>> larry: tonight, "family guy" creator seth macfarlane. >> i want you to meet your family. >> you're my family. >> larry: his twisted, dysfunctional, perverse take on mom, dad and the kids made him hollywood's $100 million man. the highest paid writer in television and only in his 30s. he's an equal opportunity offender. >> those americans. >> larry: christians, gays, sarah palin, you name it, nothing, no one off limits. >> i met larry king. >> name dropper. >> larry: cruel or cool? wicked or wonderful? seth macfarlane next. >> you know, today started as a

really nice outing but as usual you had to ruin it. >> larry: on "larry king live." that is funny stuff. by the way, we have a group, a gang of nice-looking people here in the studio from the pacific ridge school in carlsbad, california. all high school students all as fans of our special guest seth macfarlane, there they are. hee's the emmy-winner and voiced many of the characters he created. the 150th episode of "family guy" may 2nd on fox. here's a sneak peek. >> well, come on. you don't know how to use that thing. >> really? what if i hold it sideways like a black guy.

>> i don't want any trouble. >> there's not going to be any trouble if you eat my poo. >> that is not happening. >> then i'll be forced to shoot you. >> there's east no bullets. >> then i'll shoot you. >> i will. i'll blow your [ bleep ] head off. >> larry: you know, you are sick. >> yes, yes. i have a lot of problems. >> larry: how did all this start for you? you were a cartoonist? >> yeah. i was -- you know, i had been drawing cartoons since i was about 2 years old. my parents have woody woodpeckers and fred flintstones from way, way, way back and my first job was doing a cartoon, a weekly strip for the local, small town paper when i was about 9 years old and paid me five bucks a week to do one cartoon a week. >> larry: first a cartoonist? >> yeah, yeah. i didn't fall into writing until much later. i had -- i was pretty hell bent

on getting into the cartoon business specifically as an artist from the get-go. >> larry: why television? simpsons affected you. >> yeah. well, it wasn't always television. when disney had their resurgence in the late '80s, early '90s -- >> larry: we are showing drawings of when you were 10 years old. >> walter crew on the. like all 10-year-olds i was really into walter cronkite. you know, i wanted to work for disney for a long time. you know, when they had the resurgence with "the little mermaid" and "beauty and the beast" and i thought this is what i want to do and then "the simpsons" came along and kind of rewrote the landscape of animation. >> larry: you hardly fit disney. >> yeah, probably good -- it is good that didn't happen. >> larry: that clip we showed is unusual episode, basically one setting. a locked bank vault, two characters. you voice both of them. is that hard to do? >> it's gotten easy. believe it or not.

there are things that are hard about the series. that's strangely an easy thing. and when we do our table reads, i have to sort of jump back and forth from this guy and back to this guy and it is -- it's become almost second nature because i know the characters so well at this point. initially it was a bit of a challenge but it's now it's second nature. >> larry: what was your first hit? first hit show was -- >> well, it was "family guy." i wrote for a show called "johnny bravo" on cartoon network that aired for a few years and sort of a cult hit in its own and "family guy" was, you know, my first. some would say only hit. >> larry: well, cleveland's pretty good but that's a jute shoot.

>> yeah. >> larry: you took "the simpsons" and went raw, right? >> yeah. i mean, you try to take what's good about your predecessors and take it to the next level. i think there's, you know, originalalty is important and at the same time when "all in the family" there were a lot of great shows that followed that were taken a cue from that show. look how well they did this. this is new. let's do more versions of this. >> larry: do you think to yourself, i'm gutsy? >> not -- not really. i guess maybe that makes me a little desensitized but -- >> larry: there's no limit on you, is there? >> there is. we have long extended conversations about what we should or should not do. >> larry: give me a topic you turn down. >> if something is a recent tragedy of some kind. >> larry: death. >> we won't touch it. yeah, yeah. if there's a recent plane crash,

we won't make a joke about it. >> larry: wait a month? >> yeah. you beat me to the joke, larry. >> larry: okay. get this. adequate familily guy" debuts after the 1999 super bowl and includes a scene of peter griffin watching philadelphia. that tragic movie about a gay. >> yeah. >> larry: he thinks it's a comedy and laughs when tom hanks' character announces he has aids. >> yep. >> larry: from what mind came -- >> there's a certain type of new englander that i grew up with. i knew a lot of these guys who -- their hearts were in the right place but they weren't the most critical, the most in depth thinkers out there and, you know, peter griffin embodies that type of guy. and in his mind, everything that he had seen tom hanks in up to that point was hilarious. so he was looking for the

comedy. he went to see "philadelphia" looking for the jokes. >> larry: when aids comes out, he cracks? >> yeah, yeah. he loses it. >> larry: that's just the beginning, folks. seth macfarlane's our guest. producer, writer, animator. he is everything. seth ticks off a lot of people. does he get any threats against him? next. you know, when i grow up, i'm going to own my own restaurant. i want to be a volunteer firefighter. when i grow up, i want to write a novel. i want to go on a road trip. when i grow up, i'm going to go there. i'm going to work with kids. i want to fix up old houses. [ female announcer ] at aarp we believe you're never done growing. i want to fall in love again. [ female announcer ] together we can discover the best of what's next at aarp.org.

♪ it seems today that all you see is violence in movies and sex on tv ♪ >> larry: brian and stue are overseeing things here tonight and that's scary because they're in the control room right now pushing buttons. look at this. if we are on the air, i'm not sure we're on. there they are. how did you come up with them? >> well, stue is -- >> larry: is what? >> believe it or not, the character is based on rex harrison of all people.

the character actor. my fair lady. agony and the ecstasy. he is a guy who just i found him very amusing when i was in high school and college. something very, very interesting about his mannerisms. >> larry: you take a lot of risks, obviously. >> yeah. >> larry: have you run into trouble? have you had threats? >> i have never had a death threat that i know of. a lot of the hate mail gets screened pretty much by fox. they kind of protect us. i have never received anything that's -- >> larry: fox is not known as a non political place. have you ever gotten flack from the murdoches? >> no. and i got to figure -- my theory, you know, all the years i have been there i never met rupert murdoch. my theory is the guy is a businessman first and a republican second. and if something with a distinctly liberal slant is

doing good for the company he is not going to step in and -- >> larry: money counts? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: an islamic group revolution muslim is warning that "south park" creators they could be killed because of the depiction of the prophet mohammed. they have taken on just about every faith and mocked osama bin laden in a historic piece. watch. >> this is a message to all american infidels. prepare to die in a sea of holy fire. you will be punished for your decadent ways on the first day of radaman. wait. wait a minute. what did i say? radaman. blah blah blah. ram dan. what is that? maybe dennis rodman will punish you with his crazy hair. no. what is that? right, right. yeah, no. okay. okay.

all right. let's go again. >> larry: do you get any flack on that? >> we didn't get any flack. i think probably the difference there is that bin laden is not a deity. >> larry: making fun of him. >> it struck us as kind of funny this very extreme situation set in the very mundane setting and has to do takes and can't not laugh. >> larry: did you ever get letters from the fcc? >> we have had a few what are called letters of inquiry i'm sure -- i don't know. i don't know if you had any run-ins. >> larry: a few in the past. what did you say and why did you say it? >> with ours, i think it was regarding an episode about the fcc. we did an episode in which peter goes up against the fcc and the fcc said can you please send us a copy of this? we were sitting there sweating bullets an they essentially called us back and said, we thought it was pretty funny.

>> larry: does fox ever blue pencil you? >> yeah. you mean, do they snip things out of the show? yeah, yeah. >> larry: curse words they snip. >> yeah. our show is -- is big enough on the dvd market that we do two versions these days. we do the bleeped version for air and we do essentially a director's cut of every episode for dvd so all the things we can't get on air are on the dvds. >> larry: you are an industry. >> i guess, yeah. yeah. that's enough to get me an ulcer. >> larry: earlier this year "family guy" took flack for which an episode he dated a group with downs syndrome. >> this rude all evening? you haven't asked me anything about myself. >> oh, um, sorry. what do you parents do? >> that's better. my dad is an accountant and my mom is the former governor of alaska. >> larry: okay.

now, understand. down syndrome -- >> oh, right. that episode. >> larry: a down syndrome girl did that? >> yes, yes. >> larry: you found someone? >> only way to do it is that the actress has to have downs syndrome. like the only way the episode is okay and has to be depicted as a dimensional character and said let's just make her just an incredibly domineering bitch. >> larry: sarah palin had a reaction. watch. >> so governor, what do you think? it's pretty nasty, is it not? >> this world is full of cruel, cold-hearted people to do such a thing. look. i look at trigg and he is going to face things as special needs children facing much more difficult than we ever will. why make it suffer on the special needs community? when is enough enough? when are we willing to say some things aren't really funny?

>> i agree with you. look, this guy macfarlane who did this is a hater. makes a lot of money for fox but i think there should be some standards, some time but apparently there aren't. >> larry: pot calling the kettle black. how did you rea tokt that? were you hurt? >> no, no. no way was i emotionally scarred. i was able to sleep well at night. >> larry: do you think you're a hater? >> i don't think so. i don't consider myself a hater. i -- i'm a fairly optimistic person. >> larry: do you think sarah's critic bared any merit? >> i actually do think, you know, as much as i disagree with just about everything that she stands for i do think at the end of the day probably to some degree -- i think it was part political, you know, partially politically motivated and part genuine. she is a mom.

she was probably ticked off on some level but what those percentages are i couldn't tell you. >> larry: terri schiavo the musical. we'll talk about it next with seth macfarlane.

you know, they say chuck norris is so tough there's no chin under his beard. there's only another fist that's ridiculous. >> chuck norris. >> i'm sure it will as well as liza minelli's "playboy" shoot. >> put your clothes back on. >> mama, mama, do you love me now, mama? >> ben stiller. help me. >> no, peter. i heard what you said about my movies. >> how did you hear? >> hello! >> hey, paris. i'm a friend of jesus'. check it out. i have a cool bag and it has a dog in it just like yours. >> i met larry king. >> name dropper! >> larry: should i be honored?

anyway. seth mcfarlane's our guest. his show provoked an outcry with a music about the late terri schiavo's. terry's brother bobby had this question for you. how do you justify using the term vegetable to describe any human being when its only intention is to dehupize and denigrate just like the "n" word? >> my first response would be it's not a human being, it is a cartoon. but you know, i think -- this is -- this was a touchy area because the idea was, keep in mind, this is a play within a play. and this is an instance where you see the griffin family in the audience reacting and in a way that is -- they themselves are a little pit off and we have done this a few times on the

show in which there's something that's done in extreme -- you know, one could argue questionable taste but you have to have somebody there reacting to that in a negative way and that's something we sort of tried to include with brian and chris sitting in the audience reacting wide eyed at this show. it is kids putting on a play. you know, whether the -- whether that term is denigrating is for the viewer to judge. >> larry: did you have second thoughts about it? >> we didn't because this was something that was exploited by the media long before we even got to it. this is an instance of something that was out there forever. i mean, it was -- it was all over the press everywhere.

and for an animated show like ours, i mean, that's what we do. not to comment on it in some way is, you know, that's just not how it operates. >> larry: do you always feel you're walking a line? >> yeah. you do. you don't want to be nasty for the sake of being nasty. i mean, if you are actually depicting, you know, for example, terri schiavo as opposed to a deliberately inappropriate kids play, then you have serious discussions, are we doing this -- is this just cruel and mean? there are a lot of those discussions that go on in the writer's room in a day-to-day basis. i think there's a vision of hollywood writers as a heed onistic bunch as a group to make their dough and do something there for shock value.

not the case. i mean, my writers most of them are married, they have children. there's a lot of discussions that we have within that room. is this funny enough? is it satirical enough it warrants the edge giness of the material. >> larry: must be a lot of jokes in the room. >> there are a few. >> larry: he almost was not here. he has a connection to 9/11, next. can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis. with two clinically proven dosing options, you can choose the moment that's right for you and your partner. 36-hour cialis and cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment's right. >> tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. >> don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. >> don't drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache, or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than 4 hours. >> if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, stop taking cialis and call your doctor right away. >> 36-hour cialis or cialis for daily use. ask your doctor if cialis is right for you.

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>> did you hear this awesome new song? ♪ [ speaking foreign language ] >> love it. >> love it. >> hate it. >> what? oh no. >> that's it. punch your baby in the face. >> larry: my kids love this show. they don't get it all the time. that's the purpose, right? >> that's deliberate. if we are doing our jobs right, it is the kind of thing where the parents can watch the show and get a laugh knowing exactly what we're talking about and it just goes over the kids' heads. >> larry: don't let them watch the dvds. >> i wouldn't. i wouldn't, no. >> larry: on 9/11 you were scheduled to be on american

airlines flight 11 from boston to l.a.. you didn't get on the plane. that plane went into the world trade center. someone tweeted this to kings things. does seth feel any kind of divine intervention over this narrow escape? what happened? >> i -- you know, i get asked that a lot, actually. it's -- i don't. no, i'm not a religious person. i do believe in coincidences. i think that's just that's -- they happen. i have missed a lot of flights before. about half of the flights that i was booked on prior to that flight i had missed because -- >> larry: you are that kind of person? >> yeah. i overslept or out too late the night before or whatnot so it -- you know, it was -- >> larry: where were you that

day? were you at the airport? >> i was in the lounge sleeping and woke up and there was a commotion and i walked in and it was -- >> larry: you had missed that plane? >> yeah. it was on television and i -- i said, my god, that's the flight that i was supposed to be booked on and my first thought was, we should all get out of this airport because they were just here and god knows if they left any -- left anything here at the airport so i -- you know, that -- >> larry: don't you feel, what, lucky? >> yes. very -- yes. very, very, very lucky. very, very fortunate. >> larry: someone get your ticket? >> that i do not know. you know? i have never investigated that. that would be a -- that would be a job for the press, i guess, to dig that one up. i have never looked into that. >> larry: nothing funny that day? >> nothing funny that day. no, no, no. you know what in 9/11 was something that -- that's an interesting example of something that you don't -- you got to pick just the right time to touch it in any kind of humorous way, even if you're making a comment, a satirical comment on the incident and there was a --

it was a long time before we felt it was okay and now it's, you know, now it's something that -- >> larry: mel brooks can do hitler. >> yeah, yeah exactly. >> larry: we'll be back with seth mcfarlane, the brilliant macfarlane and his characters. i feel overwhelmed here. i feel like they're around me. we'll even have a question coming from our high school gang after this.

♪ >> larry: there they are again. seth, brian and stue. they have taken over the control room. we're also welcoming students from pacific ridge school in carlsbad, california, as we mentioned earlier. they're watching our show in person tonight. and one of them, alex, has a question for seth. alex, go. >> will you do some of the voices of characters from "family guy"? >> larry: okay, yeah. let's see you do it. come on. that's a good question, alex.

here we go. name them and do it them. >> the cast of "one day at a time." i think that was the question. here we go. all right, all right. i'll bark like a seal for you, young man. okay. stue, quagmire. peter griffin, hello. it's me right behind there looking all tub by and of course brian. not changing a whole lot there. those are the big four and the main ones. >> larry: how about cleveland? >> cleveland, you know, i don't -- thank god i don't do the voice of cleveland. i don't have to perform. >> larry: are you brian? >> i am brian, yep. but yeah. cleveland is voiced by a very funny comedian that i went to college with. >> larry: do voices come easily to you? are you a mimic? >> yeah. i used to do impressions a lot as a kid and, you know, i was always kind of fascinated by dialects and whatnot. and there's -- >> larry: is the brian character you? >> in some ways, yes. in some ways. >> larry: some ways or more ways? >> yeah, yeah. he's -- >> larry: we have some tweet questions. i'll lay them on you. is baby stewe gay or bisexual? >> we haven't really decided. there was a bit of press that came out a while back in which stue was outed as being gay and

it was kind of taken out of context. it was in reference to an episode we thought we were going to do and then abandoned. we haven't made that decision yet because we get a lot of come eddic mileage out of both sides. >> larry: used to be on saturday night live. >> yeah. pat. >> larry: pat. >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: another question on our facebook page. will "family guy" ever come to the big screen? >> eventually, i can say almost with certainty that it will. it's -- you know, we all want to do it. fox wants to do it. it's just a matter of timing. when you -- >> larry: need to have a great story. >> yeah. we actually have a story that we -- >> larry: oh? >> we know what it's going to be.

the problem is doing an animated show tooks nine months to do each 22-month episode and no hiatus and just around the clock. when do you do the movie? that's the problem "the simpsons" had. they went 19, 20 years. we don't have time to do this. it's enough work on a weekly basis. >> larry: why did "the simpsons" work? >> you know, we were talking about jackie gleason in the break. i would say for the same reason they skld him in interviews why do "the honeymooners" work and he said because they were funny. i think at the core that's true of "the simpsons." i think it asks a lot of the audience, to be intelligent and to keep up and i think in comedy you always want to have your audience behind you and telling them to keep up. you don't want to chase them. >> larry:s a tweeted, ask seth to if he brings all the characters of all three cartoons together. >> yes. in the third "star wars" spoof we bring them all together and we have a hurricane night in which the same hurricane

basically blows through all three shows. in the same night and we have -- which is kind of an old sitcom tradition. >> larry: that is not done yet? >> not done yet but will happen and involve all three shows. >> larry: when you sit down, do all the writers sit together and say let's see now? >> yeah, yeah. the process of sitting that show, it's the same process that they wrote "the honeymooners." same process they wrote "the brady bunch." >> larry: you talk about the characters as if they were real? >> yeah. it is kind of a gray area. i mean, you do kind of get protective of these people. maybe not quagmire. we don't care what happens to him. but everyone else. >> larry: like him? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: he's a dote. >> yeah. there is -- there is a sense of -- you want to avoid what we call character assassination. that term is bantied about in the writer's room a bot and that just means is this something that makes peter so reprehencible that you're just never going to forgive him for

it? if he murders somebody. >> larry: thin line as norman leer had to do with archie bunker. had to be a side of him. >> what was key there and, you know, we take a lot of cues from norman leer is that as reprehencible as archie was in so many ways, every week you had ed it there who clearly loved him and she said it's okay to love him. >> larry: he loved her? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: what's appropriate? what isn't? who depends. we'll have two guests that join us next. >> ow. damn it, peter, stop it. >> ow. damn it, peter, stop it. you're pissing me off worse than when i watched the o.j. simpson verdict with my room mat.

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>> larry: seth macfarlane, the emmy winning creator of "the family guy" remains with us. it's his show tonight and joined by the supporting cast. penn gillette, he is the taller talkative half of penn and teller. they play at the rio in las vegas. they also have a serious called "bs" on showtime. rachel harris, actress and comedienne, one of the funniest movies "hangover quets and diary of a women pi kid and a correspondent on "the daily show." all right, guys. as we mentioned, the creators of "south park" are threatened with possible assassination because they show included a representation of the prophet mohammed. here's a clip from that episode. >> you said you wanted [ bleep ].

we got him for you. >> we have no way of knowing if [ bleep ] is really in there. it could be a trick. >> it is not a trick. >> then have him step out of the bear costume. you have until the count of ten. one. >> don't do it, randy. if [ bleep ] is seen we could get bob. >> idiot. if he isn't seen, we are definitely about to be bombed. >> all right, all right. stop. we are going to go what you say. >> i'm sorry, [ bleep ]. will you please step out of the bear costume? ♪ >> larry: okay. fair, unfair, funny, what? penn? >> well, i don't think we -- any of us can say anything about anything to do with islam.

i don't think you're allowed to say it. i think it's too daung rous and i think when people like matt and trey who are some of the best writers and the most talented people alive today are threatened like that, everybody should be very, very scared. it says nothing about matt and trey. it only speaks to islam lrks rach snell. >> wow. well, my opinion is a little bit different. i feel like -- well, first of all, the guy that is are watching the muslim revolution, right? i mean, if they're going to turn on "south park" and they're going to watch it, they should kind of know what they're getting into. it is not -- you know, it is as if -- >> larry: it is what it is? >> exactly. i feel like if you're going to watch the show --

>> i believe they believe the very existence of that is an affront to their religion. it is not a question of seeing it or taste, it is morality. isn't that what they're claiming? >> then they should go after every organization or comic that said anything and threatened to kill them. >> i think they plan to. >> right. but i -- >> larry: let's ask mr. macfarlane's thoughts. >> any combination of angry plus deity equals nuts equals danger. you know, the question becomes, at what point is it worth it? at what point is it worth it for them to put themselves at risk? is the joke so hilarious we want to risk our lives? if i was in that situation, i don't know how i would react. >> they have other ways. trey and matt can get laughs doing anything at all. they're the best among us so it's not a question of doing it for the laugh. there is a moral element to this. >> isn't also comedy central step in and kind of monkey around with that episode they were unaware of putting it on the air? >> there's no way to tell. i mean, if -- there's no way to know. if it were me and i was in the situation, it was like, well, do i -- again, is this worth getting shot?

>> right. >> is it the funniest joke anyone has written this? >> you think they knew that going in? >> i believe that information is in the quo ran. >> do you think they really thought that this would be something that would be -- that their life would get threatened? >> larry: why would they do something to threaten -- >> i think obviously wouldn't do it. >> i don't know about that. when you do something with a strong -- i mean, i think you cheapen matt and trey's morality, strength and courage when you say, is the joke worth it? because the question is, what is morally right? and as strong as the religious side is and believing what's morally right, matt and trey have the strongest moral compass i know an they're very, very good men -- >> let's not get -- >> i think it's true. it is a moral irks. >> larry: met get a break. we'll have more on sarah palin

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hold it. hold it. hold it. can we finish this discussion after joan of arcardia. >> is it on? is joan of arcardia on? >> yeah, thanks, peter. i didn't know human urine would cover my scent. >> larry: looking for something good to read? we have it on our blog. the incredible story of ray johnstone. he was a nba player one day and then in a coma the next and "secrets of a jewish mother." it's all on cnn.com/larry cans wing. i don't get that either. let's check in with anderson cooper. anderson? >> larry, the top of the program tonight, keeping them honest. in arizona, is arizona about to legalize racial profiling? it's what many people are saying there. supporters of the bill, however, saying that's ridiculous. the only way to control an immigration problem that's simply out of control. we'll have both sides tonight. also ahead, the big interview,

dennis quaid, two and a half years ago he nearly lost his newborn twins after doctors gave them the wrong medicine two weeks after they were born. they're okay today but he was on a crusade. all that plus the situation in the gulf of mexico gone from bad to worse. the oil rig sunk creating a five-mile oil slick. >> larry: that's anderson cooper 10:00 eastern/7:00 pacific. tea party movement. will you make fun of it yet? >> i think kind of does that on its own. >> larry: it is what it is? >> yeah. you know, the tea party movement is -- i always have a problem with people who say, you know what? time now to check back in with jack cafferty. hey, jack. >> the question this hour, how much should government be involved in things like wall

street, health care, and banks? david writes, corporations have been trying to pick our pockets but now gone to a whole new level. wall street uses high-speed computers to jump ahead of people like us to make their profits. banks use data mining to decide if you are get nothing financial trouble. insurance companies use algorithms to decide when to rescind your health coverage. even alan greenspan admitted he was wrong, thinking wall street and the banks were responsible enough to police themselves. if washington doesn't do it then we will be right back here in a few years. paul writes from ontario, there's little regulation of banks in the u.s. and last year, 140 of them failed there is regulation of banks in canada and none has failed. seems obvious which works better. chad in l.a. writes, i would argue the government has been very conservative with its involvement, just reactionary at best. government seems only to get involved after the industry has already screwed over the public in some way. from denying medical care to so many to diminishing 401 ks, foreclosures on so many homes, our government's only increased involvement after these industries have taken so much from the average citizen. trevor writes, regulate wall street, leave the rest to us. whenever government expands, liberty contracts.

tim in new york writes, what this administration wants to do is pretty mild. they are just putting guidelines back in after they have been taken down by the previous administration. a free market economy is good provided it doesn't extend into the criminal practices we have been subjected to. and ken says governments should not be involved in big business. the people running these companies are among the most honest you'll find, especially they're looking at the number of the people that are in. >> so the race that they are makes them racist by definition? >> well, no. i don't think they're racist. >> if you want to legitimatize them for a moment, you know, some of their gripes are

legitimate. the average american has not had a pay raise adjusted for inflation since 1973 while guys like us have gotten richer and richer. >> '73? >> but the problem is they're misdirecting it. it's always been fascinating to me that groups like this will direct their anger at the left. and, you know, i think it's should be noted that -- >> larry: they don't get mad at the right? >> yeah. >> they're pretty mad at the right. >> the $100 billion family that funds freedom works which supports the tea party, they benefit by getting these guys riled up about this guy who is trying to affect health reform as opposed to getting mad at the rich guys themselves. >> but is it rich people telling them what to do or is it white people -- >> i think it's a little bit of both. >> which one is it? a racist organization or are they a puppet organization? >> well, when seth and i got

together and created the tea party, we had a big -- yeah, we had -- >> larry: it's finally come out. >> exactly. >> people have different opinions in here. >> it was supposed to be a review. >> i think it's anti-obama. >> there were groups that are anti-bush. i was anti-bush. >> yes. >> yet, no one called me racist. because i'm the same race? >> he wasn't the first black president, either. >> you know, bush -- bush is part asian. >> he is? >> yeah. >> let me get a break. >> take it, larry. >> time for a salute to tonight's hero. watch. >> my daughter was premature. life doesn't stop. i started an organization that

provides assistance with babies in the nicu. i want to take the suffering away from them so they can really focus on their baby. it's emotionally draining. and the way the economy now is, people are suffering. >> i think this is going to be hard. she's going to be okay. >> they need extra money for clothing. i'm having a great time.

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>> thats with a great bit. >> have you ever used the n word on your show? >> no. the cleveland show has used it. i mean they said the phrase the n word. but as far as using the actual n word, no. >> larry: do you like "family guy"? >> yes, very much. >>. >> larry: do you like it? >> i do. >> i'm sitting right here. >> larry: to penn, it makes no difference. >> i'm very complimented you said that, larry. >> dating my teenage daughter is one of my favorite episodes. >> larry: we're running out of time. what is the next show about? >> the next show, brian and stewe trapped in a vault. no cut aways, no flash backs. it's a one act stage play you may see on broadway. >> larry: "trapped in a vault." >> you're showing cartoons on broadway? >> larry: thanks very much. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com