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defects that led to deaths. >> i am deeply sorry for any accident toyota drivers experienced. >> could that have led to runaway cars. >> this is absolutely appalling, sir. that's next on larry king live. dalai lama met last week with president obama. how did that meeting go? >> very good. of course, when he was back a

senator i met once and very impressive. he was very sympathetic. last year all this meeting, but then before, just before his visit i felt better not meet -- >> larry: you said that? >> yes, and he said that. he said if you, and i fully agree it's better. since, he very, very seriously thinking to talk to chinese leaders, the issue, to talk.

so it was maybe better not meeting take place at that time. so it was postponed. and this time, despite some difficulties, you see, we had that meeting and very pleasant one. >> larry: what, your holiness, what do you want from him? what do you want from america? >> actually i mentioned by three commitments. number one commitment, promotional human value in order to create better world, more compassionate world, and peaceful world, and for that technology, economy, it's not ultimate source of peace. the ultimate source of peace is inner peace, and inner peace

come through a more compassionate heart. so that's my number one commitment. i always say wherever i go, i want to start these things. so i mentioned that. on that level we are same human being, and the same veracity, the human being like that, so it's our common interest and common responsibility, and i mentioned that. the second, my commitment is promotional religious harmony. i mentioned that, and so we see the force of an agreement, and he is in very much favor and i hope he can also, i think, make an effective sort of contribution in these three. and then he brought tibet to

iss issue, we have elect the political leadership. so the tibeten issue, the political sight, and mainly it's a responsible by the educated person. so i had some note that he prepared, and of course my full agreement, so then i mentioned firstly i would report to him in what are the up-to-date sort of contact with chinese government. then also beside that the community, in free country, so we are carrying various kinds of work for tibetan culture and

tradition. and also we discussed the help for modern education, tibetan children, not only off site but also inside tibet, also some scholarship tibetan youth, they immensely benefit. >> larry: was he receptive? >> yes, very receptive. and truly after our meeting, they made the pressure issue a statement, the american administration fully supported my approach. >> larry: where does it stand now between you and the chinese government? right now? where are you at? >> now, you know, the chinese

government denying the problem. >> larry: they deny it? >> yes, they say tibetan very happy prosperity, and much, much better than previous tibet. but we received information despite culture, or all these fields, so much adversity and control and restriction. so it was a few years ago i met one tibetan who come from tibet, and one professional person, and he told me his own salary, accommodation and also the education for his children, no

worry, everything is good. but then he mentioned but as a tibetan, mentally and emotionally, some kind of -- what is it? feeling? >> larry: pressure. >> pressure. when he mentioned that, it was a tear. >> larry: we will have more on china and tibet as our exclusive interview with the dalai lama continues. ♪ where do gummy bears hide? under the seat. look! yeah! ♪ [ telephone rings ] [ male announcer ] the all new chevy equinox. [ man ] guess who? dad! [ man ] enjoy the trip! okay, daddy! [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] a consumers digest best buy. with a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. it takes you farther... and brings you closer.

>> larry: will there ever be greater autonomy for tibet? the dalai lama admits the chinese government has hardened against him. we spoke about what the effect might have on relations and progress between tibet and china. when americans are asked, what is more important, that tibet become independent or the united

states maintain good relations with china? it's a quandary. but americans -- more americans think that it's important for the united states to maintain good relations are china. can we do both? >> actually, we are not seeking independence. no. we are -- that's why we call middle of the way. we complain the present policy in tibet. it is actually very much damaging about the tibetans' religious freedom and culture and also very bad for environment. but on the other hand, we also do not want separation from china. because the tibet landlocked country materially is backward. every tibetan wants more for tibet. for that reason, remain with the

peoples republic of china. it's our own interest as far as materials delivery is concerned. meaningful autonomy in the field of culture, education, religion. in these fields, the tibetans can handle a better way. in these fields tibetans should have full sort of authority. that's midway. firstly, we're not seeking independence. therefore some people are tibetans and are supporters and our friends are a little critical. we are not fighting for independence. this is no contradiction.

keeping good relations with china and in the meantime to support, you see, what we are carrying stock of. so actually the tibetan -- our approach is to bring unity and stability. so if you use common sense, then our approach is the best interest for the people of china. >> larry: didn't you recently say that the middle way was failing? >> yes. after the 10th of march crisis in 2008, i publicly expressed now our effort, one aspect of our sort of effort. that is to bring improvement inside tibet. now, that aspect failed. that does not mean complete failure. on the other hand, there are approaches that brings a lot of support from chinese

intellectuals or writers. and then many in government now clearly including the united states government and also the indian government fully support our approach. >> larry: you left your country 50 years ago. >> over 50 years ago. >> larry: over 50 years ago. do you miss it? do you think of it a lot? what are your feelings? that's a long time. >> yes. occasionally i remember my experience of childhood and the summer palace. sometimes i remember these things. but otherwise i lost a few tears. the major portion of my life was spent in india, and my body is

supported by indian rice and indian dollar. >> larry: so you don't think of it a lot? >> so i don't much think about it, put our concern is 6 million tibetan people's basic rights and their culture and tibetan environment. these are the main issue. now, in early '80s when the emperor was there, his thinking was very liberal and realistic. at that time he offered five-point proposal. that's about my return, about my concern. at that time we responded to the chinese government. this is not the issue. the issue is 6 million tibetan people's rights. not me. i'm not the issue. >> larry: the dalai lama has an incredible sphere of influence, which is why he's doing what he

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is that? >> actually, the leader of this whole child international organization came to see me some time ago last year and explained about her work. i was very much impressed. then i accepted her invitation, so now i come here. so this is extremely important, because my number one commitment is to build a healthy world, a compassionate world. so these young children are the future generation. so they cultivate or nurture compassion from -- right from the beginning. it's very, very essential. now this organization is taking special care of these vulnerable children who i felt are like helpless children. >> everywhere?

>> everywhere in the organization. so otherwise, you see, these children who lack affection, then these -- there's real danger. eventually these children become merciless people. >> larry: how do you reach them? >> they're taking care not only just to provide food or shelter and education, but provide a connection. so that's very, very important. so that's, i think, the real way or right way to cultivate affection on the child's mind. so this is, i think, wonderful. i really appreciate it. this is their work. >> larry: do you think it can happen? do you think it can work? >> i don't know what it is carrying this work.

i think the last few years some positive results are already there some of these results are scientifically hard to prove, it's improved. the children not only body but also mind and also intelligence, all these things. so it is wonderful. now, my only hope, my only prayer is to spread this work everywhere, and particularly i mentioned a meeting yesterday morning. i mentioned some of the country's daughter, female, girl. they don't see much use for. you see, sometimes there is sort of a practice of abenting the girl. >> larry: terrible. >> terrible, really terrible. >> larry: who does that? >> originally i heard through

bbc that one chinese woman who carries some research in china proper, she had one interview with the bbc reporter, with her. she mentioned a terrible sort of story. then india also sometimes villagers and farmers consider the son is more useful, daughter is not. of course, india is now my home, and also i want to describe myself as a messenger of india, because i'm buddhist. particularly i consider myself a follower of india's ancient institution of nalinda. anyway, but in india some custom is something a little like they call dowry or something. so the daughter sometimes is --

>> larry: do you speak out in india about this? >> yes, yes, in india. >> larry: all right. we'll talk about haiti next.

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>> larry: welcome back to more with the dalai lama. we talked about human suffering, acute in haiti right now. as a man of god, a man of principle, a man of spirit, how do you explain to yourself what happened in haiti? >> very, very sad. of course, i usually describe myself as a simple buddhist monk. >> larry: a simple buddhist monk? >> i'm one of the 6 billion human beings, same human being on a fundamental level. so the tragedy in haiti is really terrible. the whole nation collapsed. so just yesterday i met someone who asked about my feelings, and

i told. now what's important -- nowadays i think the indication of civilization of the whole world, like the tsunami sort of tragedy, the rest of the world is immense. similarly haiti, the response is very good. now the resources are available. now ultimately much depend on people's own sort of determination and confidence. so i mentioned them. i mentioned they're now important to haitian people. they should think forward, not just away or sad, but work hard and utilized all these funds

properly and then build a new nation, new building, new nation. that's my feeling. >> larry: from bad can come good? >> yes, that's right. >> larry: all right. you were asked the other day about tiger woods, the golfer. you said you had not heard of him. >> yes. >> larry: he is a buddhist. he said that unfortunately he left buddhism and practiced infidelity and got in trouble. you said fidelity is a discipline. do you think it's a difficult discipline? >> no. discipline means protection of your own interests. that's one discipline. another discipline by order is something different. those totalitarian regimes give order, and that's unwanted. the spiritual, moral ethics are self-discipline.

that actually, just like taking care of your own body. a doctor's suggestion. this is a certain food to reduce -- a certain food should sort of stop like that. >> larry: same thing? >> that's self-discipline. >> larry: how is your health? >> my health is very good. you know, in october 2008 i went through surgery to remove the gallbladder. so i since then i talk when the public talks, in some cases i mentioned among the audience. some people may have to view the dalai lama have healing power, so since then scientifically i prove that i don't have no healing power. but, however, it's very fit, my body. >> larry: despite all you've gone through and been through, do you remain optimistic? >> oh, yeah.

it is much better. >> larry: why? >> why? oh, the future is open. and then still we are in this planet. so now i think the practical reason is judging even in the 20th century, i think the later part of the 20th century basically much more healthier than the early part of the century. now, for example, i think the comfort of peace, reconciliation and also the concept of love and compassion, i think these are -- and also the environment issue. i think human beings, i think it's better to have all the reality. and i feel in 20th century through a lot of pain, killing,

i think some -- according to some experts, the 20th century more than 200 million people killed through warfare. so such a painful experience helped humanity thinking more mental. so i'm optimistic. >> larry: one other thing. you talk of love. you love the chinese? >> certainly. we have to practice that. sometimes you see some of these hard liners of a policy, ruthless policy. sometimes i got some irritation, but a short moment. >> larry: you still love them? >> yes. i have to make effort to keep love. >> larry: thank you. >> thank you. thank you. since i think modern, i think at least around 15 years. >> larry: 15 years since last we were together. >> so you are not much changed, so congratulations.

>> larry: nor you, thank you. his holiness -- i haven't changed? i'm older. his holiness the dalai lama. can you rely on toyota. the head of the automaker is here next with the answer.

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. >> larry: the grandson of toyota's founder testified today. if you have a question, by the way, send it into our facebook page, it's facebook.com/larryki facebook.com/larrykinglive. mr. toyota, you spoke english well in the opening statement. why do you prefer we do it through an interpreter? >> translator: because i was given the opportunity to speak at the hearing and i wanted to convey that we are working hard

to gain the public's trust and that's why i asked to use interpreters. >> larry: so you prefer your date of language. was it a difficult day for you? >> translator: yes, honestly, i think it was not an easy day. but i tried very hard, and i am not confident to what degree our sincerity was conveyed, but we are working together with the dealers and other customers who support us, our suppliers and other colleagues and our employer -- employees, and they all supported me, so i held on so far. >> larry: mr. toyota, would you say you were treated fairly by the congressmen? >> translator: this was my first

opportunity to experience the hearings. i'm not sure if it was fair or not, but i would say i wonder to what extent people were able to understand what i was trying to say, and i would like to continue talking to people until they come to understand us. >> larry: do you think -- what do you think your grandfather would have said about all this, mr. toyota? how disappointed do you think he would be? >> translator: well, my grandfather probably wishes that he is telling me to regain the trust of those customers who are driving our vehicles. you have to take the leadership to work very hard so that we can win back our customers. i'm sure he is really cheering us.

>> larry: you apologized on behalf of toyota. one congresswoman, congresswoman marcy kaptur, didn't think you showed enough remorse. how sad -- this is hard to put in words maybe -- how sad are you over this? >> translator: well, all the vehicles bear my name, and if the people's trust vis-a-vis the vehicle gets lessons, then that is the same to myself. it is very difficult to express with words, but sometimes people tell me that i'm not explaining enough. it's unfortunate, but i really would like to continue doing my very best to convey my feelings. >> larry: mr. toyoda, you offered your condolences to the saylor family specifically who

lost four members when their toyota accelerated out of control. what do you say to all -- what can you say now to the families directly, many of whom will be watching tonight, who have lost loved ones? what do you say directly to them as we show the saylor family? >> translator: i would like to really express my most heartfelt sadness that those members of the family have had to lose their lives with a toyota vehicle, and i would like to pray for them and extend my most heartfelt condolences. >> larry: so the pain is obvious. who, when we look back, mr. toyoda, who is at fault? where did this start? was it the engineers? who made the mistake?

in retrospect, where is the blame? >> translator: for we at toyota, we are trying very hard to make a good product, good vehicles. when you think about what caused this, there may be many factors. when we look back upon what we have been doing, we always said that to make a vehicle means to make people. this has been said for the past 70 years, and in that regard, perhaps our business grew much faster, outpaced development of our human resources. that's one factor, and another factor is that toyota is a manufacturing company, but sometimes people said we are manufacturing money, and we must say there may have been a factor or that element within our organization. since i became a president last

year in july, i have been sending out messages to all our employees, let's make better vehicles so that our customers would be very happy to ride our vehicles, and we would like to maintain this. we really want to go back to these very basics. >> larry: toyota has long been a symbol of japan's manufacturing might. what is the reaction over there? that's next. don't go away. 

>> do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? if so, answer affirmatively. >> larry: we're back with akio toyoda, the president and ceo of toyota motor company. you discussed taking responsibility. what do you do, mr. toyoda, with that responsibility? more than 8 million vehicles have been recalled worldwide. what do you do for your customers now? >> translator: first of all, to our customers i would like to say that toyota vehicles are safe. for example, customers are

perhaps most concerned about unintended acceleration, and they might be concerned about our electronic throttle control system may have a problem, but i am here to explain to the american people that our engineers tried to reproduce those problems, alleged problems, and they've been working very hard, and as far as their effort goes, we were not able to re-create those malfunctioning, so at this point in time, i would say that our vehicles are safe, however, depending upon how the vehicles are used, on what kind of a roadway it's driven and how long it's been used, they may present different behavior phenomenon,

so going forward we would like to really sincerely listen to the voices of the customers. we want to pay more attention to the voices of the customers, and i'm really steering the company so that we can do that going forward, and if we are to encounter such a problem in the future, we should be able to respond to them much more quickly. and i would like to commit to that, and i believe that is my responsibility to implement that. right now -- >> larry: are you -- >> translator: right now i'm the only person who is to do that. >> larry: the buck stops with you. are you saying that in some cases you would put warnings on the cars as to in what conditions or where to drive them?

>> translator: well, i believe that the vehicles are made by the roadways in each locale. the conditions of the roadways are changing, and we have to pay attention to that constantly, so it is not that i am to say here that, yes, we will put the warning sign here and there, rather, we really have to become much more attentive in listening to the voices from the customers, and we want to provide something more convenient, easier to use, much better and higher technical capability, and we would like to strive for that. >> larry: have you come up, mr. toyoda, with a solution to the acceleration problem? do we definitively know why those cars accelerated? >> translator: well, they are four sort of categories of the

cars. as i said earlier, the electronic throttle control's failure is one, and the other one is the way in which the car is driven and structural of the vehicle, for example, the relation or the location of the axle, pedal, axle and the brake pedal, or there may have been the problems with the parts and components, so i would say roughly those four categories. the etc, electronic throttle control, as far as our investigation goes, they did not present any problems, however, unfortunately, in reality there are accidents in the world, and

so we would like to work together with various people and continue to pursue what could possibly cause these problems. and other things -- >> larry: i'm sorry. go ahead. >> translator: -- we are installing the brake override system, so in the very unlikely event we should be able to handle that issue. >> larry: you are not blaming the driver, though, are you? >> translator: no, not at all. >> larry: will toyota overcome this crisis, regain its reputation? we'll ask that right after the break.

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>> larry: back with our remaining moments with akio toyoda. will toyota -- will toyota company pay for the funerals of victims and hospital costs and the like? >> translator: that relates to some of the legal matters going forward. we would like to do our utmost effor efforts. >> larry: it would seem that obvious -- anyway, your critics back home say that you didn't act quickly enough to deal with this problem, you should have been involved sooner. a lot of people in japan are saying that. are they right? should -- in retrospect, should you have acted sooner?

>> translator: yes. looking back at this point in time, i feel that we should have acted much more promptly. when our company has grown so rapidly globally since i became the president, i have assigned the executive vice president to really look at each region so they can be much closer to each locale, so they can respond to various needs on the part of the customers of each region. and at this time this problem was so huge, and i really reflect upon the fact that i should have stepped in myself much sooner, and that may have caused some more concern, or some people may have felt uncomfort or unhappy.

i would like to take this opportunity to apologize for that. >> larry: mr. toyoda, frankly, can the toyota company come back? can it be what it once was? after this. >> translator: yes. right now all our employees are in one. we are now using the safety customer number one. that's our motto. and try to make our company once again strong and really good. our biggest purport is to create good product so that the customers would enjoy using them and be happy with them. unfortunately, we have to talk about this quality issue with customers and try to remove their concern this time. but i hope in the future we would be able to carry out many

dialogues together with the customers so that we can tell them how to use our vehicles in such a fun way and they can enjoy them in a very safely manner. to that end we would be working very, very hard. so i would like to ask your continued support. >> larry: all right. a couple of other things. do you see any japan bashing in this? >> translator: japan bashing? no. well, at least through these quality problems we learned a lot. this was a great opportunity for us to stop and look back upon ourselves. i take it a great opportunity that, you know, this was a great learning experiences for us. so leveraging on these

experiences, i hope that we can really come back, make a comeback, and we never thought this was a japan bashing. >> larry: all right. two other things. you're famous for being publicity shy. is this difficult for you? was it hard to appear on this program tonight? >> translator: well, larry, i feel really honored that i was able to appear on your program as the number one person of my company. i thought the vehicles, the cars is the main character. so i wanted to stay on the side stage. but perhaps i should change my idea going forward. and i need to talk to customers

more straightforwardly. >> larry: thank you. one other thing. from our twitter at king's things. what kind of car do you drive? >> translator: well, i ride many different cars. let's say i would drive 200 different vehicles in a year. so it's rather difficult to say which car or what car i ride. i love cars. >> larry: thank you very much, mr. toyoda. i hope everything turns around. thank you very much for being with us. >> translator: thank you. >> thank you very much, larry. >> larry: akio toyoda, president and ceo, toyota motor company. thanks for watching. time now for the latest news on time now for the latest news on cnn. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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