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hello there, everybody. from the cnn center, this is ""cnn saturday." a saturday but it's busy weekend on capitol hill. hello to you all. i'm. thej. holmes. >> i'm abbie boudreau. it's getting down to the final hours before the vote and several house democrats are still trying to decide if
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they'll vote for or against the health care reform bill. we'll look at what's in the bill, how much it will cost and who's voting for it. the red river is about to crest. reynolds wolf is there for us in moorhead, minnesota. reynoldings, seems like you do this story, what, i don't know, every year? >> reporter: seems that way. they have it down to a science in this part of the world. i'm coming you from moorhead, minnesota. across the way is fargo and in between is red river. two cities, one river, one flood of historic proportions. we'll talk about how this has been affecting thousands of people. spring begins today. we have a may josh winter storm in parts of the nation. in oklahoma, in fact, the state already declared a state of emergency. all 77 counties in the state of oklahoma under that emergency possibly getting up to a foot of snowfall. another busy weather morning,
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talking about all of it coming up in a few moments. of course, health care reform is our top story this hour. after months of debate, the house pushes toward a vote tomorrow on the senate version of the bill. the house rules committee meets at 8:00 a.m. eastern today and decide how tomorrow's voting will play out. the full house convenes this morning at 9:00. president obama huddles this afternoon with senate democrats. 216 votes are needed to pass or kill the measure and across the country today tea party groups are meeting to protest the reform plan. we're expecting to see a letter pope benedict about the sex abuse scandal in ireland and possibly an apology to the pope. earlier this week, the top catholic cardinal conceded the reaction is, quote, hopelessly
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inadequate. air travelers across the world can be feeling the affects of aloe boar strike. british airways is canceling more than a thousand flights today after a walkout. this is big news. last-ditch talks collapsed last night so we reel to see where that all goes. we have been saying it seems like for quite sometime this is it for health care reform so we're going to say it again. this could be it. a vote expected tomorrow and for a lot of these lawmakers, one vote, it comes down to this and it could mean the difference between them come having a job come november. data bash has the story. >> reporter: this vote is difficult for many democrats but it is especially true for the freshman who helped give house democrats the huge majority by winning republican districts and for them it is nothing short of their job that is are on the line. >> good morning. okay. well, i can definitely pass the
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message along to the congresswoman for you. could i get your name and address, sfleez. >> reporter: you are a new member of congress. you are from the swing district in the swing state. >> that's right. >> reporter: there's a lot of pressure on you politically. you could lose your seat over that. >> when i campaigned for the seat, i said i would work for jobs for the community, help to work to improve our economy, that i understood the many people who are just a pink slip away from losing their health insurance. >> reporter: tom perrillo voted for the health care bill in november and got pounded for it in his district. still on a conference call here he would he would vote yes again. >> i think this is vital for the families of district, hospitals and doctors and nurses of the district. >> reporter: freshman democrat botieri from ohio that voted no on health care in november and revealed he's switching to yes. >> a lot of people tell me this decision could cost me my job.
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i felt pressure from families that called me and written to me, who had told me they want me to be with them and not the insurance companies. >> reporter: how much angst do the freshman democrat haves? we asked deanna titus who barely won her seat and has an uphill battle to get re-elected. how much pressure are you feeling back snoem you are one of those democrats in a tough position. >> we are getting lots of phone calls and about $1 million tv ads running against it. >> reporter: are you worried about losing your sneet. >> i think there's more important things than my reelection. >> reporter: titus later said she is voting for the health care bill again but not all vulnerable democrats, freshman or otherwise, are breaking for the bill. in fact, jasonality mire from a swing disflikt pennsylvania and voted no on health care in november publicly considered voting yes this time but he decided he is once again a nay. and there are plenty of other democrats in tough reelection
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battles this year undeclared but they don't want to talk about it. . thej.? >> all right. thanks to our dana bash. let's give you numbers here now. everybody's trying to keep up exactly with what's happening but those are the special folks right there. they tier democrats who have not yet declared how they will vote on the bill tomorrow. the total number of democratic no votes to kill the bill is 38. by our latest count they're at 30 democrat who is are saying no right now. others, still kind of up in the air. throughout the day, cnn will continue to keep count and canvassing house members for updates on the numbers. >> we know how much it is expected to cost but where will the money come from for reform? the congressional budget office puts the price tag at $940 billion over 10 years. much of that would come in a medicare tax and for the first time the tax could be applied to investment income as well as
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wages. money would also come from a tax on high cost medical plans. but that would be delayed until 2018. another source penalties for those who don't get health insurance coverage. cnn, of course, is counting the votes. follow the special live coverage as the decision comes down to the wire. all day tomorrow right here on cnn. well, we turn the weather and situation we see play out every single year at the red river doing it again. not expecting a record levels of it to crest. around 40, 41 feet, the actual record they saw last year but about a million sandbags have been filled now. they are in place. the governor up there tim pa lenty seems to think we have this in place and the people and sandbags to handle it with practice, they do it every year. >> yeah. there's been a lot of careful planning and they felt like they were really prepared but still a few unexpected problems.
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engineers and volunteers had a chance to test how ready they were when the dike suddenly sprung a leak. >> you have a joint. every six feet. those joints, we believe, started failing and so, we started getting water on the dry side of our levy system. >> all right. our reynolds wolf is live for us there in moorhead, minnesota. made his way up yesterday. and reynolds, i know you have seen this river and seen it this time of year when it begins to flood. every single year. but is there anything that seems different this time? are they in worse shape on better shape than you have seen before? >> reporter: i would say overwhelmingly much better shape. there's a sense of calm here and part of it is preparation. they got things started on march 1st. over a million sandbags cover both sides of the river. amazing job. on a personal level, i drove up here from the dwin cities. yesterday, the crew flew in and coming in seeing this area, from
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high above, was just mind boggling. how far and how wide the flooding is. a river flowing northward for thousands and thousands of years. it is still flooding as we speak. the level expected to just go shy of the crest of last year going up to 40.8 feet, but still, major flooding. keep in mind, folks, across america, flood stage, major flood is about 18 feet or higher. we anticipate up to about 37.5. right now, a little bit over 36 so it has a ways to go. very quickly, you can see the trains moving across. union pacific railway. you have main street and then you can see center street bridge. water is very high in both directions. we'll give you a better view as the sun comes up. we have another storm system in the central plains. i want to go to the maps quickly. starting off with right now, widespread flooding. again, see the map here. everything in green, the watches and warnings in terms of flooding.
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fargo and as far north adds grafton. a foot in some places and more south of denver and i-25, anyone traveling in that direction could be rough for you. we are seeing on the map, not only snowfall back towards oklahoma city, but to the south. showers, storms, possibly damaging straight-line winds. today's forecast is as follows. heavy knsnow, of course. warm conditions and out west. central plains and back here, flooding is the big story. we are showing you what's been doing on. there are tons of women and men trying to make sure things are just fine. we have a special guest with us this morning. this is sergeant jason ogdal with the north dakota air national guard. >> that's correct. >> you've been out i guess all night checking the strength of the dams. correct? >> that's correct. >> reporter: what do you do out there walking about? what are
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you looking snr. >> cracking. when the dikes start cracking off towards the river. we got alert the engineers that the point to check it out. also, looking for when it cracks through the center and leaking through, this is a concern. >> reporter: this is a tough thing on an average day but this is around the clock and got to be kind of tough. if you were to see something break in one of these levies, what's the first step you take? >> first step is call back to our emergency operation center. alert them. that way they can get ahold of a quick-reaction team. send them to that spot exactly. start hitting it. >> reporter: it is all about protecting the people. what's the mood of the people? >> it's been upbeat and good. people bring us cookies, you know? little snacks, things like. that it's always nice to see them out there supporting us. >> reporter: a little measure of appreciation makes a long night ease dwroer take, i'm sure. >> it does. it does. >> reporter: i know you have had a long night. thank you for your great work.
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many people are thankful. >> thank you. >> reporter: take care, sir. that's the story. real sli that midwest can-do attitude that people have. the water is still coming up. seeing it rise a bit more. one of the reasons, the snow there in the background. all melting. that should stop but the water is coming up. remember, spring officially begins today. what a mess. guy, let's send it back to you in the studio. >> looks like springtime, doesn't it there, reynolds? appreciate you, buddy. thank you so much. >> at least they're getting cookies for the help they're doing. >> that's something. all right. lawmakers are working on a saturday gearing up far possible historic vote this weekend. >> yes. expecting to see that tomorrow but a lot of activity and movement happening today to bring you, as well. might as well declare thursday of this week and friday just a national holiday because all the productivity at the office goes down anyway. let people out for the day and you probably know what i'm talking about. we're right back.
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basketball fans across the country are reeling from march madness. >> the president gets involved this, as well. as you know, he's a pretty big basketball fan. there he is filling out the bracket again. he did this last year and this year, as well. this year, he correctly predicted 13 of the 16 team that is won on friday. that's one more win than he got the day before but still pretty good numbers for the president. >> chosen georgetown to make it to the round of eight. instead, the number three seed stunned by the 14th seeded ohio university. >> yeah. this was a stun for everybody. georgetown expected to do pretty well and pretty much the ones to be embarrassed by what happened rye you watching? >> thursday was a holiday for me. i sat down at noon and didn't get up from the same seat until about 10:00 at night. >> really? >> yes. >> i don't know. i'm more of a baseball fan.
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>> come on. >> i'm embarrassed. >> that's a good sport. >> basketball's my number three. >> all right then. >> want to know what's in the health care sfwhil. >> we all do. everybody's been pouring through a bunch of different bills, actually. now we have a reconciliation bill to consider. we have a reality check this morning. good morning to you, josh. >> i can stand here and do reality checks from noon to 10:00 and be perfectly happy. president obama saying it will save the nation more than a trillion dollars. but that's not exactly what the congressional budget office says. health care and taxpayer money coming up. it doesn't take much;
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ask your doctor if cialis is right for you. you can be ready for your moment with cialis. all right. getting down to the wire with this health care reform legislation. we're hearing a whole lot of claims, maybe some new ones on both sides about what's in there. >> are they true? that's what josh levs will tell us. josh, what have you got for snus. >> all right, guys. we are going to start off with something the democrats saying, nancy pelosi said it and president obama said it yesterday. take a look. >> but this bill, according to the congressional budget office, which is the referee, the scorekeeper for how much things cost, says we'll save a trillion dollars. not only can we afford to do this, we can't afford not to do this. >> so we're hearing this a lot to save the nation a trillion dollars over 20 years.
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that's not exactly what the congressional budget office is saying. it's not exactly what they're saying. let's -- am i hearing we don't have screens? okay. i have to talk to you about it. okay. there you go. it is working. see, claude. you got it. over the next ten years, it would save $138 billion. that's not more than a trillion. then they were asked to look at what happens past that. another ten years. here's the next screen. they found that it would save a little tiny piece of whatever our gdp is at that point. they don't actually know how many dollars it saves us. one half of gdp. whatever the gdp is in that decade, a tiny little bit. more than a trillion dollars? we don't really know, unfortunately. something for the other side for you now. let's look at something the republicans have been saying. >> there's no precedent for what the democrats are doing. we have never written a
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reconciliation fwoil amend a law that does not exist sigh there no precedent for this and are the democrats doing something pretty much amending a law that doesn't kis? kind of. that is website. they go through, they look assertions. this is one here. talking about lies of health care and what they do is they rate various claims and took a look at this one from the republican representative cliff stearns and give him this thing, half true. here's a basic idea why. i'll show you. they talked a whole lot of experts about this saying that experts say there's a lot of similar examples of what the democrats are proposing to do. however, he is right on part of it. stearn is correct, this is the first time congress has ever -- listen to these words. first time congress has ever written a reconciliation bill to amend a law that does not exist. i like taking a look at. that it is a reminder of how complicated the entire system is and going on in washington right now and if you want to know
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everything that's going on in washington right now, cnn.com/health care. i have links for my facebook there and links to what i just showed you. and cnn.com/healthcare. we'll be keeping a eye on all of these claims flying around washington in the coming days and especially in the coming hours. down to like 36 hours or less before that big vote on capitol hill. >> but who's counting? >> so many numbers. >> tick tock. >> too many numbers right now. thank you. >> sure. you talk about the representatives and their votes being on -- jobs being on did line. do you know actually how your member of congress is voting on health care? a lot of people, quite frankly, do you know who your representative is? go to cnn.com/politic farce list of the votes and then we want you to tell us who your representative is and why you agree or disagree with how he or she is voting. this is also the facebook question of the day.
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sea world orlando trainers have a new set of rules for handling killer whales now ordered to keep the distance when extracting blood samples or brushing their teeth. they were closer than they're allowed to get now. this happened, of course, that have attack that killed one of the trainers there. there are some indications, however, that some of the new rules could change by summer. sea world says all the new decisions are in honor of that trainer killed in a whale performance.
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the pressure cooker weekend in washington. president obama meets with house democrats today in an effort to encourage support for a sweeping reform plan. 216 votes are needed to pass the measure. that vote expected tomorrow. also, opponents of the president's health care reform gathering on capitol hill today to send a message to congress. the tea party and other organizations taking nart a noontime process. several lawmakers are scheduled to speak along with actor and activist jon voight.
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♪ working for a living ♪ i'm taking what they're giving because i'm working far living ♪ jobs. it's been the number one economic issue for president obama and this week he offered new hope for struggling americans. on thursday, he signed into law a new $38 billion package. it offers modest tax breaks for employers and only a relative handful of benefits for those willing to hire in such uncertain times. the bottom line, it falls short
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of what he and many other democrats wanted. the white house said it had sought sweeping incentives for employers to add jobs. also on the president's radar today, the nation's financial crisis. a lot of stuff to juggle right now. >> the president calls for the biggest overhaul to the financial system since the 19 30z. the legislation calls for a creation of an agency to advocate for every day americans. >> the fact is, it's now been well over a year since the near collapse of the entire financial system. a crisis that helped wipe out more than 8 million jobs and that continues to exact a terrible toll throughout our economy. yet today, the very same system that allowed this turmoil remains in place. no one disputes that. no one denies that reform is needed. so the question we have to answer is very simple. will we learn from this crisis? or will recondemn ourselves to repeat it? that's what's at stake.
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i urge those in the senate who support these reforms to remain strong, to resist the pressure from those who would preserve the status quo. to stand up for our country and i promise to use every tool at my disposal to ensure that the bill signed into law reflects not special interests of wall street but the interests of the american people tie proposed overhaul comes abid more bank failures. regulators shut down seven banks yesterday on top of the 30 closed earlier this year. experts say the rate of bank seizures will likely accelerate in the coming months. 30, wow. hello again, everybody. bottom of the hour now. glad you could be with us. i'm tj holmes. >> i'm abbie boudreau. certainly health care is a big story all weekend long and probably beyond the weekend but the house plans a vote tomorrow
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on the senate version of the bill. kind of sort of. we'll get into the technical stuff in a little while but this morning the house rules committee meeting to decide how tomorrow's voting will play out. they set the ruls, quite frankly. the full house will then convene at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. president obama will make a final push, plea to house democrats this afternoon. going to have a strategy session on getting the bill through the chamber. 216, that is the magic number. how many votes are needed to either pass or kill the health care reform measure. also in washington and across the country today, tea party groups meeting to protest what they call obama care. pope benedict will address the church sex scandal today. about half an hour, the pope will release a letter to focus on the abusive priests in ireland where the scandal is growing. new complaints cropping up in six european countries include the pope's homeland of germany. more than a thousand flights
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are being canceled today. you're listening to me at airport, you probably just cringed but let me explain. we're talking about one of the world's largest air carrier dealing with a three-day strike. cabin crews walked off the job and negotiations broken down last night with british airways. that airline chartered flights for some of the rivals to accommodate some of those affected passengers. and it's a big day for health care as we all know and the president, it's big day for him, as well. some lawmakers are pushing to kill the bill while president obama urges it forward a. vote is likely tomorrow. also this morning, we are keeping a eye on the red river. how high can it go? and will the million sandbags hold everything back? all that water back. our reynolds wolf is there with the flooding in minnesota. we'll be checking in with him all throughout the morning. it is the bottom of the hour.
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office would reduce premiums for families and small businesses by up to 10%. our bill achieves these goals without cutting medicare or raising taxes and all the details are available at healthcare.g healthcare.g healthcare.gop.gov. the bill raises premiums and ushers in a massive expansion of government with roughly 160 new boards, bureaus and commissions. instead of finding a responsible way to pay for all of this, democrats impose more than a half a trillion dollars in medicare cuts and more than half a trillion dollars in tax hikes. in fact, this bill requires den years of tax increases and ten years of medicare cuts just to pay for six years of supposed benefits. many of which don't even go into effect until 2014. that's not reform. >> the health care debate provides us with a sound of the week this morning. >> take a listen to just some of the rhetoric we have been
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hearing. >> kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! >> i'm confident it will pass and the reason i'm confident it's going to pass is because it's right thing to do. >> we have made clear it's time to scrap the bill. they'll continue to ram, ram, ram this bill through the congress. >> just as co-pays for one month is $350. he's diabetic. he's got asthma. high blood pressure. tie cbo report we have again speaks so eloquent throw the savings that are there for the american people. >> make no mistake. this vote that may occur this week is a betrayal of the american people. where people vote on this bill will have a huge factor, will have a huge impact on whether they're here next year or not. >> what's it going to mean for obama? will his presidency be crippled? or will he be -- or will he be
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the comeback kid? >> cnn is following the health care vote and you can, too. all day tomorrow with our special coverage. cnn, your place for politics. armed with about a million sandbags, folks here in minnesota anne north dakota border hoping they've been doing now have protect the homes and businesses from the rising red river. the river's expected to crest this weekend at about 37.5 feet. that's below the flood protection levels. they're doing everything they can. the governor is confident that the place and personnel can handle the situation. they seem pretty calm. we'll see how it's going, though. >> they seem calm and confident because they do this every single year. they have a lot of experience at this. reynolds wolf in moorhead. you hear me okay? >> reporter: got you loud and
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clear. what we got right now, you hear noise in the background. we got you pan over here, cnn photo journalist chris davis with us. you can see the train across the red river and as that is chugging from east to west, you had the red river actually chugging the way from south to north. this is a north-flowing river and one question we get, t jrj,y does it flood so often? there was a lake and the water from the river relatively weak and flowing to the north meanders. so that when you have a massive snow melt and you can see snow here in the background, it isn't places for the water to go so it spreads out and, again, causes all kinds of issues. issues like, well, some of the floodi ining last year. this year, flood stage is right about 18 feet. this time expected to be up near 37.5. i think i misspoke a second ago.
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this is not record setting. record set was last year at 40.8 feet. this time we're expecting about 37.5. as it make it is way to the north. as you mentioned, tj, we are in moorhead. across the way is fargo. you have two cities dealing with one flood and dealing with this very, very well. they started to plan the sandbags back on march 1st. and because of the freezing conditions, a lot of sandbags like this one right here are actually frozen solid. not really malleable and a big chance that the sandbag levies in the area might break. with that in mind, you have got a lot of people from the national guard on both sides of the river looking to see there f there's breaking in the dams, levies. although there's no reports of houses flooded on either side of the river, if you have one levy that breaks, it is a total game changer. that is why we're here today. that's why we are here tomorrow as that river crests. very quickly, let's go to the
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forecast. we have, of course, the floods here. we got maps to show you the areas shaded in green. that's where you have the floods. moving through maps quickly, we are going to take you from this area to the red river further to the south which makes up parts of the texas and oklahoma border. not flooding but rather snow to see. some places up to a foot of snowfall possible from the front range of the rockies to the central plains. very quickly, eastern seaboard, very warm and lovely. boston, 70 degrees. 75 in washington, d.c. then getting on the other side of the frontal boundary, 36 in denver. 67 back in san francisco. i don't know what it is, guys. seems like every time we hit the weekends, weather goes nuts and the latest from here and the rest of the red river valley, how people are coping. things are looking pretty good. back do you. >> we are glad we have you on the weekends for us. it's very good, reynolds, you made that point.
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even though they do this every year and down to a science, they are really just one levy break away from disaster right now even though things look pretty good. we appreciate you keeping it fall perspective for us. >> we have a little bit of an issue with our audio. what we are going to do is keep the great question. you are full of good ones. keep in it mind and ask me when i see you again. >> okay. we'll let him go and talk to him again soon. for some house members, the vote on health care reform could be one of the most important of their political careers. >> it could be the last. some folks really do believe -- oh my goodness what a beautiful shot of the capitol this morning. but it's going to be ugly inside possibly today so we're going do get into who's undeclared still. we'll look at how the decision could literally cost them a job. on car insurance. can i get in on that? are you a safe driver? yes. discount! do you own a home? yes. discount! are you going to buy online?
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well orks officials in iraq are still counting, still counting the votes after the parliamentary elections there. seems like two weeks ago now. they say there's no clear leader. latest declaring a winner could cause complications if the process takes too long. we have a reporter now live from baghdad and hello. good to see you. we're talking about how to complicate things taking too long. has it already taken too long? where are we in the vote count now? >> reporter: well, hi, tj. with over 90% of the votes counted so far, the prime minister's state of law coe sligs narrowly ahead. the race is much tighter than expected between the prime minister's bloc and the bloc of former interim prime minister. but it is a close vote overall between the two. now, besides the two coalitions, you have iraqi national alliance, mainly shiite alliance leading in three of the
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country's provinces. tj? >> you talk about how close things are, even getting the voting in. we still might have a pretty ugly process because it doesn't seem like anyone's going to have a big enough majority to form the government on their own so the group haves do get along. >> reporter: that's right. you said "ugly." we can't underscore that enough. the fact of the matter is when 100% of the results are announced and could be any day now, none of the parties will have enough seats in order to form a government on their own or the put forth a platform far government on their own so what you are going to see is a prolonged and difficult process with all of these parties, people negotiated and negotiation is already begun but it's only going to continue and get more intense. and this thing could take months and they say iraqi politics is complex. it was difficult enough getting the election going and a law passed. now the election is over and still, really the hard work has just begun. >> quickly, we know there's
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allegations of fraud. now that the time is going by, do you see more of a momentum for people to question the process, regular iraqis starting to question the outcome? >> reporter: well, that's right, tj. so far iraq's independent commission said over 2,000 complaints of different political parties, different politicians, rather, have been lodged but they're saying that they don't have any evidence of real large-scale, widespread fraud or manipulation. nonetheless, the longer this goes on, the more not only candidates question this and want to make sure it's done on the up and up but iraqi people, as well. everybody want this is process to be out there in the open and to be transparent. but the longer this takes, the more people get frustrated and nor see people question the proce process. >> mohammed, we appreciate you jumping in front of the camera this morning. talk to you again soon, buddy. >> reporter: thanks, tj. some of our ireporters sending us thoughts of what's
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going on in washington this morning. >> hey there again, guys. what people are saying about health care and america at events like this. look thait i reporters video.
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on the eve of a vote about health care, lawmakers are not the only ones with strong feelings. we are hearing from you, too. josh has the latest. are you hearing from lots of 'm in what is going on? >> we are. as we know, health care fires people up. right? for more than a year now, all over the country but even now when the big vote is down to the wire, we are hearing from more and more people around the clock. here's one example. this is a person that supports the reform overall. >> most are a job away from health care related financial ruin. the health care reform bill is the only buffer you're likely to have in that eventuality.
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>> he thinks on balance it's way to go. we have an ireport from a person who attended a rally put together relatively at the last minute fighting the reform legislation. let's listen to what the speaker said there. >> we're all scared. we're all worried what about's going on in washington right now. we see the corruption. we see the willingness to change the rules, do things with no votes. trying to pass this by any means necessary. it's just not american. it is just not the country i grew up in. i don't think it's country you folks thought it was, either. >> he adds some of the video there. people standing around. that's what we are getting. fired up people on both sides. i want to show you how to weigh in. go to ireport.com. you can just write it or you can send us a video from wherever you are, photos. we actually have an ireport political cartoonist who sends us political cartoons all the
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time. he says it boils down to do over or overdone and with the elephant with one piece of paper and here donkey holding 10,000 pieces of paper representing the liberal side. take a look at the many we are getting here and show you that ireport is getting all sorts of things. sometimes a lot of fun. this one struck me. look at what one of the ireporters found. she just saw this. come hear our pastor, he's not very good but he's short. other ones on the main page. let me get back out the see a couple others. what they're doing around the country. this is pretty beautiful. a frequent ireporter, rode in a hot air balloon and taking a picture of another one nearby and just said it was beautiful. one more because i've never seen like this. look at the things they're sending us. sometimes so random and amazing. this is one of the ireporters in
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brazil seeing an marmoset in the wild. keep them coming. we love to hear from you, obviously. in these last hours leading up to the vote tomorrow, expect hundreds more. people weighing in on health care and we'll bring you some right here. >> josh, we appreciate you. yes. some interesting ones in there. we'll turn back to health care now. we were asking you throughout, do you know who your representative is? some people don't but if you do, do you know how they plan to vote on health care? we're starting to get responses in from you. via twitter or facebook. i'll share a couple. i'll just read them off from the mac mere on the left. aka mom teach says, no, my representative is republican. i've written and called him to support the bill. coolbreeze from georgia voting for health care.
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i agree with him. if the bill fails to pass, it might destroy obama's presidency. and one more saying, tj, i don't agree. it smells of desperation. sad what some will do not to be proven wrong so keep them rolling in. we appreciate your responses so far. to keep up, if you don't what your representative is doing, go to cnn.com/politics. tell us who your rep is and agree or disagree with his or her vote and you know how to find us on the facebook question of the day. e-mail us or twitter. you can comment on our blog, as well. cnn.com/tj. (jennifer garner) there's a lot of beautiful makeup out there to cover up flaws and make skin look pretty but there's one that's so clever,
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state. >> a lot of people picked georgetown to go further than round one. >> what did you pick? >> i don't fill out a bracket actually. i refuse to because i like to enjoy the game and not cheer for a bracket but the upsets. i'm a purist. such a snob when it comes to the tournament. we'll turn back to north dakota here in just a moment. about a million sandbags guarding the city of fargo right now trying to keep floodwaters out. our reynolds wolf is not too far from there in moorhead, minnesota. hey there, reynolds. >> reporter: you're right, guys. i am coming you from moorhead. across the river, fargo. two towns, red river, one mayor flood and a lot of danger for a lot of people. the very latest and another huge winter storm bull's eye on the central plains. full story coming up on cnn "saturday morning." he checks it out. good thing. turns out...
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hello there, everybody. from the cnn center, this is "cnn saturday" for march 20th, a saturday but a busy work day on
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capitol hill. i'm tj holmes. >> i'm abbie boudreau. thank you for starting your day with us. it is getting down to the final hour bfrs the vote and several house democrats are trying to decide to vote for or against the health care reform bill. we'll look at what's in the bill, how much it will cost and who's voting for it. it is a familiar scene in north dakota this morning. it is where reynolds wolf is standing by hoping and praying the water doesn't go any higher or further. good morning to you again, reynolds. of course, health care reform is our top story this hour. after months of debate, the democratic-controlled house pushes forward toward a vote tomorrow on the senate version of the bill. the house rules committee meets at 1:00, one hour from now, sorry about that. it will decide how tomorrow's vote will play out. the full house convenes today at
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9:00 a.m. president obama huddles this afternoon for pushing the bill through. 216 votes are needed to pass or kill the measure. across the country today, tea party groups are meeting to protest the health care reform plan. pope benedict breaking the silence on the sex abuse scandal in ireland and apologized to victims in ireland. he promised to meet with victimings again and he used the words i'm truly sorry and also directed some attention to those priests, as well, saying you betrayed the trust placed in you by innocent, young people and parents. you must answer for it to almighty god. new complaints are starting to crop up all across europe. at least six european countries including the pope's homeland of germany. air travelers across world could be feeling the affects of a labor strike.
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there's walk out by the british airways cabin crews. last-ditch talks collapsed last night. we'll turn back to health care now. and tomorrow's vote, we have a reporter there this morning. not usually i don't think there with so much company you're going have at the capitol today on a saturday. brianna, i'm not sure where to start with you now. we talk about policy. we could talk about politics. we can talk about vote counts. where do you want to go? >> reporter: let's talk about sticking points. >> all right. >> reporter: i think that's where we'll start and you know what? we are talking about the different angles throughout all of the hours today and there's a lot to cover. but right now what i want to tell you about is a major sticking point democrats have come upon. remember, president obama's going to be coming up here to the hill later today really exerting that final squeeze trying to create some pressure for some of those last-minute undeclared democrats but
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abortion, once again srks popping up as an issue. you say what does abortion have to do with health care? in the senate bill that the shous now considering, it has stricter or pardon me has looser language, less strict language on the issue of abortion than the bill that the house passed in november. they have to deal with the senate-passed bill and anti-abortion democrats saying this is not good enough for us. we'll vote no if it stays like this. back in november, what we saw was the anti-abortion democrats coming in at the 11th hour and striking a deal with speaker with pelosi for the stricter language. bart stupak says that he is talking to speaker pelosi. we're not sure if leadership will indulge the democrats on the issue but we know that last night there were a few members of the pro-choice caucuses as they call themselves, for
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abortion rights saying no way. we are not okay with this. we are going to vote no on this bill if it goes through so it's such a tight vote you can see how this is becoming such an issue. >> you talk about the tight vote and trying to keep as close as a head count as we can here at cnn. we talk about the imagine imnumber of 216. >> reporter: that's what you have to get to pass or kill the bill. 216. all-important number. we have a lot of democratic leadership sources telling us that they're above 200. but after that, it gets pretty fuzzy and that's still a really heavy lift between 200 and 216, tj. the way cnn is keeping track of it is looking at who's voting no. considering the democrats plan on going this alone. they don't have the republican support. they're looking within their ranks. we figured out that 38 democrats saying no would kill the bill. that would give opponents of this bill 216 votes. how many democratic noes are there right now? in our count, 29.
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you can see it's awfully close. we are expecting this vote will be quite a squeaker. >> all right. brianna keeler, we appreciate having you and talking with you plenty as you say throughout the hours. thanks so much, brianna. we know how much it is expected to cost but where will the money come from for health care reform? the congressional budget office puts the estimated price tag at $490 become over 10 years. much of that would come from an increase on the medicare tax on high income households and could be applied to investment income and wages. money would also come from a tax on high cost medical plans but that would be delayed until 2018. another source, penalties for those that don't get health insurance coverage. sorting through whys and nos, undecided, undeclared. flip flops and maneuverings.
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again, we are trying to count these votes for you. just heard from brianna that 216 is what everybody needs to pass it or kill it. now, 38 democrats, if they decide to vote no, if 38 democrats do, then that kills the bill. at our count right now, we are at about 29 democrat who is are saying, who have declared they will not vote for this legislation so that is very fine line. we are trying to keep up with this stuff for us, as well. she is a capitol hill correspondent for cnn radio. you heard us there talking to brianna about the numbers but democrats were starting to sound fairly confident that it was moving in their direction. that they would get enough votes. but really, some of these folks we talk about undecided, undeclared is anybody really undecided right now? they're just not telling us. would that be fair to say? >> reporter: how about the cnn capitol hill team with the tag up here?
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your question is the one that we have. are there any real undecideds here on capitol hill? i believe there are. not that many. i think a dozen or two dozen at the most. and i think as you say democrats like the trend. you know? and brianna talked about the no votes and yes votes we are counting. here's the trend yesterday, tj. we saw undecided come out this way. 11 new yes votes and 2 new no votes. remember, they only have seven no more votes to get. it's not just a trend they need to go their way but stop almost anyone else from saying no at this point. >> that's an interesting point you make that there are really some true undecided but a handful of people up for grabs. we talk about this totally confusing process of how they're trying to get the bill through but essentially they will be approving the senate bill, the bill that the senate did. and then changes they're a
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approving, as well. i found it fascinated. you sat down, you read this entire 2,000-page bill, first of all. but you also read the changes, the reconciliation package, as well. >> reporter: right. >> congratulations for one. and did you understand any of it to explain to us what kind of stood out to you? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. it is a slog reading these bills and because there's so many different versions, we ended up having to read three different 2,000-page bills here. i think a lot stood out. a lot of people know the basics here. they would require all of us get insurance. they would require that most big businesses with over 50 workers pay for that insurance. here's the deal with what's happening right now with the bill. some of the changes, democrats have added some new taxes to pay for all of this. specifically, they're talking about taxes on investments and more taxes on the rich so that's
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what's in this package. i know everyone has a giant headache. doi i do about this reconciliation process. this is how democrats want to think of it. think of it as though to buy a sort of broken down car but you say to the guy you're buying it from, i'm going to buy the new transmission first and as soon as i buy that transmission, i'll automatically buy the car, as well. that's how democrats see this. they see the senate bill as broken down, they don't want to sign on to it until they buy the fixes first. republicans see it differently. but that's one way to look at it. >> lisa, i had enough to worry about. now i have to worry about transmissions. all right. lisa, part of the team and a big team it is today. thanks so much. >> reporter: okay. >> cnn is counting the votes. follow the special live coverage as the decision comes down to the wire all day tomorrow right here on cnn. the red river expected to crest this weekend causing a lot of concern for homeowners in
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minnesota as well as north dakota. >> all right. but this morning some good news for people near the problem spots. >> reynolds wolf keeping an eye on things for us. hello again to you, reynolds. >> reporter: i got you loud and clear this time. things looking good for the most part. the water rising. expected to top out around 37.5 feet but they're watching the levies, the dikes very, very carefully. if there's breaks, we could see problems. watching it for you carefully and watching yet another big storm system in parts of the central plains and could bring some of the areas in oklahoma a foot of snow. more on that coming up. plus paying off your loans in a bad economy. >> yeah. clyde anderson with creative and legal ways to pay down your debt. stay with us. that promise to make my patients look younger. but nothing works like this. [ female announcer ] new neutrogena® clinical skincare, with 10 breakthrough patents, goes beyond lines and wrinkles
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eyes watching the red river. governor tim pawlenty is confident measures in place should prevent massive flooding but they're till not taking any chances. act 700,000 sandbags already being used with an extra 300,000 bags ready if they're needed. the river is expected to crest at about 37.5 feet. that's below flood protection levels so hopefully things are okay. things are a little bit calmer there than normal. >> like we say, they do this every single year. they can keep the water back. we'll bring in reynolds wolf here. they can hold the water, but again, they're just one -- i mean, one break away from total disaster there. >> reporter: yeah. you know, i mean, you know, it's freaky. i'll pick up the sandbag. it's frozen solid. it is a little bit of a moisture content. water frozen solid. thing, is hard to believe, it's just stacks of these keeping communities safe for the levies
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and people not familiar with flood-prone areas, we have viewers from all over the planet. talking about things like levies, what's that? it's base clay defense mechanism to keep the rising waters away from communities. away from major streets. you can see right here, this is the red river. normally a relatively small river. not very wide in a normal situation but it escaped the banks with the warm temperatures and should be just shy of the record last year, 40.8 feet and tell you, give you and the viewers some perspective. i was here at this exact last location and had waders and water up to my waist or so. we can see it rise another foot or so and then always the possibility of seeing levies break. let's give you some more of the situation breaking in terms of weather forecast. let's go right to it and show you shades of green.
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everything you see on the map of green is watches or warnings across parts of fargo, st. cloud and chicago. but as we put it in motion, see that we have another danger that bit further to the south. that is not from snow but rather not from flooding but from snow. places like oklahoma city, one thing to keep in mind about oklahoma itself, the state declared a state of emergency of all 77 counties. that white is snowfall, the reason right there. you have strong storms that could develop. loob for delays in will rogers airport and airports in texas, eastern seaboard and out west looks fine. here the story is the flooding. we'll watch the river carefully. expected to crest late tonight or tomorrow. if one levy breaks, it changes everything. let's send it back to you in the studios, guys. >> thanks. i think you have a monitor there. we can put up a picture of the oklahoma area. you talked about the state of
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emergency there but blizzard conditions. reynolds was saying and 8 to 12 inches and have a state of emergency and, reynolds, in the alert going out cautioning people because oklahoma city is hosting one of the regionals right now for the ncaa tournament and could cause havoc for those folks there and getting ready ahead of the storm and with a -- always strange, these wintry pictures certain gorgeous but that's dangerous stuff, dangerous conditions to deal with here in a little bit. we appreciate you getting that in for us and talking to you again soon. >> reporter: absolutely. >> thanks, buddy. responding to the abuse scandal in the kath rick church, minutes ago the pope release add letter detailing a reaction on the allegations. ...it's easy to feel like you're fading into the background. that's because bipolar depression doesn't just affect you. it can consume you. one option proven effective to treat bipolar depression... is seroquel xr.
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simple, very direct and very personal and said i'm truly sorry. in the name of the church i openly express the shame and remorse that we all feel at the same time i ask you not to lose hope and that is the spirit in which the letter must be read. a letter rather than a directive to bishops to tell them how to act from now on. that is something that the pope says are actually already in place, programs and protocols to make sure that this kind of abuse can't happen. he acknowledge it is mistakes that the church has made in the past, not just in letting this abuse take place but also in failing to report it. and also, interestingly, he calls direct throw those who did abuse to acknowledge their crimes and to stand up before properly constituted tribunals to face justice for what they have done and one thing that victims in ireland is calling for is resignations and there is no call for resignations in this letter. >> one question for you. did he talk at all about the
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victims? did he mention about meeting with them or talking to victims of this? >> reporter: yes, he did say that he's met victims in the past. of course, he met victims in the united states in 2008 and he did say he would be willing to meet with victims again. that is something that the pope understands is a very real part of his job now to try and control and resolve the child abuse problem. in the united states, what he did was implement a zero tolerance policy, a one strike and you're out policy against abusive priests and that model is what we can assume the model he's talking about this in letter currently being implemented in ireland but, certainly, meeting with the victims of aus into something that the pope has done before and says in this letter he will do again. >> all right. diana in rome, thank you very much. well, a lot of people trying to do it right now. kind of tricky. how do you dig out of your debt in a down economy? coming up, our financial analyst
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so we've heard of the stories of people 10 or $20,000 in debt and then go on the tight budget and pay everything off in a year or less. but how realistic is it to pay off debt in a bad debt in a bad, bad economy? financial analyst clyde anderson is here this morning. tell us a little bit about, you know, how people are supposed to be debt free when, you know, this horrible economy exists and, i mean, people are using their credit cards it seems like using it more and more. you don't have the cash. >> you see people using more credit cards. the key is to be responsible. tough take ownership of the debt and you have to get rid of it. it's a way of life so you have to make that change. it is necessary. >> you have tips for us, right? >> yeah. several tips for you. seeing creative things as far as what people have been doing and vishtd yully spending. for example, it's actually thinking in your mind and those things you want but then waiting 30 day before you purchase them. at the end of 30 days,
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re-evaluate it and see if it's something you want or need. >> is that realistic? do people hold off a full 30 days? mark it on a calendar? >> you have to have a self discipline and especially with debt. that's the problem. most people don't have that and missing that point and end up deep in debt. >> we laugh about it but it's not funny at all. >> another one is make a money vow. i'm making a promise to myself and saying i'm going to account for every penny i spend. track it. used to track it in the checkbook. track the spending habitings that you have, the debt -- swiping the card. swipe it but record, account for it so you know what you're spending. >> what about not using your credit card? is that just too exsfleem. >> no. that's something a lot of people should do. not everybody's ready to go cold turkey. ease in there. if you can stop using it, stop using it. if you have that problem and get out of control and can't stop
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swiping, put it away. >> i like that. that i understand. >> 12-step program. a 12-step program is one. having a 12-step program, first step is admitting that you have a problem and then really start hitting the debt and knocking it off. >> we have to put this online to reference that. clyde anderson, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> a 12-step program, huh, clyde? you know what? those were -- you delivered. not that you usually don't but those are easy ways, simple stuff to do. wait 30 days. >> put it in the freezer. i like that. >> very good stuff. thanks, clyde. >> all right. thank you. also, a big day for health care on capitol hill. wonder if they could use some of clyde's tips. maybe wait 30 days before spending our money. maybe a money vow. that ain't happening. it is down to the wire. president obama leading the charge. he is going to be up on capitol hill today. we'll follow the developments live from d.c. stay with us.
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