and telling us about their own depression problems. and former rose carter advocates for understanding mental illness. go to cnn.com/larryking. and read some very worthy thoughts. now, some very worthy programming, anderson cooper, "ac360". f the latest on the oil spill and bp and what it's going to do about it and a stunning statement from michael brown and saying he wants to stop offshore drilling. where are his facts. and faisal shahzad received bomb training in pakistan and we

learned authorities tailing the suspect, faisal shahzad lost him late yesterday as he made his way to new york's kennedy airport. that is from a senior counter-terrorism official with information. how come this guy was allowed to board a plane. originally put on a no-fly list but the emirates line had not refreshed their copy and did not raise red flags. we have new information coming in almost by the minute. also on "crime and punishment," an african-american caught in mississippi with killing a white supremist. was racial hatred the reason or something more surprising? allegation, conspiracy theory is the obama administration wanted the gulf spill to happen, the edges of the oil now grazing the louisiana barrier islands. as of late today, no oil coming ashore, the wind cooperating, expected to turn unfavorable by

thursday. that is when bp says it expects to lower that huge containment dome or coffer dam on top of the main leak, the aim to contain the surface. what is interesting tonight, in this partisan climate, perhaps it shouldn't be surprising, what's interesting is the conspiracy theorys being floated around today, you already heard rush limbaugh suggest they might have tried to blow it up. but michael brown, head of the fema and hurricane katrina and says they wanted it to spread. talk about a deliberately slow administration response to shut down off oil drilling in america. >> now, you're looking at this oil slick approaching the louisiana shore according to noaa and other places if the winds are right, it will go up

the east coast. this is exactly what they want, because now he can pander to the environmental lists and say, i will shut it down because it's too dangerous while mexico and china and everybody else drills in the gulf, we're going to get shut down. >> he says, quote, this is exactly what they want, they being the obama administration. he's alleging something truly heinous, something far worse than gross ineptitude and mismanagement after katrina. does he have the facts to back up his claim? we spoke earlier. >> mr. brown, thanks for being with us. you made pretty stunning statements about this oil spill and the president. you said the obama administration wanted the oil to spread and go up the east coast because quote now he can pander to the environmentalists and say, will shut it down because it's too dangerous. do you honestly believe the united states wants this oil spill to spread and cause billions of dollars of damage and ruin people's livelihood? >> that's not what i said. they want this crisis so they

can respond to it. >> wait. that is what you said. you said -- >> no -- >> you said, that's what they want. >> i've read the transcript again. what i said was that they want this crisis, i said it may spread to louisiana and depending on the noaa forecast, it could go up the florida coast. >> you said that's what they want. >> they want a crisis like this so they can use a crisis like this to shut down offshore and gas drilling. >> what evidence do you have? >> we should not do that. we should expand -- pardon? >> what evidence. i would think as a former government official you would choose your words carefully. what evidence do you have this, this is a plot to shut down oil? >> in january, the president gave an interview to the "san francisco chronicle," in which he said cap and trade legislation should be as strong as possible, so that anybody that wants to use carbon, coal, oil and gas, whatever, that it would be so expensive, they'd end up going bankrupt. the president wants to move this country away from a carbon based

energy to something else. >> my question is what evidence do you have that the president of the united states wants this spill to spread, wants it, that they want it to go up the east coast, they want this so they can shut down the oil drill? >> anderson, nobody, including the president, wants the oil to spread into the wetlands or around the coast. i said that it would. they want to use the crisis. if they can use this crisis to shut down oil and gas drilling, that's what they're going to do. in fact, bill nelson's already come out and said it. arnold schwarzenegger's already come out and said it. the people opposed to oil and gas offshore drilling are using this crisis to shut down a legitimate industry. >> you're saying so bill nelson coordinates all statements with president obama and arnold schwarzenegger coordinates all statements with president obama? >> when you have an administration leading the country and their political position is that we want to move away from a carbon-based energy

supply to something else, this crisis occurs, the rahm emanuel rule number one of never letting crisis go to waste kicks in and they have done that. they have used this crisis, where 11 people have died, a rig worth billions of dollars has sunk under the ocean floor, they're talking about this huge damage that will last forever, which it won't, the environment will recover, they're using that to say, look how bad this is. there shouldn't be drilling and in fact the president has already suspended oil and gas drilling in the gulf. he's already done it. >> you can argue that he wants extreme stipulations on it, but, again, you haven't provided any evidence that -- in fact, you're now denying a statement you made yesterday, let me read it to you. now, you're looking at this oil slick approaching, you know the louisiana shore, according to certain noaa and other places, if the winds are right, it will go up the east coast. this is exactly what they want because now he can pander to the

environmentalists and say, i will shut it down because it's too dangerous. you believe the united states -- >> they want the crisis. anderson, let me respond. they want the crisis because the crisis enables them to shut down gas offshore drilling, which they have done, which fits into what he said to the "san francisco chronicle" in 2008. those are the facts. >> let's move on because clearly you state your position quite well. you also are saying essentially, this is president obama's katrina. where do you see the similarities between katrina and the response to this? in katrina, we know there were failures at the local, state and federal level. where are the failures here? >> here, you have an oil explosion on april 20th. on april 22nd, i think it was, the rig collapsed and the platform sunk into the ocean. that is a major catastrophe. on april 23rd, the u.s. coast guard suspended rescue efforts

because by that time, if any of those men were still alive, they had been in those ocean gulf waters for three days, so the coast guard rightfully suspended rescue efforts. it wasn't until april 27th, that janet napolitano issued her declaration of a spoifl national significance. what were they doing in the meantime? they left the coast guard out there without the additional resources that the coast guard needed, just like president bush left me down in katrina without the additional resources i needed because they were dillydallying around back at washington d.c. >> i appreciate your time, mr. brown. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, anderson. >> we'll put more of the interview online on the website tomorrow in which we talk about the president obama's actual support for oil drilling back in 2008, stated support for limited offshore oil drilling in 2008 during the proposal debates as well as his administration's announcement this year of continued support for it much to

the horror of some environmentalists and liberals. let us know what you think, the chat site is up and running at ac360.com and the fight to keep it clean and for now, they're winning. and who is the time square bombing suspect and how authorities chased him, and nearly lost him and finally caught him. recently on 360, dr. lewis, michael moore, dr. phil, you don't have to watch it, set your dvr. i got into one of the best schools in the country!

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no good anymore. the island is not overrun yet but the bad news, the oil is literally 100 yards away. we're 35 miles south of the gulfport of mississippi. this is the louisiana islands and you're looking at the oil water threatening to come on this island. the protective thing is the boom, looks like foam but this is the oil from the massive oil slick. people on the coastline of louisiana, mississippi and alabama very concerned. we can tell you because we took a 3 1/2 boat ride, that the oil is 35, 40 miles away. you can see if it wasn't for this protective boom it would be on these islands, they're amazing wildlife refuges, where migratory birds come. the islands used to be 20 miles long, but because of hurricanes over the years, katrina, george,

it's now 16 miles. the fear is years to come, the islands will be gone. they're uninhabited. a couple hundred years ago, there were a coupled hundred years ago who lived on the islands. there's wildlife refuge and concern it will go over the boom and then to the coastline. >> gary, have you seen any oil other than the oil you just showed us? now, it seems like it's gotten smaller, some people say maybe it's gone deeper but what have you actually seen? >> reporter: we expected this island to be under oil because on the boat ride over, we saw huge clumps of oil for many minutes at a time while we were traveling at 12 knots. when we got here, it was a surprise it wasn't covered with oil. this boom, hard to see in the light. there's oil surrounding this island. while we were on the boat, amazing, we saw these dolphins

and manta rays and sad to know they could be hurt by the oil. we have a correction last night we said exxon had not paid one cent of compensation until 19 years after the valdez spill in 1989. instead, they appealed a punitive damage award to the supreme court. the process took 19 years shortly after the spill, they did pay $300 million in compensation to 11,000 businesses affected by the spill. we regret the error. still ahead, the time square bomber in custody, talking his head off. who is this guy, faisal shahzad and how did investigators track him down? alarming portrait of a homegrown altar boy, who morphed into a full-grown terrorist. what our investigation has

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cracked the bomb scare wide open. faisal shahzad was arrested. he's a naturalized citizen and according to court documents, confessed to trying to rig the suv. he trained at a terrorist camp in pakistan. this story has been moving at warped speed today, we have a lot of reports, starting with an up close look at the alleged bomber. joe johns is in time square. >> reporter: anderson, if you do the math, starting when authorities first responded to the report of a car fire, the suv on time square, to the point they actually arrested this man, something like 53 hours, almost now time at all. during that time, they learned an incredible amount of information about him. here is some of what we know so far. so who is the guy who, according to authorities, has admitted of trying to blow up an suv in time square. he's 30, born in pakistan and naturalized u.s. citizen. highly educated, has an mba,

family man, his wife, huma mian, a graduate of the university of colorado. they have two kids, a boy and girl. shahzad left his job at a data and management company last year and got hit with foreclosure. a neighbor who does not want to be identified said the family was low-key. >> he was a very private person. kept to hisself. liked to come out and wear all black and go jogging. his family, his wife didn't speak much english. his daughter played with my daughter, his oldest daughter played with my daughter. there was nothing to indicate he would do something like this. >> reporter: shahzad's father is a retired senior air force officer in pakistan. in 2005, shahzad graduated from the university of bridgeport. he made little impression there. >> people remember his name but don't remember a lot about him

as a student in the classroom. >> reporter: still, the emerging picture is unsettling. he was in the u.s. on a work visa, a year ago, he took the oath of american citizenship. then five months later, according to court records, he admitted having traveled to pakistan and in fact just last february, an immigration inspector at kennedy airport in new york stopped him. authorities said shahzad told him he had been in pakistan for five months visiting his parents, said he was planning on staying in a motel in connecticut while he looked for a job and place to live. he told him his wife was back in pakistan, although something about his travel profile at the time set off red flags. for example, we know he bought a one way ticket for the flight and paid for it in cash. >> without getting into a lot of detail, he was screened when he came back because of some of the targeting rules applied. >> reporter: what we now know is shahzad admits he had bomb making training in pakistan on

one of the trips. back in connecticut, shahzad moved to an apartment in bridgeport. one neighbor said she didn't even know he was there. >> so now we don't know that someone was in the second floor. i thought someone lived on the third floor, still, we never see the guy. >> reporter: he may have been invegetabli invisible to the neighbors but no expert in stealth at concealment. in some ways he was creating a neon sign to police pointing at him. >> he was here and bought some. >> reporter: they traced his telephone calls to a cell phone that went to pakistan and a fireworks store in pennsylvania that sells the type of fireworks linked to the makeshift bomb. >> so, joe, we talked so much about that suv found there in time square. really, hasn't much been reported about the car he left at the airport. anything significant in the car? >> reporter: firepower for sure.

sub-2,000 semi automatic rifle and apparently authorities traced it back and probably purchased within the last two months. we know there was a gun, anderson. >> appreciate it. a source familiar with the investigation tells us faisal shahzad waived his miranda rights and talking to officials since his arrest and still talking. it took less than 54 hours for them to track him down. he left clues after he abandoned the suv in time square, joe griffin takes us close. >> reporter: the moment the danger was over, the wires removed, one detective looked underneath the car and wrote down the clue faisal shahzad did not know he left behind. etched under the engine block, the vehicle's identification number, the same vin number he removed from the dashboard from a source familiar with the investigation. that number led to a

registration in connecticut and with it, sources tell cnn, the name and address of the owner, whose daughter was selling the car on craig's list. she met him to sell the car and gave her his phone number so they could meet again buy it. all cash, no paperwork. according to police, that call back number led to shahzad. the car's seller and friend there worked on the police artist sketch of the suspect. it was good police work and very sloppy criminal work. the could be terrorist built and inept bomb and drove it himself to new york, leaving behind keys to another car and cell phone used to call a fireworks company so many other clues he literally led detectives right to his door and according to those same court records, shahzad admits to much of it. >> the mistakes by this individual that led to the quick solution of this crime are phenomenal in the sense of

mistakes all along the way. >> reporter: once identified, the idea was to watch him, listen, try to record phone calls, allow shahzad to make more mistakes and perhaps lead to accomplices. by monday, sources said he got spooked apparently deciding to flee, as agents decided to track his movements, one of the first things they did, sources tell cnn, was put his name on a no-fly list. monday night as he drove to jfk's international, according to federal sources he called emirate's air reserving his seat for this flight bound for dubai which would eventually connect to islamabad, pakistan. unknown to shahzad, there was no way he was going anywhere. even though the fbi briefly lost track of him, customs and border protection agents began examining flight manifests. shortly after he arrives, an emirates employee tells law enforcement a man had just paid cash for one-way ticket to pakistan. according to account by cnn by

federal law enforcement source, here's what happened next. as the plane is boarding, agents are moving in. the decision is allow the plane to shut its doors. before the plane can push back, sources tell cnn, the door is reopened, fz is placed under arrest and removed from the flight before it ever leaves the gate. under intense questioning, another emergency, two more names on board the emirates flight appear suspicious, under abundance of caution, the plane is told to go back to the gate. >> i have a message for you to come back to the gate immediately. >> reporter: they were questioned and let go. the only arrest is faisal shahzad he is said to be cooperating with the investigation and detailing his travels and training. >> he's apparently talking about pakistan. do authorities believe him? >> cops don't believe anybody, anderson. they make you prove it, especially in these terrorists

case because these guys really do like to brag, even when they blow it like this guy did. they can make him prove it, little things, checking out, where did you buy the propane tanks, okay, making sure he did. if he went to a training camp in waziristan, where? we have people that can check out and see if that is indeed true. did he get training? what kind of manuals were you given? they will check every fact as long as he is talking and is the reason there is no hearing today because he is talking. they want to keep him talking as long as they can, to find out everything they can about any other people that might be involved or might not be involve involved. >> that issue of him talking is brought up in the partisan debate these days between those who say you shouldn't read suspect miranda rights and those who say you should. thanks for your reporting. you can read more about his suburban life at ac360.com.

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hours after authorities arrested faisal shahzad, security in pakistan arrested people at his house. three people were arrested in the raid. court documents shows he received a phone call from pakistan in the days leading up to the bombing and the same phone calls for the suv used in the attack. you've been digging into his roots. what's the latest in the investigation there? >> reporter: anderson, based on what the investigation has turned up, what we're learning

about faisal shahzad, there's no red flag indications he was headed for this type of trouble. by all accounts, an ordinary young man in pakistan. government officials say he was from a small village in northwest pakistan. his family and father eventually moved them. spent a lot of time there and went to high school and even after he moved to the u.s., he came back and visited his family. we found his father's house. it was empty when our cnn crews got there, local residents telling cnn the father may have left earlier on tuesday. very interesting, his father identified as bahar, a retired air marshal. upstanding citizen. but one focal point and another focal point, karachi, where according to intelligence forces, there was a raid conducted in a house where

faisal shahzad spent time over the past year and as many as three people are being detained and questioned at this hour as this investigation unfolds in pakistan. >> you talked to members of his family. what did they tell you? >> reporter: we found a cousin, and he said, look, the family are reeling, they're shocked about these developments certainly going to put this family under severe scrutiny, despite what he said to u.s. authorities, this cousin says, this family was a good family, weren't engaged in criminal activity. let's listen to what the cousin had to say. >> these people, they never indulged in any criminal activities, not a family member, the village from which both of these people belongs, none of the village member involved in any criminal activities or jihad activit

activity. >> that was faisal shahzad's cousin defending the family. it's a good bet this family will go through a tough few days as pakistani investigators will want to find out as much as they can about this 30-year-old pakistani american. >> if he's claiming he received some kind of training or went to terror camp in the waziristan area, how possible is that? does the pakistan government -- how able are they to track who's going into these terror camps and coming out of them? obviously, they don't have freedom of movement necessarily in some of these areas? >> reporter: if indeed faisal shahzad is telling the truth and he received training in the waziristan area in the tribal region along the border, it is not unusual, not the first time, one of the most troubling facts, this area, pakistani border, tribal belt is a safe haven,

sanctuary, pakistani taliban, afghan taliban, al qaeda linked groups, many of these groups declared their desire to kill americans either across the border in afghanistan or on western soil. is he linked to one of these groups? investigators will be working to find that out. >> re za, appreciate you recording. >> just ahead, killing of a white supremacist. first, tom has more. >> anderson, the lawyer for a virginia lacrosse player says he's confident a female's death was an accident. he told investigators he had an altercation with the victim, yeardley love and kicked in her door. she had a bruce on her face and one eye shut. huguely is being held on

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according to court documents, the suspect in the time square bombings said he invested training in pakistan. we don't know if it's true but could tell white house al qaeda was behind the plot and had some hand in it. al qaeda operates in pakistan and camps are called to jihad. among the fanatic warriors in this group's holy war, a young man from new york, a shy boy in the suburbs who became a terrorist. the question we want to know is how. nic robertson spent almost a year uncovering that answer.

here's a preview of his special "360" report. >> reporter: this is penn station in the heart of new york. more than 60,000 people churn through here at peak rush, 60,000 every hour. for al qaeda, penn station and the potential for a mass killing is a prize and daunting target. but then it seemed they got lucky. that's when this man, a young american, who grew up only 50 miles from here, made his way to pakistan, to offer his help. he is brian nelvenes, and this is how a middle class kid suddenly transformed into a dangerous enemy of the state. >> brian is almost a poster child for the process, the unremarkable nature of the

people who might go through this process and the danger that presents. i spent the better part of the year here in the u.s. and europe unraveling how he went from catholic to muslim, from u.s. army recruit to jihadist, from long island to lahore. he grew up on this street, in a middle class neighborhood on long island. his parents, latino immigrants, neither would go on camera with cnn but a neighbor says as a boy, bryant was like part of her family. >> very sweet little boy. he could come here any time and he was welcomed here. >> reporter: regis knew him best. >> when we were younger, we used to go in the pool a lot. he was respectful. he'd make sure he didn't break any rules in the house. >> reporter: there was nothing remarkable about bryant's early childhood. his teachers remember him being

a good student, quiet and shy. he loved baseball and swimming. on sundays, he was an altar boy, his father devoutly catholic. when he was 14 years old, it all came crashing down. >> bryant's world shattered by his father leaving his mother. >> there were tears and temper tantrums, bryant started careling with his sister, being disrespectful towards his mother and refused to accept his parents' separation. >> reporter: later, after high school, bryant was drawn to a friend's brother, an aspiring pro boxer and convert to islam. >> he asked what is the koran? and my brother, he explained to him what it was. and he handed him the koran. >> how long did it take him to read it? >> not long, because he took every minute, every second reading that book. >> it's as if he had been

searching for a new identity and now it's taking shape. it would soon jag wildly in another direction. of course no one could have guessed bryant's journey would lead him to afghanistan and a plan to help al qaeda strike back home in new york. >> nic robertson found a lot more and we'll have it next week. al qaeda, path to terror on ac360.com. next up is a story of murder in mississippi. killing of a white supremacist. was his life taken because of his supremist views or something else involved? and laura bush, the former first lady talks about a tragedy that left her feeling guilty, her story, talking to oprah winfrey coming up.

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killer. >> usa, yes, am i okay? no. >> reporter: the man in this video was one of the most vocal white supremacists of all time. his name, richard barrett. he wanted african-americans sent back to africa. he also railed against homosexuals. today, barrett is silent, murdered says this man, because barrett propositioned him for sex. police say vincent mcgee, an african-american ex-concepcion feds to the crime. imagine the irony if it's true, a nationally recognized racist murdered for propositioning a black man for sex. early in the morning, april 22nd, police say a neighbor noticed smoke coming from barrett's home and called 911. authorities found his body in the kitchen. he had been burned over 35% of it. investigators say he had also been stabbed 16 times, mostly in the upper chest and neck, the

home set on fire to cover up the crime. mcgee is charged with arson and capital murder. he could face the death penalty but hasn't entered a plea. in court, details of mcgee's confession were made public for the first time. >> they got into an argument about the money. said barrett dropped his pants and asked him to perform a sexual act. said he got upset, grabbed a radio in the laundry room, struck him several times and grabbed a knife in the kitchen and began stabbing him and tied a knife around his hands and during the struggle, kept stabbing him until he quit moving. mike scott is his defense attorney. is it possible in your opinion he might have concocted being propositioned for sex in order to defend himself against a murder charge? >> obviously, anything is possible. i don't think that is what happened here. >> reporter: the district attorney says this is not a hate crime and had nothing to do with race or sex.

he argues mcgee's motive was robbery. >> if the killing was over unwanted sexual advances, why was the wallet taken? >> reporter: this investigative reporter for the clarion ledger newspaper has known barrett since 1988. >> it was known among white supremacist circles among some that he was gay. >> it is unbelievably common in the white supremacist world to find people who are desperately antigay but secretly gay. >> barrett and mcgee were hardly strangers to each other. mcgee had done some lawn work for barrett just dollars a he did the day barrett was murdered. they both lived right here in this racially mixed neighborhood three homes apart. mcgee lived with his mom. it was at mcgee's mother's house, right here in the carport police say they discovered sneakers covered in soot and missing top to a gas can they had found at barrett's home. police say mcgee is cooperating.

he even led them to what they believe is the murder weapon, randi kaye, cnn, pearl, mississippi. >> bizarre story. read randi's behind the scene reporters notebook on ac360.com. coming up, laura bush in her first television interview since leaving the white house and talking to oprah winfrey about a tragedy that changed her life. and what happened to this phillies fan who jumped on the field during a baseball game. you won't believe this. we'll show you what happens next. [ male announcer ] go national. go like a pro. choosing your own car? now, that's a good call.

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a filly -- phillies fan takes to the field, 40,000 people watching. he ended up getting tasered. a scathing report shows more than 20 problems at a plant where several varieties of

children's cold medicine were made including benadryl. the inspector says the company failed to follow up on customer complaints about foreign materials about dark or black specs in its drugs. the fda is considering possible criminal penalties. former laura bush giving her first tv interview today since leaving the white house. she appeared on the oprah winfrey show about the mem memoir "spoken from the heart and about an accident in high school about the death of a friend. >> how did you handle the fact you had now killed one of your dear friends? >> what did was try not to think about it. >> do you still carry the guilt? >> sure, of course, i felt guilty for my whole life. >> in nashville, tennessee, finally some flood relief. the cumberland river is starting to recede and some homeowners are starting to return. in roswell, georgia, a dramatic

rescue, three people pulled alive from a rain swollen creek. look at that! just inches from a 30 foot waterfall, a huge break there. this flooding, anderson, has been absolutely beyond belief. the pictures from nashville, blowing my mind, i can't believe it. >> unbelievable, i amazing they were pulled to safety. >> look at that. >> tonight's shot, a baseball fan stormed the field during a phillies home game last night. what he probably did not expect to get was tasered. look at this video from youtube. >> there he goes. see the guy pointing the gun and then, boom! >> there he goes, too, wow, look at this. >> the philadelphia cop follows him, pointing the taser, 17 years old. the jolt from the weapon sends him to the grass. look at this still photograph, you see the police officer pointing at him, unbelievable,

moments before the taser is actually fired, hit the guy. his father says he's a good student, a big fan, clearly not how he expected the night to end up. >> that's a great photograph, an amazing moment. >> this story isn't just making news, it "got us thinking," all about timing. >> what did it get you thinking about, anderson? >> about timing and -- what could the story have possibly got us thinking about? oh. rick sanchez. >> i'm about to receive 50,000 volts of electricity. do it. >> oh, ay aa! >> it hurts! it's painful, but no one's dead. >> oh, god, ayy a! >> i could watch that 50,000 times. >> i have it on a loop playing

at my house. >> oh, god, ayya! oh! it just never gets old. >> i love the -- but nobody die died. >> we could do this for an hour. >> but no one's dead. >> absolutely. rick's a good sport about it. we appreciate that. tom, thanks very much for being with us. serious allegations at the top of the hour. allegations that president obama is wanting the oil disaster because it pushes his agenda, allegations being made from michael brown from hurricane katrina, ahead.

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com the latest on the oil spill and where it's heading and what bp is trying to do about it. and a stunning statement from michael brown and saying he wants to stop offshore drilling. where are his facts. we're keeping them honest. the terror suspect talking.

new reports from the feds that he received bomb training in pakistan and we learned authorities tailing the suspect, faisal shahzad lost him late yesterday as he made his way to new york's kennedy airport. that is from a senior counter-terrorism official with first hand information. how come this guy was allowed to board a plane. he was originally put on a no-fly list but the emirates line had not refreshed their copy and did not raise red flags. fortunately border protection caught his name. we have new information coming in almost by the minute. also this hour, "crime and punishment," an african-american caught in mississippi with killing a white supremacist. was racial hatred the motive or something more surprising? allegations of conspiracy theorys that the obama administration wanted the gulf spill to happen, the edges of the oil now grazing the louisiana barrier islands. as of late today, no oil coming ashore, the wind cooperating,

expected to turn unfavorable by thursday. that is when bp says it expects to lower that huge containment dome or coffer dam on top of the main leak. the aim to funnel crude on the surface. what is interesting tonight, in this partisan climate, perhaps it shouldn't be surprising, what's interesting is the conspiracy theorys being floated around today, you already heard rush limbaugh suggest they might have tried to blow it up. but michael brown, head of the fema and hurricane katrina and one time fired, says they wanted the spill to spread. he talk about a deliberately slow administration response to shut down off oil drilling in america. >> now, you're looking at this oil slick approaching the louisiana shore according to

noaa and other places if the winds are right, it will go up the east coast. this is exactly what they want, because now he can pander to the environmenti environmentists and say, i will shut it down because it's too dangerous while mexico and china and everybody else drills in the gulf, we're going to get shut down. >> he says, quote, this is exactly what they want, they being the obama administration. he's alleging something truly heinous, far worse than charges of gross ineptitude and mismanagement he faced after katrina. does he have the facts to back up his claim? we spoke earlier. >> mr. brown, thanks for being with us. you made pretty stunning statements about this oil spill and the president. you said the obama administration wanted the oil to spread and wanted it to go up the east coast because quote now he can pander to the environmentalists and say, now, i will shut it down because it's too dangerous. do you honestly believe the president wants this oil spill to spread and cause

billions of dollars of damage and ruin people's livelihood? >> that's not what i said. they want this crisis so they can respond to it. >> wait. that is what you said. you said -- >> no -- >> you said about it spreading up the east coast and said, that's what they want. >> i've read the transcript again. what i said was that they want this crisis. i said, it may spread to louisiana and depending on the noaa forecast, it could go up the florida coast. >> you said that's what they want. >> they want a crisis like this so they can use a crisis like this to shut down offshore and gas drilling. >> what evidence do you have? >> we should not do that. we should expand -- pardon? >> what evidence -- as a former government official you would choose your words carefully. what evidence do you have this, was basically plot to shut down oil? >> in january, the president gave an interview to the "san francisco chronicle," in which he said cap and trade legislation should be as strong as possible, so that anybody that wants to use carbon, coal, oil and gas, whatever, that it would be so expensive, they'd end up going bankrupt.

the president wants to move this country away from a carbon based energy to something else. >> my question is what evidence do you have that the president of the united states wants this spill to spread, wants it, that they want it to go up the east coast, they want this so they can shut down the oil drill? >> anderson, nobody, including the president, wants the oil to spread into the wetlands or around the coast. i said that it would. they want to use the crisis. if they can use this crisis to shut down oil and gas drilling, that's what they're going to do. in fact, bill nelson's already come out and said it. arnold schwarzenegger's already come out and said it. the people opposed to oil and gas offshore drilling are using this crisis to shut down a legitimate industry. >> you're saying so bill nelson coordinates all statements with president obama and arnold schwarzenegger coordinates all statements with president obama? >> look, when you have an

administration leading the country and their political position is that we want to move away from a carbon-based energy supply to something else, this crisis occurs, the rahm emanuel rule number one of never letting crisis go to waste kicks in and they have done that. they have used this crisis, where 11 people have died, a rig worth billions of dollars has sunk under the ocean floor, they're talking about this huge damage that will last forever, which it won't, the environment will recover, they're using that to say, look how bad this is. there shouldn't be drilling and in fact the president has already suspended oil and gas drilling in the gulf. he's already done it. >> you can argue that he wants extreme stipulations on it, but, again, you haven't provided any evidence that -- in fact, you're now denying a statement you made yesterday, let me read it to you. now, you're looking at this oil slick approaching, you know the louisiana shore, according to certain noaa and other places, if the winds are right, it will go up the east coast. this is exactly what they want

because now he can pander to the environmentalists and say, i will shut it down because it's too dangerous. again, the question, you believe the president of the united states wants the oil -- >> they want the crisis. anderson, let me respond. they want the crisis because the crisis enables them to shut down oil and gas offshore drilling, which they have done, which fits into what he said to the "san francisco chronicle" in 2008. those are the facts. >> let's move on because clearly you stated your position quite well. you also are saying essentially, this is president obama's katrina. where do you see the similarities between katrina and the response to this? in katrina, we know there were failures at the local level, failures at the state level and failures at the federal level. where are the failures here? >> here, you have an oil explosion on april 20th. on april 22nd, i think it was, the rig collapsed and the platform sunk into the ocean. that is a major catastrophe.

on april 23rd, the u.s. coast guard suspended rescue efforts because by that time, if any of those men were still alive, they hadden by those ocean waters, those gulf waters for three days, so the coast guard rightfully suspended rescue efforts. it wasn't until april 27th, that janet napolitano issued her declaration of a spill of national significance. what were they doing in the meantime? they left the coast guard out there without the additional resources that the coast guard needed, just like president bush left me down in katrina without the additional resources i needed because they were dillydallying around back at washington d.c. >> i appreciate your time, mr. brown. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, anderson. >> we'll put more of the interview online on the website tomorrow in which we talk about the president obama's actual support for oil drilling back in 2008, stated support for limited offshore oil drilling in 2008

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the well at a staggering 12,000 gallons a day. gary joins us live. what did you see, gary? >> reporter: when it comes to live reports, this is the most remote live report i have ever done, we're four hours away from the united states. this is chandelier island, louisiana, because this is where it's expected to get the oil first. they put this here because it's no good anymore. the good news so far, chandeleur island, has not been overrun yet, but the bad news, the oil is literally 100 yards away. we're 35 miles south of the gulfport of mississippi. this is the louisiana islands and you're looking at the oil water threatening to come on this island. the protective thing is the boom, looks like foam but this is the oil from the massive oil slick. people on the coastline of louisiana, mississippi and alabama very concerned. we can tell you because we took

a 3 1/2 hour boat ride to get out here, the oil is 35, 40 miles away. you can see if it wasn't for this protective boom it would be on these islands, they're amazing wildlife refuges, where migratory birds come from north and the south. the islands used to be 20 miles long, but because of hurricanes over the years, katrina, george, it's now 16 miles. the fear is years to come, the more damage comes, the islands will be gone. they're uninhabited. a couple hundred years ago, there were a couple hundred people who lived on the islands. there's wildlife refuge and concern it will go over the boom and then to the coastline. >> gary, have you seen any oil other than the oil you just showed us? now, it seems like it's gotten smaller, some people say maybe it's gone deeper but what have you actually seen?

>> reporter: we expected this island to be under oil because on the boat ride over, we saw huge clumps of oil for many minutes at a time while we were traveling at 12 knots. when we got here, it was a surprise it wasn't covered with oil. this boom, hard to see in the light, there's oil on the boom, there's oil surrounding this island. while we were on the boat, amazing, we saw these dolphins and manta rays jumping out of the water and so sad to know they could be hurt by the oil. >> thank you. we have a correction to make in our reporting last night we said exxon had not paid one cent of compensation until 19 years after the valdez spill in 1989. instead, they appealed a $5 billion punitive damage award to the supreme court. the process took 19 years shortly after the spill, they did pay $300 million in compensation to 11,000

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in the last 24 hours, investigators appeared to have cracked the bomb scare wide open. faisal shahzad was arrested. just before midnight at jfk international airport on a flight aboard to dubai. you probably heard that already. he's a naturalized citizen and according to court documents, confessed to trying to rig the suv with a homemade bomb in time square. he told investigators he trained at a terrorist camp in pakistan. this story has been moving at warped speed today, we have a lot of reports, starting with an up close look at the alleged bomber. joe johns is in time square. >> reporter: anderson, if you do the math, starting when authorities first responded to the report of a car fire, the suv on time square, to the point they actually arrested this man, something like 53 hours, almost no time at all. during that time, they learned an incredible amount of information about him. here is some of what we know so far. so who is the guy who, according to authorities, has admitted of trying to blow up an suv in time square?

he's 30, born in pakistan and naturalized u.s. citizen. highly educated, has an mba, family man, his wife, huma mian, a graduate of the university of colorado. they have two kids, a boy and girl. shahzad left his job at a marketing and data management company last year and got hit with foreclosure. he owed $200,000 at his home in connecticut last fall. a neighbor who does not want to be identified said the family was low-key. >> he was a very private person. kept to hisself. liked to come out at night and wear all black and go jogging. his family, his wife didn't speak much english. his daughter played with my daughter, his oldest daughter played with my daughter. there was nothing to indicate he would do something like this. >> reporter: other biographical notes, shahzad's father is a retired senior air force officer in pakistan. in 2005, shahzad graduated from the university of bridgeport.

he made little impression there. >> people remember his name but don't remember a lot about him as a student in the classroom. >> reporter: still, the emerging picture of shahzad is unsettling. he was in the u.s. on a work visa, a year ago, he took the oath of american citizenship. then five months later, according to court records, he admitted having traveled to pakistan. in fact, just last february, an immigration inspector at kennedy airport in new york stopped him. authorities said shahzad told him he had been in pakistan for five months visiting his parents, said he was planning on staying at a motel in connecticut while he looked for a job and place to live. he told him his wife was back in pakistan, although something about his travel profile at the time set off red flags. for example, we know he bought a one-way ticket for the flight and paid for it in cash. >> without getting into a lot of detail, he was screened when he came back because of some of the targeting rules applied.

>> reporter: what we now know is shahzad admits he had bomb making training in pakistan on one of the trips. back in connecticut, shahzad moved to an apartment in bridgeport. one neighbor said she didn't even know he was there. >> so now we don't know that someone was in the second floor. i thought someone lived on the third floor, still, we never see the guy. >> reporter: he may have been invisible to the neighbors but he was apparently no expert in stealth at concealment. in some ways he was creating a neon sign to police pointing at him. >> he came here last year and bought a couple. >> reporter: they traced his telephone calls to a cell phone that went to pakistan and a calls made to a fireworks store in pennsylvania that sells the type of fireworks linked to the makeshift bomb. >> so, joe, we talked so much about that suv found there in time square. really, hasn't much been reported about the car he left at the airport.

is there anything significant, as far as we know, in the car? >> reporter: firepower for sure. sub 2000 semi automatic rifle and apparently authorities traced it back and probably purchased within the last two months. we know there was a gun, anderson. >> appreciate it. a source familiar with the investigation tells us faisal shahzad waived his miranda rights and has been talking to officials since his arrest and still talking tonight apparently. it took less than 54 hours for law enforcement officials to track him down. he left behind those clues after he abandoned the suv in time square, joe griffin takes us close. >> reporter: the moment the danger was over, the propane tanks, gas, wires removed, one detective looked underneath the car and wrote down the clue faisal shahzad did not know he left behind. etched under the engine block, of the vehicle, the vehicle's identification number, the same vin number he

apparently removed from the dashboard, according to a source familiar with the investigation. that number led to a registration in connecticut and with it, sources tell cnn, the name and address of the owner, whose daughter was selling the car on craig's list. she met she zaed to sell him the car. he gave her his phone number so they could meet again to buy it. all cash, no paperwork. in this shopping mall. according to police, that call back number led to shahzad. the car's seller and friend there worked on the police artist on a sketch of the suspect. it was good police work and very sloppy criminal work. the would be terrorist built and inept bomb and drove it himself to new york, leaving behind keys to another car and cell phone used to call a fireworks company so many other clues he literally led detectives right to his door and according to those same court records, shahzad admits to much of it.

>> the mistakes made by this individual that contributed to the quick solution of this crime are phenomenal in the sense of mistakes all along the way. >> reporter: once identified, the idea was to watch him, listen, try to record phone calls, allow shahzad to make more mistakes and perhaps lead to accomplices. by monday, sources said he got spooked, apparently deciding to flee. as agents decided to track his movements, one of the first things they did, sources tell cnn, was put his name on a no-fly list. monday night as he drove to jfk's international, according to federal sources he called emir rat's air, reserving his seat for this flight bound for dubai which would eventually connect to islamabad, pakistan. unknown to shahzad, there was no way he was going anywhere. even though the fbi briefly lost track of him, customs and border protection agents began examining flight manifests. shortly after he arrives at the airport, an

emirates employee tells law enforcement a man had just paid cash for one-way ticket to pakistan. according to an account provided to cnn by a federal law enforcement source, here's what happened next. as the plane is boarding, agents are moving in. the decision is allow the plane to shut its doors. before the plane can push back, sources tell cnn, the door is reopened, faisal shahzad is placed under arrest and removed from the flight before it ever leaves the gate. now, under intense questioning, another emergency, two more names on board the emirates flight appears suspicious. out of an abundance of caution, the plane is told to go back to the gate. >> i have a message for you to come back to the gate immediately. >> reporter: two individuals removed, questioned and let go. so far, the only arrest made is faisal shahzad. he is said to be cooperating with the investigation and detailing his travels and training. >> he's apparently talking about

training in pakistan. do authorities believe him? >> cops don't believe anybody, anderson. they make you prove it, especially in these terrorists case because these guys really do like to brag, even when they blow it like this guy did. they can make him prove it, little things, checking out, where did you buy the propane tanks, okay, making sure he did. if he went to a training camp in waziristan, where? we have people that can check out and see if that is indeed true. did he get training? what kind of manuals were you given? they will check every fact as long as he is talking. and i am told that is the reason there is no hearing today because he is talking. they want to keep him talking as long as they can, to find out everything they can about any other people that might be involved or might not be involved. >> that issue of him talking has been brought up in the partisan debate these days between those who say you shouldn't read suspect miranda rights and those

who say you should. thanks for your reporting. you can read more about his suburban life at ac360.com. >> he also had ties in pakistan. we'll look at an investigation unfolding over there. a raid on a house where he allegedly stayed resulted in as many as three arrests. details ahead. plus the murder of a white supremacist takes a surprising turn. wait until you hear what the alleged motive was. ahead on "360." compare a well equipped lexus es, to a well-equipped buick lacrosse. get inside each. and see what you find. if perfection is what you pursue, this just might change your course. meet the new class of world class. the twenty-ten lacrosse, from buick.

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hours after authorities arrested faisal shahzad,

security in pakistan raided a house and arrested three people at his house. court documents shows he received a phone call from pakistan in the days leading up to the bombing and the same phone calls and four of those cars were buying the suv used in the attack. you've been digging into his roots. what's the latest in the investigation there? >> reporter: anderson, based on what the investigation in pakistan has turned up, what we're learning about faisal shahzad, there's no red flag indications he was headed for this type of trouble. by all accounts, an ordinary young man in pakistan. government officials say he was from a small village in northwest pakistan. his family and father eventually moved there. spent a lot of time there and

went to high school and even after he moved to the u.s., he came back and visited his family. we found his father's house. it was empty when our cnn crews got there, local residents telling cnn the father may have left earlier on tuesday. very interesting, his father identified as bahar, a retired air vice marshal for the pakistani air force. by all accounts, an upstanding citizen. but one focal point and another focal point, karachi, a southern port city in pakistan, where according to intelligence forces, there was a raid conducted in a house where faisal shahzad spent time over the past year and as many as three people are being detained and questioned at this hour as this investigation unfolds in pakistan. >> you talked to members of his family. what did they tell you? >> reporter: we found a cousin, and he said, look, the family are reeling, they're shocked about these developments certainly going to put this

family under severe scrutiny, despite what he said to u.s. authorities, this cousin says, this family was a good family, weren't engaged in criminal activity. let's listen to what the cousin had to say. >> these people, they never indulged in any criminal activities, not a family member, the village from which both of these people belongs, none of the village member involved in any criminal activities or jihad activity. >> that was faisal shahzad's cousin defending the family. it's a good bet this family will go through a tough few days and few weeks as pakistani investigators will want to find out as much as they can about this 30-year-old pakistani american. >> if he's claiming he received some kind of training or went to a terror camp in the waziristan area, how possible is that? does the pakistan

government -- how able are they to track who's going into these terror camps and coming out of them? obviously, they don't have freedom of movement necessarily in some of these areas. >> reporter: if indeed faisal shahzad is telling the truth and if indeed he invested some training in the waziristan area in the tribal region along the afghan border, it is not unusual, not the first time, one of the most troubling facts, this area, pakistani border, tribal belt is a safe haven, sanctuary of a host of militant groups. you have the pakistani taliban, afghan taliban, al qaeda linked groups, many of these groups declared their desire to kill americans either across the border in afghanistan or on western soil. is he linked to one of these groups? investigators will be working to find that out. >> reza, appreciate you

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as we touched on earlier, according to court documents, the suspect in the time square bombings said he received training in pakistan. we don't know if it's true but perhaps al qaeda was behind the plot and had some hand in it. al qaeda operates in pakistan and camps are called to jihad. among the fanatic warriors in this group's holy war, a young man from new york, a shy altar boy from the suburbs who became a terrorist. the question we want to know is how. nic robertson spent almost a year uncovering that answer. here's a preview of his special "360" report. >> reporter: this is penn station in the heart of new york.

at peak rush, more than 60,000 people churn through here every hour. 60,000 every hour. for al qaeda, penn station and the potential for a mass killing is a prize and daunting target. but then it seemed they got lucky. that's when this man, a young american, who grew up only 50 miles from here, made his way to pakistan, to offer his help. he is brian neal. and this is how a middle class kid suddenly transformed into a dangerous enemy of the state. >> bryant is almost a poster child for the process, the unremarkable nature of the people who might go through this process and the danger that presents. i spent the better part of the year here in the u.s. and europe

unraveling how and why bryant went from catholic to muslim, from u.s. army recruit to jihadist, from long island to lahore. he grew up on this street, in a middle class neighborhood on long island. his parents, latino immigrants, neither would go on camera with cnn, but a neighbor says as a boy, bryant was like part of her family. >> very sweet little boy. he could come here any time and he was welcomed here. >> reporter: regis knew him best. >> when we were younger, we used to go in the pool a lot. he was respectful. he'd make sure he didn't break any rules in the house. >> reporter: there was nothing remarkable about bryant's early childhood. his teachers remember him being a good student, quiet and shy. he loved baseball and swimming. on sundays, he was an altar boy, his father devoutly catholic. when he was 14 years old, it all

came crashing down. >> bryant's world shattered by his father leaving his mother. >> there were tears and temper tantrums, bryant started wearling with his sister, being disrespectful towards his mother and refused to accept his parents' separation. >> reporter: later, after high school, bryant was drawn to a friend's brother, an aspiring pro boxer and new convert to islam. >> he asked what is the koran? and my brother, he explained to him what it was. and he handed him the koran. >> how long did it take him to read it? >> not long, because he took every minute, every second reading that book. >> it's as if he had been searching for a new identity and now it's taking shape. it would soon jag wildly in another direction. of course no one could have guessed bryant's journey would

lead him to afghanistan and a plan to help al qaeda strike back home in new york. >> chilling. nic robertson found out a lot more and we'll have it next week. al qaeda, path to terror on ac360.com. next up is a story of murder in mississippi. killing of a white supremacist. was his life taken because of his extremist views or something else involved? "crime and punishment" report ahead.

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>> another victim was a white supremaci supremacist. his dill killer, a young african-american man who's on trial for his life in mississippi. it's a case with a few shocking surprises, especially about allegations being made by the alleged killer. here's randi kaye. >> usa, yes. mlk, no. >> reporter: the man in this video was one of the most vocal white supremists of all time. his name, richard barrett. he wanted african-americans sent back to africa. he also railed against homosexuals. but today, barrett is silent, murd murdered, says this man, because barrett, he says propositioned him for sex. he confessed to the crime. imagine the irony fit's true. a nationally recognized racist,

murdered for propositioning a black man for sex. a neighbor said he noticed smoke coming from barrett's home and called 911. authorities found his body in the kitchen. he had been burned over 35%. investigators say he had also been stabbed 16 times, mostly in the upper chest and neck. the home set on fire to cover up the crime. he could face the death penalty but hasn't entered a plea. in court, details of mcgee's confession were made public for the first time. >> he said barrett dropped his pants and asked him to perform a sexual about. he said he got upset, grabbed the radio, struck barrett several times, grabbed a knife from the kitchen and stabbed him. tied a belt around barrett's hands. during the struggle, he just

stabbed him until he quit moving. >> mike scott is mcgee's defense attorney. >> is it possible in your opinion that he might have concocted this story about being propositioned in order to defend himself against a capital murder charge? >> obviously anything is possible, but i don't believe that's the case here. >> reporter: he argues mcgee's motive was robbery. >> if the gilling was over unwanted second you'll advances, why was the wallet taken? >> this investigative reporter for the clarion ledger newspaper has known barrett since 1988. >> it was known in white supremist circles among some that he was gay. >> it is unbelievably common in the white supremist world to find people who are desperately anti-gay but secretly gay. barrett and mcgee were hardly strangers to each other. mcgee had done lawn work for barrett, just as he did the day

barrett was murdered. they both lived right here in this racially mixed neighborhood. mcgee lived with his mom. in fact, it was at mcgee's mother's house right here in the carport that police say they discovered sneakers covered in soot and the missing top to a gas can that they had found at barrett's home. police say mcgee is cooperating, that he even led them to what they believe is the murder weapon. randi kaye, cnn, pearl, mississippi. up next, building up america, bringing the perks of farming into the city. it's home grown foot for the masses and at affordable prices. i think i'll go with the preferred package.

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>> when you think of city life, you do not likely think of people growing fruit and vegetables, but that's what's sprouting up in downtown miami. that's tonight's "building up america" america. >> reporter: in the shadow of high rises, a garden of greens, turnips, broccoli and something called calaloo, or jamaican spinach. >> do you spook them or what? put them in a salad?

>> no, we cook them. you can put them in a salad, too. >> reporter: here, too, once a week on wednesday, small family farmers sell their produce. >> it's absolutely delicious. >> reporter: this is overtown, smack in the middle of downtown miami. a supermarket? not around here. in a unique way, this farmer's market fills that void. here, eddie stewart can use cash or his ebt card, known as food stamps, to fill his bag with fruits and vegetables. >> it's home grown, more fresh than anything else. you can't beat that. . >> and you can't beat the prices. for every $1 in food stamps. >> is 21 good? >> reporter: you get $2 worth of produce, even exotic fruits like l lokwat. it's a cross between an apple, a melon and a kiwi.

>> reporter: this the brain child of a chef michel. they're funded by donations and money from his foundation. the idea, give small family farmers an outlet for their locally-grown produce. try tamari. . >> you're eating the flesh around the seed. >> reporter: most importantly, this market provides fresh food if t at an affordable price to communities where access to groceries is limited. >> when you provide the access and the resources, both, miracles happen. it's pretty cool. >> you can pick up the overtown cookbook here, too. >> here we have a dessert. this is a mango banana smoothie with granola. students at the neighbor's booker t. washington high produced the book using recipes from home, but substituted healthy ingredients. >> instead of using