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me a job, you don't think this is a job? >> no. this is a great job. last night my friend was watching with his 5-year-old son. he said when james carville came on, he said is that pete? there's some drawbacks. >> you and james go to the same hairdresser? >> we do. you'll never be there, john king. >> pete dominic. that was a great grimace. that's all for us. campbell brown starts right now. >> hi there, everybody. our top story tonight is the rage at congress. attacks against members of congress who voted for health care reform. we're talking about death threats, vandalism, pretty serious stuff. that's where we're starting tonight's mash-up as always. just one day after celebrating their biggest legislative victory in decades, democratic
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are sounding a different note, alarm. take a listen. >> do you feel your members are really at risk in terms of their security? >> yes. i think we've had very serious incidences that have occurred. >> a significant number of democrats, at least ten, have received threats in one way or another. >> you will rue the day you did this, mr. stupak. >> reporter: death threats started pouring into the office of bart stupak, as soon as the an die abortion democrat announced he would vote yes. >> i hope you die. shattered glass. >> reporter: democrats accused republicans stirring a hostile political mood. connect that to tactics used by republicans to slow things down. republicans offered dozens of amendments trying to derail a final package of fixes to the health care reform law and
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accused democrats of ignoring the public. >> the arrogance is palpable. palpable. and inexcusable. >> we're going to have much more on this developing story a little later tonight. president obama today signed the executive order on abortion that bought him enough votes to pass health care refor, but unlike yesterday's ex traf ganza, this was low key and closed to reporters. >> reporter: it restates federal policy that there cannot be federal funding for abortion. significant about this, number one, at the briefing today, robert gibbs was basically saying that the president don't believe this was really necessary. he doesn't believe this changes any kind of policy, because he does not believe the original health care bill funded -- would provide for federal funding of abortions. some colleagues were pressing him, what's the point of this. >> it's an executive order. i mean, it's not a frivolous thing. the president did not in health care reform believe we did change the status quo.
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and believes that this reiterates that it's not changed. >> reporter: anti abortion rights democrats whose votes were crucial to passing the bill attended but no press coverage was allowed, only a photo taken by the white house. >> members of congress who oppose abortion demanded that order before they would vote for health care reform. >> as we told you earlier, some of those lawmakers are facing death threats now. the white house tight lipped tobtd about president obama's closed door meetings with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. it's clear the relations between the two countries still very tense. >> reporter: white house insisting this is a key ally, but they decided to have the talks behind closed doors. >> not everything the president does is for the cameras and for the press. there are areas that they discussed last night, some of which they agree and some of which they disagree. as i've said, those talks are
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ongoing. >> reporter: this afternoon, george rhythm and dennis ross pick up where the president left off. >> it was not a good day for israel in terms of the language and attacks inside the council chamber. >> yesterday's announcement that the final approval has been given to build 20 settlement units in sheikh jarra is r unacceptable. >> more than 100 mill at that points are behind bars. they were arrested on suspicion of blotting terrorist attacks. >> more than 100 suspects are accused of plotting attacks on police and oil installations in the saudi kingdom. most of the suspects are saudi and anymoren 83. >> they captured a lot of weapons, ammunition, video recording equipment, communications equipment, and they also say they captured
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another two cells, two six man cells. they say these two six man cells were preparing a suicide attack, preparing separate suicide attacks on saudi oil facilities. they were going to pack vehicles full of explosives. >> of the 101 arrested more are actually yemenees. the saudis have made clear these individuals were launched from yemen into saudi arabia where they were going to plan these attacks. >> security officials believe some of the militants arrested are linked to al qaeda. bill clinton and george w. bush are in haiti on a humanitarian mission together. the two ex presidents raised more than $37 million. for all their good work, this may be the moment from their trip that is going attention on line. it is tape of the pair shaking hands with a group of haitians. let's see if you notice anything
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here. >> and that's one of the reasons that -- one of the things we've done is provide more money. >> all right, anyway, we do not apparently have the tape. there is a moment that you're going to have to go to the blog to check out. only the tape will do it justice. that brings us to the punch line. this is courtesy of jimmy fallon. he was feeling the love at yesterday's health care fest at the white house. take a look. >> after signing the bill, obama hugged nancy pelosi. he called her one of the best speakers of the house ever had. obama is either really excited about health care or totally
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wasted. i love you. serious, you're the best. >> jimmy fallon, everybody. that's the mash-up. tonight's top story, the health care battle takes an ominous turn. some house members are fearing for their safety. you're going to see and hear examples of what they're dealing with when we come back. [ female announcer ] treat yourself to something special for lunch. how about a coastal soup and grilled shrimp salad combination? or maybe our new savory shrimp jambalaya. seafood lunches starting at just $6.99 at red lobster. seafood lunches starting at just $6.99 better cover up those hands, or they'll be in for a dry spell.
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tofrlle at least ten democratic house care members are reporting death threats are getting extra security. a brick was thrown through the office window of one congresswoman and a picture of a news was faxed to representative jim clyburn who is african-american. another news drawing, this one sent to the office of congressman bart stupak. his office getting nasty voice mails. take a listen to this. >> congressman stupak, you are one big piece of human [ bleep ]. think about this there are millions of people across the country who wish you ill. >> stupak, you baby murderer, that's what you are. you and your family are scum.
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you jump into the potomac. >> with me to talk about this, "time magazine" senior political analyst mark halpern and gloria borger. guys, gloria, you start, what's going on here? >> i think we've been talking about the polarization of our politics for the last year since barack obama became president. now what you're seeing is a controversial bill that gets passed, a lot of anger. you're seeing a lack, to my way of looking at it, of leadership of our elected officials to get together and tell the people who follow them enough is enough. this is not the way we want to behave. this is not the way you should behave. when you have somebody on the house floor yelling baby killer when the health care bill gets passed sunday night, what kind of example is that? >> has the rhetoric sort of gotten to the point where it is crossing a line?
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>> i think anyone, and the three of us are privileged to be in this group to be able to communicate with the public needs to denounce these things. there's no place in american life. as i think gloria was suggesting, we need everybody in the country who's got the mega phone to denounce these things. >> are republicans doing that enough? you have boehner came out today denouncing? do you think they're doing it loudly enough? >> the president should call them in and do it jointly. then they should better example. there's a lot of blame to go around for how partisan has become. this is not partisanship. this is threats and discourse that has no place in american life? >> it's different for john boehner to put out a press release. what they have to do is physically, maybe your idea is great, meet with the president of the united states or at least do it together. this shouldn't be that difficult. maybe some tea party leaders
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ought to do the same thing. if already people from move on doing this, they ought to do the same thing too. this is not the way we conduct our discourse because it gets dangerous. >> we should all make clear, again to reinforce, this happens on the left and right. >> exactly. >> it should be denounced across the board and the problem is, the republican party now is feeling weaker than they thought they would when this passed. because they're feeling weaker, they're going where the anger is. >> let me throw this number out because you hear a lot about the acre, but the gallup poll was fascinating, 46% said president obama did an excellent job. 32%, democrats in congress. this isn't the mainstream. it is a very vocal and very angry minority, but very much a minority. >> it is. i mean, i think what mark is
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saying is that what's going on in the republican party, as you see all these amendments coming up to health care reform, which is in fact passed but they want to gum up the works is they're making a play for the works. this is about the 2010 midterm elections. i don't want to say congressional leaders, republicans or democrats, in any way, shape or form condone this kind of language or activity, but what you're seeing on the floor of the senate going on is that. it's diversionary. some folks are getting overheated on this. >> when you look at the president's agenda, taking this more big picture, in this climate, is there any legislation that he can get republican support for? are we in like a lock down? >> education, i think the president should call republican leaders to the white house and say you agree with a lot of my
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agen agenda. it's about children, it's about areas of commonality. i think even if republicans were reluck tablets to do it -- >> you think even in advance of november. >> i think it's so important, education is such an important issue, it's one issue the president has shown a willingness to reject aspects of the democratic base. they might be able to do it on financial reform, but with less resonance. >> i think they're going to get a few republicans on financial reform. democrats call wall street reform. there are a few republicans who have shown a willingness to go along with some of the changes they're proposing. >> i don't think that will change the paradigm because that's not an issue where they will be coming together. >> but the paradigm probably overall won't be changed before 2010. >> probably not, but i think education is where to go. >> thanks, guy. some frosty relations
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tensions remain high between israel and the united states over the plan to add jewish
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settlements in the predominantly palestinian east jerusalem. the go ahead announced when joe biden was visiting the region. the white house has been outspoken in its disapproval. fast forward to last night at the white house. president obama met twice with israeli prime minister alone in the oval office. we would like to show you some pictures of these meetings. incredibly, there were no cameras. something that almost never happens. white house press secretary robert gibbs was pressed about that today. take a listen. >> diplomacy involves low profile. >> this is the way we felt most comfortable handling this. >> is the president concerned about photographs between him and netanyahu being seen? >> no.
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>> i think it comes as a great shock to you and me, but not everything the president does is for the cameras and for the press. >> so what really is going on here? cnn's ed henry and jill doherty are here to talk about this. this is a time when tensions are incredibly high. ed, what was the thinking. tell me about what happened. >> so much drama. especially an ally coming in, there would be a photo op, you wouldn't see what unfolded, basically a 90 minute meeting at the white house. i saw the white house gates open up. i even heard the motorcycles reving up. we're told the prime minister decided he wanted to stick around a little longer and talk
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to his staff in a private room. white house aides gave him the roosevelt room. he conferred there while the president went up stairs to see his family. we're told the prime minister called for the president to come back. he did come back. they went to the oval office. nobody will give us the details. what we have been able to pick up is they're trying to get these peace talks going again and they seem to be hitting a brick wall. >> so are we -- are things frozen right now? where do they stand right now? >> well, the little information we're picking up from white house aides is that the president urged the prime minister to make some concessions, show some good faith after all this tension in recent weeks that could maybe get the ball rolling. is that on settlements? nobody will get that specific, but the bottom line is there has been no movement from the israelis so far. there was another meeting tonight with george mitchell and the israeli prime minister, george mitchell, the u.s. envoy to the middle east. it does appear to be frozen.
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>> jill, what potentially could happen now? we know the u.s. is demanding all settlement activity. israel is saying it's not going to happen. how do you see a breakthrough emerging here? >> it's hard to see a breakthrough right now, campbell, because what we're seeing right now is complete frozen situation. the whole idea of having the trip by the prime minister here was to bring things back on track, at least that's what we thought. what do we end up with? basically it's the same thing as two weeks ago. the issue of the settlements hasn't been resolved, there's been no stepping back by benjamin netanyahu. the idea is to get the parties talking. before the flap started about two weeks ago, they were going to have what are called proximity talks, indirect talks. now those are in jeopardy. the real question is will there be any type of negotiations,
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will the two parties sit down and where does the peace process go? >> jill doherty tonight and ed henry. many thanks. we appreciate it. we will be updating you when there is a breakthrough. still ahead, the newest political odd couple, how an explosive issue brought two former rivals together for the legal fight of their lives when we come back. it's great. i eat anything that i want. key lime pie, pineapple upside down cake, raspberry cheesecake... ...yeah, every night it's something different. oh yeah yeah...she always keeps them in the house.
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>> with the rivalry between republicans and democrats getting nastier by the day, we focus on two men turning the partisan divide on its head. they are former rivals, lawyers who argued before the supreme court in one of the most divisive political fights in our history, the battle for the presidency in 2000. ted olson, a well known conservative was george w. bush's lawyer. the man he defeated was david boise. today they are fighting on the same side of another polarizing issue. gloria borger has this report. >> reporter: it's a script that could have been written in hollywood. the opening shot, a lunch in the polo lounge in the beverly hills
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hotel. and it starts where you might expect, with a hollywood heavy hitter. director and actor rob reiner. >> this was after proposition 8 went the wrong way for us. >> reporter: the lunch took place in november 2008, a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we're trying to figure out what to do next. we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition 8. a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> reporter: the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law who turned out to be ted olson, a towering figure in the conservative legal movement. >> so that stunned you, right? >> yes. it more than stunned me. it stunned me, but i said if
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this is true, this is the home run of all times. i mean, the idea that ted olson, this arch conservative, the solicitor general for george bush who had argued bush v gore and basically put me in bed for a couple of days, i was so depressed, was interested in gay rights. i thought let's check it out. >> didn't you have any doubts about ted olson? >> you know, they say politics makes strange bed fellows. you don't have a stranger bed fellow than me and ted olson. >> chad griffin was also at the polo lounge. he and rob reiner are old friends. they met when chad was just 19 and a press aide in the clinton white house. >> good morning, prosecutmr. pr. >> reporter: they decided griffin would be the one to make
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that first uneasy call to olson. >> much to my surprise, it was an issue he clearly thought a lot about, but the moment i hung up the phone, i realized that there was a chance i was talking to someone who overnight could become the most important, significant advocate for marriage equality that this movement has ever seen. >> we talked for awhile on the telephone and then he said can i come and talk to you in your office in washington, d.c.? >> reporter: olson took the meeting, although they kept it a secret. here you are with donald rums feld. >> the first thing you see is a picture of ronald reagan. >> he was a wonderful man to know and work for. and of course president bush is here too. >> reporter: that would be bush 43. >> will, to the best of my ability. >> reporter: the president whose election olson successfully defended before the supreme court in 2000, a memory that wasn't lost on chad griffin.
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>> i knew i was in foreign territory, but i saw enough in that office to know just how republican, you know, of a world that ted olson comes from. my world could not be more different than that. >> reporter: also on display was olson's extraordinary legal track record, with 44 supreme court victories under his belt. >> here areal kwils. now, you get one of these every time. >> every time you argue a case in the supreme court, at the desk is the kwil. >> reporter: weeks later, rob reiner says the deal was signed at his home. here you are sitting talking to ted olson whom you probably regarded as -- >> the enemy. >> the devil, they say. the devil. >> now, what are you? >> i'm a devil to a different group of people. >> it really is a betrayal of everything ted olson has
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purported to stand for. >> reporter: ed wailen feels betrayed. it was viewed as someone who fought the good fight. i think most people assumed that he was a man of principle. >> do you think he destroyed his reputation? >> i think so. >> this is a case that challenges the status of individuals. >> reporter: why did olson do it? >> people say you must be doing it because someone in your family is gay. that is not the case. i'm doing it because i think it's the right thing to do. >> reporter: once olson made the decision, it became an emotional journey. >> a younger woman who works here, is a lawyer. she came up to me and said, ted, i want to tell you what i think about what you're doing. i'm a lesbian. i don't think you know me. we haven't worked together. my partner and i have children. i can't tell you what you're doing for us by taking this
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case, and she started to cry. and then i did. >> reporter: then olson made another move right out of central casting. he wanted to hire a co-counsel. of all people, the liberal david boise. his former supreme court rival, the man he beat in bush versus gore. the director loved it. >> when he suggested that we get david boise to be his co-counsel, i thought, wow, to get the two guys who opposed each other on bush v gore to team up was saying that this is a nonpartisan issue. >> they share an abiding belief. >> reporter: not to mention irresistible public relations. >> i think ted recognized that this odd bed fellows combination would get a lot of attention. >> some people called them the odd couple. >> it is a very odd couple, isn't it? >> reporter: or is it?
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judge for yourself. >> as we were getting ready to argue bush versus gore, we said some day someone is going to come to us who will want to get married and they will be gay. and we'll do this together. >> we actually talked about that. >> that second part, i don't remember. >> next, these former supreme court rivals are more than colleagues in an inside look at a very surprising friendship right after this. it can happen anytime,
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ted ols be and david boise proved the adage opposites attract. ted olson who successfully argued for george bush and mr. boise. they are working together in the fight for same sex marriage. once again, senior political analyst, gloria borger. >> we now need to resolve this election. >> reporter: it was the historic case that decided the presidency and divided the nation. olson and boise were the ones on the supreme court battling it out. that was then. this is now. on the streets of new york,
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they're talking anything but the law. >> it's called crazy heart. jeff bridges. >> i know. i haven't seen that. i want to see that though and "avatar." >> they've come a long way. >> let me play a little game with you. great lawyer. >> ted. >> david. >> that's too easy. >> reporter: the adversaries are good friends. when we asked to meet with them, they suggested a personal spot, david boise's apartment in new york city. >> if anybody had said to me nine years ago that i would be interviewing the two men who fought each other tooth and nail in bush versus gore on the same side of a constitutional fight, i would have said are you crazy? >> actually, david and i talked about this in 2000, as we were getting ready to argue in the supreme court, that some day, we would like to be on the same side in the united states supreme court. we said. >> in chambers. >> we said some day, someone is
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going to come to us who will want to get married and they'll be gay. >> reporter: it would take nearly a decade for that to actually happen. >> what do we want? >> reporter: olson was recruited by a group of hollywood activists who wanted to challenge proposition 8, the controversial 2008 ballot initiative that banned same sex marriage in california. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here. >> reporter: he said yes, which was startling enough, but he knew he needed some political balance on the team, so he picked up the phone. >> can you tell me what the case is about. i think it took me about 15 seconds to say yes. >> it took you less than one second. >> reporter: it was a case made for david boise, and olson knew it. >> i think it is in some senses the last major civil rights battle that we're fighting in this country, hopefully. this is not a liberal conservative issue. it's not a republican democratic issue.
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it's an issue of civil rights and human rights. >> do you find yourself defe defending ted olson? >> no. i find myself defending ted olson to my republican friends. >> politics aside, their wives joke that they're like an old married couple. they go biking together and both enjoy the finer things. >> what do you like about each other? >> where shall we start? shall we start with the wine or the bike trips. >> start with the wine. after a long day, a glass of -- >> definitely a glass. >> chardonnay. >> reporter: they have known each other for decades and super lawyers practicing in a rare fieed legal strat sphere. then came bush versus gore, the hottest case of all, a case to this day they don't agree on. >> do you still think you were right? chts absolutely. >> well, he wasn't obviously.
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supreme court decided. furthermore, the journalists all went back to florida and count theed votes 12 different ways and it all came out the same way. >> it didn't come out the same way. >> reporter: ironically, that case brought them closer personally. >> something happens in the sense that you get so deeply involved in a case that about the only person that really appreciates what's going on is the lawyer on the other side who's just as deep into the weeds as you are. they can appreciate all the nuances. it's a natural kind of affinity. >> reporter: that affinity was strengthed by tragedy. a year later on september 11, 2001, olson's wife barbara was killed on flight 77, the flight that crashed into the pentagon. boise knew his friend was suffering and reached out to him. >> i was being given an award by the lab scroll in washington and
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it was an annual award that they give, i'm dyslexic and they give it to somebody who has achieved, i said if you get ted olson, i would like to have him give me the award. >> i'm very honored to be here with david boise because he is the best. >> i could hardly talk about it because it is such an emotional event. that gesture of david asking me to be with him on the stand receiving that award in front of the 2, 3,000 people was a wonderful gesture by him. it's ten years ago now and i can hardly talk about it. >> reporter: that strong bond is still there a decade later as together, they take on the fight for gay marriage. >> they are the wonder twins. >> reporter: paul and jeff are one of the couples that olson and boise are representing. >> i can tell you that both those guys, they put their heart and soul into this.
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when they're fighting for our equal rights, they are on the same page and doing it together. >> our nation was founded on the principle that all americans are created equal. >> reporter: their legal strategy is simple. olson and boise argue that banning same sex marriage is unconstitutional period. they expect the supreme court to be the ultimate decider for the nation. >> it would be the roe versus wade of our ven ration. >> they have their critics, conservative legal analyst ed whalen. >> there is nothing that remotely supports a right to same sex marriage. >> reporter: even some of those who agree with olson and boise say that same sex marriage should be left to the states. >> there are skeptics out there that say you're going too quickly. that you're essentially going to wide up at the supreme court and you're asking the supreme court to do a heavy lift. >> every civil rights struggle, there have always been people who said you are moving too fast. the country is not ready for it.
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how many people in 1954 were saying the country is not ready for desegregation. >> everyone says this is a conservative court. why are you doing it now? >> everybody says ted is a conservative guy. there are lots of conservative people. the idea that civil rights and human rights is exclusively a liberal preserve, i think is flat wrong. >> reporter: their clients have faith their lawyers will win. >> will david and ted be at the wedding? >> they better be. >> they just might officiate the wedding. >> that would be interesting. >> or they could be best man. >> man and man. >> whatever. >> in our wedding and in life. >> reporter: in the end, that's likely to be a decision for the high court. >> last time you went to the supreme court didn't go so well for you. what's going to be different this time with the two of you together? >> one thing, this time i've got ted on my side.
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>> i would say the one thing that would be different is this time we'll get all the votes that i can persuade and all the votes david can persuade. there will be no votes left on the other side. >> no recount. >> no recount necessary. >> gloria borger back with us right now. gloria, i have to ask, they are on the opposite side of public opinion. >> absolutely. 36 states have statutes banning same sex marriage. only six states allow it. public opinion is opposed to it, but when you ask these two lawyers why are you out front on this, they say look, if it were up to the states, at the time of the supreme court decision on interracial marriage, you wouldn't have had interracial marriage either. they believe proposition 8 violates the constitutional equal protection clause. they believe in the end it should be decided by the courts. >> what's the status of the courts? >> we're awaiting closing arguments in the federal district court in san francisco.
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there has been a bit of delay because those who oppose the same sex marriage question the legitimacy of the trial. it will go to the ninth circuit and most people believe right to the top. >> a fascinating story and insight. gloria borger. thanks. >> coming up, the state of black america today, are african-americans better off. a new report has surprising answers. that just ahead. [ female announcer ] treat yourself to something special for lunch. how about a coastal soup and grilled shrimp salad combination? or maybe our new savory shrimp jambalaya. seafood lunches starting at just $6.99 at red lobster.
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more must see news happening right now. mike galanos with tonight's download. >> first off, aruben authorities call off a dive team search for the remains of natalee holloway. the search for holloway was revived after a vacationing couple came up with a picture. actor robert cult died this morning after a full in a los angeles park. culp won fame on i spy.
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in recent years culp played ray roman no's father. defense secretary robert gates is expected to reveal changes to the don't ask don't tell policy. under the current rules gays in the military cannot serve openly. gates will focus on regulatory approval. among them, if a soldier is outed by a third party. that soldier will not be automatically dismissed. the video, bill clinton, george w. bush, they're in haiti. take a look at this. it's a tape of them shaking hands with some of the locals. george bush on the right, he pats, he pats, the blogosphere going wild. did he wipe his hand on bill's shirt. are you seeing a pat or wipe. >> i i'm seeing a pat. >> i saw the pat first.
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that's all the blogosphere needs to get going. >> it doesn't take much. mike, thanks very much. "larry king live" starts in just a few minutes. >> maybe it was a priep. >> a little bit of something in between maybe. >> by the way, a convicted murderer was scheduled to die hours ago today. the at the last minute a temporary stay has kept hank skinner alive just for now. we'll talk to his wife and those who are fighting to keep him from the death chamber. we're going to discuss about two savage attacks on two teens who happened to attend the same school in florida. some threatening just reelvealed text messages might reveal something. >> coming up right here, america's racial divide, what this new report says about dreams of a post racial nation. that when we come back. [ male announcer ] when we built our first hybrid,
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some sobering statistics on the state of black america. a new report shows the jobless rate among african-americans is nearly twice the rate for white americans. the same dramatic divide can be seen in virtually every measure from income to health care. joining us from san diego is best selling author and georgetown university professor, mike dyson. as we said, the report showing
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disparity between blacks and whites and that it's growing. unemployment numbers, as we pointed out, home ownership, health insurance, on and on and on. first of all, does it surprise you that the gap is growing and where do we go from here? >> no, it's good to be here with you tonight, campbell. i'm not surprised by it. the disparities are rough and severe. 9.7% among white americans, 16.5% among blacks. when you look at index of political health, african-american and latino people lag far behind. i think the irony of course is we're in this post racial era where we were done with the issue of race. what this suggests to us is we're far from done with the issue of race, and the economic qualities and social disparities speak about two nations. the current commission talked
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about it one white, one black, unequal, in one sense continuing to be divided. we have to fix that stuff. when we talk about president obama targets african-american communities, that's not because he's a black man and because they're black communities. that's because a major sector of the population is disproportionately affected by the downturn in the economy. i think we need specific targeting for those things to happen. for instance, 25 billi$25 billie stimulus project was given to private businesses. only 1.6 billion of that went to latino and black businesses. we have to figure out a way to close the gap intentionally by the government saying we have to target these communities because they are hardest hit and figure out a way to help them. >> there has been this rift between the naacp and the congressional back caucus over president obama, over him doing more to address these problems
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and target as you said he needs to. you've been critical of the president. what is your concern of how he's approaching this? >> obviously, i was one of the first african-american people to endorse mr. obama and stood by him and was a surrogate, but i think now that he's governing we have to hold him accountable as he asked to be held accountable. wolf blitzer asked him why would martin luther king endorse you. he said he would get america to hold us accountable. mr. obama has been loathe to embrace the issue of race, first of all, but secondly, to target these poorer communities which happen to be african-american and latino with specific funds. he says a rising tide lifts all boats. the reality is if you ain't got a boat, you can't get in the boat to be lifted. i think we have to talk about boat making. we have to talk about economic and fiscal integrity for the communities. we have to talk about the trillions of dollars that were
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bled off. i think the congressional black caucus is doing what it should do, hold the president accountable to the issues that every president, by the way, not just him, every president before mr. obama who was white dealt with the issue of race in one form or another. bill clinton with the race initiative, george bush dealing with africa and across the board. we can't expect a black president not to do what other white presidents have done. lyndon johnson dealt with it. >> a much longer discussion. i wish we had more time. michael erik dyson. appreciate you coming by tonight? >> always good to be here. >> "larry king live" coming up in just a few minutes. we'll be back in just a minute. i drove my first car from my parent's home
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