible. i didn't realize that. a lot of church-goers who wanted
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to do the right thing. i understand why the defense attorney said, look, outs of the ten people, nine, you know, know nothing, if anybody has to say, it should be this woman, laura silsby. i appreciate you reporting on the ground there. we'll continue to follow the story. i want to point out, i mean, there are a lot of good people doing good work in haiti and probably even these people went down with good intentions, most of them. if you want to help haitian kids, there's many ways to do it. you don't have to take them ouft of the country. there's many orphanages one can support there. i mean, god knows there's certainly enough need and hundreds of thousands of kids in need. a sad footnote, a few months ago on larry king, the prime minister said it's 212,000. that's an estimate, because they're not counting the release early on. ahead tonight why a central figure in the economic meltdown in this country is facing criminal charges and they've
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the men running it at the time stand accused of defrauding all of us. the xharnlgs were brought in a civil suit. new york attorney general cuomo said they lied to shareholders about the merger with merrill lynch. the merger was approved by the former ceo and joe price and they tried to back out of the deal claiming merrill lynch's losses were too high and the only way to make it work is the government gave them billions of dollars in bailout cash which happened. cuomo says it's an arrogant scheme. it's not a criminal case, which
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raises the question, where's the justice in this? if no one does credit time if they're convicted. jeffrey toobin joins me now. why isn't this a criminal case? >> that's a good question. that's the broader question. think about the magnitude of this crisis. think about the damage that's been done, the amount of bailouts that have been been given over the course. not just to aig, but to all the banks. >> all the shady practices and bets that are gambling with other people's money that precipitated it all. >> that precipitated it, and the number of people who have gone to prison as a result of this entire scandal is zero. no one. >> there were guys from bear stearns. >> they were acquitted. that's the only trial that has even come out of this so far. the two traders at bear stearns were acquitted. in fairness to the justice department and other investigators, white collar investigations sometimes take a long time. so presumably things are in the works. think about two of these
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chashlgts who have gotten a lot of attention. richard fall, the head of lemann brothers, catastrophic failure. we don't know whether he's under investigation or committed a crime. he is -- you know, something has happened to him yet. joseph kasano, he's an elusive figure. it's hard to get a photograph of him. the daily mail of london got that one. he made $300 million. aig collapsed, and there's been no criminal case brought there. again, i don't want to accuse him of a crime, but it's worthy of investigation. no one has been prosecuted yet. >> and so why not -- if ken lewis can be charged civilly, is it easier to bring a civil charge? >> it is. the burden of proof is only a preponderance of the evidence. it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. so far the government is is not
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able to establish that this sipt just a bad luck mistake, everybody is trying to do their best but not fraud. that's the defense so far, and so far it's worked. >> what would be the potential penalty? civil is just a monetary fund. >> there are a lot of people doing a lot of time in prison for white collar crimes. the pemnalties are way up. the head of worldcom is doing more than 20 years. michael milken went to prison. >> a civil fine is just money. >> remember, bank of america is paying his legal fees, bank of america paid $150 million today to the s.e.c. to settle. >> taxpayer money is funding his legal fees, basically. >> the taxpayers are funding it indirectly, and the shareholders who in many respects are the victims of this are sub ssidizi.
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the money is churning, but the individuals involved have not paid any price at all other than public humiliation. >> if you're a stockholder, you're paying for his defense and bailout. >> three times if you count being a taxpayer. there you go. >> that's not a good thing. jeff toobin, appreciate it. thanks. troubled toyota more models in the spotlight tonight including the best built cars. we'll tell you which brands now are being looked at. tea party convention, and sarah palin is going. other activists are not going to the convention. we go inside the movement tonight and show you what it's about and who is driving it. we'll be right back. ameriprise financial can help. we have over ten-thousand advisors ready to listen to your dreams and help you plan for them. because the first step towards reaching what you want is reaching the person who can help you get there.
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sharks attacking off florida's coast. we'll tell you how it happened and why it happened. we'll check on other important stories. we have the "360 bulletin." james ray's attorney says his client doesn't have the money to make bail. ray is currently in jail on $5 ray is currently in yale on $5 million bond after pleading not guilty to manslaughter charges in the deaths of three people at a sweat lodge ceremony he led last year. there are more problems for toyota tonight. the company is looking into possible brake problems with its luxury lexus hybrid. this comes after the feds announced they're investigating more than 100 reports of brake failures in its 2010 priuses. toyota acknowledged a software glitch that caused braking problems in some of the 2010 priuses. lexus hybrids use the same breaking system. fears about a growing debt crisis in europe sending stocks tumbling. dow tumbled 268 points. that's the lowest closes we've
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seen in three months. nasdaq and s&p also ended the day down. president obama today saying, quote, we should take our time finalizing a health care bill. speaking at a democratic fund-raiser, he said he wants to go through the legislation in detail with republicans, democrats, as well as health care experts to see if there are better ways to improve the system. heinz has revamped its familiar ketchup packets. people complained they were too messy, too small, too hard to open and can't dip with them. >> oh, no. >> you don't like it? >> i don't know. i'll have to try it. >> first of all, it's bigger. it's three times as much ketchup. you can dip or squeeze. they're test marketing it. maybe they can send you some. they reportedly worked on this redesign for years which had some of our writers scratching their heads. why would it take so long? look at other familiar packets that managed to solve this problem. >> it does look like the other packets.
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>> maybe there's a fine point to it. i like the old squeeze ones. anyway, they were messy. >> had to use your teeth, right? >> yes. time for our beat 360 winners. daily challenge to viewers, caption for a photo we put on the blog. that's better than one we can up with. tonight's picture, the white house party crashers. tareq and michaele salahi pose at a usa polo event in australia. tareq is captain of the team, so he claims. our staff winner tonight, steve. i feel like going out on town. do you have directions to the prime minister's residence? viewer winner, linda, her caption, salahis arriving in melbourne, clear evidence that a major breakdown in australian airport security was occurred. i like that she's posing just like she did the way people pose in those photos, sort of unnatural stance. >> very awkward, right? the other thing, too, i guess there's not a lot of cardio
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involved. clearly her favorite color is red. >> apparently so. she knows where the camera is. join the live chat at ac 360.com. welcome to the tea party. the grassroots movement has grown up holding its first national convention. spread far and fast over the last year. over the next two nights we'll bring you the raw politics. saying good-bye is never easy. no matter how cuddly and cute, every butter stick has to grow up. the pandas are leaving. i'll tell you why. rethinking what pain reliever you should be taking? fact: for over 25 years... in test after test, advil has been shown to be safe and effective when taken as directed. get the facts... go to advil.com
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plastics which are lighter and advanced hydrogen technologies that could increase fuel efficiency by up to 80%. a milestone in raw politics today. the grassroots movement known as the tea party is holding its
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first national convention. the meeting began today in nashville. randi kaye is there. a live report from her in a moment. it sprang up quickly, the moment did last year. we put together a timeline of key moments, last february you may remember anger over the first stimulus package and bailouts triggered protests across the country. april, 2009, after tax day protests in 300 cities. the event publicized by top conservatives on twitter and conservative blogs and taxdayteaparty.com coordinated the event. in august during the congressional recess outraged building over health care reform and town hall meetings every other day or so there were fistfights, anger was escalating. in september ibig raly to protest health care reform. hundreds of independent tea party groups have sprung up. members are competing political ideas and views, but they're united around a common cause. over the next couple nights in "welcome to the tea party" we'll be drilling down deeper. joining me, john avalon,
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columnist for the dailybeast.com. and author of "wing nuts." it has changed, the tea party movement, in some ways over the last year. >> it has. this began as a grassroots fiscal conservative protest. over the course of the summer it got increasingly radicalized. some conservative activists advocating conservatives start using rules for radical and see them start to embrace street-theater politics. politics of confrontation. the woel whole thing got uglier. just because the guys with the obama equals hitler signs get the attention doesn't mean it describes the whole movement. >> it's easy to dismiss the movement. it's inappropriate and would be foolish. there are people of -- who have never been involved -- what's so interesting about it there are people who have never been involved in the political process who really feel energized in a way we haven't seen before. >> that's hugely important. put yourself in the shoes of the small business owner participating in protests for the first time. ask yourself why. while he was struggling to pay
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his bills on time last spring he saw big business and big government run up huge debts and pass the buck on to the back of the taxpayer. that made average folks angry for a good reason. there's a common sense anger about deficits they say, hey, this is generational theft. this is unsustainable. it's important to understand where these folks are coming from and not just be distracted. >> the issue of fiscal responsibility is the most common theme you find linking a lot of these groups. >> absolutely. that is the common ground. >> and individual rights and fiscal responsibility. >> you know, there are many different tributaries to this movement. the common ground that exists is fiscal conservatism. it is a reaction against overspending and growth of government. >> a lot of the -- the critics of it will say, well, where were some of these people under the bush years when the deficits were growing exponentially, you know, not as much as they are growing now but were growing hugely. you didn't hear the grassroots anger about it.
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>> i think that's a very fair and important point. you talk to the folks who say, we were angry the way conservatives overspent during the bush years when they had unified control over washington. it took a couple days into the new administration and the anger started percolating at a new level. different kind of arena. you can't underestimate this is a reaction to the obama administration. >> this national convention, frankly, is a couple splinter groups but other groups like dick armey's group isn't taking part. there are some sort of fissures in it that have come up. >> that's exactly right. i mean, this is a for-profit convention. that is hugely controversial. >> sarah palin is getting $100,000 for her speech. >> 100,000 for her primetime banquet address on saturday night. tea partiers, take a lot of pride in the fact this is a leaderless movement and when folks seize the limelight they get angry. they see this as being a grassroots movement. that's where a lot of the
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misinformation has seeped in. there's no coordinated message. it's part of what makes it a genuine populous movement. it's what has made it hard to appreciate now. >> what happens to it now? does it become a third party? does it -- clearly the gop is hoping to embrace -- you had this quote from john boehner the other day. john boehner said house minority leader said there's no difference between what republicans believe and what tea party activists believe in. clearly a lot of players in the republican party are hoping that to embrace the tea partyers and a lot of tea partyers are hoping they will bring the gop back to conservative roots. >> you have conservative activists who want to surf this wave into power. that's one of the interesting things here. a lot of people can inflate tea partyiers and an independent the voter. tea partyiers are conservative populists, to the right of the
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republican party. most independent voters are in between the democratic party and republican party. a lot of tea partyers would like to see more polarization in washington. there's a further irony here. look at the way the republicans are trying to set themselves to take power back in 2010. look at scott brown. the idea republicans could take ted kennedy's seat, play for obama and biden's seat. they are the people tea partyers would have called rhinos in years past. mike kirk, mike castle. they're pro chief-choice republicans. what's going on in the anger doesn't really account for what's going on in the real grassroots. >> appreciate it. we're going it be covering this for the next couple nights. you're going to meet one of the people behind the tea party movement. he's a guy who never paid much attention to politics until the day he decided he had enough. take a look at what his personal tipping point was. tonight's "shot." parting ways with the panda. sad day for those who knew and loved them. they're all right. they're just moving on. we'll tell you where they're going. oh sure, we have plenty of employees that...
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for the next two nights, welcome to the tea party. grassroots movement that exploded across the nation last year. today in nashville tea partyers kicked off their first convention. it runs through saturday. sarah palin is the keynote speaker. tickets pricey compared to similar conventions. that's caused some controversy. the movement is made up of hundreds of different groups. members are diverse. tonight we wanted to introduce you to one of them. here's randi kaye. >> reporter: this is the moment bob porto started to change. it was september 2008. >> when the bank came calling and said, you're going to pay us, i'm like, how? >> reporter: with what?
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>> how do you come up with that kind of money? >> reporter: so began bob porto's journey. his home building business dried up. and the bank wanted its $300,000 loan back on this house. >> there are those that are said to be too big to fail. and then there are those like myself who are too small to save. we need to focus on the real america which are the people, the people who are unemployed. >> reporter: frustrated with his bank and his government, wondering why all that bailout money was bypassing everyday people like him, porto did something that changed his world. he co-founded a tea party in his county. and today he's chairman of the largest tea party in arkansas. what does the tea party mean to you? >> tea party is a voice. the tea party are concerned citizens that felt left out of the system, that they weren't being listened to, that when -- it doesn't matter if it's a
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republican or a democrat. they're not listening to we, the people. >> reporter: bob says he never paid much attention to politics until now. in the past year or so he's probably protested here at the arkansas state capitol about a dozen times and like most members of the tea party bob is fighting for an end to government spending and an end to big government. before all this bob porto says he was an ordinary guy, a home builder married to the same woman for 30 years. two daughters, two cats, one named spot. now he's a new voice in the most watched, most talked about political movement sweeping the country. porto hasn't had a paycheck in more than a year. it's time, he says, for america to rise up. i've heard a lot of independents, a lot of tea partyers say we want to take our country back. >> uh-huh. >> do you feel that way? >> i do. i do. we want to instill the fact the founding fathers gave us values and in those values were the
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basic foundations that created the greatness that america has experienced. bob porto in here with -- >> reporter: bob porto talks about freedom a lot. he says the government is trampling on his. >> there's an overburden in regulations. there's -- any time that we look at what the government imposes upon us that limits us then we are losing our freedom. >> reporter: to porto the federal government, the republicans and democrats, don't meet his needs. and spend too much. too much spending for you? >> what's that old saying? if the outgo exceeds the income then the upkeep is the downfall? how do you spend your way out of debt? this is for we, the people. >> reporter: as for those in washington who say tea partyers' opposition to the government makes them un-american? so how do you feel about the tea partyiers being called
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un-american? >> i think it will speak for itself when you look at the people and you see what they stand for and you take the time to visit with us. we're just americans. we're patriotic. we believe that what made america great in its past that we want to take that same energy and make america great again. >> reporter: for this generation and those that will follow. >> you said there's a lot of different groups. is bob going to the convention in nashville? is he there? >> reporter: no, anderson. he's not here. he said he couldn't afford it. he couldn't afford the airfare, he couldn't afford the hotel room. he went to washington, d.c., for a tea party event not too long ago and 15 people chipped in to send him there. this is a guy, anderson, watching the bankers get their bonuses. he's been cutting back on food for his family. you truck we were driving in during our story with him, that
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truck has 135,000 miles on it. the speedometer doesn't work. they're frustrated, want to move the country forward. they're tired of seeing the politicians pay more attention to the parties than the people. >> randi, appreciate it. go to ac360.com to read ed rollins take on tea parties and why incumbents on capitol hill should be worried. maybe they should learn about them. kite surfer killed by sharks. officials say he was literally surrounded by them. latest on this story ahead. much lighter note. the great panda good-bye. tai, shan the star of the national zoo is leaving the country. we'll tell you where she's going and take a look back at how many people watched the panda grow up.
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get caught up on other top stories. we have the 360 bulletin. >> there's new information tonight in the death of actress brittany murphy. the los angeles coroner's office ruling the 32-year-old died of pneumonia, anemia and overdose of prescription medication. murphy went into cardiac arrest at her home back in december. her death has been ruled an accident. a deadly shark attack in florida, it was a kite surfer killed wednesday off the coast of stuart beach, about 100 miles north of miami. authorities say the experienced kite surfer was a quarter mile out from shore when he was surrounded by several sharks, bitten multiple times and later died at the hospital. taking the oath on capitol hill, scott brown sworn in today as senator from massachusetts. the republican who won the seat in part on a wave of tea party sentiment, pledged to do the best job he can. his victory brings an end to the democrat 60 seat supermajority. in australia there is bad
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news for '80s band men at work. a judge ruling a flute solo, there you hear it, from one of their biggest hits "down under" was actually stolen from a nursery rhyme. an australian schoolteacher, it was actually the estate for the schoolteacher. she passed away in 1988. they say they were sued for unpaid royalties. do you think it was stolen? let's listen. ♪ >> are you kidding? that sounds nothing like it. does that sound like it to you? >> no. i don't think so at all. what the heck happened here? they were very upset, by the way. they say it's just not true. >> also, this was back in 1980, what, 4? i remember the '80s, this is when that song come out. did the estate lawyers not know this song was around? i don't understand why it took so long for them to -- >> i don't know. it doesn't sound anything like
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it. there's some sort of weird bird in the background of that song. sounds nothing like a flute. >> for tonight's shot, we watched them grow and play and we say farewell to two giant pandas. this is tai shan rolled in a container who is on the way to china. the 4-year-old male was born at the national zoo in washington. also onboard, 3-year-old mai lon born at the zoo atlanta. they belong to china as part of the agreement between the two countries. they're endangered animals, of course. tai shan's nickname is butterstick because that's how small he was at birth. francis win has grown close to tai shan, taken thousands of photographs with him. want to show you some of them tonight. we want to hear why butterstick is so special. watch. >> when i first saw tai shan my jaw just dropped, and i was like
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oh, my god. there's no words to describe the feeling. tai shan is a little angel. he's very engaging. his eyes are beautiful and you feel connected to him. when i watch the interaction between him and his mother, the way he cares and nurtures him, so patient, and he's this rambunctious bear that's playful and never gives up and full of confidence. he's brought me a community of friendship and even i found love. rambunctious bear, he brought me a community of friendship and i met my husband at the panda exhibit and my mom always said, you're never going to meet a guy, all you do is spend your time at the zoo taking pictures but i did what i love and love was right in front of me. pandas love being in the snow. he's so excitable. he rolls down the hill with the snow. this picture is very special to me. when i was taking the picture i didn't realize that tai was looking at me but i felt his big eyes and it was just incredible to be that close to him, to hear him breathe. i have two hearts when it comes to tai going to china.
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there's a side of me that feels a great loss as if you're losing your own child. and there's a side of me that thinks that it's for the better of the future, and his future, and to spread his genes, but he's left me with a lot of gifts and a lot of good karma. it's ironic because the last week i found out i was pregnant and that's the week i found out before he's leaving. it's like one child gone and one child leaving. i felt like that was a gift from him. >> i wouldn't be surprised if she named her child tai shan. >> really cute. coming up at the top of the hour, new claims that the ten missionaries knew what they were doing or at least the leader did whether they tried to take 33 kids out of the haiti. kids out of the haiti. we'll be right back. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com yeah, all right. this way. and here it is. completely networked. so, anything happening, suz? she's all good. oh, my gosh. is that my car?
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