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own daughter testified against her. all next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. lawrence sunderland joins us. his daughter, 16-year-old abby set out to circumnavigate the glob m the world when she activated the emergency beacon on her boat. she was rescue add life two days later. now allegations sur fashi s sus done for a reality show. first, before we get to that. how is abby? >> abby is doing well. aboard a french fishing vessel at this time. and she is very relieved to be rescued. and the delayed shock is setting in a little bit of losing the vessel. >> where is she specifically? >> she is right in the middle of the indian ocean. heading to a little island, with

a sailing fishing vessel about 46 degrees south called kagula island. >> larry: when do you expect to see her? >> 10 to 14 days. transported to a french research vessel. and then she will be steaming towards a little island off madagascar where they have international flights. that will be the first time that we'll make contact with her. >> larry: do you live here? >> i live in thousand oaks, california. >> larry: where are you from originally? >> england. >> larry: who are you rooting for in the world cup? >> england. good result between england and the u.s. over the weekend. >> larry: how was abby rescued? >> it was -- a very interesting rescue. it was coordinated by the french, originally, from the island, then switched over to the australians out of perth that had an incredible just -- they -- they did an incredible job. abgail couldn't have been in a more obscure place in the world. she was 2,000 miles away from

perth, 2,000 miles away from south africa, and there was literally nothing around her apart from this island that was about 600 miles south of her. >> larry: have you spoken to her? >> absolutely. yes. >> larry: all right, the obvious. why would you let a 16-year-old daughter sail alone around the world? >> well, that's -- that's a question that has been raised by many people of course. rightly so. people that don't know the ocean. if they didn't ask me that question, there would be something wrong. but abgail and zach's upbringing have been very unique. >> larry: who is zach? >> zach is my oldest son. he successfully sir come and a half gated the world a year before being the youngest man and the first man under 18 to circumnavigate the world. so my whole life is in the yachting arena. i was raised with it. i did an apprenticeship with a boat builder as a young man, i work as a yacht manager in marina del rey.

it's my whole life. i have a great passion for the ocean. it carried through to my children. i love to be able to encourage them in this endeavor. however, they, they were raised with this. they cruised for three years. >> larry: whose idea was it? >> it was their idea. >> larry: how was your son involved with her journey? did he help her prepare and everything? >> zach helped abgail prepare. he advised her on a to, use. he was -- he was great. and when she pulled into south africa, she said "is zach coming?" it brought them very much closer together. >> larry: did she say to you one day, "dad, i want to do what zach did. i want to sail around the world alone." >> actually it was always abgail's idea. she wanted to do this from age 13 years old. of course at 13, evaluated the situation, it took one second. i said, you are too young at this ainge. let's see where it leads.

she started soloing in 35-foot crafts at that age, a young age. and over the years, i took her through some rougher and rougher, circumstances. and i, my goal was to dissuade her that the ocean is not really a friendly place. it doesn't care who you are or what you are or how old you are. when i took her through these trials, she just -- came through with flying colors. and when she was wet through and being on a yacht for over 24 hours with no sleep, and little food, and -- i would say, so are you ready to sail around the world now? to which she replied at 14 years old. show me my boat. >> larry: she is a minor at 16. could have prevented it? >> i could have prevented it. >> larry: you said originally you tried how to dissuade her? you had confidence she would do this? >> absolutely. >> larry: did you have total confidence in the boat? >> absolutely. >> larry: what went wrong? >> abgail got caught by a rogue wave. it was unfortunate. isabelle artissier, top sailors, got caught by a rogue wave in a

similar in stance in the indian ocean. is bell was in her 30s. abgail is 16. abgail handled everything perfectly. executed everything in a perfect way. an unfortunate circumstance that happened. >> larry: some people say all this was done as a stunt. was this done, this direct question, to get a reality show? >> that is absolutely ridiculous. my passion, first and foremost is for my children and their endeavors. it's absolutely ridiculous and unfounded. >> larry: earlier this evening the man who claims to have knowledge of the reality deal spoke to headline news. watch what he said. >> larry did not figure out the proper power consumption of the vessel, didn't figure out a lot of things, he basically pushed her out. he, for a sponsorship deadline. she had to stop in cabo. team abby already knew she was going to have to stop. and he basically put batteries

and fuel and all these things to the boat, auto pilots didn't work correctly throughout the voyage. when she got down near cape horn, and, you know, we basically from what i saw in caboch we had a deal with a company, revele. when i got back. shooting the stuff for a potential reality show. we were freeing to sell to a network. after what i saw in cabbo. i came back. had a meeting with revele and pulled the plug on it. >> larry: is he lying? >> ted calarosa, first has a personal vendetta against me. it is farcical. he got up at -- before i left, and told everybody how proud he was to be a part of it that was when he thought he was going to make money out of the endeavor. >> larry: did you have a deal with him? >> a shopping aagreement. >> larry: shop what to a network? >> shop a reality tv show. it was supposed to be inspirational, reality tv show

based on zach and abgail as being an inspiration to the youth of today. which i am all for by the way. i think if there is something that's great and inspirational, that could pluck these kids away from computers. >> larry: you said there wasn't a reality show? >> there is not a reality show now. there was a reality show shopping agreement that we had. >> larry: an agreement with a company and they would shop it to the network. you had a deal whiff the network took it. >> magnetic had a shopping aagreement before abgail left to shop a reality tv show. based on zach and abigail. that was null and void when they realize they'd couldn't get a deal. and ted, and chris bates' partnership split up because ted wanted to take this in an unethical direction which we would not be a part of. >> larry: unethical, how? >> he was going to try to exploit me and throw me under

the bus as an irresponsible parent that knew nothing about yachting and boating. which is something i have been involved in. >> larry: how is he going to make money doing that? >> basing it on abigail dying going around cape horn. >> larry: she had to die. >> according to chris bates. >> larry: we'll take a break and come back with more with laurence sunderland. don't go away. you know, when i grow up, i'm going to own my own restaurant. i want to be a volunteer firefighter. when i grow up, i want to write a novel.

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the balloon boy? who pulled the hoax to get a reality show? >> i just think it is ridiculous, you know, it really is ridiculous. if there was any merit in that, i would be able to get into it. it is absolutely farcical. this is about two young people, zach, who completed the journey and is a hero. and abigail caught by a rogue wave and her vessel sustain herd life and she followed safety procedures to the letter and t and was rescued. >> larry: did you talk to her every kind? what phone did she have? >> a satellite telephone. we speak twice a day. giving her updates of weather and information. speaks to one of the tech guys every day as well. and she sends over all of the pertinent information, weather, mechanical information. >> larry: were any companies involved in sponsoring this? >> yeah, there were. shoe city was first to jump in very early on in the stages. and we are very thankful for

their sponsorship. and then cocorian theaters, s.s. aqua friends, and lucky cat tv are all part of another of the sponsorship. >> larry: is it ever going to be a television thing? >> you know, is it ever going to be a television thing. my premise for that is, if it is going to be inspirational, and it is going to -- >> larry: you known what, reledge urele religious? >> not necessarily. inspiration to young folks to peel them from their come pumenter games and get out there and do something. why not? i am all for inspire young people. as i have the been an inspiration to zach and abigail. >> larry: why didn't you do a tv deal with zach? >> you know, there was talk of -- various opportunities, but none of them have come to fruition. >> larry: why does this guy have a vendetta against you? >> you know, to be honest with you. >> larry: you were his friend?

>> beg your pardon? >> larry: you were once his friend? >> he professed to be a friend of ours. he came in the inner circle. he was trying to find out bad stuff about us and throw us under the truck. >> larry: about what, selling it to someone? selling a bad story about you? >> absolutely. that's his agenda, i believe. because there is no merit. he knows nothing about the yachting arena. this guy has never actually stepped foot on a yacht or sailed on a boat prior to his involvement with us. >> larry: didn't he say, when he wanted to do a documentary, you didn't want that. you want aid reality show? >> no, i didn't say that. initially they were, they had a reality tv show based on abigail and zach, shopping agreement. >> larry: the boat would have been just part of the show? >> yeah, absolutely. and -- and then they, wanted to film for the documentary, they would use some of the footage they had for a documentary. but that had not been signed. that was a -- just a -- kind of

something that was spoken about and talked about. by the way, i think, something of this magnitude that abigail has undertaken and zach has undertaken, should be a documentary. people should know about this. >> larry: if she is all alone who is filming her? >> she has been filming herself. she has five cameras on board. right now she basically stepped off the boat with the clothes on her back and passport. >> larry: is she depressed, down? >> you know, she is a remarkable young lady. she has some delayed shock, yes, definitely. getting used to the reality that her home, her yacht, something that sustained her over halfway around the world, around cape corn, around the cape of good hope is gone. adrift in the indian ocean. but she is so thankful for the australian search-and-rescue and the french search-and-rescue efforts that came and plucked her off her compromised boat. >> larry: we are thankful for you coming over and telling us about it. >> thank you, larry.

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>> larry: breaking news for you, an air force spokesperson says two individuals were trying to make an illegal entry on to macdill air force base. there is currently a 500 foot quaurden around their car, probing its interior with a robot. the two people are in custody and being questioned. that's what we have for now. we'll get more information to you when we get it. macdill air force base in tampa, florida. tonya craft, a former kindergarten teacher was found not guilty last month of 22 charges in an emotional child molestation case that divided the small community in georgia.

one of the three children who testified against her was her own daughter. she lost custody of her two children and is now still fighting to get them back. tonya craft is here with us tonight in our studios. so is a doctor, tonya craft's attorney as well as david craft, tonya's husband. take us back now, this started innocently enough when children slept over the house. what was the situation that occurred that night? awe actually i'm not completely sure. even when the prosecution presented their case they never gave a clear-cut definitive time. >> larry: basically the story was what? >> basically the story was that there were children at my home and when they were at my home they were given baths and inappropriate touching happened during bath time. >> larry: were they your students? >> one was my student. they both were friend of my

daughter. >> larry: how old were the girls? >> at the time they were -- well, the actual allegations were several years. so like as far as the span went. they were anywhere from 4 to 6 years old. >> larry: this was taking place over a number of months and years? >> number of years, yes, sir. >> larry: how did they come about to charge you? who came forward to say, mrs. craft is bothering us? >> that actually is another situation that's not definitive. there were multiple stories that the prosecution's witnesses told. there were multiple adults that said that they were told first by one of the children. and then the children told different stories. and actually the interviewers told different stories as well. >> larry: how did they come to arrest you? >> apparently one of the mothers of of one of the children went to the authorities made phone calls talked to other parents actually made some threats with some other parents in order to --

>> larry: to file charges against you. >> yes. >> larry: what grade do you teach? >> i taught kindergarten. >> larry: did you know the girls from school? >> yes, i knew the girls from school. i knew their parents. like i said they befriended, had become friends with my daughter and my children. >> larry: you have two children, three children of your own? >> i have two. >> larry: a daughter and a -- >> son, yes. >> larry: they're not with you now, right? >> currently know. >> larry: how old is the daughter? >> 8. >> larry: the son? >> 11. >> larry: the 8-year-old testified against you. >> yes, sir. >> larry: larry, call me larry. >> okay. >> larry: what did your 8-year-old say you did? >> i put medicine on my child. >> larry: what? >> medicine on my child for a diaper rash type of scenario. and to be quite honest, i'm not, i would have to go back and look at the transcripts because i

was, that -- it had been close to 700 days since i had seen my daughter. and it was very, very emotional while she was on the stand. >> larry: they took the daughter and son away from you when the charges were filed. >> yes, sir. >> larry: where are they? >> with their daughter. >> larry: you are separated or divorced? >> divorced yes. >> larry: your 8-year-old testified that she sexually did things to her or attempted her, what, i know it is cloudy, what do you remember she said? >> i remember that we, we actually played the interview of the first interview and -- and the gist of it was that she had some stomach problems. i put medication on my child to take care of my child. >> larry: what did you do to the other child, supposedly. >> i was going to say nothing. >> larry: what did they say? >> they said there was touching and there was penetration.

>> larry: penetration, snow. >> vaginally. and i had them touch my breast is what the allegations. there were 22 counts. >> larry: was awful this a total shock to you? >> absolutely, yes. >> larry: david, are you her second husband? >> i am her third husband, larry. >> larry: these are not your children? >> no. >> larry: you were married at the time the charges were filed? >> yes, we were. >> larry: what did you make of this? >> it's been a very difficult time for the last two years. >> larry: no kidding. were you shocked? >> yes. we were, we were actually separated at the time. and we reconciled after that. >> larry: back together now? >> yes. >> larry: were you in court when the verdict came down? >> yes, i was. >> larry: we'll take a break. and bring in dr. larondose, to explain, through how with all the testimony she was not guilty. she wants her two children back. there were developments in court

today. we'll be right back.

>> larry: we're back. by the way the doctor is a psychologist and an attorney both. he practices all over the united states, based in ann arbor. you are going to get paid if this is sold into a movie. you haven't been paid, have you? >> no comment. >> larry: this had to be a very expensive. >> extremely expensive to bring this kind of defense together, yes. >> larry: how did you win this having her own daughter testify against her? >> tonya pulled a legal team together and insisted on experts to be able to tell the jury how these things happened. we had carrie king and scott king from atlanta, we had clancy covert from tennessee. >> larry: these are who? >> lawyers, very good lawyers. tonya showed up on my doorstep and insisted that i come down

and run the team. >> larry: how did you know about dr. lorandos, tonya. >> i had throughout -- with the allegationize was proactive. i researched. i had come to california at one time and met with john van de campe, he handled the bakersfield case. in my research i had found where he had testified as an expert where dr. lorandos testified as an expert. i was impressed. with no return phone calls or e mails. i decided to get in the car and show up. >> larry: heck of a client here. all right. what did it? >> i never take these cases unless the clientspolygraphs, good polygraphs, unless i believe in them. i've don't need to. i have a very small litigation team. we are very aggressive litigators, we are very busy. but tonya showed up and told me the story of what happened. and told me what she had done in terms of meeting the people that had been through this before. she actually went and talked to

the people that, sean penn did a documentary about. >> larry: people falsely charged? >> yes, she talked to the victims, the children now adults that had been manipulated into this talked to many of the nationally renowned experts. >> larry: the mcmartin case. those children were manipulated. i interviewed the children. i remember they were manipulated. >> i remember that you did. i was teaching psychology at the time. i remember that you did that. you were as shocked as all of us. >> larry: halfway through the show, i knew that the kids were not lying. they were being coached. >> it was pretty clear that you picked that up immediately. unfortunately, larry, the kinds of interviews that were done in tonya's case and done repeatedly throughout the country put ideas into kids' heads so that the kids are victims of false memory. >> larry: who was after her? >> well -- >> larry: the child had to come home and say something the parent wouldn't just say, well. >> actually, i got to cross-examine the children. and the story. >> larry: how old when you

cross-examined? >> 8 and 10 when i cross-examined them. and the -- the stories that came out were that the children said innocent things and that the parents questioning them repeatedly, over and over and over again and suggesting that ms. tonya had done something to them caused the children to eventually conform their stories to the parents' questions. >> larry: who was suggesting it to her daughter? >> her ex-husband, repeatedly, over and over. her daughter never said her mommy did terrible things or bad things to her when originally questioned. the idea of bad and medicine were paired by the interviewer and were paired by the ex-husband. mommy and bad, bad and mommy, medicine is bad. >> larry: medicine applied to the parts of body? >> of course. of course. and so, at, this was done by the interviewers, this was done by the father, this was done repeatedly and so the child testified that mommy put medicine on me and it was bad.

mommy did this. mommy did that. but she never testified that mommy had penetrated her or had any sexual motive. just testified about the paring. >> larry: how were you reacting during all of this, david, in court? >> i was actually outside the courtroom. i was a witness in the trial. >> larry: why were you a witness? >> because i was around, married to tonya, around the children. >> larry: he testified for the defense that he never saw anything. >> david was an excellent witness. a truer guy you couldn't find. he sat there and endured trelen d -- tremendously vicious cross-examination. she didn't do it. she would never do it. this would never happen. i was there. the kids weren't there. unfortunately the two little girls convinced this happened to them and now they're really vick ties of this process, testified, about things that happened when david and other people were there. they weren't w. >> larry: did the parents testify? >> yes, they did. >> larry: they weren't there.

what did they have to say? >> they -- well, tonya has filed a federal lawsuit in which she says, quite clearly, that they perjured themselves. lied about what had occurred. >> larry: parents other than the ones manipulated? you say parents, she is one of the parents. >> that is correct. the parents of the two little -- the two main accusing parents. >> larry: the father? >> yes. the people that were involved in repeatedly questioning and manipulating the children are all the subject of the lawsuit that tonya filed to try to put a stop to this business. >> larry: did, in your opinion, the prosecution jump the gun? in other words should they have prosecuted this case? would you? that is hard to be objective? >> i testified as an expert for the prosecution for a decade. i quit being a psychologist and went to law school to try to put a stop to this business.

not only did they jump the gun, it is our sense that they fraudulently created evidence that they did terrible things to the families and children and according to the community been duke it for years. >> larry: why don't you have your children back? >> of the unfortunately in thes situations, that's what happens i want america to know. when these allegations come out your children are taken from you in a matter of one second. >> larry: guilty before innocent? >> guilty until proven innocent. i honestly feel like i am having to prove my innocence over and over. >> larry: do you get to see your kids? >> on occasions. >> larry: what does your son think of all this? >> i don't talk about it. >> larry: he doesn't? >> it's just a normal, just, having fun, relaxed, normal, normal parent natural fun time. >> larry: what do the other lawyers do in this case.

you mention others that assisted? >> these are very competent criminal defense lawyers. you can imagine the egos in the room. trying to pull the team together. these guys were tremendous. terrific lawyers. they pitched in on cross-examinations. helped write all of the legal preference material. they constantly, insisted that the i go back and -- redo the stuff that i had written. it was a very, well function team. >> david seems look a reserved quiet guy. you are saying he was a terrific witness? >> he was a heck of a witness. >> larry: they never broke him down? >> david is an honest guy who started in his company pushing the broom and 28 years later is the executive vice president. david is as honest as the day is long the he was there. he saw it. he loves his wife. he admitted on the stand that, that he was at fault and she never quit on him, he quit on her, and beg ford a

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. >> larry: are you saying, doctor, there are a lot of cases like this. people falsely accused of touching children, teachers and others? >> if they would just listen to the interview that you did back in the mcmartin era, watch that again all those many years ago and realize that the 9th circuit left the families hanging out to dry. then the 9th circuit didn't do anything abow tut the ke acharn case. there are many true stories about parents trying to change the system and getting nowhere

because activist judges simply won't follow the law the legislature wrote. >> larry: tonya, you are a teacher, you are bright, what does a parent do if her 7-year-old daughter comes home and says, mommy, my -- my teacher touched me in my private tuesday? what does she do? >> absolutely. you look into it. >> larry: by doing what? >> one you, do not question the child. you take them to a qualified interviewer, forensic interviewer. by qualified i don't mean two day's training. i mean look into the resume. figure out who is qualified. take them. and get to the bottom of the truth. figure out what the truth is with, with you being unbiased and going to an interviewer that is unbiased that wants to find the truth. >> larry: and in some case that does happen, right? >> absolutely. and if it does happen then it needs to be addressed completely. >> larry: how did you emotionally handle this?

your own daughter? >> well the emotions have been up and down. there have been thousand of tears. there have been research as i discussed earlier that helped me emotionally, as far as research and learning what to do. and i intend to go back to law school. >> larry: tonya testified in her own defense. let's hear a little of that. watch. >> do you think it is a conspiracy? >> actually i think it is kind of offensive to use that word. i think what has happened is more than a travesty. i think that the experts have explained how something this horrible can happen. but i think there is a lot of thing that have been done wrong. but i did not do anything to these children. >> you molest a child if you touch a child's genitalia, inappropriately you are a child molester. >> if you do that, if you do that, yes. >> larry: was the prosecution

rough on you, tonya? >> the prosecution was not just rough on me. they attacked my friend. they attacked my family. >> larry: other people testified for you? >> absolutely. i had more people, we had more people that would testify for me. they attacked my character. completely. they made things up. there were complete lies by prosecution's witnesses along. >> they had a -- against you. >> they made things up and attacked my character to the point that it was not even seemingly about the children anymore. >> larry: you weren't allowed to teach once the charges were filed? >> no, i was not. >> larry: can you teach now? >> at this point i am fighting to get my certificate back. because i will fight that fight. >> larry: why was your certificate not given back the day you were found not guilty. >> a very good question. and not guilty is the beginning of the fight not the end. >> larry: why not, doctor, i don't understand that. isn't not guilty the end?

>> no. in these cases once you have been accused, you are forever tarnished. and that's why we are trying to get, trying to cause changes in the way children are interviewed. because these kids that have been put through this process, not just tonya's daughter but the two other little girls have been badly damaged by this process. >> larry: two other girls and tonya's daughter. three altogether. >> yes. the jurors who have come forward and talked to us since this were outraged at the kind of things the prosecution did in this case. and have asked to help with the process of reconciliation and seeing that this never happens again. >> larry: let's hear the dramatic moment when you were found not guilty. watch. >> we, the jury, find the defendant, count number one, not

guilty. count number two, not guilty. count number three, not guilty. count number four, not guilty. count number 21, not guilty. count number 22, not guilty. this 11th day of may, 2010, signed -- >> larry: frankly, were you a little shocked? >> no. i trusted the jury. i am a litigator. this is what i do. >> larry: were you shocked? you knew you were innocent to yourself. still your daughter testified. >> i knew i was innocent. i researched. these cases are prosecuted. and i was scared but i had gotten to the point that i had accepted. i would fight whether there was a guilty or not guilty. i would fight until my last breast to prove my innocent. >> larry: what was it punishable by? >> she was looking at hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years of imprisonment.

and that's why we are trying how to get the federal courts to step in -- >> larry: and do what? >> well, and follow the law the way congress wrote it. the people that -- that have done this to tonya, tonya filed a lawsuit against them to try to put a stop to this. the people that have done this to tonya. as we speak are racing to the courthouse to make certain that i don't talk to another jury, to make certain that tonya's claims never see a jury. and if they get -- an activist judge that won't follow the law that was laid down. >> larry: what are you -- suing? >> we are suing to get the federal courts to step in and stop this. suing to get the people that did this to tonya to pay her back for what they did. >> larry: suing for money? >> to endow a foundation to see to it that these people get properly educated and does in happen to another set of children. >> larry: david, were you shocked at the verdict? >> i won't say i was shocked. i refused to prepare for

anything else. i honestly wasn't prepared if the outcome had been different. i know it was very much a possibility fee. but i just refused to consider it. >> larry: your phone calls for tonya are next. has gingko for memory and concentration plus support for bone and breast health. a great addition to my routine. [ female announcer ] one a day women's. i can't wait to just sit by the pool and relax. yea. [loud music playing and yelling]

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of the hour, larry. >> that's ac 36010:00 eastern, 7:00 p.m. the president will address the nation tomorrow. we have some phone calls, the first is lake mary, california. >> caller: i have a question for tonya. >> larry: go ahead. >> caller: were you harassed by the community based on character assassination or gang stalking? >> actually, to my surprise, the support has been phenomenal, i've had support from all over the world, all over the united states, i've had thousands of e-mails. >> how would they know to support you based on these terrible allegations. >> i have a friend who created a website called truth for tonya, people had gotten to know about the website. i get calls today, we can't go

anywhere without people saying their entire household was crying when they heard the verdict. and i didn't know the individuals. it's been humbling, the support. it's been amazingly surprising. >> larry: isn't it in most cases like this, the support is the other way? >> yes. >> larry: the little children that were harmed? >> we're supported the children that were harmed. we're trying to put a stop to this to see that little children aren't harmed like this again. we're the first ones who actually harm the children to be nailed down on the 405 and driven over. >> larry: who harmed the children? >> we had nancy aldridge there, bill burnett there, some of the best experts in the country. their idea was that the overzealous questioning, the questioning trying to involve tonya in this somehow was picked up by the interviewers and

repeated where tonya was vilified and the children were manipulated, that's what harmed the children, and going over and over again. they actually gave the children a therapist that was mentally ill, and then tried to conceal she was mentally ill, who then per injured herself about her mental illness. i tried to bring that into court and got blocked every chance. >> larry: we'll be back, don't go away. i had a heart problem.

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>> larry: we have more on the breaking news from mcgill air force base where two were arrested tonight. bowe, what's the latest on this? i'm sorry, we lost beau. i hope we can get him back, if not, we will be following it throughout the night. two men arrested in a car at

macdill air force base in tampa. you're going to see sonya tomorrow? do you think this will be a made for tv movie? >> yes. the more people that know about it the more kids we can protect. somebody's got to put a stop to this. >> you expect to get your kids back? >> i'm going to fight until i do, yes? >> why do you have to fight? >> once again, that's a good question. >> you're an innocent person? >> absolutely. >> larry: you're a licensed schoolteacher? >> she has to fight because tennessee has a law about what's best for her children. tennessee has a good law, good jurisdicti jurisdiction, that's why she's fighting. >> larry: why does she have to fight? >> in crazy family circumstances, the judge is in a terrible position, has to take in all the evidence, has to get good evidence and make the best decision for the kids. that's why she wants to fight.

>> larry: we have beau zimmer back on the phone in tampa. what's the latest on this incident? >> they have the entire south end of macdill air force base shut down right now. this is the bayshore gate, they had a light colored suv that pulled into the gate and stopped by security officers 37 at that point we don't know what happened, but they started unloading everything out that suv, including a number of -- what should be sniper rifles, large ammunition, military paraphernalia, and we're waiting right now for more work from macdill air force base as to what all this means? and why the vehicle was stopped. >> larry: did it try to get through the gate? >> it does not appear that it tried to ram the gate or anything like that. but we don't know exactly what happened when it approached the gate, why it was stopped. why it wasn't allowed to continue on in. all we can say is, for some

reason, they did stop this vehicle and found something suspicious, they actually had a robot and some bomb squad type technicians approach the vehicle a couple hours ago, they circled the vehicle and they've been looking at it ever since. >> were there two men in it? >> i don't have official word on that? i heard reports of that, but don't have that confirmed yet. >> you don't know if they've taken any people out of the car or held them for questioning or anything? >> yeah, we talked to one of the military police, detectives on scene, he could provide us no information, said just wait, we have a military spokesperson on the way out to us, and we're waiting official word on all that. >> larry: is macdill right in tampa? >> it's on the very southern tip of tampa, it borders up against the city's limits of tampa, and tampa police were actually looking, diverting traffic away from this particular entrance gate. it is the very southern tip of tampa, and also we can tell you that there are-