filibuster, and the -- i want the public option. >> we don't blend with politics here. >> well, i guess the smoothie party is not going to work, john. welcome to the first ever cupcake party. this is where we focus on foreign policy. nuclear weapons, this is a good cupcake. >> pete, i got to let you go inside for the indoor party for guys with funny hats. i think since it's friday nights, i might join the wheat, hops and barley party. >> have a good weekend. >> thanks for spending time with us this week. campbell brown starts right now. cnn prime time begins right now. >> hey there, everybody. the president announces the biggest nuclear arms control treaty in nearly two decades. that news tops the mash-up tonight. we're watching it all so you don't have to. the arms control deal with russia is a major breakthrough for the white house coming on

the heels of the health care victory earlier this week. the president announced the treaty today, flanked by secretary of state hillary clinton and pentagon chief robert gates. >> today we have taken another step forward in leaving behind the legacy of the 20th century while building a more secure future for our building. >> the ten-year pact reduces by one-third the nuclear weapons that russia and u.s. will play. >> it also cuts in half the rockets that can carry the missiles to their final destination. >> the russian insisted as part of the treaty the u.s. stop plans for a missile defense system. the president told medvedev, quote, if you're going to continue to persist on this missile defense language, we're going to have to walk away. ultimately, the russians blinked. >> president obama and president medvedev agree on another thing, and this is nuclear weapons should be phased out, a world without nuclear weapons. >> now clearly a serious

occasion. but hillary clinton did manage to inject a little humor. >> just as we have to go to our congress, president medvedev has to go to the duma. and i think president obama has said that he would send rahm emanuel to moscow. and we all immediately endorsed that offer. so, you know, if president medvedev wants to take us up on it, we're ready. >> president obama and medvedev are expected to sign the treaty april 8th in prague. in iraq tonight, we finally have results from the parliamentary elections, a vote that was plagued with charges of fraud. >> it's been nearly three weeks since the elections took place. only today were the final results announced. >> ayad allawi won these elections. now he is a shiite, but he is secular. he is pro american, and he is very anti-iran. the current government in iraq right now is a religious state

that leans toward iran. >> ayad allawi has 91 seats, edging out current prime minister nuri al maliki. but there is likely to be upheaval ahead. >> neither came close to a majority and forming a coalition government could take months of drawn-out negotiations. maliki is not going down without a fight, however. he promised to challenge the outcome in court. >> a state department spokesman called for all candidates and parties to accept the results. in politics here at home, one-time republican power couple john mccain and sarah palin reunited for the first time since 2008. back then, he made her a household name. well today she returned the favor, trying to use her star power to help him get reelected. >> she downplayed his many years in washington, but insisted that he will fight the fight that this very tea party-oriented crowd wants to fight against big spending and taxes. >> he is leading the loyal opposition in congress, standing

up and speaking out against the obama-pelosi -- reid agenda. >> his challenger in the gop primary, a former congressman who is now a popular talk radio host is casting the senator as an out-of-touch insider, not conservative enough on the big issues. so mccain has enlisted the help of the conservative superstar he helped create. >> i think this go-around when all the votes are tallied, i think he is going to win this one. >> yet the crowd at today's rally seem in order enamored with palin. when it comes time to vote in arizona, are you going to vote for mccain or hayworth? >> probably hayworth. >> you really are just here to see sarah palin? >> you betcha'. >> and as you heard there, mccain is being challenged on the right by former congressman j.d. hayworth. a glimmer of hope today for homeowners who are underwater on their mortgages, especially those who are also unemployed. the obama administration announced a plan to prevent foreclosures, in part by reducing mortgage balances.

>> it would use about $14 billion in t.a.r.p., or bailout money to pay lenders to write off some of their principle owed by underwatered borrowers. >> beginning this fall, lenders will be required to consider reducing loan principle for troubled mortgages. lenders that do will get a financial incentive. homeowners who are underwater, but not facing foreclosure will be offered government-sponsored refinancing, and the unemployed will be eligible for a cap on their mortgage payment. >> barely minutes after the news leaked out today, a wave of outrage hit the blogoshpere. writes one, i'm so disgusted of this never-ending bailout of people who acted irresponsibly at the expense of those who didn't. >> this came in this morning. one in three homeowners, nearly one in three now underwater. >> homeowners cannot apply for the plan. mortgage companies get to decide if they want to offer it at all. now i can't even begin to describe what i'm to be show you. all i'm going say is larry king and snoop dogg.

watch. >> i have 25 cars, larry. i got a little spizat called the doggy dizzy you know what i'm saying? >> no, i don't. >> where do you keep him? >> i got a little spizat like the bat cave, come up with this little whoa-wop when we need to. >> snoop dogg, i'm beginning to understand you. did you invent this language? >> i believe it's something that is hereditary. i believe it's something that is accustomed to us from where we come from. it's a ghetto thing. we have our own little slang we use in the ghetto. it becomes our own language and lingo. in the '70s it was called jive talk. now well call it snoop talk. >> you can see more from larry's interview with snoop dogg at the top of the hour. and that brings us to the punch line tonight courtesy of jay leno, who is not done talking about vice president's f-bomb the other day. take a listen.

>> he said the f-word during a press conference with the president the other day. well, the white house is not taking any more chances. you see what happened yesterday when he tried this. take a look. >> it is my personal honor and president to introduce the vice president of the united states, joseph r. biden jr. >> thank you very much. >> jay leno, everybody. and that is your friday night mash-up. tonight the power of palin. the former alaska governor back with the man who made her a star, john mccain. can she bring divided conservatives together? when we come back. ♪

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in respect to the tea party movement, beautiful movement. you know what? everybody here today is supporting john mccain. we are all a part of that tea party movement. >> from tucson national political correspondent jessica yellin and "time" magazine senior political analyst mike halprin. jessica, i know you were working the crowd a little bit before the event. who was the bigger draw here? was it john mccain or sarah palin? >> that would be palin, campbell. people were pouring in here with her book, wearing sayer have a shirts. as they were waiting, they were chanting sarah, sarah, sarah, never john, john, john. initially we were told sarah palin was going to be the keynote speaker and john mccain would speak before her, which is enormously unusual at an endorsement event. they changed that at the last minute, but it just shows you a new world order, campbell. >> i'll say. mark, you know, the last time we saw these two together was 2008. it was right after the election.

and since then, we have learned all sorts of behind-the-scenes campaign drama, much of it documented in your book. what do we know about the two of them now? do they talk? are they close? what can you tell us? >> they don't talk regularly, but they do talk on occasion. and they have smoothed over some of the rough issues around my book and some of the other issues where there was questions about tension between sarah palin and some of the people who worked for john mccain. this was a new world order today. mccain needs her here. she is now what he was a little over a year ago, the most powerful person in the republican party. he, he respects the fact that she's got such a following. he needs her. he has never resented, according to all my reporting the fact that she does, as she did today, during the campaign draw bigger crowds, gets more excitement from crowds. he welcomes that and finds it kind of unusual. he created sarah palin. if it wasn't for her, the country would not know her, she wouldn't have this opportunity. i think he has a measure of pride about that. he also finally feels responsible for the rough things she has encountered by the fact

that he elevated her to the national ticket. >> let me ask you both. yes, she drawing a crowd. but does that actually translate, mark, into votes? do her tea party credentials rub off on him? >> one of the things that john mccain was horrible at in politics, including the presidential campaign is the nuts and bolts of politics. he has never paid much attention to it. he has never needed to. at this event today, all the people as jessica quickly said, they were collecting names and e-mail addresses of people they can solicit for political support, maybe for campaign contributions. so it translates in that way. and i thought at this event sarah palin was right on message. not trying to remake john mccain, but basically saying the thing you care about the most, fighting washington, standing up, trying to reduce the size of government, mccain's record on that is solid. in some ways it's better than almost any other republicans. she was very good on that i thought for him. >> and jessica, your take? >> and campbell, to build on that, i talked the a lot of

people afterwards as they were leaving who said look, they love sarah palin. they were glad they came to hear both of them, and they're still undecide on john mccain. so it obviously helps him rather than hurts him. but it's not clear that she will deliver undecideds to mccain just yet. >> guys, i want to play a little bit of palin from today, rather. mark, after health care passed this week, she tweeted out to her followers don't retreat, instead reload. and democrats said that that kind of talk incited some of the violence that we saw this week. she responded to that charge today. let's listen. >> here in the news reports lately kind of this ginned up controversy about us, common sense conservatives inciting violence because we happen to oppose some of the things in the obama administration. [ audience booing ] >> our vote. >> amen, brother. that's what you do it with, your vote. you got it right. we know violence isn't the

answer. when we take up our arms, we're talking about our vote. but this bs coming from the lame stream media lately about this -- about us inciting violence, don't let -- don't let the conversation be diverted. don't let a distraction like that get you off track. keep fighting hard for these candidates who are all about the common sense conservative solutions that we need. >> and mark, palin is going to address a very different crowd tomorrow. this is a huge tea party rally in harry reid's home state of nevada. talk to us a little bit about the tension between that group and the mainstream republican party. because they need them. but there is also a little bit fear surrounding the tea party movement as well, isn't it? >> well, there is some fear, and there is some fear at an event like tomorrow's there can be people who are off message at the podium or out in the crowd. the reality is the republican party today thinks sarah palin is right, is largely animated by

the tea party movement, by conservative activists who are angry at washington and who are defiant the way palin is. they're not looking to work with barack obama and the democrats in congress for solutions. they are defiant. she embodies that. one of the gifts of sarah palin is she can come to an event like this, which has got more establishment republicans, not everybody, but some people, but then be the keynoter at this tea party event because her message right now is the message of the dominant wing of the republican party, as dangerous as it is for the party, to have that be its animation because it is not a centrist or a majority position. >> jessica yellin and mark halperin tonight, both of you from tucson. many thanks. i appreciate it. have a good night. when we come back, the presexual abuse scandal is spreading. tonight charges of a cover-up at the highest levels of the catholic church. the vatican blames the media for waging what it calls a smear campaign against the pope. new total effects body wash fights 7 signs of body aging, increasing elasticity, locking in moisture and more.

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charges and denials. what did pope benedict know about sexual abuse in the church before he became its leader? the vatican strongly denies new reports that benedict is archbishop and cardinal failed to stop a priest accused of

abusing children from taking up new duties in a different parrish. a report from rome where the vatican says it is under attack. >> reporter: smiles and waves from the pope as he addressed young people in st. peter's square, ahead of world youth day this coming sunday. his message to the young not to fear the call to the priesthood, an important message for the catholic congregation in difficult times. but vatican feels it is under siege, and not just from a deluge of sexual abuse allegations against priests, but from what it sees as a sustained campaign of attack on the part of the media. the vatican newspaper wrote on friday of a tendency in the media to ignore the facts, and said there was clearly an ignoble attempt to strike at pope benedict. in a letter of support for pope benedict from france's bishops, they wrote of a campaign to attack the pope and said we all

suffer from this disgraceful process and carry with you the pain you are carrying because of these slanders. this week the vatican strongly denied a "new york times" report that alleged the case of a u.s. priest who abused deaf children in the 1950s and 60s showed evidence of a cover-up on the part of the vatican many years later. victims say they believe the pope could have done more and earlier when he was a cardinal at the vatican. >> well, the pope knew about this. he was the one who handled the sexual abuse cases. so i think he should be accountable. >> reporter: vatican analysts say this kind of speculation has thrown the vatican into its worst ever crisis. >> there are people saying now after what has been written in "the new york times," also the pope is responsible of the cover-up, or could be responsible of the cover-up. that's the great issue. and in a certain sense, it's tragic for the pope because

benedict xvi since the moment of his election has taken a very clear way of a strategy in fighting the abuse scandals. >> reporter: in a letter published friday, the archbishop of westminster in the uk listed what he called the important changes the pope has made to church law on child abuse. he said pope benedict's actions speak as well as his words. the question is whether those actions speak loud enough to a doubtful public, and to others who say they have lost faith in their own church. diana magnay, cnn, rome. >> joining us right now is cnn senior vatican analyst john allen who is also senior correspondent for the national catholic reporter and independent newspaper not associated with the catholic church. it's so good to have you here, john. just talk to awes little bit about how bad this really is for the pope right now. he is at this sort of crossroads. how you i guess try to figure out how to reconcile calls for

transparency with what he may have done in his official capacity. >> well, in a nutshell, i think it's really, really bad. i think the bottom line is that what is at stake here is not so much criticism of the pope's policies, or sort of the vatican's corporate response to the crisis, but really his personal moral authority. i think what a lot of people would say is that the sexual abuse crisis is two props. it's the priest who abused and the bishops who covered up. >> who covered up. >> and the question that is now being asked is can the pope credibly discipline other bishops if his own track record on this issue isn't any better. and he's somehow got to give an answer to that question in order to move forward. >> why hasn't the church, frankly, taken stronger action? >> well, i think a lot of people say that first problem, which is preventing abuse, cracking down on priests who abuse, it has cleaned up its act. today it's abundantly clear if that guy abuses he is going to be inked out of the priesthood and he is going to be turn over to the cops. it's the second piece of the puzzle that a lot of people would say is unfinished business. the senior management. >> right.

>> the accountability for bishops. and the whole point is can the pope really move forward on that as long as his own track record as a bishop is under this kind of a microscope. >> so what could happen? what could the potential consequences for him be ultimately? >> well, you know, i saw today the london book make verse three-one odds benedict is going to resign. i would put the odds a lot longer than that. this basically doesn't happen. i do think the realistic short-term analysis that can be tied down, if not really paralyzed putting out fires about his past. the only response for that is to come clean that is for benedict to say i made a tragic mistake in this case in germany. if there are other such cases i want to know about them so i can rectify them, i can learn the lessons from those cases and move forward. >> would that satisfy people even if he said that? >> to be honest, i think it's the only arrow in the quiver he's got left. the alternative obviously to disclosure is continuing denial in pointing the finger at the media. and i think crisis management 101 would tell us that rarely helps.

>> no kidding. john allen, i really appreciate you being here, john. thank you very much. >> you bet. tonight when we come back, caught on video. violent mobs coming out of nowhere, terrorizing one city. we're going to look at what is behind this, and what is being done to try to stop it.

philadelphia is on alert tonight after a series of violent flash mobs terrorized its busy neighborhood. swarms of teenagers and young adults, presumably organized by text message have wreaked havoc, breaking into stores, assaulting bystanders, even brawling with each other. and officials say they have had enough. joining us right now is dr. joel fine, who is the director of the philadelphia collaborative violence prevention center and philadelphia daily news reporter yvette osley, who has been covering the story. yvette, let me start with you. i want to show people this video. take a look at this. this is of a flash mob that took place in philadelphia just this past saturday night. and you can see hundreds of teens sort of taking over the streets while the cobbs are out trying to maintain order. walk us through how this came about, and take us inside one of these things. what happened?

>> campbell, first of all, how are you? i think what is happening, i think you have young people who want to socialize with each other who are getting together at popular hot spots in the city. but i think what is important is to understand that you have kids who are going who are good kids, and within those groups you have children who go to these locations to wreak havoc on them. and then you have kids who belong to rival groups. and they all end up in the same spot. and somebody bumps somebody or somebody doesn't like somebody, and they start fighting. but what is important to notice on the videos is that you also see lots of children who are standing nearby. not everyone in those videos are punching and hitting people, pulling them out of their car, and that sort of thing. >> and this is -- this is again, it starts with a text message that sort of very quickly circulates, and everybody goes to the same location, right? >> correct. >> and there is another video i think we have that showed up surfaced on youtube this week.

and apparently that's the same flash mob. a and this is what you were referencing before, showing the kids kicking people in the streets, attacking other people in cars. mayor nutter could not have been more clear on this. he says in his quote you act like a knucklehead, you're going to get locked up. how is the city trying to deal with this? >> i think that the city is trying to increase enforcement of curfew. i think that they're trying to monitor some of these sites. they've involved the fbi. they're trying to hold parents accountable. they're also -- they've also assembled rapid response teams to deploy to some of these locations as soon as they hear that there has been a violent outbreak at some part of the city. >> right. and dr. fine, i know you have worked with teenagers in philadelphia. what is at the root of this behavior? what makes these peaceful gatherings turn violent? >> well, campbell, i think i do agree with yvette that the majority of these kids are

likely not going down to commit violence. they're going down to have a social experience. and there are a few who are maybe more than a few who are causing the violence, and then it kind of gets a little contagious. and that's when these problems occur, when large groups of kids get together and eventually someone becomes violent and eventually people get hurt. >> all right. we have to leave it there. dr. fein and yvette, i really appreciate you joining us tonight. thanks very much for your time. when we come back, how do fife teenaged boys disappear for more than 30 years without a trace. tonight we'll show you why a case that agonized families and brought one detective out of retirement may finally be solved. [ male announcer ] when you have sensitive skin,

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for the cops, it is one of the oldest cold cases in new jersey history. these five teenaged boys vanished on a summer night in 1978. one minute they were playing basketball in a park. the next they were all gone. well, this week detectives said they have solved the mystery, and randi kaye has tonight's breakout. >> reporter: for these cold case investigators in newark, one case kept them up at night, the oldest, coldest case in the city. jack utsi came out of retirement

in 2000 to work the case of the camden five. decades earlier, five teenagers had vanished. >> if i hadn't solved this case, i wouldn't have been satisfied. >> the missing boys were friends. it was a sweltering summer night, august 20th, 1978. the boys had been shooting hoops here at westside park in newark, new jersey. they stopped home for dinner, police say, and then headed out again with a man named lee evans who told them he needed their help moving some boxes. lee evans became a suspect immediately? >> yes. >> reporter: why is that? >> because he was last seen with the children. >> reporter: evans took a polygraph. it was inconclusive. >> there was a lot of flies around the case, you know. and flies only come around when something is stinking and it was dirty. >> reporter: back in '78, police, desperate for clues, searched the woods, the morgues, even tried a ouija board. in 1976, they consulted two

psychics. >> somebody got buried or i would not get those feelings i did. >> reporter: still, they came up empty. the mystery continued to make headlines. families endured painful anniversaries. >> every year you play it over again. you look at what are the possibilities. what could have happened. >> reporter: in 2007, eutsey asked lieutenant louis coraga to help on the case. you had to start from scratch? >> start from scratch. >> reporter: in 2008, a strange switch. suspect lee evans called one of the victim's brothers and told him he had become a born-again christian, and wanted to let him know that mobsters were involved in the boys' disappearance, mobsters, not him. police didn't buy it. evans and another suspect, his cousin philander hampton still lived in town. a third suspect died in 2008 of natural causes. is there one shred of evidence

that really stands out for you that you said you know what? this could be it. >> well, the putting together the fire with the disappearance of the kids. >> reporter: the fire he is talking about happened in 1978. about a year and a half ago, a witness came forward with new information about it. investigators knew they were close. the big break in the case came when investigators realized that a vacant home that had burned to the ground the night the boys disappeared that used to be right here actually belonged to one of the suspects in the case, philander hampton. but because the boys weren't reported missing until two days after that fire, police say there was no reason to make that connection, or ever consider that those boys might have been inside. investigators now believe the boys were lured to the vacant home at gunpoint, killed, and doused with gasoline. the house was burned to the ground. the boys' remains never found. the motive? payback. police source says the boys had

broken into evans' apartment and stolen drugs from him. two garbage bags full of marijuana. this week, more than three decades after the boys vanished, lee evans and philander hampton were arrested, charged with five on counts murder and arson. victims' families are torn between anger and relief. >> how do you reopen a case and never go back to your prime suspect until now? >> reporter: both men pleaded not guilty, but for jack eutsey, it's case closed. >> they thought they got away with it. they thought they had their best shot. everybody looked at them. everybody looked at them. >> reporter: and they thought they were in the clear. >> they thought they were in the clear. >> reporter: it may have taken more than 31 years, but if they did kill these boys, investigators finally got it right. randi kaye, cnn, newark, new jersey. when we come back, a

celebrity chef who is out to start a food revolution. can he save americans from themselves? jamie oliver on what you should eat. youtube didn't exist. and facebook was still run out of a dorm room. when we built our first hybrid, more people had landlines than cell phones, and gas was $1.75 a gallon. and now, while other luxury carmakers are building their first hybrids, lexus hybrids have traveled 5.5 billion miles. and that's quite a head start. ♪

jamie oliver joins me to talk about his crusade to end

obesity in america. but first, more must-see news happening right now. mike galanos here with tonight's download. hey, mike. >> hey, campbell. a chicago taxi driver is under arrest accused of sending money to al qaeda. he is a u.s. citizen originally from pakistan. officials say he had talked about attacking a stadium somewhere in the enthusiast summer, but they stress there is no imminent danger. it is being called the deadliest accident in 20 years in the state of kentucky. ten people riding in a van died this morning after the driver of a semitruck crossed the median and slammed into them head-on. the big rig driver was also killed. this happened on interstate 65 about 40 miles outside of bowling green. the van was heading to a wedding two. children riding in safety seats survived. dennis hopper made what could be his final scheduled public appearance today, receiving his star on the hollywood walk of fame. hopper is 73 and suffering from terminal prostate cancer. that's according to documents filed this week in hopper's bitter divorce battle.

jack nicholson who starred with hopper in "easy rider" was among those on hand. and if you consider yourself a royal watcher, you have nothing on tribesmen from vanuatu. according to reports, locals believe queen elizabeth's husband, prince philip, a descendant of one of their ancestral spirits who will one day return to live among them. until then they're just hoping he might show up in june for his 89th birthday. >> back to you. coming up, one man's mission to stop us from eating all that fatty food, celebrity chef jamie oliver is here after the break. and see what you find. if perfection is what you pursue, this just might change your course. meet the new class of world class. the twenty-ten lacrosse, from buick. may the best car win.

celebrity chef jamie oliver is out to start a revolution. angry that obesity is literally killing our kids, promising them

shorter life spans than our own, he is taking aim at america's bad eating habits with a new abc reality series. it's set in huntington, west virginia, also known as america's unhealthiest city. and it's called "jamie oliver's food revolution." jamie joins me right now talk about it. good to have you here. >> hello, madam. >> why west virginia? >> first of all, there is no date that that says any town is the most unhealthy. but we did go to the tri-state area and in that area the biggest metropolitan area was huntington. we really wanted to go to the eye of the storm of the government statistics, the cdc report for disease. and without question, you know, this area has suffered greatly over the last number of years for all the kind of big hitters -- heart disease, diabetes, obesity, et cetera, et cetera. so that's kind of where i set up camp, really. and my job was really to understand the problem, try and fix it, and see what needed to

be done. and try and become to a part of the community really. >> it's a nationwide problem. >> that's an interesting thing. >> what is it about us, though, as americans? >> it's not just you. i come from england and we've got the same problems. england is the most unhealthy country in europe. america as far as i know in the world. undoubtedly we both got problems. and it's all about control. and neither of our health systems can cope. at the moment $150 million a year is spent on obesity alone. and in the next year it's set to double. it's big numbers, big cash. but most importantly what i wanted to do i suppose is get off the statistics and put life, heart, soul, and people behind it. that's why i went to this community, to stay and live with families and understand really what is happening. >> and i want to show people a little -- a few clips from the show. in the series, in one part of it, you go to this local elementary school. >> yes. >> and you spend time working with cooks in the school

cafeteria. i want people to take a look. >> chicken breast is the first ingredient here. >> do you not question any of that stuff? >> what's wrong with that? >> what's right with that? would you eat that? >> yes, i think it's good. >> and this list of ingredients doesn't bother you in the slightest? >> not in the slightest. >> it doesn't bother me that adults eat it. it bothers me that kids eat it. >> i don't have a problem with this food. i really don't. i know there is preservatives. make a salad mix. it takes two seconds. >> not for 450 people. >> it does. >> didn't go so well. did you imagine you were going to meet this kind of resistance? >> yeah. >> yeah, you did. >> i've been doing this for seven years. this is something that i care deeply about. this is something socially wrong with both of our countries. most of the controllers of the food industry, you know, really have the dollar and the pound way before our kids. >> so how do you change it if

there is this resistance to it? >> build relationships, that good old things, break bread, build relationships, hang around. don't go when times are tough. spend time with people. work with families, and try and make people's lives better. >> but if the schools don't want to change. that's what that felt like to me. >> look, and enlisting the rest of the gang in the school run a tight ship. they're very proficient at their job. i would never take that away from them. and actually while i'm talking about it, the school cooks of america do an incredible job. they work hard. but over the last 30 years, the amount of support, equipment, and kind of manpower they've got has obviously reduced. and as far as alice is concerned, she had been doing what she is doing for 21 years. there hasn't been fresh meat in the kitchen for 18 years. and then this english guy shows up and says don't rao really like this, and pizza for breakfast and there is as much sugar in the milk as there is in

a can of pop. and i took it all apart like a jigsaw and said right, you're mine for the next week. and they didn't like that. i don't blame them. but at the same time, yes, you need to make change. >> at one point the school administration tells you that the food costs have doubled since you arrived. so i guess here is the other challenge. >> incorrect. >> it wasn't? >> totally incorrect. >> the school can't afford to make the changes. >> you've got a lot of very annoying bureaucrats and pen pushers that start there is a load of -- there is loads of separate incidents which had nothing to do with the actual food that ended up on the plate. and one of the things that has happened, basically what we're saying is you can get the fresh food for just about the same money, although it's tight. but the thing that we can't really express for is you get one lunch cook per 105 children. so you've got 160 children, you only get one and a half cooks. and when you get one and a half

cooks, it's turning that into a second cook the full day is costing extra dollars a day. and that's the extra cost. at the same time, it's still extra money. so that is right in some respects, but not in the food. but my problem is that's the real cost of cooking for your kids. and, you know, i don't think this is a moment in america's history where they can afford not to take where the children go for 180 days of the year from the age of 4 to 16 or 18 seriously. >> right. >> a lot of these kids are having breakfast and lunch as well. >> i know there is something else that i think a lot of people are going to find very surprising here, and it's how much our kids know or really don't know, frankly, about healthy foods. let's watch this clip. >> who knows what this is? >> potatoes. >> so you think these are potatoes? not potatoes. >> i don't know. >> do you know what it is? >> no?

who knows what tomato ketchup is. yes, that's what it's made out of? >> oh, tomato ketchup? i know that one. >> the test i did with the kids today is shocking. do you know what that? is? >> broccoli. >> a good ol' friend. do you know what this is, honey? >> onion? >> no. immediately you get a really clear sense do the kids know anything about where food comes from. who knows what that is? >> a pear? >> a pear? no. >> a turnip? >> i'm going give you the first word. >> egg. >> egg salad? >> the answer today was no. >> that's mind-blowing. so who is to blame? aren't parents the culprit when you see something like that? >> well, you could blame the parents, but then i would say you can't really blame the parents because they grew up in an environment where they weren't taught to cook at home or at school. so since when can we blame people that were never armed with the life skills to be

parents? we've got three generations of people in england and america that largely never learned to cook at home or at school. so i guess why i'm pushing this, you know, even in not my own country. i've done stuff in my own country. and i feel like i've got hindsight on my side. but also i think this is a very interesting time in america right now. of course you've got the health care stuff going on. michelle obama is pushing through a fairly serious bit of work for congress at the moment. i think it's worry in times as well. you're going to have congress, you know, they're talking about $4.5 billion being spread over ten years to go into this plan of reforming, you know, this nutrition and health of the young kids. but that's -- that's nowhere near enough. not even a year. to put that in context, $7 billion is spent a month in afghanistan. and we're talking about a fraction of that. and that's a month, by the way. >> when we come back, more with jamie oliver and what is wrong

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>> i want to show one more clip, and this is a very striking moment when you show this mom all the bad foods that she has fed her family over the week. take a look. >> that is what is going to kill their kids at an early age. any salad at all in the house? >> no. >> i notice it's all the same colors, gold and brown. >> that's what you pay attention to. >> excuse me, just a minute, what is going on here? >> snacks. >> i love pizzas. i love burgers. but they're not even good pizzas. it's a load of rubbish. i want to get everything in the middle now. here is your breakfasts. there is those bloody corn dogs. >> wow. >> jamie was dumping the food on the table. it was like stunning. >> you tell me how you feel looking at this. >> it's gross. >> let's have a talk. this stuff goes through you and your family's body every week.

and i need you to know that this is going to kill your children early. we're talking about 10, 13, 14 years off their life. >> yes. >> and you know that? >> so it's a really emotional moment for her. >> it's really emotional. >> it's not just the families in huntington, west virginia where the show is set. >> no. >> but it is around the country. and you were talking about the times we're living in right now. and people are struggling economically. and i think they're going to find in many cases that this is a big mountain to climb. how optimistic are you? >> i'm very optimistic. let's get a few things really clear here. you know, there has been some amazing uplift in sort of more unusual ingredients at the moment because of the recession, which is a good thing. people going back to sort of crop cooking, slow cooking, the

cheaper cuts of meat. that's the people who can cook. here's the thing. if you don't know how to cook, a handful of things, then you can't be quick at cooking, and you can't save money. if you can't cook, your options are the same as everyone else that has the problems. so that's why everything that i do comes down to cooking. the minute that you can cook four, five, six different things, then you have the ability to cook quick food and cheap food. cooks don't care if they've go got $50, $30, $20 or $5. because the best food in the world has always and will always probably come from the poorest communities. that can cook. constantly, you know, every problem i come up against is always about well let me teach you to cook. and then they can kind of cook their way out of it. and i've truly, and i've seen it time and time again. >> well, it's a great show from what i've seen. jamie oliver, it's so good to have you here. >> thank you. >> i really appreciate