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cnn special investigation called "broken government." giving the squeeze to lobbyists running our elected officials. we're going to have an in-depth look at what is fueling voter anger and find out what went so wrong in washington and what you can do to fix it. that's coming up all next week on cnn. have a great weekend. "larry king live" starts right now. tonight tiger woods expresses to the world. >> i cheated. i had affairs. i thought i could get away with whatever i wanted to. >> larry: says he's getting treatment. >> what i did was not acceptable. >> larry: and that he has to change. >> my failures have made me look at myself in a way i never
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wanted to before. >> larry: witnesses who were in the room are here with first-hand accounts. then golfing great nick faldo, former nba great hal sally and they answer this question, was tiger really sincere? next on "larry king live." good evening. tiger woods' first public statement since the car accident that led to shocking revelations of infidelity lasted a tightly scripted 13.5 minutes. here are some of the key moments. >> i'm deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior i engaged in. i know i have bitterly disappointed all of you. i have made you question who i am and how i could have done the things i did.
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for all that i have done, i am so sorry. i was unfaithful. i had affairs. i cheated. what i did is not acceptable. and i am the only person to blame. i brought this shame on myself. i hurt my wife, my kids, my mother, my wife's family, my friends, my foundation and kids all around the world who admired me. >> joining us now, sir nick faldo, the lead golf analyst for cbs sports, the winner of six majors, including three masters. and bram lee chan lee, former pga tour analyst. nick, what did you make of that
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today? >> as you can imagine, larry, i can't imagine tiger ever imagined in his life he would be literally standing up in front of the world and having to apologize for his indiscretions. it was a pretty profound apology. i thought that part was very good, but i'm sure, as we're going to discuss in the show, there are plenty of sides to it. the bottom line is for us, we golfers, we're still in the dark, very much like i am, as to when he's going to return to playing golf again. >> larry: ran dhaliwdall, how d impress you? >> i thought it was a big step towards rebuilding his image. i thought it was sincere, i thought he did show a different side: humility. we have not seen humility from tiger woods in the last 15 years, so the overriding sentiment, i thought, was that it was -- on all fronts achieved what i think he set out to achieve.
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>> larry: nick, if anything, what surprised you this morning? >> the most obvious thing is -- the one thing i thought was very interesting was he is obviously trying to rebuild things with elin, and she had said words -- action or behavior is more powerful than words. and he said we have a lot of talking to do. but for me, he could kill two birds with one stone here and get back out on the golf course. it's extremely important for him to be out on the golf course. that's what he is, he's a golfer chasing records. he wants to do that. he wants to leave this legacy. and i feel as soon as he gets out there, it's important, because that's the only area he is not sure of. it's a totally unknown environment. he knows the way the media have treated him, he knows the way the business world has reacted to him, so his unknown is to get
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himself back on the golf course. i can understand tiger is a person who only wants to get on the golf course when he's 100% comfortable and he's there ready to win. look at his incredible record. until he gets that right, he obviously feels he still has a major problem to get to that step, but if he really wants to rebuild the family, like i believe he does, he could have a house at every tournament, have tutors, have nannies, he goes off to play golf and rebuilds his family. if you want to rebuild your family, that would be a great start, i think. >> b >> larry: but he has to finish rehab, doesn't he? >> absolutely, and i would respectfully disagree with nick. if i understand the rehabilitation process completely, it's that first you have to go through all these steps.
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he still has rehab to continue with, maybe another week or two weeks, then he has to make amends at home. the damage that he has caused with his family is immense, and i doubt that the make-believe life and the fantasy life of the tour would be an ideal situation in which for him to achieve that. i was surprised at his honest revelations, at his accurate assessment of the things that led to this behavior. by him saying that he did not think that normal rules applied to him, that he thought he was entitled and that his money and fame gave him easy access to temptation and that he strayed from his beliefs in buddhism. these are insights into his private life that he's never been willing to give to anyone in the media, and they have tried. they have tried for 13 years to get anything out of him other than what club he hit and how he won a golf tournament. today he did that and in a
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humble manner. >> nick, what are the other golfers saying? >> it's very difficult, we have 150 guys most weeks on tour, and you can imagine they go from one end of the spectrum and others couldn't care less. he's been a very important part of the tour. what he's generated through television, the interest, what he's brought to the tour for the players to gain financially has been immense. so, you know, that's an extremely wide spectrum. listening to what brandon is saying, if he wants to look after his family, he should quit and look after his family, but he chases golf records and he has a business empire, and i can't imagine there are too many sponsors that want to shell out 20 million to have tiger woods right now. >> larry: we're going to take a break. we'll be joined by howard bragman and dr. drew pinski, who
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you all know is an expert on the psychological side of things. don't go away.
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>> larry: welcome back. nick faldo remains, and howard bragman joins us, expert on strategic and crisis communications, and dr. drew
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pinski, the host of vh1 celebrity rehab with dr. drew, and the author of "mirror effect, how celebrity narcy sichl is seducing america. >> i stopped living by the core morlz th beliefs that i believed in. it's up to me to make amends and that starts with never repeating the mistakes i've made. it's up to me to start living a life of integrity. parents used to point to me as a role model for their kids. i owe all those families a special apology. i want to say to them that i am truly sorry. there are many people in this room, and there are many people at home who believed in me. today i want to ask for your
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help. i ask you to find room in your heart to one day believe in me again. >> larry: howard bragman, how did this strategy work? >> i think the words were right, larry. he could have used a good editor. i think there was 13 minutes, it could have gone to about half that. one of the biggest problems is not so much what he did. the mainstream media is not happy with tiger because he chose to go around them. in the beginning he wrote on his blog as opposed to talking with them and doing an interview with a credible journalist. this didn't help him. >> but in the poll, 67% said he was sincere. >> and that's fine, but what he wanted to do was make this go away, and the mainstream media isn't letting this go away
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because it's getting viewers on tv, it's getting viewers on web sites, it's selling newspapers, and i think a credible interview with a credible journalist would have done a lot more good. >> dr. drew, how did he do? >> he did okay. the fact is, he had this highly rehearsed kind of presentation, and there was some dramatic pauses and there was real affect in those pauses, but i walked away with a bad feeling, i have to tell you. not that there weren't some good things. he said he's going to dedicate himself to his treatment and put golf aside and he now has a supportive peer group. i had a couple bad feelings. one is he kept repeating over and over again his apology. he kept emphasizing how he was a bad person, an irresponsible person, outside his core values, but he never said, i'm a sick person with a problem, and this is where it took me. he said, i'm a bad person. they were having him look at his
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character defects but now here's the treatment that can help you with that. he's probably doing that, but i don't think this really helped him. >> nick, before you leave us, do you think he'll play again this year? >> that's a big question. obviously, we hope he does. the masters would make sense, but after the way he was talking, maybe that sounds a little soon now. because when tiger was out there, he had this great aura around him. he had mag any ticmagnetism. he had this presence. to do that, you have to have great self-esteem. when you have the rest of the world looking at you and critiquing everything, you have to feel pretty good, and obviously this has made a major dent. he has to stand good sta-- feel standing at that first tee and just feel comfortable with himself. >> brandon, do you think he'll be back soon? >> i think we'll see him back this year. i doubt we'll see him at the masters. i think the earliest would be the u.s. open at pebble beach.
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i think he has to be sure that his family life is shored up and that he can commit the time, the energy and mental challenge of getting back to golf. and that is all-t, and y-- all-encompassing, and you can't do that with this over his head, even with a man of his talent. >> larry: thank you all. what was it like for someone who was in the room today, next. woman down from nasal allergy attack.
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we're talking about tiger woods' statement today. he was in the room when tiger spoke. what was the atmosphere like, doug? >> strange when we got in, larry. it was like showing up to church early. all of his close associates and friends and whatnot had already been seated and sat there and frankly didn't move for the next 25, 30 minutes. a presidential feel to it with the blue drapes, and there was no big announcement. tiger just walked in the room and began. and, frankly, the only drama was when the center camera went out about nine minutes into his statement. >> larry: the golf writers association was hoping for an opportunity to be part of the media pool.
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they declined. did you have any kind of queasy feelings of going somewhere where you weren't allowed to ask anything? >> not really, larry. i appreciate what they did. the ap covers the news. i appreciate what they've done, but that's what the news was and we were there to cover it. in terms of questions, it was not a press conference. we were sitting all the way to the back of the room and probably 40, 50 feet away from tiger, and when he finished and a hush in the room and hugs with his mother and some of his close employees, and he was out the door. >> larry: was there anything you thought to himself, boy, i'd like to ask him this. >> well, i think there is a long list of them, and i think we'll get that time eventually. you know, who exactly is he, and even he alluded to that in his speech about a lot of people don't really know who he is by
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his actions. and secondly, you know, why should anyone believe him given the last three months or two years of deception? i think we'll get our chance when he does return to golf, which i think will be sooner rather than later. there won't be as much a controlled setting. i think today was a chance for him to speak to his associates and kind of a viewing area for the media. there was 40 people in the room, and i'm guessing about 34 of them or so had not seen tiger since the accident. it almost seemed like i'm going to talk to these guys first, and eventually when i get back to golf, he will face the media. that time is coming and there will be no questions he can dodge. >> larry: thanks, doug ferguson. in today's statement, tiger repeatedly said the blame for what's happened is his and his alone, but he also took a couple swi swipes at the press. watch. >> i understand the press wants to ask me for the details of the
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times i was unfaithful. i understand people want to know whether elin and i will remain together. please know that as far as i'm concern concerned, every one of these questions and answers is a matter between elin and me. these are issues between a husband and a wife. >> larry: rodney kupelian is the writer of the golf association of america. they voted overwhelmingly not to participate in the pool of reporters inside the room where tiger made his statement. are you glad you didn't go? >> i think, looking back in our vote, it was exactly the right thing to do. not having experienced what we did today, we got every shred of information. people were under the impression
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that our people were there -- >> we've got some sort of bad connection, and i want to apologize. we'll go back to him maybe on monday night, but obviously we had a bad connection and bad lighting features there. quickly back to howard. you would advise him to do what, this show? >> absolutely. what else would he want to do? there is a catharsis that will come. just because he puts himself in this seat doesn't mean he has to talk about things he doesn't want to talk about. but the journalists will start to leave him alone a little bit. >> larry: did he have to do this, doctor? does he have to come forward at all? >> no, he doesn't have to do anything. i think one of the reasons he's in this position is because he didn't step forward a little sooner and push things back, but we certainly wouldn't be recommending that he make apologies to specific people, we wouldn't be recommending that he
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even necessarily get up and say, i'm a sex addict, but for him to get up and say, please, i've gone to places i never thought i'd go, i'm getting help now, but i didn't see those. i'm sort of struggling against the process, i saw the man appear sort of depressed, and say in those situations, those who are already depressed become severely depressed, so i'm sort of concerned about him. >> let's go back to bart. sorry about the problems in reaching you. oh, he's gone. mother said there would be days like this. we're going to talk about the wife who knows all about the temptations celebrities face, and what she says may shock you. next. hey can you tell my wife to relax and enjoy the view? (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
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>> larry: we now welcome jackie christie, the wife of the former nba player, doug christie. the christies are known for their commitment to marriage and month nothing monogamy. and a columnist for the philadelphia inquirer. from the perspective of an athlete's wife, what did you make of this statement? >> i took it as i thought it wasn't enough. i felt like it was contrived and he wrote it and was saying all the right things. i would have wanted more emotion. i just felt like it was really shallow. >> larry: did you expect him to tell his wife he loved her? >> i expected him to tell her he loved her, i expected him to get on bended knee. if you want the world to know how you feel about your wife, you need to prove it and that's not reading a statement.
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>> larry: you would have been long gone? >> a long time ago, but i still would have wanted the apology. >> steve, what did you make of it today? >> i think jackie is being far too kind. he came across as phoney and entirely weak. >> larry: steve, try to have a point of view. >> it's ridiculous, larry, when you consider the fact he's been lying since he came up with that story about his wife was a hero after she tried to rescue him from the black he is clescalade been lying since day one. today he said he realized he's not above the rules, but he circumvented the rules. you've got to stand in the public eye and take questions from journalists. this boy tried to hand-pick a few journalists that he wanted in attendness, he wanted to be
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surrounded by family friends and loved ones and didn't want to answer any questions. who did he think he is? it's that simple. >> larry: should he have answered questions, howard? >> absolutely. he's a smart guy. give me a day with him, there is nothing he couldn't have handled. any good media trainer could get this guy through it. >> larry: doctor? >> we really don't know what's going on with him from a mental standpoint. he looked really unsettled and depressed, and it could have made things worse from the standpoint of his mental health. it's possible. we just don't know what's going on. >> larry: do you think he should have stood on his own? >> i think elin should have been there. he talked about them rebuilding their life, but where is she? >> you can't have her there. she's already gone through enough humiliation. this man did not have an affair, he had multiple affairs.
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they're speculating allegedly. it wasn't just with other women, it was with prostitutes, for crying out loud. he didn't meet them in a hotel room, they were in her house while she was pregnant, a allegedly. all this stuff is coming out and you talk about she's supposed to sit and hold her hand -- >> you misunderstand me. i think she should have been there so that when he apologized, he apologized to her first and foremost. i stated before, i would have left a long time ago, but if elin does elect to stay with tiger, i suggest he apologize to her publicly because he humiliated her publicly, you're going to apologize to me first and foremost. i'm still not going to be with you, but apologize. >> but she doesn't want to be seen by anybody. >> jackie, thanks for coming. try to be a little more forceful next time. >> sorry.
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>> larry: steven smith will remain and bragman and penski will also be here. don't go away.
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>> larry: we're back with jim gray, correspondent for the golf channel and former nba star
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champion saying he is a tv personality. he's understating it by a long shot. all right, james gray, who breaks news every night. what did you make of it today? >> well, i've known tiger woods since he was eight years old and i saw a very different tiger woods today. i saw a guy -- five things i saw i don't think i've ever seen in him before. he was shaken and uncomfortable. he didn't display any of the confidence he always has. he didn't smile one time. we're used to seeing those teeth in his commercials, the determination in his eyes, that stare. he didn't have any of those, but i saw one thing i hadn't seen, either, and that was a touch of humility. i saw a touch of that today, larry. >> larry: don sally, what did you get? >> one, i'm glad he took responsibility for what he did.
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it's a refrigerator magnet theory, and you got to take responsibility. people don't do that. i love jimmy, but saying he wasn't humble and all that stuff, and doug christie's wife saying she would have left a long time ago. they say that, and they also say they love them. when they get married, i love you through thick and thin, through rich and poor, with my conscious and subconscious, and then they talk about a bbandoni them. >> larry: what's your point? >> my point is, he got up there and said, i'm human, i'm in love with my wife. he did what he could do. he stopped the world for 20 minutes. the last time that happened was in a movie. he stopped the world for 20 minutes. i woke up this morning just to see tiger woods. he did what he needed to for the public and the media. >> larry: steven, i imagine you disagree? >> oh, absolutely, i always
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disagree, john knows that. did anybody grasp the idea, just the idea, that maybe, just maybe, he was unkmfrcomfortable because he had to speak somewhat truthfully about something for the first time in his life? this is not a guy used to revealing himself to folk. this was a guy that was uncomfortab uncomfortable, had to read a statement. it's your life, why do you have to read a statement? >> this is why you read a statement. you get up in front of the world -- it's the same statement on his web site. you want to make sure the words you felt come out, and nobody can sit around and say he left something out, he should have said this. he was speaking from the heart. i believe he wrote the things he said. >> you believe -- you can't tell. >> i can tell. i know the guy, too. i'm telling you -- >> you know him? you're sure? you're sure about that? >> well, do you know anybody, steve? >> larry: hold it a second. jim gray knows him the longest.
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we're going to have bragman and penski analyze sally and smith. jim, you've known him a long time. who is right here? >> well, i don't think either of them are right. i think it's somewhere in between. i mean let's just say this. from the news aspect today, i was happy to hear tiger woods say that he has not used performance-enhancing drugs. i was happy to hear tiger woods say today that there has never been any domestic violence in his marriage. i thought those two proclamations were things everybody wanted to have answered and he gave those answers. i was also hoping while hearing this that this wasn't a john edwards moment, that this wasn't perhaps a bill clinton. i hope this is truthful. i hope we don't come to find out something else along the line. i was very happy to hear those two things today, and i think that's the right step in the right direction, and he's going
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to have to face these questions at some point because the reporters are not going to go away. i want to say one thing to howard bragman. it's not about coaching somebody to do something and having it come out the way it should. just tell the truth. america buried richard nixon a hero. there was a 21-gun salute. the man tore and devastated this country. he lost all belief in our government and there was a 21-gun salute. he died a hero. we can certainly stand tiger woods having affairs. >> if you showed all these different people, they would be inhuman. it came out early because the media is upset, and he made a point. this is between he and his wife, and the media should only talk about his golf. >> larry: steven? >> i want to make it clear it's between him and his wife, it's nobody else's business. but tiger made it everyone's
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business because he tried to manipulate the masses to try to make them believe what he wanted them to at the very beginning. he came up with the story about the wife busting out the windows. he came up with all that stuff, making everybody think he was going down a highway at 100 miles per hour when he crashed going down his driveway into a tree. the point is, this guy is making up stories because he's making a concerted effort to manipulate people into believing what he wants them to believe as opposed to answering questions. come on, john. >> larry: steven, we're going to have you back very soon, but please promise the next time, be forthcoming. >> i promise. >> larry: have some opinions. greg will come back, sally will come back. what tiger didn't say. what it could mean, next. boss:hey, glad i caught you. i was on my way to present ideas
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>> larry: robin woods is here, psychotherapist. robin met with his wife during the 13-minute statement. watch this first.
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>> elin and i have started the process of discussing the damage caused by my behavior. as elin pointed out to me, my real apology to her will not come in the form of words. it will come from my behavior over time. some people have speculated that elin somehow hurt or attacked me on thanksgiving night. it angers me that people would fabricate a story like that. elin never hit me that night or any other night. there has never been an episode of domestic violence in our marriage, ever. elin has shown enormous grace and poise throughout this ordeal. >> larry: dr. salts, what's your read on all this? >> i think he's trying to be generous to his wife, appropriately so. i think you could hear that he's been in therapy as he talks about the fact that, yes, it's
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not about saying you're sorry, it's about showing over the long haul, over a long period of time that he's going to do the hard work that it would take to build back some sort of a relationship. now, whether or not he can do that i think remains to be seen, but i think that is something he probably learned in his therapy, and so something he's trying to relay. >> robbie, what do you think? >> i agree with gail. it sounds like he's had some time to start the reflection process, the self-reflection process, and he's gaining more insight into perhaps why he did some of the things that he did, but it is a long road, and my gut feeling is that he really has no idea yet as to why he was behaving the way he did. and he needs to make those connections, and yes, certainly marriages can get through infidelity. the question is, is he willing to be in his marriage in a very different way than he has been in the past? and we don't know that.
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>> gail, should he have said today that he loved his wife? >> i think that the things that he's going to say about his wife, i actually think that it was appropriate that he said that's going to be between he and her. i know that people are voyeuristically dying to hear that, but once he opens that up, he should probably keep that inside because that's not what the public is upset about. the public is upset about the i h hipocracy, and i think that should be separate with what's going on in his marriage. >> larry: robby, can he get it back? >> yes, and you and i were talking about kobe bryant i don't know how many years ago when he was having his difficulty in the news. we are somewhat for giving, yet
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we like to see people who are put up on a pedestal and they fall, we like to see them rise again. do they rise in the same way? no. because we understand that they're flawed people. but certainly people have made it back. >> larry: thank you, girls. ladies; i'm sorry. forgive me. the pga tour's tough man joins us next with what this means for the world of pro golf. depression is a serious medical condition
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tonight on 360, home from haiti. jim allen, one of the missionaries under arrest for three weeks, tells his side, what they were hoping to accomplish and how everything went so wrong so quickly. also, does your reaction to the tiger woods news conference depend on your sex? we'll have two very different takes plus look at the stage-crafted choreography about what was said and what wasn't, who was or wasn't in the audience. for now, back to larry. >> larry: we're back. we're talking about tiger woods' public remarks today. pga tour commissioner tim finchman joins us from florida. he applauds tiger's statement, calling it good news for the tour. how so, tim? >> well, i think it was a positive first step. i think what fans want to see is not just that tiger comes back
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and plays golf, but that when he does so, he brings the right comportment with him and he has his personal life in order, and certainly i felt the statement today committed him to a course to do just that, and i thought it was very encouraging. >> larry: from a personal perspective, what was it like to be there? >> well, it was kind of a strange atmosphere, really. i mean, it was very quiet, it was serious. i thought he was direct, forceful, he spoke to the people that he wanted to reach in terms of the people who have been impacted by his situation, and these were people that have interfaced with his foundation, with his tournaments, with his business aspects, and with him personally and some family members. so it was a unique thing, but, again, a serious situation. >> larry: he greeted you after. did you exchange any words?
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>> no, we shook hands. i had spoken to him yesterday briefly, and i'll be talking to him when he finishes his therapy. he's gone back into his therapy. he's gone back into therapy, but, you know, my take on this was positive and the thing that i -- that struck me most was that he seemed very committed to the course that he's laid out. he laid out a course and he set the standards that he wants to be measured by now, and, you know, he has a history of when he sets his mind to something to get there and we've watched him over the last 14 years. he sat those standards today and i wouldn't bet against him. >> larry: we have another clip from tiger's statement. this is about his future in golf. let's watch. >> i do plan to return to golf one day. i just don't know when that day will be. i don't rule out that it will be
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this year. when i do return i need to make my behavior more respectful of the game. >> larry: from a tourist standpoint, tim, it's very important to have him back. purely for ratings and interest, isn't it? >> well, yeah. we perform reasonably well, you know, any time. no one man is the pga tour. he was out for most of 2008 an we had a record year that year. from a television standpoint he brings so much attention to the sport. it would be great to have him back. it's important for any sport to have number-one player of athlete back and playing. i was encouraged when he said he was very open to returning this year. we're hopeful that he can get this issues to a point that allows him to do that during 2010. >> larry: he didn't really owe this, did he?
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i mean, he didn't owe a statement about his personal life or anything. he didn't have to do this today. do you think it was wise? >> well, i did. you know, i -- you know, my sense is that it had something to do with his therapy, but also, you know, i think he recognizes that to wait until he walks out on the golf course, you know, the fans want to know that he's focused on where he needs to be and that they can count on him, you know, moving forward to get these issues resolved, get them behind him and be able to come out and play the game, as i said earlier, but to do it with a certain amount of comportment and with some understanding of his focus on his personal issues. so this is a major step i thought for him to talk about very personal issues in a very open and candid way. when he says things like, you know, "i was the fame and money
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gave me a sense of entitlement that i felt i was operating in the parameters of rules that apply to other people, don't apply to me. things like that. i thought it was very revealing of how focused he is on these issues. >> larry: thanks, tim, see you on the fairways. >> thanks, larry. appreciate it. >> larry: tim finchem, pga tour commissioner. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the cadillac cts sport sedan. one of car & driver's 10 best for the third year in a row. ♪ and now, cadillac announces the new luxury collection lease. and now, cadillac announces there's a big reason to lower high cholesterol... dangerous plaque that can build up
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>> larry: we wind up things with our panel. jim gray, what do you think happens from here? when does tiger come back? >> well, i hope that he comes back this season. he left the door open. you know, i've been thinking about the great icons and tiger's often compared to mohamed ali and babe ruth and michael jordan. i remember how inclusive mohamed ali was, how he put his arm around everybody and brought everybody along and made them feel good. i remember the great day ten years ago you took me with you to see president mandela. he said, people will forget what you say and people will forget what you do.
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no w no one will ever make people forget the way you made them feel. i think today was the beginning of repairing the damage. i hope that he will fulfill what he said he will do and live a life of integrity and bring people along now. >> larry: very well said. what do you think is next? >> i just finished sitting here talking to my friend. it's more what you do speaks so loudly. what you say doesn't matter. and -- >> larry: words are cheap. >> right. words are cheap. what he does is he does make everybody feel good. that's not as job. the deal is they want him to be something he's not because that's what they want. i will tell tiger, man, what somebody thinks about you is none of your business. don't worry about what they think about you. he is back already. the fact he came back and spoke today, he's back. the real deal, everybody just wants him to play golf. let him play golf. >> larry: howard? >> he's my client. i'm going to tell him three things. get a thick skin, as john just said.
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learn, practice your buddhism and really practice patience because you fall in a hole really kbquickly, you get out really slowly, and play amazing golf. that's what got you there in the first place. >> larry: what would you say if he were your patient? >> i have a different priority than these guys do. it takes three to five years to thoroughly treat the condition tiger has. very serious condition. >> larry: sex addiction? >> absolutely. >> larry: some people say it isn't. >> he's admitted to a program. you have to meet criteria for this condition to be admitted to a program that is state licensed such as the one in mississippi he's in. it cannot be discussed anymore. he has it. the other issue people need to remember is elin has as much work as he does. oftentimes the spouse, feels betrayed and feel like that's the person that needs the treatment, is reluctant. they need to participate as much and sometimes more than the identified patient. a lot f work ahead, but if they want to salvage this marriage and help this family they have three to five years really intensive treatment ahead.
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>> larry: quickly, jim, will it affect his play? >> that's an interesting question. it's always been stated much back by the english and over in scotland that it's a game of inches. the most important one is in between your ears. tiger woods is going to have to have everything going on right in his mind to have his game. he hasn't lost his golf game. right now, he looked shaken to me today. i don't think he's in any condition to play golf. i think it's exactly right. he needs to get his life straight and in order. i think he'll play great golf again but take some time and remains to be seen if he'll be at that pinnacle he was before all of this happened. >> larry: the other athlete here, john, do you he will play well? >> kobe bryant played better. when it was all around him, this was his sanctuary. i agree with dr. drew, that his wife has to have this conversation because they have to get back together. and you have to get back together and

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