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i'm brianna keilar sitting in for fredricka whitfield. a saturday night tradition turned tragedy. eight people were killed when an off-road racing truck crashed into the crowd. several others were injured in the crash. thousands of spectators were lined up along this 50-mile course. can see how close they are in this video sent to cnn. you can see the white truck right there going past the camera. that is the one that ended up in the crowd. >> it's a sad day for off road racing. i've been doing it since the early '80s and this is probably the worst accident that i've actually heard in off-road racing. it's typically a safe atmosphere. it is open desert, and racing is unbelievably tight and stuff, but northerly you don't hear about people getting hurt, let alone fatalities. >> the driver was not hurt in this wreck, but he did have to flee the scene when angry

spectators started throwing rocks at him and joining me from los angeles about how this could happen is larry webster. let's start off with this. how could this happen? the first question you want to ask is why were the people so close to the course here? >> well, it's really a tragedy. it's awful. i was just looking at the racing organization's website and they caution spectator os to stay at least 100 feet from the racing surface. of course, they're there for a thrill and it's can exciting to be close to the trucks speeding by. so when something happened, it's tough. >> i'm a racing fan, a nascar fan, when you tell people that, they say, what's the point you like to see cars go fast you like to see them fast. but there is, of course, a considerable amount of skill involve here. what is the big deal about this

skill? what's the allure here? >> it really is exciting. you're controlling a very fast powerful machine over unpredictable rough terrain and that in itself is a thrill. there's a challenge to that. this race is 200 miles. it's at night. it's tricky. there's a lot to it. it's tricky. once you're in the seat is and experience it, i think it's one of those first-hand thing that people can really only get a sense by doing it. >> you wouldn't say, larry, that this is a mainstream sport, right? >> no. this is pretty much an amateur series. these are guys doing it on the weekends for fun. the spectators are there. it's on the weekend. it's something dint to do. a lot of these races, when you watch them on tv it's one thing, but live, like nascar, you can see it, smell it. it's an exciting experience. >> is there a governing body, someone that puts out rules that would include guidelines for spectators?

is there someone who does that or is it somewhat informal? >> no. there is. it's called the mohave desert racing. they set the rules for driving and set up the event. this is one of those very few open races that are left in the world, especially for this problem, and it's just very difficult to control the spectators. you can give all the warnings you want but at the end of the day, they're out there, on their own, and they do what they want. >> that leads me to this question. are you surprised sore there any way to make changes so this doesn't happen again? >> yeah, i am surprised. you don't hear about this anymore. it's quite rare that spectators get killed. it happened once in a while. even in nascar, debris from a crash goes over the guard fence and unfortunately kills someone. i think people are dawn to this race because it's a little lit

organized or freedom on how close you can get. i have a feeling people like that sort of thing. so, no, it's one of those tough things that's -- there's an inherent risk involved in the pursuit, and people have to know that going into it. >> so maybe that freedom goes awayed on it goes down a little bit then? i mean is there any way to cordon off an area, especially where you see what happened right here. look how close the spectators are. and this is an area that's kind of rocky, going between rocks. this is an area where these trucks frequently become airborne. this is not unusual. at least in an area like this, must there be some better guidelines? >> well, the guide lynns are there. like i say -- >> or enforcement, i guess, larry. could there be someone who could enforce it at least in these high-risk areas on a track like

this. >> >> i think what happens in the amateur events, there's not a lot of money or staff to go along and enforce a 50-mile-long track. what might happen is you say, look, unfortunately we can't have spectators at these amateur events because we can't police it. it really is pretty scary. i was in the baja 500 and it was really dusty and i was driving this truck and we were going up a hill and the dust cloud overcame us and i couldn't see anything. as we were approaching people were running toward the truck. i couldn't see so i hit the brakes. i was afraid i was going to hit someone. >> the spectators have a responsibility to keep themselves safe. >> very interesting. weer going to continue to talk about this story. the video from the race really shows just how close the crowd was. you can see that. coming up in our 5:00 hour we'll

talk to the guy who was there the crowd shooting that dramatic video that you just saw. and general petraeus, he had more to say about the deadline about pulling troops out of afghanistan. the commander of u.s. forces expressed concern over the president's withdrawal date. here's part of what he said. >> that's what july 2011 really connotes. it is to all the participants, those in kabul, some of us in uniform, again our civilian counterparts that we've got get on with this. this has been going on for some nine years or so. that there is understandable concern, in some cases frustration and that, therefore, we've really got to put our shoulder to the wheel and show through the course of this year that progress can be achieved. and, again, one manifestation of that out there is that you have this date. >> cnn pentagon correspondent chris lawrence joining us now. chris, you listened to these remarks. what did you think of what

general petraeus said? >> well,brianna, i don't think he moved the ball that much in that statement. it's something we've been hearing not only from bim hymn but o'pentagon officials. this date, i think what you read into it is what you get out of it. yeah, there is this date and some troops will be coming home, but honestly that may be just a few thousand. that it would take a fairly remarkable turned around to have significant numbers of troops, entire brigg fwads of people coming home this time next year. >> if you didn't really move the ball in those remarks, one of the things he talked about was the need to build up the government there. so what kind -- obviously this would take some sort of cooperation. what kind of relationship does the general have with president karzai? >> he was asked that question and sort of was very careful with his answer. but overall he said he's got a fairly healthy relationship with

president karzai. you know, one thing to look at is general petraeus has never come out publicly and criticized president karzai. the same can't be said for other leaders over there or for people in the obama administration. so he's come in with a fairly good slate with president karzai. take a look at what he said when he talked about the need to really strengthen the afghan government in the months coming forward. >> at the end of the day it's not about their embrace of us, it's not about us winning hearts and minds. it's about the afghan government winning hearts and minds. this smt to say there's any kind of objective of turning afghanistan into switzerland in three to five years or less. afghan, good enough is good enough. that means having traditional social organizing structures as part of the ultimate solution if you will. where tribal sure councils and so forth, which are quite

democratic, by the way. they then connect at the district or province level with what goes up to kabul and then comes out as well. >> the key, though, is going to with weather u.s. ambassador eikenberry ka forge a better relationship with president karzai and whether this is something that really can work. some senior defense officials will say privately perhaps a more decentralized afghanistan is something that may have to be looked at once you get past this area where the obama administration is going to take a look at their overall strategy at the end of the year, because overall if you're going to eventually hand over a government and leave afghanistan, you know, is president karzai is a strong central afghan government really the way to go. that's the question that's still got to be answered. >> truism. we know that you'll be taking a look at that as the story develops over the following

months. chris lawrence, pentagon correspondent. thank you. >> do you remember tropical depression 5? well its remnants are affecting the good-bye. what's going on with this? >> it's really backwards basically and trying to make a run to get back into the gulf of mexico. what does that mean for you in the forecast along the gulf coast? we'll let you know as well as the rest of the neigh. a little bit of good news to tell you as well. my subaru saved my life. i won't ever forget that. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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it's no longer a tropical depression but its remnants are still hanging around parts of the gulf coast and jackie is tracking that. >> it made its way from louisiana, mississippi, lingered around alabama. it's moving backward down toward

the southwest. look at all of the clusters of thunderstorms. the good news is the worst of it is staying offshore. if it continues to move in this direction, this could turn into a tropical depression. some of the computer models even bringing it back up to tropical storm status. we might get danielle out of this thing before you know it. we don't think it's going to have enough time to turn into a real powerful system. the bottom line is this is going to mean a lot of heavy rain, potentially flash flooding and this is the area we'll be watching. particularly the closer you are to the coast, the heavier the rain. the next handful of days, heavy amounts. it's something you might be watching. you may say to yourself, why the heck is this thing going backwards? one thing is the cold front. the other is helping to squeeze

this thing down. be thankful for this cold front because it's helping so many people feel so much better across the upper midwest and the central plain states where your temperatures are finally going down windchill e do have the threat of severe thunderstorms with it. you can see a watch posted for western parts of ohio. this includes you from toledo, stretching down toward the cincinnati area and damaging winds will probably be your primary concern, perhaps in ex-says. this is just fantastic. this should make your day. north platte, nebraska, 75 degrees. kansas city, after weeks in the triple digits feeling like 85. st. louis, 98. at least you're not at 100. heat is staying confined to parts of the south. here you can see the big picture. we want to give a big heads-up to folks in the east. no delays at the airport right

now. if you have flights this evening, make sure you call ahead and check on that as well. our fun animal video. check out these pictures, brianna. yeah, you're not not imagining things. zebras on the loose in california. apparently these were people's pets and two of them got out, one of which happened to be found in an apartment complex swimming pool. >> what's great is watching the police car run after it. it's sort of like a black-and-white running after a black-and-white. the tricky thing here is there's still one on the loose. you might want to check your swimming pool. >> call authorities because they are wild animals. >> it's kind of scary. cute and scary all at the same time. well, a day of mourning in china. more bad weather could be on the way. we'll be taking a look at that

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police have dropped charges against a man arrested after yesterday's shooting spree in buffalo, new york. four people died outside of a downtown restaurant there. and investigators have been looking at surveillance video. the district attorney says it includes clear pictures of the shooter. in washington, d.c., a blaze just two blocks from the white house near two of the most popular hotels there. the fire in an underground transformer led to the evacuation of the two hotels and it disrupted a wedding. no injuries reported though. and jazz great abbie lincoln has died at the age of 80.

she appeared in movies and was nominated for a golden globe award. she was a prominent advocate. she took her name from westminster abbie and abraham lincoln. philip markoff was found dead this morning in his jail cell in massachusetts. swre more top stories in about 20 minutes. in china, they're honoring the dead. they have dedicated ceremonies to more than 1,200 people who died in massive mud slides in the province. cnn's emily chang has more. >> reporter: national observance was across the country one week after the devastating landslide. at the disaster zone, thousands of soldiers, police officers, fire fighters, medics, along

with government officials gathered on top of the rubble amidst crumbn'ted buildings and heavy rescue equipment, awe of them bowing their heads together in a moment of silence. smaller memorials also happened across the country in beijing, on tiananmen square. in tibet, about 30,000 of them were ethically in tibetan. the chinese government has also temporarily banned certain forms of entertainment like karaoke and movies, this as rescue and recovery-efforts continue in the county. right now there's still a major concern about supplies. reporting to state-run media there's still a major threat of landslides on roads leading into the disaster zone which has made

it difficult to drive supplies in. so there's not enough tents and clean drinking water is also in short supply. meantime oh officials are also concerned about more flooding. with more rains in the forecast over the next few days. emily chang, cnn, beijing. there are pleas for help for flood-stricken pakistan. they immediatelial oh indicated another $10 million in emergency aid from the u.n. ban ki-moon is urging the international community to step up its efforts to help. he says an estimate 20d million people are desperate for food. they're in need of food. they need clean drinking water. they also need medicine and shelter. and close to 1,400 people dead, entire villages transformed into lakes. many of those rescued are worried just about tomorrow. >> we are here inside what is normally a high school, but here in the town it has been turned

into a makeshift clinic where hundreds of thousands of people are trying to figure out what to do. people have brought lots of things. if you look back over here, you'll see livestock, a chicken there. they've brought whatever is left they feel can help them survive all of this. over here where this family is sitting one of the big concerns right now is the health of the people and what they're going to do and there's a lot of problems with children's health. in particular they have six children and you'll notice their little girl here. she's only 1 1/2. notice how thin she is. she was already sick before this flood and now she's having diarrhea, problems that really endanger her life. the family is very concerned. the mother is pregnant. so these are some of the things happening to families right now. while the flooding has already flooded their homes and started to subside a bit. the real concern now is the

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. president and mrs. obama along with their youngest daughter sasha are on their way back to washington now after spending part of the weekend at the gulf coast. this morning they toured the waters off of panama city beach. their visit, of course, at boosting tourism after the devastate issing oil spill and yesterday, mr. obama, who did go ahead and take the plunge. we got this photo courtesy of the white house. he and sasha are swimming in a bay off of the gulf after concerns were raised about rib tieds as security in the open ocean. and in the gulf the top priority remaining sealing that ruptured bp once and for all. our reynolds wolf is in golf shores, alabama, where i crews had to stop. >> it's a watch-and-wait situation. just yesterday retired admiral thad allen wanted to make it clear that the end game is going

to be drilling the relief well and bottom kill procedure. that's something they're focusing on like a laser beam. but before they get to that point, he would like bp by order to actually conduct some pressure testing from inside the well to see if the pressure is rising or falling too quickly. and if it is, what bp's game plan will be to take care of that possibility. but the bottom line is they -- once the testing of the pressure is finished -- and that should come by monday or tuesday, it should take four days to get everything in place for the final part of the relief well drilling and, of course, the bottom kill procedure. you have to remember this is 2 1/2 miles down. the location of the relief well at this point is about 3 1/2 feet from the main well, but it's running basically parallel for another 30 to 50 feet before it hits a target. once it hits that, it will inject a combination of mud and cement and it will be dead. the problem is there may be complications. you mentioned the complications

that actually rolled through this area. it brought heavy wave action, caused a delay there. at these beaches it brought up a coating of oil on shore which has since been cleaned up. people have been going out, enjoying the sand. ken tillis took this video and you can see the moms and dads and kids enjoying things on the water. picture-perfect out here, no question. jacqui jeras mentioned that the remnants may be pulls its way. there's about a 20% chance of it reforming. if that happens, that means we could have further tee lays in the final process of the bottom kill? and it takes some time to sort of stop that and then to get it back going. it's a matter of days so we know that will keep you busy in the gulf. thanks for that report. >> reporter: absolutely. and the man who supervised

oil clean-up workers is in jail. a cnn investigation uncovers his criminal history and raises questions whether this could have been prevented by doing a simple background check. abbie boudreau looks for answers from bp and the company who hired them. >> reporter: one of the thousands of clean-up workers who descended on the gulf coast was this man. he was in charge of numerous workers on this now deserted mississippi beach. the problem was all of these people who are coming to town were strangers and the residents here had no idea who they were or where they were coming from and apparently they had good reason to be concerned. robertson was a convicted sex offender and he was breaking the law by not telling local law enforcement where he was living. >> i don't know how they could hire a man like that as our supervisor. >> do you think what happened to you could have been prevented? >> yes, i do. yes, i do. that's what makes me a lot of

times so angry. >> this woman came to town because she was looking for work. she wanted to help clean up the beaches and she need add job. she has four young children and it was important for her to get hired right away and that's exactly what happened. randy robinson was her supervisor and she told him time and time again i trusted him because he was my boss, i respect him. he was the person who was put in charge of me. >> you weren't feeling well that day and he offered to drive you home. >> yeah. >> and you thought he was a nice enough person to make that offer, i guess. >> yeah. he was my boss. i thought it was all right. >> reporter: she says robertson asked to use her bathroom and when he came out, she says he raped her. she's rented by attorney adam miller. >> i find it unbelievable because bp and their subcontr t subcontractors had relationships with all local law enforcement. they had the opportunity and ability to clearly check all of these people that they were hiring and bringing in to ensure the safety of the public.

>> reporter: if anyone had checked robertson's background, they would have found a lengthy criminal history and he was still on probation for a felony. instead he was made a supervisor. we are in pass a gu la, mississippi, here to talk to the local sheriff. several weeks before this incident sheriff mike byrd said he met with bp's local head of security about why bp was not doing back ground checks. >> i asked him directly, i said are you all doing criminal histories and background checks on these people and his answer, reply was no. they're not. i said you're kidding me. he said, no, there's so many of them we were told to do drug screen and that was it. >> i said that's not good at all. >> you actually recommended they get criminal background checks on their employees. >> yes, we did. and i told them that we would do that for them. do the background checks for them and they said no.

>> reporter: robertson works for a company called aerotek. >> will you come out. >> i'll come out. >> you promise. >> he promises. we wait. they only slipped us a note through the door. >> >> this is when the blame game begins. first we spoke with the general counsel for aerotek by phone. they say they weren't the ones who decided nod to do background checks. we are not liable for anything that happens. once we deliver to people to be supervised by our client we don't have anything to do with them anymore. >> miller environmental group which oversaw the clean-up and hired aerotek did not return our phone calls. then bp, which was paying for the beach clean-ups told us in a statement it normally checks its own employees but, quote, this was not done for all contractors

in this respochblts the responsibility lies with the employing company for their own staff. the rye kwiermt to subcontrac r subcontractors to bp's contractors is one further step beyond bp's scope of control. >> the buck stops with bp. it was their site. >> robertson was arrested and charged with battery as a sex offender. he told police the sex was consensual. >> yes, he's in jail. but you've got a victim here. what's she going to live through the rest of her life? it's just going to be pure hell for her. that's what it's going to be. >> it could have been prevented in my professional opinion. >> and you warned them. >> yes, ma'am.

>> reporter: how does something like this just change everything for you. >> i go through anxiety, you know. i'm angry. i feel dirty, scared. i'm scared. >> reporter: abbie boudreau, cnn, pascagoula, mississippi. >> she didn't go to the police right away because she was afraid she was going to lose her job. a month after the incident she was laid off. aerotek said she was one of many laid off and it had nothing to do with what happened to her. too close. some spectators hit by a race truck. coming up, we'll look at yaud roef road racers. i don't want you going out on those yet. and leave your phone in your purse, i don't want you texting. >> daddy... ok! ok, here you go. be careful. >> thanks dad.

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right now, general david petraeus says it will take a lot of time for afghanistan to keep from being a haven for terrorists. the key is to establish secure zones and expand them outwards. petraeus points to the capital of kabul as a successful example of that strategy. and u.s. marshals are once again focusing on montana and the border for a fugitive inmate from arizona. john mccluskey was one of three inmates who escaped from prison three weeks ago with the help of his fiancee.

the others were captured. eight spectators have died after a truck plowed into the crowd in california. several others were injured. the driver wasn't hurt. his truck lost control coming over a jump and it rolled over. off-road racing is very different from what you're used to seeing in daytona and indianapolis. the road is rough and the spectators aren't behind massive steel fences. so our josh levs takes a look at the track and the rules. >> let's take a look at the map behind me. i want to show you something here. i want you all to see where this is taking place in the united states, so let's zoom right in. we're going to california here. where we're going to go, it's east of l.a., east of san bernardino. we're going to go to this area where it takes place, soggy dry lake.

that area is 50 miles long and they go around four times. what we're hearing about this, the "l.a. times" describes this as a mecca for off-road racing. you can see by the terrain why it's so popular. there are lots of races that take place through this area throughout the year. let's get to some of the video. these are written rules. you can see them for yourself on the website. look at what some of them say. first of all, they say do not spectate within 100 feet of the course. looking at what we're seeing here, it looks like people are way, way within that. exactly how many people are considered, we don't know for sure but it clearly seems any one of them could lunge out and jump at the car. it says spectate on the pit side. we're seeing people on both sides. it says do not stand or drive on the course. well, it looks like some folks may be standing on the course at

some point during it. do not spectate on a turn. do not park with your lights on and facing online race vehicles. just a couple of the many rules here. there are a lot of rules surrounding the vehicles that do thistry. they talk about what kinds of cages they need, nets, safety precautions, certain fire extinguishers onboard, the five-point safety harnesses. they can't be any older than three years of the present race. there are many rules so there's not just something where they decide to do it and they're going to do it. what we have are a lot of questions about how something like this happens, but who is it up to enforce certain rules? are there supposed to be barricades everywhere? is it up to people to know what all the rules are and follow them and also there anyone who checks the entire length of the course? >> that's josh levs for us

raising rlg good questions there. the prot is clarifying comments about building a mosque near ground zero.

president obama is revisiting comments he made about a controversial proposal to build an islamic center and mosque near ground zero. friday the president defended the plan saying muslims have the right to practice their religion and build a place of worship, but yesterday the president told cnn's ed henry that in defending the rights of developers to proceed with the proposal, he was not commenting on the wisdom of the project. today two new york lawmakers weighed in on the merits of the plan. >> everyone else says they have

the right to practice their religion and they have a right to construct a mosque at ground zero if they wish. what i'm saying is they should listen to the deep wounds and anguish this is causing. >> i certainly appreciate the sensitivities of some of the families of 9/11. there are others who express support of it. the press is concentrating on those who oppose it. but, frankly, ground zero is hallowed ground. two blocks away, first of all, is not so hallowed ground. >> a new cnn research poll fines that 68% of americans oppose building the islamic center and mosque at that site. another week, another site of it. cnn's paul steinhauser takes a look at the weeke ahead in politics. >> a busy week ahead on the campaign trail. let's get right to it. on tuesday, washington and

wyoming. also on the campaign trail this week, president barack obama, he's got a busy week ahead. he's going to be in wisconsin, california, washington state, ohio, and florida this week. he's going to be campaigning for democratic candidates in those states and helping to raise money for the party. former president bill clinton is back on the campaign trail on monday. he's heading down to help out kendrick meek who's in a nasty battle with billionaire real estate investor jeff green. rick santorum, he's going to be at the iowa state fair shaking hands and speaking. last week we had newt gingrich there. what do they have? they and a bunch of other people may want to run for the next presidential nomination in 2012. in iowa, the iowa state fair is basically a must stop nr any

presidential hopeful. of course, iowa goes first in the presidential primary calendar. brianna? >> thanks for that, paul. don't you hate the atm overdraft fees? stay tuned.

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>> he has been trying to work with the bank on and off but there's been a lot of miscommunication because he doesn't know the language too well. he speaks to different people so sometimes you don't know what direction to go. >> we submitted modification for him which was declined. so in the process of submitting -- there's a lot of people they are not able to talk to the lender. when they call them, a lot of times they really don't understand what is going on. they are unable to express themselves, unable to explain their needs. >> because of the language barriers, a lot of people in immigrant communities haven't had access to the same kind of information about what some of the workouts and modifications are available to them. so the only people who are offering assistance are the people who are the scammers. and the scammers are really great as being able to provide information in language.

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they're part of america's military history, the pilots who fought and survived world war ii. some of them are sharing their knowledge and spine-tingling tales with visitors in oshkosh, wisconsin. meet pilot bud anderson.

he ee's triple ace and one of o veterans in focus segment. >> we were all young. 22 years old. we got shot at at night. it's really bad at night. >> i'm claurns e. bud anderson. >> we've got a couple of stories. >> primarily air combat. we're here at oshkosh, wisconsin. it's the mecca of all air shows in the world. i'm sure glad to be here. that means i survived another year. [ applause ] >> the fans here are very enthusiastic. they understand a lot about history and they want to hear first-hand history.

>> he'll tell you stories that are just mind-boggling, the stuff that happened during the war. >> we were formed up in the united states and trained as a fighter group to go fight the war somewhere in the world. >> i did a lot of dog fighting. we shot down five enemy airplanes, you were considered an ace. i shot down 16 in a quarter so i'm a triple ace with change. both of these airplanes are painted just like i flew them in world war ii. the p-50 mustang is a fighter plane. once it's in the air it flies like a dream. >> i take my hat off to the war dmunt to restoring these national treasuries and keeping them out for people to see them. that's special. i still fly. i still enjoy flying. aviation is my passion. >> great