we never know when our last word may come. i beg of you, put family, friends, with your council of dads and whatever adventures you take, i'll whisper in your ear, i'll be gently nudging you on your own, take trips, girls, take chances, take off. and every now and then take a walk for me and then, take a walk for me. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, the viva kathy griffin, always outrageous. >> what do you think if i dumped levi johnston for eric menendez? all right, fine. unleash the beaver on me. >> larry: and forever outspoken, about everything. >> i'm not going to lie.

>> larry: what's it like to have her? >> well -- >> you better lie. >> larry: hang on, look out. >> i don't care anymore. go ahead, tweet me. >> larry: next, on "larry king live." kathy griffin is the emmy-winning star of "my life on the d list." her latest comedy bravo special kathy griffin does the bible belt this week. her number one "new york times" best seller is now out in paperback, i have it in my hot hands. debuts june 15th. let's take a sneak peek at that show. >> hi, everybody! this season on "my life on the d

list" i'm going to alaska to find love. >> oh! >> i am pulling out all the stops. i'm doing stuff only a real diva can pull off. never done on television. the first public pap smear on tv. how about don't ask don't tell? oh, i have one more thing. yeah! >> i smell emmy here. >> larry: kathy griffin. so what distinguishes season six from season five or four? >> we are really kicking it up a notch, larry. all right. now, here's -- okay, i'm doing something on my show that you've never done. >> larry: what's that? >> have you ever gotten, after 25 years, of a distinguished career, have you ever gotten a pap smear on this show? in your face, king. yeah, that's got to hurt. >> larry: no.

>> yeah, you talked to obama last week. >> larry: no, no pap smear. i've never worn a dress either on this show. >> what? you and lebron james didn't put on matching dresses? there's nothing i won't do is the point. >> larry: i get that. how long is this reality show going to go on? >> until the day i die. until oprah kills me. which i think we know is imminent. i think we know that's -- >> larry: why does she hate you? >> you know why? because i see through her. because i get her. i've lifted the mask off. and i see what's inside. do you know what's inside? >> larry: what do you see? >> i think stedman is missing. i think stedman is missing. have you ever seen stedman? >> larry: yes, he's been on this show. >> was he a hollow gram or a person? >> larry: a person, i think. >> are you sure? >> larry: i can't swear. >> exactly. >> larry: i got it. >> i also believe ryan seacrest is out to get me. >> larry: why do you think so?

>> because she makes fun of me sometimes. >> larry: did you say her? >> yes. i'm starting right out the gate. >> larry: you recently did an emmy round table of reality stars for the hollywood reporter. you said you think your show edits you to be nicer. explain. >> a lot of these reality folks come on talk shows and they say, well, if i was the villain or if i said something ridiculous, they edit it that way. i think on my show, they actually edit me very fairly. maybe too fairly. i'm not that nice. >> larry: you think they make you look nicer than you are? >> a little bit. >> larry: can't you run your own show? >> no, i have no power or authority over it at all. i'm not buying that at all. i think -- first of all, can i talk to -- is it camera one? >> larry: yeah. >> america and global audience, you should know -- i just called you gary king -- >> larry: that's okay. >> am i going to lose an emmy for that? i take it back, gary. gary, don't interrupt me.

anyway, larry king just fired three people. >> larry: i did not. >> and it's made me ner vufs. and now i have -- >> larry: you want to know something, griffin? you want to hear something that will kill you and shock you? >> what? >> larry: i've been on the air 53 years. >> what? >> larry: i have never fired a person in my life. domestic -- >> there are two men crying in the men's room -- all right. all right. >> larry: you recently took out this -- this is the ad of the year. >> you're not supposed to say that i took it out. you're supposed to say the network took it out. >> larry: i'm sorry. >> but they didn't. >> larry: took out the ad in your underwear. now, is this your real body? >> it's my real body. but i am airbrushed almost beyond recognition. which is what i prefer. so i did a photo shoot with mike ruiz, who is a great photographer, and he was trying to have me channel betty page. >> larry: do you think this will get you an emmy award?

>> i know i'm dating myself a little bit, but if i could just buy one, i would. >> larry: what did she do with the golden globe? >> i think she bought it back. didn't she? those are the days. you could just buy them. now you have to earn it. >> larry: kathy griffin does the bible belt this week on bravo. >> so sure enough i'm doing a show in nashville, and then i get a call from a local police officer the day of the show. miss griffin, i hear there's going to be a protest at your show tonight. and i said, oh, what time? so anyway, i get to the show and i'm all excited about my protest. the protest in nashville was two sweet little old ladies with a card table and some kind of sign saying something bad about me. and then here's the best part, they had baked cookies and were handing them out. now, you know those [ bleep ] turned on me and took that

cookies. so fast. those gays are like, you're right, i think she's awful. thank you. >> larry: you're funny. >> have you ever been protested? >> larry: yes. >> what? for what? >> larry: when i won a -- what was it, the -- >> you don't even remember your awards and accolades? you have so many that you can't recall them? >> larry: it was a peabody in new york. one for radio, one for television. and the radio peabody had a guy protesting saying i'm unfair to listeners, walking around with a sign. because i hung up on him once. >> once? he should be here today. he should see what happened in the commercial. >> larry: stop that. >> i'm frightened for people. >> larry: what are you doing in the bible belt? >> exactly. you know, fish out of water. that's the type of story it is. because when i play those markets, you know, i have -- >> larry: nashville. >> no, that was knoxville. nashville is like chelsea in manhattan compared to knoxville. and, you know, i find that the

audiences there are even more enthusiastic, so i said that's it, i'm doing my next special in the bible belt. i'm taking it on. let me tell you something, the open-minded people and the people that like a laugh and the gay people made the drive. >> larry: kathy's got some unusual fans. one of them, by the way, is a convicted killer. you'll see who that is. and what he did for her, next. >> hmm, that's a cliff-hanger. ef the most expensive schools in the country! [ male announcer ] when stress gives you heartburn with headache... alka-seltzer gives you relief fast. [ low male ] plop, plop. [ high male ] fizz, fizz.

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>> larry: the irrepressible kathy griffin. has some unusual fans. some even send her gifts. you brought an example with you. give us the back story. >> i hope you're ready for this. >> larry: this is a terrific painting. i liked it. >> i was at my house, because when you first look at it, you're thinking, oh, she's one of those people that has a portrayed of herself. but then take a closer look at the artist. >> larry: the artist is eric menendez. >> ring a bell, larry? >> larry: one of the menendez brothers. >> yes. >> larry: convicted to life in prison for killing his parents. >> well, i don't know the details of the case. i would say it's not going -- i don't think the reloading helped. but i don't know if it's for life. you never know. >> larry: he may get out. >> and he did a very nice portrait. >> larry: very nice. were you thrilled with this? >> of course. as a comedienne, it's heaven for

me. i mean, when i saw that painting come, i thought, okay, this is a nice painting. what the heck am i going to do with a painting of myself, that's weird. and when i looked down and saw eric menendez, this has to be framed. >> larry: that could be big money. >> what? >> larry: a famous convicted -- >> what do you think if i dumped levi johnston for eric menendez? >> larry: big money. >> and maybe a step closer to an emmy? peabody? >> larry: peabody is a possibility. >> if i marry eric menendez, would you have us two on your show. >> larry: he's married. >> lyle was married and they got divorced because he was cheating on her through correspondence. that's a rough gig. when you've married a guy who is in prison for life -- >> larry: cheats on you by mail. let's discuss some other things. >> okay. >> larry: in our next segment we're going to discuss my 25th anniversary week. >> i didn't miss a minute. >> larry: i'm going to ask you questions i asked them. >> what? >> larry: but first, lindsay

lohan -- >> i need one of those ankle bracelets. i don't know if you have any hookups or anybody in your beverly hills mafia. i would do black tar heroin or crystal methamphetamines or whatever is the trendy, oxycontin, whatever it would take. if i could be photographed with one of those ankle bracelets, it could only help propel my career and make me more interesting. now, my mother's going to be on later which makes me almost as nervous as your moods. which everyone knows -- >> larry: stop. >> and i think that my mother enjoys the box of wine, which she'll deny. it's a little game we play, you'll see. but my dream is to get my mother on the next cast of celebrity rehab and have her wearing an ankle bracelet and monitor her. >> larry: she's going to be -- >> she's fine. >> larry: what do you make of the sandra bullock break-up? >> it's interesting because my

comedian friends are saying, are you going to go for sandy bullock? the comedy isn't making fun of sandra bullock, the comedy is the mistress, bombshell. i don't think that's her baptismal name, i think she made that up. and the nazi hat. that's the comedy. and he's the comedy, with that picture, with this business. and when he goes on "nightline" and says maybe it was funny at a party. you know what? bad answer. maybe you should have been coached better by your attorneys. >> larry: what about justin beaver? >> are you a believer? >> larry: am i a believer in beaver? >> yes. do you have a crush on him? >> larry: name one hit song. >> girl you're looking fine today. all right. fine. unleash the beaver army on me. but you know he has like -- i think he has more followers than

you on twitter. >> larry: i would not be surprised. >> i'm sure. will you please follow me at kathy griffin? >> larry: we do follow you. do you follow me? >> no, i'm too big. that's right. by the way, how simpler is this moment when you were in the white house talking to obama and the gardeners were behind you. that was a nice touch. did you notice that? >> larry: no, i was concentra concentrating on the president. you're hooked on this "real housewives" show. >> i'm hooked on the housewives of every city. >> larry: what's the appeal of that show? >> i can't help it. i love reality shows. i love scripted shows as well. but i love the reality shows, because, you know, people will say and do anything. and i get caught up in the drama. like for example, who's your favorite person on the hills. >> larry: on the who? >> the hills? like do you feel like kristen this year is fake about her relationship with brody? or do you feel like she's really heart broken? and what's it like for you to go

online and see she's with levine? we're supposed to believe she -- >> larry: you're discounting something. the inner feelings of brody. you left that out. >> i need a minute. >> larry: i cried. >> i know. >> larry: and you didn't when you mentioned it. >> like it was nothing. >> larry: he was my favorite person on the sho. >> i know you ha a bromance with him. >> larry: she'll be in vegas july 10th. i might be there, too. >> please come see me, lar.

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>> so i'm thinking it can't get any better and sharon stone walks up. by the way, she is dressed up to the nines. she has the hair slicked back, makeup on. she is wearing a black sequin mini dress. she has the ridiculous body of death. and her face looks great. i don't know if she has been to the dentist. i know she absolutely hates me and here's why. whenever i make a joke at her expense, she always goes like this -- [ laughter ]

isn't she great. >> larry: our guest is kathy griffin, the extraordinary kathy griffin. i really adore her, despite it looks like fighting and stuff and she kids a lot. okay. before she went on, she told my crack crew who i was not mean to, she told my crack crew that she was upset that i didn't ask her questions like i asked during our anniversary week of the other guests. so i will ask you some of the questions. >> because i watched every moment of it. i watch the show every night. and, you know, it's such distinguished company that if i'm trying to be on the a-list, i'd like to think that the next interview -- >> larry: this question. you wanted this asked of you. it makes no sense, but i'll ask. >> who did you ask it of? >> larry: lady gaga. >> who i love of course. >> larry: you were on "time" magazine's 100 list of the most influential people in the world. were you surprised at this? see, how can you answer that? you weren't on the cover. you wanted me to ask that question. it's embarrassing to you. >> larry.

>> larry: see what i mean? >> i was on the cover, and i was so proud to be on the cover of "time" magazine promoting "my life on the d-list" june 15th. and i feel that i influence people with my jokes about naughty parts. >> larry: i see. thank you, lady. and now we go to bill gates. and this question was asked of bill gates. >> i can handle any question bill gates can handle. >> larry: what is it like knowing you changed the world? >> well, it's a thrill. it's a thrill for me knowing when i started tinkering with computers when i was 4 years old i knew technology would change to the point where you're going to be able to walk into a room and a computer is going to say "had larry." >> larry: you did watch the show. >> every minute of it. >> larry: by the way, what do you think of walking into a room and a computer says hi? >> it frightens me. >> larry: me too. >> i don't want anyone to say hi or even make eye contact. >> larry: i don't want that world. >> no thank you. >> larry: now we go to president of the united states. >> there is no question that obama had that i can't handle. >> larry: okay. what are your plans for the oil

spill? >> all right. i'm not a scientist. i never said i was. i would say that if you just started by stuffing the hole just with anderson cooper's t-shirts and shirts, it would take about two days. because every night it's a new prada shirt, and they're all very nicely tailored. >> larry: what do you make of that, the t-shirt for anderson cooper? >> first of all he is hot and gorgeous and has a perfect body that is shaped like a v. he's like a superhero. i don't know that he is real either. i think he might be like stedman graham where we think he is real, but he could be a hologram. >> larry: you like his hair? >> he is perfect. of course i do. >> larry: lebron james. the great basketball star. >> what does she do. baseball? here is what i asked of you. >> okay. >> larry: living in the projects, how did you stay out of gangs? >> well, i kept it reals. i found that if i found my homies, jesus, of course is my -- jesus is my homeboy. and after that i kept it reals with the peeps. and then i would -- i would hit -- i would start with my beat box, and i would take to it the bridge. >> larry: gotcha.

finally, the question i asked of the american idols. who would you most like to sing a duet with? >> well, naturally i would like to sing a duet with rosemary clooney, but she's dead. >> larry: let's skip to the next one. then who alive? >> i would like to sing a duet with celine dion. a france. >> larry: who? >> celine dion. >> larry: oh, celine. >> and her husband. and her bebe. >> larry: she is going to have twins. what do you make of that? >> i can't even sleep nights, i'm so excited. >> larry: the fun couple, kathy and levi johnston still can't get enough of each other. an update on their relationship. an update on their relationship. you'll see it here next.

so, i have some news. >> what's that? >> you know how every year we go on exciting trips, right? we've gone to -- >> jamaica. >> yes. >> bora bora. >> yes.

well, we're going on another team trip. >> tropical? >> like hawaii? >> wasilla, alaska. it's in alaska. >> larry: we're back. levi johnston shows up on the new season of "life on the d list." actually, kathy shows up in alaska. let's take a look. >> by the state of alaska, you guys are married! >> go ahead, tiger. show me your moves. >> give it a little pop up. let it down. ♪ >> i could really get used to this. after spending the day ice fishing, i actually want to get knocked up. just out of sheer boredom. can we go to the mall? >> sounds good. >> holding levi close, feeling my heart beating against him, i

realize this is where i'm meant to be, for three days. and then get me the [ bleep ] out of here. have you been to wasilla? >> larry: no. >> it blows. i'm not going to lie. it blows chunks, yeah. it's not what we want the country to be like. when sarah palin said i would run the country, you know, you betcha', the way i run wasilla, that's not what we want. it's a lot of boredom and then some crystal meth. and go ahead. write your letters. i don't care anymore. go ahead, tweet me about it. >> larry: what is your attraction to levi? >> i get him in a way bristol never did. and also, every time that i'm with levi and put him in the public eye, i feel it's my very subtle middle finger to sarah palin. go ahead, tweet me palin freaks. i've seen his johnston, have you? >> larry: no. >> it goes on and on, for days. >> larry: do you love him? >> yeah. >> larry: he is younger than you. >> like 30 years. not even that much.

>> larry: could you be serious with him? >> that's right. i would be very serious in a committed monogamous relationship. >> larry: how is it going, then? >> well, now that i got a painting from eric menendez, i feel that i'm seeing other people. i mean, i'm torn. it's like "the thorn birds," you know what i mean? it's like a forbidden love. >> larry: moving on. what do you think of mtv's "jersey shore"? snooki and jay wow wow. and the situation of those others. >> okay, you did not say "jay wow wow." it's jwoww. >> larry: i said it with two ws. >> you can't change it. >> larry: i can do anything i want. >> are you hammered right now? >> larry: am i what? >> hammered. you heard me. are you drunk? you're not supposed to do this show while drunk. it's unprofessional. >> larry: i've never been drunk in my life. >> never? me neither! i've never had a drink in my life. >> larry: i've had a drink but never been drunk. don't like it. >> are you just high on our conversation? >> larry: yeah. >> me too. who needs it. >> larry: i'm on this show. >> what was your favorite episode?

>> larry: i never saw it. >> you know what, larry, you got the play the game. you got to at least lie. >> larry: i won't lie. what time is it on? >> it's on mtv. they rerun it a million time. "the d-list" is on tuesdays on bravo. >> larry: what makes "jersey shore" special? >> snooki. >> larry: i know it's popular. >> the situation. the way the house at the jersey shore has a certain smell and sheen from filth and too many one-nighters. the way they fight and make up. >> larry: do you think things are really that way on the jersey shore? because the jersey shore has some very nice places. >> it has some very nice places. but don't mess with me. i've played those markets many times. they can be rough. hey, you're funny, what's next. it's that kind of a crowd. it's like they love you and look at you like you better make me laugh or i'll kill you on the way out to the car. >> larry: you took your show to washington. >> yes. >> larry: for an episode. what was that like? >> it was fantastic. i learned a lot about how things work on the hill. and i'm doing whatever i can to

help repeal don't ask don't tell. i have many friends in the military after being to iraq and afghanistan and kuwait and those places. i met with jim clyburn and barney frank. it was very educational. i did get in a little trouble with a moron named michele bachmann. go ahead. act like i'm not your guest. you're acting like you're having an out-of-body -- >> larry: michele bachmann is a very strong conservative person. >> oh, boy, i didn't know it was be kind to bachmann day, because my word is "idiot." i got into a couple little words with her. >> larry: tiff? >> a little tiff with michele bachmann. and i sort of got kicked out of my first senate hearing because i said something to saxby chambliss that she didn't like. and i didn't know the hearings weren't interactive. i thought they were more like a q&a situation. not so much. >> larry: well, it is. >> but not for me.

>> larry: you now throw fancy dinner parties. i've never been invited by the way. you have a-listers at your house last weekend. jackie collins, suzanne somers, lily tomlin, chris bodie and sidney poitier. >> in your face, king. that's got to hurt. that's got to be like a dagger in your heart. >> larry: i've had dinner with sidney many times. >> come on. >> larry: how did this come about, you, a d-lister, what are you doing with these people? >> it's a sham. it's a traf es ti, but yet i'm determined -- here's why. i'm friends with sue mangers. she used to be a big power agent and gives these incredible dinner parties. i thought i would try one there is a lot of people in what i call the beverly hills mafia, and one of them is suzanne somers and jackie collins who between them have so much money it's ridiculous. they might as well eat it for lunch and crap it out. honestly, it's an insane amount. so they are beholden to no one, which is why i admire them. they don't really need --

>> larry: anyone. >> no, they don't. >> larry: but they plug their books. they go everywhere. >> of course, it's fun. they love it. they have the tiger and the hunger like you and i do. so they're friends with all these types of people i would never get to meet, so i invited them to dinner and they actually came. guess who came to dinner? sidney poitier. >> larry: what did you serve? >> i had a caterer that cooked for sidney before so they knew exactly what he wanted. they brought him his room temperature evian at the right time and there was a dairy's free cream for the aspar gus. so here is the worst part. suzanne e-mails and says what are you going to serve on. i realized i didn't have dishes or cloth napkins or cutlery that matches. so i rented dishes, knives and forks. i've never had a cloth napkin in my life. i'm all paper towels all the time. >> larry: did you do a routine at the dinner? >> no, i took credit for it. i said, oh, i got these at saks fifth avenue. they were a fortune. >> larry: was it a success?

>> it was so fantastic. you know, those are people that fascinate me. >> larry: they're nice people. >> larry: that's a group that has something to say. i was proud of it. lily tomlin was great. >> larry: you're going to meet -- >> oh, boy. >> larry: -- the woman who gave birth to kathy griffin. >> this can't be happening. >> larry: try to hide it the rest of her life. >> take it back. >> larry: kathy's mom maggie -- >> please no. >> larry: -- is next. i'm don lemon. here are the headlines this hour. oil collection in the gulf of mexico resumed after an overnight shut down after equipment problems and lightning storm. two of the collection operations was stopped because of an equipment problem. meanwhile, bp ceo tony hayward is under fire again, this time for attending a yacht race in england on saturday. the upper midwest is cleaning up after strong storms blasted through the region overnight. knocking down trees, downing power lines and killing at least one person near detroit. the severe weather also hit chicago and hit it hard. a line of strong storms knocked out power to more than 400,000

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>> larry: maggie griffin, kathy's mother joins us. she is a regular on "my life on the d-list" and author of the new book "tip it." let's take a look at maggie griffin highlights of the new season of "my life on the d-list." watch. >> you and i are judging a kiddie pageant.

>> oh, my god. >> i'm going to sing a song, and they'll fret my pottie mouth. ♪ i got to tell you, mom, i just don't give a [ bleep ] ♪ >> they took the bar away. >> kathy. >> let's say we're going to do sort of a wearable drinking blanket with arms. that sucked. look. you had two faces [ bleep ] or me. >> did you ever fake an orgasm? >> i would never -- i don't tell things like that. >> cloris is kind of her naughty friend. >> larry: all right, maggie, what's it like to have her as a daughter? >> you better lie through your teeth. i mean -- >> well, you're always on your toes, larry. >> larry: been that way since she was a kid? >> yes, but not as outrageous. i mean now she -- to me she is outrageous. >> would you stop acting like this is an interview with queen noor? >> oh, okay. >> she's taking this very seriously. >> larry: she should.

>> usually there's a box of wine and she can barely stand on her toes. >> larry: this is one of the thrills of her life. let her have her moment, okay? >> okay. >> larry: how do you like all the attention you get due to your daughter? >> from gay people. >> oh, i get a lot of attention. and everybody is very, very nice. >> what about oprah? what if you met oprah, what would you do? you would throw me under the bus. >> i don't know what oprah would do. >> what if she hit you? >> i don't think she would do that. >> you sure? >> i think she is more controlled than that, kathy. >> he knows her. >> would she hit me? >> larry: no, she wouldn't. we know kathy is very popular with gay fans. why do you think you are? >> i think i am because i've kind of come out for a lot of things. and they're all very nice to me. >> larry: you stand up for them. >> yeah, yeah, i really do. >> she went to an anti-prop 8 rally. she carried a sign. >> that was great. >> larry: support gay marriage? >> yes. yes.

>> she is like the white angela davis. remember angela davis with the fro? she's like that. militant. >> but no, i really think -- i think the time is right. and things are happening for them. and i think it's wonderful. i think it should be. >> larry: what kind of mom was she growing up? >> i don't know who this is. because she's acting like this is a serious charlie rose moment. she's actually taking on the issues. first of all, she's drunk right now, larry. let's be honest. she's had a little box of wine to take the edge off. >> larry: where do you live, maggie? >> now i live in beverly hills. >> exactly, see? for all the complaining? exactly. >> larry: your successful daughter move you? >> oh yeah, yeah. >> larry: takes good care of you? >> yeah. >> larry: you a widow? >> yes, i am. my husband expired three years ago. very tough. >> larry: was he a good father, kathy? >> he was the best. he was very funny. they were on the show together. when people come up to me and

say i feel like i knew your dad and i say you did. he was just like that. she is like that but this is a weird party face she is doing for your benefit. she is trying to act sober. it's like when the cops pull you over and have you do that test. can we have her blow into anything? >> larry: i told you i don't drink. does your daughter ever embarrass you? >> occasionally she does. >> we rehearsed this. no, larry, she is a joy. >> i forgot that part. sorry, kath. i'll get to it. she has been in comedy for a long time now. and at first i used to just about die. even my husband would a little bit. but now we're -- you know, it's in kind of one ear and out the other. although there are a few times. >> okay, that was great. next. i don't want to keep you, larry. >> larry: do you go to her concerts? >> oh, yeah, i go to all the shows. i always have. and people keep looking around at us like when she says something outrageous or against

us, or whatever. and we're sitting there clapping and laughing. >> larry: did it take a while to get used to her use of the language? >> yes, it did. it took a while. >> larry: did she curse as a kid? >> where do you think i learned it? i learned from the master, okay. >> that's not true. >> you can't even say it on the show. >> that's not true. >> like a sailor would blush. >> larry: where did you grow up? >> forest park, illinois. >> outside of chicago. >> larry: oprah country. >> it's all oprah country. who are we kidding? it's oprah's world. >> larry: was she a good student? >> she was a good student. she was a great -- she was a good student. great kid, though. people almost don't believe that. >> that means bad student when she gets to the great kid. >> larry: she had good manners? >> she had very good manners -- >> the pain in the neck nuns? they were evil. the nuns tried to torture me. they were evil. evil nuns. >> larry: did she listen to her parents? >> she was a good kid. i never had a problem with her. >> larry: aha. >> you know when i started to

have problems with her? when she came out here and started to make it. that's when all this stuff came in. >> larry: in other words, before you made it -- >> a great kid. >> that's right. and hollywood turned me bad. >> larry: it wasn't your mother. it was this place. >> that's right. i'm not unlike the lohans. >> larry: maggie reveals something about kathy that only a mother would know, next.

good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i have an amazingly hot bikini body. it's not genetic, if you've seen my mother. >> i saw kathy walk out on that stage, i was horrified. shamelessly showing her body, especially all over the place. i thought her body looked pretty good, but i won't mention that to her. >> i decided that my mother's expression of horror is her way of smiling and saying, i

couldn't be prouder. >> larry: kathy griffin's book is now in paperback, maggie grif it's book is just out "tip it." tell us something about her, they, and we don't know. >> we didn't discuss this. >> larry: no. >> i have to put a stop to this right now. larry, what's going to happen? >> larry: stop it. i'm asking you to tell us something about you that nobody knows. >> all right. i think one thing, she's not going to like this probably -- >> i'm watching you. you see me? i'm watching you. >> i don't think people -- >> you'll be in a state-run home. >> larry: let her finish. >> it's all over. i think people don't know that she's quite vulnerable. she puts on this tough front -- >> okay. you know what? >> larry: are you saying she has an interior that could be -- >> she actually does. >> there goes my emmy. thanks, everybody. congratulations to you, too. there's my career. >> larry: there's a soft side? >> yes, there is.

but she doesn't show it as often as i wish she would. >> larry: how did she do as a child when she started to date? >> she was great. i really have no -- >> don't act like i never dated a guy that turned out to be gay. i'm a gaymaker. i can turn anybody gay. i'm a professional. it used to be a chicken and egg situation, but i think i actually make them gay. >> larry: by doing what, do you think? >> i think it's a little too much liza, streisand, cher. i practically made her a lesbian. >> larry: maggie, how did you come to write the book? >> well, what happened, the -- i believe the company, hipperion books called -- >> she drinks a lot of boxed wine. people like that about her. they find it relatable. a publisher asked her if she would like to write about how

boxed wine -- >> i drank a little before. >> stammering, you know what i'm saying? >> larry: wine that comes in a box. >> yeah. we got it, because we had had it at a friend's house at a backyard, at a party. he's a fellow that has a really nice wine cellar. certainly better than ours. we never even had a wine cellar. >> yawn. could you wrap this up? you're on larry king. >> he brought this big box of bin to the party and he said, try this wine. i think you'll like it for a big party. it's great, cheap. >> the real answer is when you're hammered, not that anyone in this room would imbibe, and you drop it, unlike glass, it just sort of -- >> larry: and tip it is the way you finish it off? >> yes. you tip the box in case it's going out, and you say, i think it's empty and you say tip it. and then it became tip it for kind of everything. >> you have to end your answers at some point. a period. >> larry: by the way, this is

june. are you going with anyone now? other than levi? >> well, i'm torn between levi and eric menendez. he's emotionally unavailable. >> larry: and physically. >> i know. i guess i'm going for the wrong man. >> larry: do you like levi? >> not really. >> you know what, larry -- >> larry: well -- >> not really. >> larry: what advice -- it is june -- do you have for graduates? are you asked to be a commencement speech? >> no. which would be very a-list. a nice junior college somewhere, where i didn't complete my studies. my advice would be to take just as much adoral as you can get your hands on. and sleep around, with a condom. the volume is not an issue. go for it. i would try to reach 100 by your junior year, in you're just going to play a numbers game. and just pay attention to what

you feel like paying attention to. and you would be fine. isn't that what you taught me? >> oh, yeah. >> larry: do you like to be a mother? >> i have dogs and i am a mother to my dogs. and also, i have a grown child, in a way. if you think about it. >> larry: do you think she would be a good mother? >> i think she would. >> larry, if i have one egg left, i'm going to be pissed. i don't think there's a lot of eggs -- there's no omelets happening down there. they're all gone. don't televie. >> larry: how often do you see levi? >> as often as possible. >> larry: does it bother him to know your mother doesn't like him? >> it tears him up inside. >> larry: i'm sure it would. >> and you know levi, he cast shut up about it. that's levi. >> larry: goes out dancing until 6:00, 6:30 at night. more with kathy and her mom. we're going to mark a milestone. stick around.

we're winding things up. a special week this is for maggie griffin. we want to recognize it.

maggie celebrated her 90th birthday. and to honor her we have a couple of surprises. >> oh, boy. a stripper? >> larry: bring them in. >> oh, my gosh! >> oh, wow. >> larry: a lovely birthday cake. >> it looks like a cougar. >> can i take this off? >> don't touch it. >> i thought it was a box. >> she's drunk, larry. >> larry: a box of chardonnay wine. >> oh, and a box of wine. oh, how -- >> you broke the bank on this one, baby. >> larry: what do we have in there? >> oh, my goodness. >> please say it's a moo moo. she loves her moo moo. >> larry: i don't know. it will surprise me. >> oh, cups. it looks like a drinking party. oh, you'll have to force her. >> but nobody will join me? >> larry: i'll try it. i never tried boxed wine. >> there's a bunch of junk food. there's twinkies. will you be honest about your secret to longevity? junk food and booze.

>> larry, you know this isn't so. >> larry: can you have twinkies and liquor? >> watch her. watch the pro. >> oh, yeah. that's good. >> we'll do larry's first. >> i haven't done this for a while, larry. you're supposed to keep it here. >> larry: you pour it on the side. okay. >> like that? >> yeah. oh. >> larry: i >> well, this is larry's. you can have as much as you want. ma, here's yours. >> larry: celebrate the birthday. first-ever box wine. >> oh -- >> just a little, honey. >> remember when obama had the box of wine after the interview? it's just like that. >> larry: the fragrance. >> tip it. all right. here. >> there. see? >> larry: awe frfraid of this? >> i don't want to start. >> tip it. that's a new thing now. you say, let's tip it. >> let him do the show and you drink. >> larry: let's tip it. >> there you go. >> will you hold up my book,

larry? honestly. >> larry: here's kathy's book. >> oh, typical. oh, this is great. >> not too bad, larry. >> what did you think of larry with lady gaga? >> that was good. always good. >> always interesting, very good. >> larry: this tastes like a combination of a warm wine -- >> and urine? >> larry: -- and a touch of beer. >> oh, i never got the beer part of it. >> well, you got plenty. >> i got it from the -- >> larry: let's sing happy birthday to her. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday dear maggie ♪ happy birthday to you >> i love you, mom. >> i love you. >> don't screw up my makeup. >> larry: can i ask what kind of cake this is? marble cake with chocolate chip filling. >>