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festival in the french quarter in new orleans. police are now looking for two gunmen. they say these two are still out on the loose. they say the intended target was a 17-year-old e was shot in the chest and is now in stable condition but six other people shot. among them was another, a teenager, 15-year-old. the other six bystanders are expected to survive. now time to hand it off to candy crowley. good morning from jackson square in new orleans. the republican party envisions a comeback of historic proportions. >> we have a chance in the next three years to fundamentally reset american government and american politics, i think, for the first time since 1932. >> reporter: they are invigorated by the takeover of ted kennedy's senate seat and
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fueled by the hottest ticket in politics. >> what's wrong with being the party of no? we will oppose it or better said by the government of this state, the party of no, no, we are the party of hell, no. >> reporter: they came on the weekend of the french quarter festival. five years after new orleans near-death experience, they too envision a comeback of historic proportions, a comeback chronicled in a television series that premieres tonight. produced by the creator of the acclaimed series "the wire." >> the levees weren't long, the floodgates failed, the canal walls failed. all of which were supposedly built to withstand a much better. >> reporter: for republicans and new orleans, great expectations with many hurdles. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union."
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this morning, we begin with governor haley barber, the man who led the republican party the last time he captured the house and senate. and a close look at the woman who has become the most electrifying. why a major television series about a disaster? all from new orleans. >> reporter: now, the chairman of the republican governor association, haley barber, mississippi. we met him in the patio of a french quarter restaurant, "broussard's." a lot is we have heard is about how good it looks for republicans this november. >> the political environment for republicans this first half of april, 2010, is better than it was the first half of april, 1994, when we won 54 seats in the house, took control of the
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house, the senate and more than 30 governor ships. >> reporter: are you going to take control of the house and senate? >> the problem is that the election is not today. today is the environment is better than '94. it developed in a little bit different way. the people in this country are very agitated, republicans are energized and independents are talking like, thinking like, and planning to vote like republicans. >> reporter: the governor is going to stick with us for the next several moments. we want to take a quick break. we will be back with more on politics and the governor from mississippi. [ male announcer ] parents magazine and edmunds.com called it "one of the best family cars of 2009." the insurance institute for highway safety calls it a 2010 top safety pick. we call it peace of mind.
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who is one of the most liberal members of the supreme court. some feel like he has been the leader of the left wing of the supreme court in recent years. >> but the president goaets to that? >> everybody here understands that the president will appoint the most liberal person he can to get confirmed. that person will be a liberal. that's just a fact. do i think it will affect the election? only to the sense that it reminds the american people of something they already know, that this is far and away the most liberal administration that we have ever had in the white house and candidly in the congress. >> reporter: so you see that they can use that? obviously, it will be done by november but this has always been a big rallying cry, i think, to get people to the polls, particularly republicans? >> for both sides. the proabortion people have seussed the supreme court to stoke up their supporters.
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the conservatives going back to earl warren have made it a call for trying to energize their people. the good thing for republicans right now, we have plenty of energy. the policies of this administration and congress has energized our people. >> reporter: what's the smart thing to do for the senate? do they push back no matter who this nominee is or does that make them look more like the party of "no" that the democrats are trying to hang on to? >> i am not worried about the party of no as long as we are saying no to what the american people know are bad policies. they will reward you for trying to stop something they think is bad. in this case, we know it is going to be a liberal. you can't see side what your reaction or response is going to be until they are nominated. >> reporter: one of the opening day speakers here was former congressman, newt begin ricging want you to listen to what he had to say. >> the president of the united states, the most radical president in american history.
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>> to a degree. is he talking about the most left wing, most left wing policies that has been pursued, there is no question. that's correct. >> reporter: what in general? what makes this a radical president? >> the most left wing is about spendi spending. he has proposed a $3.8 trillion budget. the whole budget in 1997 when newt gingrich was speaker of the house, wasn't but $1.6 trillion. they are proposing $1.3 tril deficit in the first three years of the obama administration. >> reporter: a lot of that came from george w. bush? >> about $400 billion of it. the other trillion -- candy, it is hard for us normal people to talk about trillions. they are spending trillions and
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trillions and trillions. this health care bill is going to be an enormously expensive proposal. everybody in america knows it is not going to be budget neutral. >> one of the things that i think that catches people's ear is the word radical. is that helpful to the kind of dialogue that should be in politics? is it helpful to republicans that still fight the image of being mean old white guys? >> my life in politics, i have always told people to speak temper ratley and act boldly. radical is not a term that i use very often to describe anything. there is no question that the policies being pursued by the obama administration are the farthest left. it has been a gigantic lurch to
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the left. the words i would use are the most left wing, because that's what the truth is. >> reporter: let me ask you about something else, just kind of tone of politics. virginia governor, new vo vo governor, bob mcdonnel designated april as confederate month. something his two democratic predecessors had refrained from doing. he did not mention slavery in this proclamation. was that a mistake? >> i don't think so. my state legislature has made a legislatively enacted holiday, con federal rat member or yad holiday. i have issued a proclamation. my democratic predecessors did so as well. i don't know what you would say about slavery but if you have to explain to people that slavery is a bad thing, i think it goes without saying. >> reporter: but the sensitivity of it. we heard from a number of
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african-american politicians and just people on the street that were interviewnd virginia going, this is offensive, to celebrate something that really was about slavery and have absolutely no mention of it. >> maybe they should talk about the democratic legislature, which has done exactly the same thing in mississippi for years. as far as i know, the democratic legislature, the majority of both houses are democrats, i am unaware of them being criticized for it or having their supporters feel unfom court believe with it. >> reporter: you know what i am trying to get at. there is a sort of feeling that it is insensitive. you don't agree? >> it is a feeling that it is a anytime. it is not significant. it is trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to a diddly. >> reporter: i wanted to ask you about health care reform, which you mentioned a little earlier. part of this is going to include
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an expansion of medicaid. how are you going to pay for that in mississippi? >> that's the problem. if, in fact, this becomes law and goes into effect out in the four, five years from now, when it is supposed to go into effect, it is going to cost mississippi state government $150 million to $250 million minimum. we don't have that money. >> reporter: will you have to raise taxes? >> a tax increase on the people of mississippi and virtually every other state. states like california, in the billions of dollars per year. for us, a couple hundred million dollars a year. the fact is, we don't have the money. expanding medicaid -- we have to expand it by about 50%. we are going to go from 650,000 people on medicaid to more than 1 million people on medicaid. d candidly, candy, if somebody had proposed last year, hey, i got a great idea, let's put about 15
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million people on medicaid, what would the american people have said? that's the craze yest idea i ever heard of. medicaid is always in financial trouble. it is not like government -- it is not like the federal employees health benefit plan, i can tell you that. >> reporter: what's the most real is stick way? you have joined forces with those that think, we are going to go to court on this. we think it is unconstitutional. is that the way to go at it or is it more like senator mcconnell who says this is about repeal and replace. so many people have said, this lawsuit is going nowhere? >> there are those of us in a number of states that believe the constitution when it says, limited government, that the powers of the federal government are limited by the constitution. there is nothing in the constitution, including in the commerce clause, that gives the federal government the power to force individual citizens to buy any product, a product called
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health insurance that has to be designed just like the federal government wants or any other products. suppose, candy, that we conservatives said, everybody in america needs to buy a gun because national security and homeland security would be clearly better if our policy was adopted. that's the policy, you have to buy a gun. what would the liberals say to that? >> reporter: i know that you have said that you are not going to criticize michael steele. you, yourself, were in his position during a very advantageous time for republicans, last time they won the full house and the senate. do you think looking at the situation around michael steele that he can survive as head of the party? >> i expect him to be head of the party for the rest of his term? >> reporter: not just let's keep him through his election and at the end he ought to go. >> his term ends in january of next year. i was chairman of the rnc.
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i served two, two-year terms. there are people critical of me. that's part of it. but, no, i expect that michael steele will serve out his term. >> reporter: one of the things that the chairman said when he was talking on another network was that he thought he was being held to a higher standard because he is black? do you think that is true? >> no. that's like me saying i think i am held to a higher standard because i'm a fat redneck with an accent like this. the fact of the matter is, people in that job are just about results. that's the way it is. i do think it is not right for a former chairman to critique his predecessors, his successors. i don't think that is something that i ought to do. i kind of feel the same way that president reagan was about future presidents. he just didn't think it was right for him to critique them
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or criticize them. >> reporter: what about sarah palin? she electrified this conference. when you look outside of the toe tallity of the country, she really stirring up a lot of negative emotions as well. do you think she is qualified to be president right now? do you think she has the background and experience if they does sflun. >> i didn't think president obama had the background or experience to be qualified. the fact of the matter is, she is legally qualified. after that, it is up to the american people, just like it was for senator obama, now president obama. >> reporter: have you ever felt this sort of angry, kind of country that we now -- you can feel it when you are out there. i think you see if with -- on both the left and the right. is this reminiscent to you of any period in time that you have lived through as a politician? >> yes. there is a history in this country of people being
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vehement, sometimes to the point of being terrible, awful, stupid. that's gone on long before haley barbour is around. people are scared, more than any time i have seen in my political roar rear. they are scared that the policies in this administration and congress are going to keep their children and grandchildren from having the opportunities they had. people are generally scared of that. that is no excuse for being uncivil. >> reporter: it seems unusual to come to louisiana to talk to the governor of mississippi. >> it was tough to be here without a bloody mary. i'll tell you that. >> reporter: let me see what i can do. thank you very much. >> thank you, candy. up next, the palin factor. in brief, republicans here are crazy about her. let's get chinese
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they are feeling awful liz good going into the 2010 elections. republicans believe the numbers are on their side. since the mccain/palin defeat, a low point for republicans. the party has made a slow, steady turnaround where the number of americans who view the gop favorably matches the number who view it unfavorably. the percentage of americans that believe that republicans would be better at handling the economy than democrats has gone up nine points. in october, democrats had an edge on voters chase for congress. gone now because of a significant shift in independence. six months ago, independent voters were evenly split between
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democrats and republicans. today, the indys lean heavily toward the republicans, 53-35.
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there were plenty of potential 2012ers who showed up at this new orleans republican meeting. there was only one belle of the ball, one with really sharp elbows. >> the governor, sarah palin. >> reporter: there is something about sarah that keeps conservatives on their feet and her name in the headlines. maybe it is that cheery defines. >> when they say, yes, we can. we stand up and we say, oh, no, you don't. >> reporter: especially when it comes to the president who recently dismissed her credentials to criticize his
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nuclear weapons policy. >> if the secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff are comfortable with it, i'm probably going to take my advice from them and not from sarah palin. >> now, the president, with all the vast nuclear experience that he acquired as a community organizer and as a part-time senator, and as a full-time candidate, all that experience, still no accomplishment to date with north korea and iran. >> reporter: in the hallways outside the main ballroom, we cornered republican players about the hottest ticket in the party. >> i think they are looking for somebody who can say, yes, i will stand up and fight against these bad policies and who is committed to putting the right policies into place. >> whether that translates later into something bigger or whether she is a very significant person for the rest of her life, she is a real player.
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>> americans are tired of milquetoast. >> she has had more impact as an unelected person than anybody i have seen. >> reporter: her disstrak tors call her rapid, naive, inexperienced. she responds with that in your face defines. >> democracy depends on you. that is why our p troops are willing to die for you. so, how about in mhonor of the american soldier, you quit making things up? >>. >> reporter: supporters dismissed her criticism as a fa failure to understand. >> some made the comment that she is an authentic product of alaska, a frontier person, more than a suburban person. i think if you are a san francisco liberal, she just drives you crazy, because she is clearly a total feminist, in the
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true sense of feminism. she is her own person. she does her own thing. she does it her way. it's just she does it in a way that if you are part of the liberal elite, it is everything that you have tried to leave. >> real people understand that if someone with as many kids as she has and has such a normal life that she had can step into the arena, can get engaged, she gives them a road map. it is about something bigger than her. i think the press tends to think of it as some cult following. it is not. it is, a, she can do it, i can do it, it's an inspiration thing. it really, really transcends her. she is the road map. she is the mom who did it. >> there is a me too when she is talking, when she has presented herself. i think what she did in alaska, i think there is kind of a "me too" about her that people, good, bad, or indifferent, they
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after tina fey's saturday night pair owedies and a fumbled interview, doubt slipped in. her favorable, 46%. her negatives surpassed the positives. july, 2009, people's impression eroded down to 40%. after hitting the trail to sell her book by march, 2010, while throngs of conservatives hung on her every word, the general public was less enthused. 37% of americans see sarah palin favorably. love her or hate her, a couple of figures only add to her mystique. 12 and 2.2 million. that's the number of weeks "going rogue" was on "the new york times" best-seller list and the number of copies sold. hi, we're the campbells.
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not many people bet that sarah palin would fade away after the election. she didn't. >> let's empower states to find the best solutions. they need flexibilities. they need respect for the 10th amendment too. they need the flexibility to see what looks best but shoot, look at texas. i said shoot. i'm sorry. >> sh >> she is a politician that crossed into the celebrity zone. creating her own public space with maximum exposure. she has a lucrative and safe role as a fox news commentator. she has put her brand on real american stories, tales of trials and triumph thumbs' down from the eastern media.
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"the new york times" says her performance was as cheery and bland as any news anchors in the mainstream media she deplores. give it five minutes and it will evaporate flight front of your eyes says "time" magazine. the normal fox news has reported to have doubled. she plans to host eight specials an sarah palin's alaska for discoveries tlc channel. scripted, safe. to her appearance before adoring party activists, anxious to get her autograph and feed off her electricity. does palin need the party as much as the party needs palin? is she out to make money or change? does she want to live as a private citizen or run for president? what next for sarah palin. >> what she has been doing, her role has been and she has been very impactful at it, asserting base principles that are at the heart of constitutional conservatism.
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she knows how to say them in ways that people understand and can repeat them. >> there are people out there who politically attack her, because they are afraid of her. they are afraid she is a powerful force. the easiest and best way to get rid of someone you are afraid of is to destroy them. >> reporter: let's say she says, look, no, i'm not interested in 2012, what's her role? >> some people manage by ideas, by energy, by drive, by charisma. teddy kennedy lost to jimmy carter in 1980. yet teddy was for 30 years, one of the dominant figures in the democratic party i think she has the potential to fill a niche for a very long time, particularly in an age of cable television and talk radio when you can build your particular market and your awed yiudience. they can love you and come to your meetings and do things with you. the last couple of months, i think she has been very impressive. >> do you think she will run in 2012?
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>> it's my guess. it's everybody's guess. i honestly don't -- personal opinion, way too early. if you are asking me today to make a decision, you know, 2 1/2 years down the road, which is virtually impossible to do but if you are twisting my arm to say, give me a yes or no answer, i say no. the reason i don't think she will, i think she has, and this is just my personal opinion, i think she has positioned herself to be a kingmaker, probably not the king. >> reporter: would she be a worthy opponent? >> if my choice was sarah palin or barack obama, i would rather have sarah palin. >> reporter: just for giggles, we report to you the results of the straw pole of 1800 activists here at the this conference. the presidential preference winner is the man who wasn't there, former massachusetts
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governor, mitt romney. romney and just behind romney by one vote, congressman, ron paul, triumphs of organization over celebrity. it was palin coming in third overall with gingrich nine votes behind wechlt didn't want to leave the sarah palin subject without sharing some of saturday night live. >> it seemed like the next logical step was to launch my own network. if you like fun, you are going to love our afternoon block of game shows. at 2:00 p.m., tea party wheel of fortune. at 2:30, catch me in "are you smarter than a half-turned governor." i think you will be surprised by the answer. i know i was. >> reporter: up next, our discussion with an actor and the creator of a powerful new hbo
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five years ago, president bush stood here in jackson square and promised that the nation would help rebuild new orleans. he used the symbolism of a jazz funeral. >> the funeral procession parades slowly through the streets followed by a band playing a warm durnlg as it move to the cemetery. once the casket is laid into place, a second line symbol eyeses the triumph of the spirit over death. tonight, the gulf coast is still coming through the de arch. >> reporter: approaching the fifth anniversary sof katrina,
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hearts of the brutalized ninth war are a long way away from rebimt. >> reporter: tonight, the television premier of "trema" begins with the second line. it looks largely through it's musicians. they refuse to give up on a city that has a unique culture and tradition. a number of the actors are new orleans nay tifs. the series captures the pain of starting again. >> i can't stay here, daddy. i hate this. why do we even -- >> reporter: clark peters plays albert labro whose grown children are begging him to give up on new orleans. the series focuses on some of
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the poorer areas of the city. shooting is still continuing for later episodes. we caught up with the creator, david simon and actor, wendell pierce, in the french quarter. i wanted to start out with something that i read a quote from you. "either we have something to say or we don't." what do you have to say with trema? >> it is about culture. the last show, "the wire, was about how power and money route themselves in an american city. this is about what we are capable of as an urban people. we are only going to get more urban as the century goes on. we are very am biffle lent about that. there is a lot of negative. maybe i am part of that with "the wire." that was not my intent. there is a lot of negative con know nations associated with city living. that's the question for the next 20th century, how we are going to live together. new orleans is the triumph of
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the creole, we are the mutts, the beautifully miss edge nated people who are americans. new orleans is a triumph in that sense. >> reporter: if you are not from new orleans and much of the country has moved on from katrina, what is in this that brings you to this series? >> well, as david was saying, the culture of new orleans is something that is a part of our daily lives, more than any other place that i have been. i have lived here in new orleans, new york and los angeles. when we ask about our day, how was your day? the response was, it was pretty good. we had red beans for lunch. we are going to have some baked chicken and shrimp creole and a little later on, i am going to hear john boute on frenchman's street. so it is going to be a good day.
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it is on the front burner of our lives. it is very impactful. when you understand that culture is the intercession between people and how they deal with life, that's the place where we reflect on our past, hope for our future, then you understand its importance, what thoughts are to an individual. that's what culture should be for a community as a whole. i think we in new orleans understand that. america can learn a lesson from us. >> david, there is a scene in the movie where the british reporter is talking about why should we care about new orleans. >> why should the american taxpayer foot the bill to fix new orleans? >> when don't we rebuild our great cities. >> reporter: let's say new orleans was once the great city. >> are you saying new orleans is not a great city, a sutty that lives in the imagination of the world? >> reporter: i suppose if you are a fan of the music, which has rather seen its day or the
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food, a cuisine which many would say is typically american, too fat, too rich. it has its advocates. what about the rest of the country? >> preven shall, passe. what are you doing down here, you slimy vulture -- >> john goodman was speak forg a lot of new orleanians. since that moment and the federal response to it has been so meager and so grudging and there have been so many comments from around the country about why rebuild new orleans, it is below sea level, isn't it?
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great societies rebuild their great cities. the response has left nor lynnians looking at the rest of the country in a different light. culture is what brought this doun to town back, culture. one crawfish at a time. one st. joseph night of mardi gras indians at the time. >> we understand the pleasure. we all know how to dance, party, drink and have a good time. the social aid part is very important. that was the beginning of activism. the beginning of the civil rights movement. denied people of color to buy burial plots or get insurance. we put together social aids and clubs where if your mama took ill, we gotcha. that's the understanding of where the culture comes from and
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how it plays an impact full part of everyday life that no one knows about or talks about in america. >> reporter: let me ask you about politics and drama. which of those when you begin to formulate this is the dominant feature? >> you begin with character and a place and an idea of a story to tell. everything is strained through politics. life is politics. ultimately, the trick to doing television at least the way we want to do it is not to decide we want to get a franchise up because there is money but to actually have something to say. this piece is making an argument for the city. that is in distinct opposition to one particular political party that is in new orleans today. that's why you are here. i sat at home and watched the republican convention during the last election. all ta talk about small town
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values and the real americans, you know, i live in baltimore. i'm concerned with big city values, because more than 80% of the country lives in metro areas. that eversejeffersonian ideal, never coming back. we need to figure out how to live together in cities compacted, aull of us very different from different cultures and races and persuasions or we ain't going to make it. that's the argument that new orleans has been making. >> is there a monopoly on those values? we looked around two years ago and said, nobody is coming. if we don't do it ourselves, it won't happen. >> there is a lot going wrong. people are resistant to the idea of giving up on this city.
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the city is their life in a lot of ways. there are more people here that feel that way about their city than anywhere in america. it is remarkable, the individual commitment to the urban life pl. and it argues for something better. it deserves something better. >> that in spite of the struggle, there's hope. and it hasn't killed the spirit. we understand that will give way to joy and success and renewal. >> wendell pierce and david simon. coming up a quick check of today's headlines, then pierce on the powerful role music plays here in new orleans. uh-huh. yeah. fashion deficient. and tom... copy incapable. it's open kimono time. looking good, dan. oh, we want to make sure all our ducks in a row. yeah. volume control syndrome. but we focus on the talent and skill that each person... brings to the team. i mean, no one's really concerned about labels. not even mine.
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republican activists flocked here to new or leans from across the country with visions of victory dancing in their heads. the last thing they wanted was
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anything or anyone to ruin that vibe. still there were questions about michael steelen the wake of an embarrassing scandal centered on a nightclub, there's some doubt he's the right man to lead the party into november's mid terms. steele was the last speaker at this conference, making headlines, admitting everyone knows, perfect he's not. >> i'm the first here to admit i've made mistakes, i'm to shoulder that burden, make the necessary changes and move on. >> let's check in now with richard louie in atlantat for some top stories. >>ed body of polish president lech kaczynski arrived in warsaw a short while ago. kaczynski and his wife were among the 97 people killed in a
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plane crash in western russia yesterday. thousands of people lined the streets to catch a glimpse of the coffin as it made its way to the presidential palace. there's been a 6.8 magnitude earthquake in the south pacific. there are no immediate reports of damage and experts do not expect a tsunami there. the solomon islands are located along the so-called ring of fire, an arc of earthquake in volcanic zones around the pacific rim. and astronauts working on the international space station this morning overcame technical difficulties as they performed the second spacewalk in three days, both needing extra elbow grease to loosen some bolts. more from candy crowley and "state of the union" after this.
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fareed zakaria is next, first or american dispatch. new orleans is a city best known for its culture, cuisine and music. this week that's where we end. ♪ we really like wendell pierce's description of the role of music in new orleans. >> the whole music aesthetic here is tied into the whole b e blues aesthetic and blues idium. ♪ in spite of struggle, there will be triumph.