that confronted children in this birmingham park. think of the courage of dr. king and others, who fought for basic human rights, many of which we take for granted today, enduring bombings and beatings, jail, and eventually death, in the hopes of making the nation better for the rest of us today. >> larry: tonight -- prime-time exclusive. brittany murphy's husband and mother on her shocking death at 32. >> i thought it would be me, not her. >> she said, mom, i'm dying. i love you. >> the coroner said drugs played a role and she didn't have to die. >> larry: do you

fear the toxicology might say an overdose of prescription medication? is that possible? >> no. >> larry: brittany murphy's loved ones share their side of the story and what they witnessed on the day she died. >> you just saw the life go out of her. >> larry: next on "larry king live." good evening. the los angeles coroner ruled thursday that brittany murphy's death was accidental, a combination of pneumonia and iron deficiency and what he calls multiple drug intoxication. by the way, these were not illegal drugs. we interview eed brittany's husband simon montag and sharon murphy on january 14th, before the cause of death was known. their remarks about drugs and brittany's health and her lifestyle are even more compelling now that we know what killed her. >> let's go back a little, sharon. brittany, she always wanted to be in show business, didn't she, as a kid?

>> yes. >> larry: where did she grow up? >> in new jersey. >> larry: where? >> edison, new jersey. >> larry: i know edison. >> you do. >> larry: and you raised her as a single mom? >> yes. >> larry: what happened to her dad? >> well, he was never around. it was just us. >> larry: she had no father growing up? >> no. >> larry: did she always want to be in show business? >> yes, and she was very, very tiny, and she just came out of me a showperson. >> larry: was she the kind of kid who danced and sang when she was in kindergarten? that kind of kid? >> yes. she started in dance school and musical comedy classes when she was little because she always had so much energy, and it was just -- she just loved it and had so much fun in regional theater growing up. >> larry: how did you come to bring her out here? >> well, when she was 12 and a

half, the studio she was studying at, fowler school of the performing arts in new jersey, there was a playbill on the board, and she called and made an appointment with the manager of the person, and i took her in, and they accepted her and she went on commercials in new york, and then they were opening up in los angeles for pilot season. so she came out with a chaperone for two months. it was the first time she was ever without me. >> larry: so she had training? >> you know, no. no. >> larry: new jersey. yeah. what was her first professional break? >> well, she did a few commercials when she first started in new york, and then i think a television show right after she asked me to come out

to los angeles. she begged me to come out and i sold everything within a couple of weeks. >> larry: wow. so you lived for her? >> yes. >> as single parents do. there were no other children? >> no. >> larry: we want to show the audience -- if you're not familiar with this wonderful talent, her breakout movie role was in the 1995 comedy hit, "clueless." it starred alicia silverstone. brittany plays alicia's dorky style challenged pal. here's a clip. >> look. i have been in agony the past week, and i can't even believe i went off the way i did. >> no. i have been going off on a shane spiral. i can't believe i was so unsupportive of your feelings for josh. >> no, you are entitled to your own opinion here. i'm the tart here. >> you've been nothing but super nice to me. >> if it wasn't for me you wouldn't have liked that loser elton. i'm so sorry. >> i'm really sorry. i'm going to go ahead and cry. >> let's never fight again, okay?

>> totally. >> larry: she was a natural. >> yeah. that was her first movie. >> larry: that meant a lot to her, right? >> yeah. >> larry: that sort of emerged her, in a sense? it blossomed her right on the scene, she had a lot of good reviews. in the years following, she really transformed her looks, right? >> yes. >> larry: she became blond, she became thin. was that all by design? >> not she became thin, she was always the same weight. it's just she went through most, like young teenagers change when they're 12 or 13. >> larry: was she difficult? >> with her it was more 15 or 16. and she did this when she was 15. >> larry: she didn't become one of those, i'm a star? >> never. no, no.

>>. >> larry: i forget forget -- haven't forgotten you, simon. >> no, she was absolutely not. she never went through a teenage period. no, she was just loving and kind and beautiful. >> larry: before we get to the later years, one more scene i want to show you. as you know, brittany mostly was associated with lighter roles, but she also took on some darker, more dramatic parts. this is one of the best thrillers i ever saw. it was a great book and a hell of a movie. "don't say a word." watch. >> you want what they want. don't you? >> what who wants? elizabeth? what who wants? >> i'll never tell. i'll never tell.

any of you. any of you. any of you. >> larry: after that movie was made, mike douglas, who was in it, of course, he was the star of that movie, told me how much he thought of your daughter and what a terrific talent she was. then she made other terrific movies. >> she loved him, too, so much. >> larry: how did you come into the picture, simon? when did you meet? >> i met brittany when brittany was 17. we kept in touch over the years. >> larry: how did you meet her? >> i took her photograph. >> larry: you were a photographer? >> part-time. it was a hobby. we just became friends. >> larry: it was friendly. >> it was friendly for years. yeah.

i visited her on sets and would see sharon. it was very -- she was infectious. an infectious angel. >> larry: the romance was later? >> the romance was later. honestly, brittany didn't date until she was in her early 20s. >> larry: really. >> never, no. she just was not -- >> larry: wrapped up in her career? >> it wasn't that. it was that sharon was there, she wasn't -- she was a late bloomer. >> that's what i was saying with late blooming, that she was always the smallest in her class and the most petite and the latest. although highly intelligent. way above everyone at her level. >> larry: you can't be that good without being intelligent. >> no. >> larry: we're going to take a break and before we go, the autopsy was performed. i'm going to ask about that. no evidence or trauma to the body. we'll talk about the death and what happened and how they're dealing with it.

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stranger at a bar, brought her back to our honeymoon suite and took off her disgusting red bra. >> nothing happened, i swear. >> no, the bra just jumped off her naked breasts. >> sarah. >> you sit there and make me feel guilty for a kiss, a kiss i didn't even want in the first place. >> don't tell me you didn't want it. you wanted it. i could see in the balcony that you wanted it. >> i'm sorry. >> larry: how you doing, simon? how you holding up? >> i don't think i am. i don't think either of us are. >> no. >> you wake up in the morning and it's like a rebirth. there is not enough time to -- your dreams, be they good or bad when they wake up, and i reach out to touch or hold my wife.

and she isn't there. >> larry: were you surprised at the public outpouring? >> yes. >> larry: the reaction to her death was enormous. >> it was unbelievable. i think brittany would have been surprised. more than anybody. i think it was her career by her own admission in the last few years, five or six, had taken a downturn. >> larry: do you know why? >> it's funny, brittany and i spoke about this often. she had her theories. rumor. >> larry: what was the theory? >> the theory was that she had upset the wrong people at the wrong time and there was, you know -- >> larry: is she the kind of person who said what she thought? >> oh, yeah. >> larry: that can rub people the wrong way in hollywood. >> but she was the kindest, sweetest person. i think it was more she was too kind, too sweet. she was like this bubble that existed in a plane beyond ours. >> larry: do you think there was

a downturn, sharon? and if so, why? >> yes, there was. for probably the last maybe five years. i got really sick, and i had cancer twice, and she had initially taken off to be with me in the hospital and slept there every day for five weeks i was there, and was just with me always and, you know, controlling all the doctors and making sure all the right things were done. you know, i just never dreamed that -- i always thought it would be me, not her. >> larry: to show the impact she had, her ex-boyfriend, ashton kutcher, a very publicized romance, wrote on his twitter when brittany died, today the world lost a little bit of sunshine. my deepest condolences go out to brittany's family, her husband

and her amazing mother, sharon. see you on the other side, kid. they got along, huh? >> oh, yeah. >> there was no -- i spoke to ashton after she died. it was toneny -- funny because i tried to stay off the computer -- sharon tries to make me stay off the computer, and ashton, when i read that, it -- i immediately read it to sharon and i think that was the first time we actually managed a half smile. >> yes. >> larry: what about the tabloid stories? headlines like "brittany's dark, final days," "brittany's demons." "why is her husband and what is he hiding"? what do you make of all of that? how did you react to that? >> as any man would. with absolute devastation. >> larry: were you shocked?

>> no, because when we were married, there was a whole lot of nonsense. >> larry: how did you react? >> i never had the television on or read anything. no, they kept me completely away from everything. >> sharon was just very conscious that i wouldn't read too much of them. let me tell you about brittany's final days. >> larry: please. >> that's just so false and crazy. >> brittany was -- i believe she certainly told me and her mother, who she had no secrets from, that she and i found love together. whether or not i owned a bank in england or had a deal on this or that or the other, i paid my own way and sharon will attest to that. in the home brittany was lavished with gifts, she would go to chicago, she went to louis vuitton, and i got a look at the receipt and it was $62,000 and i said, you got to be kidding me,

but she said, oh, we got to get a purse for my mom. and i said, okay, and did you get clothes? she loved clothes and i loved to dress her. >> larry: what were her last days like? >> her last days were full of the academy screeners, being in a soft pink fluffy beverly hills robe, her mom coming and bringing her soup and laying on the sofa next to the bed. >> she wasn't sick? she wasn't sick? >> she had a little laryngitis. >> larry: did she have any movie roles lined up? >> she did. >> larry: what happened the day she died? where were you? >> i was in bed next to brittany. sharon had come down. >> larry: you were living in the house? >> she lived with us. >> i was always there. my daughter and i lived together always. it was the three of us. >> that's why these rumors are so ludicrous.

>> larry: clear them up. what happened? >> what happened that day was brittany had laryngitis. i have no idea what to do with laryngitis. i'm a rabbi, not a doctor. i pray instead of prescribe. so i asked sharon to come down. we had been talking, anyway, half the night, so she had only been up stairs by 2:00. we planned to move to new york, have a baby -- >> we were talking about names for the baby. >> we were talking about baby names. >> larry: you were trying to have a baby. >> no, but it was all part -- we had this 3.5-year romance. >> larry: let me take a break and tell us about that horrible day. we'll be right back. need a lift? hey, buddy, i appreciate the ride, you know? no problem. mind if i take a shortcut? yeah, sure. [ tires screech ] ♪

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we're back with simon monjack, brittany murphy's husband, and her mother sharon. back to that day. >> i asked sharon to come down. sharon came down. brittany, for the first time, was almost fighting for air. her eyes were not right. they were darting off left, right and center. let me explain for the record, a declarative statement, my wife had not taken any drugs that could harm her that morning. that is for -- i will -- >> larry: no drug overdose? >> please. brittany is scared to take -- >> larry: she never had a drug problem? >> she had a heart murmur, so she couldn't take anything. >> larry: all she had was the

laryngitis leading into that morning? >> leading into the morning. that morning, she woke up and she couldn't breathe. she went out to get some air, sharon followed her out. i'll say this because i know you can't. she said, mom, i'm dying. i love you. >> larry: mom, i'm dying. i love you? she knew she was dying? >> this was about an hour before. >> no, you've forgotten time. >> oh? >> and then she ran to the bathroom. brittany's safehaven was the bathroom. i was almost pleased she was in the bathroom. that meant she was pulling herself together, reading vogue and putting on lipstick. that was brittany, you know? >> larry: then what? >> then sharon screamed, simon! i ran as fast as my large frame will take me and she's on the floor. i reached for the chest -- i had watched sanjay gupta not a week

before say this is the right way to give cpr. no more mouth to mouth, just the heel, and so i planted it -- >> larry: did it on this show. we had a plastic model here. >> that's right. that was the show. i'm sorry. i apologize. so i knew exactly from dr. gupta what to do. so i said to sharon, call 911. there was a slight pulse, ever so faint. and i was just pushing, using the rhythm that dr. gupta had counted, and poor sharon was stuck on the phone for 8.5 minutes. she was crying and screaming -- >> larry: calling who? >> she was on with the 911 operator. >> wouldn't let me go. >> trying to pass to me the instructions. >> larry: were you able to explain to 911 what the problem was? >> i just knew that from when she collapsed, i was with her in the bathroom.

and i was sitting across from her with her little puppy, clara, and she said, mom, please hug me. and i went to get up and she just collapsed, like right there. and that's when i screamed for simon. >> larry: did you do cpr? >> i did cpr from the minute my wife collapsed until the minute the paramedic walked in the door. >> larry: did they get there quickly? >> define quickly. they were there in nine minutes. >> larry: where is it, beverly hills? beverly hills is three minutes. >> i know. >> one block from beverly hills. >> larry: nine minutes is a little long, maybe. what did they do? >> they put a breathing tube in, ushered sharon and i out of the way. i drove -- they were taking her to cedars sinai. i got in the car.

in my pajamas, now legendary. we drove down, they knew exactly who we were when we got there. we were shown into a waiting room with the chairs and green wallpaper, and a young doctor gave us updates. and at one stage he took me aside and said, if i revive her now, you know she'll have brain damage. do you want me to stop? and i said, no. i don't. the power of medicine is so strong now. >> larry: you wanted him to keep going? >> if there was life, we would find a way to keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. finally at 10:04, they came in and said she didn't make it. >> larry: 10:04 a.m.? >> 10:04 a.m. >> larry: were you there when they said she didn't make it? >> three people came in. sharon and i were holding each other. and they let us know at the same time that she hadn't made it.

>> we knew before that. you saw the life go out of her. >> larry: this is a 32-year-old, previously healthy woman? >> previously healthy with the exception of a mitral valve prolapse. >> larry: what is that? >> that is a heart murmur. >> larry: that must have led you to think it was a heart problem? >> i knew it was arrhythmia. when she had a cold she couldn't take anything that would excite the heart. we knew the rules. we had taken her to the best cardiologists. we had workups done, they said it's a heart murmur, that's it >> 30% of women had it, it's natural, it's nothing, you just take antibiotics before you get your teeth cleaned. nothing showed up. >> larry: were you concerned about her weight? had she lost a lot of weight? >> no, she weighed 115 pounds. >> larry: 115, for how tall? >> 5'3" and a half.

>> larry: that would be important. any eating problems? >> eating problems? >> larry: any problems than the heart arrhythmia you knew about. >> she had a big eating problem. she had refined tastes. it had to be this thai restaurant, this chinese restaurant, the four seasons, or the beverly hills hotel. if you define that as an eating problem my wife had an eating problem. >> larry: a lucrative eating problem? >> exactly. >> larry: we'll be right back. about what? our erectile dysfunction. shh...no...i don't want to talk about it. look, you're not alone, millions of men with ed have talked to their doctors. i don't know... we can do this. okay... (announcer) talking to your doctor about ed may be the last thing you want to do, but it's definitely a conversation worth having. twenty million men have had their viagra talk. when you're ready for yours... you'll find helpful tips on talking to your doctor

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>> all i'm looking for is a ticket. >> larry: we're back with simon monjack and sharon murphy. you didn't want an autopsy at first? >> no. >> larry: are you a religious orthodox? >> it wasn't that. i could blame the religion. the easiest thing to do. there was this woman who just lost her daughter, who to us was such a shock, this pristine body, curvy in all the right places, skin like slick, and how could i say in front of her mother, cut her up? >> i mean, it was just unphantomble. >> larry: so what did they do? >> they cut her up, anyway. >> larry: why? >> because that's the law. a 32-year-old dies without any illness -- and we want to know. we've spent many -- >> larry: you're conflicted? you don't want her cut up but you want some finality, right? >> well, yeah, but at that moment -- >> at that moment, a wife and daughter just died and they said

they want to do an autopsy. >> they said, do you want an autopsy? we're like -- >> the press seems to think we should be androids, that we shouldn't feel. the press don't understand loss. they don't know what it is to have one day the liveliest, most beautiful girl, sit and play, and she would fall asleep under the piano and sharon would come and sit there and listen to choppen prelude and then you come home to darkness. >> larry: were there paparazzi at the hospital? >> no, there was paparazzi outside the house. >> larry: when you got back home? >> somehow the world knew before we did. >> larry: you were getting calls and there were paparazzi at the house when you got back home, leaving the body at the hospital? >> yes. >> larry: was she buried? >> yes. >> larry: where? >> at forest lawn. >> larry: did you have a ceremony? a large ceremony?

>> very, very small. actually, we couldn't function at all, simon and myself, and my sister and -- brittany's aunt and cousin came in, her cousin was 18, her and her best friend hayley did all the preparations. and came back -- >> it was funny. brittany was never an early person and we scheduled the funeral at a certain time so it would be over and people wouldn't be walking around in the dark. but there was a beauty to it, as i said, garish. the lights of burbank started just to twinkle ever so slightly and day turned to night. >> larry: how many people came? >> 30. >> yeah, it was very small. >> larry: we'll be back with more, this special edition of "larry king live." don't go away. ♪ ♪

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>> they were for me. >> larry: your name would have been on the bottle. that is bad reporting. >> that is bad reporting. >> larry: number two, britney suffered a seizure in detroit. she was allergic to artificial smoke. >> larry: how did tmz get the bottles? >> i don't know. we are exploring a lawsuit against the coroner. there's no way tmz should know -- >> larry: they didn't get into your house? >> if they did, then -- >> larry: did any authorities open up the medicine cabinet? >> we. we opened our house to the authorities. the authorities came and said do you have secrets? i said no. the bedroom. sharon said, they didn't have a search warrant. i said, what do we have to hide? >> larry: do you fear the toxicology might say an overdose of prescription medication? is that possible that neither of you know she took too many of one substance one night? >> no.

>> brittany -- >> larry: is that possible? >> listen to me. brittany was a monkey. >> larry: meaning. >> if she wasn't clinging to me she was clinging to her mom or the dog. she had it to be loved. and i don't mean that in a co-dependent way, she was one of the strongest, most beautiful women i've ever met, but she was a little monkey. she didn't have any secrets. there's no locks on any of our cabinets. there's no locks on the doors. it would be impossible. >> larry: now, is it true she was dogged for years by drug abuse rumors? >> what happened was there was a blind item issued by one of these idiots saying the day after she fired a powerful manager, saying that one hollywood starlet had gone to a bar mitzvah and had

performed fellacio on a waiter at the bar mitzvah. and "the new york post" the next day ran it was brittany murphy >> larry: performing fellacio on a waiter at a barmitzvah? >> yes. >> larry: were you married to her at the time? >> no. she rang me and said what do i do? >> larry: they identified her by name? >> they got involved and retracted it on page 32. >> larry: singer represented her? >> yeah. so it was a very, very difficult -- >> it was vicious. >> larry: how did she handle that. >> when the dismissal of her reputati reputation, immediately the next morning. >> larry: dismissed her manager, agent? >> there was just. >> larry: did she spread the rumor sts. >> i'm not going to say that. i'm going to say hollywood has their own machine. >> larry: how did she react to all of this? >> that i can tell you that.

she would cry. you want to know who broke brittany murphy's heart? hollywood broke brittany murphy's heart. i'll give you one example. brittany made $350 million for "happy feet." the animated cartoon. >> larry: she made that much money? >> not for her, for the studio. she made $3.20, what do i know? >> larry: good movie. >> the sequel is about to be made. they make an offer and then someone or other hears a blog, i don't know his name. runs that she was fired from a movie in puerto rico. "i was inebriated and fighting puerto ricans." so they pull the offer. >> it was vicious. >> after she had been gloria for -- >> larry: from the second movie. >> from the second movie. >> larry: because of that item? >> because of some stupid item

and her bathroom breaks were a bit long. lig. >> larry: her what? >> bathroom breaks were a bit long. this is warner brothers. this is the ludicrousness of what i'm saying to you. >> larry: how did she deal with all of this? >> she cried and cried and cried. she was a flower. >> larry: did she have a good press agent? there are some great press agents. >> i don't know anything about the industry. it was pretty much brittany and i listened to what we were advised. >> larry: was she diabetic? >> hypoglycemic. she had to eat a lot. >> larry: more about this tragedy after this. but five minutes ago, i took symbicort, and symbicort is already helping significantly improve my lung function. so, today, i've noticed a significant difference in my breathing. and i'm doing more of what i want to do. so we're clear -- it doesn't replace a rescue inhaler

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of the month, so i would describe it as erratic. brittany had very difficult time every month, and everyone used to duck and run for cover. >> she had horrific cramps. i mean she was really -- i had the same thing. >> but underneath all that was a happy girl looking forward to new york to have a baby. >> she had found love. >> larry: you? >> her mother will attest to that. it was the happiest time of her life. when she died i spoke to her ex-boyfriend because she asked me to. she said, if anything ever happens to me, do this, this and this. and i did, i made the calls. >> larry: what did her ex-boyfriend say? we know what one thought. >> everyone said the same thing. she brought light, she brought light. she was an angel. >> larry: what about her girlfriends? >> she was very -- i don't want

to say hermetic because that's the wrong word. >> larry: she didn't hang around with the hollywood set? >> never. >> one of my favorite headlines is brittany, the number one party girl of 2006. she hadn't been out that year. >> she never went out. >> larry: she wasn't in the paris hilton, lindsay lohan group. >> there's a wonderful comment by jamie presley who said, were you close to brittany murphy? and she said, i was until she went with him. i asked sharon, did she know jamie presley? >> no. >> larry: broken engagements were not bad breakups, is that what you're saying? >> no. they were very short relationships like six weeks, maybe two months. it was pretty much -- well, i mean she was never in love. whoever sought her out, she kind of ended up with.

except for when simon came. >> larry: she liked being chased? >> no, she didn't even think about it because it wasn't part of her life. she didn't date. you know, she didn't -- it was. >> larry: she had a relationship, stayed in and then broke up. she didn't see ten different guys in ten different days? >> never. it was her that ended the relationship. >> larry: on that flight back from puerto rico you got sick? >> i had a heart attack, yeah. >> larry: how are you now? >> he's -- >> not doing too well. >> i don't know if i'm heart broken or heart broken. >> larry: you had a heart attack on the plane? >> high heart stopped. a 911 call that says his heart is stopped. we don't know if we can revive him. >> larry: how about the speculation, one of the reasons for your marriage, was to avoid getting deported? because you had an expired visa?

>> no. our marriage was for love. >> larry: had you heard that one? >> i heard i was kidnapped. i heard brittany paid the ransom. i heard i was going to be deported. i heard that i owed millions and billions of dollars. i have a green card. surely people realize that, you know, i love that i'm quite happy that the federal government are quite happy with me that "us weekly" finds a problem. the con man that supports his wife. >> larry: back with more. >> it's ludicrous. >> a strange story. don't go away. so i was the guy who was never going to have the heart attack.

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we know this could not be easy. how about stories that you are a svengali, a controlling factor? >> a svengali? >> larry: yeah. >> i should be so lucky. so you're telling me a woman -- >> larry: i'm telling you stories that were printed. >> larry, you've got a girl that's made 32 movies. quite happily before i came along. a svengali? >> larry: was she the breadwinner in the marriage? >> of course not. >> oh, no. >> larry: so you earned your own living? >> larry, please. >> he wouldn't let her -- us pay a dime for anything. >> larry: another report, again, these are all tabloid, but i'm just telling you what -- that you -- you were the beneficiary of the entire estate. >> correct. >> larry: sharon. >> there was a will drawn two days after brittany's and my nuptials, marriage. i insisted everything be left to sharon. and i signed away all rights under spousal law in california. >> larry: now another report was

she was penniless. if she was penniless, how was there an estate? >> penniless? >> larry: there was a report there was no money. >> really? >> larry: yeah. >> good job i was around, then. >> larry: did you get a -- was it a sizable estate? >> we haven't begun to add it up. >> i really don't -- we're not even there yet. >> larry, we have clung to each other. >> it's been weeks. >> we cry day after day after day. i lay and i look at the ceiling. my mother-in-law comes in with neuropathy shaking, needing to be held. you think we're doing math? >> honestly. >> i mean, come on. >> larry: i'm just dealing with what's reported. it's not my cup of tea. i'm just asking. >> and i'm just telling you, we're not doing math. we're eating, we're living, i'm paying the bills. we haven't even looked at brittany's estate yet. when we do we will, but until

then my mother-in-law is my priority. you know, i lost a wife. there's no mitzvah -- >> larry: how's your health now? how's your health? you had cancer. >> couple times. >> larry: you had a heart attack. >> yeah. we're a good couple. we're going to take it on the road. >> together we make a whole person maybe. >> she has neuropathy which needs curing. that is where the chemotherapy is mixed with another drug to damage the nervous system. she is not good. she is not well. >> larry: and are you being treated for your heart? >> i'm being treated for several things. >> larry: when we come back, we'll find out what now. for monjack and murphy. they're forever entwined. don't go away. taken government bailout money, yet no one knows our name. ♪ get down tonight that's about to change. so you'll pay for the tour, but i have to change my name? no, you're still kc, but from now on, they will be the sun life band.

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i am proud to be an american because living in a country where lady liberty always keeps her flame burning bright. she always keeps her flame burning bright, makes me proud to be an american. >> larry: where do you two go from here? >> well, we stay together for now. because --

>> larry: are you going to go to england or stay here? >> i would never leave my mother-in-law. are you crazy? >> larry: are you going to stay here, sharon? >> in los angeles? >> larry: or go to new jersey? >> no, we'd -- brittany never wanted to stay here except for work. so -- >> larry: you go back east? >> well, i'm -- >> we have a job to do. it's called the brittany murphy foundation for young people, for education, for things like what's going on in haiti. so that we will be able to keep brittany's memory, when all the tabloids have gone out of business -- >> larry: forming it now? >> fs being formed. >> larry: let us know all about it. let us know how people can get in touch with it. >> absolutely will. there's an e-mail which is donate@bamfoundation.com. >> larry: bamfoundation.com. what's your favorite memory of your daughter, sharon? when you think of her, what do you think of? >> everything.

i mean, because she was so -- just a loving, beautiful angel that just was -- had the biggest heart in the world and was so giving and kind and precious. we were one. we were inseparable. we grew up together. i mean, and we'd take the time for every single person she passed that needed her. homeless people, little children. she's just -- she was just -- >> larry: how's the dog doing? >> terrible. crying every day. crying and crying. >> larry: what kind of wife was she? >> not a typical one. if you asked her for a meal, then she would give you something to order from. if you asked her for a shirt, she'd say blue would be nice. i did her hair and makeup for movies. i dressed her. i guess that's where the svengali comes from. it was our