for those suspicious of reform -- and there are a lot of wonderful folks out there that through all the noise got concerned. i repeat, don't take our word for it. go to our website, white house.gov, go to the websites of some of the major news outlets out there, find out how reform will affect you. i'm confident you will like what you see. a complex approach that maintains the private insurance system but makes it work for everybody. makes it work not just for the insurance companies, but makes it work for you. that's what health care reform is all about. now as long a road as this has been, we all know that our journey is far from over. there's still work to do to rebuild this economy. there's work to do to spur on hiring. there's work to do to improve our schools and make sure every

child has a decent education. more work to do to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. there's more work to do to increase security to a middle class that's been struggling for a decade. this does not erase the channels that we face as a nation. those challenges have been allowed to linger for years, even decades. and we're not going to solve them all overnight. but as we tackle all of these challenges we face, as we continue on this journey, we can take our next steps with new confidence, with a new wind at our backs. because we know it's still possible to do big things in america. because we know it's still possible to rise above the skepticism, to rise above the cynicism, to rise above the fear. because we know it's still possible to renew our duty to one another and to future generations. yes, it's been a difficult two years.

there will be difficult days ahead. but let us all remember there will be a lesson of this day and a lesson of history that we as a people could not shrink from a challenge, we overcome it. we don't shrink from our responsibilities, we embrace it. we don't fear the future, we shape the future. that's what we do, that's who we are. that makes us the united states of america. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. thank you. >> president obama looking straight in to the camera, addressing the people of the united states of america on a day when he made history by signing the health care bill into law, extending almost a rally here at the department of interior after having signed the health reform bill. let me tell you what's going on. a new hour and a new rundown for you. an hour ago, president obama signed the health care reform bill. but you know the saying, it's not over until it's over. the senate has work to do. and some senators appear to be in no hurry to get it done. get this, a lot of states didn't even wait for the presidential

ink to dry. they are already suing the federal government over health care overhaul. do they have a case? plus, do you travel much? the transportation safety administration says you can help them get more efficient. you just have to let them track your wait time and your walk time at the airport via your cell phone. is this an invasion of privacy or the best airport idea yet? how do you say no more censorship in mandarin. google turns off the filters in china. is this the dawn of internet freedom for the chinese people or will it put them more in the dark? the health care reform bill is now the law of the land. let at the the bait begin. nothing has gone according to schoolhouse rock and that applies to the presidential signing of the bill. it's known formally as the patient protection and affordable care act as you may have seen live here on cnn, president obama formally and happily enacted health care reforms narrowly passed by the house on sunday night. in keeping with tradition, he

used a lot of pens. he signs a letter, takes another pen, watch this, does it again. by our count, about 20 and he gave those pens out as souvenirs to the bill's most prominent supporters. this is common on large, important bills. now, minutes ago, the whole party moved to a larger room at the interior department where the president was speaking as we started this show. take a listen to this. >> i said this once or twice, but it bears repeating -- if you like your current insurance, you will keep your current insurance. no government takeover, nobody's changing what you've got if you're happy with it. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. in fact, more people will keep their doctors because your coverage will be more secure and more stable than it was before i signed this legislation. and now that this legislation is passed, you don't have to take my word for it. you'll be able to see it in your

own lives. one of the republican leaders said, this is going to be armageddon. well, you know, two months from now, six months from now, you can check it out, we'll look around, and we'll see. you don't have to take my word for it. >> ordinarily, that would be that. supporters and critics alike would move on with their lives, move on to other topics. that won't happen this time. right after the house passed the version of reform, it passed the companion bill that changes the first bill in a lot of important ways. let me tell you about this. most democrats would not have backed the bill otherwise. but now the senate has to pass those changes and make them in to law. i want to take a minute to break some of those down. now this is the so-called reconciliation measure making the two bills make sense. the measure tweaks the finds that americans who don't buy insurance are going to pay by

2016, it will be $695 or 2.5% of your income, whichever is greater. it raises fines on employers who don't offer insurance coverage. in 2014, that will amount to $2,000 per employee. gives seniors a one-time $250 rebate to medicare. these are people facing the medicare doughnut hole we talked to, talked about overtime, the doughnut hole will disappear. it gives it rebate and aims to close the doughnut hole sometime after 2020. the other thing the senate bill, the senate is it going to have to look at are changes that have the widely covered cornhusker kick back. covers all of the costs of expanding medicaid. the new bill boosts it for all states. on the revenue side, the -- the

changes delay the high cost plans. it will race the definition of high. it raises the payroll tax on high earners and an 3.8% tax cut to investment income. it affects the top 5% of earners but a significant increase in tax. some of the tax increase has nothing to do with medicare or medicaid. it has to do with investment income and rental income. the senate plans 20 hours of debate, which republicans plan to drag out or even derail to the maximum possible extent. but the senate floor is only one front in what has become a multifaceted campaign of opposition even after this bill is signed in to law. we're going to dig in to that opposition after the break.

. if the health care reform bill, one of them, anyway, is signed in to law. president obama plans to stump for it hard. he'll visit iowa on thursday to remind americans what reform means to them and when. here's why. a cnn poll taken last weekend shows 39% of americans like the democratic overhaul. 59% oppose it. you're going to hear a lot of people talking about that. we want to break that down for you for a second. of the people -- these are the health care bills before the house and senate, 39% of them polled before the final vote on sunday favor the bill. 43% of the people polled oppose it because they find it too liberal. 13% oppose it because it's not liberal enough. so the number you hear oppose it, the 59% of people opposing the bill, we have to make sure you understand it is a combination of both of these groups. about the people who are critics of the bill, they're hoping to somehow derail the

reconciliation measure that is now being debate in the senate. that isn't the only battleground against health care. take a look at this map. 36 of 50 states, these are all of the states that are in red, are taking up legislation is aimed at countering some of the federal reforms encompass in the bill on saturday night. three states have passed anti-reform bills already, the three we're looking at. there's more. 14 states' attorneys general are filing lawsuits, now filing a lawsuit claiming that health care reform is unconstitutional to require -- it is unconstitutional to require americans to buy health care. i've got the lawsuit in my hand right now. it is filed by the attorneys general of florida, south carolina, nebraska, texas, utah, louisiana, alabama, michigan, colorado, pennsylvania, washington, idaho, and south dakota. let me just read you one of the salient points in the lawsuit, number two -- the act represents

an unprecedented encroachment on the liberty of individuals living in the plaintiffs' respective states by mandating that all citizens and legal residents of the united states have qualifying health care coverage or have a tax penalty. there's the salient part -- the constitution nowhere authorizes the united states to mandate either directly or under threat of penalty that all citizens and legal residents have qualified health care coverage. by imposing a mandate, the act exceeds the power of the united states under article i of the constitution and violates the 10th amendment of the constitution. the 10th amendment fight against health care saying the constitution does not allow the federal government to impose either mandatory health care or a tax or a penalty if they don't get it. joining me to talk about the legal fight, state's rights and the constitution is rene landers, a health and administrative law professor at suffolk university. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me.

>> does this make sense? is there a legal basis to this fight? oh. >> i think these claims are the claims that one would think of to bring -- to challenge the health care reform statute. but if the courts -- if the federal courts follow existing precedence of the united states supreme court, i don't think that the claims will be successful. >> at the heart of it, they're trying to make it -- state the case very simply. that is this is not a right that was given to the federal government under the constitution and if the federal government is not given explicitly some right under the constitution, they don't have the right to take it. does that argument make sense? >> no, it doesn't. under the court's existing precedence, congress has expa e expansive power under the commerce clause, article i claim to regulate interstate commerce. there have been court decisions to define the provision of health care services and the provision of insurance -- the sell and distribution of

insurance products as commerce under the federal regulatory activity. so the court has never demanded that the constitution have a detailed list authorizing congress to engage in certain activities. the commerce power is very broad. the constitution gives congress the power to tax and spend on behalf of the general welfare of its citizens. the court has been liberal -- at least as liberal in interpreting the tax and spending power. so, for example, congress can condition the states receiving federal funds on taking some steps to conform with federal law and is also could, you know, preempt state regulation if states don't regulate insurance products, for example, in a certain way. >> part of the problem is there's been such uncertainty about what changes to health care are going to mean for

businesses and individuals an things like this to provide greater uncertainty. stay right there. back after a break to talk a little bit more about how this lawsuit might progress and how it may have an impact on the ability to put this health care reform in to place. stay with us. you're watching cnn and our extensive coverage of health care reform. pppppppppppppppppp

okay, as i told you, 13 states have filed a lawsuit. another state is expected to file separately. but 13 states have filed a

lawsuit against the united states government, again, specifically, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, treasury secretary timothy geithner and linda solis in their official capacity as secretaries. they do not want the im impositions. the government doesn't have the right to mandate all citizens to have health care or pay a tax as a penalty. rene landers is a professor of health and add minute straltive law. rene, i don't know if you've been around for large scale legislation like this -- is this to be expected? is it routine? is it the kind of thing that the state is doing to protect certain of their rights? and how does it get resolved? >> well, i think that you can see when any kind of massive federal statute is enacted there will be legal challenges to it. you know, we've seen this before in other contexts.

so i don't think it's at all unusual. i think probably the -- the number of states that, you know, sort of immediately challenge the statute, even before many of the provisions have gone into effect is perhaps a little bit unusual. but, again, there's been a tremendous leadout to the enactment of this statute. so it can be ready. >> there are two approaches. 13 states that have filed this case plus virginia. 14 states filing lawsuits about the legality of it. i can see why a states' attorney general would like to get clarity from the court on that. there are other states that are actually enacting legislation so that some of the provisions of the health care reform bill will not be effective in their states. one seems highly political. this one seems like something that maybe is procedural that they're doing to ensure that the government has the right to do this in their states? >> i think that the -- the two things that are sort of -- sort of two sides to the same coin. >> okay. >> i think the state legislation -- i just don't see how it could possibly have any

effect because the supremacy clause gives a pre -- gives preemptive authority to federal statutes that conflict with state statutes. so on those -- i think those statutes really will have no force. and in order to make them effective, there would have to be litigation over which law the federal law or the state law would control in this particular situation. i think the federal law would obviously control. >> let's take this back a long way to states rights legislation. when you go to -- when you go to some of the tea party rallies or anti-health care reform rallies, you can see the rattlesnake and the don't tread on me. is there an argument to be made about state's rights quite simply? in that this is just not an area that the federal government is allowed to make laws? >> i think it's a weak argument. i wouldn't say there's no argument there. there's sort of two aspects of the argument. one is sort of interfering in the areas that have tradition traditionally been subject to state regulation. we talked about the way the

courts have been given expansion sbrerp interpretation and the taxing and spending power to make decisions for the general welfare. and the second one is the court referred to it as the anti-commandeering principiplpr that the federal law cannot command state governments to do things to give full effect to federal policy. and here, i just don't see that happening here because the federal -- the requirements on state governments are conditioned on federal spending and, second, the courts have been -- have been clear in cases and recent cases that state governments as employers can be required to follow the same federal laws as employment laws that other employers have to follow. of course, what i'm saying depends on the supreme court and the federal courts adhering to these existing precedence. >> so you're saying this is not going to be a dull discussion.

one way or the other, this will be interesting for legal minds and for the rest of us. thank you for coming to talk to us. it will get interesting. rene landers is a professor of health and administrative law in suffolk university in boston. thank you for being here, professor. >> thank you very much. some of the stop stories here on cnn -- sales of existing homes fell slightly in february. that was a third straight month of drops. the national association of realtors said home resales dropped .6% last month. that is less than what is expected. it's still assigned that the housing market in this country remains fragile. in new jersey, two men are charged with killing five teenage boys more than 30 years ago in newark. the prosecutors say the suspects locked the victims in a house and burned it to the ground. investigators got a tip 18 months ago that led to the arrests. and in washington, with a stroke of a pen, actually a bunch of pens, president obama signed the landmark health care reform bill in to law today. among other things, the measure

extends coverage to 32 million uninsured americans and bans insurance companies from denying coverage to people with pre-existing medical problems. when it comes to health care, we've been tossing around words like sweeping overhaul and historic reform. but for a moment, we want to think smaller, actually, substantially smaller. what does health care reform mean for someone just like you. elizabeth cohen is standing by. our senior medical correspondent. she's got some answers, when we come back from this break, she's going to tell us what it means for you. ls compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day. how do we know how big our hospitals need to be?, the census helps us know exactly what we need, so everyone can get their fair share of funding. we can't move forward until you mail it back. 2010 census.

going to cover the whole range of health care reform. one of our thoughts is when i talk to elizabeth cohen, our senior medical correspondent. you dedicated yourself in the last few weeks to explaining it in ways that relates to everyday people. i'm not entirely sure what health care reform -- what impact it will have on my costs, my insurance. you have avatars. some people. >> some made up people. to try to illustrate what it means to them. >> i thought these were the middle income martinis. they're the middle income martins. >> ali put an i in there. they're the middle income martins. they earn $88,000 a year. they get insurance on their own.

they don't get it through their employers. so what they're wondering is, what's going to happen to their premiums? are they going to go up or down? and what i'm here to tell you is that according to the congressional budget office, their premiums will likely to go up. they're too wealthy to qualify for the subsidies that you and i have talked a lot about. i can't tell you if the premiums are going to go up a lot or a little, but the premiums are going to go up. >> the logic is they don't get subsidies and health care costs are going up, and as a result the premiums are going up. the only way you're going to see a reduction is if you're in the world of getting subsidies. >> subsidies, right, exactly, exactly. people who make less than $88,000 do get subsidies. that's a group of people. but the martinis, they're not going to -- >> that's why they need their marti martinis. their premiums are going up. >> show me a guy who looks like me with hair. bad back bob. if you took the hair off of this guy, it's a dead ringer for me.

>> he looks like you. bob has a bad back. he's not been able to get insurance. his employer doesn't offer it and because of his back insurers don't need to get near him. he's expensive. back surgery costs a lot of money. >> he's not the best friend of the insurance company. so what's going to happen immediately like within the next three months is he's going to get to join a high-risk pool, which is sort of a fancy way of saying a group of people who get together and buy insurance. >> people in southern states might know there's place where you have wind pools for hurricanes, you can't get normal insurance but you get in pools because there's a lot of you and that's how you get the coverage. >> there are a lot of bad back bobs out there. they haven't pooled together before. this is a first. what's going to happen eventually by 2014 is that private insurance companies, the blue crosses, the aetnas, all of those people, they're not going to be able to say no to him. they don't like him, they're going to be forced to say yes to him. >> lots of people are coming in to the process. lots of bad back bobs but lots

of people are mandated to get coverage who are healthy. that should help the insurance companies and that should, if you get your premiums crossed, bring premiums down for people later on. >> that's the theory. you have to hope that the economic theories out there come true. >> now bad back bob -- we didn't talk about his income, right? we don't know where he falls in to this. his issue is he has a bad back. >> he can be a millionaire and he cannot get insurance right now because -- >> will he's got a pre-existing condition. thanks for doing this. you're going to be doing a lot of this to figure out what this means to lots of people. go to my facebook page, if there are specific things you want to know, i pass it on to elizabeth. we'll tell you about it. another topic that you may know about and may have more details, what is going on in mexico? why does it appear that the violence in mexico has spiked again. very important people who are putting their mind to it in mexico today? and we'll tell you what they're

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fighting a war next door. with each week, more drug-related deaths are reported in mexico. more than 500 people have been killed in juarez this year alone, that includes an american consulate worker and her husband who were gunned down two weeks ago. at least 18,000 people have been killed in drug-related murders since mexican president felipe cauldron launched an offensive against drug traffickers in december of 2006. now why should you care? because some of the same drug cartels responsible for the murders in mexico are operating in the united states. take a look at how wide spread these cartels are. i hope you can get -- mark, are we able to see that clearly on tv? seems a little lacking in contrast here. from alaska to wisconsin, you can see the red dots. they're affiliates. these people have infiltrated the united states. you can see along the borders,

there are a lot of them. but you can see they've penetrated far north in to the northeast and southeast. cities as far north as everett, washington, helena, montana, st. cloud, minnesota, greenville, new hampshire. the number of the drug cartels are growing. why? why do they ever grow? about supply and demand. as demand for illegal drugs grows in the united states, more money can be made. more competition between cartels and more people get killed. now the goal is to break this deadly chain by combatting drug trafficking and killings in mexico. that's the idea behind a major meeting in mexico city today. cnn's kate baldwin joins us in washington with more on that. kate, there are surprisingly big players at this meeting in mexico. what are they trying to get done? >> they're big even when they travel by themselves and they're traveling as a group down there, ali. this is a high-profile team traveling to mexico today to meet with their counterparts as well as the mexican president felipe calderon all trying to tackle the escalating drug

violence problem you mentioned near the u.s.-mexico border. this is the group we're talking about here. this is being led by secretary of state hillary clinton, secretary of defense robert gates as well as homeland security janet napolitano. that's not all. we're talking about other top u.s. officials, the director of national intelligence, dennis blair, the president's assistant on counterterrorism and homeland security issues, john brennan and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen. secretary napolitano briefed reporters on the way down today and she said it's a strong delegation to the u.s. commitment to work with mexico to enhance anti-drug operations. in her words, she said, quote, this is a real deal, she says. we want to be working together, she says. in part today, the secretary of state will be leading a discussion on the ongoing efforts as well as the evolution, really, of the work by u.s. and mexican officials to break the power of drug trafficking organizations.

the goal is really to lay out the shared security concerns and what the two governments can do about it. and that's a very big question to tackle. ahead of today's trip, the state department said the focus of the meetings was cooperation and coordination with the heavy emphasis on co-responsibility that the two-countries share in the fight against drug-related violence. you talked about it, ali, it's worth talking about. the recent killings in this month of the u.s. consulate in mexico and her husband underscore the need for some problem solving in this situation. >> they'll notice a real uptick about the news of the killings and the degree of violence. it's puzzling to some people because it seems that lawlessness has sort of overtaken some of the towns, particularly on the border. >> what you will hear from u.s. officials and you can hear from mexican officials is they're really taking this on, and they have been, over the past few years. they have a big initiative that's really pumping a lot of u.s. money in to helping with

equipment and support and training for mexican officials to help battle this. you can see the drug cartels, they have a lot of money as well and that's where the big clash is. >> good to see you kate, tvery much. kate baldwin at our security desk in washington. when we come back, gary tukman is going to join us. he spent a weekend in juarez. we're trying to get a feeling of what it's like to be on the ground there. is it a place under siege? is this story overblown? gary is going to tell us. he know what it looks like. we'll talk to him after this we'll talk to him after this break. fashion deficient.

. >> well, listen, as we've been talking about drug-related deaths are all too common in juarez as the city continues to be ground zero in the war against drug trafficking. gary tuchman spent the weekend there. gary joins us from new york. everybody who watches cnn knows you go in to the toughest situation, whether it's weather or crime. i'm curious from your perspective what it was like to be in juarez. i'm curious as to whether when you see these pictures on tv about police and houses cordoned off and ambulances, does it feel like a place under siege? >> the answer, ali, yes, it feels like a place under siege. we do stories about cities, state, counts, that have negative news and we have the mayors and the governors, why did you do that? that's not true. nobody says that atwah rez. they know things are very bad. as a matter of fact, in the first two months in this year of

2010, there have been more murders in juarez, mexico than there were all last year in new york city and new york city is six times it population of juarez. they're on the rate of getting 2700 murders in a city which only had 1.3 million people. and it's all because of the battle between two rival cartels, the juarez cartel, the cineloa cartel and they don't mind making it hell on earth for the civilians who live there. i'm wondering i'm sure if people live their lives. the answer is yes, the walmart is crowded. movie theaters are crowded. but you see the parks and the playgrounds and the skate board parks, there are few people out there, few children are out. parents say, i want my life to live a normal life, but we were afraid. within three hours of a beautiful saturday afternoon, we were at three scenes of what appeared to be drug-related executions. people lying on the streets, people with bullet holes in their heads. we went to a mass grave that was in the desert a half an hour

outside of juarez where five bodies were found, one without a head, one with handcuffs attached to the arm. it's a gruesome, sad situation. >> what's the effect? and we always think about this when we talk about a place where there's a lot of drug money, the cartels with lots of money. what's the effect of that money on trying to do legitimate business or get a -- you know, get legitimate courses of work in juarez? is everybody influenced? is there money that flows to police and judges and people trying to do business? >> well, you bring up a really important point. that is most people believe that most of the police officers before -- not today, but before were corrupt and were working with drug cartel members. they got paid very little money. the temptation was great. and the feeling is among people who run the city today is that the drug cartels couldn't have had the success they did without police working with them. so the mayor of juarez today is a guy by the name of jose reyes

feliz. he got rid of most of the police officers, the corrupt one. they hired the new police officers, they raised their salaries to $10,000 u.s. a year which is a lot of money for mexico. he believes he's on the right track. but he made serious enemies with the drug cartels. two weeks ago, the drug cartels sent him a note. they sent a pig's severed head with a note that says, if you don't leave the job, you only have two weeks to live. those two weeks end tomorrow. now, we spent the day on saturday with the mayor just seeing what he goes through. i want you to listen to what the mayor had to say to me about the fears he faces. >> do you look over your shoulder while you're driving? you know you're a target. >> yeah, i don't. i can't worry about that. i need to do a lot of work -- there's a lot of work that needs to be done in juarez. and i'm doing all of that work that i need to do. >> so you ignore what possibly could happen to you while you're driving around the city. >> yes, i have a good staff that

keeps my security. they're very well trained. they're very loyal. and -- >> and you trust all of them? >> i trust all of them. >> wow. >> i personally felt, ali, while driving with him it was one of the least safe places to be. in ciudad juarez. i should say the driver, not even hidden, the driver had an automatic rifle with us. and the vehicle we were in was an armored vehicle. >> this expires tomorrow. the warning two weeks is tomorrow? >> he got the note two weeks ago wednesday. he's gotten other threats before. he points it out. it makes him less scared. he's gotten other threats since he's been in office. his term is up in october under mexican law, you can only have one term as mayor of a mexican city. he'll step down and go back to his private life as an attorney. he says he ain't stepping down before october. >> this is a remarkable story for everybody. gary, you're the kind of guy that can be put on a story

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today from severe weather center to weather center with snow. it's not severe. >> it doesn't have the ring. >> i like winter. i spent a lot of times in the northern parts. i like it. there's a lot of snow this year. >> lake-effect from where you're from. not as much as i had. up the i-80, cheyenne and denver. that's where it will be today. 16 inches of snow not out of the question. as you get the air -- the air is going to come in this low-pressure center like this. this is a lower elevation, let's say 4,000 feet over here. >> right, yeah. >> we know the mile high city is a mile high. so over 5,000 feet. if the air goes up the hill, it wants to take all of the moisture and wring it out. the air gets colder. that's what we have today. >> the ski resorts are getting snow too. >> loving it. >> loveland skis to the first of august. then they close and reopen the 30th of august. it's the longest ski season ever. and the basin as well.

and here we go, ski season still going. a lot of snow for the rest of the day today. >> normally your weather patterns are larger and broader. what is that when it goes around and around. >> it's called a short wave in the long wave pattern. >> man. >> i have 30 seconds to explain -- >> that's the long way pattern. >> two-year weather course. here's the long way. inside this other wave, it's a low that's rotating through the trough. as it rotates, gulf of mexico moisture is pulled up in to that. you can make severe weather where this part of the jet stream is diversed. >> you can see this kind of weather a lot this year. >> can occur this year. >> lots of planes. >> 5,400 planes in the sky. >> a little lower. usually about 6,000. the dark ones are landing or taking off. >> that's correct. >> the planes are on schedule for how many fly on any given day and today's not a big day. we don't have 6,000. not that they're delayed. they just don't fly as many

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me, and he's got something interesting. it's tax time. >> yes. >> i have not gotten my taxes done yet. >> you're going to love this. >> this is good. >> this is actually good information, because i might get more money. tell me about it. >> the stimulus desk is telling you how the government is spending your money. this time we're trying to get some money back. whitehouse.g whitehouse.gov, but you can go to whitehouse.gov they have a tax-saving tool, and, ali, this is set up as easy as can be. simply get started and it will go through and ask you a series of questions. single, those were the days, weren't they? we'll pick single for the sake of this segment. how much money do you make? let's say you make less than $45,000, it pops up and explains to you right there, hey, because of what you entered, it shows if you are working you get $400 back. if you are a married couple, you get $800 back. the tax credit that was handed out. and you simply go through step by step. you remember there was some relief for those -- >> yep. >> -- if your child was in

college. you continue to go through. have you purchased a home recently. $8,000 credit. this is when people are going to start to get it back. >> this is great. >> this is absolutely great. >> if you are getting your taxes prepared by someone else, work through this and go to your tax preparer, it said i might get a college credit or a new home buyer's credit or something else. >> you should do it before you go. >> and talk to your tax guy. >> and talk to your tax guy. make sure you are doing it legally, of course. >> you might be outside of the income ranges allowed for some of these things. >> but it gives you a good way to go about and it lays it out easily for you and make sure you go back and make sure you are not missing money. tax refunds are up $266 this year because of that stimulus act. they came out this week and said that, the white house. so, obviously they're saying people are getting more money and they are pointing to that. >> josh levs has been doing this for six, seven, eight weeks and he never gives me good news like this, it's grumpy this and spending that. and you some in the first day

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google has made a big play to sir kim vent the great fire wall of china. the internet giant say it won't play by china's self-censorship rules anymore. google pulled the plug on googlecn site and redirected chinese searches to the unkrens sored site. it's leaving part of its research and development and sales department intact, but the rinle effect of yanking the search engine could be far-reaching from the business world to the diplomatic world. we'll break it down for you. let's look at what went down. for a few hours overnight if you googled tiananmen square or tiananmen from china, if you're in china, you got results like these. the same pictures that you'd get if you searched from the u.s. row after row of violent pictures from 1989's bloody massacre. that is a stark difference from the results you got just

yesterday from china's version. a couple of pictures, this is the same search, you put tiananmen in and you get pict e pictures of beauty and tourism shots and a few pictures of tanks and there was a free flow of information, but it took china less than 24 hours to start krens scensoring the sear. but google knew what it was signing up for when it moved into china four years ago, so why now is it taking this stand against not censoring itself? human rights advocates say google's move will bring more global attention to china's censorship situation. still, the jobs of some 700 people that worked at the search engine are on the line. what about the business partners? american computer businesses like dell and lenovo were counts on it as part of a push into the chinese market.

what this means in terms of dollars and jobs remains to be seen. we're keeping a close eye on it. here's the rundown for this hour. do you know bad-back bob or medicare marlene or the middle income martinis as i dubbed them? you should, they are your friends or your friends or family. they could be me, i have a bad back. and they all have health care concerns and you'll meet them and how health care is affecting you. there soon could be more bad-back bobs in the health care system, tens of millions of them. where will they go to get health care and is this a golden opportunity for job creation? also, ever dreamed of heading into space? you could get your chance, and you might be less expensive than you think. the "vss enterprise" boldly going where no commercial spacecraft has gone before. president obama's remarks just after signing into law the historic health care reform, a short while ago, you saw it on cnn. a hard-fought battle going back

decades, not officially over, but the president calls it the begins of a new season in america. those are his words. who is the cute little guy wearing the vest? the overhaul guarantees 32 million uninsured americans and in numerous ways will touch the lives of many people. mr. obama paid tribute to members of his administration, democrats on the hill, but especially you, the american people. listen in -- >> it's easy to succumb to the sense of cynicism about what's possible in this country. but today we are affirming that essential truth. a truth every generation is called to re-cover for discover. we are not a nation that scales back its aspirations. we are not a nation that falls prey to doubt or mistrust. we don't fall prey to fear. we are not a nation that does what's easy. it's not who we are. that's not how we got here.

we are a nation that faces its challenges and accepts its responsibilities. we are a nation that does what is hard, what is necessary, what is right. here in this country, we shape our own destiny. that is what we do. that is who we are. that is what makes us the united states of america. okay. we're back with elizabeth cohen, our senior medical correspondent, who has been following this very carefully. specifically with these cute little avatars that she has that tell you how health care reform affects you. we saw bad-back bob and the middle income martinis in the last hour. you have different ones for you. where did they go? >> i don't know where they went. they should be up here. >> your little avatars. >> okay. so, what we're going to do instead, i'm just going to tell you. >> okay. there's -- who is that? the young yvette? >> young yvette. she was hiding. >> back there, too. >> so, they were hiding. thank you. i appreciate that. young yvette you can see just

graduated from college. in most states that means she would get knocked off mom and dad's insurance. now, yvette doesn't have a job yet. she's hoping to, i don't know, travel the world or go to graduate school or one of the silly things that people do in their 20s. she is now under health care reform, she will be covered by her parents' insurance until the age of 26. >> wow. >> as long as she's a dependent. it's a huge difference. >> this assumes that the parts ha parents have coverage. >> sure. this is a huge deal. a lot of people looking at health care reform, saying there is nothing in it for me, i'm already insured. here's what is in it for you if you have a kid coming of age. >> what's the general advantage? generally we think of people in their early 20s not being big consumers of health care. what's the big advantage of people otherwise uninsured getting insured? does that mean they get involved in preventive health care and

start good habits? >> yes, heaven forbid yvette gets breast cancer, and if mom and dad's insurance covers her. bad things happen to young people and it can be very expensive. >> as we know, it's one of the major causes of personal bankruptcy, health issues if you are not insured. who the is behind young yvette? are we going to turn it on? >> behind yvette we have mom and pop. >> this is a big, big deal. self-employed mom and pop. >> it is a big deal. the reason it's a big deal. they are self-employed. they don't have any insurance and now they are wondering what do i do? >> yep. >> and so what's going to happen here is they now are going to get huge subsidies to help them buy insurance. and this will take, you know, a couple of years to kick in. >> right. >> but they're going to get subsidies so that they will only be spending about $100 a year to get insurance. >> wow. >> let's say they make $30,000 a year, i'm sort of making that up. but if they're making $30,000 a year in today's dollars, they'd be spending about $100 for an

insurance policy that would ordinarily cost them, you know, like, $9,000. >> right. >> so, that's a lot of health care help. >> like you said earlier, if self-employed mom and pop happen to be doing very, very well, $100,000 a year, maybe more than $100,000 between the two of them. >> $80,000 the subsidies drop off. once you hit that mark, you are not getting the subsidies. they are sad, they are only getting $30,000, they just opened their shop. >> do we have more here or am i going to come back? >> you're going to come back. they've done well. mom and pop, young yvette. we'll show you people that maybe won't do so well with health reform. >> the avatars might represent yourself. we'll look at some people who may not be thrilled at this landmark, historic, whatever legislation you want to call it, that was signed into law today. ( music playing )

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doesn't look a thing like you. >> she's got hair. >> yes, a full head of hair. >> isabel. >> look at how healthy she is. look at the muscles. isabel is so invincible that she doesn't need health care, why should i spend money on health care when i can go to hawaii? under health care reform she is going to get a $95 fine for not having health insurance. >> right. >> now, that doesn't sound big. that's going to go up every year. if she were the head of a family of four, it would get into the thousands of dollars. >> she has to make a choice of either buying health insurance or pay the fine or it's a percentage of her income. >> exactly. this is sort of as a flat fee. some folks like isabel is saying the government is telling me what to do, i should be able to do what i want. >> does she have the ability to buy a bare bones coverage because she doesn't want the health care coverage, catastrophic that kicks in

something bad happens? >> she can go on the exchange and get the cheapest, bare bones policy. she doesn't have to get the platinum level, but she can get the basic level. >> invincible isabel isn't loving it at the moment. >> exactly. here's another person who may or may not be so happy. this one is more complicated. this is medicare mr. lean and she's on medicare and she's smart because medicare spending on her personally has gone up 4% a year. >> okay. >> she likes that, you know, it's a steady increase paying her doctors and all that stuff. do you know what, with health care reform not going to happen. instead it will go up 2% a year or perhaps even less. that's according to the cbo. the congressional budget office. and some people say marlene's going to feel that. she's going to feel the difference in her care -- >> she'll get some kind of cut somewhere. there will be something she won't get. >> yes, the doctors won't want to see her because medicare is not paying enough and she won't get the mris she needs, and others say she won't feel it, it's waste that shouldn't have

been anyhow. >> as i landed in atlanta on sunday, the vote just happened, a guy was watching me cnn, and i'm the doctor and i'm the first one you'll meet that won't take medicare patients anymore. >> i hear doctors threaten that sometimes, but i tell you, if you don't take medicare, you're saying no to a huge chunk of patients. who get sick in this country, older people, and they all use medicare. i've heard doctors say that, i don't know if you have the guy's scarred card or not, get back to him in a year. >> if he's watching, come and talk to us. >> ali. -- >>@cnn.com. >> this is fantastic, you've given a whole lot of people and how they are affected differently. this is not one of the things where everybody benefits or everybody suffers under it. it really does depend on who you are. listen, we often talk about in nice weather teachers taking kids outside to learn about nature. what about an interesting shift where teachers keep kids inside specifically to learn about nature? we'll talk about that when we come back.

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all right. students in classroom in connecticut don't just learn about energy efficiency, they actually see at work. their building is solar powered and it is energy neutral. here is anderson cooper. >> reporter: it may look like a

typical high school classroom, but it's not. everything's powered by solar energy. in fact, the whole building is solar powered. >> this is a science and global studies building. it's three classrooms. it's about 4,000 square feet. >> reporter: the watkinson school built in 1881 was looking for another building that could go up quickly but could also inspire their students. that's where project frog stepped in. frog supplied the license for the design of the building but local companies produced the parts and construction workers simply snapped them together. it only took seven months to complete. the building can be modified to be larger or smaller. it's the first building to be energy neutral in connecticut. >> this building over the course of the year will consume no more energy than it's able to produce within its footprint. >> reporter: the key to the energy efficiency is the solar panels located on the top of the building. >> we orient the building properly.

we use proper insulation. we use natural sunlight to bounce off of surfaces. the sun's come up a little bit here. as you can see our lights are off and anywhere in this classroom, a student can learn. >> reporter: the temperature of the building is also uniquely energy efficient. >> what we have here is the heat pumps. we're using the energy and the power in the earth that already exists to help regulate the temperatures and controls of this building. >> reporter: no impact on the energy grid, but a major impression on the students. >> when we're here, science is much easier to learn, because, say, we're study abouting solar energy, in a normal building, it's harder to study solar energy, like, without a solar panel. >> at the end of the year the students will be working on a sustain ability for haiti project where they're going to be evaluating and finding organizations and initiatives to bring income, social, and environmental sustainability to haiti. >> reporter: reducing energy consumption "one simple thing" one classroom at a time.

anderson cooper, cnn, hartford. let me take a look at the top stories we're looking on cnn. a celebration, a call to action, all in name of the health care. president obama signed the health care overhaul and that allows the senate to start the debate on the companion measure. first comes 20 hours of argument. toyota may have known as far back as 2002 that acceleration surges may be due to electronic problems and not floor mats or pedals, as the company insists. cnn has obtained an internal company document from outside lawyers who are now planning a nationwide class action lawsuit. toyota calls the assertions baseless. and from the national association of realtors, a third straight drop in sales of existing homes. the group says u.s. home resales fell 0.6 of 1% last month, less than expected, but a sure sign that the u.s. housing sign

all right, when we come bark, i'll talk about snow on earth and whatever we want in space, chad is following this. there's a bit too much snow on earth right now, but there could be a pioneering mission to space in the near future. we'll talk about both of those things.

i'm back here at the severe weather center with chad myers, our, you know, our big meteorologist, our snow castor and you got snow to cast. >> i do. 16 inches possible in denver and limon and all down to colorado springs, all part of a storm that will take moisture from here, the gulf of mexico area and throw it up into the mountain areas.

if you think of kansas at 3,000, 4,000 feet and you know denver is a mile high at 5,000 feet, you go up and it gets colder and the snow piles up. not unusual for this time of year, the heaviest, backbreaking snow comes in the late fall because you can tap the gulf of mexico moisture. you can get the moisture oft of the gulf of mexico and into the snow. in the wintertime you don't get the connection, it's all from the north, from the north, from the north, so the air isn't basically as muggy. can we go "off the radar"? >> i would love to. >> we "off the radar" with chad, because he tells us things we don't know. this is about space. >> this is about you trying to talk cnn in to spending $200,000 to put you into space. >> let's do it. the pitch begin rights now. bosses, watch this. >> the "vss enterprise" girvirg galactic. for a couple more dollars, i'm

sure you can buy the name on the side. you've heard about virgin records and virgin planes. there's a fuselage on the left and there's a rocket-propelled launcher in the middle. the one in the middle will take people in 2011 into space. >> that's next year! >> it is. >> wow. >> for $200,000, 80,000 people are on the waiting list. >> how many people get onto this thing? >> six. >> wow. and will they have frequent flights? >> once a week. but what happened today and yesterday, this was out in california. >> yeah. >> they took the plane off. they just flew around for 2 1/2 hours and they landed it. it was a success because it was stable. they never launched the middle rocket. >> right. >> they never sent it off into space. >> right. >> but that's the plan. >> the middle one goes into space? >> we can see -- there's a little -- can we put this on the wall and i can circle some things. there's a jet not running. you see the two trails coming out, the trails coming out, in

the middle there would be the rocket-propelled thing -- >> right. >> -- that would come out and send the thing -- >> there you go. >> there's the fuselage, the back of that has a rocket in it. here it is, it same down in the mojave desert, the fuselage will be attached. and that part will leave. >> if i'm one of the six people on the flight, it would take off, the whole operation would take off and at some point that breaks away. >> the jet. that big hole is the jet that sends you off. >> that goes away and any sense of how long we'll spend in space? >> we don't know that yet. >> can we work on that? >> probably ten minutes for $200,000. i don't know. it's going to land slowly and it will be a glider basically as it goes in. so it won't be a ten-minute flight but you may feel weightlessness for only that long. >> very interesting. "off the radar" with chad where he takes us places where no man has gone before. are you sick and tired of being sick and tired? how about being sick and tired

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okay. the democratic health care overhaul, now the law of the land, but still unfinished business. officially it's the patient protection and affordable care act. president obama used 20 pens to sign it. check this out. he signs a little bit. puts the pen down, takes another pen. signs a little bit, puts the pen

down. each "b," "a," "r," "a" and he gives the pens to supporters. soon after this, they moved to the interior department for a bit of a rally and a celebration. listen to the president -- >> although it may be my signature that's affixed to the bottom of this bill, it was your work, your commitment, your unyielding hope that made this victory possible. when the special interests deployed an army of lobbyists, an onslaught of negative ads to preserve the status quo, you didn't give up. you hit the phones, and you took to the streets. you mobilized, and you organized. you turned up the pressure and you kept up the fight. when the pundits were obsessing over who was up and who was down, you never lost sight of what was right and what was wrong.

you knew this wasn't about the fortunes of a party. this was about the future of our country. okay. ordinarily that would be that. the bill is signed and goes into law, but that's not the case here. supporters and critics alike want to get on with their lives and move on to other battles, but not this time. late on sunday night, the house passed the same bill that the senate had passed on christmas eve. that's the bill that the president signed. but the house passed a companion bill that changes it is in some very important ways. that's the house side and this is the senate side and the senate has to pass the changes. i want to talk about the changes. the reconciliation measure, the changes, it tweaks the fines for not buying coverage. by 2016, elizabeth cohen talked about it a little bit, if you don't buy coverage, you'll be fined $695 or 2 1/2 percent of your income, whichever one is greater, by the way. it also raises fines by

employers that don't buy coverage, it will be up to $2,000 per employees. it gives seniors a onetime $250 for medicare to fill the doughnut hole in prescription coverage. as you recall, you are covered up to a certain amount and then there's a hole and you get covered $1,700 later, again, they are meaning to close the gap sometime after 2020. oh, my god, 2020, where now you get 250 bucks. it also kills the cornhusker kickback. you remember this? this was promised in nebraska in the senate bill. only nebraska that washington would cover all the costs of expanding medicaid. well, the new bill would boost medicaid help for all states. now, on the revenue side, you think of this all as expenditures, something has to pay for this, the tweaks that the senate will look in to that the house passed will delay a tax on high-cost plans. we are calling that the cadillac tax. and it raises the definition of what high cost is. it raises the medicare payroll

tax on high earners quite substantially, and it adds, this is important, we talked about this yesterday with an economist, it adds a 3.8% tax to high earners on investment income, having nothing to do with medicaid, it is rental income, dividend income and things like that. the president said he was going to do this, and this is the case, high-income earners and rich people are going to pay higher taxes to pay for some of the provisions in this health care bill. now, the senate plans to debate for 20 hours. and the republicans plan to make it as messy and complicated as possible. we'll stay on top of it for you. let's look at the possible economic benefits of health care reform. could the new act create jobs in some less-expected places? joining me now cnn analyst roland martin and dr. tom fogarty who is the president of concentric medical centers. he joins us from dallas. roland, let's start with you. thank you for being with us, both of you. let's start with you, rowland, we've seen a rise in walk-ins at

emergency facilities already. you talked about it at great length yesterday, thinking there could be a boon in those places as a result of this health care reform. >> absolutely. you know, i've been talking to folks, you know, trade organizations, trade interviews all morning about this. there are some 1,200 facilities in 32 states all across this country, and so what you're seeing is you're seeing these facilities located in strip malls, employing doctors, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and so in talking with the trade group, they say when massachusetts, when they signed into law universal health care, all of a sudden they saw a need for an expansion in individuals, same thing in pennsylvania. so, all of a sudden you're seeing community colleges trying to fill the need because we have a shortage of nurses in this country, so there's no doubt these folks are also competing not only with e.r. rooms but also doctors' offices and being able to provide cheaper care. >> sort of a middle space. >> for many of the basic needs

we need. including walgreens and cvs. >> yes. people that don't need emergency care or urgent care, maybe they don't need the high-end doctors' offices. dr. fogarty, this is the business you are in. is roland on to something here? >> in our company, i'm the chief medical officer for consenntra, we are a health care organization that has physicians in our clinics and we have 315 clinics in 40 different states and, you know, we are situated in a position to meet the needs. if you look at the needs out there, there's going to be a number of people that have not had insurance in the past, they're going to be looking for access, and we are a convenient, affordable access point for health care. >> now, tom, has anything changed as a result or will things change as a result of passage of this bill, or were you on sort of a growth track anyway? >> we were already on a growth track. we see the need for an

accessibility, a transparent pricing that we have on our visits that patients can come in, and, you know, if you look at where people get care now, primarily the uninsured get care from emergency rooms. >> yes. >> and emergency rooms are much more expensive. all right, stay with us guys. we'll come back and have a little more of a conversation with this with roland and dr. tom fogarty who is the chief medical officer of consentra medical services. i hope he appreciates that later in life.

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well, let's continue our conversation with cnn analyst roland martin and dr. tom fogarty who is the chief medical officer for concentra medical centers, we're talking about the new health care reform creating unexpected jobs. hey, roland, since i promoted you, i'll promote you. what is the name of your new book? >> it's called "the first black president, barack obama's road to the white house." it's my coverage of the historic journey of him obviously going from state senator to u.s. senator to the presidency. the book and dvd all packaged in one. >> all right, very good. roland, you've been sort of taking these very interesting, i mean it in the best way, peripheral views of health care, in other words, not just the big mainstream view that everybody is talk about. but let's get back to brass tacks here, we're talking about a number of people in america who do not have health care prior to this bill and are using emergency services, the emergency room, for what you might think of as, you know,

primary health care. at the same time, they don't need perhaps access to the fanciest of doctors, and you're talking about this middle road. >> right. >> that can be an employment opportunity for people, because we're going to need to staff the kinds of centers that dr. fogarty is involved in. >> right. look, i've used him. there have been times when i've been traveling. >> right. >> so, i can't see my normal doctor and i'm sitting here saying, man, i'm sick or there's something wrong. and so, you know, i have gone to the yellow pages and sought these facilities out, so it's very interesting because they are located in strip centers in different parts of various cities. a lot of them are 24-hour centers, and so if you're sick, it's 2:00 in the morning, you obviously can't call your doctor. you go there. so what i'm looking at, sure, we can fight and talk about lawsuits and stuff along those lines, but the question is what are going to beat economic benefits? when you have 32 million who are now going to be insured -- >> yeah. >> -- you have to service those people, so the question is how do you fill those roles? >> yeah. >> i certainly expect community

colleges who train most of our nurpss s to nurses to see expansion because you go where the jobs will be. >> there appear to be in many parts of the country shortages of nurses and every study i've read, it's a good profession to get in to, in some cases doctors complaining how much they'll earn under health care reform, the reality is being a doctor is a good profession. how do you train people to expand the centers that you run or roland is talking about if they are to meet a big need over the next decade? >> it is a challenge. one of the issues right now is the number of primary care physicians that are available, you know, with the -- the x panti expansion of the coverage out there. the statistics show we'll need approximately 15,000 new primary care physicians, and there's not that many medical students that are opting to go to primary care. primarily because of the reimbursement. a specialist gets reimbursed significantly more than a primary care doctor gets reimbursed, see there are some

issues of trying to fill from a physician's perspective. the staff support is a little bit of an easier issue to staff with availability. but i think we're seeing and we have seen, and i think we'll continue to see, a deficiency in the number of primary care. and, you know, part of the health care from my perspective is it really doesn't support the provision, which is really kind of the direction that if we want to improve the health of america, is to really focus on prevention. >> right. tom, great conversation. we're going to watch very carefully about how, you know, the development of more of these centers. and, roland, you bring a good point up, you should be seeing more of these centers and hopefully they'll be serving more people over the course of the next few years. thanks to both of you. >> next time we talk, i want to talk about the "john king usa" open-collar look. >> a lot of people are talking about it. dr. tom fogarty, and roland

martin is our chief cnn fashion analyst joining us from chicago. all right. checking some of the top stories we're covering for you here at cnn. secretary of state, hillary clinton, and other top administration officials are heading south of the border with a summit with mexican officials on the country's drugs war. high on the agenda, drug trafficking and border security. an estimated 16,000 people have been killed since mexican president felipe calderon declared his drug war. a.c.o.r.n. is closing its doors a move in part due to falling revenues, but the decision comes six months after video surfaced showing a.c.o.r.n. workers giving tax tips to people posing as a pimp and a prostitute. and also their demise is blaming on partisan politics and right-wing activists. with the stroke of a bunch of pens president obama signed the landmark health care reform bill into law today. among other things, it extended

coverage to more than 32 million uninsured americans. senators must reconcile the differences between the senate and the house bills, and 14 states are suing the federal government over the reforms. they're saying that they are unconstitutional. all right, look at the clock. 2:40, almost 2:41 eastern time, and that means, there he is, ed henry. the senior white house correspondent, he's going to tell us about why the president used 22 pens to sign the -- sign the bill. he's also going to tell us about swearing at the white house. >> reporter: not me. it wasn't me. thanks for coming.

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weeks. he gives us something special on this show, including dropping the "f"-bomb. >> reporter: i have an "f" on this piece of story. let me set the sustain. there's no other way to tell it. the president coming in signing pretty historic legislation, a lot of folks, david gergen, said it's the biggest achievement since medicare. he's in the east room. wonderful chandelier, very majest majestic. several hundred people in the room for the bill signing, children in the room, i'll include. and let's show what happened when vice president biden decided to introduce the president. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states of america, barack obama. >> this is a big [ bleep ] deal. >> thank you, everybody. >> he was quite excited about it. >> reporter: this is a big deal, maybe you don't want to use the extra word, and i thought robert gibbs had the best response. he was going on twitter and getting e mails from me saying,

what the heck, and, yes, mr. vice president, you're right. that's all robert gibbs said. i talked to the vice president's office hoping to get some sort of comment. we'll let robert gibbs' tweet speak for itself. i think that's the first time i've heard, let the tweet stand. this ricochetted around the internet immediately after it happened and the vice president had no choice but to use truth as the best defense. they believe it's true, they believe it's a big deal. >> here's something interesting, the pen, the president signed his name each letter with one pen and then gave it over. >> reporter: each letter, actually, i think there was 11 letters in barack obama,