tonight, lindsay lohan is in the slammer. her devastated dad, michael watched as she was hauled off to jail, shouting, we love you lane say. and what he witnessed as she was put in handcuffs and led away. can she survive 90 days?

next on "larry king live." >> larry: everybody's talking about lindsay lohan tonight. joining us is michael lohan, lindsay lohan's father, a "larry king live" exclusive and his attorney. lisa bloom is also here. first, let's go to the detention center in california, where the insider, chris jacobs is. >> reporter: how are you? >> larry: fine. >> reporter: when she arrived at the courthouse earlier today, i think frenzy would be an understatement. there was a crush of paparazzi waiting on the courthouse steps. if you watch one of the tapes closely, you can see someone through confetti on her as she made her way in the courthouse. she spent about 40 minutes inside the courtroom, remanded and put in custody and she was transported here to linwood and

arrived about 10:00 this morning. >> larry: how far is lynnwood from the courthouse? >> reporter: it probably took them 45 minutes to an hour to get down here. i'm sure there was a caravan following them. upon arrival, she was processed like any other inmate would be. i don't believe she was given any special treatment or privileges during the booking procedure. because she's in on a violation of an alcohol or drug offense, i'm sure she was subjected to a full cavity body search, larry. >> larry: do you know anything whether she has a cell-mate, can she have visitors or anything about what it's like for her inside? >> reporter: it's my belief, larry, she has her own cell with a private shower. that is for her own protection. i believe her jailers do not want her in general population for her safety. unfortunately, also for her safety, she's going to be in her cell by herself for 23 hours a

day, and that can be quite daunting. >> larry: nice, chris, chris jacobs, correspondent for "the insider." with us in the studio, michael lohan and the father of lindsay and his attorney, lisa bloom. the cameras were shut off before she was handcuffed. you were there. >> unbelievably well. i couldn't believe the strength. she was very strong. >> did you expect worse? >> yes, much worse. what really hurt this time wasn't the sentence coming down on her, my daughter, ali was a mess and it broke my heart. >> larry: how old is ali? >> only 16. >> larry: what did you say to lindsay. >> i just yelled to her, i love you, lindsay. >> larry: was -- did she say anything back? >> no. she couldn't. >> larry: you're still estranged. did you go see her? >> no. i didn't want to create problems.

there are people waiting for me to make a move and put me in jail myself and one place my kids don't need me. >> larry: your ex-wife has a restraining order against you? >> she has had one for six years now. >> larry: you are restrained for what? >> actually, she didn't get it for anything i did with her, stemmed from the fight i had with my brother-in-law when he was high on crack at my son's communion party. >> larry: was she in court today? >> yes, she was? >> larry: >> did you talk to her? >> no. dina hadn't spoken to anybody. >> yes, she wouldn't speak to anybody. >> larry: will you try to speak to her? >> absolutely. >> larry: do you know the visiting situation? >> on weekends. i was planning to go tomorrow night. but i heard it was only on weekends. lisa and i decided i should stay. >> larry: where is home?

>> in south hampton, long island. >> larry: what was this like from your perspective? >> heartbreaking. the rest of the world looks at lindsay lohan as an icon, cartoonish character, we see her in all the tabloids and shows. but to michael, this is his daughter. i have a daughter and if you can imagine having your daughter taken to jail and how devastating that is. that's what he's going through. he has, through me, trying to get to her for months and to get her to go to rehab. if she had gone to rehab a month or two months ago, none of this would happen, what michael was crying from the mountaintops about. >> larry: robert shapiro is a very good friend of mine, i spent all day sunday with him. he's no longer her attorney, i guess at all. he had told me, he was proposing rehab, and then jail. what happened to him in this.

do you know what happened in this? >> why didn't it -- >> larry: he wasn't able to tell me because of the laws of the court. you can tell me your perspective. >> i don't know why no attorney for lindsay lohan filed a notice of appeal in the last two weeks. had any attorney done that, this sentence would have been stayed pending appeal meaning six to 12 months she could have been out. >> larry: putting off the inevitable. >> she could have won an appeal perhaps, i saw some grounds but attorneys differ on that. an attorney could make an application to switch the order, put her in rehab first, put her in jail second. >> larry: no one made that application? >> no one made that application. >> larry: didn't robert shapiro intend to do that? i know he did. >> i don't know what was in his mind. but no one did. shawn chaplain holly -- >> larry: but she's pregnant. >> after shapiro resigned last night. shawn chapman holly entered.

>> larry: so who is her attorney? >> shawn chapman holley. >> he offered to pay for the appeal through me and offered to do anything possible to help his daughter. >> in court today, the court actually said there was no notice that shawn chapman holly was relieved of the case and no notice robert shapiro was the new attorney. >> larry: you have to give notice. >> it's like a divorce, people can split up and two years later the divorce is final. an attorney can withdraw from a case and later the notice is final. the new attorney has to be in. my suspicion is with robert shapiro in the last few days, things perhaps disintegrated between attorney and client. >> larry: was this handled poorly? >> all i can tell you is i have great respect with robert shapiro. i don't know what was going on behind the scenes with him and his client. i hate to second-guess him. the job offer the attorney is to

zealously advocate for the liberty of the client. he said he would only represent her if she first went to jail and go to his private facility. that raises questions. >> larry: robert downey, jail helped. >> jail helped, but i went into jail when i was clean and sober. lindsey's on prescription drugs. i have to say this, i spoke to robert shapiro about three weeks ago, i spoke to him not about lindsay, well, not about representing lip say, but man-to-man, father to father, and with some legal background involved. robert said to me, she's got to get off prescription drugs. i share what you're feeling, i know it. i said i feel the same thing. >> larry: his son died because of it? >> i said i share your sentiments and don't want to see that the outcome for my daughter. >> larry: if she's still on prescription drugs, will she get them in jail? >> she gets them on limited quantity, that's an improvement.

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>> larry: let's go back to chris jacob from "extra. "what do we know about her first meal and what her first night will be like and what do we know about visitors?

>> reporter: "tin sihe insider." i can tell you what life is going to be like relatively speaking, for lindsay welcome on the inside of this facility and relatively speaking there are pros and cons. the pros, she'll serve most likely 13 to 15 days of the 90 that she's been sentenced to due to overcrowding in this facility. secondly, she'll have her own cell with her own shower so she can take a shower whenever she wants. that's for her own protection. her first meal tonight, insider in the prison told us that it's most likely turkey with pasta, apple sauce, coleslaw and some white bread and some milk to wash it down so she'll be well-fed. here are the cons. no cigarettes. any smoker knows trying to make it two weeks without a puff is hard to do. secondly, no makeup. for someone like lindsay, that

might be tough to do. no hair extensions, things like that, accessories. she'll be wearing that orange jump suit for the two weeks. it will certainously be a humiliating experience for her at the correctional facility. >> larry: chris, of "the insider" what about visitors? >> on saturday she can have visitors. i'm not sure about phone access. probably just to speak to her attorney. as i was arriving today, her attorney, shawn, was leaving and she looked exhausted. i'm sure she's had a long day. here's the other thing. lindsay say avid tweeter and facebooker. i doubt she'll have access to the internet and for the next few weeks she'll be out of time with her followers on twitter.

>> thanks, chris. she's going to be alone 23 hours a day and that's for her own protection and that's true for anyone with notoriety that goes to jail but it's the right thing to do. there have been a lot of studies by human rights organization about the effect of isolation and there are severe psychological effects of isolation. when day after day after day, when you're aroen for 23 hours, in supermax prisons, it's used as hardened punishment. people talk about celebrities getting special treatment, for celebrities it's more difficult because they were alone so much. >> i was in lockdown in seg for five weeks. >> what's "seg." administrative segregation, the hole. no window. isolation. >> pass the food through a slot in the door. >> larry: does she make out a visitors' list of what she wants

to see? >> no. >> larry: does she have television? >> i don't think so. in the common area, from what i understand, i've already been in touch with clergy that's part of the prison system and also in the prison itself to the chap hayne minister marty angelo. and she will have some time outside of the cell, from what i understand, maybe a hour a day in the common area. but the most important thing for her right now, and i think this is god's will that it's going to bring her down to her knees and she'll have to, with nothing else to do, i just hope she gets back to herself, to pray. i'm sending her a bible, which the clergy said i could do. >> what about cigarettes. >> no. >> larry: but what about it? you can climb a wall? >> you can. in most cases you can smuggle them in. she's fighting enough demons herself right now with the prescription drugs and

everything else she's going to go through, she was -- this didn't have to happen but it's happening now and we have to live with it and she's got to use it to her best why why are these criminals? because she had duis. >> larry: do you think she has the public sympathy or not? >> i think she doesn't, larry. >> larry: does not? >> does not. a lot of people are ranting and raving about special treatment for celebrities. 250,000 people in los angeles county every year are released early from jails just like lindsay because of overcrowding. we have the most overcrowded jails in california. and there are court-ordered caps. >> you buy the 13 to 15 days? >> that's probably what it will be because of the current overcrowding. we look everybody up.

sentence them to jail and we don't have the space for them. >> larry: she was in jail before, wasn't she. >> for 84 minutes, i believe. but the process, i believe, like chris said, when i was in jail he covers me. but incentives for 84 minutes and the process of going in is one thing, going through the system like she did just getting processed. but to be subjected, like chris said, to searches and the things lindsay is going to be subjected to are dehumanizing. and a lot of the things that lindsay lives by are taken away from her now. >> do you ever blame yourself? >> sure, i do. >> larry: you feel a lot of guilt tonight? >> yup. >> larry: through your genes? >> through my stupidity. >> larry: dna? >> stupidity.

>> larry: what should you have done? >> i should have reacted differently. leaving dina alone with the children. i went away for criminal contempt. but i shouldn't have gotten involved with those people to begin with. that's one thing. the other thing was the stupidity of fighting with my brother-in-law and then being such an ass to get drunk and drive into a telephone pole. >> larry: more with michael and lisa after this. ♪ our fireworks. ♪ and our slip and slide. you have your idea of summer fun, and we have ours. now during the summer event get an exceptionally engineered e-class for 1.9 percent apr or lease one for $689 a month. ouch! ow! oops! it's neo to go!® ready. aim. protect.

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>> larry: we're back. we're showing you, i believe, there's the prison lindsay lohan is in for the first night of her scheduled stay. it's a jail, not a prison. a prison is where you serve over a year. it is for felonies. this is a jail. there are people in there not convicted of anything yet, right?

awaiting trial? >> right. >> larry: that's what a jail is. looks pretty nice from the outside. >> wait until you get inside? >> let's not kid ourselves, the overcrowded jails in los angeles are not pleasant. >> larry: what was with that mugshot? what did you read into it? michael. >> go ahead. >> chris mentioned not having any makeup or anything. lindsay doesn't need makeup or hair. >> larry: look at that. what is that, defiance? analyze that. >> i can't, but i see a scared, scared woman. i see her head lowered. i think she's becoming a little more submissive with what's going on with her life. i hope this vacant part of her now, i hope it's filled with only good things. >> larry: what was -- >> i think you can overanalyze a photo. it's like a driver's license photo. just a snap of a few seconds. >> larry: what about f-u on her fingernail? >> a dark place in her life and people around her. i can't tell you people with her in that court and living with her the night before had to see

her doing that. >> larry: if she didn't talk to you and you can't talk to her mother, how do both parents help her? >> dina has got to get -- thank you so much for saying this, i need to talk about this. dina needs to put everything aside, like i have, and she's got to be a mother, there for her daughter, like i want to be a father there for her daughter. why is it on july 4th, she was my best friend, my best friend and two days later when lindsay got sentenced and came out here to california, she wouldn't even pick up a phone call for me. >> we have tried. this is why michael retained me in part, i reached out to the attorneys and to work together. >> larry: what do you make of it? >> i can't speak for dina. i can only speak to michael. he has consistently been there for lindsay, refused to take her out partying, to go to rehab.

offered to pay for appeal, get the right rehab for her, done the research, talked to detectives and this is michael lohan's life, fighting for his daughter. this is his daughter. i admire him for that. he doesn't give up. it doesn't matter if she doesn't like him or tweets negative things about him. he won't give up. i don't think he will ever give up. >> i won't give up on dina in a million years. >> larry: how well do you know her, lindsay? >> i don't know her at all. i have never spoken to her. she does not want any contact -- >> she needs someone like lisa in her life. >> larry: what is your role? >> i took this casabout four months ago because michael came to me and said, i need to save my daughter, i just can't let her die and don't want her to be the hollywood statistic. one option was a conservatorship. i didn't think she was that bad. she's on probation, under court ordered supervision. as his attorney, i sent several

orders to the court asking for stricter control. several months ago, it was only alcohol ed classes she had to do. the only term of her probation. the court took us up on random drug testing, the bracelet, imposed stricter controls. >> larry: let's be real. optimistic or pessimistic? >> optimistic. >> larry: based on? >> based on rehab after she gets out of jail. pessimistic in that i think there will be deeply rooted issues that will stem from being in prison, like there still are in my life, larry. there are things i shoved deep down inside that reared their ugly head sometimes, too. you have to swallow a lot when you're in there. >> you're optimistic. >> you have to be. she's 24 years old, intelligent, beautiful, talented, of course you have to have optimism she can turn this around.

>> larry: you think the public's rooting for her? >> i don't know. she has a lot of fans. i saw a disabled girl come up to her in the courtroom last time around, she embraced her. she has compassion in her heart. >> as a person, she's one of the most wonderful people you will ever meet in your life. >> larry: michael lohan and lisa bloom. >> thank you, larry. >> larry: two of lindsey's friends are here and will tell us why she should not be in jail, next. could switching to geico really save you

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>> larry: joining us now, a photographer, model and star of "double exposure" on bravo. the season finale is tonight. and marcus clink, photographer and star of "double exposure." he's photographed lindsay lohan. both are lindsay lohan's friends and don't think she should be in prison. the two of you were a couple, right? now, you're friends. >> we're friends. >> we both do the photography together. >> larry: how did you hook up with lindsay? >> we've done many shoots with lindsay.

over the years, we've gotten to know her well. recently, we did a photo shoot where she and i got to spend more time talking and i spent quite a bit of time talking. >> larry: did she hire you as a photographer? >> yes. many years. we only work as a dual. >> larry: do you work as her personal photographers or work for companies, like her movie company? >> that's right. we were hired by her record company and hired by her leggings line or magazines. we're assignment photographers. >> larry: what about the rumors? let's deal with it, that you had a physical relationship with her? >> lindsay and i became close and we spent lots of time together. the rumors were very exaggerate. people were saying we were living together for a year. >> larry: did you have a physical relationship with her? >> we had an emotional relationship. >> larry: that was intimate? >> it was -- it was an intense and spiritual. >> larry: did that affect you, marcus? >> no, not specifically.

i mean, we're no longer a couple. we have not been a couple for seven years now. >> larry: no jealousy? >> no, not at all. >> larry: what's she like? what don't we know about her? >> lindsay has a lot of different sides to her. i think the public focuses on the scandals when she's out drinking or those kind of situations. she's actually a very calm person who spends a lot of her time thinking about her work and really focused on being a great actress, watching films, studying art. one of the things that brought us closer was actually talking about my school in india. for 15 years, i founded and supported a school in india. lindsay really wants to make a difference in the world. she wants to be a good role model. i think it's been very hard for her. >> larry: what do you think is her problem? we all know she's addicted to prescription medication. what's her problem? >> what i'm really sad for her,

i look at our career and how we work. we have a great team. we're surrounded by a phenomenal agent, george perez, have a fantastic lawyer. george michaels and a great stylist. we have been working together so long. when i see lindsay, she's alone. she changes people. once in a while, she has a different assistant, different people taking care of her. i feel she's so talented, she's a true natural in front of the camera and in person, she's a very sweet person. i think she needs to be supported. >> larry: you know she needs help. >> she needs help. >> larry: did you ever think of an intervention. >> i really thought what she needs was time away from the cameras, from people following her, from all the intensity of being in a fishbowl. i really feel that lindsay needs to figure out what she wants for herself.

everyone's telling her, she should do this. everyone i talk to thinks they know her, thinks they know what's best for her. no one is really interested in what she thinks is good for her. that's part of the problem. we worked with so many celebrities, beyonce, kanye west, all kinds of great people. being an artist, you have to be very focused and have that kind of crazy focus on what you're doing. i think lindsay really has that. so she doesn't pay attention to the other sides of her life, like where her passport is. >> it benefitted robert downey. do you think jail could help her? >> i don't think so. i think prescription drugs are her problem more than anything else. i'm somebody who loves to go to the gym, like to eat healthy a very long time. i think that's what she would need. if i could, i would take her to the gym. >> larry: she needs rehab. >> yes. i think she needs somebody she can trust. that's probably one of her biggest problems. >> larry: if you drive under the

influence intoxicated you could kill someone. >> absolutely. >> larry: someone's got to pay for something like that. >> absolutely. lindsay needs to make big changes in her life. i don't think jail will change her. she needs to change herself and that has to be a decision she comes to. having people around her who can be good influences would certainly help and good supporters, a good team that can take care of some of the basic things so she can focus on -- >> larry: when did you talk to her last? >> it's been a little while. we had a twitter war. >> larry: a war? >> a twitter war. >> larry: what's a twitter war? >> it means she was upset about the way she was portrayed on our show, which it was a docu series. they filmed her coming 11 hours late to our shoot and she was upset that was shown.

and we had nothing to do with that. >> do you think she's mad at you now? you're sticking up for her here tonight. >> i'm sticking up for her because i believe in her as a person. we've had our differences. we get along fine most of the time. she's someone under a lot of pressure. i think it's natural she will have those ups and downs. >> larry: you genuinely like her? yes, i really do. on tonight's episode of our show, you can see her visiting us at our exhibit. for many years, she's been there for us. she believes in our work. i really truly believe in her as a talent, as an artist. >> larry: thank you for coming forward. i like people no matter what who stick up for other people. >> thank you for having us. >> larry: a well-known crisis handler and addiction expert and criminal defense attorney all here next. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 what if every atm was free?

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>> larry: we welcome back howard bragman to "larry king live," founder and ceo of 15 minutes, crisis management expert. dr. drew pinsky, host at vh1, addiction expert, and trent howard, defense attorney. and at the courthouse today. will jail change her, howard? >> god, i hope so. she really needs it. had so many chances, taking all the outside stimulus away, taking her ability to tweet away, taking the media away, all these voices in her ears, i

really really pray for her, it does. >> larry: at what point, doctor, does she accept she has a problem? when does that occur? >> if i could figure that out, i could win a nobel prize. that moment of making people willing is so difficult in addiction. people can't get well until they're willing to get well. for most people, it is disgust, it is a belief they are going to die if they don't change direction and sometimes it's a significant loss, like a loss offer freedom or loss of children. i do know plenty of people that do get sober in jail when they have a chance to think about the fact of what they've done and how they've gotten there but not the usual story. >> larry: do they need a crisis point? >> they need a turning point. they all have a moment. she may have experienced that moment. she looked somewhat accepting in court and not fighting it so much. >> larry: the judge said no house arrest and no early release. do you think she will do 90 days? >> i don't think there's any chance she will do 90 days, in reality, i'm not sure she will do more than two weeks. the judge said, this is a 90 day sentence.

i can't control when the sheriffs will release you, typically, given the circumstance, a non-violent offender, doesn't have much of a record, will probably be released in just under two weeks or so. >> larry: paris jail was at that jail in lynwood. here's what she told me in 2007. >> larry: the purpose of jail is to teach a lesson, at least that's a big part of it. did it work for you? >> it definitely was a view traumatic experience. but i feel like god does make everything happen for a reason. it gave me, you know, a time-out in life just to really find out what is important and what i want to do, figure out who i am. even though it was really hard, i took that time to get to know myself. >> larry: think it changed you? >> definitely. i have a new outlook on life.

>> larry: did it happen quickly or happen over a period of time? >> the beginning was really hard. really hard for me, it's kind of a blur, it was so traumatic. after being there a while, i had to accept, i could either make the best of it or make the worst of it. i went with the motto, don't serve the time, let the time serve you. i did that and it really helped. >> larry: what does crisis management recommend, if you're sitting with lindsay lohan, let's say she's out, getting through rehab, how does she get it all back? >> you know, there's this myth out there a really good pr guy or crisis manager can fix everything. i can't want to fix it more than she wants to fix herself. that's the biggest thing. if she comes out and she says, i have a problem, i'm ready to go to rehab, i'm ready to confront it, she spends some time in rehab, comes out and starts living a clean and sober life for a while, then you can begin to get traction on the new life.

>> larry: did you try to get her on your show, drew? >> i'm actually involved in casting and believe people have reached out to her the last couple of years. >> larry: legally, should she have asked for appeal? this is a dispute here. >> i heard lisa earlier, larry. lisa makes a good point. the reality is a lawyer is required to zealously represent the interests of that client, zealously preserve their liberty. >> larry: what if the lawyer doesn't think it's an a good idea. >> if the lawyer doesn't think -- i don't know it wasn't a good idea in this case. the truth is there was some disparity. whether you agree with what judge revel's sentence was or not, it was -- i like this judge, been in front of her numerous times and think she is a very good judge. this was a sentence that far exceeded what a person under the normal circumstances would have been given had they not been a celebrity. >> larry: really? >> that's the truth. she violated her probation nine

different ways no question. i'm not defending lindsay. under normal circumstance, if you are in substantial compliance, generally speaking going to classes, any class lindsay missed she made up, she literally completed most of that sentence and she had some hiccups, no question about it. i think everything the judge said was accurate. the judge was justifiably upset with her. the truth is, larry, typically in most courts in this state, most judges would not have issued a sentence that was effectively a 180 day sentence. remember, this isn't just a 90 day sentence in jail where she will serve two weeks, this is a 180 day sentence because when she leaves jail, she has another 90 day sentence she has to serve relative to the rehabilitation program i think is justified but exceeds what most people would have received. >> larry: can her career come back? next. don't go away. somewhere, is making the

>> larry: let's check in with anderson cooper who will host "ac360" at the top of the hour. what's our lead, anderson? >> breaking news, just released, the video of shirley sherrod, her reputation and job, smeared by allegations of racism and condemned by naacp. the truth and the whole truth. we'll play the just released video and the original video released and the full video and introduce you to miss sherrod and let you decide. plus billions of dollars at stake, we tried to get an answer from bp and why there may never be a definitive number of how much oil was spilled in the gulf. we got the run around and resistance, couldn't get a straight answer. >> larry: anderson cooper, 10:00 p.m. eastern, 7:00 pacific. let's get back to lindsay lohan.

>> i'm surprised about whether they were going to file an appeal, that is a decision the lawyer will make, a strategy one. i think i probably would not have filed an appeal, i certainly would have filed some kind of motion, some kind of paper with this judge, urging this judge to allow lindsay to go to rehabilitation drug rehab first. >> larry: i think that's what robert shapiro wanted to do. >> i've known robert shapiro a long time. you know as well as anyone, robert shapiro feels strongly, passionate about the issue of drug rehabilitation. he's been touched by this issue. i'm surprised the lawyers involved in this case in the end did not make the decision to appeal to this court, this judge, to allow her to go to drug rehabilitation to complete that before she starts this sentence. >> larry: you know robert very well. do you think he gets a bad rap here? >> anyone who knows robert knows he has great legal integrity,

great mind and legal talent about this subject. if there is a problem between lindsay and robert, i'm on robert's side with this. she was the one who stepped out of line. >> larry: there is a second act in america, isn't there? >> always. we like that as well -- >> larry: america forgives after it knocks and picks up. >> absolutely. >> larry: if she turns it around, downey is the best example, can she come all the way back, two years from now, lindsay lohan stars in -- >> there is no doubt in my mind. i said this from the first time i was aware this young woman had a problem. i can see the recovery in her, the richness of this human being. i know she will make a wonderful recovering person and has this natural talent that will come flooding forth and flourishing again in a ways we've never seen even. but how far down will she have to go and will she survive? only she can determine that. >> larry: are these difficult clients to represent? >> you know -- >> larry: clients with addiction? >> i've represented a lot. >> let me answer that. yes. >> i've represented a lot of

celebrities, the shannon doherties and they're good people and i enjoyed representing them. however, they do march to their own drumbeat. you know, they, you know, are -- feel they are entitled to some things. they're very different and i'll add one last thing about this issue of her coming back for the second act. remember, she's still under the thumb of this judge when she gets out of this drug rehabilitation program and she completes her jail sentence. so she can't step out of line. she's going to have to keep her nose straight, stay straight, otherwise she's going to be back in the same position and we'll be right back here talking about these same issues. >> larry: what about her career? >> if she was a minor actor nobody would care. she's a great talent. in five or ten years from now she could have an academy award. she's that good.

the young people who are watching her now and watching this drama play out, grew up on her movies. they love this kid. the research supports exactly what dr. drew said and that is, they call them "the regeneration." you go through rehab and recreate yourself, they will accept you dpen. >> she has not to be concerned with that resurrection. she has to be concerned only with her sobriety. i know when robert downey went into so brie tid in earnest, he cobb templated never working again. his sobriety meant more to him than anythi than working. >> is this always going on a problem? >> yes. it's like any other disease, like a diabetic taking their insulin, they do it.

>> trent, this is an epidemic, is it not? >> it is. >> what can the law do? >> the law has to serve a number of functions, larry. the law is intended to rehabilitate. but it's also intended to punish. these are the circumstances where the law and i think this judge, made an effort to rehabilitate lindsay and she's also intending to punish. allow is also designed to send a message and that's clearly what happened in this case. anybody watching has to hook at this and say, i don't want to get out of line because if i do and do those things, it doesn't matter who i am. the fact is, i could be facing a substantial jail sentence that could be very, very difficult. >> we're going to take a break and come back. >> larry: dr. drew pinski. don't go away. plus an alertness aid to help you get off to a running start.

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>> larry: is michael lohan part of the problem? he surely loves his daughter. >> i've had a lot of young actors and it almost always goes back to the parents. lindsay has expressly asked her father not to discuss her. i feel like it's her life. and his number-one goal should be establishing a relationship with his daughter. i believe that he's passionate. i believe he loves his daughter. but, god, he loves cameras, too. >> that may be true. but i think he understands her life is in danger and he's willing to sacrifice the relationship to save her life. >> who roll do parents play? >> quite a bit. it's a genetic disorder. they feel guilt that they may passed it on. >> but he's building a wall by going on tv. >> but that's what he thinks he

needs to do. having been an addict. it's a tough environment to live in. >> if he had shown up in his sack cloth and ashes, he'll show up with his entourage, and bodyguards and -- i'm not buying it. he just loves the attention. he died in '88, so different times now. he would never let a client, relative of a client, anyone appear anywhere. only the lawyer speaks. no one else speaks. would that hold true today? >> it can't. we have 24 news cycles. >> is that a good idea today? >> it depends. it depends on whether or not the client speaking puts the client's legal position in jeopardy. i think -- he. >> larry: he wouldn't take the

bet. >> remember tom mesereau, left him, because robert blake decided he was going to give an interview to "good morning america." and some lawyers just draw that line in the sand. if you want me to represent you, if your legal position is in jeopardy, then don't talk and i take that position with most of my clients. >> sit different fulton for you to -- not any more so than looking at the medical conditions. it helps people understand. >> you don't know what's in lindsay's head. >> but i understand this disease of addiction very well. it affects people in highly predictable ways. and in terms of helping the public understand, i got involved in commentating, people were like, how come they skrup up their lives so much? it's because of addiction. you said it's an epidemic. it is and we need to understand that.

>> do we know how many people are addicted in america? >> tens of millions. >> and the most is prescription drugs? >> so if someone is kiting these? >> no. >> playing doctor against -- >> sometimes it's just how we practice medicine. some of it is in the younger population who see it in their parent's medication cabinet after it was left over from an old dental issue. >> how does lindsay get help with this all in jail? >> i don't know. i understand there are yuntss that can detox per. he may cold-turkey it in jail. i don't understand the system. >> is it hard to be a crisis guy today? >> we used to call it crisis control. now it's crazy