over, shovel! >> reporter: can you say meltdown? not everyone is preparing for the worst. >> are you glad that school is out today? >> yeah! >> reporter: just look at these kids enjoying the winter wonderland and giving us all something to consider. seems sometimes the snow can just be fun. randi kaye, cnn, new york. hey, that's it for "360." thanks for watching. we'll be in port-au-prince tomorrow night. "larry king" starts right now. >> larry: tonight, vice president joe biden sits down with me to talk money and jobs. >> see net creation of jobs. >> larry: and what the future holds for every american during these tough economic times. and plus, senator john kerry and teresa heinz kerry exclusive on

here in their first interview today on the private heartbreak that they are now making public, her battle with cancer. and then -- ♪ we are the ones that make a brighter day ♪ >> larry: they brought us "we are the world" and are making history again for the people of haiti. quincy jones and lionel richie take us behind the scenes of their incredible new version. we've got a preview of what the planet's going to see in just two days, next on "larry king live." >> larry: great pleasure to welcome to "larry king live" joe biden, the vice president of the united states. it will be hard to call you mr. vice president. because we go back a long ways. but i got to do that. that's the rules. okay. let's begin right from the top of the get go. jobs. so many people out of work. people angry. what do you have the president do to turn this around? >> the first thing we do is keep

us from going totally off the cliff. and that's why the recovery act, we went out there and everyone acknowledges that we created so somewhere between 1.6 and 2.4 million jobs. but 7 million people lost their jobs this year. and what we are doing now is focusing, and hopefully with some republican help this time, on job creation. and small business because everyone wants to create job, doing everything from eliminating capital duanes to offering $5,000 tax credit for hiring new employees to moving in the direction of future oriented thing, too, larry. it's not just enough to create the job that right this minute, which is our primary responsibility but to lay the foundation for creating good, decent jobs, and the green economy and dealing with everything from broad band to making sure that we have a new system of energy production in this country. >> larry: it seems overwhelming.

does it wear on you? >> you know, larry, i'm vice president, not president. i get to give a lot of advice. and i get responsibility. but the guy who has to make the decisions is the president. and i'm -- it's remarkable how centered this guy is. i mean, he gets up every morning, puts both feet on the ground, as my dad would say, knows what he has to do, goes out and does it, seems unfazed by it. >> larry: you recently swore in the new senator from massachusetts. republican scott brown. right after he says this. watch. >> the last stimulus bill didn't create one new job. and in some states the money ha was actually released hasn't even been used yet. that's right. we lost what another 85,000 jobs again, give or take, last month? >> larry: okay, you didn't create a job. you just told me you did. >> well, i don't know -- let me just say what the facts are. the facts are that -- >> larry: you're shocked at

that. >> well, i'm not. he's a new guy. he ran on two things. one that we're not handling the economy well. and health care. and so i think that's part of the shtick. i hope he doesn't really believe that. you just go to massachusetts and see the thousands of teachers that still had their jobs and firefighters and police officers, the new jobs created as a consequence of investments in new technologies and the like. so again, i don't know one single serious economic model from the conservative to the liberals who acknowledge anything other than we created a minimum of 1.6 million jobs, and the estimates for the cbo, which is really the gold standard, no republican or democrat questions it, say we created and saved over 2 million jobs. >> larry: how about, mr. vice president, all you spent to save them? >> look -- >> larry: it is $787 billion? >> well, about halfway there. we spent about half that so far. it's a two-year program. it wasn't just creating jobs. a third of that money went to

tax cuts. a third of that amount of money went to tax cuts to businesses and to individuals. everybody who collected a paycheck -- and people already know this. if they collected a paycheck and they had withholding tax taken out of it, they had $60 to $80 less withheld. >>. >> larry: in the last year. >> in the last year. that was billions put into their pockets. they went out and spent that money for everything from a hair cut to help them pay for the electric bill. that has impact on the economy. secondly, what we did was we made sure that we invested in not just tax cuts but in, as they call it, fancy word, countercyclical help. a lot of these states are in deep, deep trouble. we provided significant help for the states in everything from making sure -- for example, all those people getting health care, the people who lost their jobs, lost their health care, got dumped into medicaid. those states wouldn't have been able to provide that health care

for them. so a lot of it's not seeing, and a lot is misunderstood. >> larry: you know, it's a one-year anniversary of the recovery act next week. did it go fast? >> well, it did go fast. i'll tell you what, i spent most of my time making sure that there are no big boondoggles. if you notice for all the criticism of the recovery act, no one has come up and said they wasted $50 million here, $90 million here. that dog never bit. and so i'm very proud of the way we've done it. you can -- i've talked to every single governor now at least once, most of them twice, for a half hour at a shot. auns a week i'm on the phone with five governors and 7 to 12 mayorses or county executives. i have yet to have any one say to me, thank you for being responsive. >> larry: next, more on the economy. then later, the woman who wanted his job. sarah palin has had a lot to say lately. ♪

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>> larry: in this economic back and forth, are you ever going to get bipartisan? >> well, we met yesterday, larry, the president and myself, we went and met with the republican leadership and the democratic leadership in the house and senate. and i think there is a realization that we have to do something about jobs, for example. there's an agreement. they said, by the way, we support no capital gains for

taxes for small businesses. we think the health care system is broken, has to be fixed. so it's the first time any of that has occurred. do i think there's going to be the kind of bipartisan i'm used to in all the years i served in the senate? not likely. but i do think there will be some more movement because there's a dual message being sent out there. it's not just that people -- that massachusetts election wasn't just about democrats. it's about washington isn't working. and i don't think that republican leadership is going to continue to conclude that the way they win is that the country loses. >> larry: you're the majority party. >> we are the majority party. >> larry: you got all the -- the ball's in your court. >> that's true, larry. i was a senator for 36 years. i got there when i was 29 years old. i've been through seven presidents, eight now. and i've never seen a time when the operating norm to get anything past was a supermajority of 60 votes. no matter what -- no matter what

the bill is, it's filibustered. it's required to 60 votes. you can't rule bay supermajority. you can't govern if you require a supermajority. it is getting to the point where it's being abused, this idea of the filibuster or the threat of extended debate. and i think the public is taking it out -- the congress as a whole, republicans and democrats are extremely low in the polls in the congress. and i hope it's sinking in to everyone that american public sent us all here to solve certain problems. and everybody knows. it's a little bit like the middle east. everybody knows the outlines of the final settlement, has to do with a two-state solution, et cetera. everybody knows. we have to change our energy policy, we have to change our education policy. >> larry: are you optimistic about a jobs bill? >> i am optimistic. i think now. the jobs bill i think will probably be less than is needed initially, but it will be very

helpful. i think the house already passed a jobs bill. i think the senate will pass a jobs bill. and i think, larry, look, by the spring people are going to begin to have more confidence in the policies we put in place, but i think you're going to see net creation of jobs every month. you will see it won't be 7 million jobs in the next six months, but i think you're going to move from we lost 20,000 jobs last month, i think you'll see it move to -- i'm making a number up -- 60,000 created, then 12,000, then 100. when you're sitting at your kitchen table in the neighborhoods i grew up in and you don't have a job or the rumor is you're about to lose your job, your company's about to go under or you can't pay the mortgage in your house, let me tell you something, that's a depression for you. and my granpap used to have an expression, from scranton, the guy who is out of work it's an economic slowdown, when your brother-in-law is out of work, it's a recession.

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>> larry: let's rat-a-tat a bunch of things while we have some time here in this segment. did the president waste too much time on health? >> no. no. look, you cannot get control of the deficits unless you deal with entitlements. one of the biggest entitlements is medicare and medicaid. the cost curve is going up like this. you got to bend it. the only way to do that is reform health care. >> larry: you are going to get a health bill? >> we will. >> larry: you know the republicans want to start from the beginning again? >> i don't care what they call it. bend that cost curve should it doesn't go up 40% a decade and makes it impossible to gain control of our fiscal house. two, make sure there's a fighting chance for people who don't have insurance to get it. three, make sure those who have it are not subject to the kind of thing blue cross out in california has announced, a 39%

increase in health care costs. and four, make sure that there is a circumstance where people are not able to be whip sawed by the insurance companies. imagine if you went through what you and i went through in our health problems and we were 40 years old and we lost ournditio? >> larry: we share that. >> we are part of that club. >> larry: all i have to do is say her name, sarah palin. >> i like her. >> larry: wanted your job. you like her? >> i do. i like her. she's an engaging person. i don't agree with what she says. and some of the things she says are not -- well -- >> larry: what were you going to say? >> some of the comments made are so far out there, i just don't know where they come from. but if you met her, she's an engaging person. i understand why people like her. >> larry: do you fear her in a sense politically fear her? >> no, i don't. look, i've not done as much the raw politics i used to do when i

was a senator. this job, i've been given big thunks of assignments, iraq this, et cetera. i'm not up to being able to give you the poll numbers. but my sense is that sarah appeals -- governor palin appeals to a group of people who are genuinely frustrated, feel disenfranchised, are very conservative, not all of them. >> larry: tea party people. >> tea party people, but beyond that, she has appeal beyond that as well. but i don't know that it represents anything approaching a significant portion of the population. >> larry: you mentioned iraq. >> yeah. >> larry: if i had to tick them off, iraq, iran, afghanistan, pakistan. what worries you the most? >> what worries me the most is pakistan. >> larry: pakistan. >> you've heard me say that for the last ten years. i think it's a big country, it has nuclear weapons that are able to be deployed. it has real significant minority

of radicalized population. it is not a completely functional democracy in the sense we think about it. so that's my greatest concern. i am very optimistic about iraq. i think it's going to be one of the great 'cheevmentes of this administration. you will see 90,000 american troops come marching home by the end of this summer. you are going to see a stable government in iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government. i've been there 17 times now. i go about every two months, three months. i know everyone of the major players in all of the segments of that society. it's impressed me. i've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences. >> larry: iran nuclear, worry? >> a concern. a real concern. not an immediate concern in the sense that something could happen tomorrow or in the very

near term. but what i worry most about with regard to iran, if they continue on the path of nuclear weapons and are able to gain even a modicum of the capability, then i worry what that -- you know the middle east, what pressure that puts on saudi arabia, an egypt, on turkey, to acquire nuclear weapons. that's very destabilizing. >> larry: last week on terrorism, the heads of the major u.s. intelligence agencies told dianne feinstein that another attempted terrorist attack on the united states is coming certain in the next few months. what do you make of that? >> well, look, let me put it this way. the idea of there being a massive attack on the united states like 9/11 is unlikely, in my view, but if you see what's happening, particularly with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, they have decided to move in a direction of much more small but more devastatingly

frightening attacks. >> larry: detroit. >> detroit. but i think what you're seeing morphing here, and it's a concern to us, is you'll see the concern relates to somebody like a shoe bomber or the underpants bomber, the christmas attack, or someone just strapping a backpack on them with explosives that are indigenous and blowing up, you know -- >> larry: so that's going to happen? >> i think there are going to be attempts. i hope we've been -- i've been really impressed -- as i said, i've been through eight presidents. i used to be on the intelligence committee, foreign relations committee. something i've spent my professional life doing. we've had success building on the last administration in dealing with these. >> larry: we're running out of time. condolences on your mom. >> thanks, buddy. i was lucky. you were her favorite. literally, there was not a single night you could walk in her living room and not have you on television. >> larry: great seeing you. let's do it more often. >> i'd love to do it. >> larry: a primetime sluicive

coming for you. senator john kerry and his wife teresa heinz.

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personal challenges. how did you learn? >> routine mammogram. >> larry: who told you? >> my doctor. >> larry: how did he tell you? >> she. >> larry: she. >> she looked at it with an ultrasound after the mammogram, and i know her well. she's been my doctor a long time. and she said, hmm, and she made me look at the ultrasound. i said, what is it? is it another cyst? she said no, i don't think. so she's very matter of fact about it. she said, let's do a little needle biopsy. she did a needle biopsy. cut out the liquid, sent it out to pathology. and they said, there's some unhealthy cells. so tell me why you think it's not just a cyst. she said, you know what a cyst looks like. i said, hum hum. look at this one. there's a tiny little speck of white, necrotic tisch shu. >> larry: did she use the word cancer? >> when it came back i knew it

was going to be cancer. >> larry: you knew. >> she said, i think this is cancer. i said, okay. so we're going to do a bigger biopsy. the real biopsy. so we did the big biopsy. and she cleaned out and cleaned out and cleaned out and cleaned out, and she put it in a little jar. all right, doctor, can i look at my little bottle, at my little cancer? she said sure. i look at my little cancer. it was very interesting. kind of made it this is a little part of my body and it's not behaving very well, but it's mine. i looked at it and i wasn't frightened. i was analytical. >> larry: how did you find out? >> about her. or about me. >> larry: well, your prostate. >> well, teresa told me. she called me and, you know, actually, i was there for one part of it, not the initial part of it, but she just told me. she said this is what's happened. i have this. >> larry: first reaction. >> well, your first reaction is

always one of fear and concern and, you know, is it in the nodes? has it metastasized? what's going on here? and you kind of want to get as rapid a handle on what the possibilities are as you are. teresa was very calm and matter of fact about it. her friends call her dr. t. >> larry: because she knows all about this? >> he shos more about medicine than a lot of the doctors. >> larry: for the layman, how are they treating it? >> you have choices, as you know. and i hoped that i would be in a situation where i wouldn't have to could chemotherapy if possible. because i have a hard time processing drugs, all kinds of drugs. i was lucky. i had no chemo. >> larry: how did they treat it? >> radiation in both breasts. then they will probably give me -- >> and lumpectomies.

>> twice lumpectomies. >> larry: weren't you scared? >> of the radiation? >> larry: of the whole thing. >> i wasn't scared because i'm very analytical about things like this and i guess a little fatalistic. i knew that it was small, i knew it was stage one, i knew that i take good care of myself generally. my fear was having to do chemo because of my own personal situation. >> larry: you had surgery for your prostate, right? >> correct. >> larry: that was serious. to go that route. >> well, you have choices, again, and you got to make them. >> larry: i know. >> now you have a robot ic for surgery. you have the open surgery, you have seeds, you have wait and watch. >> larry: you took the big deal, though. >> i did. larry. i did it for a number of reasons.

one, my father died of prostate cancer. and he started out with the sort of radiation, wait and watch, then it got up to him and got ahead of him. and i didn't -- you know, i just had a sense i wanted it out of me. secondly, i was just starting a presidential campaign. and i also felt that, you know, if i was going to hold myself out to the american people as ready to be president, i had to be cancer-tree. [ female announcer ] enjoy a complete seafood dinner for two

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>> larry: we're back with senator john kerry and teresa heinz kerry. mammograms are important. are you urging people, women, to get them? >> yes. i think that preventive medicine of all kinds pays in the long run both in terms of the health of the woman and the prospects for longevity as well as costs. >> larry: what age should you get it? >> well, that's debatable. for sure 40-year-olds. most good doctors -- there's a difference of opinion whether you should do it annually or not? >> larry: what do you think? >> if i hadn't done my annually, it would have been further

along. it might have been caught at stage two. >> larry: do they know what cause it? >> i have a high estrogen, positive breast tissue, which is about twice as much estrogen as in the rest of my body. >> larry: are you scared for her? >> until we knew that it was -- i tell you, her doctor was terrific, and her doctor was so reassuring about how early and really controllable, and that certainly gave me a sense of comfort. i don't know how much it gave teresa initially. but her diagnosidiagnosis, her instilled a lot of confidence. so the answer is, you know, once we knew it wasn't in the nodes, and that it was at a controllable stage, i think i was more confident. i hope teresa was, too, i think she's been very confident about it. >> larry: do you talk to other women about it? >> i didn't talk to almost anyone for the first two months except maybe three friends because i just couldn't deal

with answering questions or talking about it. i just had to process what i was doing. and being quiet was the way to do it. >> larry: now? >> and now -- i did make this op-ed, i wrote this op-ed for the pittsburgh papers when the mammogram issue came up. and i was quite angry when i read that. i thought this is not right. >> larry: the issue not to get them. >> yeah. 40-year-olds. that was my, quote, coming out. it stunned a lot of people. >> larry: sure did. >> but i didn't want to do it until i was ready to do it. >> larry: have you spoken to elizabeth edwards? >> no. >> larry: do you plan to? >> i've spoken to her. i've talked to her a number of times. in fact, i talked to her very recently. and she said best wishes to teresa and mentioned that she actually wanted to be in touch with her. and we talked, just about general things.

>> larry: what do you make of this whole thing with john? >> well, larry, what can you make? honestly, it's a tragedy. >> larry: are you shocked? >> yes. and obviously disappointed. but i think -- i think everybody just feels awful about it in terms of their family, the relationship that everybody saw publicly, the promise, the hope, you know. obviously a capable career. >> larry: have you spoken to him? >> i have not. i called their home. i didn't know who would answer. i was certainly ready and willing and hope to say a word but -- >> larry: you got very friendly with her when you ran together, did you not? >> somewhat. we were in different ships. i was in one part of the country, she was in another part of the country. >> larry: what do you make of the bad press she's getting? >> i got to tell you truthfully, teresa and i have reached a stage where we don't read it, we don't watch it, we don't pay attention to it. whether it's about us or someone else. >> larry: why not? >> because we're focused on trying to get some serious

things done. and we just don't have time for it. >> and it hurts, to see that happen. >> i think a lot of people in -- there's too much of it in our politics. our politics has become too celebrity oriented, too trivial, too superficial. it's interesting, i know this isn't the topic for the night, but i just came back from a security conference in germany last weekend, and it was fascinating to listen to people from so many different parts of the world talking about the ways in which the world is changing and we're missing a lot of it. china is moving forward in its economy, india, germany, europe, different places. we're stuck. we are very stuck right now. and i have huge empathy for the president's struggle to try to get over this partisanship and find a way for us to make real decisions that are just critical to our nation. and if we don't, we're sliding backwards at a time when every

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>> larry: we're talking with teresa heinz kerry about her breast cancer and her fight against it. i guess you're going to wheat it. >> that's what they say. but you never know till it's done. >> larry: and senator john kerry and other thins like what do you

make of brown's election, ted kennedy. >> understandable. really very understandable. >> larry: really? >> yeah, i think it is. if you're up in massachusetts as i was and you can feel the anger and the frustration that people have with washington, with what's not happening here, the kind of thing i just talked about. scott brown tapped into that. he presented a refreshing alternative in that regard. all of us need to respect that part of it. now, i wouldn't overinterpret what happened there. it was still a close race. and certain things that happened, you know, campaign wise, maybe it would have been a different outcome. what's important is that all of us in washington, republican, democrat alike, are throw away the party labels and try to find some real solutions to big problems, larry. i mean, we're not doing health care because -- >> larry: how about jobs? >> biggest issue on the table. we have to create jobs. we need -- i happen to believe

that the energy climate initiatives that we have staring us in the face have very little to do with climate and everything to do with the creation of jobs, with america's energy independence, with strengthening our national security, improving our health and putting america into the next generation of competitive capacity. >> larry: do you expect senator brown to be bipartisan? >> i do. i hope so. i think he will be. and i thing others are prepared to be. i think we need to just, you know, press that -- the leadership in both sides needs to continue to press our ability to find a meeting point. and we'll all pay a heavy price if we don't. >> larry: you like him? senator brown? >> i do. no, absolutely. and i know his wife from, you know, her role as a reporter in massachusetts. we have sat together now a couple of times. we're going to work for massachusetts. we're going to work for the country. we're going to find the common ground.

and i think that's what's he's interested in doing. >> larry: are you disappointed in the election? >> i was in massachusetts when that thing was going on from the beginning of january till whenever, the 19th, the 18th? >> yeah, the 19th. >> i had the occasion to see the debates, to see the campaigning and to see all of that. and i wasn't surprised. plus he's an appealing figure. >> larry: he is. >> we had a very bright, capable attorney general who was -- doesn't have that kind of appeal that he did. and very different style of campaigning. and i think that people liked that, for the reasons john said, the anger, the impatience, the this, the that, and i think that was important. >> larry: talking about division, what do you make of the tea party? that's from your neck of the woods, the boston people. that's where it first happened. >> without water. >> larry: without water and dumping tea. >> entirely understandable.

>> larry: really? >> absolutely. are you kidding? i mean, we have enormous deficits, huge trade deficit, people feel frustrated. >> larry: the anger. >> absolutely, larry. i completely understand that, you bet. and none of us should presume that you can just sort of oppose things and have a strategy of obstruction and not suffer consequences. i think the american people sent us here to do a serious job and we need to get it done. there are real answers to these things. this is not as complicated as some people want to make it. there are ways of reducing health care costs. maybe we can't go quite as far, as fast to reach as many people who don't have the insurance, but we could have insurance reforms. we could stop having people lose their insurance the minute they get sick. we could stop having people lose their -- not get insurance because of a pre-existing condition. we can do a more effective job of paying and reimbursing and

reduced cost, we can do these things. the question is is there a will to do it? that's the test. frankly, there's a silver lining in what happened in the loss of 60 votes. and it is that the republicans now are responsible for governing again because, if you're going to get 60, it requires some republican to step up and say yes. and that's the test now. are they willing to help us deal with the many crises we face. >> larry: when i come back i'll ask her about the costs of cancer.

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>> larry: right now they're not covered. >> not all women, no. no, no. now, there are free clinics and even buses in places where you can go in and get it done. i mean, i liked the bernie saunders community health care, he wanted $10 million -- >> to build health centers. >> i visited a lot of those in iowa and washington, all over, and louisiana has amazing community health centers. they're very intimate, good personal place where local people can go for very -- >> larry: still a long way to go, though? >> and they pay for your drugs for almost completely because it's subsidized by the government. >> larry: one more -- one more political thing. are you concerned about sarah palin? >> concerned? >> larry: yeah. >> no, no. why would i be concerned. >> larry: what could you make of her? >> look, she's interesting. she represents the

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>> larry: welcome back. quincy jones and lionel richie are two of the biggest names in the music business, and they created "we are the world" in 1985 and are working on a second version that will benefit the people of haiti. it debuts this friday during the opening of the olympics. here are some of the just more than 70, yes, more than 70 superstars taking part. celine dion, barbra streisand, miley cyrus, nick jonas, josh

groban, the black eyed peas, pink, snoop dogg, jennifer hudson, usher, jeff bridges, jamie foxx, harry connick jr. and tony bennett. i'm so excited. quincy, how did you put this all together? >> art link letter lives next door to me. and he says to me, every day, quincy, if you want to make god laugh, tell him your plans. and you just have to let go. aim carefully, the diversity of whatever, you know and aim carefully and let go. you have to give god that room. i would say a sign that says leave some space for god to walk through a room and it will really happen. >> divine guidance this trip, larry. it was absolutely divine guidance. i tell you what was happening the most was to see the enthusiasm on so many of the people's faces there were because of course, 25 years ago they weren't old enough, some weren't even here to be around to be in this. the enthusiasm of having the next generation of wanting with to be part of this was just mind blowing. >> larry: lionel, none of the

people in this one were in the last one, right? >> exactly right. what we wanted to do was pass the baton on to the next generation and empower them, to give them an opportunity to understand their social awareness and to give them a chance to be a part of history. i mean this is wonderful for them. of course, i was inspired to see, again, my daughter, 5 years old, came to me and she said, dad, we learned a brand new song in school, "we are the world" i understand you wrote it with michael jackson. i fell out laughing. at that point, i realized there is going to come a time we have to pass this wonderful legacy on to the next generation. >> it happens automatically. >> larry: quincy, how did you get all those egos to be nice to each other and work together and sublimate the ego? >> well, the artists were pretty cool. we had some problems. i was ready to bring my sign back out, check your ego at the door.

>> you know what it was though, once they all got in the room and realized that it's really not about us, as we said in first one, it is not about us, it's about the people. once you see those kids standing out there in the middle of nothing, the families completely lost with everything. at this point your ego shrinks to a point you understand what your mission is. >> larry: some of the students from haiti shot the video of "we are the world." let's take a look. ♪ we are the world, we are the children ♪ ♪ we are the ones who make a brighter day ♪ ♪ so let's start giving ♪ there's a choice we're making, we're saving our own lives ♪ ♪ it's true, we make a better day, just you and me ♪ >> larry: convince -- quincy,

who died who would do solos? >> it was a mixture of emergency and circumstances. some people didn't show up and some other people showed up and so you have -- that's where it is good to have been a jazz musician. jazz musician's mind was wide open. and you can roll and turn on a dime. >> exactly right. >> it was very important. >> larry: how long does it take to edit this thing to get it all ready for friday night? lion lionel? >> longer than this it does to record it, about three times to record it. >> this particular time around was interesting because think about it, we started out with four cameras on the first "we are the world." this time around, everybody had a cell phone. everybody had a cell phone, everybody was myspace, yourspace, herspace, theirspace. it was streaming before we got to the second verse. so it was actually quite magical to see how much technology was in that room while we were trying to record this thing. by a way, a secret this record was not going to be. >> larry: did you imbibe michael jackson in any way, quincy?

>> yes. >> yes. >> at his mother's request and our desire. >> our desire, yes. >> we kept michael's -- when we did the last one, we asked him to be there right after the amas, 10:00, to be on the mike to sing as a lead as a demo for the rest of the people. he was there right on time and he did it. he doubled it. now we have got janet singing with him. >> but to have his voice in there, i must tell you, to have his presence, i was -- i must admit, he was missed last night just in body. but i must tell you, to have his voice in there was just inspiring. >> larry: what about having rappers instead of rockers? >> we got all of them. >> the funny thing -- >> we had everything this time but also, we're going to put it on the back of the record, there's a fantastic poem that was requested by michael's mother written by maya angelou. it is incredible. it ends with "we are, you are, we are the world."

>> right. >> so organically connected. as i said again, lionel says, there is a lot of divine intervention there. >> yeah. >> larry: lionel there were 88 people involved in this. i understand there were half of that some years ago. is that more of a problem, having more people? >> i don't know whether we had too many artists in the building or too many film crew. i'm telling you, technology we have now, this on -- what is it, 3-d, panavision. we had every imaginable, every imaginable kind of camera filming this. and so the visual on this is far greater than it was the first time around. but it is just incredible. we will make cuts where the kids in haiti will be singing along with us on the video. it's brilliant. >> larry: the benefits all go to help haiti, right, quincy? >> absolutely.

all the organizations. i will call no names, who deal with those 30% and 40% operation overhead. we have a very good friend who used to be a ambassador to colombia. luis moreno. he's the head of energy development at world bank now, 31 countries in latin america. and we'll take the advice of absolute experts where to aim. because lots of things like power generators, people have submitted power generators and just some amazing giving. >> larry: salute you both. quincy joan, lionel richie "we are the world." it will open the olympics friday night. all the prose when it goes on sale will go to help haiti. we mentioned celine dion is one of the singers. she'll be a guest right here monday night. before we go, "american idol"