>> you're even cute when you spit up. okay. good job. >> larry: tonight on the first anniversary of michael jackson's death, jermaine jackson returns to his brother's tomb for the first time since the pop icon was laid to rest. >> michael, i miss you. >> larry: revealing the anguish. >> he got a bum rap because he was so misunderstood. >> larry: sorrow and torment has pained the entire jackson family.

>> he felt that he was being threatened and someone was trying to kill him. >> larry: jermaine jackson's emotional confessions, next, on a very special edition of "larry king live." good evening. it was a year ago today that news out of los angeles shocked the world. michael jackson had died. people all over the planet poured into the streets, mourning the loss of the singer who had moved generations of music lovers. michael was buried at forest lawn in glendale, california. jermaine jackson returns to his brother's final resting place for the first time since then and sat down with me for an eye-opening interview. this is where michael jackson is interred. one year ago today, the nation stunned by the death of this incredible superstar at age 50. by the way, other people buried

or interred here include lucille ball, jack baring, clark gable, george burns, jimmy stewart, humphrey bogart, spencer tracy. our special guest is jermaine jackson. what can we say? what's this year been like? >> it's been tough, larry. it went so fast. we've been just putting the pieces together and the family's having a lot of meetings. and just trying to hold on. >> larry: have you come to terms with it? have you ever really accepted it because he was so young? >> it's hard. no, we haven't come to terms. it's something we're learning to live with. but we will never accept it. it's just -- it's tough. it's very tough. >> larry: we all remember watching that funeral. who didn't watch it? now we're here in front of the

mausoleum where your brother was interred. where was the funeral? was it right here? >> i think it was around the corner someplace. >> larry: they laid a carpet, right? >> yes. right. they laid a carpet. that was the private funeral that the immediate family and special friends and guests had. yeah. >> larry: that was some night. >> it's tough. i'm very emotional when i drove up. >> larry: was it emotional today? >> yes, larry. very, very much. because i just can't believe a year has gone by. but to just -- when it happened, so many things came back to my mind. just the childhood and things that we used to do as a family and a group as the jackson five. and it was very tough. >> larry: you know, when that film came out, i think we finally got to realize what a

really -- not only great performer, but sensational person he was. >> yeah. but why didn't they know that when he was alive? because his music, if you listen to the content of his lyrics and his music, that's what he is. that's what he wrote. from his heart. from his soul. it's sad, because now people realize what kind of person he was all along, but he's not here to see that. >> larry: you think he got a bum rap in life? >> he got a bum rap because it's just -- he was so misunderstood. and he was trying to take the world on his shoulders and to bring an awareness to the world of what we need to do as people. yeah, he got a bum rap, yes. >> larry: does the family visit here often? >> we come, and friends come and they bring flowers. because i have been here and see a lot of different seating

arrangements around his -- his burial site, and it's very cold in there. it's a dark corridor. >> larry: i know. we're not allowed in, but it is dark and cold? >> it's cold, larry. it's -- it's -- to walk this corridor and all you hear is your footsteps and this -- michael shouldn't be here. i always felt that. >> larry: you wanted him where? >> in neverland. >> larry: we were there together. >> right. i said it then. >> larry: we taped this earlier in the week. how is the family going to mark the anniversary? are they going to do anything special on the friday, this friday, when we're broadcasting? >> we -- we're getting together. and probably going to have songs and sing and things like that to remember all of the good that he's done. >> larry: and try to make it joyous. >> try to make it joyous, but it hurts at the same time. but he would want us to be

happy. michael was very special in the sense that he -- i kind of felt that he -- he felt something about his life, and he did say on numerous occasions at times to my mother that he felt that he was being threatened and someone was trying to kill him. >> larry: really? >> yes, yes. >> larry: he had a premonition of early death by violence, or some method? >> yeah. someone. >> larry: how is randy? we heard he had a scare. >> randy is fine. he scared me, too. he had some chest pains, and he's been working very, very hard keeping things together with the family and everything. and we got a call right during the -- the lakers playoff he was rushed to the hospital.

he is doing fine now. i saw him the past weekend, and he said he's -- he's doing much, much better. so he's taking it easy. thank you, though. >> larry: michael's children impressed the millions who saw that memorial service. how are blanket, prince and paris? jermaine is going to fill us in. and we'll get into dr. conrad murray and the dark side of michael's death, next. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 i thought investment firms were there tdd# 1-800-345-2550 to help with my investments.

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♪ this is a celebration of his life. of his legacy. >> he was caring and funny, honest, pure, and he was a lover of life. >> ever since i was born, daddy has been the best fath you could ever imagine. and i just wanted to say i love him. >> larry: jermaine jackson. we're at forest lawn cemetery. how are michael's kids? >> michael's kids. >> larry: you all live together? >> yeah.

they live with my two. they're having a good time. they're being kids. and they're playing with skateboards and the dogs run around the house and the parrot and the iguanas and things like that. >> larry: are they into music? >> very, very much so. but they more like -- they are into film and they love behind the scenes, directors and producers, they can tell you just about anything about a film and who produced it. >> larry: really? >> yes. they love that. >> larry: how are they doing in school? >> they are doing very, very well. there have been some announcements i think that they are going to take a private school next year. but they are doing very, very well. they are all ahead and so are my two. so we're very happy about that. >> larry: are you -- is everybody fathering everybody? is it like it takes a village? >> yes, well, we have to. we're the adults, and they are children, so if we see them doing something wrong, we're going to say something. not -- it's not up to the nanny or the housekeepers or whoever

to reprimand them. it's up to us as adults. >> larry: kids come here often? >> no, no. >> larry: do they get along well? the kids? >> oh, yeah. >> larry: because kids always fight. >> they get along very, very well, they -- it's the video games and all that stuff, and having the little fights and just -- and then they get bored and want to go out to the movie theater and catch the latest animation film, but they are getting along. >> larry: did they see their father's film? >> i don't know yet. i think they may have a copy. because according to my two sons -- >> larry: because it's on hbo now. >> yeah, yeah. but they're not allowed to do too much on the internet and all that kind of stuff. >> larry: good idea. >> yeah. >> larry: were you surprised how well they did at the memorial service? >> very, very well. >> larry: everyone was. >> yeah. they were -- i guess right when

it happened, the therapist felt that it was important for them to go in and see michael right then and there. and they got it all out. but, still, it will always be there. they are learning to live with it, too. they have done a tremendous job of just being strong and being so young. >> larry: now, your mom is 80 now. and how is she doing? >> she's doing very well. >> larry: she's got michael's children -- how does it work? they float? >> see, what it is, they're at the house. my mom is there. and all kinds of help. tutors, cooks and security and kids and they get a chance to just be children. and my mother just -- she runs the rule. she -- she enforces the rules. this is what's going to happen. they all have a meeting, they had a meeting last week, and -- about just them getting together

on vacation trips and things like that, so it looks like there's going to be some travels going on, too. >> larry: everyone took it hard, but catherine took it especially hard, didn't she? well, you lose a child. >> it's hard to imagine how that feels, but she -- she gets numb and quiet sometimes, and i think she sort of relives the childhood of his and just hearing his laugh and what he used to do when he was young. >> larry: your father recently said -- i don't know how it affected the kids -- that she should have been a more attentive mother. >> you know, larry, everybody has taken that out of context. i think my father -- >> larry: then straighten it out for me. >> my father said that because my mother -- michael -- my mother was very, very close to him. and she could get him to say and do things before my father and

before any of us, so the fact that he said my mother should have -- mother should have done that. but the bottom line is we all were very busy in trying to tear down this wall that was surrounded and michael surrounded himself with. these were the outside people who didn't want us in. and that's what he meant by breaking that barrier or trying to. she should have been more attentive to trying to get through. because he knew she had a -- just a pass all the time. not a pass, but just an okay, just to get through it. it was tough. very tough. >> larry: also probably still a lot of pain in him, isn't there? >> yeah, he's been grieving, yeah. >> larry: i want to get this right. your sister janet talked about that michael had a problem, and your family tried several interventions with the problem, drugs. do you think you could have done more? >> we all say that after the

fact, but some of the attempts of intervention, i wasn't there. >> larry: oh, you weren't? >> i was out of the country. but i had heard about them, but michael would never, ever, ever take his own life, and i -- if michael were sitting here right now, and we were to say to him, michael, you're not going to be here, and your kids are going to be left fatherless, he would say, oh, no, that would never happen. and the fact that there have been so many ridiculous things been said by dr. klein and all these idiots who are saying these horrible things now that he's not here, i'm very much against that. michael loved life. he was the type of person who saw a fly in the room, he wouldn't smash it against the wall, he would let it out. he would open the door and let the fly out. he loved preserving life and life for others. why would he take his own life? >> larry: professor klein has a great love for him.

>> no. how can he love him and not like me or the rest of the family? it's all b.s. >> larry: dr. conrad murray, charged with involuntary manslaughter. his hearing starting in august. will you attend that trial? >> yes. yes. i'm there for support. there to keep my mother strong and my father and the family. >> larry: how do you feel about the doctor? a judge has allowed him to keep his medical license. >> larry, it's not important whether he keeps his license or they take his license away. the bottom line, michael is not here, what he administered to michael should have been in a hospital setting, and he did not act alone. i all feel, myself, randy, la toya, all of us feel he's the fall guy. and knowing how this whole thing works, and knowing it's higher up than just the doctor.

and he's there. and if you squeeze him hard enough, he will talk. >> larry: in the year since michael did died, there have been rumor of all kinds about what really happened. from day one, the jackson family has made surprising allegations. when we come back, jermaine will address the truth and the lies surrounding michael's death. ♪ ♪ ♪ ay, yay, yay, yay ♪ ay, yay, yay, yay ♪ ♪ ♪ baby, baby, baby, baby... uh-oh ♪ ♪

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we're following the breaking news out of los angeles. michael jackson has been taken to a hospital. >> paramedics tried to perform cpr and get him breathing again. >> cnn is confirming from the l.a. coroner that michael jackson is dead. >> american icon. king of pop. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> physicians attempted to resuscitate him. and they were unsuccessful. >> larry: the pain of michael's passing is with his brother jermaine every day. it was not easy for him to return to forest lawn for our interview, and it's not easy for him to talk about the circumstances surrounding the death.

but he does. do you think your brother was killed? >> yes, of course. of course. >> larry: no doubt in your mind. >> no doubt in my mind. >> larry: have the authorities done enough? well, they've stopped at murray, haven't they? >> yeah. when you look at the authorities, they've done their part. but at the same time, it's the d.a.'s office. and i just don't trust anybody. i really, really don't. we lost a brother. what really has really -- one of the hearings we went to, they were sitting in there laughing, larry. they're laughing. i felt like getting up and walking out. >> larry: who? >> first of all, i think tmz was filming this, and they are all showboating for the camera, and they were talking about whether the license should be taken or not and there was chuckles and laughs, and i'm sitting there saying, we lost our brother. how disrespectful. we're sitting there, and i wanted to get up so bad and just walk out. this is our system, our judicial system. and they are sitting there

laughing. >> larry: does the family plan any civil action? >> well, we're in meetings, and that's a good question, but right now we're just trying to make sure that every rock is turned over and we can really get a thorough investigation. >> larry: do you think we'll ever find out the whole story? >> yes. yes. you know why? because his family is not going to let it not happen. we love him, we miss him. the world needs to know the truth. we need to know the truth. you need to know the truth. and absolutely. we're going to do everything in our power as a family to make sure the world knows what really happened. >> larry: has the estate paid the city to cover the public memorial at staples? there were stories about that. what is it? >> larry, it's -- michael's estate is probably one of the

most successful financial estates, close to $1 billion up to this date, and to have all of these things about debt and this and that, it's like when he was alive, they beat him down with this child molestation stuff. they try to make it seem like he did this. you beat people down with the very thing they love. this was all planned. they tried to kill him with that. they couldn't kill him with that. so he had a dependency on sleeping pills or whatever. so they found a way to kill him with that. they found a way. >> larry: but the city has been paid, all that has been cleared? >> yes. >> larry: the day michael died, how did you find out? i remember you told me. >> i found out -- >> larry: where were you? >> i was in azusa. not too far -- on the other side of pasadena. someone from your office called my wife's phone. >> larry: cnn told you? >> yes. you guys told us first. they said do you know anything

about michael being rushed to the hospital? so i said, no. i got off with them and called my mother right away. and my mother said, yes, i'm on my way to the hospital right now. and once i got off the phone, 45 minutes went by, i spoke to an attorney, joel katts, and then i spoke to my sister, janet. joel had mentioned to me saying it was pretty bad. i said, wow. then i called my mother back. and she was there in the hospital. and i heard her say, he's dead. he's dead. he's gone. the tone of her voice, larry, was a tone i've never heard before. and i cried. i didn't know how to get from westwood from azusa. so we put it in the navigation. and we're crying along the way, and the phone is ringing off the hook, and people texting and calling, and the phone system crashes. and as we get closer to westwood, we see all of the

helicopters hovering in the sky. and westwood is people standing still and it's taped off, so i drive up to a policeman and they let me in. i go to the emergency part, and i go straight to my mother, and she is sitting there like in a daze. she was just in a daze, numb, staring into space. and then i said -- i consoled her a bit and then i went to see him. i said, well, where is he? they said, he's down the hall a bit. and i walked in this room, and it took a lot, larry, to walk into the room and see your brother laying there lifeless. laying on the -- this gurney thing, like. and he's -- and i sort of touched his face. and he was still soft. he was still soft. and i pulled his eye -- eyelid

back to look at his eyes. and i just kissed his face. and it's a horrible feeling to have death in your family, that close. >> larry: where were you when michael jackson died? tell us. go to facebook.com/cnnlarrykinglive and let us know. jermaine sang michael's favorite song at his brother's memorial service. we'll go back to that day, right after this. (voice 1) traffic's off the chart... (voice 2) they're pinging more targets... (voice 3) isolate... prevent damage... (voice 2) got 'em. (voice 3) great exercise guys. let's run it again.

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♪ if you smile through your fear and sorrow ♪ >> larry: how were you able to perform so well at that funeral service? at the memorial service. i mean, you were incredible that day. where did you get that from? >> strength of wanting to do something for him. and i asked my mother, my other family members didn't want anybody from the family to perform, because they wanted us to sort of just sit there and support everybody. but i wanted to do this song for him, because i love that song. then i realized that was his favorite song. so i asked my mother, can i do a song for him. she said, yes, baby, do whatever you can for your brother. i went up there. when i started, you saw me holding my ear like that. and some of the music was going in and out of my ear, and i said, uh-oh, here comes a train wreck. so i kept going. there was no music, but i kept singing.

but it was emotional for me, because i knew that was his favorite song. and we had visited the chaplain family before. we showed up in switzerland, and i would show up and he didn't know that i was friends with charlie chaplain's sons as well. >> larry: "smile" one of the great songs ever written. >> it's a great song. >> larry: great, great songs ever written. were you shocked at the coverage? were you at all surprised at how immense this story was? >> not really. you know why, larry? because michael's success is not his talent. it was his message. people cried because they knew what his message was, the one he was trying to do through his music. and we're very appreciative as a family and we will stay strong and unite and stand strong as a family. but the world cried because they knew they had lost someone who really cared about them.

who cared about the planet. who cared about life. >> larry: by the end of the week, the top three albums all over the world in sales were his. nearly half a million albums were sold. 2.3 million downloads of single tracks. did that surprise you? >> no. you know what surprised me? what surprised me is the fact that i can't go anywhere without someone knowing what happened, and any corner of this globe. >> larry: you just performed in africa. >> yeah. in the gambia. i did a sort of tribute to him. there was -- we started the show with a three-minute poem of his, larry. and the strangest thing. before we started, the moon was covered with clouds, and michael was talking about planet earth for three minutes and this voice the ringing all over the stadium, so beautiful. and all of a sudden the moon was

so bright and clear, and when it finished, the cloud was closed the moon up against it. everybody after the show said did you look at moon when your brother was talking? i said, i felt a very, very magical moment during that time. >> larry: everywhere you go, almost every day, you hear the name michael, right? >> yes. >> larry: paparazzi still follow you around? >> yes, there is one that i really wanted to jump on and knock him out the other day. he was being very disrespectful. i'm glad i didn't. i held my cool. you get like that sometimes, too, i'm pretty sure. >> larry: see video of jermaine's trip by going to cnn.com/larryking. michael jackson was a pop icon before he died. as a child and front man with the jackson five, he made music magic. but his popularity and sales have soared in the past year. assuring that michael will remain alive forever. jermaine talks about it all, next. come on up here, where your brothers sit.

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♪ where there is love i'll be there i'll reach out my hand to you ♪ ♪ i'll have faith in all you do ♪ ♪ just call my name, and i'll be there, i'll be there, i'll be there to comfort you, build my world of dreams around you ♪ >> what was the magic of the jackson 5? >> the magic of the jackson 5 was having a team like motown, having a barry gordie, suzanne pass, shelley berger, all these people who knew -- who just knew how to take what we had and put it into this motown machine and just present it for the world.

that was the magic. and then we were so young, singing these grownup songs and michael singing about who is loving you and he's never experiencd love at that age. it was just unbelievable. >> larry: and it will never go away, you know. >> but we -- my kids are playing i want you back, abc stuff. i'm hearing this all the time now. yeah. >> larry: it's safe to say you think about him every day. >> every day. every day. i just -- sometimes i just say michael, michael, michael. where are you? michael. i miss you. yes. >> larry: do you believe he's somewhere? >> yes. absolutely. >> larry: because that cloud is moving in front of the moon is a little shaky. >> no. you know why, larry? his spirit is very much alive. i went to mumbai, and i went to go on the side of town in india

to tailors. i saw this outfit in the window. i loved this outfit. it was in an appliance store. the store that had the outfit was three stories up. i walked in and said where is the store for this outfit. they say it's three stores up. the guy said, oh, my god, your brother was here. i said who? he said, michael. i made clothes for him. he brought all the pictures out and everything. what are the chances a billion people, all these tailors in india and i end up in the same place where michael was to get clothes? i feel him, just because his spirit is very much alive. because he was a positive soul. >> larry: how is he going to be remembered? >> he's going to be remembered as a great humanitarian that cared about people, cared about life, and a great artist, but a humanitarian. >> larry: and one of the great, great entertainers who ever lived. where are you going to put him?

>> neverland. >> larry: you keep going back to neverland. >> it's a beautiful place. larry, you've been there. >> larry: i never expected it. >> you felt his spirit, his ideas. it's like his imagination. i want this there, that there. this is all him. >> larry: we're going back to neverland. jermaine will tell us what it meant to michael and why he won't give up on moving michael's remains. that's next. s with comfort suits or any choice hotel, you can feed a family of four. book now at choicehotels.com to start earning your $50 restaurant gift card. hey! [ tires screech ] [ female announcer ] when business travel leaves you drained, re-charge with free high-speed internet and free hot breakfast. comfort suites. power up. on his car insurance. so, from now on, i'd like to be known as "the saver."

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>> larry: welcome back to this special edition of "larry king live." we're marking the one-year anniversary of michael jackson's death. jermaine jackson returned to forest lawn with me for the first time since his brother was laid to rest there. it's a beautiful place. but jermaine wants michael at neverland. as he told us during a visit there last year. hi, jermaine. needless to say, this is unbelievable. where are we?

>> we are looking over neverland. this is what he considered as the ultimate joy, the ultimate happiness, the ultimate wonderment, the ultimate peace. this is neverland. >> larry: and this is one small part of this whole picture, right? >> yes. this is one small part. there is so much more. there are other valleys beyond these hills here that are just flat surfaces. there's mt. katherine around here. >> larry: named for your mother. is that it there? >> yes, it's the part that's shaved off there. mt. katherine. it's a place we would come with all the children. and there would be birthdays. fun. the times we wanted to get out here, it was booked for just bus loads of just kids who were dying of this and that. and less fortunate. wheelchairs. and the theme park is this way. and wheelchair ramps and give kids happiness.

>> larry: under privileged, poor kids. >> they would have a wonderful time. >> larry: what's that way? >> that way is just where we used to take the quads and go around and act crazy and ride horses and stuff. there's just so much land to still develop. but here is where he considered his happiness. this is what he felt -- >> larry: did he see this first? how did he pick this place? >> i understand when they did the video "say, say, say." my sister la toya was here and paul mccartney and michael. and he really liked it. see, to back up before that, i had a ranch in hidden valley. and michael would come over. and he loved what i had out there. because i had swans and everything. he said, jermaine, i'm going to buy a beautiful ranch one day. because he loved the ranch life. this was -- i think that's what inspired him to do this. >> larry: he spent a lot of time here in the hay day? >> a lot of time. a lot of time.

>> larry: i don't think the general public would have any concept, is my own feeling, of what neverland is. i think the thought would be it's ride and games and toys. and there was all that, right, but so much more. >> with our family, larry, we travel so much. and i can see bit and pieces of different parts of the world here. and that's what's great. >> you see europe there? >> yeah. you see -- you see all types of things. that's why michael enjoyed it. he brought bits and peieces of places he enjoyed in his heyday. >> what is it like for you to stand here now at this place that he loved so much and know he's gone? >> larry, it's so hard. but at the same time, i feel him. >> larry: you do? >> yes, i feel his presence. this is his creation. this is his idea. to come here and to feel him here, i'm happy. and i really felt -- still feel that this is where he should be

rested because it's just him. it's so -- listen. it's serene. it's wonderful. >> larry: would you need an estate thing to change that? >> larry, anything can be done today. >>. >> larry: the law says you have to be buried if the cemetery. i think that's the law. change it -- >> people can change it. >> larry: this obviously would be one of the most magnificent burial places in the world. >> tell me what impregyou had when you first came in. >> larry: i couldn't believe it. i didn't know what i was expecting. >> the same expectation i had. it's the kind of place when it's time to go, you don't want to leave. you want to hide, you want to chain your to a tree or something. you don't want to leave because there's so much joy, so much happiness. larry, at the same time, to think about the certain -- people tried to turn this into a negative place for him to bring kids here and this and that, for their own reasons. and that disturbs us -- >> larry: hurt him, didn't it? >> it hurt his tremendously.

-- hurt him tremendously. >> not only him, our whole family. kids come out here and there's candy -- right in this space where you see the little kid sitting on the moon there, that's the grand station for the steam train to go from there to the theater. down that way. and he had -- he got the only steam operator in the nation to come here and work the steam train. >> larry: thank you for showing us this. >> thank you. >> larry: i never expected it, nor have i ever seen anything quite like it. >> thank you very much, larry. it means a lot to all of us. especially me. thank you. >> larry: thank you. jermaine and i will show you michael's mausoleum at forest lawn next. ♪ ♪ do u gonna be there? ♪ are u sure u gonna call back? ♪ ♪ when am calling up and all that? ♪ ♪ ♪ can't u hear i'm sick?

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♪ >> larry: would michael have chosen this? you think neverlands? you don't like it here? >> no. he need to be somewhere special. larry, i really feel with what my brother has done just for people all around the world, there should be something special, a monument in d.c. for michael jackson. >> larry: in washington? >> absolutely. not because of -- because of the

message in the music, how it touched so many people. he should be laid to rest -- >> larry: who decided here? who said let's do it here? >> my mother. and i think it was like because we needed to put him somewhere for the moment. but it's not too late -- >> larry: he could move. >> to neverland, right? >> larry: do the rest of the family have plots here? >> larry, plots? meaning we're -- no. >> larry: you don't want to be around each other? >> i don't want to be here. >> larry: i don't want to be anywhere. i just don't want to be there when it happens. >> no. i would love to -- my god. i don't even want to talk about it. >> larry: okay. what are events are planned on the anniversary? >> well, we're going to come -- >> larry: a lot of people expected here, right? >> yeah. it's probably going to be inundated with people and fans

and things. and i know the family is getting together, and it's going to be great. >> larry: you coming out at night or early in the day? balloons, music? are they going to make it like a celebration in a sense of his life? >> it's going to be exciting but at the same time, that's what he would want. a celebration of it. >> larry: his ex-wife, lisa marie presley, asked everyone to bring flowers. >> that's sweet. that's very, very sweet. do you know when she was married to him, i really loved the idea of them being together. i mean -- >> larry: two legends. >> yeah. and she was always nice to me the times i spoke to her. but this corridor, when you walk down you hear this -- >> larry: i don't want to go in. they won't let me in. but you can get in. >> yeah. it's -- see, look. just look down.

right at the end that's where he's at right there. tloir looks li >> larry: it looks like a chegal glass -- >> it's very cold, it's like marble, and you hear an echo when you walk. and it's -- >> larry: what is it, like slabs? >> yeah. there are people all up here. >> larry: names? >> yeah. and anyone who comes, their loved one, can stand in front of michael and say michael's right here. >> larry: clark gable's here. >> take a picture -- yeah. there's some flowers. >> reporte . >> larry: look at that setting. >> it's beautiful and peaceful. but neverland is more peaceful than this. >> larry: stay well, jermaine. >> thank you, larry. >> larry: you can find an excerpt from catherine jackson's