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me, said, do you want to come work for me? my agent was the late bob wolf, he said, it's not a bad deal, they're doubling your pay. they give you an option, if at the end of the year you're unhappy, you can bail out. so i said, i'll try it. i tried it. we tried it. 25 years ago. michael moore is here tomorrow. for dr. sanjay gupta and "a.c. 360," that's here right now. sanjay? >> thanks, larry. liked the glasses and the hair, for the record. tonight, the most powerful guy at the most powerful bank on wall street was lloyd bank blankfein running a crooked deal? we're keeping him honest tonight. also tonight, if the security cam video didn't exist, could you even imagine this? a mugging, a wounded samaritan, and then one person after another sees the man on the sidewalk. one even takes pair, but none of
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them, not a single soul calls for help until it's too late. and later, what happens if one of those tiny lights in the sky really is e.t. and what if e.t. isn't cuddly, what if he's hungry? or ticked off. one of the smartest men on the earth says if aliens really are out there, we might want to hope that they stay way. first up, wall street bankers keeping them honest and accountable. a big day coming up tomorrow after major developments in the push for tighter regulations tonight. >> three fifths of the senators dually chosen and sworn, not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to. >> and that's the sound of democrats not getting the 60 votes needed to begin debate on a reform package. every single republican voted, voting no. seeking more time, they say, for a bipartisan compromise. democrats, despite losing this opening round, happy to get the gop on record saying no, promising another test vote later this week. meantime, tomorrow, both democrats and republicans are expected to grill executives from goldman sachs.
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they're going to be asking ceo lloyd blankfein about allegations goldman not only bet on people losing their homes, but also that it failed to tell investors about how the bank and a hedge fund billionaire designed products backed by mortgages they cherry-picked to be the worst of the worst. the first part, if it's true, nasty, perfectly legal. the second part, if proven, is fraud. and that's what this s.e.c. lawsuit alleged and ceo blankfein is already denying, but tomorrow he'll be confronted by his own words saying otherwise. that's where we start. joe johns, keeping them honest. he joins us now. i don't know a lot about the finance industry, but as far as i can tell, the guy gets record profits, but he and the firm are both being procastigated. what is happening here? >> it's the heat. this guy is either a brilliant businessman or he's actually one of the people who nearly brought down the economy. that's depending on who you believe. you're right, this firm made
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something like $3.4 billion in a quarter, but he didn't exactly endear himself to average americans describing goldman sachs as doing god's work and then after that, he makes something like $18 million investing his own money in goldman-run funds. he's basically exhibit "a" in what's wrong with wall street, to some people. greedy bankers looking out for themselves. senator carl levin talked a little bit about what he thinks goldman did in advance of this hearing for tomorrow. let's listen. >> the evidence shows that goldman repeatedly put its own interests and profits ahead of the interests of its clients. >> $20,000 an hour, is what i heard, by the way, that he made as well. this sounds also familiar, joe. it's not going to be the first time that blankfein himself has appeared on the hill about this. so what is new here? >> well, the one thing you can say for sure is in all
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likelihood, they're not going to admit any wrongdoing. blankfein and the bank deny, basically, all the charges. they say they're up-front about their investments, and the real question about this guy is about what's known on the street as shorting. basically betting that some mortgage-backed securities products sold by the bank were going to fail. goldman claimed during the financial crisis it lost money, but we have an e-mail and a graphic of it. blankfein wrote, "of course we didn't dodge the mortgage mess. we lost money." but then listen to this, he said "then we made more than we loss because of shorts." shorting, again. also, it's not over, he said. so who knows how it's going to turn out ultimately. senator elev senator lein, says they made something like $3.2 billion in 2007. let's listen to peter morici. he's an expert on a lot of this and an economist here in the washington area. >> goldman sachs is like a
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bookmaker. one client's always going to win, another one ils going to lose, but it's trying to work the game so that it always win. >> i'm sure goldman sachs has something to say about all of this, the way it's been posed so far, it sounds pretty bad. >> well, it's that betting analogy that seems to be getting to them. both blankfein and goldman deny that they're engaging in any type of massive bet against their clients. they deny knowing the housing market was going to collapse, though blankfein has said all along that the bank was doing what good banks do, basically exercises in risk management. the question, of course, is whether blankfein is telling the truth. and we'll see. >> all right, joe, you'll stick with us throughout the hour. also expected to testify tomorrow, goldman's fabrice tourre. he calls himself fabulous fab, i've heard. helped concoct many of these iffy investments. he's also gotten e-mail trail. in one of them, he told his girlfriend this, "not feeling
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too guilty about this, one of my jobs is to make capital markets more efficient. so there is a noble skpetical reason for my job. amazing how good i am convincing myself." now joining us sonny hoffman and alexis glick who started her career at goldman sachs. welcome to both of you. alexis, you know, you've obviously been following this along and you started at goldman. you know this place. they're standing firm, day didn't do anything wrong. the way i see it, and again, i'm a doctor, you're a financial person, sonny's a lawyer, so it makes for a good joke, but the way i see it, they're taking their own money and investing thisn things that are more surefire and taking investors' money and investing in things that weren't as stable, even though they knew that. is that fair and is congress going to buy that something was wrong there? >> well, here's the issue, when you're a broker dealer like this, and let's not forget that when goldman sachs were executing these transactions, these complex derivatives back then, first of all, they were
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not a bank holding company. they were an investment bank. and clearly this area in the derivatives business was the wild west, it was a fairly unregulated place to trade. but their fiduciary responsibility when they're in the middle of a transaction is if someone wants to short the market and they want to create securities to do that, they are in the business of doing that to satisfy their customers' needs. then they go out and they try, usually, to sell that transaction to another person, because oftentimes they don't want to keep that transaction on their books, or if they do, they need to properly hedge it. the issue here, the real crux of the problem is, they went out and sold this specific instrument, precisely the way one person wanted it created. and not only did they go out selling something that was sold as a aaa-rated piece of debt, but at the same time, they went out and bought insurance on what they thought would be the failure of this instrument.
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so it was that simultaneous transaction, which is what a lot of people are calling into question, and whether or not, in fact, they were betting against the ultimate buyer of this structured product. >> that's a very good description. >> complicated. >> the best i've heard. but, sunny, you're a former prosecutor, you've worked on security cases like this. now these e-mails have surfaced. that's new, as joe johns pointed out, in which goldman executives essentially acknowledged betting against the real estate bubble. i mean, is that illegal? is it amoral? how damaging is this? >> well, it certainly looks fraudulent. and i think that's really what the bottom line is. everyone says this is a very complicated case for the s.e.c.. it really isn't. when you do something like this, you sell junk to investors and you tell them it's something else, it's just either material omission, you didn't say it, or just plain vanilla fraud. so i really don't think that this is a difficult case for the s.e.c. and another thing is, the prosecutor that is the head of the enforcement division now at the s.e.c. is a former federal prosecutor out of the southern
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district who has prosecuted organized crime cases, he was the lead prosecutor for the blind sheik terrorism trial, so this is a hard nosed, hard-as-nails prosecutor, and when you look at this complaint, it looks pretty, you know, thin, but it means there's a lot more behind it. he knows that these e-mails are out there. >> and to follow on that, i'm not sure if you've been able to see yet the embargoed piece of the opening statement from senator carl levin. i've also seen the opening statement for lloyd blankfein, but really interesting data when you look inside this. highly complex, but one of the things that senator carl leverage talks about is one of the responsibilities of an investment bank is to go out and sell deals. and it suggests that some deals that they originated, that they wanted to sell out into the marketplace, that they knew didn't have real great high quality and had internal discussions about it, they tried to unwind what piece of the transaction they still owned in some of these entities, and
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there are e-mails and suggestions that employees were kind of applauded if they were able to get it off their books. now, the bottom line is, every single day, an investment bank has to sometimes take transactions that they don't want to have on their books. the question is, was some of that misleading? but let's not forget, the credit rating agencies should be held accountable and the smoking gun of those e-mails is incredible. >> you know, sunny, it's funny, as a doc, people come up to me all the time and say, if you were in my position, what would you do? and they expect me to give them the best advice on what i think they should do. and i think it would be obviously, immoral, again, not to do that. but when it comes to this, banking, some investors are going to goldman sachs, trying to get advice, picking investments. and in this case, no one knew exactly what was going to happen with the housing market before it happened, or are we suggesting they knew something more and they simply didn't divulge it? >> i think that's absolutely true. i think they knew that what they
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were selling was junk and that's why they shorted against it, they bet against pinpoiit. and that is information that the investors should have known. at least, that's what the s.e.c. is alleging. so absolutely, they were misleading, they misled investors, they misled their clients and i think they're going to be held accountable. i'm really interested in what blankfein is going see tomorrow in front of this committee, because i don't think he can be transparent at all, because there's a pending case, pending litigation. and i would be surprised if he didn't get sort of the enron, very chilly reception tomorrow when he sits before that panel. >> see, i disagree. >> no! >> i'm not 100% sure that everybody knew that this was a house of cards that was going to fall apart. >> but do you think he knew? do you think he knew? >> there were plenty of people on wall street that thought this was going to continue and it was going to be a strong, healthy real estate market. that's why there were two sides to these trades. >> and it sounds like that even within goldman sachs, at least according to -- >> there was an argument within goldman. >> obviously, stay tuned on this. a lot of us, as you mentioned,
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sunny, going to be paying attention to what blankfein has to say tomorrow, and we want to know from you as well at home, what you think. we've got the live chat up and running at ac360.com. up next, though, tornados, a string of them across the south. >> oh, my god! wow! wow! wow! holy crap. >> cable news and holy crap. we'll talk to the storm chaser who captured these images and get the latest from one of the hardest hit communities. and later, "crime & punishment," what would you do? could you walk right past a dying man without helping? you'll see just how many people did. it can happen anytime, when you least expect it... a regular moment can become romantic. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready
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it gives a very positive impression on homp.uyers. i also use it in my house because our couches were smelling more like dog than anything else. (laughing) it removes odours of sports, teenagers, (laughing) or cooking. i would not want to face a week without febreze fabric refresher. brutal weekend of tornadoes here in the south. at least a dozen people have been killed. this is video up close of a twister in darlington, south carolina. in a moment, we're going to take you to a town in mississippi, a state where they're mourning ten dead tonight. first, though, a "360" dispatch. i want to bring in the storm chaser who shot this, gehrard jabailey. we got to see your video and also hear your commentary there. how close were you to the tornado when you shot that? >> that video right there, i was about 300 yards away. >> and how far do you -- i mean,
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does one typically stay away from a tornado when you're trying to shoot? >> we usually try to stay a little further away than that, if we can imagine, a mile is usually a comfortable distance that we like to try to keep at, but i got a little bit closer to it, i was a little more comfortable around, and it was slower moving, so i think we could get a little closer to it. >> you know, now that i'm a dad, i'm not sure that i would want my kids to storm chase, so to speak. i mean, why do you do this? >> well, for two reasons. one is, it is quite exciting, to say the least. it is kind of part of my career, as becoming a meteorologist, i guess. putting my skills to the test out in the field. the other thing i can do, i can provide a lot of ground truth to the national weather service and the media so they can get the warning out to people who may not know about it, because sometimes the radar, things like that don't exactly show what these things are doing on the ground. and my purpose for being there can give some ground truth as to what's really happening. >> you can see a lot of things flying around in the debris there, papers, trees, all sorts
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of deferent things. you know, it got me thinking, when i was thinking about you, that you're probably the first person on the scene a lot of times and you may see some bad things happen to people, as a result. i mean, are you -- is that something you think about? are you trained as a first responder? would you administer first aid? >> that's one thing i will try always to do, but i was the first person on the scene to some devastation from this particular tornado. about three people i had to kind of help out of a big pile of debris and they had no one else out there to give them help and at least let them know that they were safe now and that help is on the way. so i have the ability to call emergency services to their location, because sometimes how else would they get the word out that they needed help. >> all right. fascinating. be safe out there, eh? i'm sure your parents worry about you a little bit, like i would about my own kids. thank you so much. and as we mentioned, ten people died in mississippi when a tornado cut across the state. this tornado, winds of 170 miles an hour, according to the national weather center, but
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that's only a number. there's a real story as well and that comes from ed lavendera. >> all i can say, she was a happy persbaby. she was so precious. i'll always, always miss her. i love her. >> reporter: these are priceless pictures for jawaski paterson, the only snapshots left of his only child, 3-month-old nyla. >> used to always tease me, she looked just like me. >> reporter: daddy's girl? >> yeah. >> reporter: when the tornado struck, nyla was inside this shattered mobile home with her mother, valerie. >> she said everything came down, falling down, and the trailer came down on -- >> reporter: so valerie had the baby in her hands the whole time? >> she had the baby. actually, she was on top of the baby, to protect her. that's why her back is -- >> reporter: all damaged? >> yeah, damaged.
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>> nowhere did the mississippi tornado inflict more town than in the small town of weir along a small stretch of orange gravel where three young girls died. just up the family from nyla lived the jobe family and their three children, but two daughters didn't survive. 14-year-old brittany and 9-year-old tyann. as the tornado approached, the jobe family ran out of their house, they wanted to get in their car so they could race away, but the winds had picked up the car and thrown it beyond the house over here. they ran back inside, the father grabbed one girl, a brother grabbed his sister, but the power of the storm was just too much. the girls were sucked out of the house and thrown about 100 yards deep into the woods. what do you remember most about these two young sisters? >> their smiles. you never saw them when they weren't smiling. both brittany and tyann both, every day tyann would come up to me and coach me and say, coach beard, i love you, and i would
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say, i love you the too. >> reporter: that's glen beard, the principal of the school where the jobe sisters were described as vivacious and popular. all five of the jobe children go to school here at the weir instantaneous school. tyann's chair will sit empty the rest of the squoo chool year. >> that was the first thing we did this morning. she drew it and she said, this is her and tyann. >> this is the girl who drew and it she's crying? >> yes, and she said, i will miss tyann so bad. >> pretty powerful stuff. >> every year in this classroom i tell them, we're family, and we lost a family member. >> reporter: the last project tyann jobe finished at school was watching a caterpillar turn into a butterfly, a poignant final lesson. >> we have, you know, lost one of our friends. i think today will be a special
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thing to release them in memory of tyann. what do y'all think? there they go. >> ed, an incredibly sad story there. ed lavendera joins us now. how are the parents of those girls doing? >> reporter: well, the jobe sisters' parents, their father has already been released, treated and released from a hospital nearby, but it's their mother that they're most concerned about. she was care flighted to a hospital in memphis. she suffered severe injuries to her head. we understand she was in the intensive care unit at one point, but she has been improving. she's now in fair but stable condition. as for little nyla's mother, who was holding on for to her, she was taken to a hospital in jackson, mississippi, and she suffered -- her fiancee tells with us, six broken bones in her back, a cracked rib, and also a punctured lung. >> ed lavendera, be safe out there. and if you're looking behind ed,
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you can see some of the rubble behind him. let's give you some of the raw data on how tornadoes stack up on wind speed and power. the enhanced fujita scale, an ef-1, winds up to 110 miles an hour and they can overturn a mobile home. at 2 or up to 135 miles an hour, cars a lifted up off the ground. ef-3s can topple a locomotivloc. ef-5 tornados have winds topping 200 miles per hour. that can topple anything like a car and hurl it the length of a football field. up next, outrage plain and simple. how nearly two dozen people walked past a dying man and just kept walking. . also, the latest on bret michael's conditions. quite frankly, i can respect that. we want to make this a company
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overlooking a sidewalk in queens, new york, a security camera records a woman walking along the street. police say she's about to be the victim of a violent mugging. the attacker, wearing dark pants and a green hat approaches her. he's armed with a knife. police say a man comes to her aid. she is hugo alfredo tale-yax, a homeless day laborer. the attacker turns on him and police say stabs him several time in the chest. tale-yax turns to chase the man who's just stabbed him, but after only a few steps, he collapses on the sidewalk. what happens next is difficult to comprehend. people walk by without stopping to help him. they come and go, more than 20 of them. some glance over at the dying man. others stare. these two men stop, nearby, they stand there before one of the men takes out his cell phone and takes a picture. another turns tale-yax over, presumably sees his wounds, but like the others, walks away.
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for more than an hour, dozens of pedestrians and bystanders walk past this hero who saved a life, apparently without ever calling 911. finally, firefighters respond to the scene, but it is too late. hugo alfredo tale-yax is dead. it's a shocking story, i'll tell you, but we've seen it before. it's called bystander behavior, in which people do nothing to save someone else's life. but it could be something else as well. and that's the response mechanisms in our brains. that could be changing. we're digging a little deeper now. joining me now is psychologist michael bradley. he's author of "when things get crazy with your teen." michael, a man left to die after being stabbed on the street. when i heard this story, it seemed too hard to believe. >> i still can't watch that video without thinking it was staged. it's so unreal. and when we look at it, we see a couple of things. like you said, there's the bystander effect and something called the fusional responsibility.
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we've known about those for a while. i don't think that's what we're looking at that in this. i think we're seeing the this new phenomenon, this desensation to violence, where we're actually changing brain structures in a way, when people don't get it when they look at it now. >> are you saying as a result of what? because of movies, video games? i've heard that before. is that -- is it as simple as that? >> it is as simple and as complex. we pound, particularly our children, we pound them 24/7 with what i call promps. they're violent scenarios, lyrics in a song, scenes in a movie. all sorts of suggestions about violence to the point where the brain is now changing in these kids in the way it responds to real violence. as if brains can't discriminate between real violence and pain and cyberviolence. >> you know, michael, it's one of those things where, obviously, a lot of people game, or they play these games. you know, are you saying an entire generation, an entire society is becoming desensitized to -- it's a little bit hard to believe. and also, a lot of the people
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walking by were adults, as far as i could tell. is it happening, mainly in kids, or is it happening in adult as well, according to what you've seen? >> well, both. and we're seeing it in the past couple of decades. we saw this increasing saturation of violence in our media, really in the whole culture. the american culture loves violence. we can't get enough of this stuff. and it is falling out on our kids. it would be great if we could get that group of 24 people and then find out how old they are, what their exposure has been. but the science is real clear. if you expose kids to this stuff, they do change, actually, physiologically and neurologically, the way they respond to violence. >> speaking of these images, i was in haiti recently. what role do you think the images from disaster, such as 9/11 or haiti have played? is this just a more violent world to live in than what our grandparents experienced and do we see more of it? >> we definitely do see more of it, but the part that concerns us is that there's a beneficial effect to the haiti series you did, which was phenomenal, where you're really showing the real pain and the real trauma in real
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life. the video games have an effect where people get blown up and then you hit a button, they dust themselves off and get up and play again. and that's the response that really concerns us. when we see kids responding to true-life violent scenarios in a way that's passive, as if they're watching a game. >> i can't help but wonder if the same thing would have happened in my small town of chelsea, michigan, versus new york city, but that's a discussion to continue at another time. michael bradley, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. still ahead, the latest on reality star bret michaels. he's fighting for his life after massive brain hemorrhage. and one of the world's most respected thatastrophysicist, stephen hawkings, he's sounding a warning about aliens. personally, i thought i was invincible. once it happened, i realized it's a different story. i'm on an aspirin regimen now because i never want to feel that helplessness again. [ male announcer ] aspirin is not appropriate for everyone.
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a lot happening tonight. and joe johns is back with a "360" news askand business bull. >> after more than 20 years in a u.s. prison, nor may is heading to paris to face charges of laundering drug money. secretary of state hillary clinton signed his extradition order. a haitian judge has dropped kidnapping charges against american missionary laura sillsby and nine others, but sillsby will face trial as early as next week on a charge of arranging irregular travel. the group was stopped in january while trying to take 33 haitian children out of the country. a federal appeals court has certified the largest class action employment lawsuit in
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history against the world's largest retailer, walmart. the ruling will allow more than 1 million current and former walmart employees to band together in their claims of gender bias in pay and promotion. and bret michaels remains in critical condition as doctors search for the source of bleeding in his brain. the rock star and reality tv star was stricken on friday after developing an excruciating headache. and sanjay, i know you're hosting the show tonight, but this is a gad time to sort of turn the tables and ask you a few questions about this case. a lot of people have questions about what exactly happened to bret michaels. is it typical, in the lead up to a hemorrhage like this, what sort of symptoms might michaels have had? >> the thing that really struck me, joe, about hearing about bret michaels, he described this sort of feeling of a baseball bat in the back of his head. and we refer to that, joe, as a thunderclap headache. the reason that's so significant is because a lot of times, it
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can be a clue that an aneurysm has ruptured in the brain. if you take a look at these pictures and start looking at those blood vessels in red at the very bottom of the brain, focus in on that area there, that's a blood blister at the bottom of the brain, the problem, as you might guess, is that the. it can spray blood throughout the brain. that's called a subarachnoid hemorrhage, joe, exactly what you were talking about. what's interesting, they haven't been able to figure out exactly where that aneurysm is. they've done a few tests, they'll probably have to do a few more and try to fix it so that aneurysm doesn't happen again. >> blood pooling in the brain. how do you relieve that pressure? >> it's interesting. a lot of times if blood pools in one area, you can go in there and remove that blood, but this type of thing, the way that was spraying through the brain, it's more like a sponge absorbing water. you can't go in there and remove that water. you have to let it heal over time. to relieve pressure, they may sometimes take some fluid out of
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the brain, to give the brain and that blood a little bit more room while with it heals. >> so what are the next few days or the next couple of weeks look like for bret? >> you know, joe, this is a serious issue. there's no question. 10% of people who have a ruptured aneurysm die almost immediately with it and about 50% of people don't survive within 30 days. so he's not out of the woods by any means, but i'll tell you, i was encouraged a little earlier when i was told he was talking, al be it with slurred speech, he was seeing, al be it with blurry vision, but those are good signs. the doctors will keep a close eye on that and try to figure out why he bled. he's also a type 1 diabetic, joe, as you know. i doubt that probably contributed to this overall situation. sometimes the medications you're on might cause a little bit of a problem. >> good enough. thanks so much, sanjay. >> yeah. i'm anchoring once in a long while, and you're asking me the questions. >> that's a good thing. next on "360," secrets of
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tonight, we begin a week-long series called the secrets of the high cost of medicine. i'm going to start off by showing a you a couple of numbers. this year, medicare will spend roughly $125 billion on patients during their last 12 months of life. that's a full quarter of its entire budget. so why is spending so skewed toward the end of life? well, we all know medical advances have allowed people to live longer, but here's the
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thing. fully three quarters of people who live to age 65 will develop cancer, heart disease, chronic lung disease, dementia or are going to have a stroke in their last year of life. and all of that is costly. let's show you how some of those numbers break down. the estimated lifetime cost of treating a stroke, for example, in a senior, $100,000. for heart disease, conservative price tag, around $121,000 over 20 years. that's without surgery. and if you need surgery, many people do, costs can run more than $4 million. for prostate cancer treatment, the cost is around $41,000. and the average cost of a nursing home per year, $42,000 to $70,000. for an alzheimer's patient, the estimated life tom cost, $174,000. they're big numbers and add up quickly and your insurance doesn't always cover everything. randi kaye has one family's story. >> reporter: terence foley embraced life. he spoke six languages, even
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taught himself arabic. he played more than 16 musical instrumented and earned his phd in his 60s. so when terence was diagnosed with kidney cancer in 2000, he was determined to beat it. his wife, amanda bennett, says they never gave much thought to how much it would cost. they had health care coverage. that first operation to remove his kidney you say cost about $25,000. this was just the beginning. >> right. it was just the beginning. >> reporter: did you see bills along the way or -- >> it's not like you're shopping for a car. you don't go in and say to the hospital, i'm about to buy this kidney surgery, how much is it going to cost me? >> reporter: but terence's fight wasn't finished. two years after it was first discovered, february 2002, a routine follow-up showed the cancer had spread. terence started taking the drug innerliukin 2 at $7,500 a dose. the costs were starting to add up to a price tag that would stun amanda. in december 2005, another setback. cancer had started to grow in terence's lungs.
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he started avastin, a free clinical trial, but the second time he needed it, it cost plenty. >> right here you can see it was charged at $27,360 for a dose of the avastin. >> for one dose? $27,000. >> one dose. >> reporter: over the course of his illness, terence had more than 60 chest scans, each about $3,200. >> and the last drug he took was at $200 a pill. >> $200 a pill? >> per pill. >> and how often did he take that? >> every day. >> reporter: that lasted about a month, because in december 2007, terence was rushed to the hospital. the cancer was in his brain. for the four days doctors worked to save him, they billed more than $43,000. that's more than $10,000 a day. >> really, the only thing i can say for certain that we spent that money on was to confirm that he was dying. >> reporter: on december 14th, seven years after his diagnosis,
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terence foley passed away, with amanda holding his hand. today, years later, she is still blown away by how much it cost to try and save her husband. the total -- $618,000. did he ever say to you, save me at any cost? >> i think he would have been absolutely horrified at how much it cost. he would have thought, you could vaccinate 600,000 people, you know, in africa for this. >> reporter: amanda paid just $10,000 out-of-pocket thanks to health insurance, but to have her husband for another day, she'd pay anything. >> i absolutely would do it all over again. would i want everyone who was in a situation like this to have the same opportunity i had to do whatever it took to save their loved one? absolutely, i'd want that. how do we, as a country, as a world, afford all that? >> reporter: something else amanda doesn't know. did all those expensive treatments actually help her husband live longer?
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not even his doctors can say for sure. randi kaye, cnn, washington. >> all right. great question she poses there. of course, near the end-of-li o, a lot of us want everything done. we'll stick with our topic, the series on the secrets of high cost of medicine continues tomorrow. we'll take a look at how much the obesity epidemic is really costing us. it's not only a deadly trend, but it's also incredibly expensive. but next on "360," are they real-life space invaders. astrophysicist stephen hawking warning about aliens and why they could be coming for a not-so-pleasant visit. and also, it's from an office from the british.
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through mirrors. is it all possible? let's go up close with the director of the hayden planetarium in new york. and like hawking, he's also an astrophysicist. thanks so much for joining pus. >> happy to be with you. >> i've been fascinated by this since i was a kid. the fact that there's hundreds of billions of galaxies -- >> hundreds of billions of stars. >> even more. probably means there's probably life out there somewhere. >> indeed. >> but this idea that aliens will be evil, and hawking paints this picture that is far less e.t. and far more "independence day." speculation? >> yeah, but it's not blind speculation. everything it says more about what we fear about ourselves than any real expectation of what an alien would be like. in other words, our biggest fear, i think, is that the aliens who visit us would treat us the way we treat each other here on earth. so in a way, hawking's sort of
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apocalyptic fear stories are just a mirror held up back to us. and that's how we need to think about it. >> that's a very different perspective than what carl saygan put out there. he was giving out at the time's location. >> he gave a return address on a plaque on the "voyager" spacecraft, here we are! >> so why would they do this. treat us the way we treat ourselves, sounds like something parents tell their children, but why? some sort of revenge, vengeance? what is it? >> well no one knows how an alien will behave? they'll have different chemistry, different motives, different intentions. who are we to extrapolate what we are to them? i'm just saying that any suspicion that they will be evil is more a reflection of our fear about how we would treat an alien species if we found them than any actual acknowledge about how an alien would treat us. >> we have these -- we're listening right now, my understanding is, we've been listening for a long time, for
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anything and we haven't heard a peep, really, from out there. do you think we're being listened to right now? >> yeah, possibly. so the big fear, i think is we announce our presence and then the aliens come and then enslave us or put us in a zoo or whatever. and there have been entertaining science fiction stories that capture just those themes. so that's the fear factor. but what are we doing? we're mostly listening. we have giant radio telescopes pointing in different directions with highly sophisticated circuitry that listens to billions of radio frequencies simultaneously to see if anybody's whispering on any one of them at any place in the universe. so that's different from sending signals out. we're not sending signals out on purpose. we're sending them out accidentally. oura radio bubble is about 70 light years away from us right now and on the frontier of that bubble has the "i love lucy" show, "the honeymooners."
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these are the first emissaries of our human culture that an alien would decode. >> it takes so long for sound to get out there. and i would never think you would describe of us as living in an alien zoo. i think we have a little bit of time for a lightning round. true or false, saturn would float in water, true or false? >> yeah, the density of watsatu is less than water. >> you'd be the same height in space, true or false? >> you're an inch or two taller in space, the moment you come back, you shrink back. >> the face on the landscape of mars was evidence of life there? >> of course not. it was -- when we had better resolution images, the face went away. >> there you go. right. we'll give ourselves a pass on that one. no one can hear you scream in space, true or false? >> that's true, unless you've got radio communication, there's no air. air propagates sound, so if
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you're in the vacuum of space and you scream, no one's listening. >> i should put my kids out there. there's a star made entirely of diamond. true or false? >> there are dead stars that are principally carbon and under very high pressure with enough time, the crystalline structure can change. they're not active stars sustaining life on surrounding planets. they're dead. you wouldn't want to be a planet around them. >> so my wife can't get that right now? >> maybe. you could do a flyby. scoop up some diamonds on your way. >> right. i love talking to you so much. always learn so much. thank you so much. >> thank you. and i tweet the universe, like every day. they're there. >> i'm going to twitter and maybe somebody in outer space will read it and hear it. >> you got it. >> thanks a lot. up next, a massive oil spill in the gulf of mexico. the result of the deadly oil rig explosion last week.
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we're following several other important stories tonight. joe johns is back with the "360 bulletin". >> sanjay, the u.s. coast guard is preparing for the worst with 42 gallons of oil leaking each day from the wreckage of a drilling platform in the gulf of mexico. if the oil slick cannot be contained, officials say it could hit land between louisiana and florida within the next three days. the view from space here, a look at the spill tonight, just off the coast of louisiana. the british government has apologized to pope benedict after an internal memo was leaked, suggesting the pontiff could launch a brand of new condoms during his visit to the uk in september. the memo also recommends the pope bless a gay marriage. and a perdue university student challenged women around the world to show off more skin today to test an iranian cleric's claim that immodestly
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dressed women are responsible for earthquakes. now, this is what they called it, boobquake, but the fact of the matter is, it did not get off to a good start. believe it or not, a magnitude 6.0 quake hit taiwan today, but the organizers said that did not count, since it's outside her boobquake zone. just the fact, folks. >> i'm going to do something rare and keep my mouth shut on that one. >> exactly right. >> for tonight's shot, though, we saw this on break.com. assi it's a pony ride that take asteriaster i terrifying ride. take a look at this. [ speaking foreign language ] >> a little girl falls off her pony, as you see, and that ostrich attacks her. the child's father, you see him running there, he comes to the rescue, eventually. take a look. >> good grief.
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>> there's the pony. take a look at this. stay with this, here, joe. >> wow. wow! he went into papa bear mode there, as you can see, for sure. >> nobody could have ever told me that a funny-looking ostrich -- >> i thought it was a turkey. i never lived on a farm. i thought that was a donkey and a turkey, but i guess it's a pony and an ostrich. >> who knew that these birds could be mean, you know, i'm running off to google, are ostriches mean? stunning. i'm going to stay away from ostriches and turkeys for the rest of my life. joe, thanks so much. i appreciate it. a lot more ahead at top of the hours. [ male announcer ] and then we come across the ever-present office tiger.
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a mugging, a wounded samaritan, and then one person after another sees the man on the sidewalk. one even takes a picture, but none of them, not a single soul calls for help until it's far too late. "crime & punishment" tonight. and later, up close, what happens if one of those tiny lights in the sky really is e.t. and what if e.t. isn't cuddly. what if he's hungry? or ticked off. one of the smartest men on the earth says if aliens really are out there, we might want to hope that they stay way. first up, wall street bankers keeping them honest and accountable. a big day coming up tomorrow after major developments in the push for tighter regulations tonight. >> three-fifths of the senators dually chosen and sworn, not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to. >> and that's the sound of democrats not getting the 60 votes needed to begin debate on a reform package. every single republican voted, voting no. seeking more time, they say, for a bipartisan compromise. democrats, despite losing this opening round, happy to get the
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gop on record saying no, promising another test vote later this week. meantime, tomorrow, both democrats and republicans are expected to grill executives from goldman sachs. they're going to be asking ceo lloyd blankfein about allegations goldman not only bet on people losing their homes, but also that it failed to tell investors about how the bank and a hedge fund billionaire designed products backed by mortgages they cherry-picked to be the worst of the worst. the first part, if it's true, nasty, but perfectly legal. the second part, if proven, is fraud. and that's what this s.e.c. lawsuit alleged and ceo blankfein is already denying, but tomorrow he's going to be confronted by his own words saying otherwise. that's where we start. joe johns, keeping them honest. he joins us now. you know, joe, i don't know a lot about the finance industry, but as far as i can tell, the guy gets record profits, but he and the firm are both being castigated. what exactly is the problem here? >> like you said, it's the heat,
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sanjay, federal heat. lloyd blankfein, boss of goldman sachs. this guy is either a brilliant businessman or he's actually one of the people who nearly brought down the economy, that's dependent on who you believe. you're right, this firm made something like $3.4 billion in a quarter, but he didn't exactly endear himself to average americans describing goldman sachs as doing god's work and then after that, he makes something like $18 million investing his own money in goldman-run funds. he's basically exhibit "a" in what's wrong with wall street, to some people. greedy bankers looking out for themselves. senator carl levin talked a little bit about what he thinks goldman did in advance of this hearing for tomorrow. let's listen. >> the evidence shows that goldman repeatedly put its own interests and profits ahead of the interests of its clients. >> $20,000 an hour, is what i heard, by the way, that he made as well.
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this sounds all so familiar, joe. it's not going to be the first time that blankfein himself has appeared on the hill about this. so what is new here? >> well, the one thing you can say for sure is in all likelihood, they're not going to admit any wrongdoing. blankfein and the bank deny, basically, all the charges. they say they're up-front about their investments, and the real question about this guy is about what's known on the street as shorting. basically betting that some mortgage-backed securities products sold by the bank were going to fail. goldman claimed during the financial crisis it lost money, but we have an e-mail and a graphic of it. blankfein wrote, "of course we didn't dodge the mortgage mess. we lost money." but then listen to this, he says, "then we made more than we loss because of shorts." shorting, again. also, it's not over, he said. so who knows how it's going to turn out ultimately. senator eleven, of course, says they lost something -- or they actually made something like $3.7 billion in 2007.
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let's listen to peter morici now. he's an expert on a lot of this and an economist here in the washington area. >> goldman sachs is like a bookmaker. one client's always going to win, another one's always going to lose, but it's trying to work the game so that it always wins. >> i'm sure goldman sachs has something to say about all of this, the way it's been posed so far, it sounds pretty bad. >> well, it's that betting analogy that seems to be getting to them. both blankfein and goldman deny that they're engaging in any type of massive bet against their clients. they deny knowing the housing market was going to collapse, though blankfein has said all along that the bank was doing what good banks do, basically exercises in risk management. the question, of course, is l s. >> all right, joe, you'll stick with us throughout the hour. also expected to testify tomorrow, goldman's fabrice tourre. he calls himself fabulous fab, i've heard. he helped concoct many of these
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alleged iffy investments. he's also got an e-mail trail. in one of them, he told his girlfriend this, "not feeling too guilty about this. the real purpose of my jobs is to make capital markets for efficient, so there's a real noble and ethical reason for my job. amazing how good i am in convincing myself." now joining us sunny hoffman and alexis glick who started her career at goldman sachs. welcome to both of you. alexis, you know, you've obviously been following this along and you started at goldman. you know this place. they're standing firm, they didn't do anything wrong. the way i see it, and again, i'm a doctor, you're a financial person, sunny's a lawyer, so it makes for a good joke, but the way i see it, they're taking their own money and investing in things that are more surefire and then taking investors' money and sort of investing in things that weren't as stable, even though they knew that. is that fair and is congress
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going to buy that something was wrong there? >> well, here's the issue. the issue is, when you're a broker dealer like this, and let's not forget that when goldman sachs were executing these transactions, these complex derivatives back then, first of all, they were not a bank holding company. they were an investment bank. and clearly this area in the derivatives business was the wild west. it was a fairly unregulated place to trade. but their fiduciary responsibility when they're in the middle of a transaction is if someone wants to short the market and they want to create securities to do that, they are in the business of doing that to satisfy their customers' needs. then they go out and they try, usually, to sell that transaction to another person, because oftentimes they don't want to keep that transaction on their books, or if they do, they need to properly hedge it. the issue here, the real crux of the problem is, they went out and sold this specific instrument, precisely the way one person wanted it created. and not only did they go out selling something that was sold
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as a aaa-rated piece of debt, but at the same time, they went out and bought insurance on what they thought would be the failure of this instrument. so it was that simultaneous transaction, which is what a lot of people are calling into question, and whether or not, in fact, they were betting against the ultimate buyer of this structured product. >> that's a very good description. >> complicated. >> the best i've heard. but, sunny, you're a former prosecutor, you've worked on security cases like this. now these e-mails have surfaced. that's new, as joe johns pointed out, in which goldman executives essentially acknowledged betting against the real estate bubble. i mean, is that illegal? is it amoral? how damaging is this? >> well, it certainly looks fraudulent. and i think that's really what the bottom line is. everyone says this is a very complicated case for the s.e.c.. it really isn't. when you do something like this, you sell junk to investors and you tell them it's something else, it's just either material omission, you didn't say it, or just plain vanilla fraud. so i really don't think that this is a difficult case for the
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s.e.c. and another thing is, the prosecutor that is the head of the enforcement division now at the s.e.c. is a former federal prosecutor out of the southern district who has prosecuted organized crime cases, he was the lead prosecutor for the blind sheik terrorism trial, so this is a hard-nosed, hard-as-nails prosecutor, and when you look at this complaint, it looks pretty, you know, thin, but it means there's a lot more behind it. he knows that these e-mails are out there. >> and to follow on that, i'm not sure if you've been able to see yet the embargoed piece of the opening statement from senator carl levin. i've also seen the opening statement for lloyd blankfein, but really interesting data when you look inside this. highly complex, but one of the things that senator carl levin talks about is one of the responsibilities of an investment bank is to go out and sell deals. and it suggests that some deals that they originated, that they wanted to sell out into the marketplace, that they knew didn't have real great high
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quality and had internal discussions about it, they tried to unwind what piece of the transaction they still owned in some of these entities, and there are e-mails and suggestions that employees were kind of applauded if they were able to get it off their books. now, the bottom line is, every single day, an investment bank has to sometimes take transactions that they don't want to have on their books. the question is, was some of that misleading? but let's not forget, the credit rating agencies should be held accountable and the smoking gun of those e-mails is incredible. >> you know, sunny, it's funny, as a doc, people come up to me all the time and say, if you were in my position, what would you do? and they expect me to give them the best advice on what i think they should do. and i think it would be obviously, immoral, again, not to do that. but when it comes to this, banking, some investors are going to goldman sachs, trying to get advice, picking investments. and in this case, no one knew exactly what was going to happen
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with the housing market before it happened, or are we suggesting they knew something more and they simply didn't divulge it? >> i think that's absolutely true. i think they knew that what they were selling was junk and that's why they shorted against it, they bet against it. and that is information that the investors should have known. at least, that's what the s.e.c. is alleging. so absolutely, they were misleading, they misled investors, they misled their clients and i think they're going to be held accountable. i'm really interested in what blankfein is going to say tomorrow in front of this committee, because i don't think he can be transparent at all, because there is a pending case, pending litigation. and i would be surprised if he didn't get sort of the enron, very chilly reception tomorrow when he sits before that panel. >> see, i disagree. >> no! >> i'm not 100% sure that everybody knew that this was a house of cards that was going to fall apart. >> but do you think he knew? do you think he knew? >> there were plenty of people on wall street who thought that this was going to continue and
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it was going to be a strong, healthy real estate market. that's why there were two sides to these trades. >> and it sounds like that even within goldman sachs, at least according to some of those e-mails -- >> there was an argument within goldman. >> obviously, stay tuned on this. a lot of us, as you mentioned, sunny, going to be paying attention to what blankfein has to say tomorrow, and we want to know from you as well at home, what you think. we've got the live chat up and running at ac360.com. up next, though, tornadoes, a string of them across the south. >> oh, my god! wow! wow! wow! holy crap. >> cable news and holy crap. anyways, we'll talk with the storm chaser who captured these images and get the latest from one of the hardest-hit communities. and later, "crime & punishment," what would you do? could you walk right past a dying man without helping? you'll see just how many people did. ♪
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if we can manage. a mile is usually a comfortable distance that we like to try to keep at, but i got a little bit closer to, i was a little bit more comfortable around wab and it was slower moving, so i think we could get a little closer to it. >> you know, now that i'm a dad, i'm not sure that i would want my kids to storm chase, so to speak. i mean, why do you do this? >> well, for two reasons. one is, it is quite exciting, to say the least. it is kind of part of my career, as becoming a meteorologist, i guess. putting my skills to the test out in the field. the other thing i can do, i can provide a lot of ground truth to the national weather service and the media so they can get the warning out to people who may not know about it, because sometimes the radar, things like that don't exactly show what these things are doing on the ground. and my purpose for being there can give some ground truth as to what's really happening. >> you can see a lot of things flying around in the debris there, papers, trees, all sorts of deferent things. you know, it got me thinking, when i was thinking about you, that you're probably the first person on the scene a lot of
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times and you may see some bad things happen to people, as a result. i mean, are you -- is that something you think about? are you trained as a first responder? would you administer first aid? >> that's one thing i will try always to do, but i was the first person on the scene to some devastation from this particular tornado. about three people i had to kind of help out of a big pile of debris and they had no one else out there to give them help and at least let them know that they were safe now and that help is on the way. so i have the ability to call emergency services to their location, because sometimes how else would they get the word out that they needed help. >> all right. fascinating. be safe out there, eh? i'm sure your parents worry about you a little bit, like i would about my own kids. thank you so much. and as we mentioned, ten people died in mississippi when a tornado cut across the state. this tornado, winds of 170 miles an hour, according to the national weather center, but that's only a number. there's a real story as well and that comes from ed lavendera. >> all i can say, she was a happy baby.
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she was so precious. i'll always, always miss her. i love her. >> reporter: these are priceless pictures for jawaski paterson, the only snapshots left of his only child, 3-month-old nyla. >> used to always tease me, she looked just like me. >> reporter: daddy's girl? >> yeah. >> reporter: when the tornado struck, nyla was inside this shattered mobile home with her mother, valerie. >> she said everything came down, falling down, and the trailer came down on -- >> reporter: so valerie had the baby in her hands the whole time? >> she had the baby. actually, she was on top of the baby, to protect her. that's why her back is -- >> reporter: all damaged? >> yeah, damaged. >> reporter: nowhere did the mississippi tornado inflict more pain than in the small town of
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weir, along a stretch of orange gravel called white road. it's where three young girls died. just up the road from nyla lived the jobe family and their three children, but two daughters didn't survive. 14-year-old brittany and 9-year-old tyann. as the tornado approached, the jobe family ran out of their house, they wanted to get in their car so they could race away, but as they got here, the winds had picked up the car and thrown it beyond the house over here. they ran back inside, the father grabbed one girl, a brother grabbed his sister, but the power of the storm was just too much. the girls were sucked out of the house and thrown about 100 yards deep into the woods. what do you remember most about these two young sisters? >> their smiles. you never saw them when they weren't smiling. both brittany and tyann both, every day tyann would come up to me and hug me and say, coach beard, i love you, and i would say, i love you too, baby. >> reporter: that's glen beard, the principal of the school where the jobe sisters were described as vivacious and popular.
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all five of the jobe children go to school here at the weir instantaneous center. that's where people know this family best. the loss of brittany and tyann have been a painful blow. tyann's chair will sit empty the rest of the school year. >> that was the first thing we did this morning. she drew it and she said, this is her and tyann. and the heart tells how bad she felt, she missesty yann so bad. >> yes, and she said, i will miss tyann so bad. >> pretty powerful stuff. >> every year i've told them that in this classroom, we're family. we lost a family member, and that's exactly how it feels. >> reporter: the last project tyann jobe finished at school was watching a caterpillar turn into a butterfly, a poignant final lesson. >> we have, you know, lost one of our friends. i think today will be a special thing to release them in memory of tyann. what do y'all think? there they go.
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>> ed, an incredibly sad story there. ed lavendera joins us now. how are the parents of those girls doing? >> reporter: well, the jobe sisters' parents, their father has already been released, treated and released from a hospital nearby, but it's their mother that they're most concerned about. she was care flighted to a hospital in memphis. she suffered severe injuries to her head. we understand she was in the intensive care unit at one point, but she has been improving. she's now in fair but stable condition. as for little nyla's mother, who was holding on to her, she was taken to a hospital in jackson, mississippi, and she suffered -- her fiance tells us six broken bones in her back, a cracked rib, and also a punctured lung. >> ed lavendera, be safe out there. and if you're looking behind ed, you can see some of the rubble behind him. let's give you some of the raw data on how tornadoes stack up on wind speed and power.
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t they're ranked on what's called the enhanced fujita scale. ef-1, winds up to 110 miles an hour and they can overturn a mobile home. at 2 or up to 135 miles an hour, cars a lifted up off the ground. ef-3s can topple a locomotive. ef-4s can level homes. and ef-5 tornadoes have winds topping 200 miles an hour. that can turn anything the size and weight of a car and hurl it the length of a football field. they are dangerous, and as we saw, deadly as well. up next, outrage plain and simple. how nearly two dozen people walked past a dying man and just kept walking. also, the very latest on bret michaels' condition.
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but instead of helping him, people just walked on by. overlooking a sidewalk in queens, new york, a security camera records a woman walking along the street. police say she's about to be the victim of a violent mugging. the attacker, wearing dark pants and a green hat, approaches her. he's armed with a knife. police say a man comes to her aid. she is hugo alfredo tale-yax, a homeless day laborer. the attacker turns on him and police say stabs him several time in the chest. tale-yax turns to chase the man who's just stabbed him, but after only a few steps, he collapses on the sidewalk. what happens next is difficult to comprehend. people walk by without stopping to help him. they come and go, more than 20 of them. some glance over at the dying man. others stare. these two men stop, nearby, they stand there before one of the men takes out his cell phone and takes a picture.
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another turns tale-yax over, presumably sees his wounds, but like the others, walks away. for more than an hour, dozens of pedestrians and bystanders walk past this hero who saved a life, apparently without ever calling 911. finally, firefighters respond to the scene, but it is too late. hugo alfredo tale-yax is dead. it's a shocking story, i'll tell you, but we've seen it before. it's called bystander behavior, in which people do nothing to save someone else's life. but it could be something else as well. and that's the response mechanisms in our brains. that could be changing. we're digging a little deeper now. joining me now is psychologist michael bradley. he's author of "when things get crazy with your teen." michael, a man left to die after being stabbed on the street. when i heard this story, it seemed too hard to believe. >> i still can't watch that video without thinking it was staged. it's so unreal. and when we look at it, we see a couple of things. like you said, there's the
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bystander effect and something called the diffusion of responsibility. we've known about those for a while. i don't think that's what we're looking at that in this. i think what we're seeing is this new phenomenon, this desensitization to violence, where we're changing brain structures, in a way, where people don't get it when they look at it now. >> are you saying as a result of what? because of movies, video games? i've heard that before. is that -- is it as simple as that? >> it is as simple and as complex. we pound, particularly our children, we pound them 24/7 with what i call promps. they're violent scenarios, lyrics in a song, scenes in a movie. all sorts of suggestions about violence to the point where the brain is now changing in these kids in the way it responds to real violence. as if brains can't discriminate between real violence and pain and cyberviolence. >> you know, michael, it's one of those things where, obviously, a lot of people game, or they play these games. you know, are you saying an entire generation, an entire
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society is becoming desensitized to -- it's a little bit hard to believe. and also, a lot of the people walking by were adults, as far as i could tell. is it happening, mainly in kids, or is it happening in adult as well, according to what you've seen? >> well, both. and we're seeing it in the past couple of decades. we saw this increasing saturation of violence in our media, really in the whole culture. the american culture loves violence. we can't get enough of this stuff. and it is falling out on our kids. it would be great if we could get that group of 24 people and then find out how old they are, what their exposure has been. but the science is real clear. if you expose kids to this stuff, they do change, actually, physiologically and neurologically, the way they respond to violence. >> speaking of these images, i was in haiti recently. what role do you think the images from disaster, such as 9/11 or haiti have played? is this just a more violent world to live in than what our grandparents experienced and do we see more of it? >> we definitely do see more of it, but the part that concerns us is that there's a beneficial effect to the haiti series you
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did, which was phenomenal, where you're really showing the real pain and the real trauma in real life. the video games have an effect where people get blown up and then you hit a button, they dust themselves off and get up and play again. and that's the response that really concerns us. when we see kids responding to true-life violent scenarios in a way that's passive, as if they're watching a game. >> i can't help but wonder if the same thing would have happened in my small town of chelsea, michigan, versus new york city, but that's a discussion to continue at another time. michael bradley, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. still ahead, the latest on rock singer and reality star, bret michaels. a lot of people talking about this. he's fighting for his life after massive brain hemorrhage. and one of the world's most respected astrophysicist, stephen hawking, he's sounding a warning about aliens. his message is pretty scary. and could he be right? we all want nnouncer) to stay active. we don't want anything... ...to slow us down. but even in your 30s... ...your bones can begin to change.
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>> sanjay, after more than 20 years in a u.s. federal prison, former panamanian dictator manuel noriega is heading to paris to face charges of laundering drug money. secretary of state hillary clinton signed his extradition order. a haitian judge has dropped kidnapping charges against american missionary laura sillsby and nine others, but sillsby will face trial as early as next week on a charge of arranging irregular travel. the group was stopped in january while trying to take 33 haitian children out of the country. a federal appeals court has certified the largest class action employment lawsuit in history against the world's largest retailer, walmart. the ruling will allow more than a million current and former walmart employees to band together in their claims of gender bias in pay and promotion. and bret michaels remains in critical condition as doctors search for the source of bleeding in his brain. the rock star and reality tv star was stricken on friday
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after developing an excruciating headache. and sanjay, i know you're hosting the show tonight, but this is a good time to sort of turn the tables and ask you a few questions about this case. a lot of people have questions about what exactly happened to bret michaels. is it typical, in the lead up to a hemorrhage like this, what sort of symptoms might michaels have had? >> the thing that really struck me, joe, about hearing about bret michaels, he described this sort of feeling of a baseball bat in the back of his head. and we refer to that, joe, as a thunderclap headache. the reason that's so significant is because a lot of times, it can be a clue that an aneurysm has ruptured in the brain. take a look here, john, i don't know if you can see these pictures, but if you take a look at the base of the brain, spin that skull around and start looking at those blood vessels in red, at the very bottom of the rain. focus in on that area there. that's sort of a blood blister at the bottom of the brain. the problem, as you might guess, is that. it can spray blood throughout
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the brain. that's called a subarachnoid hemorrhage, joe, exactly what you were talking about. what's interesting, they haven't been able to figure out exactly where that aneurysm is. they've done a few tests. they'll probably have to do a few more and try to fix it so that aneurysm doesn't happen again. >> okay. so blood pooling in the brain, how you relieve that pressure? >> you know, it's interesting, a lot of times if blood sort of pools in one area, you can go in there and remove that blood. but with this type of thing, joe, the way that was spraying through the brain, it's more like a sponge absorbing water. you can't really go in there and just remove that water. you have to sort of late it heal over time. to relieve pressure, they may sometimes take some fluid out of the brain, to give the brain and that blood a little bit more room. >> so what are the next few days or the next couple of weeks look like for bret? >> you know, joe, this is a serious issue. there's no question. 10% of people who have a ruptured aneurysm die almost immediately with it and about 50% of people don't survive within 30 days. so he's not out of the woods by any means, but i'll tell you, i
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was encouraged a little earlier when i heard he was talking, al be it with slurred speech, he was seeing, al be it with blurry vision. but those are good science. the doctors will keep a close eye on that and try to figure out why he bled. he's also a type 1 diabetic, joe, as you know. i doubt that probably contributed to this overall situation. sometimes the medications you're on might pose a little bit of a problem. >> good enough. thanks so much, sanjay. >> yeah, see i'm anchoring for just once in a long while and you're asking me the questions, joe. that's how that works. >> that's a good thing. next on "360," secrets of the high cost of medicine. more than $27,000 for one dose of medicine? $192,000 for chest scans. and there's more. tonight, the staggering price of one man's battle against cancer. plus, the astrophysicist and aliens. stephen hawking weighs in on whether there's life out there. what did we make better ?
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week-long series called the secrets of the high cost of medicine. i'm going to start off by showing a you a couple of numbers. this year, medicare will spend roughly $125 billion on patients during their last 12 months of life. that's a full quarter of its entire budget. so why is spending so skewed toward the end of life? well, we all know medical advances have allowed people to live longer, but here's the thing. fully three quarters of people who live to age 65 will develop cancer, heart disease, chronic lung disease, dementia or are going to have a stroke in their last year of life. and all of that is costly. let's show you how some of those numbers break down. the estimated lifetime cost of treating a stroke, for example, in a senior, $100,000. for heart disease, conservative price tag, around $121,000 over 20 years. that's without surgery. and if you need surgery, many
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people do, costs can run more than $4 million. for prostate cancer treatment, the cost is around $41,000. and the average cost of a nursing home per year, $42,000 to $70,000. for an alzheimer's patient, the estimated average lifetime cost, $174,000. they're big numbers and add up quickly and your insurance doesn't always cover everything. randi kaye has one family's story. >> reporter: terence foley embraced life. he spoke six languages, even taught himself arabic. he played more than 15 musical instruments and earned his phd in his 60s. so when terence was diagnosed with kidney cancer in 2000, he was determined to beat it. his wife, amanda bennett, says they never gave much thought to how much it would cost. they had health care coverage. that first operation to remove his kidney, you say, cost about $25,000. this was just the beginning. >> right. it was just the beginning. >> reporter: did you see bills
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along the way or -- >> it's not like you're shopping for a car. you don't go in and say to the hospital, i'm about to buy this kidney surgery, how much is it going to cost me? >> reporter: but terence's fight wasn't finished. two years after it was first discovered, february 2002, a routine follow-up showed the cancer had spread. terence started taking the drug interliukin 2 at $7,500 a dose. the costs were starting to add up to a price tag that would stun amanda. in december 2005, another setback. cancer had started to grow in terence's lungs. he started avastin, a free clinical trial, but the second time he needed it, it cost plenty. >> right here you can see it was charged at $27,360 for a dose of the avastin. >> for one dose? $27,000. >> one dose. >> reporter: over the course of his illness, terence had more than 60 chest scans, each about $3,200. >> and the last drug he took was
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at $200 a pill. >> $200 a pill? >> per pill. >> and how often did he take that? >> every day. >> reporter: that lasted about a month, because in december 2007, terence was rushed to the hospital. the cancer was in his brain. for the four days doctors worked to save him, they billed more than $43,000. that's more than $10,000 a day. >> really, the only thing i can say for certain that we spent that money on was to confirm that he was dying. >> reporter: on december 14th, seven years after his diagnosis, terence foley passed away, with amanda holding his hand. today, years later, she is still blown away by how much it cost to try and save her husband. the total -- $618,000. did he ever say to you, save me at any cost? >> i think he would have been absolutely horrified at how much it cost. he would have thought, you could vaccinate 600,000 people, you
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know, in africa for this. >> reporter: amanda paid just $10,000 out-of-pocket thanks to health insurance, but to have her husband for another day, she'd pay anything. >> i absolutely would do it all over again. would i want everyone who was in a situation like this to have the same opportunity i had to do whatever it took to save their loved one? absolutely, i'd want that. how do we, as a country, as a world, afford all that? >> reporter: something else amanda doesn't know. did all those expensive treatments actually help her husband live longer? not even his doctors can say for sure. randi kaye, cnn, washington. >> all right. great question she poses there. of course, near the end of life, a lot of us want everything done. and therein lies part of the problem. we'll stick with the topic, our series on the secrets of the high cost of medicine continues tomorrow. we're going to look at how much the obesity epidemic is really costing us. it's not only a deadly trend, but it's also incredibly
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expensive. but next on "360," are they real-life space invaders? astrophysicist stephen hawking warning about aliens and why they could be coming for a not-so-pleasant visit. and also, it's from an aufs in the british government and it mocks the pope with topics including everything from condoms to gay marriage. the great memo fallout, that's coming up.
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i'm ed whitacre, from general motors. a lot of americans didn't agree with giving gm a second chance. quite frankly, i can respect that. we want to make this a company all americans can be proud of again. that's why i'm here to announce we have repaid our government loan, in full, with interest, five years ahead of the original schedule. but there's still more to do. our goal is to exceed every expectation you've set for us. we're putting people back to work, designing, building, and selling the best cars and trucks in the world. with our 100,000-mile, 5-year powertrain warranty to guarantee the quality. and the unmatched life-saving technology of onstar to help keep you safe.
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planet after planet. they may exist in massive ships and conquer others and collect energy through mirrors. mirrors? massive ships, giant, mean aliens. it is all possible? let's go "up close" with the director of the planetarium in new york. thank you for joining us. >> sure. >> i've been fascinated by this since i was a kid. the fact that there are hundreds of millions of stars and galaxies. >> there's hundreds of billions of stars. >> even more. means there is probably life out there somewhere. >> indeed. >> but this idea that aliens will be evil and paints the picture that is far less et and more independence day, speculation? >> yeah. but it's not blind speculation. i think it says more about what we fear about ourselves than any real expectation of what an alien would be like. in other words, our biggest fear, i think, is that the aliens who visit us would treat
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us the way we treat each other here on earth. so in a way, hawkings sort of apocalyptic fear stories are just a mirror held up back to us. that's how we need to think about it. >> that's a very different perspective than what carl sagen put out. he was giving await earth's location. >> exactly. he gave the return address on a plaque on the voyager spacecraft. here we are. >> i mean so why would they do -- why would they do this? they're going to treat us the way we treat ourselves. sounds like something parents tell their children. but why? is there some sort of revenge, vengeance, what is it? >> i don't -- no one knows how an alien will behave. you'll have different chemistry, different motives, different intentions. who are we to extrapolate what we are to them? i'm just saying that any suspicion that they will be evil is more a reflection of our fear about how we would treat an alien species if we found them
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than any actual knowledge about how an alien would treat us. >> we have these -- we're listening right now, my understanding, is we've been listening for a long time for anything. we haven't heard a peep, really, from out there. >> so the big fear, i think, is we announce our presence and then the aliens come and then slave us or put us in a zoo or whatever. and they've been entertaining science fiction stories that capture the theme. so that's the fear factor. but what are we doing? we're mostly listening. we have giant radio telescopes pointing in different directions with highly sophisticated circuitry that listens to billions of radio frequencies simultaneously to see if anybody's whisterring on any one of them. so that -- that's different from sending signals out. we're not acceptsending signalsn purpose. we're sending them accidentally. the radio bubble is 70 light
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years away from us. the frontier of that bubble has the "i love lucy" show, "honeymooners." these are the first emissaries of our human culture that an alien would decode. >> it takes so long for sound to get out there. by the way, i never thought you would describe us as living if an alien zoo. i love that. i think we have a little bit of time for a fun space fact identifies. >> bring it on. >> saturn would float in water. true or false? >> yeah. the average density is less than that of water. when i was a kid, i wanted a rubber saturn instead of a rubber ducky. >> you would be the same height in space as you are on earth? >> no, if you're weightless in space, the vertebrae expand and you're an inch or two taller in space. the minute you come back, you shrink back. >> got you. the face in the landscape of mars was evidence of life there. >> of course not. when we had better resolution images, the face went away. >> there you go.
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okay. well, we'll give ourselves a pass on that one. no one can hear you scream in space. >> that's true unless you got radio communication. there is no air. air prop gates sound. so if you're in a vacuum of space and you scream, no one is listening. >> i should send my kids out there. there's a star made entirely of diamond, true or false? >> there are dense stars that are principally carbon and under very high pressure with enough time, the crystal and structure can change. we suspect some of the sort of charcoal bricks were die mopped in the core. they're not active stars sustaining life, they're dead. you wouldn't want to be a planet around them. >> so my wife can't get there right now? >> maybe. you do a fly by. >> a fly by. >> scoop up some diamonds on your way. >> right. i love talking to you so much. professor, always learn so much. thanks so much. >> thank you. i tweet the universe every day. there are more cosmic droppings. >> i'll get on twitter and maybe
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somebody outer space will read it here. >> you got it. >> next up, a massive oil spill in the gulf of mexico, the result of a deadly oil rig xploigs last we explosion last week. what are they doing to stop the 42,000 gallons of oil leaking? it adds a fourth color, yellow, to the standard rgb color system, creating a vast array of colors you can't see with your tv's three color technology. but, you can see this. whoa! oh my. [ male announcer ] quattron from sharp. you have to see it, to see it. [ engineer laughs ] [ smack! ] [ smack! smack! smack! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum ta tum tum tums
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joe johns is back with a 360 bulletin. the coast guard is preparing for the worst with 42,000 gallons of oil leaking each day in the gulf of mexico. if the oil slick cannot be contained, officials say, it could hit land between louisiana and florida within the next three days. view from space here, a look at the spill tonight just off the coast of louisiana. the british government has apologized to pope benedict after an internal memo was leaked suggesting the pontiff could launch a brand of new condoms during his visit to the uk in september. the memo also recommends the pope
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